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Can you make a video/song about Admiral Wilhelm Canaris? He was the chief of the Abwehr but executed by the Nazis because he strengthened military resistance in the Wehrmacht and once planned a coup against the government which didn't happen because he hadn't enough soldiers. He is a controversial person, in his position he of course was supporting the regime and he was an anti-Semite, but he positioned against the Holocaust.
Most bands: try to bury their more controversial songs in the hopes that other, more popular songs will take attention away from them Sabaton: "Let's write songs about World War II. From the perspective of the Germans. And question the narrative that all Germans in the time of the war were inherently evil. And also open every concert with a song about the Blitzkrieg." Speaking of which, if the video for Ghost Division does not open with "ALRIGHT SABATON HISTORY! WE ARE SABATON, WE PLAY HEAVY METAL, AND THIS IS GHOST DIVISION!" I might close the video... Probably come back later though
As a German and former member of the German Armed Forces - I agree. Asking those questions IS absolutely right and should be done. There was a lot of grey between black and white back then. I love the song - it's one of my most favorite songs by Sabaton!
I too, think we should always be able to ask questions but given that one is not only responsible for the actions one takes but also the actions one chooses to not take, even grey is just another shade of black. Everybody who turnd there face away and did not partook in the resistance is guilty to some extend. Sure, there are several several level of guilt but never the less its guilt. In my opinion there is no such thing as an inocent Wehrmacht soldier, who just carried out orders cause he could always have choosen to disobay the orders. And yes I know that this was extremly dangerous at the time but a true pacifist is someone who lets himself get shoot to prove that the other one was the aggressor. - a fellow German
My Great Grandfather was a foot soldier and My Great Uncle was a StuG operator, both served in the Wehrmacht on the Easternfront. I ask my family and always want to ask questions but the knowledge was lost when closer relatives passed on. Thank you for your service, comming from the USA.
I’ve always been interested in the Axis perspective of the war. So, I really appreciate songs like this, Ghost Division, and Hearts of Iron. Speaking of which, one of those is definitely missing an episode..
Ohh, you're right, I somehow remembered that Ghost divison already had an episode too, but now I realized it hasn't yet. Maybe in the 1 year anniversary episode...
Well, if you guys cared too much about what offends whom, half of your songs wouldn't exist. I think you're doing it right. Those questions have to be asked, and discussions have to be made about controversial topics too. It's never easy to judge such situations, where the circumstances are shaping people into something immoral but meanwhile people are shaping the circumstances too. It's quite the same with poverty and crime related to poverty for example. Oh, and soon it'll be the 1st of the month so you'll get the money from me. 😀
Its important not only just for the sake of understanding the topic so we have a clear view of history, but also to fulfill the age old adage of "those who do not look at history are doomed to repeat it". I think its very important to look and ask why the people, leaders, soldiers, etc of Germany did what they did. Just labeling them as evil doesn't solve anything, but also just excusing them does just as much harm (perhaps a little more). But looking at just the little details that Indy brought forward paints a far more grey moral area of the conflict and we see the process laid out before us. I think it's less important to judge those involved as good or evil, but understand that the outcome that ended up happening was undesirable and see how we can avoid an event like that in the future. I feel too many people gwt caught up on the idea that these are evil men doing things rather just understanding that humans are prone to these mistakes, and it's NEVER as simple as just someone being evil because they just are.
Yeah if you always worry about offending someone. All it will lead to is censorship and lowering standards to the most easily offended group. Since it super easy to say i find x offesive or claim x is offensive on behalf of y. That and normally it's only a handful of people who feel this way and not the majority. If they are not just flat out lying to try and control people. Since i could say i am offended by history right now, i don't mean it at all but i could simply say it. That and being offended by something is emotional, so might not be the best thing to allow yourself to be controlled by or base your reactions on. Since pure raw emotion, tends to lack logically thinking behind it and tends to be very short term thinking, that can often lead to bad things down the road due to lack of foreslight that more logical thinking would give you.
This video is filled with so many wehraboo tropes and falsehoods. It's also pushing a very misleading narrative of the "clean wehrmacht". This episode is really subpar to anything that they have produced earlier.
Just goes to show that the loudest ones are usually the ones with the smallest numbers. Well, that and the fear of the righteous wrath of Sabaton fans when a very valuable history video is unjustly removed due to 'reasons'.
@@SabatonHistory Seconded. Indy and Time Ghost have tons of superb content. Unfortunately, this has not escaped the attention of our Benevolent Overlords, and many of their videos have been censored due to aforementioned ‘reasons’. I think their entire channel has been demonetized at least a couple times. All the more reason to support them.
As a retired college history instructor, I know the hard questions are the important ones. The questions that challenge you beliefs and understanding. If you can't do a good job of arguing for a position that you are against, you really don't know the position that you are for. If we fail to ask the hard questions about the past, both personal and historic, we are doomed, if not to fail, at least not be as successful as we could be. I wish you had been around back when I was teaching. The things I could have done with your music in the classroom, but such is life.
I'd argue that people aren't so much afraid to ask the questions, but rather are afraid of the repurcussions of asking them. Folks are very heavily opinionated nowadays, and the idea of being ostracized for simply asking a question can be mighty intimidating.
@@lilwyvern4 This is were I have an extreme problem. I'm an introvert, who started life on a cattle ranch with no children my age around. I never belonged to or wanted to belong to a group. Because of that, I couldn't teach my students (or sons) about peer pressure even after I finally believed that it was a real thing.
Thank you for this episode, and even more for the song itself. Not so much for the actual music (it is still easily in the upper half of all Sabaton song), but I find it incredibly brave (and necessary) to release something like this. I don't know about other countries, but here in Austria as an Austrian, you could not ask those questions. If you ask someone on the right, you are an enemy of the state, because "the Wehrmacht did nothing wrong and were just soldiers", and if you ask someone on the left, you are already branded as at least close to the Nazis, because everyone who didn't actively plot to kill Hitler is a monster. My take on the whole thing: Anybody who answers those questions for the entire Wehrmacht in an absolute manner, has a dangerous ideological agenda. In reality, there was most likely everything from really good soldiers that simply didn't see an opportunity to stop the madness to actual monsters in human form.
Well but depends on the people you're asking, not all people root you close to a certain ideology, just because you ask questions. Of cause, if you repeatedly ask modern left extremists or neo nazis these questions, these answers are clear, but normal thinking people imho wouldn't root you near any ideology for asking these questions.
It's like that here where I live in the United states pretty much but I know a few people I could talk to about controversial stuff openly with and we can just discuss it
There was this podcast I listened to that looked at the My Lai massacre which was the slaughter of unarmed South Vietnamese citizens by US troops. It analyzed how it occurred and was very fascinating if you want I can find it? Ps: My girlfriend and I visited Innsbruck over the holidays and had a blast!
"Don't fear answers only fear running out of questions" don't stop asking difficult questions that's how we learn and to ensure that such atrocities don't occur again Thanks guys for another great video further enhancing my curiosity about this era
Well, according to my experience, people who watch Sabaton history (and WW2 channel) are usually able for intelligent debate. This is why I usually read the comments only under these two channels' videos on whole UA-cam.
Lowkey my favourite Sabaton song. The chorus is god like, the beat is amazing, and the Latin adds so much. “Crazy madmen on a leash or young men who lost their way...” amazing.
Thank you guys so much for *not* being afraid of controversy and of hard questions. Especially in today's world where so many are being told they're not allowed to contribute to the discourse for having different views, it's really great to see guys who not just claim to be willing to ask the hard questions, but also to back that claim up. Sabaton doesn't just have great music, but deserves a ton of respect. You guys are awesome!
@Tranhoang Long You'd be surprised how many wehraboos believe the wehrmacht was clean and rommel as welll. Obviously not both of you but I meet too many that believe in the myth of the clean wehrmacht.
@@GorrilazWarfare I'm not a Wehraboo. Yet, in every army there were good men. Not all Germans were monsters and not all Americans were saints. Simple as that. And Rommel knew about Operation Valküre, he isn't as guilty as the nazi leadership was because he literally knew about an assasination attempt on Hitler and didn't do anything about it.
@@Schneter What you are talking about is a common myth(s) created after the nazi regime by Franz Halder in his "Generals' Memorandum" which re-wrote history to make the nazi army look innocent or at least apolitical. The myth of the clean wehrmacht and myth of Rommel were created so that the allies could ignore the reality that the nazi army and the leadership wanted to exterminate Slavs and others and made them "not nazis" so they could quickly re-assemble a new German army to oppose Stalin. You can read it all here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_clean_Wehrmacht#Start_of_the_myth and here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rommel_myth and also here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism_and_the_Wehrmacht "On August 22, 1939, in a conference between Hitler and all of the Reich's senior military leaders, Hitler stated quite explicitly that the coming war against Poland was to be a "war of extermination" in which Hitler expressed his intention to "...to kill without pity or mercy all men, women and children of the Polish race or language".[46] The British historian Sir John Wheeler-Bennett wrote that whatever doubts the Wehrmacht might still have had about the sort of regime that they were about to go to war for and the kind of people that they would be fighting for in this war, should have been clearly dispelled by Hitler's genocidal comments during the conference of August 22, 1939, and that the claims made after the war that the Wehrmacht simply did not understand the nature of the regime that they fought for, are not believable.[46] Anti-Semitic and anti-Polish attitudes like the views expressed above coloured all the instructions that came to Wehrmacht during the summer of 1939 as part of the preparations for the invasion of Poland.[45] The war against the Soviet Union was presented as a war of extermination right from the start. On March 3, 1941, Hitler summoned the entire military leadership to hear a secret speech about the upcoming Operation Barbarossa in which Hitler stressed that Barbarossa was to be a "war of extermination", that the German military was to disregard all the laws of war, and that he both expected and wanted to see the deaths of millions of people.[47] With the exception of Admiral Wilhelm Canaris, who protested that this was both morally and legally wrong, none of the officers who heard Hitler's speech voiced any objections.[47]"
8:25 That reminds of something that Hitler said to his generals before the invasion of Poland:“Our strength consists in our speed and in our brutality. Genghis Khan led millions of women and children to slaughter - with premeditation and a happy heart. History sees in him solely the founder of a state. It’s a matter of indifference to me what a weak western European civilization will say about me. I have issued the command - and I’ll have anybody who utters but one word of criticism executed by a firing squad - that our war aim does not consist in reaching certain lines, but in the physical destruction of the enemy. Accordingly, I have placed my death-head formation in readiness - for the present only in the East - with orders to them to send to death mercilessly and without compassion, men, women, and children of Polish derivation and language. Only thus shall we gain the living space (Lebensraum) which we need. Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?”
@gillecroisd 92 That is brilliant. People who spend their time to truly understand and take a closer look, or better check everything they can find out are rare. Thanks for your participation in historical research.
@gillecroisd 92 Almost, but USSR never had racist propaganda and never officially declaired genocide against Germans as state ideology. At least one difference already exist. Also, USSR in 1941 wasn't antisemitic, it was a state of winned Jewish nazism against Russians and other local nations.
My uncle's family were hardcore Nazis (he was born in the mid 50s) and his mother had an enshrined portrait of Hitler. He ran away from home to join the Bundeswehr, but just from his story, you can see that even within immediate family you can find dramatic differences in opinion, much less an organization that ranged into the multiple millions.
Sorry if I shouldn’t but judging by your surname I’m guessing your family is Chinese as well? Given the help that that China was helped by the Reichswehr and Wehrmacht in the form of training and material, I’m not surprised. That, and the fact that the Nazis fought the Soviets as well as the lack of any education on Nazi atrocities in Asia has many people in Asia still admiring or downright support Nazis. I have friends from Indonesia who told me that if you wave a flag of the Imperial Japanese rising sun or the hammer and sickle, people will beat you up. But if you wave a flag of the Nazi swastika there, people might even pat you on the back.
I'm going to college to become a history teacher and can't wait till I get to play your vids for my students and also introduce them to some quality music
I had goosebumps when Indy quoted the song. In general i like when the lyrics got explenations and or mentioned. I totally agree with Joakim about that we have to have discussions about theese topics too... they might not be comfortable but if you don't talk about them that's worse
One of the best parts of Sabaton History. About one of Their best song. Not about describing battles, or political view. This one is about of asking questions. And that's the best way to show the history of 20th century. Not to state some hard implemented visions, but to ask questions about them. At first, with this song, I was a bit outrageous with it, concernig My birth place (Poland). But then, I've started to ask Myself questions (and there was a lot o them), how does the Young Boys, Who serve their country, react by what they did, forced, or willingly... Back then, there was no "refuse to the order", it was just only "either make the order, or You will be shot..."...
This is hands down my favorite YT channel. Informative, Charismatic, there's tanks occasionally. Okay there's tanks more often than not, but you get what I'm saying.
From personal experience I can confirm that the topic of WW2 isn't handled all that well in Germany, which really is worrysome. It's far to common that he easiest way to silence a discussion by drawing an absolutely absurd comparison to the 3rd Reich, even though the topic at hand really hasn't to do with anything of that time. Anyway, I"m looking forward to your show in Leipzig this Thursday! See you there ImI_(^.^)_lml
Ive got different experience. i guess it depends on where you Life in Germany. Here it is not that strict. Even in School you get told what happened, but this depends sometimes on how the teacher itself thinks about it. And i never really experienced that someone tryed to silence you for talking about it.
@@superbrain3848 That's great, then. I also was thinking in a more "general public" way. I think as a people we have way to go to work up our history and move on, without punishing ourselves and at the same time doing everything from repeating our past mistakes. But I have the feeling this will never really happen.
Well we hardly can "punish" ourselves since the last few people, that really experienced the time first hand, are dying out, most of the time they were children back then. Adult people from back then are mostly dead or in their very last years of their lives. The vast majority of Germans today are born after the war, we hold no responsibility for the second world war or anything that was done by Germans back then. But we hold a responsibility to keep the memory, to not forget, to teach, what happened back then and why it is bad and should never be repeated. Asking these questions like, if the soldiers were mad men or young boys without a proper way, is good, because you then have to think about it, you have to think about humans in general. The only correct answer is, that their is no general answer. Just as in modern armies, where some soldiers commit warcrimes (and receive criminal charges and sentences for that, if a proper military jurisdiction and ethos exists), many others are normal guys who would condemn shooting civilians. It is the same back then and I'm thankful for Sabaton and Indy and their crew to analyze these questions, because of their music they get a vast reach to influence people in a positive way. Imho if you know, that e.g. your grand grandfather was a Wehrmacht soldier, but one of the "clean" ones, who didn't commit crimes, you don't need to feel offended, if someone talks about crimes, which the Wehrmacht was an accomplice of.
I really appreciate your encouragement of asking questions and rather not see history within a black and white / good and evil spectrum. As a german I can approve everything you've said ! Sadly nowadays our goverment shuts down any questions or criticism on their policies by reminding our people of ww2 and telling us that we would be nazis if we did not agree with them.
Really puts things into perspective. Those men made a choice but understanding how they made their choices is important. At the end of the day no one is truly above acting in the way the Wehrmacht did in 1939-45. This song and this history lesson by Indy inspired me to keep looking to find the answers as to why and it might sadly be an answer I may never find.
Germany used all in all around 2.8 million horses during the war. Given that Germany lacked fuel it wouldn’t have been able to motorize its entire army anyway, no matter how many trucks it could have produced.
@@thurin84 Nope, you need to say thank you to England since majority of US planes were flying from England to Germany to bomb German factories cause if Hitler finished England off to the point where England was force to surrender then means USA would have no ally in Western Europe which USA would have no locations to launch there planes from plus no Western Front opening.
I do not know where you get that from, but we talk about the war a lot in Germany and especially in history classes, primarily we talk about the atrocities, that were conducted by the Nazi regime. I think, that you could have mentioned as well, that there were huge amounts of war crimes committed by the Wehrmacht, you did mention that shortly, but I think you could have said more about it.
That is kinda expected. Poland suffered one of longest and most brutal ocupactions among all nazi-conquered contries. They may be a bit oversensitive about that topic, but, let's be honest, they have good reasons to be so ^^.
@@ComissarYarrick Most of the occupied nations are quite sensitive about it. I don't think I've ever met a wehraboo from any of the occupied nations of WW2, probably because people here have grand-parents who experienced it directly, and war stories don't die out quite as quickly. Also because peer-pressure is a strong force against defending the wehrmacht.
This song and video is so important for the dispelling of the Clean Wehremact myth. Thank you all for making it Love the multiple Fawlty Towers references too!
I found a Photo of my Great Grandfather with people on it, hung on a rope with the words below „So geht man mit Partisanen um“ In englisch „This is how to deal with Partisans“...
Really reflective and nice discussion at the end! Been listening to this band since I was 9 (so for almost 11 years now) and they just keep delivering consistent top quality content with a passion to match! Both musically and now on this channel! Signed up to your patreon today. Don't know why I didn't do it before, but hell, take my money! :D Wish I could give you more, you really deserve it for the great content! See you soon when you perform here in Sweden! :)
There are 3 things that I love. God. History and Music. I haven't heard all of your songs yet, just 3 so far, but I loved every one of them. Especiaqlly love that you are using your talent to remind us of the past.
Thank you for the episode. It was great. I think that an episode about "The Final Solution" would be too emotional. In my opinion, after this episode about the Wehrmacht there should be an episode about how US and German armies work together: Sabaton "The Last Battle". Wish you all the best!
This is defiantly one of my favorites from the Coat of Arms. Sadly because you guys are so awesome saying which song is my favorite is more down to what kind of day I'm having.
I live by the rule 'There are no stupid questions only stupid answers' and it's gotten me into some trouble but most of the time you get the right or correct answers
One more week before you guys rock in Antwerp. That intro alone made me rock. You guys have done one great song and the story behind it, I know of it. But you can never learn enough. And I knew about the Final Solution. But how you worked that out in the song is just awesome.
This is the best band I have ever listened to and I love the music even more because they question about events and how people got to the point they did.
Questions are always important. However, careful deliberation and reasoned debate is paramount before even attempting an answer. Questions are often even more valuable as instigators of thought and consideration than they are as mere inquiries.
An amazing tale! this channel is so good, and what sabaton can do with a song..... it’s mind blowing. To some, the haters, there’s too much truth and self reflection in 5 minutes or less of song? Lol amazing work guys!
Hello dear friend, this is easily one of your best episodes. This is such a powerful song and shows the utter power and heartbreak of the war. The men of the army, eroded into killers by a toxic and vile ideology. Thank you for covering such a difficult topic.
Hey, long time no see! Haven't been doing as many Sabaton History comments lately! Come over to TimeGhost History or World War Two, i'll still be there!
I have a question for you, my distant kinsman. It's hard to get a feel for how the Deutsche view the Bundeswehr. I was an American soldier and all my friends and family who have been in Deutschland, either stationed or visiting, have only had good things to say about our brothers in arms. Given how the US Army is having trouble meeting recruiting numbers because 20 years of pointless wars, I wonder how our allues are holding up?
@Sabaton I just watched the movie 1917 and thought: any Sabaton history of Wehrmacht? I like that song. Well guess what popped up in notifications, this. Thank you Sabaton! Ur songs gave me insight in WW1 and WW2
I loved this episode. With WW2 being 80 years ago, its all too easy to call the Axis evil without understanding the cultural context of the time period and consequently failing to see how history can repeat itself. All of us have the potential to be in the same position as the Wehrmacht without knowing it if we dont ever question what happened and why people bowed to such cruelty.
As a fellow lover of history I love these little insights into my favorite songs and some of the lesser known ones as well. Please come back to Portland, OR in 2020! 🤘🏼
I as a Polish person, who's family was greatly affected by the War agree that in fact there was many good people in the Wehrmacht, the common solider simply didn't know that these things were happening on the scale they were happening, and they may not agree with them but they are fighting for their country in their eyes and they can't do much about it.I think those men should be remebered and you should draw a line between the individual and the group, otherwise you can say that for literally ANY country/group Keep doing what your doing and telling these almost forgotten tales.
There is no one that can claim that he really loves history, while finding a topic of discussion controversial. History is history. It is written, it has been done and there is nothing controveraial about a discussion over any matter. Especially when it is done without bias and national ideals. I'm happy that there are people like Indy battling for historical knowledge as well as bands like sabaton. The world needs history more than we think.
Honestly i think that the generalization is the death of the information, it's obvious that u can't take a macroargument and simply say:" HEY THEY WERE ALL EVIL NAZI GUYS". It's impossible to think something like that and if u wanna treat this kind of argument u have to do that with a very deep consciousness of the tematic. Now i wanna say that u guys ( Indy, Joke and the Sabaton group) are treating such arguments carefully and with great respect and culture ! So keep going guys ! Greetings from Naples
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Can you make a video/song about Admiral Wilhelm Canaris? He was the chief of the Abwehr but executed by the Nazis because he strengthened military resistance in the Wehrmacht and once planned a coup against the government which didn't happen because he hadn't enough soldiers. He is a controversial person, in his position he of course was supporting the regime and he was an anti-Semite, but he positioned against the Holocaust.
The Soviet Onion...
So many layers of defense that even hitler cried trying to cut into it
That's...pretty funny thank you.
This made my day, thank you.
Finally a ww2 joke I've never heard before. You made my day, thank you!
Ok, I just love this. 😀
Shrek was the true hero of the ussr
Most bands: try to bury their more controversial songs in the hopes that other, more popular songs will take attention away from them
Sabaton: "Let's write songs about World War II. From the perspective of the Germans. And question the narrative that all Germans in the time of the war were inherently evil. And also open every concert with a song about the Blitzkrieg."
Speaking of which, if the video for Ghost Division does not open with "ALRIGHT SABATON HISTORY! WE ARE SABATON, WE PLAY HEAVY METAL, AND THIS IS GHOST DIVISION!" I might close the video... Probably come back later though
That's a solid opening!
Yes please, that intro would be perfect.
YES
I'm going to watch some Sabaton . . you bitchs triggered me
YES PLEASE
As a German and former member of the German Armed Forces - I agree. Asking those questions IS absolutely right and should be done. There was a lot of grey between black and white back then. I love the song - it's one of my most favorite songs by Sabaton!
Thanks for your service! -From an American
Thank you for your position! - From a Russian Military Historian
I too, think we should always be able to ask questions but given that one is not only responsible for the actions one takes but also the actions one chooses to not take, even grey is just another shade of black. Everybody who turnd there face away and did not partook in the resistance is guilty to some extend. Sure, there are several several level of guilt but never the less its guilt.
In my opinion there is no such thing as an inocent Wehrmacht soldier, who just carried out orders cause he could always have choosen to disobay the orders. And yes I know that this was extremly dangerous at the time but a true pacifist is someone who lets himself get shoot to prove that the other one was the aggressor.
- a fellow German
Thank you for your service man, I am glad that America and Germany are great allies now.
My Great Grandfather was a foot soldier and My Great Uncle was a StuG operator, both served in the Wehrmacht on the Easternfront. I ask my family and always want to ask questions but the knowledge was lost when closer relatives passed on. Thank you for your service, comming from the USA.
I’ve always been interested in the Axis perspective of the war. So, I really appreciate songs like this, Ghost Division, and Hearts of Iron.
Speaking of which, one of those is definitely missing an episode..
Ohh, you're right, I somehow remembered that Ghost divison already had an episode too, but now I realized it hasn't yet. Maybe in the 1 year anniversary episode...
Aye
Song about japanese war in china, or in asian islands would be nice to hear
@@psznaherbatka15 aue
@@psznaherbatka15 would love a song about Iwo Jima, Leyte or even Okinawa
Well, if you guys cared too much about what offends whom, half of your songs wouldn't exist. I think you're doing it right. Those questions have to be asked, and discussions have to be made about controversial topics too. It's never easy to judge such situations, where the circumstances are shaping people into something immoral but meanwhile people are shaping the circumstances too. It's quite the same with poverty and crime related to poverty for example.
Oh, and soon it'll be the 1st of the month so you'll get the money from me. 😀
Preach!
Its important not only just for the sake of understanding the topic so we have a clear view of history, but also to fulfill the age old adage of "those who do not look at history are doomed to repeat it". I think its very important to look and ask why the people, leaders, soldiers, etc of Germany did what they did. Just labeling them as evil doesn't solve anything, but also just excusing them does just as much harm (perhaps a little more). But looking at just the little details that Indy brought forward paints a far more grey moral area of the conflict and we see the process laid out before us.
I think it's less important to judge those involved as good or evil, but understand that the outcome that ended up happening was undesirable and see how we can avoid an event like that in the future. I feel too many people gwt caught up on the idea that these are evil men doing things rather just understanding that humans are prone to these mistakes, and it's NEVER as simple as just someone being evil because they just are.
@@PANCAKEMINEZZ Here, here.
Yeah if you always worry about offending someone. All it will lead to is censorship and lowering standards to the most easily offended group. Since it super easy to say i find x offesive or claim x is offensive on behalf of y. That and normally it's only a handful of people who feel this way and not the majority. If they are not just flat out lying to try and control people.
Since i could say i am offended by history right now, i don't mean it at all but i could simply say it. That and being offended by something is emotional, so might not be the best thing to allow yourself to be controlled by or base your reactions on. Since pure raw emotion, tends to lack logically thinking behind it and tends to be very short term thinking, that can often lead to bad things down the road due to lack of foreslight that more logical thinking would give you.
@@xyzzyx348 We don't take too kindly to anti-semitism here.
I don't think he did anything different.... but I felt Indy's narration was really powerful in this episode! Really amazing episode! ❤❤
Same with his between 2 wars episode about Berlin Olympics.
Agreed!
Despite how wrong it is.
This video is filled with so many wehraboo tropes and falsehoods. It's also pushing a very misleading narrative of the "clean wehrmacht". This episode is really subpar to anything that they have produced earlier.
@@heno02 exactly my concerns, thank you.
This is by far the most nuanced history lesson ever and I'm so amazed that this won't be taken down by regressive idealogues.
Just goes to show that the loudest ones are usually the ones with the smallest numbers. Well, that and the fear of the righteous wrath of Sabaton fans when a very valuable history video is unjustly removed due to 'reasons'.
I can recommend Indy's 'TimeGhost History' channel for a very nuanced breakdown of the Interwar Era.
@@SabatonHistory Seconded. Indy and Time Ghost have tons of superb content. Unfortunately, this has not escaped the attention of our Benevolent Overlords, and many of their videos have been censored due to aforementioned ‘reasons’. I think their entire channel has been demonetized at least a couple times. All the more reason to support them.
As a retired college history instructor, I know the hard questions are the important ones. The questions that challenge you beliefs and understanding. If you can't do a good job of arguing for a position that you are against, you really don't know the position that you are for. If we fail to ask the hard questions about the past, both personal and historic, we are doomed, if not to fail, at least not be as successful as we could be. I wish you had been around back when I was teaching. The things I could have done with your music in the classroom, but such is life.
+1 Respect
Wow....said better than I could ever dream to attempt. 👍🏻
@@Error_404_Account_Deleted It only took me 71 years, 47 of them as a teacher, to think about them. ;-) Thanks.
I'd argue that people aren't so much afraid to ask the questions, but rather are afraid of the repurcussions of asking them. Folks are very heavily opinionated nowadays, and the idea of being ostracized for simply asking a question can be mighty intimidating.
@@lilwyvern4 This is were I have an extreme problem. I'm an introvert, who started life on a cattle ranch with no children my age around. I never belonged to or wanted to belong to a group. Because of that, I couldn't teach my students (or sons) about peer pressure even after I finally believed that it was a real thing.
Thank you for this episode, and even more for the song itself. Not so much for the actual music (it is still easily in the upper half of all Sabaton song), but I find it incredibly brave (and necessary) to release something like this. I don't know about other countries, but here in Austria as an Austrian, you could not ask those questions. If you ask someone on the right, you are an enemy of the state, because "the Wehrmacht did nothing wrong and were just soldiers", and if you ask someone on the left, you are already branded as at least close to the Nazis, because everyone who didn't actively plot to kill Hitler is a monster.
My take on the whole thing: Anybody who answers those questions for the entire Wehrmacht in an absolute manner, has a dangerous ideological agenda. In reality, there was most likely everything from really good soldiers that simply didn't see an opportunity to stop the madness to actual monsters in human form.
That's what I like about my history teacher. He tries to make us think ourselfs and not just think that what is given in some textbook is always true.
Well but depends on the people you're asking, not all people root you close to a certain ideology, just because you ask questions.
Of cause, if you repeatedly ask modern left extremists or neo nazis these questions, these answers are clear, but normal thinking people imho wouldn't root you near any ideology for asking these questions.
Depends on *how* you ask the questions as well^^
It's like that here where I live in the United states pretty much but I know a few people I could talk to about controversial stuff openly with and we can just discuss it
There was this podcast I listened to that looked at the My Lai massacre which was the slaughter of unarmed South Vietnamese citizens by US troops. It analyzed how it occurred and was very fascinating if you want I can find it?
Ps: My girlfriend and I visited Innsbruck over the holidays and had a blast!
Still waiting patiently for The Price of a Mile...
That is my favorite song. They should have remastered it for the great war album.
Yes...I want to know it. How much is that mile, Joakim?!
@@thecommissarshatisonfirege4193 I think it's worth thousands of feet
That was the first Sabaton song I heard, and as such it will always have a special place in heart
@@halo3pro584 at least...
"Don't fear answers only fear running out of questions" don't stop asking difficult questions that's how we learn and to ensure that such atrocities don't occur again
Thanks guys for another great video further enhancing my curiosity about this era
Indeed. An ever increasingly relevant sentiment of late, it seems.
I shall give all my money to Joakim now.
The man is powerful, can't deny that. I became a Patron right after watching this video 😅
Money money give me all your money. I laughed so hard
Is it in yet?
@@SabatonHistory I love it, y'all came back later to ask about the money :D
Oh boy, the comments section is gonna be lit once this gets released
Well, according to my experience, people who watch Sabaton history (and WW2 channel) are usually able for intelligent debate. This is why I usually read the comments only under these two channels' videos on whole UA-cam.
Just like Poland in 1939 LMAO
If UA-cam doesn't just delete it..
It’s gonna be full of wehraboos
@@sovietapples6122 when they make a video about the final solution is gonna be a party
17:43 Joakim: "I am once again asking for your financial support"
Hey, I get that reference!
Nice meme son.
The "PANZERS ON A LINE" verse is my favorite piece of metal
Lowkey my favourite Sabaton song. The chorus is god like, the beat is amazing, and the Latin adds so much.
“Crazy madmen on a leash or young men who lost their way...” amazing.
AD VICTORIUM!
@@Waddedupnapkin EX MACHINA!
@Niklas Ritz NON SIBI DED PATRIAE!
Thank you guys so much for *not* being afraid of controversy and of hard questions. Especially in today's world where so many are being told they're not allowed to contribute to the discourse for having different views, it's really great to see guys who not just claim to be willing to ask the hard questions, but also to back that claim up.
Sabaton doesn't just have great music, but deserves a ton of respect. You guys are awesome!
I did notice however, that he said "keep your opinion to yourself, " .... so much for open discussion
Sabaton: *makes Sabaton history about the Wehrmacht
Literally every Wehraboo: *Allow us to introduce ourselves*
don't forget the wehraboos who'll make up fantasy stories that the wehrmacht was "clean" and Rommel wasn't as guilty as the nazi leadership.
@@GorrilazWarfare i am a bit of a wheraboo but i won.t say stuff like that.
@Tranhoang Long You'd be surprised how many wehraboos believe the wehrmacht was clean and rommel as welll. Obviously not both of you but I meet too many that believe in the myth of the clean wehrmacht.
@@GorrilazWarfare I'm not a Wehraboo. Yet, in every army there were good men. Not all Germans were monsters and not all Americans were saints. Simple as that. And Rommel knew about Operation Valküre, he isn't as guilty as the nazi leadership was because he literally knew about an assasination attempt on Hitler and didn't do anything about it.
@@Schneter What you are talking about is a common myth(s) created after the nazi regime by Franz Halder in his "Generals' Memorandum" which re-wrote history to make the nazi army look innocent or at least apolitical. The myth of the clean wehrmacht and myth of Rommel were created so that the allies could ignore the reality that the nazi army and the leadership wanted to exterminate Slavs and others and made them "not nazis" so they could quickly re-assemble a new German army to oppose Stalin.
You can read it all here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_clean_Wehrmacht#Start_of_the_myth
and here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rommel_myth
and also here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism_and_the_Wehrmacht
"On August 22, 1939, in a conference between Hitler and all of the Reich's senior military leaders, Hitler stated quite explicitly that the coming war against Poland was to be a "war of extermination" in which Hitler expressed his intention to "...to kill without pity or mercy all men, women and children of the Polish race or language".[46] The British historian Sir John Wheeler-Bennett wrote that whatever doubts the Wehrmacht might still have had about the sort of regime that they were about to go to war for and the kind of people that they would be fighting for in this war, should have been clearly dispelled by Hitler's genocidal comments during the conference of August 22, 1939, and that the claims made after the war that the Wehrmacht simply did not understand the nature of the regime that they fought for, are not believable.[46] Anti-Semitic and anti-Polish attitudes like the views expressed above coloured all the instructions that came to Wehrmacht during the summer of 1939 as part of the preparations for the invasion of Poland.[45]
The war against the Soviet Union was presented as a war of extermination right from the start. On March 3, 1941, Hitler summoned the entire military leadership to hear a secret speech about the upcoming Operation Barbarossa in which Hitler stressed that Barbarossa was to be a "war of extermination", that the German military was to disregard all the laws of war, and that he both expected and wanted to see the deaths of millions of people.[47] With the exception of Admiral Wilhelm Canaris, who protested that this was both morally and legally wrong, none of the officers who heard Hitler's speech voiced any objections.[47]"
Of all the amazing things this channel has shared, Joakim making a Faulty Towers reference takes the cake. He is truly a man of culture
Ah, man, I missed that! I will have to go back and listen again.
8:25 That reminds of something that Hitler said to his generals before the invasion of Poland:“Our strength consists in our speed and in our brutality. Genghis Khan led millions of women and children to slaughter - with premeditation and a happy heart. History sees in him solely the founder of a state. It’s a matter of indifference to me what a weak western European civilization will say about me. I have issued the command - and I’ll have anybody who utters but one word of criticism executed by a firing squad - that our war aim does not consist in reaching certain lines, but in the physical destruction of the enemy. Accordingly, I have placed my death-head formation in readiness - for the present only in the East - with orders to them to send to death mercilessly and without compassion, men, women, and children of Polish derivation and language. Only thus shall we gain the living space (Lebensraum) which we need. Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?”
It is truly fascinating how Hitler and other despots saw themselves. It helps one to understand, how and why things happend.
The worst part about this is that he isn’t particularly wrong.
@@Thatonedude227 I would rather say he bend the truth to an extent, so it fitted his worldview.
@gillecroisd 92 That is brilliant. People who spend their time to truly understand and take a closer look, or better check everything they can find out are rare. Thanks for your participation in historical research.
@gillecroisd 92 Almost, but USSR never had racist propaganda and never officially declaired genocide against Germans as state ideology. At least one difference already exist. Also, USSR in 1941 wasn't antisemitic, it was a state of winned Jewish nazism against Russians and other local nations.
My uncle's family were hardcore Nazis (he was born in the mid 50s) and his mother had an enshrined portrait of Hitler. He ran away from home to join the Bundeswehr, but just from his story, you can see that even within immediate family you can find dramatic differences in opinion, much less an organization that ranged into the multiple millions.
I wish the US military from Operation Iraqi Freedom (2003, Panzer Battalion song) went back in time and crushed the Axis Powers in 1935!
Sorry if I shouldn’t but judging by your surname I’m guessing your family is Chinese as well?
Given the help that that China was helped by the Reichswehr and Wehrmacht in the form of training and material, I’m not surprised. That, and the fact that the Nazis fought the Soviets as well as the lack of any education on Nazi atrocities in Asia has many people in Asia still admiring or downright support Nazis. I have friends from Indonesia who told me that if you wave a flag of the Imperial Japanese rising sun or the hammer and sickle, people will beat you up. But if you wave a flag of the Nazi swastika there, people might even pat you on the back.
@@HaloFTW55
Didn't Siam/Thailand support the Axis Powers during WW2?
@@HaloFTW55 War, the world, and people are weird.
@@christiandauz3742 The US military learned a lot of tactical and strategic lessons from their former German enemies.
I already give you my money, and you absolutely earn that. See you in few hours!
Thank you! :)
Controversy aside, I like the song for that "mechanized" feeling it has as Joakim says.
"It's good to ask questions, but be very very very FUCKING careful what you call facts." Words to live by.
"Never be afraid to ask questions" So fkn true.
I'm going to college to become a history teacher and can't wait till I get to play your vids for my students and also introduce them to some quality music
You are a wise man
Cheers! Good luck! Check out Indy's other channels as well! (ua-cam.com/users/worldwartwo and ua-cam.com/users/timeghosthistory)
I had goosebumps when Indy quoted the song.
In general i like when the lyrics got explenations and or mentioned.
I totally agree with Joakim about that we have to have discussions about theese topics too... they might not be comfortable but if you don't talk about them that's worse
Demonetized in 1...2...3...
One of the best parts of Sabaton History. About one of Their best song. Not about describing battles, or political view. This one is about of asking questions. And that's the best way to show the history of 20th century. Not to state some hard implemented visions, but to ask questions about them. At first, with this song, I was a bit outrageous with it, concernig My birth place (Poland). But then, I've started to ask Myself questions (and there was a lot o them), how does the Young Boys, Who serve their country, react by what they did, forced, or willingly... Back then, there was no "refuse to the order", it was just only "either make the order, or You will be shot..."...
I can't believe this crossover. This is absolutely brilliant.
This is hands down my favorite YT channel. Informative, Charismatic, there's tanks occasionally.
Okay there's tanks more often than not, but you get what I'm saying.
Hearing Joakim swear is so satisfying because you hardly ever hear it
Joakim: *Asks for money*
Me, Who just went to Wembley to see Sabaton (08.02.20): Bruh
From personal experience I can confirm that the topic of WW2 isn't handled all that well in Germany, which really is worrysome. It's far to common that he easiest way to silence a discussion by drawing an absolutely absurd comparison to the 3rd Reich, even though the topic at hand really hasn't to do with anything of that time.
Anyway, I"m looking forward to your show in Leipzig this Thursday! See you there ImI_(^.^)_lml
Ive got different experience. i guess it depends on where you Life in Germany. Here it is not that strict. Even in School you get told what happened, but this depends sometimes on how the teacher itself thinks about it. And i never really experienced that someone tryed to silence you for talking about it.
@@superbrain3848 That's great, then. I also was thinking in a more "general public" way. I think as a people we have way to go to work up our history and move on, without punishing ourselves and at the same time doing everything from repeating our past mistakes. But I have the feeling this will never really happen.
Well we hardly can "punish" ourselves since the last few people, that really experienced the time first hand, are dying out, most of the time they were children back then.
Adult people from back then are mostly dead or in their very last years of their lives.
The vast majority of Germans today are born after the war, we hold no responsibility for the second world war or anything that was done by Germans back then.
But we hold a responsibility to keep the memory, to not forget, to teach, what happened back then and why it is bad and should never be repeated.
Asking these questions like, if the soldiers were mad men or young boys without a proper way, is good, because you then have to think about it, you have to think about humans in general.
The only correct answer is, that their is no general answer.
Just as in modern armies, where some soldiers commit warcrimes (and receive criminal charges and sentences for that, if a proper military jurisdiction and ethos exists), many others are normal guys who would condemn shooting civilians.
It is the same back then and I'm thankful for Sabaton and Indy and their crew to analyze these questions, because of their music they get a vast reach to influence people in a positive way.
Imho if you know, that e.g. your grand grandfather was a Wehrmacht soldier, but one of the "clean" ones, who didn't commit crimes, you don't need to feel offended, if someone talks about crimes, which the Wehrmacht was an accomplice of.
@@MagiconIce We all, not just germans, also have a responsibility to make sure that it never happens again.
@@lavrentivs9891 Of cause, but we Germans especially, because some of our ancestors did commit these horrible crimes.
I really appreciate your encouragement of asking questions and rather not see history within a black and white / good and evil spectrum. As a german I can approve everything you've said !
Sadly nowadays our goverment shuts down any questions or criticism on their policies by reminding our people of ww2 and telling us that we would be nazis if we did not agree with them.
Really puts things into perspective. Those men made a choice but understanding how they made their choices is important. At the end of the day no one is truly above acting in the way the Wehrmacht did in 1939-45. This song and this history lesson by Indy inspired me to keep looking to find the answers as to why and it might sadly be an answer I may never find.
Still find it interesting that only a small portion of the Heer was actually motorized and they were still heavily dependent on horses.
the german army of 1944 used more horses then the german army of 1940 (thank you USAAF).
Germany used all in all around 2.8 million horses during the war.
Given that Germany lacked fuel it wouldn’t have been able to motorize its entire army anyway, no matter how many trucks it could have produced.
Germany took Britain's advice of "not enough horses" from WW1 to heart in WW2.
@@thurin84 Nope, you need to say thank you to England since majority of US planes were flying from England to Germany to bomb German factories cause if Hitler finished England off to the point where England was force to surrender then means USA would have no ally in Western Europe which USA would have no locations to launch there planes from plus no Western Front opening.
@@joeyreidelbach5509 sounds like i hit a nerve...........
Respect for shoutouting warhead.su!
17:00 I remember googling this a year or so back :D
I do not know where you get that from, but we talk about the war a lot in Germany and especially in history classes, primarily we talk about the atrocities, that were conducted by the Nazi regime. I think, that you could have mentioned as well, that there were huge amounts of war crimes committed by the Wehrmacht, you did mention that shortly, but I think you could have said more about it.
Was Awesome seeing you in Berlin! Thanks for the Great Show. Keep up the Good Work.
Thursdays since the launch of this channel have been my favorite day of the week.
Sabaton: *makes a song about the Wehrmacht*
Polish journal: *why would Sabaton do this?*
That is kinda expected. Poland suffered one of longest and most brutal ocupactions among all nazi-conquered contries. They may be a bit oversensitive about that topic, but, let's be honest, they have good reasons to be so ^^.
@@ComissarYarrick Most of the occupied nations are quite sensitive about it.
I don't think I've ever met a wehraboo from any of the occupied nations of WW2, probably because people here have grand-parents who experienced it directly, and war stories don't die out quite as quickly.
Also because peer-pressure is a strong force against defending the wehrmacht.
This song and video is so important for the dispelling of the Clean Wehremact myth. Thank you all for making it
Love the multiple Fawlty Towers references too!
Truth is almost always a muddy gray, just like Wehrmacht uniforms.
14:17 & 14:29 Joakim referencing Fawlty Towers! Brilliant! 😂😂
I was looking at the comments for this comment. :D
Looks like this reference goes over the head of most watchers of this channel.
I found a Photo of my Great Grandfather with people on it, hung on a rope with the words below
„So geht man mit Partisanen um“
In englisch
„This is how to deal with Partisans“...
@Opecuted those days german electricans were like that so there is a chance
"Only the Sith think in absolutes," --- Some dude from a time long, long ago, and a place far, far away ;)
shouldnt it have been "mostly only the sith speak in absolutes"?
@@thurin84 Yeah, the original quote was ironically quite absolutist.
Nobody:
Indy: Hoobris
This has grown to be my favourite song over the last month. The heaviness and the lyrics are so impactful.
Really reflective and nice discussion at the end! Been listening to this band since I was 9 (so for almost 11 years now) and they just keep delivering consistent top quality content with a passion to match! Both musically and now on this channel! Signed up to your patreon today. Don't know why I didn't do it before, but hell, take my money! :D Wish I could give you more, you really deserve it for the great content! See you soon when you perform here in Sweden! :)
Long time waiting for this video! Thanks Indy and Sabaton!
Wehrmacht was the 5th ever Sabaton song I heard. Still fucking love it and it's perfect for gaming
Well, interesting. Thank you, sincerely.
There are 3 things that I love. God. History and Music. I haven't heard all of your songs yet, just 3 so far, but I loved every one of them. Especiaqlly love that you are using your talent to remind us of the past.
Thank you for the episode. It was great. I think that an episode about "The Final Solution" would be too emotional. In my opinion, after this episode about the Wehrmacht there should be an episode about how US and German armies work together: Sabaton "The Last Battle".
Wish you all the best!
Damn, I am earlier that the 7th Panzer Division.
No you are not, they just don´ t have time to stop and comment
SABATON ROCKS! Shared!
GOOD HISTORY LESSON! THANKS!
I’ve been listening to this exact song a lot recently and I was really hoping the next video would be on this song, you guys rock!
That was some brave shit right there. The song also goes hard and it threw me off which is great
Always great to have a new Sabaton History upload while getting ready for a hard day of work.
I love the faulty towers reference" dont mention the war"
This is defiantly one of my favorites from the Coat of Arms. Sadly because you guys are so awesome saying which song is my favorite is more down to what kind of day I'm having.
I live by the rule 'There are no stupid questions only stupid answers' and it's gotten me into some trouble but most of the time you get the right or correct answers
One more week before you guys rock in Antwerp. That intro alone made me rock. You guys have done one great song and the story behind it, I know of it. But you can never learn enough. And I knew about the Final Solution. But how you worked that out in the song is just awesome.
Amazing documentary. Thank you guys so much for this!
This is the best band I have ever listened to and I love the music even more because they question about events and how people got to the point they did.
Questions are always important. However, careful deliberation and reasoned debate is paramount before even attempting an answer. Questions are often even more valuable as instigators of thought and consideration than they are as mere inquiries.
Loved your Show in Stuttgart 😍🤘🏽 Come here again 😄
An amazing tale! this channel is so good, and what sabaton can do with a song..... it’s mind blowing. To some, the haters, there’s too much truth and self reflection in 5 minutes or less of song? Lol amazing work guys!
0:16 Your german is pretty good.
I mean somehow the swedish are germanics, too😅
It’s from all that beer
@@clumsycommissar5260 wie sagte er so schön in Berlin letztes Wochenende: "Nicht noch ein Bier... Noch 5 Bier!"😂😂
What did he say?
@@dacevedo4617 But Wehrmacht not
Lol that outro was hilarious. Patreon takes our money on the first of the month. But if i could i would give more :-) 🤘🤘🤘❤❤❤
Thank you for your support! :)
@@SabatonHistory Varsågod Sabaton History :-)
Tak!
That is the best outro I've seen. I have to give these amazing people money now when I get a chance.
My favourite song of sabaton, yes!
Great episode!
I love your channel keep up the great stuff
This song has the sickest riff out of all Sabaton songs in my opinion.
Epic, isn't it?
@@SabatonHistory much so.
Hello dear friend, this is easily one of your best episodes. This is such a powerful song and shows the utter power and heartbreak of the war. The men of the army, eroded into killers by a toxic and vile ideology. Thank you for covering such a difficult topic.
Hey, long time no see! Haven't been doing as many Sabaton History comments lately! Come over to TimeGhost History or World War Two, i'll still be there!
Props from Germany! 👍 This video was more impartial and objective then any documentary by the german public broadcasting.
I have a question for you, my distant kinsman. It's hard to get a feel for how the Deutsche view the Bundeswehr. I was an American soldier and all my friends and family who have been in Deutschland, either stationed or visiting, have only had good things to say about our brothers in arms. Given how the US Army is having trouble meeting recruiting numbers because 20 years of pointless wars, I wonder how our allues are holding up?
@Sabaton I just watched the movie 1917 and thought: any Sabaton history of Wehrmacht? I like that song.
Well guess what popped up in notifications, this.
Thank you Sabaton!
Ur songs gave me insight in WW1 and WW2
Wehrmacht was 1935 onwards - In WW1 it was just imperial german army
I know, but still thanks
I loved this episode. With WW2 being 80 years ago, its all too easy to call the Axis evil without understanding the cultural context of the time period and consequently failing to see how history can repeat itself. All of us have the potential to be in the same position as the Wehrmacht without knowing it if we dont ever question what happened and why people bowed to such cruelty.
Another one of those kickass songs you want to sing under your breath all the time but maybe shouldn't in public.
As a fellow lover of history I love these little insights into my favorite songs and some of the lesser known ones as well. Please come back to Portland, OR in 2020! 🤘🏼
I as a Polish person, who's family was greatly affected by the War agree that in fact there was many good people in the Wehrmacht, the common solider simply didn't know that these things were happening on the scale they were happening, and they may not agree with them but they are fighting for their country in their eyes and they can't do much about it.I think those men should be remebered and you should draw a line between the individual and the group, otherwise you can say that for literally ANY country/group
Keep doing what your doing and telling these almost forgotten tales.
Don't fear question with out answers, fear has answers which cannot be questioned.
One of my favorite underrated songs.
It's almost a year, where is the " I am Indy Neidell, this Joakim from Sabaton, and this is video about SWEDISH PAGANS!" ? !!
Getting there
i love that analogy, as unstoppable and merciless as tidal waves
Love the Fawlty Towers reference from Joakim, don't think Indy noticed it!!!
Happy birthday, Sabaton History!
I don't think I have ever been this early to a Sabaton History episode before.
That outro tho :-D Joakim lost any sort of shame there love it!
Finally a fair summary about the Wehrmacht thank you
There is no one that can claim that he really loves history, while finding a topic of discussion controversial. History is history. It is written, it has been done and there is nothing controveraial about a discussion over any matter. Especially when it is done without bias and national ideals. I'm happy that there are people like Indy battling for historical knowledge as well as bands like sabaton. The world needs history more than we think.
aa ya nice timing i just got back from work and what do i see it's a New Sabaton history video
Great episode, i'm excited to see you guys in Oberhausen \m/
Honestly i think that the generalization is the death of the information, it's obvious that u can't take a macroargument and simply say:" HEY THEY WERE ALL EVIL NAZI GUYS". It's impossible to think something like that and if u wanna treat this kind of argument u have to do that with a very deep consciousness of the tematic. Now i wanna say that u guys ( Indy, Joke and the Sabaton group) are treating such arguments carefully and with great respect and culture ! So keep going guys ! Greetings from Naples
Speaking of, I am kinda looking forward to if/when you cover Final Solution. It will be an intense episode.
Prepping my tissue boxes now!
The Battles fought in the comments section will be an absolute great time.
We'll do that eventually - not looking forward to it though. It will be rough to write that.
@@SabatonHistory Heart-wrenching to research, I'm sure. Heck, the song itself is enough to make one cry.
To quote another great Swedish band:
"Money, money, money
Must be funny
In the rich man's world
Money, money, money
Always sunny
In the rich man's world
Aha aha
All the things I could do
If I had a little money
It's a rich man's world
It's a rich man's world"
I actually like this, learning more about the Germans POV, I wish more forms of media did this, instead of just "all Germans bad, all allies good"
Indy looks different in this episode (in a good way). Great job as usual, guys.