King's Party (Britain's absolute monarchy route in HOI4. The only party allowed by King Edward VIII consisting of; Winston Churchill; David Lloyd George; and Oswald Mosley)
The „oppose hitler“ focus should be longer and more elaborate. For example the only serious coup plan before ww2 was in September 1938, when Erwin von Witzleben and others planned to kill Hitler and restore the monarchy
you have to account for game balance as well, because a civil war is pretty crippling and you need time to recover. the path would be trash and boring if you were constantly behind every other country all the time. this is why multiplayer focused mods generally make it easier to switch ideologies early on and actually do stuff, because vanilla/singleplayer stuff is so awfully unbalanced.
@@usernametaken8968 i never said the anti-stalinist paths were any good, in fact they're awful. the trotsky/bukharin paths should just be coups without civil wars, and the focuses for the non communist paths should be quicker to make up for the fact that the civil war takes forever. but paradox will never do this because they don't actually play their own game.
I think the chances were higher during the Sudeten-Crisis. If Germany didn't have the Munich Conference and declared war of Czechoslovakia, which would've been difficult given that the Sudetenland is heavily fortified, I think THEN, the Wermacht would've coup'ed.
Sounds like Oster conspiracy What a coincidence I originally planned to mention this point in this episode, but I think it strayed a bit off-topic. so nah
He did, but he enlisted, he wasn’t an officer he was a foot soldier, so he didn’t have much strategic prowess to the traditional Prussian (usually noble) officers whom distrusted him at the time.
@@sockguy1122 I actually learnt that roast from Heinrich Müller, chief of Gestapo, who also once called Hitler an "immigrant unemployed house painter" 😅
@@sockguy1122 he had some military background though, he was no general or marshal certainly, but he was a corporal, which is at least more than a recruit.
The Wehrmacht was also mostly made up of conservative, monarchist and reactionary men. Most would rather see the monarchy return rather than some two bit revolutionary.
Yes, They help another for awhile then german attack soviet. German send some tank and crew to train in soviet camp to hide/cover from allies (England and France) eyes.
Before the Nazi takeover in 1933 the Weimar republic secretly collaborated with USSR because both nations are pariah states and nobody else would cooperate with these two country
@@thesettian actually these training stuff happen before 1933. After 1933 the German stopped cooperation with USSR due to obvious anti communism. You're confused with the Molotov Ribbentrop pact of 1939
@@itande0551 He received two medals for bravery, got wounded, and demanded he be sent back to the frontafter his recovery. He was furious to discover that Germany capitulated
The Wehrmacht fights for their country, not for a mad man. No, not mad in emotion but crazy. The Waffen SS and the Allgemeine SS operates directly under the failed Austrian painter. The Wehrmacht and the Waffen-SS had so many conflicts during the war, especially in 1939. The conflict between these 2 branches continues on until 1945. When the Western Allies captured a few Wehrmacht soldiers (from the Heer, Luftwaffe, and the Kriegsmarine). Their punishment is lighter, while on the other hand the Waffen-SS and the Allgemeine SS punishments by the Western Allies are a lot more harsh and heavier... Especially when both branches got captured by the Soviet forces.. You already know their fate.
I have to disagree. From my knowledge of HOI4, the Rhineland is not the cause of the civil war. The Rhineland and the Oppose Hitler focuses were mutually exclusive, whih means that the military opposed Hitler before he had the chance to remilitarise Rhineland. Some focuses in HOI4 in the Oppose Hitler path have stated that the Wehrmacht who sided against Hitler wanted a return to the monarchy (e.g. the Monarchy Compromise focus in the Democratic path) So my theory is that the Wehrmacht in this alternate scenario wanted a return to the monarchy which Hitler would oppose, and no compromises were made, so the civil war started.
General sock I don’t know if your gonna read this comment because this video has been out for 2 weeks as of writing this comment but on your “Soviet union in hoi4 be like” video I CANT FIND THE BACKGROUND MUSIC AND ITS DRIVING ME INSANE. In the description it says the video is no longer available. If your reading this please tell me what the song is to end my suffering
I think this focus is kind of stupid. In 1936 Mustashe man already had almost full control over the army and politics. If they implemented that it should be much longer and should involve more politicking and factional mechanics. Trying to undermined the control of the army. Something more similar to Soviet Civil War in the same game. It should also be uphill battle because majority of Prussians(e.i.e German High Command) did supported the government. Only fracture of these officers were against it. It should also be rather more akin to coupe instead of open civil war.
The same can be said of literally every civil war path, or even every alt history path. If the 20th century happened 100 times you might have small changes, but there is no reality where Japan turns communist and the UK makes the USA a crown territory again.
Well the Military ain`t starting the Civil War but Hitlers Oppositian dose AKA surviving Democrats and Monarchist not swayed by Hitler the Army simply joined them out of loyalty
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⬇What history you guys want to know in the next video?⬇
Hmm. Using Hoi4 as a template.
polish home army resistance??
Maybe the leibstandarte and the security command/office of the austrian dude, because they have a scary and evil history but still had stylish clothes
@@sockguy1122 Stalin's great purge
Lesser known history aka forgoten history nobody knows/cares about (PS I care about it so pls)
King's Party (Britain's absolute monarchy route in HOI4. The only party allowed by King Edward VIII consisting of; Winston Churchill; David Lloyd George; and Oswald Mosley)
The „oppose hitler“ focus should be longer and more elaborate. For example the only serious coup plan before ww2 was in September 1938, when Erwin von Witzleben and others planned to kill Hitler and restore the monarchy
you have to account for game balance as well, because a civil war is pretty crippling and you need time to recover. the path would be trash and boring if you were constantly behind every other country all the time.
this is why multiplayer focused mods generally make it easier to switch ideologies early on and actually do stuff, because vanilla/singleplayer stuff is so awfully unbalanced.
They didn't really have a plan after deposing hitler so restoring the monarchy is not smth i think would happen
@@cr1tikal_arc but then why make us wait a long time to initiate the Russian civil war
@@usernametaken8968 i never said the anti-stalinist paths were any good, in fact they're awful.
the trotsky/bukharin paths should just be coups without civil wars, and the focuses for the non communist paths should be quicker to make up for the fact that the civil war takes forever.
but paradox will never do this because they don't actually play their own game.
Bro's turning into History matters v2 and I'm all for it
oh my god
i love History matters🗣🗣🗣
@@sockguy1122same 🗣️🗣️🗣️
James Bissonette
He has dry humor and is quite literally with what he says, one of them I remember is the “well no” as he shows a literally well with the word no in it
Except it’s alt history.
"wherematch"😭
😭😭😭
I think the chances were higher during the Sudeten-Crisis. If Germany didn't have the Munich Conference and declared war of Czechoslovakia, which would've been difficult given that the Sudetenland is heavily fortified, I think THEN, the Wermacht would've coup'ed.
Sounds like Oster conspiracy
What a coincidence
I originally planned to mention this point in this episode, but I think it strayed a bit off-topic.
so
nah
In-game Hitler dies if France supports Czechoslovakia and Sudetenland crisis escalates.
Hitler jawline was sharper than my grandfather 2 lightning bolts uniform.
🧏🧏🧏
Bros grandfather was having a fun time on the eastern front
Adolf Hitler fought in WW1 with him even getting the Iron Cross
He did, but he enlisted, he wasn’t an officer he was a foot soldier, so he didn’t have much strategic prowess to the traditional Prussian (usually noble) officers whom distrusted him at the time.
I fr thought you were talking about the TNO civil war 😭😭
"Why should a painter with no military background"
Wait isn't Hitler once a soldier in the wermacht in WW1?
Oh, sorry, what I meant is that he doesn't have a "military command" background.👍
1:26 no military background? Do you mean like he was an Austrian draft dodger?
1:26
Oh, my joke might have been a bit too exaggerated.
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I forgot to mention he was an Austrian draft dodger
@@sockguy1122 I actually learnt that roast from Heinrich Müller, chief of Gestapo, who also once called Hitler an "immigrant unemployed house painter" 😅
@@sockguy1122 he had some military background though, he was no general or marshal certainly, but he was a corporal, which is at least more than a recruit.
@sockguy1122 he dodge the austrian draft by going to germany and signing up as a recruit to fight for germany
Hitler had military background though 🤦
he wasnt an officer in the war so didnt actually knew how to operate a squad/battalion/army/etc.
@@gots0359Dude he was a Corporal, he knew squad tactics. He would have been second in command of a squad at that rank
Fahnrich to Vize Feldwebel command squads
This sense of humor is immaculate.
This Comment is immaculate.
I fw this, explaining the lore behind hoi4 focus trees
Hoi4 lore
But seriously interesting video, you should do more like this.
1:40 Noobs in Combat Reference 😮 btw this is an Roblox trun base Startegy game..
As much as I like nic I think that’s just a normal Roblox noob
1:35 Infinity Panzer Faust barrage 1:39 the SS skill issue
goofy ahh SS
0:28 Teutonic order?🤨
YES👍
you found the easter egg!🥚
:D
@@gutentag347 Yazov in TNO: **Rage and screeching in Demons because hatred and revenge*
Gransaddy pulled up
When I hear "Teutonic" I just assume static Dakota ring as of now
Admogolf Gigachadler looking ahh portrait of Hitler
3:47
Ah yes, Heydrich, Speer, Göring, and Bormann 😅
Ah yes
Bro I been playing too much TNO recently, you can't just do that to me 😭
The Wehrmacht was also mostly made up of conservative, monarchist and reactionary men. Most would rather see the monarchy return rather than some two bit revolutionary.
Youre pretty underrated, keep up the good work
thank you :D
0:38 wait training in the soviet union, did that really happend?
Yes, They help another for awhile then german attack soviet.
German send some tank and crew to train in soviet camp to hide/cover from allies (England and France) eyes.
@@thesettian I didn't know that, thanks
Before the Nazi takeover in 1933 the Weimar republic secretly collaborated with USSR because both nations are pariah states and nobody else would cooperate with these two country
@@thesettian actually these training stuff happen before 1933. After 1933 the German stopped cooperation with USSR due to obvious anti communism. You're confused with the Molotov Ribbentrop pact of 1939
@@dauzlee2827 i think so i dont remember much now xd but yeah it around that
Hitler did have some military back ground like he served in ww1 as a corporal
Sorry… the line here is wrong… it should be “no command experience” instead.👍
@@sockguy1122 yeah don't worry, but I got a bit of mind question, do you think the Wehrmacht were good people?
I guess most of them are probably still pretty bad.
@@sockguy1122 imagine if you had a discord where we can ask questions
Damn, I really need a Discord server.
1:56 TNO Reference (The music)
The "Where Matched"
bc the German military mid-1939 and before had little trust in Hitler before late-1939 when Warsaw was captured
"they considered the ss as " 'a bunch of noobs'" i could agree more with the wehrmachts
I like this art, style and edition. Its pretty fun and very entertaiment.
I like this comment very much😀👍
"no military background" Ok palio
yes
but he just a Corporal👍
@@sockguy1122 fair enough
1:25 No military background? Excuse me??
Well I mean delivering letters was probably not seen as much
@@itande0551
He received two medals for bravery, got wounded, and demanded he be sent back to the frontafter his recovery.
He was furious to discover that Germany capitulated
Sorry… the line here is wrong… it should be “no command experience” instead.👍
@@sockguy1122 Ah, understandable
@KnownNiche1999 isn't that proved to be Propaganda made by him to make him like a ''badass''
"Wormmatched" I cant bro
Someone please tell him it’s “Where-Makt”
this is so cute! Its like florks mixed with country balls
i like florks and country balls
both is GOOD
I am so happy I discovered this channel keep up the good work 👍
Definitely👍
Because everyone loves the Kaiser
They did it because the plot demanded it
New Sock Mensch video, I click
new sock comments, i click
Hitler did have a military background though
yes
but he just a Corporal👍
@@sockguy1122 A corporal who was awarded multiple Iron Crosses though.
Werh-Macht
Bro is cooking
No military background? He was a Lance Corporal and trench runner in WW1, for which he won the iron cross!
Sorry… the line here is wrong… it should be “no command experience” instead.👍
1:58 NOOO....NOT THE BOORMAN 2ND OF LONG KNIVES AND BROWN DESK....!!!!!
OH SHI-
Radio: **Start speech and ambient gun out of nowhere due to announce of the purge.*
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
This is real chat
New video when?
Why does hitler have a jaw like that💀🙏
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Do next history video about Mosley
great video but didnt the failed painter serve in ww1?
Sorry!
That was a mistake! What I meant to say was: "no military command background!"👍👍👍
Hitler had a millitary background
Oh, sorry, I meant he doesn't have a "military command" background.👍
love those videos
love this comment
So like the tno African video, will you be making a video on the German colonies in the east?
hey, that's a great topic.
1:26 no military background?
He was literally a WWI vet?
Sorry! There was an error! What I meant to say was: "no military command background"! 👍
@ wrong again, he was a runner in WWI giving orders to other commanders
Oh, sorry, I meant that he never served as an officer or anything like that. My bad...🙏
@@sockguy1122 early leading with the NSDAP would also show other wise but it’s fine, content isn’t the easiest to make.
Thank you! I’ll pay more attention to these details next time :D
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"Painter with no Military Backgrounds". Isn't Hitl*r a WW1 veteran as well??
yes
but he just a Corporal👍
I would like a video about South Africa in Hoi4 TNO, please 😊
new sub
Thanks for sub :D
The Wehrmacht fights for their country, not for a mad man. No, not mad in emotion but crazy. The Waffen SS and the Allgemeine SS operates directly under the failed Austrian painter. The Wehrmacht and the Waffen-SS had so many conflicts during the war, especially in 1939. The conflict between these 2 branches continues on until 1945. When the Western Allies captured a few Wehrmacht soldiers (from the Heer, Luftwaffe, and the Kriegsmarine). Their punishment is lighter, while on the other hand the Waffen-SS and the Allgemeine SS punishments by the Western Allies are a lot more harsh and heavier... Especially when both branches got captured by the Soviet forces.. You already know their fate.
true
These critters are so cute😭
:D
@sockguy1122 i hope you add squeaking noises in these lil guys
It is because paradox is historically illiterate
German sock flag when? 😂 I need to confuse ny friend bad haha 🤣
Nah german sock portraits 😂
@@Coppertie94922 omg... YES! THAT! THEY GONNA BE SO FUCKING CONFUSED LOL
Can you do WRRF one day
AH
The WRRF
The first Russian warlord I played
I will definitely make his video one day
TNO and vanilla lore is nice, where EaW lore tho
It might be my autism speaking, but could you possibly talk about TNO, specifically the corporations that get tackled by Speer
I have to disagree.
From my knowledge of HOI4, the Rhineland is not the cause of the civil war.
The Rhineland and the Oppose Hitler focuses were mutually exclusive, whih means that the military opposed Hitler before he had the chance to remilitarise Rhineland.
Some focuses in HOI4 in the Oppose Hitler path have stated that the Wehrmacht who sided against Hitler wanted a return to the monarchy (e.g. the Monarchy Compromise focus in the Democratic path)
So my theory is that the Wehrmacht in this alternate scenario wanted a return to the monarchy which Hitler would oppose, and no compromises were made, so the civil war started.
Hitler was in ww1
Sorry… the line here is wrong… it should be “no command experience” instead.👍
The text to speech 😞
bro is saying Wehrmatscht
I love this.
thank you Japanese-German guy
General sock I don’t know if your gonna read this comment because this video has been out for 2 weeks as of writing this comment but on your “Soviet union in hoi4 be like” video I CANT FIND THE BACKGROUND MUSIC AND ITS DRIVING ME INSANE. In the description it says the video is no longer available. If your reading this please tell me what the song is to end my suffering
ua-cam.com/video/hG-NuJVaJeQ/v-deo.htmlsi=5lMQm8PJsZFr2ozp
i got you bro
@@sockguy1122 THANK YOU
I really like your art style
I really like this comments
@@sockguy1122 do you have a discord? if not would you make one?
In fact, I’m afraid I don’t have enough time to manage the Discord…
1:58 can anyone tell me what the name of this song is?
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Thanks m8 @sockguy1122
I think this focus is kind of stupid. In 1936 Mustashe man already had almost full control over the army and politics. If they implemented that it should be much longer and should involve more politicking and factional mechanics. Trying to undermined the control of the army. Something more similar to Soviet Civil War in the same game. It should also be uphill battle because majority of Prussians(e.i.e German High Command) did supported the government. Only fracture of these officers were against it. It should also be rather more akin to coupe instead of open civil war.
Bro, you're absolutely right. I completely agree with what you said, but unfortunately, they have to choose between historical accuracy and gameplay.
@@sockguy1122 yeah. Don't take this as attack though. Because you are funny dude.
The same can be said of literally every civil war path, or even every alt history path. If the 20th century happened 100 times you might have small changes, but there is no reality where Japan turns communist and the UK makes the USA a crown territory again.
Well the Military ain`t starting the Civil War but Hitlers Oppositian dose AKA surviving Democrats and Monarchist not swayed by Hitler the Army simply joined them out of loyalty
true
I have a question. I thought Hitler served in World War 1. Why didn't the German army know that? Or am I just
Missing something.
He did, but was only ranked a Corporal, so he served on the frontline as part of charges.
@@Opt_Ops-7z5 Okay. So he wasn't important enough when he was a soldier. For like the higher-ups to know he exists that type of thing. Thank you.
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The wehrmatscht
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