Peter Oborne discusses Christian Zionism at Jordan conference

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  • @pangkiatloh4555
    @pangkiatloh4555 4 години тому +67

    The Bible is a " Good book". A book full of loves & compassions. How can a Good book ask its followers to ethnic cleans a race, the Palestinians?
    🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

    • @YogaladyToronto
      @YogaladyToronto 3 години тому +10

      But the Old Testament (the Torah) has some violent, unacceptable sections, inappropriate for our modern times

    • @joannagodwin-adamson4
      @joannagodwin-adamson4 2 години тому +3

      It doesn't

    • @geraudonly6229
      @geraudonly6229 2 години тому

      ​@@joannagodwin-adamson4It does. Hence the New Testament. The Jews became a nation not heading the warnings of the Prophets.

    • @anastylishrock481
      @anastylishrock481 Годину тому

      ... and the z!0 $cU.m would have us believe that i$l@m is violent...

    • @TheWatchmanWebsite
      @TheWatchmanWebsite Годину тому

      ​@@YogaladyTorontoOld Testament of Moses is a v10lent book? That is the best example of the c0gnitive diss0nance of Muslims! Do Muslims not know that your god, Allah of the Qur’an, claims in QS 29:46 to be the same God of the Jews and Christians? Well, the Jews and Christians were already using the Old and New Testament before Islam came on the stage. So going by Allah of the Qur'an's claim, Allah is the v10lant God of the Old Testament. Do you see?

  • @annenunney9907
    @annenunney9907 4 години тому +37

    I can remember the Archbishop of Canterbury refusing to meet with the Pastor because he shared a platform with Jeremy Corbyn neither the Pastor or Jeremy Corbyn deserve that treatment from anyone

    • @user-s1o3nr532
      @user-s1o3nr532 2 години тому +5

      Since then the Archbishop has resigned in disgrace over protecting abusive priests and everything Jeremy Corbyn warned of has happened.

    • @KarakuraNinja
      @KarakuraNinja 2 години тому

      I suspect Welby started to change after being in the elite zio bubbles.
      I wouldn't be surprised if the scandal was a zio operation to unleash because he got closer to Munther.
      Maybe far fetched because I feel I see this pattern with public figures too many times now

    • @Gujratiah
      @Gujratiah 16 хвилин тому

      Archbishop welby was proud of his Jewish heritage and banking background. He was also a spook, being in Iraq during the war and occupation

  • @mrcocoloco7200
    @mrcocoloco7200 4 години тому +29

    I hate bots so much. Try to report it, guys.
    Also great video.

  • @MomoElex
    @MomoElex 4 години тому +52

    A giant of British journalist (not many left now)

    • @chegeuvera
      @chegeuvera 3 години тому

      He's not left though. Never had been and isn't now.

    • @juliewake4585
      @juliewake4585 2 години тому +1

      @@chegeuverawe all know he’s actually right wing, but he has huge amounts of honesty in his reporting and journalism. No he’s but left wing but I don’t think that’s what they meant.

    • @darrylsugg7230
      @darrylsugg7230 Годину тому

      ​@@juliewake4585just what journalists should be doing.

  • @CharlieWho-q8l
    @CharlieWho-q8l 3 години тому +15

    Peter Oborne ❤

  • @najeerbehna221
    @najeerbehna221 4 години тому +62

    Free.Free.Palestine

    • @TheWatchmanWebsite
      @TheWatchmanWebsite 2 години тому +1

      I am a proud Christian zionist who respects God's (YAHWEH) everlasting covenant of land with Israel (Genesis 17). Bible prophecy, long before Islam came on the stage, taught that at the end of the age, Sat a n and his ruler on earth will go after Jews and Christians. I can therefore understand the growing ha tre d of Jews and Christians by the religion of Islam. As the people of the book, we know that Allah of the Qur’an claims to be the God of the previous scriptures, but it's just that-a claim. Allah of the Qur’an is a counter feit 7th cent tury god claiming to be Creator and Most High. 7th century claims. Allah of the Qur’an is not YAHWEH the true God historically worshipped by the Israelites for over 3500 years. That is why Islam can not stand the existence of the Israelites on the covenant land from their God.

    • @TheWatchmanWebsite
      @TheWatchmanWebsite Годину тому

      Atheists also hate the true covenants of God (YAHWEH), that is why it is possible that the end of the age will first be characterized by an alliance of Islam i sists and the Left with Islam then later coming down heavily on the Left when Islam is finally in power, just like what the Muslims did to the Commmusts in Iran when the Muslims got power thanks to the help of the Communists

    • @anastylishrock481
      @anastylishrock481 Годину тому

      ​@@TheWatchmanWebsite
      😂😂😂😂
      .... and then the unicorns rode off into the sunset over a rainbow made of sugar cloud candy. The end.
      😂😂😂😂
      Get professional help. Get locked up. For your safety. Oh, I forget, your entire identity as a people is fear and you ARE locking yourselves up behind walls. You are so locked up inside your p$ych0t!c minds and behind walls that soon you'll be turning against each other. Inevitably so. You won't have any other outlet for your p$ych0t!c fear. What a glorious day that'll be. Human beings no longer recognise you as human. Let that simmer for a while in your d€pr@v€d head. And you arrived there all by yourselves.

    • @TheWatchmanWebsite
      @TheWatchmanWebsite Годину тому +1

      Have you ever asked yourself why the L eft (anywhere in the world) and Islam sists do not like Israel while mainstream Christianity supports Israel?
      Very simple: Islam does not like the covenants of YAHWEH the God of the Jews and Christians. Allah of the Qur’an is not YAHWEH the true God historically worshipped by the Israelites for over 3500 years.
      The Le ft do not like the covenants of God (homo sxls, trans etc).
      So it's not surprising to see the growth of this all1ance throughout the world

    • @ricyman5110
      @ricyman5110 36 хвилин тому

      share this video as much as possible guys, please 🙏🏻 please 🙏🏻 please 🙏🏻

  • @Lotus33423
    @Lotus33423 3 години тому +12

    Free Palestine

  • @ferozerahim146
    @ferozerahim146 3 години тому +9

    Great speech

  • @Maryanne-j2e
    @Maryanne-j2e 2 години тому +3

    May peace prevail 🙏

  • @maryci7794
    @maryci7794 3 години тому +35

    Free P💓lestine 🇵🇸 .For ever.

    • @markconway3481
      @markconway3481 4 хвилини тому

      Palestine doesn't exist be told!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @ujean56
    @ujean56 3 години тому +21

    Will the king be discussing the return of the stollen land to it's rightful owners?

    • @NathanFootballer
      @NathanFootballer 3 години тому +1

      He made a deal.
      No going back.
      🤫

    • @PalestineBookCafe
      @PalestineBookCafe 3 години тому +5

      Jordan sent aid to israel for Israel everyday during the genocide. Jordan also did not join the ICC case against Israel, standing firm with zionism. Jordan protects Israel just to enrich the illegitimate (and foreign) monarchy. I wish the people living in Jordan would do their duty for humanity instead of profiting off of zionism. Jordan itself was built on the blood and ethnic cleansing of Historic Palestine. Where are the honourable people who live in Jordan that will take a stand against evil?

    • @NathanFootballer
      @NathanFootballer 3 години тому +2

      @ I agree.
      There time is running out.

    • @darrylsugg7230
      @darrylsugg7230 Годину тому

      ​@@PalestineBookCafeI didn't know any of that, thank you.

    • @kfork814
      @kfork814 42 хвилини тому

      @@PalestineBookCafehuh

  • @islamic_eschatology01
    @islamic_eschatology01 4 години тому +20

    The ongoing geopolitical maneuvers by Israel, particularly in the context of its engagements in Syria, Iran, and the broader Middle East, raise critical questions about the underlying motivations and implications of these actions. The expansionist vision encapsulated in the idea of "Greater Israel" appears to be driven by a deep-seated ideological aspiration, one that seeks to recreate a historical golden age while ensuring absolute dominance over the region. However, the consequences of this pursuit have been catastrophic, leading to continuous conflicts, loss of millions of innocent lives, and an increasing fragmentation of the Middle East.
    The concept of "Greater Israel" is deeply embedded in Zionist thought, tracing its roots back to biblical narratives, particularly the reigns of King David and Solomon. This vision, often reinforced by religious and nationalist rhetoric, aims to extend Israeli influence beyond its current borders, encompassing territories that are historically and strategically significant. However, one must critically analyze whether such an aspiration aligns with the ethical and political realities of the modern world. The justification for territorial expansion based on religious texts and historical precedent is inherently problematic, as it disregards the rights and sovereignty of other nations and peoples who have lived in these lands for centuries.
    Since the early 2000s, the Middle East has witnessed a series of devastating conflicts, many of which can be linked, directly or indirectly, to Israeli strategic interests. The post-9/11 world order saw the systematic dismantling of major Arab states, beginning with Iraq and extending to Syria, Lebanon, and even the influence over key Gulf nations such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the UAE. The insertion of puppet governments, often aligned with Western and Israeli interests, has ensured that these nations remain politically and economically subservient, preventing any unified resistance against Israeli expansionism.
    The Syrian Civil War provides a particularly relevant case study. While Israel has not been overtly involved in ground operations, its strategic airstrikes, intelligence support to militant groups, and political maneuvering have played a crucial role in weakening the Assad regime. The broader objective appears to be the destabilization of Syria, ensuring that it remains fragmented and unable to pose any strategic threat to Israel. Similarly, Israel’s increasing military posturing against Iran further escalates tensions, bringing the entire region to the brink of a larger confrontation.
    ### **The Forced Fulfillment of Biblical Prophecies**
    A significant concern regarding Israel’s expansionist policies is the apparent attempt to force the realization of biblical prophecies, particularly those found in the Book of Isaiah. The notion that a Messiah will return to rule from Jerusalem has been a cornerstone of Zionist eschatology, influencing both Jewish and Christian Zionist movements in the West. However, the methods employed to achieve this vision-war, displacement, and systematic oppression-are deeply contradictory to the very moral and ethical teachings of the Abrahamic faiths.
    One must question whether any true messianic vision could ever be built on the foundation of bloodshed and suffering. If the aim is to recreate a divine kingdom, should it not be rooted in justice, peace, and coexistence rather than military aggression and political manipulation? The persistent oppression of Palestinians, the suffocation of Gaza, and the continuous encroachment into the West Bank serve as stark reminders that the pursuit of "Greater Israel" is not a path to enlightenment but rather one of prolonged conflict and instability.
    ### **The Western and Zionist Alliance: A Strategic Shield for Israel**
    Western powers, particularly the United States and certain European nations, have played a pivotal role in shielding Israel from international accountability. The consistent use of veto power in the UN Security Council, the unrelenting flow of military aid, and the suppression of any critical discourse in mainstream media highlight the extent to which Zionist influence has permeated global politics. The alliance between Western Christian Zionists and Israeli political elites ensures that the narrative of Israeli exceptionalism remains unchallenged, while Muslim nations are systematically dismantled under the pretext of counterterrorism and democracy promotion.
    The so-called "War on Terror" has, in many instances, served as a convenient cover for reshaping the Middle East in ways that align with Israeli strategic interests. From the destruction of Iraq to the ongoing chaos in Libya and Syria, the pattern is clear: dismantle strong Muslim nations, install compliant regimes, and maintain an environment where Israel remains unchallenged both militarily and politically.

    • @x-ray-automatic
      @x-ray-automatic 2 години тому +3

      Such a powerful piece - shouldn't be confined to the realms of a UA-cam comment!

    • @anastylishrock481
      @anastylishrock481 Годину тому

      What you present are rational arguments that a rational mind can take into account. The z!0 mind is not rational. It fights against rationality. And humanity.
      That's why it's got to go. Asap.

    • @kfork814
      @kfork814 41 хвилина тому

      Huh

    • @kfork814
      @kfork814 41 хвилина тому

      @@x-ray-automaticye

  • @magansingodia8511
    @magansingodia8511 21 хвилина тому

    All you say Peter is the truth, thank you for your unchanging stance and acknowledgement of the leadership of the Palestinian Liberation

  • @talithakroon5215
    @talithakroon5215 43 хвилини тому

    stand your man i love you

  • @crystalmortimer4666
    @crystalmortimer4666 3 години тому +10

    They really do not understand that God wants peace amongst all and the innocent to be protected. Doesn't matter religion, ideology, race,etc. God doesn't see that. We are all a reflection of him.
    Do you think he wants anyone to fight over land or resources, be it the Holy Land or your home land?
    It is outlandish thinking to correlate God with thievery & stealing. Really think about it?
    If you are a reflection of him, then how should you behave?
    God is from the Light & is the ultimate reflection of Love & Protector. On Earth, we can't even grasp it bc so many have lost their way. The reflection is diminishing.
    Everything is for profit and cheat and steal do whatever possible to get there. Who cares about your neighbor. This is how so many think.

    • @crystalmortimer4666
      @crystalmortimer4666 3 години тому

      The biggest agitator to all in the US and Nato regions is propaganda. Straight up lying to the masses to control the population.
      It's not in anyone's favor and has created a society in decline.

    • @crystalmortimer4666
      @crystalmortimer4666 3 години тому +1

      God didn't create the concept of money. Please think about what greed does to a society. It has to be kept in check. Resources and land are gifts for all of God's children, and if you rule that land, you are the responsible party to determine what is fair, right & just for your population.

    • @crystalmortimer4666
      @crystalmortimer4666 3 години тому

      So income inequality is not a reflection of God either. He is not the one who wants all the Gold, Businesses, Oil, Houses, Cars, etc. He GIVES!!!! He doesn't not Take!!!
      If someone carries these traits they ruin it for all the others. Bad example

    • @PalestineBookCafe
      @PalestineBookCafe 3 години тому

      the zionist movement is not based on religion, it was a Rothschild project. Lord Balfour wrote a letter to Lord Rothschil who owned the banking system telling him he could get an outpost for his financial system in the Levant. (like The City of London). Religion is the tool (re: Religion is the opiate of the people). The bible is a book of metaphysics, not history. but the zionists knew people are easily deceived so they decided to create a human race called Israeli, based on the idea of Israelites (the tribes of prophet Jacob). The tribes of Israel are metaphors for the journey of the spirit (represented by the sun). They are not an actual people--rather a personified story of the 12 stages of the spirit, which by the way, is also represented by the zodiac and in all ancient myths (Ra, Horus, Hercules, ...)

    • @crystalmortimer4666
      @crystalmortimer4666 2 години тому

      Why do rulers flaunt in today's society? Ego driven society
      It's repulsive to those who are humble. Creates a huge disconnect.

  • @Saidshuaili
    @Saidshuaili 4 години тому +12

    Zio is a jew in the Christians' coat.

  • @fashioncitymetaverse
    @fashioncitymetaverse 4 години тому +13

    Thank you for sharing 🙏 free.gaza.palestine

  • @mjakabir
    @mjakabir 4 години тому +6

    🤝 #MiddleEastEye

  • @Raz-o7x
    @Raz-o7x 3 години тому +2

    Good topic 👏

  • @terilynnnelson572
    @terilynnnelson572 3 години тому +3

    I would love to see the entire speech!

  • @PalestineBookCafe
    @PalestineBookCafe 3 години тому +9

    Jordan sent aid to israel for Israel everyday during the genocide. Jordan also did not join the ICC case against Israel, standing firm with zionism. Jordan protects Israel just to enrich the illegitimate (and foreign) monarchy. I wish the people living in Jordan would do their duty for humanity instead of profiting off of zionism. Jordan itself was built on the blood and ethnic cleansing of Historic Palestine. Where are the honourable people who live in Jordan that will take a stand against evil?

    • @Mihaela8440
      @Mihaela8440 2 години тому

      It’s the UK educated King and his decisions, not the people

  • @Marco11169
    @Marco11169 Годину тому

    Great gentleman

  • @user-s1o3nr532
    @user-s1o3nr532 2 години тому +2

    The craziness of trying to shoehorn the modern world into fundamentalist theology that draws on texts from thousands of years ago is consistently underestimated and understated

    • @freedomfighter4990
      @freedomfighter4990 50 хвилин тому

      Muslims are no better. That's what's religious fundamentalists do.

  • @MasrurMia-e6q
    @MasrurMia-e6q 2 години тому +1

    Peter orborne is the greatest journalist in our time

  • @santichatterjee7284
    @santichatterjee7284 2 години тому +2

    What should be addressed is WHY it's wrong to preach the second coming of Jesus. That's the root of all evil. But nobody talks about it

  • @aminaryaee1987
    @aminaryaee1987 Годину тому

    Nice job well done

  • @syafiqsya465
    @syafiqsya465 4 години тому +8

    ❤️🇵🇸

  • @jerrysmith2360
    @jerrysmith2360 2 години тому +1

    6:42 “Our very foolish Archbishop of Canterbury” is with a very short passage of time, a massive understatement. That corporate Anglican believed in business as usual with Israel while Palestinians burned. Now he’s upset that he’s lost his posh palace while Gazans have nowhere to live. What a Christian he is.

  • @Bluebaggins
    @Bluebaggins 51 хвилина тому

    The deaths, the violence, and the suffering caused by the tension between Israel’s Jewish character and its democratic ideals are tragic and unacceptable.

  • @RZX619
    @RZX619 2 години тому

    Peter Oborn is always the voice of reason and bravery

  • @magansingodia8511
    @magansingodia8511 27 хвилин тому

    Shows the ignorance of the American politicians and diplomates on Middle East History or of Abrahamic Faiths.

  • @MuhamadSaleem-s5e
    @MuhamadSaleem-s5e 4 години тому +8

    Where's Arab countries and there army and there dictators 🤔

    • @kfork814
      @kfork814 40 хвилин тому

      Where is the usa

  • @UMMeshmesh1982
    @UMMeshmesh1982 4 години тому +4

    Jordinain King living on the Hashimit legacy. over and over repeated Broken record

  • @kevindaly9203
    @kevindaly9203 2 години тому

    Was this the best speaker they could find?

  • @l.antone
    @l.antone Годину тому

    What all the religious need to understand is that your faith is about Your relationship with the creator, & other people shouldn't even be forced to style their own hair the way Your teachings demand you or them to do as such. World Peace Achieved. ☮❤🗺

  • @abooswalehmosafeer173
    @abooswalehmosafeer173 3 години тому

    King -Crane commission 1919.

  • @buixote
    @buixote 2 години тому

    They are not Christian.

  • @SpotterVideo
    @SpotterVideo 3 години тому +1

    New Covenant Whole Gospel: How many modern Christians cannot honestly answer the questions below?
    Who is the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Who is the “son” that is the “heir” to the land in Matthew 21:37-43? Why did God allow the Romans to destroy the Old Covenant temple and the Old Covenant city, about 40 years after His Son fulfilled the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 in blood at Calvary?
    What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word. Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary.
    God is not now a “racist”. He has extended His love to all races of people through the New Covenant fulfilled by His Son’s blood at Calvary. The Apostle Paul warned against using “genealogies” in our faith in 1 Tim. 1:4, and Titus 3:9.
    If the New Covenant is "everlasting" in Hebrews 13:20 and the Old Covenant is "obsolete" in Hebrews 8:13, why would any Christian believe God is going back to the Old Covenant system during a future time period?
    What is the location of the "temple of God" in the Book of Revelation? The answer is revealed in Rev. 3:12 and Rev. 11:19 in heaven, and not in the wicked city found in Rev. 11:8. This temple is located in the same city promised to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:13-16 and also described in Hebrews 12:22-24.

  • @rach007-h8x
    @rach007-h8x 4 години тому +3

    Couldn't they get a much larger location??😂

  • @Bluebaggins
    @Bluebaggins 50 хвилин тому

    Genesis18, YHWH is a man. Adam being born in the image of both YHWH and the Elohim, his fall severing his understanding of YHWH and YHWH becomes an external judge, needs to be understood for the restoration. YHWH is a tetragrammaton, meaning the grammar of four, and if one follows the verse Job 38: 33 and fleshes it out, one lands upon the celestial sphere which is a construct of the four elements detailed. The depiction is one of the human psyche, either individual or collective and how t attain sovereignty. The Globus Cruciger is an inverted Ankh. Goodluck and have fun in your discovery finding what scriptures are based upon. Colossians 2:20

  • @mikematin5716
    @mikematin5716 4 години тому +7

    ❤🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸❤❤️

  • @10MAS-ec4kx
    @10MAS-ec4kx 4 години тому +4

    Gerusalemme tornerà Cristiana 🇮🇹💪

    • @neilcolley25
      @neilcolley25 4 години тому

      good man

    • @engineered.mechanized
      @engineered.mechanized 4 години тому

      There are no christians in Europe and rest of west

    • @Bcl2018
      @Bcl2018 4 години тому +1

      I'm sorry, in Jerusalem Christians are only spat at by Jewish groups who you say are God's chosen people.

  • @resulserkanyazc9080
    @resulserkanyazc9080 4 години тому

    Bir siz eksiktiniz.

  • @collin_mmarshall1655
    @collin_mmarshall1655 2 години тому +1

    The Christians are the servants of the Jeuus 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @jhonybadger179
    @jhonybadger179 3 години тому +2

    Cannot understand why a lot of christian are zionist or zionist supporter? Are they playing "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" game? This is low

    • @joannagodwin-adamson4
      @joannagodwin-adamson4 2 години тому +1

      The scofield bible has a lot to do with it. It is a rewrite of the Bible, via salient passages & meaning of old & new testaments with intent to legitimise a greater Israel from the Euphrates to the Nile river in Egypt & ultimately,with a view to world domination by Israeli supremecists.
      Nb Jewish Zionism differs from Christian Zionism in its end goal & effect
      Don't take my word for it. If you care about this ,please check it out, it is deeply disturbing & pernicious. Many Jews see it for what is- fallacious, fascist, nationalist etc & a vicious assault on all 3 monotheistic religions;Judaism, Christianity & Islam

  • @Shadoufang
    @Shadoufang Годину тому

    So Zionism is not Judaism. THANK YOU for admitting it 🤟🔻

  • @mikematin5716
    @mikematin5716 4 години тому +1

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  • @mikematin5716
    @mikematin5716 4 години тому +1

    Mike hakabi
    Has balls ?😂 If he dose ? Why the whole isreal lost to Hamas ???