Kings and Generals thanks guys, you know I love my Alexander. He’s one of the very few generals in history to have accomplished so much in so little time. Literally every area he conquered would forever be changed
We know the names of Roman armies ,Legio 1 something...and etc,what do we know about the Greek armies ,did they call their phalanxes something particularly?
each of Alexander's phalanxes were regionally-based. For instance, there was a Macedonian phalanx from the region of Lyncestis, so that battalion was likely called the Lyncestian battalion or something similar. There was a similar naming division with Pyrrhus' army where his Epirote phalanx battalions were divided between the various Epirote tribes (for instance there was a Molossian, Thesprotian and Chaonian phalanx). We also have references in later hellenistic armies to specific phalanx units being distinguishable from the colour of their shields. There was for instance a bronze shield phalanx, a white shield phalanx, and perhaps most famously (and some might say notoriously), the silver shields.
The Germans had winter equipment. They just couldn't transport it to the troops at the front because food and ammunition were considered more important and the available transportation entirely insufficient to move all the needed supplies through Russia. Before the start of the campaign, the German quartermaster general explicity said that the invasion could be supplied for about 500 km before transportation collapses. It was considered unimportant and then played out exactly as predicted.
Fun fact: Alexander the Great had thousands of Kings and Generals T-shirts which he would award to soldiers who served exceptionally well during his conquests of Persia
In China, we learned more about Pythagoras, Euclid, Archimedes, Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Homer, and Sophocles in high-school textbooks. Greek Mathematicians, Philosophers, and Authors were truly great. Still, Alexander was the crucial one responsible for spreading that culture. (Later we had diplomatic relations with Greko-Bactrian kingdoms in Han dynasty. )
Aristotle was his teacher recommend of his father but Platon had some problems as beeing half greek. Jewish refused him as a apostle, because of their hate against macedonian tradesmen which made them competition. Platon was replaced with Paul. But christians monasteries from Romania considers him as apostle.
Fun Facts. Did the Macedonian logistical reforms influence Marius? Later, with the Marian Reforms at the beginning of the first century BC, the Romans would adopt a similar logistical system to Philip in their own army (reduced size of baggage train, made the soldiers carry their own kit) and the legionaries thus gained the nickname Marius’ mules. Could Philip's reforms have been the inspiration for Marius? Macedonian roads: uniting the empire. One other area that truly epitomised Alexander's logistical brilliance was his road building. Among his army were specialised surveyors and teams of road constructors - mainly from his light infantry. We hear Alexander tasked these men with clearing obstacles and constructing roads to aid his army through difficult terrain. Yet Alexander evidently intended these roads to have a much longer lasting impact. Once finished, they not only aided the speed of Alexander’s march but they also greatly increased communication and feasibility of overland travel throughout his spear-won territory - most notably to his new cities spread throughout Asia. Supply depots were likely also constructed along these new roads. All this both provided and secured lines of supply and communication for the Macedonian army when on campaign throughout his empire. Alexander had intended for instance, to build a coastal road with intermittent ports stretching from Egypt to the Straits of Gibraltar to supply his future campaign in the west. Yet his untimely death at Babylon in 323 BC, aged only 32, brought a swift end to these bold plans.
The speed of communication is crucial in any situation - especially in warfare. Telegraph, radios, walkie talkies, remote control, satellite, internet, networking...
It boggles my mind that any ancient army could be sustained for long on the march. The availability of water alone seems enormous... Like where the fuck are they getting so much water so quickly. Are they digging wells every ten miles or something haha! How the hell did 100k plus armies exist back before the train was invented! Just insane to me and wish I could go back in time to see... Always wondered what would have happened if someone invented the bicycle, gears, and most importantly a decent tire back 3,000 years ago... You'd have small lightning bike units shredding up the country side doing hit and run tactics. I'm sure some would train to use a polearm on a bike too! I mean the Companions could charge enemies without stirrups and stay on the horse while steering it without using their hands!
If you haven't read well known European historians and you only have read the Yugoslavians you have to start from point zero . Than you will understand not only 19-20 centuries but also medieval Bulgarian history and ancient history of Greece.I would repeat again for you. The problem is that the people ( Revolutionary's from 1903)- all of them proclaimed that they were Bulgarians from Macedonia.They themselves stated in letters and memories and still alive relatives that they were Bulgarians. So the point is that you can't change their identity postmortem like Tito did in 1945. Or you think that can do it? By the way what is your proof that your DNA and DNA of Alexander The Great same? Do you believe in this? If you really believe in this your country should never change the name under the Greeks demands. In case with Bulgaria all is clear. THE people declared that were Bulgarians lived not long time ago, how ever before Tito Yugoslavia 1945 .
In short, Alexander always grabbed the best option for his army, be it getting new troops, adopting new formations and adapting to suit tough conditions. Something tells me History would have been very different if he had alive for a decade longer. If this man had turned his attention to building a kingdom, I think he would have formed an empire that lasted centuries.
I'd forgotten to what extent Alexander owed his success to his father Philip, from whom he inherited the ancient world's #1 military machine. And I didn't know Philip had pioneered many aspects of Alexander's logistics. Great video.
@3:12 I didn't realize the Macedonians promoted this channel before it even existed. Perhaps the Oracle of Delphi had a vision of it she shared with Phillip II.
"The bull is crowned. All is done. The sacrificer is ready. Oh, and make a bunch of shirts with 'Kings and Generals' on them, they'll be important later."
The best part of this video is the upbeat, energetic, tense, dramatic music while explaining stuff like equipment carried by individual soldiers. Lol. Only Kings and Generals could pull that off and make it cool instead of corny! Very informative and entertaining video guys, especially the explanation of how Philip II abandoned ox carts in favor of horses and mules as his beasts of burden, with camels added later by Alexander III the Great. I didn't know about that! Thanks for that!
Yet another great video depicting ancient warfare logistics. I support you very much to continue a series like this where you will cover other factions as well like Roman, Persian and other.
This is still one of my favorite videos. I’d always struggled to get a handle on logistics, but this video gave me my first insights that really stuck.
The first time I asked K & G to make a video on it was more that half a year ago . And the latest was on the last video. But nevertheless he never assured me that this was certainly the case.
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“Move swift as the wind and closely-formed as the wood.Attack like the fire and be still as the mountain” “Be subtle!be subtle! and use your spies for every kind of business” Sun Tzu-The Art of War
I needed my fix today thanks kings 👍. During the Persian conquest, most cities that were liberated by Alexander gave up without a fight conserving his army for Gauglemela and many other major battles. And unlike many other generals, Alexander adopted military tactics and culture into his army making it majorly effective, he could see the future well beyond his time.
500 miles in 13 days with a 40kg pack is just INSANE to me. That's 60km a day. I remember walking with a 10kg pack over flat ground in Spain and barely being able to walk 40km each day. These phalangites were no joke.
It also pretty amazing that Alexander had learned such tactical brilliance especially on the battlefield. I mean during the battle of hydaspes, it was the first time that the Macedonian forces had fought elephants in significant numbers, and yet Alexander still led them to a pretty decisive victory against king Porus and his Indian forces. It really makes you think had Alexander lived longer, would he have returned to India and possibly even tried to take on the maurya empire? Or even the Zhou in China? With fresh forces I mean.
Loved this episode, few channels cover logistics and I hope its something you do for more periods and generals. Another thing I'd like to suggest is to add timestaps to the description of your season videos. I was enjoying your monghol season video (again for like the 3rd time) but I'd love to know exactly which episode I am watching. Watching these videos really is a treat, few people as much enjoyment for love and history (and you give us a bigger picture than extrahistory that gives a more personal take on history which I also love).
I understand Mongol also bring their livestock during their campaign just like a nomads, but Alexander are using "conventional supply lines" yet they managed to conquer known world.
Different armies mean different logistics, the mongol empire was one based on size and speed. Most Mongol territory was the open plains and areas where nomadic/horse travel was easier. Alexander's forces moved much slower, but did have more flexibility in terms of geographical dominance, hence why Alexander's army held territory in India that the mongols couldn't obtain in their own conquests.
The Macedonians held nothing. Alexander's Empire was held together by Syrian-Persian bureaucrats & periodic mass-murders that left half the cities in the Middle East in ruins, until the Parthians repaired them 200 years later. They held zero territory in India apart from one city-state that surrendered & another that didn't- both of which Alexander had to return back to their owners when his troops mutinied. As it is- there was no more an "Alexandrian" Empire than there was a Hunnic one. The only Greek Empires around the time were of the Diadochi who actually had a plan beyond "Murder everyone & claim to be King." It was good Alexander died when he did at the height of his Power, or he'd had been laughed at today.
I have Engel's book, and it is excellent. He has a formula for calculating food, water, fodder and how many pack animals are required for a given sized army. I have created an Excel spreadsheet for Classical war gaming. By playing around with the formula you can instantly see in Excel how changing the number of servants, how much grain the men carry, or other factors affect the speed and logistics of an army. Large armies were very slow and on the verge of starvation if they didn't keep constantly on the move to new areas for forage. The Perfect army seems to be 40-50,000 fighting men. Large enough to intimidate or win battles, small enough to still move fairly rapidly and still relatively easy to provision.
I bought the book "Alexander the Great and the Logistics of the Macedonian Army" by Donald W. Engels mentioned at 12:25 of this video is an informative and very readable book. I highly recommend it.
This is an episode I needed to see. I'm pooling what I know about Classical Era warfare (a lot of it learned from this channel and Wikipedia) into a board game.
@@janeza382 let's be honest here, I do not hate Makedonskis. What I do hate is what their country has done to its citizens. You can call Greeks whatever you like, at the end of the day The word Greek is in English only. Greece's official name is the Hellenic Republic. Our language and culture has been around for thousands of years. Makedonskis have been around for 100years. Before that your great Tetos and Babas self identified as Bulgarians. I am blessed to have learnt history of Europe and Americas (ancient and modern) in Australia. It is only in Fyro Macedonia that they teach otherwise.
Good video.whenever I thought about Alexander ,logistics and reccons never came to my mind. Now you tell me about these two aspects.thanks for this.Alexander is the greatest king and General of all time.
Didnt Mongols "life off the land", that is plunder civilian settlements nonstop? There is reason we never hear about glorious campaigns of Mongols in Mongolia.
@@OkurkaBinLadin they "lived" in their 10 men squads and would forage the land to restock their supplies, a feat not many armies are really capable of, since this requires quite a lot of mobility which the Mongolian Horsemen of course possessed
1:10 Fun fact: in world war 2, US side, for every soldier on the battlefield, there were 17 people behind the front lines supporting him! (Intel, logistics, supplies, etc.)
I have Engels Book, and it is excellent. The Principles espoused are applicable to every pre-industrial army the world over, as well as post industrial armies still heavily dependant on animal transport. The book has a wealth of information, so much, in fact, that the footnotes often take up most of the page. I highly recommend it.
fun fact: Even the word "logistics" comes from the greek word "λογιστική". Barbarians copied even the terminology not only the greek tactics (=τακτική in greek).
Στέφανος Καρ When I have been visited India, I saw from where Democrit copied his philosophy. When I have been visited Iran, I realized from where Pithagora mathematics is. When I have been visited Egypt I saw the Bible on the walls of egyptian temples. Byzantium is not founded by king Byzas of Megara, but by anatolian hitits to whom as Istanbul was returned back. The greeks are denominated in history as "corrupts". They stole all indo-arian mythology and send it in derision to prepare the way of christian dogma, which is based partially not on greek gnosticism, which didn't exist, but on tomaite gnosticism. With this tomaite dogma is connected apostel Thomas, as unfaithful apostel. Because he really knew something. The myth of Medeea is a monstrosity in the greek mythology but a methods of enligtenmemt in tomaite dogma, connected to middle way of yoga. And etc.
It's also amazing how long they can survive without it. Caravan camels that cross the Sahara or Gobi without food and water are in such a terrible shape that they need six months to regain their strength to be able to make the return trip.
this is the part of war that no one ever thinks about, but it's really fascinating. People had to be extremely smart to have continued success like this.
All great commanders always worry about the logistics and other small matters because they often effect their armies more than anything else. And I think that Alexander the Great was better than most at it. Good on him. My compliments to those who made this video a reality.
+Kings and Generals on an unrelated note have you thought about making a video about modern logistics? Something like those of the Third Reich during their early Russian and French invasions.
If anyone needs to see a video on anything regarding military history, this is it. It is also a great video to do a series on the exageration of numbers by historical sources (battle of Raphia, Magnesia, Cannae) and how logistically, Ancient empires would not be able to support such large field armies in one location. At Magnesia alone, the size of what the Seleucid army as mentioned by Livy needed would be 162 tons of food and fodder and 490 tons of water a day! And this is just for the army, if we consider that a horse cart could pull one ton and that they were using horse carts exclusively that would mean that you would need 652 carts to transport all of this which would add (assuming one horse per cart which I doubt since a single pack horse pulling one ton is not really that easy) another 3 tons of fodder and 22 tons of water. Double that if carts were pulled by two horses and likely more than that since some of the supplies would not be carried by cart making it less efficient. Assuming a length of 6 meters per cart, you would get a 4Km long line of carts (half that for a 2x2 line if possible) and these carts would have to go backwards and forwards every day! Assuming that soldiers would get their 1 day ration replenished per resuply and that the carts that could cover about 15Km in a day would need to be in close proximity to their supply resources in order to be able to bring about the needed supplies or you would need to eat into your rations. So an army that big would have to be about 7.5Km away from different supply sources if they had 652 carts or 15Km with 1304 carts... It is ridiculous! I recently read a PhD thesis on fertility in ancient Rome and they could get about 5Kg of cereal per acre or something like that (I don't remember exaclty) which means ythat you would need 131 square Km of farmland just to feed this army! It is bonkers! And this is just the staples. Once you go into dried fruit, whatever meat and fish they could get even in a 1:10 relationship, you are looking at 60 more carts and so on and so on. And forget foraging. You would have to have a foraging area the size of Paris!!! Your armyu would have to disperse so much that you would be defeated just by sheer lack of concentration of numbers. It wouldn't be an army anymore. These types of baggage trains would not be feasible! And I am not taking into account the camp followers, cart drivers, etc. That would add another army on top of that so these results could double. This is super interesting.
Things like the water supply of Pergamon (carrying water over dozens of kilometres and pumping it to the top of a mountain by a pressured pipe) are actually quite impressive. "They didn't have plumbing" is nonsense.
The water supply in Pergamon that I mentioned, was built in Hellenistic times, though, when the city definitely was Greek (and important, unlike earlier settlements there). Also, I doubt that we can assign ethnicity to the rather few remains we have of pre-Hellenistic Pergamon. That Wiki article though - really? :D
@@LuisAldamiz Greeks had plumbing. Some of it is even displayed in museums and in the Athenian subway, it was ceramic parts placed one on top of the other. Actually Greeks also had indoor plumbing not only street plumbing.
A nice addition to a rather good day. Thanks. Had been eagerly looking forwards for this and, as usual, I am not disappointing. Thanks again! Keep it up. This video is practically flawless.
As a logisctical officer in the indonesian army, such logistical ops during ancient era is a pain in the arse, limited technology and territory way too stretched, too many risk for any ops to fail In conclusion, Alexander was a madlad
a great show, revealing what is little discussed! Kudos! only thing i would like added is a discussion of how Alex secured his water based supply, from Asia Minor thru Tyre to Egypt, before he moved inland into Syria & Mesopotamia.
Very interesting. It seems that his father prepared everything in an almost failsafe way. Pity, he dies at such a tender age and never created his global empire (or as global as was considered at the time). It is interesting to note how much the Roman legions would inherit and adapt, or develop the same things themselves, such as the soldiers carrying their rations, the construction of infrastructure, the focus on logistics and so on. Liked the Rome 2 cursor btw Also, I am glad you mentioned Engles.
Hi! Do you plan to do a series focused on American Civil War? I have tried to read books on Civil War to understand the strategies and tactics used by the generals, but I have been frustrated by poorly illustrated maps. Please consider doing a huge long series on EVERY single major battles fought in the Civil War. Thank you! :)
Great video as usual, but just one suggestion - use the metric system for values and I know that they were mentioned in the video but I prefer to watch the video as only audio (podcast style) and most people in the world use Metric system.
If you need more Alexander in your life: bit.ly/2nZDBVV
Kings and Generals thanks guys, you know I love my Alexander. He’s one of the very few generals in history to have accomplished so much in so little time. Literally every area he conquered would forever be changed
We know the names of Roman armies ,Legio 1 something...and etc,what do we know about the Greek armies ,did they call their phalanxes something particularly?
each of Alexander's phalanxes were regionally-based. For instance, there was a Macedonian phalanx from the region of Lyncestis, so that battalion was likely called the Lyncestian battalion or something similar.
There was a similar naming division with Pyrrhus' army where his Epirote phalanx battalions were divided between the various Epirote tribes (for instance there was a Molossian, Thesprotian and Chaonian phalanx).
We also have references in later hellenistic armies to specific phalanx units being distinguishable from the colour of their shields. There was for instance a bronze shield phalanx, a white shield phalanx, and perhaps most famously (and some might say notoriously), the silver shields.
@@battlesoftheancients what about before Alexander era? What about Sparta ,Athens and other?
ohh yes we need a lot.!! thanks for these excellent videos they are very rare to be found and are analytical
All hail logistics!
Like seriously, you can't conquer anything if your soldiers are starving. Wish people recognised its importance more.
There is a common saying, that more warriors died due to the starvation and illness than at the end of the enemy spear.
Probably true to be honest. Although it all depends on which army, which campaign, which general, which region, etc.
Even as late as the Crimea & the American Civil War, this could happen
Dave Thompson Even in WW2.
The Germans had winter equipment. They just couldn't transport it to the troops at the front because food and ammunition were considered more important and the available transportation entirely insufficient to move all the needed supplies through Russia.
Before the start of the campaign, the German quartermaster general explicity said that the invasion could be supplied for about 500 km before transportation collapses. It was considered unimportant and then played out exactly as predicted.
Fun fact: Alexander the Great had thousands of Kings and Generals T-shirts which he would award to soldiers who served exceptionally well during his conquests of Persia
If you can, fly Pancake! Darn I need me an Alexander in my life, nohomo tho.
In China, we learned more about Pythagoras, Euclid, Archimedes, Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Homer, and Sophocles in high-school textbooks. Greek Mathematicians, Philosophers, and Authors were truly great. Still, Alexander was the crucial one responsible for spreading that culture. (Later we had diplomatic relations with Greko-Bactrian kingdoms in Han dynasty. )
I heard about the Heavenly Horses that the Chinese emperors got through a western expedition into Greco-Bactrian lands. Cool stuff!
Your maths books are insane
Interesting
I know, we remember well the War of the Heavenly Horses Asian one...
Aristotle was his teacher recommend of his father but Platon had some problems as beeing half greek. Jewish refused him as a apostle, because of their hate against macedonian tradesmen which made them competition. Platon was replaced with Paul. But christians monasteries from Romania considers him as apostle.
Fun Facts. Did the Macedonian logistical reforms influence Marius?
Later, with the Marian Reforms at the beginning of the first century BC, the Romans would adopt a similar logistical system to Philip in their own army (reduced size of baggage train, made the soldiers carry their own kit) and the legionaries thus gained the nickname Marius’ mules. Could Philip's reforms have been the inspiration for Marius?
Macedonian roads: uniting the empire.
One other area that truly epitomised Alexander's logistical brilliance was his road building. Among his army were specialised surveyors and teams of road constructors - mainly from his light infantry. We hear Alexander tasked these men with clearing obstacles and constructing roads to aid his army through difficult terrain.
Yet Alexander evidently intended these roads to have a much longer lasting impact. Once finished, they not only aided the speed of Alexander’s march but they also greatly increased communication and feasibility of overland travel throughout his spear-won territory - most notably to his new cities spread throughout Asia. Supply depots were likely also constructed along these new roads.
All this both provided and secured lines of supply and communication for the Macedonian army when on campaign throughout his empire.
Alexander had intended for instance, to build a coastal road with intermittent ports stretching from Egypt to the Straits of Gibraltar to supply his future campaign in the west. Yet his untimely death at Babylon in 323 BC, aged only 32, brought a swift end to these bold plans.
Are you legally allowed to speak about the Romans? :-)
I love Rome. Coming soon!
interesting Fact
The speed of communication is crucial in any situation - especially in warfare. Telegraph, radios, walkie talkies, remote control, satellite, internet, networking...
i still think it was a punishment for not follow him into india
I'm an Army logistician. I read a book about this years ago. This is a wonderful synopsis. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
It boggles my mind that any ancient army could be sustained for long on the march. The availability of water alone seems enormous... Like where the fuck are they getting so much water so quickly. Are they digging wells every ten miles or something haha!
How the hell did 100k plus armies exist back before the train was invented! Just insane to me and wish I could go back in time to see...
Always wondered what would have happened if someone invented the bicycle, gears, and most importantly a decent tire back 3,000 years ago... You'd have small lightning bike units shredding up the country side doing hit and run tactics. I'm sure some would train to use a polearm on a bike too! I mean the Companions could charge enemies without stirrups and stay on the horse while steering it without using their hands!
POG
Great job as always, many tend to forget how armies were full of mortal men and not just robots that marched for a decade straight behind Alexander
True, it was essential to have a good supply chain.
4:02 Aww, look at this cute little red thingie in Western Italy. Who would've thought that one day it'll take over the map.
I think they will fail!
@@KingsandGenerals Well, Brennus missed his chance. Whatever, it's not like this city will be looted after 8 centuries, right?
@@KingsandGenerals What about that yellow light in Sicily what citystate does that belong to?
Well as a history Master I tell you -spoiler alert - they will ;-)
Alexander should’ve marched West not East.
3:12 If I'm gonna die in battle, I might as well die in style.
My experience as a soldier taught me logistics arguably THE MOST important thing in any army.
Not just arguably
If you haven't read well known European historians and you only have read the Yugoslavians you have to start from point zero . Than you will understand not only 19-20 centuries but also medieval Bulgarian history and ancient history of Greece.I would repeat again for you. The problem is that the people ( Revolutionary's from 1903)- all of them proclaimed that they were Bulgarians from Macedonia.They themselves stated in letters and memories and still alive relatives that they were Bulgarians. So the point is that you can't change their identity postmortem like Tito did in 1945. Or you think that can do it?
By the way what is your proof that your DNA and DNA of Alexander The Great same? Do you believe in this? If you really believe in this your country should never change the name under the Greeks demands.
In case with Bulgaria all is clear. THE people declared that were Bulgarians lived not long time ago, how ever before Tito Yugoslavia 1945 .
@@petremitrov ehm, I don't know if you see a comment I am not seeing, but I think you commented on the wrong comment
What was your MOS
@@petremitrov The fuck
Alexander also had two great teachers, Aristotle and his father Philip
Study. 3 . Leonidas
Yea, he had. Perhaps the best of the teachers. And yet the only thing he did was to plunder the world around. Such a contrast.
ahmedshinwari you are mental he stopped Islam from entering Europe for decades and kept peace in Europe ... dumbass
ahmedshinwari not everyone drinks Starbucks and is a progressive little bitch like u ..
Vincent now that is just stupid since you know Islam was After Alexander the Great’s time by like 900 years
Even Macedonian army had Kings and Generals t-shirt, so you better get yours as well. ;)
Always happy to get a comment from our fellow creator. :-)
@@KingsandGenerals yep
In short, Alexander always grabbed the best option for his army, be it getting new troops, adopting new formations and adapting to suit tough conditions. Something tells me History would have been very different if he had alive for a decade longer. If this man had turned his attention to building a kingdom, I think he would have formed an empire that lasted centuries.
I sometimes wake in the middle of the night and find myself imagining 'what if he lived for 20-30 more years...'
Hellenistic kingdoms lasted 3 centuries. But was around 4 kingdoms or 5 instead of one big one.
@@karlamay_ same
He was a good commander, bad adminstrator
@@akashpatro9393False. History proves he was just as good as a administrator as he was a general.
I'd forgotten to what extent Alexander owed his success to his father Philip, from whom he inherited the ancient world's #1 military machine. And I didn't know Philip had pioneered many aspects of Alexander's logistics. Great video.
Thank you!
It wasnt necessarily the best phalanx overall. But the easiest phalanx to train and have it ready fast and effective if you cover it well.
@3:12 I didn't realize the Macedonians promoted this channel before it even existed. Perhaps the Oracle of Delphi had a vision of it she shared with Phillip II.
"The bull is crowned.
All is done.
The sacrificer is ready.
Oh, and make a bunch of shirts with 'Kings and Generals' on them, they'll be important later."
The best part of this video is the upbeat, energetic, tense, dramatic music while explaining stuff like equipment carried by individual soldiers. Lol. Only Kings and Generals could pull that off and make it cool instead of corny! Very informative and entertaining video guys, especially the explanation of how Philip II abandoned ox carts in favor of horses and mules as his beasts of burden, with camels added later by Alexander III the Great. I didn't know about that! Thanks for that!
One of the best videos to date, guys! It is amazing to know how Generals in Alexander's time successfully kept their forces fed and watered.
Thank you for your kind words!
3:57 awww look how cute little Rome is sitting in that tiny section of Italy.
Cute, eh? :D
This is my most desired Alexander topic. His campaign and battles were amazing but it was his logistics that made it possible.
Awesome. Battles are the tip of the iceberg, so it's nice to get a glimpse of what armies attend to in the meantime.
One of the things I love the most about this channel is how you use these infographics. They're equal parts slick, informative, and entertaining.
Donald W. Engels! I've been working my way through his book on Alexanders logistics and it was quite the treat to see this video. Well done!
Great video ! Nothing less expected from the legendary descendant of Achilles.
Yet another great video depicting ancient warfare logistics. I support you very much to continue a series like this where you will cover other factions as well like Roman, Persian and other.
Thank you! We will!
Rome Total War-1 Brutii (Roman, glory) VS Julii (Roman, glory)
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Rome total war-1 Julii (roman, glory ) vs Gallic (bravery)
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This channel deserves it's own TV show.
Hopefully, one day. :-)
Alexander: _Mentions logistics_
SPQR: _Looms menacingly in the distance_
This is still one of my favorite videos. I’d always struggled to get a handle on logistics, but this video gave me my first insights that really stuck.
The Russian army's logistical nightmare in Ukraine reminded me of this brilliant video. Consistently great content through the years, thanks K&G
A video on Xenophon and the Ten Thousand would be cool as well.
On our list!
The first time I asked K & G to make a video on it was more that half a year ago . And the latest was on the last video. But nevertheless he never assured me that this was certainly the case.
03:10 hahaha the t-shirt
My father in law did logistics for the Canadian forces in Afghanistan. I can’t imagine how difficult an army of THIS size would be to plan for.
Yeah, the modern armies are much more organized and the chain of command makes it much easier to follow.
Rome Total War-1 Julii (Roman, glory) VS Carthage (most terrible army)
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Rome Total War-1 Parthia (glory) VS Julii (Roman ,glory)
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“Move swift as the wind and closely-formed as the wood.Attack like the fire and be still as the mountain” “Be subtle!be subtle! and use your spies for every kind of business” Sun Tzu-The Art of War
I needed my fix today thanks kings 👍. During the Persian conquest, most cities that were liberated by Alexander gave up without a fight conserving his army for Gauglemela and many other major battles. And unlike many other generals, Alexander adopted military tactics and culture into his army making it majorly effective, he could see the future well beyond his time.
Dennis Cleary
Liberated?! Achamenids treated their subjects better than any ancient Empire...
Interesting how important the logistics are to a massive conquest. Thanks for the the video, great work as always.
Thanks for watching!
That moment where you start liking their videos before watching it, because you know all their videos are great
Thank you for watching
500 miles in 13 days with a 40kg pack is just INSANE to me. That's 60km a day. I remember walking with a 10kg pack over flat ground in Spain and barely being able to walk 40km each day. These phalangites were no joke.
It also pretty amazing that Alexander had learned such tactical brilliance especially on the battlefield. I mean during the battle of hydaspes, it was the first time that the Macedonian forces had fought elephants in significant numbers, and yet Alexander still led them to a pretty decisive victory against king Porus and his Indian forces. It really makes you think had Alexander lived longer, would he have returned to India and possibly even tried to take on the maurya empire? Or even the Zhou in China? With fresh forces I mean.
Loved this episode, few channels cover logistics and I hope its something you do for more periods and generals. Another thing I'd like to suggest is to add timestaps to the description of your season videos. I was enjoying your monghol season video (again for like the 3rd time) but I'd love to know exactly which episode I am watching. Watching these videos really is a treat, few people as much enjoyment for love and history (and you give us a bigger picture than extrahistory that gives a more personal take on history which I also love).
Problem is, UA-cam is deliberately deranking videos like that and we start to lose views.
Kings and Generals spoiling me again thank you so much
Thanks for watching!
I understand Mongol also bring their livestock during their campaign just like a nomads, but Alexander are using "conventional supply lines" yet they managed to conquer known world.
Yeah, but it was a bit different. We'll talk about it.
A55tech, you don't have to be an asshole, Alexander The Great also have a nick name "King of 4 corners of the world"
Different armies mean different logistics, the mongol empire was one based on size and speed. Most Mongol territory was the open plains and areas where nomadic/horse travel was easier. Alexander's forces moved much slower, but did have more flexibility in terms of geographical dominance, hence why Alexander's army held territory in India that the mongols couldn't obtain in their own conquests.
The Macedonians held nothing. Alexander's Empire was held together by Syrian-Persian bureaucrats & periodic mass-murders that left half the cities in the Middle East in ruins, until the Parthians repaired them 200 years later. They held zero territory in India apart from one city-state that surrendered & another that didn't- both of which Alexander had to return back to their owners when his troops mutinied.
As it is- there was no more an "Alexandrian" Empire than there was a Hunnic one. The only Greek Empires around the time were of the Diadochi who actually had a plan beyond "Murder everyone & claim to be King." It was good Alexander died when he did at the height of his Power, or he'd had been laughed at today.
@@a55tech You are such a bitch.
I have Engel's book, and it is excellent. He has a formula for calculating food, water, fodder and how many pack animals are required for a given sized army. I have created an Excel spreadsheet for Classical war gaming. By playing around with the formula you can instantly see in Excel how changing the number of servants, how much grain the men carry, or other factors affect the speed and logistics of an army. Large armies were very slow and on the verge of starvation if they didn't keep constantly on the move to new areas for forage. The Perfect army seems to be 40-50,000 fighting men. Large enough to intimidate or win battles, small enough to still move fairly rapidly and still relatively easy to provision.
Perfect, as always. Please, more Alexander videos!
More on the way!
I bought the book "Alexander the Great and the Logistics of the Macedonian Army" by Donald W. Engels mentioned at 12:25 of this video is an informative and very readable book. I highly recommend it.
I'm loving the icons that you guys use - do you create them yourselves?
Yep, all Cogito :-)
This is an episode I needed to see. I'm pooling what I know about Classical Era warfare (a lot of it learned from this channel and Wikipedia) into a board game.
Happy you enjoyed it!
Fun Fact : Alexander the Great was NOT a SLAV. He was a Hellene
Macedonian
Thats correct, a Macedonian Hellene
Fun fact modern Greeks are not Hellene but Christians
As i am not native speker of English, you cant speak any of ancient languages properly which you are claiming as "Greek".
@@janeza382 let's be honest here, I do not hate Makedonskis. What I do hate is what their country has done to its citizens.
You can call Greeks whatever you like, at the end of the day The word Greek is in English only. Greece's official name is the Hellenic Republic. Our language and culture has been around for thousands of years.
Makedonskis have been around for 100years.
Before that your great Tetos and Babas self identified as Bulgarians.
I am blessed to have learnt history of Europe and Americas (ancient and modern) in Australia.
It is only in Fyro Macedonia that they teach otherwise.
Good video.whenever I thought about Alexander ,logistics and reccons never came to my mind.
Now you tell me about these two aspects.thanks for this.Alexander is the greatest king and General of all time.
Thanks for watching!
Next :Logistics of the mongol army!
It is considered.
Didnt Mongols "life off the land", that is plunder civilian settlements nonstop? There is reason we never hear about glorious campaigns of Mongols in Mongolia.
@@OkurkaBinLadin they "lived" in their 10 men squads and would forage the land to restock their supplies, a feat not many armies are really capable of, since this requires quite a lot of mobility which the Mongolian Horsemen of course possessed
This series on Alexander is amazing
I am proud Macedonian. Yes we Greeks teach the world with our great leader Alexander the Great!
MACEDONIA: 4000 YEARS OF GREEK CIVILIZATION. I jealous you Greeks
You Greeks rock: Alexander ,Leonidas, hercules and goes on
But now Greece is sourounded by non european FYROM gypsies, poor albanians and turks enemies
MACEDONIA: 4000 YEARS OF GREEK CIVILIZATION true
If you are Macedonian you are not Greek that is haw its go barbarian
Thanks for covering such a diverse range of topics!
“My logisticians are a humorless lot. They know they are the first ones I will slay if my campaign fails.“ Alexander the Great
1:10 Fun fact: in world war 2, US side, for every soldier on the battlefield, there were 17 people behind the front lines supporting him! (Intel, logistics, supplies, etc.)
Heart me, it's my B-day today!
Happy birthday dude
Thanks man
Happy belated birthday man
I think this is the best one you made yet! It was very intresting and well made. Keep up the good work!
Thank you! More on the way!
Great video as usual!
Thank you!
Awesome explaining overlooked details of Alexander's army! Thumbs up approval! 👍
Thank you very much!
As a logistics officer in the army I approve this video :D
That is what I want to hear. :-) Thanks!
You're most welcome.
I have Engels Book, and it is excellent. The Principles espoused are applicable to every pre-industrial army the world over, as well as post industrial armies still heavily dependant on animal transport. The book has a wealth of information, so much, in fact, that the footnotes often take up most of the page. I highly recommend it.
fun fact: Even the word "logistics" comes from the greek word "λογιστική". Barbarians copied even the terminology not only the greek tactics (=τακτική in greek).
and who says greeks diddn't copy from other civilizations to the eat and south? be proud if you want but there are ons of other great civilizations.
@@schnwiedr5503 cry harder germ-an.
Fun fact: Greeks copied from the Egyptians
@@schnwiedr5503 Who?
Στέφανος Καρ When I have been visited India, I saw from where Democrit copied his philosophy. When I have been visited Iran, I realized from where Pithagora mathematics is. When I have been visited Egypt I saw the Bible on the walls of egyptian temples. Byzantium is not founded by king Byzas of Megara, but by anatolian hitits to whom as Istanbul was returned back. The greeks are denominated in history as "corrupts". They stole all indo-arian mythology and send it in derision to prepare the way of christian dogma, which is based partially not on greek gnosticism, which didn't exist, but on tomaite gnosticism. With this tomaite dogma is connected apostel Thomas, as unfaithful apostel. Because he really knew something. The myth of Medeea is a monstrosity in the greek mythology but a methods of enligtenmemt in tomaite dogma, connected to middle way of yoga. And etc.
You really did deliver this time... Bravo!!
Thank you for watching :)
That's crazy that camels could drink 10 gallons of water a day.
It's also amazing how long they can survive without it. Caravan camels that cross the Sahara or Gobi without food and water are in such a terrible shape that they need six months to regain their strength to be able to make the return trip.
Still amazed how people cannit differentiate camel and a dromedare.
Mauno T. that's interesting point, I looked it up and it says they are both camels, one hump = dromedare, two humps = bactrian
Horses too
this is the part of war that no one ever thinks about, but it's really fascinating.
People had to be extremely smart to have continued success like this.
All great commanders always worry about the logistics and other small matters because they often effect their armies more than anything else. And I think that Alexander the Great was better than most at it. Good on him. My compliments to those who made this video a reality.
The loot in the cart at 5:50. An actual lute. 😂 Good stuff.
What is war without some music? :-)
Once a watcher, always a fan!! One of the first!!
Happy to hear that!
3:15 one of the most subtle plugs I've ever seen
;-)
+Kings and Generals on an unrelated note have you thought about making a video about modern logistics? Something like those of the Third Reich during their early Russian and French invasions.
Yeah, considering it!
If anyone needs to see a video on anything regarding military history, this is it. It is also a great video to do a series on the exageration of numbers by historical sources (battle of Raphia, Magnesia, Cannae) and how logistically, Ancient empires would not be able to support such large field armies in one location.
At Magnesia alone, the size of what the Seleucid army as mentioned by Livy needed would be 162 tons of food and fodder and 490 tons of water a day! And this is just for the army, if we consider that a horse cart could pull one ton and that they were using horse carts exclusively that would mean that you would need 652 carts to transport all of this which would add (assuming one horse per cart which I doubt since a single pack horse pulling one ton is not really that easy) another 3 tons of fodder and 22 tons of water. Double that if carts were pulled by two horses and likely more than that since some of the supplies would not be carried by cart making it less efficient. Assuming a length of 6 meters per cart, you would get a 4Km long line of carts (half that for a 2x2 line if possible) and these carts would have to go backwards and forwards every day! Assuming that soldiers would get their 1 day ration replenished per resuply and that the carts that could cover about 15Km in a day would need to be in close proximity to their supply resources in order to be able to bring about the needed supplies or you would need to eat into your rations. So an army that big would have to be about 7.5Km away from different supply sources if they had 652 carts or 15Km with 1304 carts... It is ridiculous! I recently read a PhD thesis on fertility in ancient Rome and they could get about 5Kg of cereal per acre or something like that (I don't remember exaclty) which means ythat you would need 131 square Km of farmland just to feed this army! It is bonkers! And this is just the staples. Once you go into dried fruit, whatever meat and fish they could get even in a 1:10 relationship, you are looking at 60 more carts and so on and so on. And forget foraging. You would have to have a foraging area the size of Paris!!! Your armyu would have to disperse so much that you would be defeated just by sheer lack of concentration of numbers. It wouldn't be an army anymore.
These types of baggage trains would not be feasible! And I am not taking into account the camp followers, cart drivers, etc. That would add another army on top of that so these results could double.
This is super interesting.
You could propably find the most mundane thing about the ancient word and still make it sound exciting...how about ancient greek plumbing?
Don't know about Greeks, but Roman plumbing is amazing!
Things like the water supply of Pergamon (carrying water over dozens of kilometres and pumping it to the top of a mountain by a pressured pipe) are actually quite impressive. "They didn't have plumbing" is nonsense.
The water supply in Pergamon that I mentioned, was built in Hellenistic times, though, when the city definitely was Greek (and important, unlike earlier settlements there). Also, I doubt that we can assign ethnicity to the rather few remains we have of pre-Hellenistic Pergamon.
That Wiki article though - really? :D
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@@LuisAldamiz Greeks had plumbing. Some of it is even displayed in museums and in the Athenian subway, it was ceramic parts placed one on top of the other. Actually Greeks also had indoor plumbing not only street plumbing.
A nice addition to a rather good day. Thanks. Had been eagerly looking forwards for this and, as usual, I am not disappointing. Thanks again! Keep it up. This video is practically flawless.
Thank you very much! Hopefully, all your days will be good.
Thanks, your too!
1:50 Philip was like *my army gonna be fast as fuck boiii*
Fast is good, I guess. :-)
wow what an amazing video. thank you for your attention to detail. please keep it up!!!!
We will, thank you!
Would be great to see a video on the logistics of Hannibal's crossing of the Alps
Will consider, but I am sure the sources are obscure on that.
As a logisctical officer in the indonesian army, such logistical ops during ancient era is a pain in the arse, limited technology and territory way too stretched, too many risk for any ops to fail
In conclusion, Alexander was a madlad
Good work as always. Thank you for the lesson. Admiral yi please!!!!!
Thanks!
a great show, revealing what is little discussed! Kudos!
only thing i would like added is a discussion of how Alex secured his water based supply, from Asia Minor thru Tyre to Egypt, before he moved inland into Syria & Mesopotamia.
Can you do one about Caesars campaign in Gaul.
We will
Very interesting. It seems that his father prepared everything in an almost failsafe way. Pity, he dies at such a tender age and never created his global empire (or as global as was considered at the time).
It is interesting to note how much the Roman legions would inherit and adapt, or develop the same things themselves, such as the soldiers carrying their rations, the construction of infrastructure, the focus on logistics and so on.
Liked the Rome 2 cursor btw
Also, I am glad you mentioned Engles.
Yeah, we will have a "comparative analysis" video.
Interesting, can't wait!
Alexander is considered great not only because of his tactics and logistics but also he conquered 5% of the world alone.
Amazing work.
Thank you!
Np people need to know it was not all just about the battles logistics play a massive role.
@@ArchCone they will learn that! :-)
6:24 The Virgin Horse Vs The Chad Camel
That should be a shirt. :-)
Love your channel and all the great videos! Especially the ones on Alexander, the Romans, and the Mongols!
Thanks, more on the way!
THE GLORY OF THE GREEKS
@@Craterus123 you're a fucking idiot. Go back to your cave.
@@Craterus123 alexander for us is like our supreme leader
respect Alexander the Great from Aleksandar
@TheExplorer respect ✌️
Craterus hahahaah your historical knowledge is so low . Alexander to the Hellenes was the supreme commander of all Greeks . Macedoniski hahaha
Good job! Please something more about Alexander's campaigns
Thanks!
Philip the II is honestly so underrated
Great video more Alexander!
More on the way!
Seems like the armies OF Alexander and Phillip were fans of Kings and Generals channel
As they should. :-)
Your videos are inspiring me a lot..!!! Do make some videos on Indian Empires, especially Southern Indian Empires like Chola !
Thanks!
You Greeks have the best history: Achilles, Alexander the Great , Leonidas!
"For the glooooory of Greece" as Alexander proudly said many times.Yes Greece is great history
Golden Greeks! Europe is Greek word. Alexander the Great make that happend by spreading Greek culture around the world
Europe is Greek ,Macedonia is Greek ,Turkey is Greek ....was Cleopatra Greek? Hey i am cosmopolitan Macedonian Christian not Greek!
@@janeza382 Yes Cleopatra was greek as her name itself is greek.
@@janeza382 If you aren't greek you aren't macedonian either.
Got to love that AoE stock animal noises for the clicking part of the video
Please do a video about xenophon and the March of the ten thousand
It is on the list.
@@KingsandGenerals is there a specific time frame
Nope
Hi! Do you plan to do a series focused on American Civil War? I have tried to read books on Civil War to understand the strategies and tactics used by the generals, but I have been frustrated by poorly illustrated maps. Please consider doing a huge long series on EVERY single major battles fought in the Civil War. Thank you! :)
Yep, it is planned :-)
Those animal sounds are from age of empires arn't they?
Yep!
I was Looking for this commend hahaha!
Great video as usual, but just one suggestion - use the metric system for values and I know that they were mentioned in the video but I prefer to watch the video as only audio (podcast style) and most people in the world use Metric system.
That is a good point. We made a mistake.
Proud to be Greek😎💪🇬🇷
lol
Lol
Found the Homophobe.
@@willtherealgeorgemichaelpl5879
Found the homophobic bigot
The modern day Greece is not a worthy inheritor of the legacy of Ancient Greece. How's that GDP going?
Great video!
Thank you, good sir!
I see you using the AoE sound effects for the animals!
Yep!
Xenophon 's Anabasis is a tale of legends. If you ever have time you could make a video about it.
Great video