What looks best to your eye? As I don't think looking at a recording recorded on the device and saying you pick what's best is a true reflection of what you actually see when looking through them. I know what I see through eyepiece is different to what's recorded due to compression and encoding used. But it does give you a good idea, but I'd like to know what your personal thoughts are as you looked through all of them.
It possibly looks like the brightness and contrast need to be adjusted to even them up. I know the guide has settings from washed out looking to dark etc.
Are you going to do a similar test with the Hik 19mm and others of about the same size. This type of comparison is excellent and you should be commended for doing it, Thank You.
@@OpticsWarehouse1 Is there any monocular or binoculars that you would recommend that are around 500 USD that has good thermal vision (infrared / heat sensing)?
Thanks for that a great review, I prefer white hot for identification and shooting. I think black hot is almost dumbing down the thermals. I find black hot is certainly superior for assessing terrain before you move through it but not as detailed as white hot. There is a linear feature in the background beyond the trees i'm interested if it actually was a road. There was a variety of definition on that feature. Thats the sort of thing we want to see as shooters (always scout your shooting area first in daylight though). It would be good to see the pixel pitch put up, smaller pixels while providing better definition are also less sensitive than larger pixels to temperature is that your finding too?
Hi Wild Skills, thank you for your comment. I can understand what you mean in terms of the black hot , I think it is more situation dependant as you say. That's a good point, we shall take that into consideration.
@@OpticsWarehouse1 Hi Guys the other thing is that most of us working hunters use mainly white-hot. It's no accident the US military with an unlimited budget work almost without exception in white-hot. As a suggestion could you assess the optics in working white-hot palettes too please.
" It would be good to see the pixel pitch put up, smaller pixels while providing better definition are also less sensitive than larger pixels to temperature is that your finding too?" I don't think they work exactly like a CMOS sensor. The pixel pitch i have seen on units both 17um and 12 um. 12 um being the more advance architecture and yes smaller but also they were somehow able to keep and match the same sensitivity between the models. Don't necessarily look at pixel pitch for image performance the main key is the sensitivity value given.
@@BushMasterThermal I've since field tested the Infiray and Pard equivalents against the Helion. Detection range was about even but the Helion edged out both units beyond 800 meters. The Infiray and Pard imaged a red hind, the Helion did too but only the Helion detected the fawn at its foot. The sweet spot seems to be about 17 um. Yes totally agree NETD in miliK is the real determinant
I bought hik-vision owl 35mm , and it is amazing. the only problem with it is that it does not shows the temperature for high or low spot. it just identify it. also it o has 4 color option; do you have any other option to be better in terms of color option and temperature ?
Most sporting thermal units do not show actual numerical temperatures, as it irrelevant in a hunting situation-this feature is more for commercial work in identifying thermal hotpots on buildings /cabling etc etc If you require a little more colour palette options along with performance ,i would look at the Helion 2 pro range of thermals
Can you please also include Flir in your comparison videos as well? I want to see how much we are over-paying for the name or are they really all that.
You are overpaying for the name - big time. No-one in the UK who knows anything about thermal imagers and their uses for shooting/spotting wildlife would be daft enough to buy anything thermal from FLIR
i had a flir tk and my mate got a hik 6mm both same sensor size and the comparison was eye opening. i sold my flir tk and got a hik for what i sold flir tk for second hand flir tk is pathetic compared to hik thermal the netd is over 50 on flir under 30 with hik. p.s. netd is detect heat
It’s a great scope, feature packed, 1 to 8 zoom, recording, Bluetooth, slightly bigger but has a bigger screen which means bigger picture, 640 X 480 - 50 hertz, lots of detail.
Need to talk about battery life and charging , I think pulsar is the only one which you can replace the battery and the others are built in , which is not good when you need to replace battery
Often cited as a game-changer, but it really isn't. You can buy a spare battery for a Pulsar, but for about a quarter of the cost you can pick up a portable power bank which will charge/run the HIK for about three full charges of the onboard battery. My HIK 35 battery will last 3 to four hours even with the Wifi enabled, and with a powerbank in my pocket another three times that.... so plenty for an extended day's use.
The worst to me is probably the Pulsar because of the background, why on earth they give the background so much contrast? The trees are black and the animals and humans are also black, thats pointless, i thought this is a thermal camera for searching animals / humans etc. Now the user struggle, is that a tree or the animal? the Infiray and Guide are the easiest for spotting animals according to this video.
The Pulsar is heaps better, look at the definition in the background. Reduce the contrast and the brightness on the Pulsar and the image of the person and dog will look nice and sharp. Also, why is the background in the HIK brightening and dimming. That would drive me mad. At the end of the day, most hunters prefer to use well made Euro hunting gear, not massed produced Chinese stuff.
I agree with you. That Pulsar was run on a preset for "Trees" in the demo. I hardly ever use that preset and do most of my work even when in forested areas on "Rocks" setting for the superior definition. The Pulsar has a single button bypassing the menu to press and change from black-hot to white-hot. Black-hot for terrain definition and picking a line to walk. White-hot for working and shooting in. It is not an accident that the US military with an unlimited budget do 95% of their work in white-hot. It'd be good to see a working palette demoed instead of an amateur palette.
Hi James thank you for this Outstanding Video... for spotting Objects flying in the Night and Day Sky e.g. a Drone , a Bat or a Sky Diver... which of those 4 Thermal Monocular would you Recommend ? Please
@@oneonlynono , hello old comment but I wanted to say I have the version 1 of the xq38f I bought 4 years ago. I use it to watch the sky and can pick out airplanes, birds, bats, etc, no problem at all. Have to mess with the contrast and brightness but other than that Pulsar Helion is a good brand. 👍
@@fiaziqbal3279 Yeah but that’s just it. Those other thermals aren’t that much cheaper than the $3000 Pulsar Helion 2 XQ38 (which I personally own). Pulsar is awesome too because they will work on your device 10 years from now. They’re not pushing you to get a new device every couple of years.
I actually like the InfiRay's ability to distinguish living heat in front of trees without the trees blending in because somethings hide near trees
exacly and it still has good image backround quality but it highlights the person
I love the competitive side-by-side views! Thanks for the insight.
The only review you need. This guy just does it properly
Glad you like it! And thanks for watching!
What looks best to your eye? As I don't think looking at a recording recorded on the device and saying you pick what's best is a true reflection of what you actually see when looking through them. I know what I see through eyepiece is different to what's recorded due to compression and encoding used. But it does give you a good idea, but I'd like to know what your personal thoughts are as you looked through all of them.
I have other infiniray products and their sensors are super clear
Thank you for sharing this video. This is amazing.
No problem, thanks for watching!
It possibly looks like the brightness and contrast need to be adjusted to even them up. I know the guide has settings from washed out looking to dark etc.
Are you going to do a similar test with the Hik 19mm and others of about the same size. This type of comparison is excellent and you should be commended for doing it, Thank You.
Thanks, James! We will make a note do get this done!
@@OpticsWarehouse1 Is there any monocular or binoculars that you would recommend that are around 500 USD that has good thermal vision (infrared / heat sensing)?
I think it's a toss-up between the HIK and the Pulsar. Great comparison. 👍🏽🙂
I think it’s safe to say you are a hik fan boy
Actually just received delivery of the HIK Owl 35 today from Optics Warehouse, looking forward to trying it out this evening at the foxes.
Let us know whst you think
How was it?
The InfiRay is the only one that shows a dog lead around the neck.
Thanks for that a great review, I prefer white hot for identification and shooting. I think black hot is almost dumbing down the thermals. I find black hot is certainly superior for assessing terrain before you move through it but not as detailed as white hot. There is a linear feature in the background beyond the trees i'm interested if it actually was a road. There was a variety of definition on that feature. Thats the sort of thing we want to see as shooters (always scout your shooting area first in daylight though). It would be good to see the pixel pitch put up, smaller pixels while providing better definition are also less sensitive than larger pixels to temperature is that your finding too?
Hi Wild Skills, thank you for your comment. I can understand what you mean in terms of the black hot , I think it is more situation dependant as you say. That's a good point, we shall take that into consideration.
@@OpticsWarehouse1 Hi Guys the other thing is that most of us working hunters use mainly white-hot. It's no accident the US military with an unlimited budget work almost without exception in white-hot. As a suggestion could you assess the optics in working white-hot palettes too please.
@@OpticsWarehouse1 so as the original question had asked, was that Road?
" It would be good to see the pixel pitch put up, smaller pixels while providing better definition are also less sensitive than larger pixels to temperature is that your finding too?"
I don't think they work exactly like a CMOS sensor. The pixel pitch i have seen on units both 17um and 12 um.
12 um being the more advance architecture and yes smaller but also they were somehow able to keep and match the same sensitivity between the models.
Don't necessarily look at pixel pitch for image performance the main key is the sensitivity value given.
@@BushMasterThermal I've since field tested the Infiray and Pard equivalents against the Helion. Detection range was about even but the Helion edged out both units beyond 800 meters. The Infiray and Pard imaged a red hind, the Helion did too but only the Helion detected the fawn at its foot. The sweet spot seems to be about 17 um. Yes totally agree NETD in miliK is the real determinant
I bought hik-vision owl 35mm , and it is amazing. the only problem with it is that it does not shows the temperature for high or low spot. it just identify it. also it o has 4 color option; do you have any other option to be better in terms of color option and temperature ?
Most sporting thermal units do not show actual numerical temperatures, as it irrelevant in a hunting situation-this feature is more for commercial work in identifying thermal hotpots on buildings /cabling etc etc
If you require a little more colour palette options along with performance ,i would look at the Helion 2 pro range of thermals
PLEASE, give your opinion ... Axion XM 30 F or HIKMICRO Lynx pro 15 ?!😪😭😱
Can you please also include Flir in your comparison videos as well? I want to see how much we are over-paying for the name or are they really all that.
You are overpaying for the name - big time. No-one in the UK who knows anything about thermal imagers and their uses for shooting/spotting wildlife would be daft enough to buy anything thermal from FLIR
i had a flir tk and my mate got a hik 6mm both same sensor size and the comparison was eye opening.
i sold my flir tk and got a hik for what i sold flir tk for second hand
flir tk is pathetic compared to hik thermal the netd is over 50 on flir under 30 with hik.
p.s. netd is detect heat
Who is the best in your opinion?
maybe infiray
IRay looks as if it give the best definition out of the 4. You can tell its a dog. Its not just a blob of black. I have a xm30 key FYI.
It's because it picks up heat better, just need to turn the contrast down (the pulsar)
Try the steiner nighthunter h35 , really interestrd to see it go up against the pulsar and hik.
It’s a great scope, feature packed, 1 to 8 zoom, recording, Bluetooth, slightly bigger but has a bigger screen which means bigger picture, 640 X 480 - 50 hertz, lots of detail.
Need to talk about battery life and charging , I think pulsar is the only one which you can replace the battery and the others are built in , which is not good when you need to replace battery
Hi, we have a more in-depth review on all of these units coming in the next week. Thanks for watching!
Often cited as a game-changer, but it really isn't. You can buy a spare battery for a Pulsar, but for about a quarter of the cost you can pick up a portable power bank which will charge/run the HIK for about three full charges of the onboard battery. My HIK 35 battery will last 3 to four hours even with the Wifi enabled, and with a powerbank in my pocket another three times that.... so plenty for an extended day's use.
The worst to me is probably the Pulsar because of the background, why on earth they give the background so much contrast? The trees are black and the animals and humans are also black, thats pointless, i thought this is a thermal camera for searching animals / humans etc. Now the user struggle, is that a tree or the animal? the Infiray and Guide are the easiest for spotting animals according to this video.
OWL OH35 or FH35 Falcon???
The Pulsar is heaps better, look at the definition in the background. Reduce the contrast and the brightness on the Pulsar and the image of the person and dog will look nice and sharp. Also, why is the background in the HIK brightening and dimming. That would drive me mad. At the end of the day, most hunters prefer to use well made Euro hunting gear, not massed produced Chinese stuff.
I agree with you. That Pulsar was run on a preset for "Trees" in the demo. I hardly ever use that preset and do most of my work even when in forested areas on "Rocks" setting for the superior definition. The Pulsar has a single button bypassing the menu to press and change from black-hot to white-hot. Black-hot for terrain definition and picking a line to walk. White-hot for working and shooting in. It is not an accident that the US military with an unlimited budget do 95% of their work in white-hot. It'd be good to see a working palette demoed instead of an amateur palette.
Need this for squatch huntin my chickens
Pulsar
Hi James thank you for this Outstanding Video... for spotting Objects flying in the Night and Day Sky e.g. a Drone , a Bat or a Sky Diver... which of those 4 Thermal Monocular would you Recommend ? Please
Of course HIKMICRO, with the best price
For distance I would go for pulsar, picks up heat better (more expensive though but you get what you pay for)
@@alexcorke6716 thank you heaps Alex ... really appreciated... do you have the Pulsar ?
@@oneonlynono yea, they're good quality
@@oneonlynono , hello old comment but I wanted to say I have the version 1 of the xq38f I bought 4 years ago. I use it to watch the sky and can pick out airplanes, birds, bats, etc, no problem at all. Have to mess with the contrast and brightness but other than that Pulsar Helion is a good brand. 👍
The pulsar is the BEST of the wordl
So these are not thermal? I'm confused it says Thermal in the title. These are IR.
All thermal in this one, no IR, although there are inbuilt range finders. Thanks for watching!
🤦 you need little more education
Which of these offer built in rangefinder?
@@OpticsWarehouse1 Wait whats the different between IR and thermal?
Pulsar. I know you are pushing the HIK, but Pulsar all day.....and night.
Where’s agn?
definitely hikmicro
Lol
The pulsar picks up heat better so should of turned the contrast down to compare them
The Helion 2 XQ38 is the best in my opinion. The contrast and clarity is far better than the Hik. The others can’t compare at all.
Consider the price too
@@fiaziqbal3279 Yeah but that’s just it. Those other thermals aren’t that much cheaper than the $3000 Pulsar Helion 2 XQ38 (which I personally own). Pulsar is awesome too because they will work on your device 10 years from now. They’re not pushing you to get a new device every couple of years.
Biggest contrast that's all
@@vacoumy
No. It’s much clearer too. If you can’t see it you’re blind.
hik blows all of them away in the field.