I love how throughout the scene, Norton’s eyes are framed completely dark - while Tommy’s eyes are clearly visible and vulnerable. Really shows their character and motivations
Poor guy; he was the only one who could prove Andy's innocence. And he may have messed up quite a bit in life, but he didn't deserve what the warden did to him.
In the novel, Tommy gets removed and transfered in another prison. This line of story, with his murder, is better and more coherent. Indeed, he could have talked and revealed the real truth about Dufresne from another prison.
You know Hollywood. They have to make the villain characters totally over-the-top despicable, to make their comeuppance more palatable. If the warden had been portrayed as a semi-decent sort, then the audience would have felt conflicted about his death.
Not only that, but Andy gave up because Tommy was the only one who knew he wasn't a killer, so when Tommy was killed, Andy pretty much knew he would be in prison for the rest of his days as an innocent man until he escaped.
Well Andy was preparing his escape from the day he was sent to the penitentiary, so I'm pretty sure he knew he was gonna die in jail years before Tommy came in.
Those who read Stephen King can recognize the Warden's character instantly. King frequently makes it a point throughout various novels that some of the most evil men in the world are the ones who have an upstanding reputation and hide behind a facade of purity and good character, usually of a religious nature. Definitely in my Top 5 favorite movies of all time.
Not really. Stephen King is a hardcore Democrat who likes to villainize Republicans (his political opposition) and project very, very rare stereotypes of them. Democrats have a lot of trouble keeping their politics out of their movies.
Good aboservation man. When i first saw this movie i couldnt understand why they killed him. Then i saw it second time then i understood why he was killed. As hw was the only person who knew Andy was inncocent
@@TheKing-qu8cmit was kind of obvious it was a trap, seeing outside at night. If he wanted to see him properly he would have called in his office during daytime when is working hour.
The book plays it out differently. Rather than being killed, they offer Tommy to go to a better prison, and he accepts the offer. But I understand why the director/screenwriter chose to go in this direction.
Tommy didn't let his guard down and could smell something fishy. Young kid but had street smarts the whole time. You see he didn't drop his eye contact when the warden light his cigarette up. That says alot of how he calculated who was trust worthy or not. Poor Tommy knew as soon as he went through the gate he had a feeling of distrust and questioned the guard. Unfortunately he had to play ball and was dead from being too honest. Powerful scene
@@JM-dy4ty if it were me I would also have goosebumps 1.) warden wants to see you 2.) warden wants to see you anywhere outside of his office or the confines WITHIN hte prison walls. 3.) guards are cryptic about why the warden wants to see you 4.) being offered a cigarette by the warden 5.) it's dead in the middle of night. tommy has been in jail before throughout his life if the warden is going to see you it's going to be during teh day not in the middle of night.
he never should have told the warden the truth and never should have gonne see him in the night outside his office with no witnesses but in his position being a prisoner it was hard to avoid this set up
This right here was the scene when Warden Norton turned into one of the biggest villains of cinema history. Committing financial fraud was bad. Keeping Andy prisoner despite doubts of his guilt was bad. But he arranged for the murder of someone in this scene, just because that person was willing to tell the truth and set an innocent man free. That is really unforgivable for Warden Norton.
I hated this warden. Truly a terrible man. I felt so bad for Tommy when Hadley killed him. He did not deserve to die so young, especially when he was just becoming a redeemable character. R.I.P. Tommy Williams.
@@JRJunior8624 So you're saying people can't have feelings for the characters just cause it's a movie? I can tell you're not a very fun person to be around.
This conversation is brilliant. Knowing that he's about to kill Tommy makes you listen to it differently. At first I thought when he said "sometimes it's hard to know what the right thing is" he was explaining his past behaviour, but he's really testing Tommy's morals. A different convict would have understood that he was being asked if he will keep his mouth shut
The guys above me, I think it is a bit of both but the warden pretty much confirmed his true motivation by saying 'if I'm going to move on THIS, I can't have a shred of doubt' He's pretty much saying it in code language - he wants to know if Tommy's story was true, which made him a loose end and needed to be disposed of.
I remember watching this scene for the first time and Bob Gunton acts it so well that you think he's going to help Andy. And then.....it crushes your soul.
There's loads of them, children laughing, car doors shutting, wilhelm scream, wind sounds. They do my head in lol, it instantly sucks you out of the scene. You'd think sound designers on such big projects wouldn't be so hacky.
Tommy is such an underated character. He appears at first to be this touch cocky alpha but as Andy takes him in its as though someone has made an effort with Tommy for the first time in his life. Tommy struggles with something as basic as reading and writing and he achieves it through a good teacher like Andy which takes A lot for someone like him. We see see his heart open as he's willing to help Andy. It shows he is just a troubled man who just really seeking redemption in life
This sad scene is truly heartbreaking, not only he could prove Andy's innocence. He also could've gone to the university (school in general) and lived a better life. It was very tragic that the fate of Tommy turned out this way.
When I first saw the movie, this scene completely took me by surprise. When my sister first saw it, she braced herself. She could see it coming from a mile away. I think how you interpret this scene is a great indicator of the sort of person you are. I'm a warm, feely person, so I thought the warden was finally coming to terms with the idea of losing Andy, and was now ready to let him go. My sister is a cold, logical person, and she quickly worked out that the warden had brought Tommy outside in order to stage it as an escape attempt.
+Face off I kindof grinned weirdly when you said; 'My sister is a cold person.' Do you mean rational cold or actually cold? Someone that's bitter and knows how bad the world is...or the kind that makes the world bad?
The former. She'd make a great police officer or judge, but I couldn't see her as a criminal. In fact I'm much more likely of the two to engage in criminal behaviour.
Face Off Not to unappreciate your observations, but I'm somewhat a warm, childish, honest, and goody-goody person...not even close to a cold-thinker type...but I could guess the warden's true wicked intentions from a mile away at the first time watching...because I'm an INFP. So I think it's a matter of intuitive/unintuitive thing...
Face Off Plus, age and experience could teach you a thing or two about gestures, expressions, and stuff. 😊 I was 22 years old when i first watching this movie.
*Mrs. Voldemort* Maybe, but remember that these things are all but approximates. The rational can be fooled, and the carefree cab produce wisdom far beyond their years. Perhaps just a matter of exception.
Shawshank quotability 1. "Get busy livin or get busy dieing" 2. "Brooke's was here" "so was red" 3. "I like to think the last thing that went through his head..." 4. "Just give me that chance" 5. "The Pacific has no Memory."
"The music was here...and here. That's the one thing they can't confiscate, not ever. That's the beauty of it...here's where it makes most sense. We need it so we don't forget...that there are things in this world not carved out of gray stone. That there's a small place inside of us they can never lock away...hope."
"Get busy livin'...or get busy dyin'. That's goddamn right. For the second time in my life, I'm guilty of committing a crime. Parole violation. 'Course I doubt they'll toss any roadblocks up for that. Not for an old crook like me. I find I'm so excited, I can barely sit still or hold a thought in my head. I think it's the excitement only a free man can feel. A Morgan Freeman, at the start of a long journey, whose conclusion is uncertain. I hope I can make it across the border. I hope to see my friend and shake his hand. I hope the Pacific is as blue as it has been in my dreams. I hope."
What makes me angry isn’t the fact that he was shot in cold blood, but the fact that he had a chance at life once he was released thanks to Andy being willing to help him with his high school education.
I love how the very low quality of the video prevent me from seeing any faces in this clip, thus avoiding any emotional transfer between the characters and me, avoiding the sadness of the situation to touch me. Those little attention are why I love cinema.
He might be a crook but his enthusiasm in proving how innocent Andy is really shows how grateful he is towards Andy. He wants Andy to be proven innocent. That's the beauty of Tommy's character is. True to form, there is always a cruel entity gets in the way.
He is just too young and too naive, his lack of basic education (alphabet) indicated he has a rough childhood, so all for all he still has a good heart.
This is one of the cruelest scenes in all of movie history. Tommy even does his collar at 0:08 to show respect in facing the Warden. Then the evil sick fuck has him killed in such cold blood.
The music at the beginning always makes me cry. I just can’t explain it. Just perfectly encapsulates what ultimately happened to Tommy. Thomas Newman is a genius.
The warden giving a "condemned" man his last cigarette...then walking away as the "firing squad" (or assassin) did its work. Everything about this scene is absolutely brilliant, tragic, and sets the third act up perfectly. 💯
Thumbs down. Poor dude had a young wife and child, and all the time in the world to redeem himself like Andy. I knew something was going to happen to him because he knew too much, and the scene set the tone for murder as soon as it started. Almost cried.
In the Novella, Tommy is transferred back Castine in exchange for his silence. Frank says he changed it to turn up the heat and make Norton a heartless villian.
This was really a heartbreaking scene the first time I watched it, tommy showed so much life and Andy believed in him so much. Even if he didn’t believe in himself, didn’t need to end that way. There was hope. Amazing writing though, really killed that hope and turned it into sorrow.
yeah nobody went, my aunt is a crazy movie freak so when she was younger thats all she did and she watched pulp fiction (they came out the same day)then right after saw a completely empty theater and this was playing and it became her favorite movie.
This was the most heart wrenching scene in this movie Tommy wanted to save his mentor Andy He tried his best to speak the truth...He was ready to testify in front of judge He got diploma that day...such a sad fortune He deserved to live more 😔 he had wife n daughter too ... He was so dashing too
Tommy was the epitome of someone who had his whole life ahead of him and had the courage to ask for help. Only to have that hope shot down in cold blood, over money:\
How great it must have been to see this movie on cable for the first time with no expectations, not knowing anything about it and having no clue that you're about to watch one of the all time great movies.
@@cbalan777 I don't know if you have ever seen X-Men from 2000. There's a scene where Wolverine gives Rogue a ride. In that scene, she asks him for food, and he reaches for a bag of beef jerky from his glove compartment. I get the same chilling sensation when he grabs the beef jerky. PS, I have never smoked either.
This proves that aside from conversations you have with mommy, best to hold your tongue... until a lawyer is present and once he arrives, only speak when spoken to and be very brief!
Today, I was playing Prison Architect as the warden. My personal bodyguard was an armed guard named Dawson. A prisoner made an escape attempt, Dawson tried to stop him, and the prisoner killed him with his own shotgun. I started thinking about this scene at that moment.
The devious and deceitful nature of the Warden made this scene even more upsetting. The Warden lull’s tommy into a false sense of security and safety with his fraudulent persona and then when Tommy fully trusts the Warden he’s killed.
Mr. Eugene H. Krabs: Well, the way I see it, there are three possibilities: One, you stole it; two, you stole it; or three, you are willing to swear before a judge and jury...having placed your hand on the Good Book and taken an oath before Almighty God Himself
I remember when I first saw this scene it was like a kick in the gut as soon as those shots were fired...everything just felt hopeless in that moment...very powerful scene...
Brilliant portrait of human evil. I, unfortunately, knew a man just like the warden. He tried to kill me (literally) for knowing his secrets. As of today, I'm still here.
It’s pretty obvious why the warden wants this discovery to be vanished, because Andy is doing a lot in the prison for the guards in terms of handling tax money for them and all kinds of other stuff.
I don't think the warden gave two shits about Andy handling taxes for the guards but I'm sure he didn't want his personal slave money launderer seeing the light of day.
I remember watching this the first time. When Norton offered Tommy the cigarette, I knew he was done. Norton looked at the inmates with contempt. He never would have done this unless it was a ruse.
This movie showed us that the guards and the warden who are supposed to be upholding the law and keeping order are far more crooked and criminal then any of the prisoners at Shawshank.
It's sad because he truly was going on the right path and he knew in his heart he could have helped Andy. But he didn't know the first thing about corruption
He's such a great, upstanding, God fearing, Christian man. He's only doing his Christian duty to keep a man who murdered his wife and her lover behind bars where he belongs. Tommy was obviously a punk greaser liar.
@@normiesaredegeneratesthatn3331 Are you actually serious? I was being as sarcastic as I possibly could. But, talking shit from behind a keyboard is commonplace around here.
I saw that movie the first time, when this scene came up I already knew something is not right. In the middle of the night, warden sees you , offering you a cigarette , yeah thats a death sentence if you are a crooked warden.
This scene almost reminds me of the scene from Goodfellas where Joe Pesci's character (also named Tommy) went into a house expecting good things (namely getting made), not knowing that he would be killed instead. Frank Darabont must have really liked that movie!
I think it’s really effective cinematography when Hadley steps backwards after shooting Tommy, and the light coming from the window illuminates him so we can see who he is.
Its so cool how the way the warden talks can be either be twken as him being a good person and evil person so when you're suprised that he killed tommy yiu realise the meaning of the things he said
"I'd like to think that the last thing to went through the Wardens head, other than that bullet, was the wonder how the hell Andy Dufresne ever got the best of him"
And to think he intentionally had him murdered just to keep Andy guilty is a sign of an unquestionable heartless sociopath. He was no better than all the prisoners.
I’ve never hated a movie character more than I did warden norton. He was a despicable, vile, coward. The type of villain that takes hope away from those who deserve it, the kind of villain that spits on and steps on his fellow man just because he can
I remember being so clueless n innocent as a kid watching this "Aw Warden's actually a good man and cares about Andy. He just wants to make sure Tommy is telling the truth!" 😂
NORTON Would you be willing to swear before a judge and jury...having placed your hand on the Good Book and taken an oath before Almighty God Himself? TOMMY Just gimme that chance. NORTON That's what I thought.
Norton and Hadley are much more evil than all Shawshank prisoners combined! He knew that Andy was innocent but he decided to keep him so he can get away with his crimes.
the track is Kid Passed / Wild Injuns, took a while for me to find it too but its on like an expanded OST version link ua-cam.com/video/vpk9PTnOl-Y/v-deo.html
I think they didn't even report Tommy's death because that would have launched an immediate investigation and the state police would deduce fairly quickly that it was an execution and not an escape attempt. Plus, I think in the ledger there was proof that warden 'paid' Hadley to execute Tommy, as further corroborating evidence against him. Brutality was one thing, but even for Hadley acting as a contract killer seemed out of character at first glance. Glad they both got their comeuppance though.
I love how throughout the scene, Norton’s eyes are framed completely dark - while Tommy’s eyes are clearly visible and vulnerable. Really shows their character and motivations
bucklakelukie if
nice observation, bukakkelukie
Another reason why this is the greatest movie ever made
Little things that worth noting.
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Poor guy; he was the only one who could prove Andy's innocence. And he may have messed up quite a bit in life, but he didn't deserve what the warden did to him.
well the warden ended up blowing his brains out
@@navylaks2 ik, he couldn't take the arrest, what a fucking coward
@@Danthegamer68
I think he knew what the inmates would do to him ;)
You do understand it’s a movie right? Makes for a good story?
@Scott Smith
You do understand it’s speculation, right? Makes for good conversation to discuss characters.
In the novel, Tommy gets removed and transfered in another prison. This line of story, with his murder, is better and more coherent. Indeed, he could have talked and revealed the real truth about Dufresne from another prison.
This 100% should've won Adapted Screenplay over Forrest Gump
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Wasn’t andys fault. It was the wardens fault
Should've, could've, would've, it didn't happen that way, and that's that. Hindsight is 20/20, you don't learn from your mistakes without it.
I also see it as this extreme way to further diminish any hope Andy had in getting out.
You know Hollywood. They have to make the villain characters totally over-the-top despicable, to make their comeuppance more palatable. If the warden had been portrayed as a semi-decent sort, then the audience would have felt conflicted about his death.
Not only that, but Andy gave up because Tommy was the only one who knew he wasn't a killer, so when Tommy was killed, Andy pretty much knew he would be in prison for the rest of his days as an innocent man until he escaped.
Well Andy was preparing his escape from the day he was sent to the penitentiary, so I'm pretty sure he knew he was gonna die in jail years before Tommy came in.
@@jugurtanamous5430 yup but knowing he's innocent is giving him the will to escape faster
@@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012 But Andy knew he was innocent from the beginning, he just couldn't prove it.
@@jugurtanamous5430 in the beginning i think he didn't knew, because he was drunk
God forbid Andy were exonerated, how would be explain the hole in the wall masked by that cupcake fuzzy britches?
The warden was really obtuse.
what - what did you call him !!! you're forgetting yourself
now you're just being acute.
2 MONTHS IN THE HOLE, OR AM I BEING OBTUSE?
Detestable character. One of the worst in movie history.
@@Abr022575 Which usually means phenomenal acting, like people actually hated him worse than Hadley.
Those who read Stephen King can recognize the Warden's character instantly. King frequently makes it a point throughout various novels that some of the most evil men in the world are the ones who have an upstanding reputation and hide behind a facade of purity and good character, usually of a religious nature.
Definitely in my Top 5 favorite movies of all time.
What a plot twist if King was one of those
Sounds much like Obama. LOL.
Sounds like Pope Francis
0:00 center, very top; a coincidence ??
Not really. Stephen King is a hardcore Democrat who likes to villainize Republicans (his political opposition) and project very, very rare stereotypes of them. Democrats have a lot of trouble keeping their politics out of their movies.
The moment Tommy was told that the warden wanted to see him and was brought outside, I knew he was a dead man.
Good aboservation man. When i first saw this movie i couldnt understand why they killed him. Then i saw it second time then i understood why he was killed. As hw was the only person who knew Andy was inncocent
When the guard locked the gate when Tommy went outside . I felt suspicious.
Same, what gave it away to me was how the scene was framed
@@TheKing-qu8cmit was kind of obvious it was a trap, seeing outside at night. If he wanted to see him properly he would have called in his office during daytime when is working hour.
Hadley is a scary character, but in this scene we discover who the real monster is
both of them were a coupe of fqn demons though
@@spiritualfreedom5372 And the sisters. "The Sisters". They pretty fucking demonic.
@@hughjones4049 100%
Hadley was just a puppet. The warden was downright evil
Both are real monsters
The book plays it out differently. Rather than being killed, they offer Tommy to go to a better prison, and he accepts the offer. But I understand why the director/screenwriter chose to go in this direction.
This is definitely a case of movie > book
This is so much sicker
This is much more in character for the warden, I think.
Probably would have been better if they offered Tommy a transfer in the movie, but he refused it so he could help Andy, then the Warden kills him.
@XDranzer000 it probably was a way to hush him out.
Tommy didn't let his guard down and could smell something fishy. Young kid but had street smarts the whole time. You see he didn't drop his eye contact when the warden light his cigarette up. That says alot of how he calculated who was trust worthy or not. Poor Tommy knew as soon as he went through the gate he had a feeling of distrust and questioned the guard. Unfortunately he had to play ball and was dead from being too honest. Powerful scene
Reading that made my brain feel weird and not normal. It makes sense.
He already looked worried, like he knew something was wrong when he turned around to see Hadley in the tower
@@JM-dy4ty if it were me I would also have goosebumps
1.) warden wants to see you
2.) warden wants to see you anywhere outside of his office or the confines WITHIN hte prison walls.
3.) guards are cryptic about why the warden wants to see you
4.) being offered a cigarette by the warden
5.) it's dead in the middle of night. tommy has been in jail before throughout his life if the warden is going to see you it's going to be during teh day not in the middle of night.
Street smarts yes, but politics smarts is a conniving game which at this point he did not understand. Kinda like they did Stringer in The Wire.
he never should have told the warden the truth and never should have gonne see him in the night outside his office with no witnesses but in his position being a prisoner it was hard to avoid this set up
This right here was the scene when Warden Norton turned into one of the biggest villains of cinema history. Committing financial fraud was bad. Keeping Andy prisoner despite doubts of his guilt was bad. But he arranged for the murder of someone in this scene, just because that person was willing to tell the truth and set an innocent man free. That is really unforgivable for Warden Norton.
Setting Andy free would have exposed the warden's fraudulent scheme.
I hated this warden. Truly a terrible man. I felt so bad for Tommy when Hadley killed him. He did not deserve to die so young, especially when he was just becoming a redeemable character. R.I.P. Tommy Williams.
Oh for fucks sake, easy there cowboy, its a movie, not reality...do you know the difference?
@@JRJunior8624 So you're saying people can't have feelings for the characters just cause it's a movie? I can tell you're not a very fun person to be around.
@@JRJunior8624 i think the movie is immersive enough for audiences to become emotionally invested in the characters and what happens to them
@@johnnycrash4892 but at the end of it all it is just a film. Fake, and scripted, acted
@@joseperla2988 and somehow, with just that, they created magic
This conversation is brilliant. Knowing that he's about to kill Tommy makes you listen to it differently. At first I thought when he said "sometimes it's hard to know what the right thing is" he was explaining his past behaviour, but he's really testing Tommy's morals. A different convict would have understood that he was being asked if he will keep his mouth shut
He's also probing him to see if the story is real. If he said, "I was just bullshitting Andy" when pressured then problem solved for the Warden.
@@cbalan777 Yeah, and he also wanted to see if Tommy would, in fact, testify before a court.
The guys above me, I think it is a bit of both but the warden pretty much confirmed his true motivation by saying 'if I'm going to move on THIS, I can't have a shred of doubt'
He's pretty much saying it in code language - he wants to know if Tommy's story was true, which made him a loose end and needed to be disposed of.
Dont forget Andy is book keeping and helping warden . No way he lets him go.
Norton and Hadley are no better than the criminals whom got locked up at Shawshank.
Daniel Williamson no kidding they were the villains of the movie and were corrupt.
Even worse. Prisoners eventually feel remorse and guilt for what they did. These two are beyond evil.
Daniel Williamson people who commit crimes from positions of public power are worse than the criminals in prison .
@@justinhackstadt6677 Well, not all.
@XDranzer000 The Warden and the Chief Guard.
This is especially sad because Tommy is really a reformed guy at this point. I doubt he'd commit another crime if they let him go.
he said let him go. lol.
I remember watching this scene for the first time and Bob Gunton acts it so well that you think he's going to help Andy. And then.....it crushes your soul.
He knew his game would be up if Andy got set free, so he eliminated the possibility
so he met this guy in a dark prison yard, and u thought he was gonna have a heartfelt conversation? lmao
I love when Norton gets his comeuppance at the end
no death was easy escape for him
His judgment cometh and that right soon
He took the coward's way out, but he can't escape God.
The noise of the door opening and closing is one of THE most sampled sound that you hear in every films and every vidéo games !
OMG!!!!!
There's loads of them, children laughing, car doors shutting, wilhelm scream, wind sounds. They do my head in lol, it instantly sucks you out of the scene. You'd think sound designers on such big projects wouldn't be so hacky.
Interesting how he snuffed out the cigarette well before it reached its natural end (the filter) just like he did with Tommy.
Jesse Beeson that was his cue to hadley to take him out thats why he looked up & walked away without a word
Tano Robinson-Fabian Oh yeah, I know. It's just an interesting parallel between what he did to Tommy and the cigarette.
I didn't think about that. That's a very good observation.
Great spot!
Jesse Beeson symbolism is the term?
my god he's the devil himself
who's the devil himself the asshole with the glasses or Mr. Krabs?
ANGRY TIGER Krabs
He has a hard on for the "Bible" so yeah.
@HYUNWOO JUNG that's just the left today. Which includes everyone who has power in Hollywood (except Mel Gibson, Chris Pratt, and a select few others)
The MEJ
Anti-Christian, my ass. Most movies nowadays are pro-Christian. You people always have your heads in your asses. You talk out of them, too.
Tommy is such an underated character. He appears at first to be this touch cocky alpha but as Andy takes him in its as though someone has made an effort with Tommy for the first time in his life. Tommy struggles with something as basic as reading and writing and he achieves it through a good teacher like Andy which takes A lot for someone like him. We see see his heart open as he's willing to help Andy. It shows he is just a troubled man who just really seeking redemption in life
He was a boy in a man’s body and Andy was the only father figure he ever knew
I think Tommy did redeem himself. I was willing to do good by Andy - even if he didn't get the chance he had it in his heart to do the right thing..
This sad scene is truly heartbreaking, not only he could prove Andy's innocence. He also could've gone to the university (school in general) and lived a better life. It was very tragic that the fate of Tommy turned out this way.
Quien es este actor que interpreta a tomy???
@@k.p.9009 Gil Bellows
When I first saw the movie, this scene completely took me by surprise. When my sister first saw it, she braced herself. She could see it coming from a mile away.
I think how you interpret this scene is a great indicator of the sort of person you are. I'm a warm, feely person, so I thought the warden was finally coming to terms with the idea of losing Andy, and was now ready to let him go. My sister is a cold, logical person, and she quickly worked out that the warden had brought Tommy outside in order to stage it as an escape attempt.
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I kindof grinned weirdly when you said; 'My sister is a cold person.'
Do you mean rational cold or actually cold?
Someone that's bitter and knows how bad the world is...or the kind that makes the world bad?
The former. She'd make a great police officer or judge, but I couldn't see her as a criminal. In fact I'm much more likely of the two to engage in criminal behaviour.
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Not to unappreciate your observations, but I'm somewhat a warm, childish, honest, and goody-goody person...not even close to a cold-thinker type...but I could guess the warden's true wicked intentions from a mile away at the first time watching...because I'm an INFP. So I think it's a matter of intuitive/unintuitive thing...
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Plus, age and experience could teach you a thing or two about gestures, expressions, and stuff. 😊 I was 22 years old when i first watching this movie.
*Mrs. Voldemort* Maybe, but remember that these things are all but approximates. The rational can be fooled, and the carefree cab produce wisdom far beyond their years. Perhaps just a matter of exception.
Shawshank quotability
1. "Get busy livin or get busy dieing"
2. "Brooke's was here" "so was red"
3. "I like to think the last thing that went through his head..."
4. "Just give me that chance"
5. "The Pacific has no Memory."
Ray Zaffarese not tomorrow, not after breakfast, now!
"Some birds aren't meant to be caged their feathers are just too bright"
"The music was here...and here. That's the one thing they can't confiscate, not ever. That's the beauty of it...here's where it makes most sense. We need it so we don't forget...that there are things in this world not carved out of gray stone. That there's a small place inside of us they can never lock away...hope."
"Get busy livin'...or get busy dyin'. That's goddamn right.
For the second time in my life, I'm guilty of committing a crime.
Parole violation.
'Course I doubt they'll toss any roadblocks up for that.
Not for an old crook like me.
I find I'm so excited, I can barely sit still or hold a thought in my head.
I think it's the excitement only a free man can feel. A Morgan Freeman, at the start of a long journey, whose conclusion is uncertain.
I hope I can make it across the border.
I hope to see my friend and shake his hand.
I hope the Pacific is as blue as it has been in my dreams.
I hope."
Nah.. the quote is from the start of the movie and to the end!
What makes me angry isn’t the fact that he was shot in cold blood, but the fact that he had a chance at life once he was released thanks to Andy being willing to help him with his high school education.
I love how the very low quality of the video prevent me from seeing any faces in this clip, thus avoiding any emotional transfer between the characters and me, avoiding the sadness of the situation to touch me. Those little attention are why I love cinema.
He might be a crook but his enthusiasm in proving how innocent Andy is really shows how grateful he is towards Andy. He wants Andy to be proven innocent. That's the beauty of Tommy's character is. True to form, there is always a cruel entity gets in the way.
He is just too young and too naive, his lack of basic education (alphabet) indicated he has a rough childhood, so all for all he still has a good heart.
@@junwang4314 couldn't disagree more
This is one of the cruelest scenes in all of movie history.
Tommy even does his collar at 0:08 to show respect in facing the Warden.
Then the evil sick fuck has him killed in such cold blood.
its ... a fictional character my G
@@quixote5986does that really make norton even less of an evil sick fuck though?
The music at the beginning always makes me cry. I just can’t explain it. Just perfectly encapsulates what ultimately happened to Tommy. Thomas Newman is a genius.
The warden giving a "condemned" man his last cigarette...then walking away as the "firing squad" (or assassin) did its work. Everything about this scene is absolutely brilliant, tragic, and sets the third act up perfectly. 💯
Thumbs down. Poor dude had a young wife and child, and all the time in the world to redeem himself like Andy. I knew something was going to happen to him because he knew too much, and the scene set the tone for murder as soon as it started. Almost cried.
In the Novella, Tommy is transferred back Castine in exchange for his silence. Frank says he changed it to turn up the heat and make Norton a heartless villian.
SJtheMFZB umm... this is all fake....lol
Don't thumbs down its not the uploaders fault
Why the fuck you thumbs down it's a movie and and amazing one
I almost cried too
This was really a heartbreaking scene the first time I watched it, tommy showed so much life and Andy believed in him so much. Even if he didn’t believe in himself, didn’t need to end that way. There was hope. Amazing writing though, really killed that hope and turned it into sorrow.
Too many catch phrases and memorable lines, but a fan remembers them all🖤
Lost count how many times ive seen this movie, but this scene still gives me chills like it was the first time i watched it
I literally yelled out loud when this happened. It was so shocking
Imagine the audience reaction when this scene happened
@Jimmy Shaker the audience didn't deserve this masterpiece
@Jimmy Shaker true but it did do very well in the vhs/dvd sales
yeah nobody went, my aunt is a crazy movie freak so when she was younger thats all she did and she watched pulp fiction (they came out the same day)then right after saw a completely empty theater and this was playing and it became her favorite movie.
@@YourMom-tp3kp man it really is a shame that such an incredible movie started off so poorly
Imagine the reaction of imaginary audience.
This was the most heart wrenching scene in this movie
Tommy wanted to save his mentor Andy
He tried his best to speak the truth...He was ready to testify in front of judge
He got diploma that day...such a sad fortune
He deserved to live more 😔 he had wife n daughter too ...
He was so dashing too
Tommy was the epitome of someone who had his whole life ahead of him and had the courage to ask for help. Only to have that hope shot down in cold blood, over money:\
How great it must have been to see this movie on cable for the first time with no expectations, not knowing anything about it and having no clue that you're about to watch one of the all time great movies.
this was the saddest part of the movie for me, Tommy clearly grew as a person and would have truly changed his ways.
doubtful.
Jeffrey Epstein revisited this scene..
Close but different
haha, interesting take.. It may very well be true
Hard to believe this movie flopped at the box office
It’s an interesting plot twist that the Warden is WAY more evil than the inmates.
Just like Donald Sutherland as Warden Drumgoole in Lock Up.
I kinda saw this coming given that Norton wanted Tommy outside.
Truly a tragic death of a terrific character
The part where he offers him a cigarette gives me a pleasuring chilling sensation. Yes, I know that sounds weird.
gmchingon Situations like that is when you know that you are being played.
Marc T : Exactly, that's the point … what a waste of a perfectly good human being.
I don't smoke and I never have, but I get what you are saying. It's like, "Ah, a free cigarette and you're going to light it for me too? Well, shit".
@@cbalan777 I don't know if you have ever seen X-Men from 2000. There's a scene where Wolverine gives Rogue a ride. In that scene, she asks him for food, and he reaches for a bag of beef jerky from his glove compartment. I get the same chilling sensation when he grabs the beef jerky. PS, I have never smoked either.
@@gmchingon Must be something about people offering up stuff that is so compelling.
Guy had less than ten minutes of screen time and his death still hurts
This proves that aside from conversations you have with mommy, best to hold your tongue... until a lawyer is present and once he arrives, only speak when spoken to and be very brief!
The string arrangment at the beginning of this scene is absolutely beautiful and appropriate.
Today, I was playing Prison Architect as the warden. My personal bodyguard was an armed guard named Dawson. A prisoner made an escape attempt, Dawson tried to stop him, and the prisoner killed him with his own shotgun.
I started thinking about this scene at that moment.
The devious and deceitful nature of the Warden made this scene even more upsetting. The Warden lull’s tommy into a false sense of security and safety with his fraudulent persona and then when Tommy fully trusts the Warden he’s killed.
9th circle of hell for his ass
Good thing I gave up SpongeBob when I found out about this.
O-Dog Kubrick Ik Mr. Krabs was an evil bastard all along
I gave up on Gravity Falls just for this!
Ironically, I never did like Mr Krabbs. Not even one bit.
Then I find out he's Byron Hadley.
Then I'm all like "FACK!"
Mr. Eugene H. Krabs: Well, the way I see it, there are three possibilities: One, you stole it; two, you stole it; or three, you are willing to swear before a judge and jury...having placed your hand on the Good Book and taken an oath before Almighty God Himself
Lmao
I remember when I first saw this scene it was like a kick in the gut as soon as those shots were fired...everything just felt hopeless in that moment...very powerful scene...
Brilliant portrait of human evil. I, unfortunately, knew a man just like the warden. He tried to kill me (literally) for knowing his secrets. As of today, I'm still here.
😂😂😂😂😂 lying ass
Damn dude. What’s your story? I’d love to know.
The most painful part is that Tommy thinks Norton wants to help Andy
right. he's so innocent. it's like if the Warden killed a dog
I had a feeling Brooks would die, and it fucking tore me up. But this death was so unexpected. It was sad, but not as sad as Brooks though
This was sadder for me. He had his whole life ahead of him. Brooks at least had some semblance of living a full life.
The symbolic offer of a cig before an unexpectant death
It’s pretty obvious why the warden wants this discovery to be vanished, because Andy is doing a lot in the prison for the guards in terms of handling tax money for them and all kinds of other stuff.
Mostly because Andy was laundering money for the warden
I don't think the warden gave two shits about Andy handling taxes for the guards but I'm sure he didn't want his personal slave money launderer seeing the light of day.
@@danielk9067 I forgot to mention that he was like a personal banker for the warden, thank you
@@bigdmoment8878 yo comrade wtf are you doing here if xi jinpooh discovers you watching stuff about freedom you will lose all your social credit
saw the movie a couple years ago, since then none other has top this twist, the first time I saw this scene it really caught me by surprise
The red wedding got me
I remember watching this the first time. When Norton offered Tommy the cigarette, I knew he was done. Norton looked at the inmates with contempt. He never would have done this unless it was a ruse.
One of the most sharp shooting scenes ever so real and felt.
Tommy was my favorite character. It was hard for me to see him go like that
This movie showed us that the guards and the warden who are supposed to be upholding the law and keeping order are far more crooked and criminal then any of the prisoners at Shawshank.
Warden Norton is a great villain. It's so satisfying seeing him get his comeuppance in the end.
It's sad because he truly was going on the right path and he knew in his heart he could have helped Andy. But he didn't know the first thing about corruption
His judgement shall cometh and right soon....
Gods word is always true and never passes away
So many people miss the fact he was let out of the prison to be executed whereby looking like he was trying to escape.
Really feel for the warden here. Staying up nights.
He's such a great, upstanding, God fearing, Christian man. He's only doing his Christian duty to keep a man who murdered his wife and her lover behind bars where he belongs. Tommy was obviously a punk greaser liar.
He even cut a hole in his bible so he could take the passages with him wherever he went! What a great guy...
@@Deadpool_64 his judgement cometh and that right soon..
@@Deadpool_64 Shouldn't have cheated in the first place, you white knight dumbfuck.
@@normiesaredegeneratesthatn3331 Are you actually serious? I was being as sarcastic as I possibly could. But, talking shit from behind a keyboard is commonplace around here.
One of the realistic situations in this movie ,. If you mess with a money hungry man , you never know how far he’ll go .
I saw that movie the first time, when this scene came up I already knew something is not right. In the middle of the night, warden sees you , offering you a cigarette , yeah thats a death sentence if you are a crooked warden.
I wonder what happened to Tommy's family. Red mentions that he had a baby girl and wife on the outside which is probably what caused him to change.
This scene almost reminds me of the scene from Goodfellas where Joe Pesci's character (also named Tommy) went into a house expecting good things (namely getting made), not knowing that he would be killed instead. Frank Darabont must have really liked that movie!
I think it’s really effective cinematography when Hadley steps backwards after shooting Tommy, and the light coming from the window illuminates him so we can see who he is.
I was like "HOLY SH*T NO!"
I like how the criminals have more honor than the law. Brilliant.
All I know is that warden should have gotten on Oscar
Its so cool how the way the warden talks can be either be twken as him being a good person and evil person so when you're suprised that he killed tommy yiu realise the meaning of the things he said
"I'd like to think that the last thing to went through the Wardens head, other than that bullet, was the wonder how the hell Andy Dufresne ever got the best of him"
And to think he intentionally had him murdered just to keep Andy guilty is a sign of an unquestionable heartless sociopath. He was no better than all the prisoners.
I loved this movie. It made me very emotional and I’m not the kind of guy that gets that way
It's a movie about two men becoming brothers.
I’ve never hated a movie character more than I did warden norton. He was a despicable, vile, coward. The type of villain that takes hope away from those who deserve it, the kind of villain that spits on and steps on his fellow man just because he can
I remember being so clueless n innocent as a kid watching this "Aw Warden's actually a good man and cares about Andy. He just wants to make sure Tommy is telling the truth!" 😂
lmao
The warden was one of the most despicable characters in movie history. What a great acting job!
Just when you thought the Warden was a good man, then you come to realize he’s evil to the core
"Just give me that chance.." RIP Tommy. Good lad.
Such a tragedy. But at least Andy got to avenge Tommy when he escaped. Tommy went to Heaven, and the warden went to Hell.
NORTON
Would you be willing to swear before
a judge and jury...having placed
your hand on the Good Book and taken
an oath before Almighty God Himself?
TOMMY
Just gimme that chance.
NORTON
That's what I thought.
Norton and Hadley are much more evil than all Shawshank prisoners combined! He knew that Andy was innocent but he decided to keep him so he can get away with his crimes.
+Tavell Clinton Norton & Hadley are both dead
Lyle Plummer Jr. Hadley was arrested and were getting ready to arrest Warden Norton when he killed himself rather then see himself go to prison
And that I can't abide. How bout you Hadley can you abide it?
Is the brief little music interlude available anywhere? I don't see it on the soundtrack.
Been looking for it as well lol
You found it yet?
the track is Kid Passed / Wild Injuns, took a while for me to find it too but its on like an expanded OST version
link
ua-cam.com/video/vpk9PTnOl-Y/v-deo.html
Most TV versions only show Hadley fire two shots, but still show Tommy on the ground with four holes in his back.
Imagine if he accidentally shoots warden lol
Nah the warden walked away before he started shooting. But those bullets went right through tommy, so they may have hit him too if he stayed there
Hes always coming out of the darkness. His right eye is darkened in this scene too
Bob Gunton was brilliant in this film
Passed the exam with a C+ average, had a girlfriend and kid, and was going to get out in another year.
That’s what hurts the most.
This would be covered up as him trying to escape too, dirtying his name again, until the reveal of the crimes.
He gave him a cigarette, he’s not a total monster 😂
My jaw completely dropped first time I saw this
Tommy was a good kid.
The music......just brilliant.
I would have loved to see warden Norton and Byron Hadley go back to Shawshank as prisoners, I'm sure they would both win as fresh fish
I think they didn't even report Tommy's death because that would have launched an immediate investigation and the state police would deduce fairly quickly that it was an execution and not an escape attempt. Plus, I think in the ledger there was proof that warden 'paid' Hadley to execute Tommy, as further corroborating evidence against him. Brutality was one thing, but even for Hadley acting as a contract killer seemed out of character at first glance. Glad they both got their comeuppance though.