Your videos are the gold standard for others to follow. Thank you for putting so much detailed information in easy to digest videos and actually showing how things are set up and how they look through a camera. Subscribed with alerts!
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION So the 123a battery is 3.3 to 3.4 volts and the anker 10,000 you use is a 5 volts. does this hurt the unit? and also could you use the external battery with a rechargeable 123a battery in the unit at the same time?
So the TNVC representative, Will, who I talked to over the phone last month was actually you! Thank you for spending over an hour on the phone with me and I'm very very happy with the NGI Photonis ECHO PVS-14 that you led me to purchase. I'll surely call you guys back in the future for my night vision needs.
I just started using an iRay MH25 bridged w/ PVS-14 using Wilcox Bridge. I found the IPD adjustment on the Wilcox Bridge is really awesome, made "ghetto" fusion work for me. Turning down the brightness and contrast also helps.
Great Review! And Congrats on joining a fantastic team. I’ve been running a KVC bridge with my Skeet IRX and PVS14 for about a year. I absolutely love the setup and my experience mirrors yours. Since running that setup, I’ve scored on every hunt I’ve done. Like you mention, I even use it for day hunts with just the Skeet. Easy to find anything living around you.
👍 I just saw this after talking with you. Helmet mounted thermal. Someone on IG pointed out to me how to tighten up the loose arm. I added it to the video description
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION I don't know if your out here in socal but if you are and ever need help filming stuff I am down!!! just hit me up I am near Redlands
Congrats on your job with TNVC!!! You got me started in night vision and ive recommended your channel to many. Glad you will be able to help more people into this industry! Ive thought about going with this combo but ive been currently hog hunting rock canyons, with the heat coming off the rocks from daytime heating, how will the image look thru the PTQ-136?
Thanks! I haven’t used it in rock canyons so can’t say 100% but I’ve used it around large boulders, etc. You’ll have to play with the settings to find the best combo. There are a lot of adjustments available in the menu. Outdoor alert may not work very well but black/white hot should be good to go.
@@Jose-fc5yd Myself I prefer the Breach cause it’s FLIR over the overseas options but I also feel it’s outdoor alert mode is better than anything else I’ve used. I love that palette. Its better than anybody else’s version IMHO. It also works fantastic for my location where my open areas for typically under 50 yards. A 640 looks nicer but has the same capabilities in that kind of distance. It is built tough and is tiny as hell. It’s a great little handheld scanner easily fits inside jacket pocket or tucked in with a neck lanyard. With that said it’s sensor & lens size obviously aren’t going to perform as good as at further distances compared to a 640.
@@dylanb.football2025 basically the PVS-14 is a Harris gen 3 WP, the bridge mount is the mod armory setup with the part that replaces the J-arm. the breach uses the mod armory fittings.
I'm pretty sure you're the same Will my coworker is dealing with for our orders both for the store and ourselves. Can't wait to get my DTNVS! Thanks for making these videos, it really helps me learn more about NV because I will soon be using it frequently and selling it in our store.
Thanks for the great videos, very informative and helpful, and congratulations on joining a great company, the best in the NV industry! I have two PVS-14’s and a FLIR Breach and would like to be able to do the same thing (i.e. PVS-14 on my right eye & FLIR Breach on my left eye), but also to try an additional, more flexible option (if I can figure out how to do it) of mounting the Breach on some sort of J-Arm setup attached to a longer, extended rail on the left side of my helmet, which would allow me to articulate the left PVS-14 (mounted on either a Knight Vision bridge or Wilcox bridge) up out of the way and then swing the Breach into place in front of my left eye. I am hoping that either the Knight Vision J-Arm Modular Replacement or the Mod Armory J Arm Adapter might work for trying to rig up a setup like this. (Yes, I know that this is getting heavy on my head, but so far I’m fine with two PVS-14’s.) To try to accomplish this, I placed a large order of Knight Vision and Wilcox mounting hardware (bridges, arms, clips, shoes) with TNVC back in September. TNVC charged my credit card over $2.5k for the order at that time, back when I placed the order, in September, and told me that my order would be delivered in 5 weeks. It’s now been 5 months, and still no delivery. TNVC has had my money, over $2.5k, for the last 5 months. I trust TNVC because of its stellar reputation. But I agree with @LTGOneill here (in his comment below) about “convincing TNVC to take a backorder and not charge until an actual item is ready to ship.” All of the other vendors I do business with don’t charge my card until the order ships. TNVC seems to be the odd man out of step with the rest of the industry. But I continue to be patient, 5 months and counting. I hope you’re right that these items will be arriving this month (February). I’d be most grateful if you could check up on my order (#373488) and see that it doesn’t slip through the cracks, get left by the wayside or forgotten, with the scramble when these items do eventually arrive. Many thanks, and thanks again for the excellent videos!
Unfortunately, we're at the mercy of when they actually arrive. What makes matters worse is that lead times are wacky right now on a lot of products including KVC. When you ordered that was the expected lead time. I'll check on the status of your order tomorrow.
Thank you again for your quick response, especially on this one. I do understand, as it’s been this way with everything in the last year. Most of my optics orders have been taking anywhere from 4 to 8 months between order and delivery. This last year has taught us the value of patience. Jaimie has kept me informed (and ‘hanging on in quiet desperation,’ as the old Pink Floyd song goes) with a terse, polite response every month or two when I reach out to him to ask for a status update. But wow, it’s great having you onboard at TNVC and so accessible, (like Sam) educating us here on UA-cam and responding to our queries! Thanks for your help!
I broke my back during some fun outside conus. I'm right there with you. A single 14 without a counterweight is hell within a few minutes. The next day is worse. Thanks for the head's up. Coti is where it's at I guess 🤷♂️
Will you be posting a video on the next generation COTI, the new ECOTI (that you mentioned in the video)? Hoping you can address the major complaint I’ve heard about its predecessor, the COTI - namely, that the thermal outline overlay doesn’t always line up properly in sync with the PVS-14’s NV image, and that it needs frequent adjustment. Wondering if the new ECOTI (now with a 30-degree FOV, 50% greater than the COTI’s 20-degree FOV, and so closer to the PVS-14’s 40-degree FOV) improves upon this weakness of the COTI?
Great, Will, thanks for the response! Very much looking forward to your review of the ECOTI at some point in the future, hopefully after an extended time using it, like this video you just posted after 2.5 months with the PVS-14/Breach right-eye/left-eye setup. No need really to look backwards to the COTI, but rather hopefully just an in-depth review of your extended use of the ECOTI and how well the two images sync up (the ECOTI’s thermal outline overlay onto the PVS-14’s NV image). At $8.4k, it had better be flawless in that regard. At that price, I could, at best, at most, possibly, maybe, stretch for a single one. I assume that a single ECOTI can only overlay onto just one PVS-14, and not onto both PVS-14’s (in a dual PVS-14 setup). So I would be interested in how your brain handles that (the slightly different image between the two eyes, with one eye not getting the thermal outline overlay while the other eye does). After how you’ve managed to train your brain to quasi-fuse the Breach image (in Outdoor Alert mode, turned down to low brightness setting) from your left eye and mentally overlay it onto and sync it up with the PVS-14 WP image in your right eye, that should be a piece of cake, relatively speaking. After extended usages of both: 1) the PVS-14/Breach right-eye/left-eye setup (and manually swapping back and forth between the Breach and a second PVS-14 on your left eye), and 2) dual PVS-14’s with a single ECOTI overlay onto one of the PVS-14’s, ... I would be interested in your opinion about the relative comparison and trade-offs between these two different setups and the cost/value proposition between them, within the contexts of different applications. ... Namely, do you think one may be better suited for MIL/LE applications and the other might be better suited for recreational applications? ... e.g., like possibly the ECOTI for MIL/LE applications, while the PVS-14/Breach setup (with manually swapping back and forth between the Breach and a second PVS-14 on the left eye) may be sufficient and work well enough for night hiking applications in cougar/bear country? I realize that this will be very personal, that will vary from one person to another, but just interested in your take (after you've had a chance to try out the ECOTI). Thanks!
You have also provided me with the solution to my fogging problem in the hotter months. Don’t know why I hadn’t thought of that, but yup, my eyes are buried down in tunnel vision NODs. I need to back them off as you suggested. I’m right-handed but left-eye dominant, with my left eye having stronger vision than my right eye. And strangely enough I always thought, and wondered why, it’s usually just my left 14 that gets fogged, but not my right 14. Maybe together with my dominant left eye, the left side of my brain is working harder, and thus getting hotter; I dunno.
You’ve presented some good options, with what looks like better cost/benefit trade-off and value proposition. Another possibility might be two COTI’s (one on each 14) for less than the price of a single ECOTI.
@@wherenowhow6037 Thank you for saving me the time and effort of exploring any further down the 2 COTI dead-end path, and for reiterating and reinforcing your previous advice about turning down the gain on the right 14 to half of that on the left 14/COTI, and how that facilitates image fusion between the eyes and brain.
hi nitewalker, please i have same setup but i am not able to record with my breach, nor i am abel to connect it via BT with any phone or tablet.. what am I doing wrong ? thanks
Hey guy i have for longtime wanted a handheld thermal medium quality but wp anpvs14 gen 3 separate use any help would apprecaited i am retired military and most companies do notbgive any discount.
So the 123a battery is 3.3 to 3.4 volts and the anker 10,000 you use is a 5 volts. does this hurt the unit? and also could you use the external battery with a rechargeable 123a battery in the unit at the same time?
I've got an iray mh25 and a pvs-14 on the same KVC bridge. The mh25 is pretty good for detection, but it's garbage for identification IMO. Just too low resolution. Thermal is super weird looking anyway. The resolution of the pvs-14 is crazy high compared to the mh25 and the mh25 (like all digital systems, I imagine) has a lot of latency, especially noticeable when panning. I really like the bino + e-coti idea. I bet that's the absolute best solution available right now. I'd love to try it sometime.
Is the KVC universal bridge mount still the best mount for a PVS-14 and FLIR Breach combination? I’m currently having a hard time finding one in stock to buy so I’m wondering if there is any other options that are of equal quality. Thanks for the help.
It is but as you’ve found they are practically Unobtainium at this time. The best alternate solution that has similar capabilities is the Wilcox binocular bridge system.
Looking at going this route for my first set up! How does the breach image overlay in the nvg image? I assumed this type of set up would give you two separate images
Recently had my 2 x high $$ cost L3 TNVC PVS-14’s serviced and cleaned by a reputable competitor. I was advised they are both low-grade L3 unfilmed WP with multiple deficiencies. Not what I wanted to hear. Live and learn. Apparently high price tag doesn’t equal high quality. TNVC. I have been happy with all the other purchases not assembled by TNVC.
Look, this channel is my channel and not TNVC’s. Your comment has nothing to do with this video which is about using a Breach and PVS-14 together so I’d appreciate keeping comments relevant. TNVC offers this service for free to customers and it would have cost you nothing to send it in. “Higher” grade tubes don’t mean they are better then “lower” grade tubes. I’ve seen “higher” grade tubes with lower specs than “lower” grade. There is too much vendor drama already on the internet and I won’t tolerate it on my channel. I’ll block and remove these types of comments and people. If this is a real comment and not a shit-post, bear in mind that NV drama is worse than high school so it’s more common than not for vendors to talk shit about their competitors. If you’re for real and have questions about any of this please contact me privately and we’ll discuss. Otherwise, don’t respond dragging this on. Thanks
so ive been saving for over a year. and i want either a rnvg or mod 3 bravo. is the rnvg worth the extra 600 bucks. if i split the mod 3 apart. what all do i need besides the extra helmet and mount. like another battery/power source how does that work. i want thin filmed green. as i will use ir light when needed.
The splitting apart thing is something I recommend you fully explore if it’s something you will realistically take advantage of. I split devices apart such as the dual PVS-14’s because I take pics and video so it’s something I use. Otherwise, I would never split them apart. The RNVG will be a little lighter and it’s a better device being made of out aluminum plus it has integrated battery pack capability. Using a battery pack isn’t necessary but at least it’s there if you decide to use the feature. If you do the Mod-3’s, you will need something like a Wilcox j-arm and another mount to use the monocular you detach from the Mod-3 bridge. Plus a counterweight of some sort and any supporting accessories such as IR helmet lights.
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION thanks! this is going to sound really stupid but I was considering mounting my pistol to the back of my helmet as it's a subcompact (weighs 26 oz unloaded) and I was curious if the weights were comparable. its free real estate
Very interested in which USB-A to USB-C cable you are using. I can’t seem to find a good fit for this application. Any comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for the video! You have restored hope!
It’ll fit inside the TNVC NVP-OE pouch. You can break down the bridge since it’s a QD system and fit everything inside tnvc.com/shop/tnvc-nvg-pouch-padded-expandable-nvg-ppe/ If you want a hard case then you’ll want a pick foam Pelican or Apache case
Hi Nitewalker. If a company will not send you a spec sheet for in-stock PVS14 is that a bad sign? Looking at L3 green tube pvs14 in knights housing, compare to PVS-14 4g Echo Un-Filmed Auto-Gated White Phosphor Monocular. What would go with? I kind of like WP better to look though but want best value for $$$$. They are $200 difference in cost. Thanks.
It depends. Spec sheets are ITAR controlled so they may be leery to email them. However they should be willing to at least tell you what the specs are if they have it in stock. If they don’t want to do that, then yes IMO, that’s sketchy. If the green gen 3 has good specs, say 30 signal to noise ratio, then I’d personally take that over the Echo WP. If the SNR is mid to low 20’s, then I’d go Echo
Would this completely clash with a green phosphor pvs14? I’m really interested in trying this set up but if it won’t “semi-fuse” at all then I’ll just go with a second pvs14. Thanks!
I’m using a PVS-14 with a Wilson mount that flips up to stalk hogs. My problem is once I see hogs and get to my shooting position, the PVS-14 will not flip far enough up to allow me to shoot with my Trijicon MK3 60mm without removing the helmet. Any suggestions from anyone?
Is it in the way when it’s fully stowed, pointing towards the sky? If so, then I assume you have the Wilcox G11? If so, then you have some different mount options depending on how much you want to spend.
@@redtexan4381 If you end up getting another mount, I recommend the Norotos INVG and dual dovetail adapter. It's more stable and you can stow -14 against the helmet instead of it sticking out in front.
So when will TNVC have those elusive KVC bridge, kclips and shoes be in stock? last they said Jan-Feb, but still checking site daily, still out of stock? I'm not a fan of getting charged for the privilege of a back order... how about convincing tnvc to take a backorder and not charge until an actual item is ready to ship? p.s. congrats on the job
My understanding is that they are supporting thermal weapon sights that are still under warranty. They still sell and support non-weapon mounted thermals like the Breach to civilians.
Was thinking what if TNVC had a system where you could sell your night vision to them and they could resell it for cheap. Otherwise eBay or gun websites are the only way. Also wondering how much it would cost to build your own night vision vs buying, and how would you do it? Need to contact manufacture? TNVC I guess still has a 3+ month wait time, wondering how’s that going and if they are upgrading for more demand.
These days, building your own nv doesn't save you any money. Even when it did, it was worth it to buy new with a warranty. Everything, including repairs, is expensive with NV. There isn't a cheaper "good enough" option in this area.
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Silent Solutions, who I know is a TNVC guy, constantly bad-mouths this setup. His certainty on everything he discusses is aggravating; he doesn't appear to ever be open minded or curious on anything he hasn't tried.
His and other opinions/experiences come from MIL/LE applications, and in that type of use I’ll agree it’s not something I’d recommend. It’s better suited to recreational use.
Sam’s videos are the best I’ve seen in terms of technical content, tremendous educational value, much appreciate the knowledge he shares (which I haven’t found anywhere else on UA-cam). But I agree with Will that you have to understand the context of Sam’s opinions and advice he offers being that they come out of his MIL/LE experience and are tailored to that particular application, and thus may not always be the most appropriate for recreational applications like hunting or wilderness protection from predators. An example of this is that Sam doesn’t recommend IR lasers for pistols. He says that “pros” no longer use them. He didn’t elaborate an explanation, but it’s easy to figure out why. For “pros,” that being MIL/LE, ... the bad guys - enemy forces, insurgents, guerillas, terrorists, cross-border smugglers, human coyotes, drug cartels, gangs, etc. - these days many of them have NV, and thus must be assumed to be using them. If MIL/LE use IR lasers for targeting, that could give away their position (and existence) to the bad guys and thus their use could be a fatal mistake. So Sam’s advice is appropriate and makes sense, in that particular context. But in the context of recreational applications, ... hogs, coyotes, bear, and cougar aren’t wearing NV goggles and can’t see your IR laser. Although Sam knocks IR lasers as being not the most accurate for targeting, in my personal experience I find them to be just as accurate as (NV-compatible) high-quality red dots. But IMO the biggest advantage of an IR laser over a (NV-compatible) red dot is that, while red dots are generally pretty good about enabling the shooter to pick up, acquire and get on a target relatively quickly, I find that, at night, an IR laser is even better in that regard. This would especially be the case in a nighttime sudden SHTU (underpants-soiling) high-stress surprise encounter with a bear or cougar at relatively short range (less than 25 yards), where that target is moving and your focus needs to stay squarely on the threat. But definitely love Sam’s vids! ... As well as Will’s, which provide a very helpful, useful, alternative perspective and context for those of us with recreational applications!
Congratulations to the new job.
Thanks Arno!
Your videos are the gold standard for others to follow. Thank you for putting so much detailed information in easy to digest videos and actually showing how things are set up and how they look through a camera. Subscribed with alerts!
Thanks. Sincerely appreciate the kind words. 🤙
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION So the 123a battery is 3.3 to 3.4 volts and the anker 10,000 you use is a 5 volts. does this hurt the unit? and also could you use the external battery with a rechargeable 123a battery in the unit at the same time?
So the TNVC representative, Will, who I talked to over the phone last month was actually you! Thank you for spending over an hour on the phone with me and I'm very very happy with the NGI Photonis ECHO PVS-14 that you led me to purchase. I'll surely call you guys back in the future for my night vision needs.
Yessir that was me 🤙
I expect a l3 panoramic nvg review now haha. Congrats on the new job dude.
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Make it F-panos!
Dude! I just talked with you when calling TNVC🇺🇸 Awesome man! Congrats on the new job🇺🇸
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Lol. Thanks brother!
so glad your gettin the job man, your content is superb and unlike any other
Thanks 🤙
Congratulations on the new job! Maybe within the next year I'll be one of your customers!
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Congrats on the job. I spoke to you yesterday about a MAWL. You provided me with excellent customer service, thanks!
Right on🤙
Hey Man I spoke to you last week. Congrats on the Job!!
Thanks!
I run this setup with both down and just go back and forth between eyes. Having both is a game changer.
How long can you comfortably keep both on your head?
I just started using an iRay MH25 bridged w/ PVS-14 using Wilcox Bridge. I found the IPD adjustment on the Wilcox Bridge is really awesome, made "ghetto" fusion work for me. Turning down the brightness and contrast also helps.
I live in middle Tennessee and I've been meaning to get over towards Bristol to check y'all out a TNVC.
Great Review! And Congrats on joining a fantastic team. I’ve been running a KVC bridge with my Skeet IRX and PVS14 for about a year. I absolutely love the setup and my experience mirrors yours. Since running that setup, I’ve scored on every hunt I’ve done. Like you mention, I even use it for day hunts with just the Skeet. Easy to find anything living around you.
👍 I just saw this after talking with you. Helmet mounted thermal. Someone on IG pointed out to me how to tighten up the loose arm. I added it to the video description
Congrats on the job buddy! Can’t wait for the further channel growth
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Cool congratulations dude ! I personally feel you have One of the best channels and now you get access to just about everything!!! I can’t wait !
Thanks brother. Definitely stay tuned 🤐
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION I don't know if your out here in socal but if you are and ever need help filming stuff I am down!!! just hit me up I am near Redlands
@@Sandmanthesniper I’m in Arizona
Congrats on the new job. You'll do well.
Outstanding video. Thanks!
Congrats man! Those guys seem to hire the right folks professional end users and enthusiasts. I love it!
Congrats sir! Well deserved
Thank you sir 👍
Congratulations! I love this set up and I feel like I need this in my life
Congratulations! Looking fwd to awesome content !
Thanks!
Congratulations on the job TNVC is a great place
Great vid! I’m looking forward to getting a breach to bridge with my 14. Thanks for the info and congrats on the new job!
Thanks bro 🤙
Thanks for the videos man, great job presenting the details most reviewers dont seem to have hands on experience or use time to figure out.
Congrats on your job with TNVC!!! You got me started in night vision and ive recommended your channel to many. Glad you will be able to help more people into this industry!
Ive thought about going with this combo but ive been currently hog hunting rock canyons, with the heat coming off the rocks from daytime heating, how will the image look thru the PTQ-136?
Thanks! I haven’t used it in rock canyons so can’t say 100% but I’ve used it around large boulders, etc.
You’ll have to play with the settings to find the best combo. There are a lot of adjustments available in the menu. Outdoor alert may not work very well but black/white hot should be good to go.
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION thoughts on breach vs mh25 or ml19? The breach seems more rugged to me personally.
@@Jose-fc5yd Myself I prefer the Breach cause it’s FLIR over the overseas options but I also feel it’s outdoor alert mode is better than anything else I’ve used. I love that palette. Its better than anybody else’s version IMHO.
It also works fantastic for my location where my open areas for typically under 50 yards. A 640 looks nicer but has the same capabilities in that kind of distance.
It is built tough and is tiny as hell. It’s a great little handheld scanner easily fits inside jacket pocket or tucked in with a neck lanyard.
With that said it’s sensor & lens size obviously aren’t going to perform as good as at further distances compared to a 640.
Congratulations
I have the same setup, but use the mod armory attach parts. it worked right out of the box for me. very happy with the setup
I’m looking to set this up. Nothing is in stock. Can you tell me your parts list?
@@dylanb.football2025 basically the PVS-14 is a Harris gen 3 WP, the bridge mount is the mod armory setup with the part that replaces the J-arm. the breach uses the mod armory fittings.
Congratulations. Maybe one day you can add to the dual Pvs14 bridge mount video with the Wilcox Bridge mount! 🤣
Thanks, lol.
I'm pretty sure you're the same Will my coworker is dealing with for our orders both for the store and ourselves. Can't wait to get my DTNVS! Thanks for making these videos, it really helps me learn more about NV because I will soon be using it frequently and selling it in our store.
Right on 👍👍
Thanks for the great videos, very informative and helpful, and congratulations on joining a great company, the best in the NV industry!
I have two PVS-14’s and a FLIR Breach and would like to be able to do the same thing (i.e. PVS-14 on my right eye & FLIR Breach on my left eye), but also to try an additional, more flexible option (if I can figure out how to do it) of mounting the Breach on some sort of J-Arm setup attached to a longer, extended rail on the left side of my helmet, which would allow me to articulate the left PVS-14 (mounted on either a Knight Vision bridge or Wilcox bridge) up out of the way and then swing the Breach into place in front of my left eye. I am hoping that either the Knight Vision J-Arm Modular Replacement or the Mod Armory J Arm Adapter might work for trying to rig up a setup like this. (Yes, I know that this is getting heavy on my head, but so far I’m fine with two PVS-14’s.)
To try to accomplish this, I placed a large order of Knight Vision and Wilcox mounting hardware (bridges, arms, clips, shoes) with TNVC back in September. TNVC charged my credit card over $2.5k for the order at that time, back when I placed the order, in September, and told me that my order would be delivered in 5 weeks. It’s now been 5 months, and still no delivery. TNVC has had my money, over $2.5k, for the last 5 months. I trust TNVC because of its stellar reputation. But I agree with @LTGOneill here (in his comment below) about “convincing TNVC to take a backorder and not charge until an actual item is ready to ship.” All of the other vendors I do business with don’t charge my card until the order ships. TNVC seems to be the odd man out of step with the rest of the industry.
But I continue to be patient, 5 months and counting. I hope you’re right that these items will be arriving this month (February). I’d be most grateful if you could check up on my order (#373488) and see that it doesn’t slip through the cracks, get left by the wayside or forgotten, with the scramble when these items do eventually arrive. Many thanks, and thanks again for the excellent videos!
Unfortunately, we're at the mercy of when they actually arrive. What makes matters worse is that lead times are wacky right now on a lot of products including KVC. When you ordered that was the expected lead time. I'll check on the status of your order tomorrow.
Thank you again for your quick response, especially on this one. I do understand, as it’s been this way with everything in the last year. Most of my optics orders have been taking anywhere from 4 to 8 months between order and delivery. This last year has taught us the value of patience.
Jaimie has kept me informed (and ‘hanging on in quiet desperation,’ as the old Pink Floyd song goes) with a terse, polite response every month or two when I reach out to him to ask for a status update.
But wow, it’s great having you onboard at TNVC and so accessible, (like Sam) educating us here on UA-cam and responding to our queries! Thanks for your help!
@@charleswhalen7332 Hi Charles, unfortunately we don’t have any updates other than we were told they should arrive this month.
Many thanks, Will, for the follow-up, checking on that and getting back to me. Looking forward to more of your videos!
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Awesome! Congratulations!
Congrats!
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appreciate the vid / review , in similar situation w/ needing NV & Thermal. 👍👍
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I remember stumbling around with pvs-4's on the dmz in 86'....
Thanks for sharing.
WOW..I LOVE THE CONCEPT, BUT UNFORTUNATELY I HAVE MEDICAL NECK ISSUES. THANKS FOR THE ADVICE MONO VS DUAL..
A lightweight bino is definitely the ticket over dual -14’s if you want both eyes. The lighter the better obviously 👍
I broke my back during some fun outside conus. I'm right there with you. A single 14 without a counterweight is hell within a few minutes. The next day is worse. Thanks for the head's up. Coti is where it's at I guess 🤷♂️
@@SkeezyFPV COTI & ECOTI are damn cool. It’s a little busy on a single but effective
Congrats! Keep up the awesome content, I love this channel
Thanks Brant!
That was a great video.
Excellent!!!
Definitely look forward to this with the pixelsontarget voodoo s
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video actually starts at 2:37
Sweet.
It can only ever look forward.
Will you be posting a video on the next generation COTI, the new ECOTI (that you mentioned in the video)?
Hoping you can address the major complaint I’ve heard about its predecessor, the COTI - namely, that the thermal outline overlay doesn’t always line up properly in sync with the PVS-14’s NV image, and that it needs frequent adjustment. Wondering if the new ECOTI (now with a 30-degree FOV, 50% greater than the COTI’s 20-degree FOV, and so closer to the PVS-14’s 40-degree FOV) improves upon this weakness of the COTI?
There's a pretty good chance I'll be showing the ECOTI however I won't have a COTI to compare
Great, Will, thanks for the response! Very much looking forward to your review of the ECOTI at some point in the future, hopefully after an extended time using it, like this video you just posted after 2.5 months with the PVS-14/Breach right-eye/left-eye setup. No need really to look backwards to the COTI, but rather hopefully just an in-depth review of your extended use of the ECOTI and how well the two images sync up (the ECOTI’s thermal outline overlay onto the PVS-14’s NV image). At $8.4k, it had better be flawless in that regard.
At that price, I could, at best, at most, possibly, maybe, stretch for a single one. I assume that a single ECOTI can only overlay onto just one PVS-14, and not onto both PVS-14’s (in a dual PVS-14 setup). So I would be interested in how your brain handles that (the slightly different image between the two eyes, with one eye not getting the thermal outline overlay while the other eye does). After how you’ve managed to train your brain to quasi-fuse the Breach image (in Outdoor Alert mode, turned down to low brightness setting) from your left eye and mentally overlay it onto and sync it up with the PVS-14 WP image in your right eye, that should be a piece of cake, relatively speaking.
After extended usages of both: 1) the PVS-14/Breach right-eye/left-eye setup (and manually swapping back and forth between the Breach and a second PVS-14 on your left eye), and 2) dual PVS-14’s with a single ECOTI overlay onto one of the PVS-14’s, ... I would be interested in your opinion about the relative comparison and trade-offs between these two different setups and the cost/value proposition between them, within the contexts of different applications. ... Namely, do you think one may be better suited for MIL/LE applications and the other might be better suited for recreational applications? ... e.g., like possibly the ECOTI for MIL/LE applications, while the PVS-14/Breach setup (with manually swapping back and forth between the Breach and a second PVS-14 on the left eye) may be sufficient and work well enough for night hiking applications in cougar/bear country?
I realize that this will be very personal, that will vary from one person to another, but just interested in your take (after you've had a chance to try out the ECOTI). Thanks!
@@wherenowhow6037 Excellent advice; thank you for the very comprehensive explanation! COTI/PAS-29A is less than half the price of ECOTI.
You have also provided me with the solution to my fogging problem in the hotter months. Don’t know why I hadn’t thought of that, but yup, my eyes are buried down in tunnel vision NODs. I need to back them off as you suggested. I’m right-handed but left-eye dominant, with my left eye having stronger vision than my right eye. And strangely enough I always thought, and wondered why, it’s usually just my left 14 that gets fogged, but not my right 14. Maybe together with my dominant left eye, the left side of my brain is working harder, and thus getting hotter; I dunno.
You’ve presented some good options, with what looks like better cost/benefit trade-off and value proposition. Another possibility might be two COTI’s (one on each 14) for less than the price of a single ECOTI.
@@wherenowhow6037 Thank you for saving me the time and effort of exploring any further down the 2 COTI dead-end path, and for reiterating and reinforcing your previous advice about turning down the gain on the right 14 to half of that on the left 14/COTI, and how that facilitates image fusion between the eyes and brain.
Do y'all have universal bridges in stock over there at TNVC?
No sir unfortunately they haven’t been making them the last 2 years. No ETA at this time
hi nitewalker, please i have same setup but i am not able to record with my breach, nor i am abel to connect it via BT with any phone or tablet.. what am I doing wrong ?
thanks
Do you have access to the AGM Sting IR 640? Love to have you review it! Great video!
Would the modarmy bridge work too? Or are there issues with picture alignment?
the new Panobridge lets you tilt the flir monocular until it really aligns with the PVS14
Hey guy i have for longtime wanted a handheld thermal medium quality but wp anpvs14 gen 3 separate use any help would apprecaited i am retired military and most companies do notbgive any discount.
So the 123a battery is 3.3 to 3.4 volts and the anker 10,000 you use is a 5 volts. does this hurt the unit? and also could you use the external battery with a rechargeable 123a battery in the unit at the same time?
I've got an iray mh25 and a pvs-14 on the same KVC bridge. The mh25 is pretty good for detection, but it's garbage for identification IMO. Just too low resolution. Thermal is super weird looking anyway. The resolution of the pvs-14 is crazy high compared to the mh25 and the mh25 (like all digital systems, I imagine) has a lot of latency, especially noticeable when panning. I really like the bino + e-coti idea. I bet that's the absolute best solution available right now. I'd love to try it sometime.
Is the KVC universal bridge mount still the best mount for a PVS-14 and FLIR Breach combination? I’m currently having a hard time finding one in stock to buy so I’m wondering if there is any other options that are of equal quality. Thanks for the help.
It is but as you’ve found they are practically Unobtainium at this time. The best alternate solution that has similar capabilities is the Wilcox binocular bridge system.
Did you have to collimate them,?
Sort of yes. The breach has margin adjustments so you can shift the screen to basically collimate it to the PVS-14
Looking at going this route for my first set up! How does the breach image overlay in the nvg image? I assumed this type of set up would give you two separate images
Can you talk more about the models you mentioned for a true thermal/night vision fusion for Law enforcement? Where can I contact you?
Check out this video ua-cam.com/video/g24Z2Ck8GzA/v-deo.html
You can get a hold of me through www.TNVC.com
Recently had my 2 x high $$ cost L3 TNVC PVS-14’s serviced and cleaned by a reputable competitor. I was advised they are both low-grade L3 unfilmed WP with multiple deficiencies. Not what I wanted to hear. Live and learn. Apparently high price tag doesn’t equal high quality. TNVC. I have been happy with all the other purchases not assembled by TNVC.
Look, this channel is my channel and not TNVC’s. Your comment has nothing to do with this video which is about using a Breach and PVS-14 together so I’d appreciate keeping comments relevant.
TNVC offers this service for free to customers and it would have cost you nothing to send it in. “Higher” grade tubes don’t mean they are better then “lower” grade tubes. I’ve seen “higher” grade tubes with lower specs than “lower” grade.
There is too much vendor drama already on the internet and I won’t tolerate it on my channel. I’ll block and remove these types of comments and people.
If this is a real comment and not a shit-post, bear in mind that NV drama is worse than high school so it’s more common than not for vendors to talk shit about their competitors.
If you’re for real and have questions about any of this please contact me privately and we’ll discuss. Otherwise, don’t respond dragging this on. Thanks
can you do a review Flir breach vs Iray MH25 or MH25 vs BAE Skeetir-L that'd be awesome
Possibly the MH25 might happen 🤞
Still wanna see what an ir laser will work like with these bridged
so ive been saving for over a year. and i want either a rnvg or mod 3 bravo. is the rnvg worth the extra 600 bucks. if i split the mod 3 apart. what all do i need besides the extra helmet and mount. like another battery/power source how does that work. i want thin filmed green. as i will use ir light when needed.
The splitting apart thing is something I recommend you fully explore if it’s something you will realistically take advantage of. I split devices apart such as the dual PVS-14’s because I take pics and video so it’s something I use. Otherwise, I would never split them apart. The RNVG will be a little lighter and it’s a better device being made of out aluminum plus it has integrated battery pack capability. Using a battery pack isn’t necessary but at least it’s there if you decide to use the feature.
If you do the Mod-3’s, you will need something like a Wilcox j-arm and another mount to use the monocular you detach from the Mod-3 bridge. Plus a counterweight of some sort and any supporting accessories such as IR helmet lights.
Have you compared the iRay ML19 Mini to the Flir Breach?
Negative. I haven’t
How waterproof is the flir
I emailed flir they say it's ip54 not 67
I want this set up
Thank you so much. Would this work on the 40 or 51 FOV? Thank you.
Do you still work for TNVC?
Yessir still there
Could I do this with a Flir Breach & NVM-14?
Yes
how much weight do you have mounted to the back of your helmet if you're including the battery?
Just weighed it for ya. 23.8oz.
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION thanks! this is going to sound really stupid but I was considering mounting my pistol to the back of my helmet as it's a subcompact (weighs 26 oz unloaded) and I was curious if the weights were comparable. its free real estate
@@monk7666 That’ll be one hell of a counterweight! Lol
Very interested in which USB-A to USB-C cable you are using. I can’t seem to find a good fit for this application. Any comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for the video! You have restored hope!
I bought it on Amazon. Search for 90 degree usb-a to usb-c cable. They all looked pretty much the same
what size puch/case would this need? Would a standard pvs14 case work?
It’ll fit inside the TNVC NVP-OE pouch. You can break down the bridge since it’s a QD system and fit everything inside tnvc.com/shop/tnvc-nvg-pouch-padded-expandable-nvg-ppe/
If you want a hard case then you’ll want a pick foam Pelican or Apache case
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION thanks g, great content btw
Does TNVC sell all this, would you be able to set it up for a customer? Can you use a MAWL with that set up?
Hi Nitewalker. If a company will not send you a spec sheet for in-stock PVS14 is that a bad sign? Looking at L3 green tube pvs14 in knights housing, compare to PVS-14 4g Echo Un-Filmed Auto-Gated White Phosphor Monocular. What would go with? I kind of like WP better to look though but want best value for $$$$. They are $200 difference in cost. Thanks.
It depends. Spec sheets are ITAR controlled so they may be leery to email them. However they should be willing to at least tell you what the specs are if they have it in stock. If they don’t want to do that, then yes IMO, that’s sketchy.
If the green gen 3 has good specs, say 30 signal to noise ratio, then I’d personally take that over the Echo WP. If the SNR is mid to low 20’s, then I’d go Echo
Anyone know where to get the k clips and oss ones
We also have the NVG， like pvs18,pvs14......
Equipment list for the the setup posted already?
Added to description
Would this completely clash with a green phosphor pvs14? I’m really interested in trying this set up but if it won’t “semi-fuse” at all then I’ll just go with a second pvs14. Thanks!
If you brain & set up can merge the images, it'll work.
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION thank you for answering all our questions. I’m sure they repeat at times haha. Appreciate your videos!
@@SnackPack913 🤙
Maybe you can find out what the status of the KVC bridge and shoes that I ordered 3 months ago from TNVC?
We're expecting them to arrive this month. Unfortunately, that's all of the info at the moment.
@@holdencaulfield4291 You must be a TNVC fanboy to post that type of comment
Put the pvs 14in a box post to uk thanks😃
😮😂
I’m using a PVS-14 with a Wilson mount that flips up to stalk hogs. My problem is once I see hogs and get to my shooting position, the PVS-14 will not flip far enough up to allow me to shoot with my Trijicon MK3 60mm without removing the helmet. Any suggestions from anyone?
Is it in the way when it’s fully stowed, pointing towards the sky? If so, then I assume you have the Wilcox G11? If so, then you have some different mount options depending on how much you want to spend.
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION yes, the G11 was the cheaper way for me to get started so that’s what I opted for
@@redtexan4381 If you end up getting another mount, I recommend the Norotos INVG and dual dovetail adapter. It's more stable and you can stow -14 against the helmet instead of it sticking out in front.
@@wherenowhow6037 THANK YOU!! I do have some ideas of running duals so that would have me ready without having to buy anything else
So when will TNVC have those elusive KVC bridge, kclips and shoes be in stock? last they said Jan-Feb, but still checking site daily, still out of stock? I'm not a fan of getting charged for the privilege of a back order... how about convincing tnvc to take a backorder and not charge until an actual item is ready to ship? p.s. congrats on the job
They told us February so hopefully soon. Everybody’s in the same boat waiting on them unfortunately. Thanks, I appreciate it.
So is FLIR still not repairing civilian owned devices or did they change their position?
My understanding is that they are supporting thermal weapon sights that are still under warranty. They still sell and support non-weapon mounted thermals like the Breach to civilians.
They *kinda* do 🤣🤷♂️
Is there a cheap alternate for the flir breach
I did this setup for AIRSOFT 😎
Was thinking what if TNVC had a system where you could sell your night vision to them and they could resell it for cheap. Otherwise eBay or gun websites are the only way.
Also wondering how much it would cost to build your own night vision vs buying, and how would you do it? Need to contact manufacture?
TNVC I guess still has a 3+ month wait time, wondering how’s that going and if they are upgrading for more demand.
These days, building your own nv doesn't save you any money. Even when it did, it was worth it to buy new with a warranty. Everything, including repairs, is expensive with NV. There isn't a cheaper "good enough" option in this area.
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Silent Solutions, who I know is a TNVC guy, constantly bad-mouths this setup. His certainty on everything he discusses is aggravating; he doesn't appear to ever be open minded or curious on anything he hasn't tried.
His and other opinions/experiences come from MIL/LE applications, and in that type of use I’ll agree it’s not something I’d recommend. It’s better suited to recreational use.
Sam’s videos are the best I’ve seen in terms of technical content, tremendous educational value, much appreciate the knowledge he shares (which I haven’t found anywhere else on UA-cam). But I agree with Will that you have to understand the context of Sam’s opinions and advice he offers being that they come out of his MIL/LE experience and are tailored to that particular application, and thus may not always be the most appropriate for recreational applications like hunting or wilderness protection from predators.
An example of this is that Sam doesn’t recommend IR lasers for pistols. He says that “pros” no longer use them. He didn’t elaborate an explanation, but it’s easy to figure out why. For “pros,” that being MIL/LE, ... the bad guys - enemy forces, insurgents, guerillas, terrorists, cross-border smugglers, human coyotes, drug cartels, gangs, etc. - these days many of them have NV, and thus must be assumed to be using them. If MIL/LE use IR lasers for targeting, that could give away their position (and existence) to the bad guys and thus their use could be a fatal mistake. So Sam’s advice is appropriate and makes sense, in that particular context.
But in the context of recreational applications, ... hogs, coyotes, bear, and cougar aren’t wearing NV goggles and can’t see your IR laser. Although Sam knocks IR lasers as being not the most accurate for targeting, in my personal experience I find them to be just as accurate as (NV-compatible) high-quality red dots.
But IMO the biggest advantage of an IR laser over a (NV-compatible) red dot is that, while red dots are generally pretty good about enabling the shooter to pick up, acquire and get on a target relatively quickly, I find that, at night, an IR laser is even better in that regard. This would especially be the case in a nighttime sudden SHTU (underpants-soiling) high-stress surprise encounter with a bear or cougar at relatively short range (less than 25 yards), where that target is moving and your focus needs to stay squarely on the threat.
But definitely love Sam’s vids! ... As well as Will’s, which provide a very helpful, useful, alternative perspective and context for those of us with recreational applications!
@@charleswhalen7332 Thanks to both of you for the response, and the well considered perspective.
@@charleswhalen7332 Ageeed :)
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