Could DiEM25 Solve Europe's Democratic Deficit? The New Party Explained - TLDR News
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DiEM25 are a new European party with national parties across the continent. They're a left-wing party, but unlike many others, they are fundamentally Eurosceptic and want to make major changes to the EU. So in this video we explain DiEM25, discuss their policies and if they have any chance of getting things done.
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6:00 "across the country" we did it boys, eu has federalised.
Good one.
I literally dream of a federalised eu stop getting me excited
It seems like British UA-camrs are becoming the "new Americans" (USA citizens, not the rest of all Americans, those know their geography) in terms of geography....
Yeah I noticed that one too.
@@meretricioussimp7759 I wish the big question of our time wasn't Europe yes or no but rather Volt's Europe or DiEM25's Europe.,
Do a comparison between Volt and Diem25 please!
They don't match, their stance on immigration is opposite, VOLT want free corridors for immigrants, Diem25 want to restrict migration more.
@@buddy1155 That's one issue
@@buddy1155 well Volt want to reduce immigration through legal action, I mean with Volt policy all the economic migrant will be stopped and olso a lot of refugees will have problems
@@fabiocavaleri
You probably haven't read their manifesto, VOLT want to have open corridors so anyone can safely enter the EU without any hurdles and they want to be generous with the issue of permanent resident status.
Frontex must be broken down and build up from the bottom into an organisation that support the movement of immigrants.
My impression is that Volt is a much more liberal political entity, they seem to enjoy free market and don't advocate for heavy public control on the economy; they also seem care more about civil rights and less about social and economic rights for European citizens. Diem25, even when discussing the same themes as Volt, focuses more on criticizing the aspects of capitalism that are causing the issues we have to face, and is therefore much more politically radical: they advocate for a much deeper reform of the status quo.
You know shit's about to get real when Slavoj Zizek supports it
so on and so on and so on
< sniffs nervously >
That man is the equivalent of the Joker, he flips his positions way more often than keeping it. Does it so much so that at one point you don't know what he stands for. That's how I got it out of him at least
@@KGDHMF anti-centrism
@@KGDHMF that's a useful tactic when seeking revolution
Instead of just removing the EU and creating chaos, a group to reform the EU from within. Building/improving is always the most difficult path and it doesn't bring many votes ..👍👍👍👏👏👏
Bem já fazia falta
Luis Machado. I have given up any hope that the EU can "be reformed from within". This train has been and gone. My view.
they are commies.
As an Italian member of DiEM25 since the start I can say that there has been significant growth over the last two years. It’s online community and decentralization of provincial chapters is a big pull.
The EU Parliament is directly elected, has equal powers to the Council and its approval is needed for the Commission President to be appointed. What more do you want?
Ok, che io è la prima volta che ne sento parlare invece ? 🤔
Quando sono venuti fuori da noi ?
@@AB-zl4nh Democracy and transparency are easy buzz words to attract voters. They don't mean a thing but do resonate well with voters as they have no idea what the EU is doing.
Not the fault of the EU but people can't be bothered to look up what they are doing.
It worked very well with the Brexit parties just tell many times that EU are non elected Bureaucrats and people will believe it.
@@AB-zl4nh he want more power for national governments and then to elect AfD, fratelli and other populist extremists in power in member states and break it. That's the goal they have although they say otherwise
Their immigration stance pretty much guarantees they will never get significant power.
As Italian i fully approve this party. My nation has had dumb politicians for like 40 years and I'm tired to see my own country being ridiculized and made fun of when it can be one of the richest nations on Earth. We need another political culture
Yeah, I’m happy that for the first time we have a prime minister that is well known and respected, and I’m scared with what will come next
If it makes you feel any better, we don't know anything about your government in the states.
I'm italian too. This party is only a joke. It cannot be a pan-european party becuase northern countries are strongly against the transfer of money to the South, as asked by this party.
Also Varoufakis failed in 2015 negotiation beetween Greece and Eu and he failed because he doesn't dare to ask for a Grexit from eurozone.
@@bazzfromthebackground3696 yeah but you don't know anything about anyone elses government and lots of you seem confused by the whole subject
@@bazzfromthebackground3696 good. We're still seen as the country of Vespa, Pizza, Dolce Vita, ecc in many countries. All things that belong to the 60's, the decade when we became industrialized with an avg GDP growth of 6%. Let this perspective stay as it is
Sounds like common sense to me.
There is a level at which political issues should be decided. Street lighting levels and maintenance should be a very local issue but high way lighting effects many more and needs a higher level. Types of lighting systems for roads really needs a decision at (at least) a National level but energy management and the environment is a global issue that needs to be openly discussed at European level.
See what I mean?
That’s what binding treaties with teeth are for. If the 27 members of the EU wanted a federal system/closer political union, that is certainly what they would have contracted for in the first place. But we all know that is not what the 2 billion people in Europe wanted, nor what they would except.
If you want to be a European citizen, rather than a citizen of Spain or Denmark or of Romania, then sure it’s going to sound great. If you’re a poor country like Greece and you suddenly have access to UBI and get to spend like a sailor on furlough, sure it’s going to sound great. If you’re from a nation who doesn’t have your own defense capabilities, like Portugal, it sounds great.
And even if we disagree with the nuts and bolts philosophically, which is perfectly reasonable, the whole “common culture“ aspiration is 100% chilling.
@@editorrbr2107 Portugal has its own military but it is under the Nato requirement.
I mean, that is generally how politics usually works.
Local authorities for local problems... The problem arises, when you find out, that street lighting levels influence animal behavior and can therefore cause problems for the ecosystem. And suddenly, a decision that seems obviously "local", is not local anymore at all, as the ecosystem is a higher level problem. This kind of stuff can make it hard to understand why some things are being decided on a higher level and make it sound like someone makes decisions, that they shouldn't be able to make.
Whether that is what is going on or not, we have to look at from case to case, but shouldn't dismiss in any direction without looking into the reasoning.
@@Kirgoss Many choices are made at the wrong levels. Education was all down to the Local Authority when I was at school. Now National Government makes nearly all the choices and the LA just takes the blame. That's not democracy!
Editor RBR Republic of France, UK creepy. As someone who is Irish I don’t want to see my country go into another union like the UK.
Only one problem, Varoufakis didn't win any seats in the lower house. Because Greece doesn't have a lower and upper house. We have a Parliament. Just that.
Huh? Parliaments can have an upper and lower houses.
@@Red1Green2Blue3 he is right, Greece has a unicameral parliament so no lower and upper house.
Parliaments can have 1 or 2 houses. You still have a Parliament.
@@TheAllMightyGodofCod I didn't say he was wrong, I was drawing attention to his non sequitur "we have a Parliament", Parliaments can have an upper and lower house so that statement doesn't make any sense in the context of what he was saying.
@@Red1Green2Blue3 don't mince words, they just have a parliament, no houses.
Minor precision about Melenchon's party position about the EU: In 2019 they didn't say they wanted to leave the EU (the idea is unpopular in France right now), but to stop respecting the European treaties until the EU adapts to their demands. It's not very far from leaving and arguably even worse so saying he wants to leave the EU is probably a good summary but that's not exactly his position. I wanted to make that precision to explain that even though he doesn't want to really leave, his party is indeed strongly opposed to the EU.
"opposed to the EU" basically in the same way as DiEM25 (opposed to the non democratic structure, to the weight of the (money)lobbies and to the politic that EU supports) but not to the original idea of an European "come together"
@@jeromebeauverd1725 *this*
It's not the position anymore but it was in his 2017 presidentielles program. As soon as it becomes popular again (i.e British situation stabilises and North of France gets to recover from the blow) I'm sure it'll be on the program again.
Besides Yanis, the other co-founder is Croatian philosopher Srećko Horvat, whom you failed to mention.
That's right Leon!
and it is not a party :D
Nobody cares.
In fact I’ve noticed the same thing . Just finished “Poetry from the future” and I hope something will move people zombie state . One thing DIEM25 shall do is to fight ignorance, fake news and promote free education , art and give everybody a chance to do what they like
Yeah, not mentioning him is sloppy. Yanis would be the first to say it's not all about him. That said, this is a great video. The graphics actually help.
I'd personally quite like to see a video on Yanis. I don't know much about him, and I think he seems le a very interesting political player.
Check out Diem25 ‘s UA-cam Channel, lots of cool stuff with Yanis
He's quite an interesting and outspoken guy
The fact that Lewica is part of DiEM25 surprises me, since I believe this is not a known fact in Poland. Watching Polish politics it seems like Lewica were the ones agitating for federal Europe and parties like Law and Justice supported this idea of more powers of member states. This makes me observe more Lewicas moves to look for connections with DiEM25
Yes as a supporter of Lewica, I don’t think they make their ties to DiEM25 very public. I’m not sure why, as I think it would interest a lot of people.
Well unless I am mistaken DiEM25 is supporting a very powerful federal Europe if also one that has commitments to it's citizens and a strong requirement for transparency. Essentially strong but diffrent.
I also didn't know that. Let alone they were the most successful DiEM25 member
That's because DiEM25 isn't actually a thing beyond a logo on a paper. DiEM25 is hardly even a party.
Just a quick note as a leftist Pole myself - from what I know only Razem is a part of DIEM25, not the whole Lewica coalition. They also only elected MPs cuz with alliance with Democratic Left Alliance (SLD) which they strongly opposed years prior
Varoufakis also built the "hat economy" of Team Fortress 2.
😂😂 good one
@@demo9299 Not kidding - he worked for Valve prior to becoming Greece's Finance Minister
@@demo9299 literally true. He’s an economist and for a time he was working for Valve to help set up in game economies
@@Mkoivuka 🤯, good damn it's true. I learned something new today
@@markhaus Mind-blowing, I didn't know it until today .thanks for sharing 👍
They have intresting ideas. I think I'm more of a Volt person but if these guys do better at building support for reform throwing my lot in with them is not an impossiblity.
Same.
@Cool Cat Volt as i understand it want to move more power away from the commission and towards the parliament who are chosen by the people, this will help make the EU more democratic. I also understood that they support for an example the spitzcandidate system which will directly help to bring transparency to the EU.
@Cool Cat I could be wrong but they are aligned with the ALDE group who are pushing these things.
Volt is too centrist. It's too friendly towards the current EU governmental structure, which is way too friendly to the wealthy and manages to anger almost everyone through its idiotic political moves, threatening its own future.
@@kenlandon6130 We live in a sad world where not being extremist one way or the other pisses off everyone.
Thanks for talking about this. I'm gonna vote for them.
And cause the system to collapse as they would push the what little international competent companies left in EU to be pushed out, leaving EU with little to no natural growth and forcing governments to deal with the demographic crisis by destroying the fabric of EU society or/and by pumping out enormous amount of money making Euro loses it credibility and leaving EU with even higher cost for borrowing.
I really like the idea of Diem, shame its almost practically dead and not many people know about it
Not many people know of it cuz the media desperately avoid mentioning any group that pushes for actual change, if you expect something to become so big that mainstream media will talk about it often so more people know it you ll be very disappointed.
I saw you on another video..
Anyone know any good Golf courses in Brussels where I can watch open air Freemasonry.
We're far from dead ;)
All promotion helps, of course. Help us spread the word?
@@DiEM25official heck yeah, all my friends support DiEM as well as Razem in Poland, Im glad that they are a part of your project
I can see them getting along with the European Pirate Parties
These parties are mainly in the Northern countries, letting the northern countries pay for the national debt of southern countries is not very popular.
@@buddy1155 You overestimate how strong such sentiments are with the people. It's the politicians in northern Europe who are complaining not the people.
Czech Pirate Party MEP Mikuláš Peksa is a member of DiEM25. But I'm not sure if the connection goes beyond that.
@@DaDunge Solidarity really depends on the situation, Diem25 want simultaneously get rid of austerity.
Spent more money and let others pay for the debt you already got ... the population in Northern countries wouldn't like that, especially if they are the ones that can pay for the debt of Greece and Italy.
I don't really think that pirate parties fit into DiEM25, they are not really left wing economically and most of the time centrist or moderately classic liberal
Thanks for covering this topic! I didn’t know about it yet, so it’s great to see this is a thing!!
As an American, I wish we had multiple parties like those in Europe have.
Brains make the real difference, not the number of parties. Just look at my country, Italy: it's a goddamn mess
You do, you just don't vote for them
@@outerspace7391 Their system is different though. You cannot directly vote for the small guys. It's really stupid to be honest.
@@outerspace7391 Because if you do have a preference for one party over the other big one, there is no reason to vote for a small party, since they won't get any influence because of the system.
@@akmil807 You do realize most of the countries are like this?
Some points are vague, and I should probably read into what they actually mean and how they aim to achieve this. But as I see it, it shouldn't necessarily limit itself to being left-wing. Some of these issues are centrist enough to attract support from right wingers.
They should not change, they can win over "centrists" as is. Moving to the right economically would defeat the entire point of the project, to be different from the status quo. We do not need to appeal to right wingers.
@@zenegg99 I think his point was that it can appeal to the Center without changing its policies, and therefore shouldn't be called '"Left-wing" as it's keeping away potential voters.
As far as I know DiEM25 doesn't call itself Left-wing. In Greece at least, where the associated party has gotten into parliament, it followed a big-tent strategy in the election, only requiring espousal of some basic principles for a person to become part of the party and run in the elections. It ended up having candidates opposed to the Prespa Agreement (this position being considered Right-wing in the Greek spectrum), and at least one Classical Liberals who considered modern Capitalism corrupted.
Only Left-leaning candidates ending up being elected, probably because that was the part of the political spectrum most of the voting base associated with, but the party always remained open.
I see people messing if up in the comments: DiEM25 supports a federalized, democratic EU which enables citizens their individual self-determination free from the pressures of neoliberalism and the post-2008 economic status quo (i.e. austerity enforced by unelected bureaucrats). They do NOT advocate for a more loose union, but are instead fighting to stop the EU's further disintegration caused by its failed economic policies and technocratic political violence.
Did you even see the video you are commenting about?
austerity was not forced on elected bureaucrats. was imposed by the prime ministers of the countries that asked for a bailout after the 2008 crisis. the bailout had conditions and one of them was to solve the country's economic problems, which in the case of Portugal, Greece, Spain and Italy were regimes of high social spending above. the capacity of the state in the least productive people in society, that is, civil servants and the elderly.
leaving the youngest aside, unemployed and unable to innovate.
it was also imposed by the international monetary fund, which is not even related to the eu. basically what was intended was that the countries of southern europe would stop spending more than the taxes collected, leading to an increase in debt. The policies of this party are contradictory. how can the debt emergency be resolved while ending austerity?
however small, there has to be austerity. austerity only means solemnity and seriousness. a state that spends more than it produces is not sustainable. and if the debt is not invested in increasing national productivity, (which is usually not the case in our countries, we all know that a lot of our money runs off via corruption and inefficiency)
lets take the example of italy:
how to solve italy problem? I resolve: create a committee to reassess the bureaucracy of the public system to facilitate business creation and foreign investment. simplification of the tax system, to make it easier to pay and harder to hide. reduction of the thousands of unelected bureaucrats who feed on the Italian public system and make the government highly inefficient and oblivious,
why can't italy solve your problems? because of a complex and unstable national policy that makes solving the country's problems an impossible task, since few prime ministers have finished their mandate.
@@Duck-wc9de I have no idea why there are so many people that point to the so called "unelected bureaucrats" as the evil of this age. You can't elect every single public servant. And even if it was possible, everything would be extremely inefficient because for every election you would have some people that got elected that have to learn what they need to do. And furthermore, the vast majority of these bureaucrats don't choose anything. They simply do the ordinary work, the decisions are taken by elected officials.
For real, these "unelected bureaucrats" are the scapegoats for the last decades.
If you have no idea how a state and his administration works and you feel that something is not right, just say "those damn unelected bureaucrats" in the same way people that still live in the '90s say "those damn youngsters with their damn phones". Please, just stop.
Mate, without technocratic policies many countries including italy and russia would have collapsed. Also there have been almost zero innovation in europe when compared to US which has a smaller population and much much more neo liberal system. Which means EU is failing because it not as economical liberal as it should be not because it had old remnants of liberalism still in places from 19th century that is what is running the union right now not destroying it.
I did not get how fighting debt and borrowing massive amounts are compatible.
I think the implications of their plans are that they borrow the €2.5 trillion over the five years for the explicit purpose of investing it into feasibilie and high-paying jobs, so that the GNI of the nations across Europe would be able to pay it back from the surplus of said new and high-paying jobs.
On paper, it's not exactly an irrational idea; it's a pretty straightforward investment model, but it's waaaay too optimistic and vague. That's a colossal shit-ton of money to invest over a short span of time on jobs that do not, and potentially will not exist by the time you've blown all your money.
Idk if I'd go so far as to call it “fiscally irresponsible” (I'm not at all an economist), but the practicality of it seems overly optimistic.
Easily: borrow heavy and then refuse to pay your debts.
He even proposed perpetual bonds for Greece.
Reading comments here, saying DIEM is an interesting party scares me.
It's not the same thing to borrow from a private bank or another country and to borrow from your own Central Bank.
The way it is intended is to issue EU bonds which would sell like hot cakes, cause they'd backed by countries like Germany and the Netherlands and have high returns, which would soak up the MASSIVE savings sitting idly in company hands and then use that money to invest. Boosts the economy, creates long term quality jobs and even the rich guys make a buck off of the bonds.
Win win.
Plus, print more money like the US, China, Japan, etc. People think it's a bad thing, but in deflationary times like this, the EU is the only idiotic entity not doing it.
@@hamlet557 and then they said that only us Greeks were stupid for supporting similar parties back then. Here you have people from Italy to Scandinavia advocating for Varoufakis. I am tending to presume, that people do not really get the government they deserve :)
@@ljubomrx read Hayek.
DiEM25 is fantastic movement, as is the Progressive International, of which it is a founding member. I hope it grows rapidly as we emerge from the Covid crisis!
While I do want a federal Europe and agree with some of the points, I don't want progressivism, I want a more nationalist and conservative Europe. So... I'm kinda split on them.
Thank you Paul, your support is really appreciated.
This is extreme populism. OMG can't believe people really believe un this. This is like saying: I'm going to end all workd's poverts, wars and everyone will be rich. 5 years old Disney movie mentality.
@@octavianpopescu4776 how can you have a federal europe, and a nationalist europe at the same time? Do you know what nationalism is? Are you sure you think on the basis of what is optimal to Europe, and not just Romania? :)
@@herculeskoutalidis1369 Just because a lot of people say they're mutually exclusive doesn't mean it's true. It's dependent on the nation, where you draw the line between us and them. I see all Europeans as being one group, so that's the nation for me. I see unification as beneficial for everyone, both on the local level, but also on the greater European level. I'm advocating for civic nationalism, not necessarily ethnic nationalism. As you know there are many types of nationalism.
Nationalism values independence and sovereignty. I know that if I'm small, others will impose their will on me... Americans, Russians, Chinese. It's a dog eat dog world, the big fish eat the little fish. But if I join forces with the rest of Europe, I will be part of the big fish group, then the foreigners will have to negotiate with an equal, not a subordinate. That's what independence and sovereignty are about. Remember the Cold War, Americans and Soviets playing their games with our lives/countries? Pawns aren't independent and sovereign. That was us... both East and West. Sure, life was better for Western pawns, but a pawn is still a pawn and it's always dependent on the whims of the player. I want us to be a player, not a pawn.
And look at our culture. Yes, we have a great cultural past... but what about the present? We're just copies of the Americans. We follow their trends... not a bad thing in and of itself, but it leaves a mark, we become less European and more American. And it would be the same with any large power... it happens to be the Americans, but it could be the Russians or Chinese just as easily. Or look at science or research... Americans lead, we merely follow. I don't want us to follow, I want us to stand on our feet and lead ourselves and rediscover our own values, what made us us...
Varoufakis was Greek Finance minister when the ECB President Christine Lagarde was the IMF President, so I think even though back in 2015 it didn't work out for political reasons, she holds his opinions in high regard and listens to him in questions concerning economics.
This guy has no vision but a Marxist vision. Of the charts. Not better then any populist.
@@ai-d3982 how is what he said Marxist? Did i miss a part of the video?
@@MrSeal-oy3fu This guy is not new in the political landscape. He is a marxist at best.
@@MrSeal-oy3fu it's not in the video but Yanis Varoufakis, is a self proclaimed Marxist he has mentioned it in several interviews
@@PabloTBrave Cant take serius a Marxist in XXI, I can understand a social democrat, but a Marxist? wtf, or the dude is populist or a dummy
The main difference between DiEM25 and VOLT is that one wants the EU to be a union of sovereign states, whereas the other wants the EU to be a federal union composed of states, respectively.
I am Swiss and little Switzerland already is a confederation of over 20 states with 3 official languages. It works well. Each state (we call them cantons) has some degree of sovereignty, so the difference between DiEM25 and VOLT is not really that clear.
@@koantao8321 Then I guess the better thing to do is to have all other nations join Switzerland's confederation. Now you'll have more cantons, more languages! The unifying font will be Helvetica.
@@koantao8321 And yet 99.9% of the world can't name a single swiss canton even if their life depend it on it. Switzerland is some neutral Germans and French and a few Italians that's it
@@syockit yes please !!!!
@@robertabella1806 Valais, Bern, Geneva, Vaud, Ticino, Fribourg. and im not even European, im your average Saudi college student.
Fun fact: Allies of DiEM25 have both a chance to become the president of Chile and already lead local governments in Namibia.
Well, Varoufakis' goal is to make Europe like a south American states, just bigger
Which is super important for their goals in the EU... how exactly?
@@Doso777 There is not only the EU...
Also it helps to have allies in other parts of the world and it shows that they are able to work with people from different cultures...
We need new political parties in the USA. Wish they would set up a branch here!
Thanks a lot TLDR for taking my suggestion.
Thanks for making that video.
Fun thing is that no one in Poland, left-wing academics and political nerds aside, has ever heard of DiEM25. I guess their strategy differs here from that of Volt. DiEM works more as a pressure group, it uses experts, shows some simmilarities to think-tanks, not in need of building a big brand name.
Actually Lewica Razem cooperates with DiEM25, if I am not mistaken.
@@j.raskou4928 as it was mentioned in the video already, that’s Why i dropped that part
This actually sounds good, I didn’t expect that!
Thank you!
@@DiEM25official when you talk about culture, I assume you're looking for ways for nations to preserve their cultures while still enjoying lowered trade barriers, rather than moving to some kind of homogeneity?
This is extreme populism. OMG can't believe people really believe un this. This is like saying: I'm going to end all workd's poverts, wars and everyone will be rich. 5 years old Disney movie mentality.
@@poltergeist7621 I'll take left populism over Nazi shit any day of the week.
@@MrTaxiRob literally there are not nazi party in the world since the end of WW2. I wish there were just for you to see what's real nazis are, not just everything that is not left-wing 🤡🤡🤡
As a right winger I can agree with some of their points the biggest ones being if we are going to keep the EU it NEEDS reform to give the Parliament more power and to reduce corruption. Basically they need to scrap the EU commission COMPLETELY
Chompsky and Žižek are on board? I'm sold.
I don’t like Euroscepticism, but I do like DiEM25’s Soft-Euroscepticism because I do honestly agree with many of their ideas, and I personally support a Federal Europe.
Am I in the UK waking up to watch this, or in America with insomnia. The world may never know
Well I'm watching from NZ where it's 1am tomorrow
youre in america with insomnia
Exciting days ahead!
thank you, great video as always
Anybody who still believes that voting will change anything must wake up.
well not voting is guaranteed to fail
this is the most exciting thing happening in politics right now thanks for covering it
Seemed interesting until the more humanitarian migration policy pilar. While I’m usually centre-left leaning, the issue of migration at least where I live caused major political losses recently. Even if I agreed with continued efforts to accept more migrants, I rather sacrifice this left-wing idea for the greater cause and win over more people to the left.
Taking that approach is a necessity for dealing with Europe's Rising Far Right. If left wing parties give up the field to Reactionaries then it's reactionary who decide how the issue is discussed and how to deal with it. Unless immigration policy is proactive and humanitarian, immigration will be used as a focal point for reactionaries and reactionary parties to grow. Not to mention that fighting climate change and encouraging peace is objectively one of the most cost effective ways of preventing mass migrations.
Giving up on this is has helped the rise of the Far-Right. While sending away refugees was a fringe position to openly hold post-WWII, restricted to Far-Right parties, due to various circumstances it became mainstream, making them look a lot more sensible.
The issue is of course much more complicated, and some intricacies are tackled in DiEM25's programme.
@@ArcAngle1117 and @ger-i:
DiEM25 is not "pro immigration": we 1st want to work on solving the root cause why people have to move away of their home. Until this is done and show some effect, we just can't help but show basic humanity to people in great need and urgency.
After this balance is found again (nobody forced to move because of in human livelihood) please keep in mind that human being (at least a GREAT share of them) always wanted to move, to discover or see how it is on the "other side of the mountain/river/ocean/desert/..."
Lewica is a coalition of the Social-Democrats (biggest one in the alliance), Social-Liberals and Razem. Lewica won 13%, but only Razem belongs to DiEM25.
When Slavoj Zizek supports something it scares me...
Idk about him lol . Is he like Soviet union sympathiser ?
@@ChadPANDA... yes
@@ChadPANDA... He is a supporter of some kind Marxist's ideology.
@@ChadPANDA... he is crazy that's the jist of it
@@ChadPANDA... no, he said that it was a total failure.
Make a video that goes more in details about Volt Europa's policies.
They already did.
Edit: That was TLDR NEWS EU.
@@brokkrep yes but i want one that goes into more details
As a volt member, this is incredibly interesting to hear
What are your stances on immigration
@@Doss3332 watch tldrs volt video
@@Doss3332 do you mean mine personally or those of volt? Those of volt are on the website and much better formulated than I can do here. Personally I think strict quotas are quite contradictory to the European human rights treaty. You cannot specify beforehand how many refugees are maximally allowed, while also stating that any refugee with certain requirements has the right to apply for asylum. I prefer a mktr humanitarian approach, that is also mentioned in this video.
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Well I don’t want them (European federalists)
That sounds fantastic... where is the catch?
Great video, thanks.
In Greece this party is called "DaY 25" (MeRA 25)
This whole party seems very pog
I like the sound of them, I think they'd have success in Ireland if our political sphere wasn't already pretty crowded. Might be able to align with Sinn Féin though, that'd be pretty huge for them
I doubt it Sinn Féin probably will never want Ireland in a Federal Europe
Great video!
Around 1992/3, while in Uni, over a Christmas break, group of us composed of Turks, Greeks, Arabs, a few Americans, and other Europeans where having a discussion very similar to what is implied here. I basically said, the EU will fail unless it can develop of united Economy, Strong Central Government, and a single Military. I went on to explain one of the reasons the US Constitution was written, and it was to solve most of these problems. Admittedly it was easier in what became the US, but I think the argument still stands,
The Federalist Papers apply just as aptly to Europe as they did to the 13 colonies.
this exactly
@@pwp8737 The writing of The Constitution showed the short comings of the Federalist Papers.
It's good to see that diem25 is getting mainstream
Last time you talked about democracy in Europe and a place where we could voice our opinion. I looked for it, found it. And I hadn't the time to make an art installation about Europe in Strassbourg as was suggested.
This is a GREAT choice of topic. Kudos to everyone who suggested it. I probably would not have heard of Diem25 otherwise.
why dont they form an alliance with Volt? Sure, they are way more left wing than Volt, but I think they would compliment each other pretty well.
Pls do video about parlimentary elections in czech republic
We voted for ΜεΡΑ 25 here în Greece.
There is no left wing right wing struggle, but an 1%ers vs 99%ers fight.
And with the automatization looming big over us, there is an emergency that cant be ignored.
Thank yoy for the diem video❤
Seems like a good cause. I’m pro EU but I do think they have to be careful. There is a lot of anti-EU sentiment across the continent and if further integration pushed any other big states to leave then the EU could be in trouble.
I would say there is a anti-eu policy and politicians sentiment , while the people want and enjoy what the union gives , they hate the hypochrisy and bureaucracy that the politicians created .
@@ihatehandles3 That sounds more accurate to me, the idea of the EU is fine within its concept of the area is best when working to together but the issue is for countries like the UK, Spain and Italy for example which have blamed the eu for its own mistakes historically (UK), Spain has complained about it limiting them due to spending controls and Italy has a terrible history of "losing" money.
A lack of productivity I see...
TLDR, please do a video on either of three topic:
Olaf Scholz- The man is certainly (9 out of 10) Germany’s next Chancellor.
Stefan Löfven’s fifth cabinet- many Swedes complain the current cabinet is even more unstable than the previous one.
German Green Party’s Women Statue- Saarland fiasco.
Wouldn’t be so sure about Olaf Scholz though, the SPD is not in a single poll ahead of the CDU. The part is rising but hasn’t overtaken the CDU yet, but if they will, it still will be a very very close race
CDU and Greens have led such terrible campaigns that they managed to bring SPD from the dead 🤣🤣🤣
Just because there's one poll *currently* where the SPD is ever-so-slightly ahead, that doesn't mean it will be the same at election time. If there's no current major issue when votes are cast, people will just vote how they always voted. Not holding my breath for the CDU to lose.
That being said, why not talk about Scholz? Or make a video about all three German chancellor potentials.
@@drsnova7313 It’s not because of the polling. My German friends described it perfectly:
“While Annalena and Armin are digging their own graves, Scholz is using their dirt to solidify his own campaign.”
I myself pay lots of attention to European politics, and I do think that after Saarland fiasco and Armin’s laughter. Olaf Scholz is en route to be the next Chancellor of Germany.
Sold...Where are these guys, and how can I vote for them?
They don't run at national elections as Diem, that's a big difference with Volt Europa that use the same party everywhere
Great video as usual from you guys, Swedens prime minister Löfven just announced that he will be stepping down both as party leader and prime minister. Would love to see a video on the subject from you here on tldr. Cheers.
Sweden “Democrats” are playing your system
@@oscarosullivan4513 The main parties have created an open goal for the SD. The latest crime figures from the Swedish national statistical bureau confirm that there has been a huge cover-up by the authorities and media for about 15 years.
What cover up
@@oscarosullivan4513 The cover up of the ethnicity of the criminals. Just ordinary native born Swedes, we have been led to believe.
@@physiocrat7143 Thats because it is you fascist
Can't wait for someone to create Eiffel65 Party
It's blue and wants you to move your body.
When Chomsky endorses a party you know it's good
Didn't he endorse Khmer Rouge?
@@25thturtle48 He might have in a trolling sense
This is very, very interesting!
Varoufakis actually wrote the preface to my copy of the communist manifesto, nice
Considering they had no budget and were jsut a few people, getting into any parliament is a pretty big thing, expecting numbers to rise since unlike many parties they actually push for real change
Liimit migration within Europe but basically unlimited and mostly undocumented immigration from outside EU? I can see how that would improve democracy and transparency in the EU and improve the situation of those 20% of Europeans in poverty or in danger of it
Policies like that would make even Volt look like the more acceptable pan- EU platform.
Unlimited and mostly undocumented? How?
@@esajpsasipes2822 they want to end deal with Turkey and the moment it happens million or more ppl with no or limited proofs of identity will start their trek across the Balkan into Germany& co just like during the previous migrant crisis.
Or are we already denying it happened?
@@rehurekj it's a very personal view to consider it was a "crisis"... 2015 was a large proof of a great solidarity, in Germany as well as in many other parts of EU.
Before continuing to use this idea of a "crisis", please document it was one ahead of a very few single incidents; for example, white European young guys are at least same likely to perpetrate sexual aggression on women as migrants in teh same social situation are.
Then migration within EU is mostly abuse (like slavery) of people in urgent need, against local workers, in order to press labor cost; so this seems fair to me to really take action against this. Consequent is not that bad, if you consider coming back to the fair share that salary work had within distribution of earning in firm during the 1980's (moved in a great extent toward exaggerated share for capital revenue)
Most falls under the categories of "Sounds good..." and "...what exactly does that mean?"
We need a lot more information before we can swing behind the movement.
Hello from 2 AM on the U.S west coast!
Regregards from Poland!
Greetings from eastern EU.
With the exception of the cultural pilar, which is just incomprehensible by the video's queues, I do agree with everything else.
Yeah, I am very curious what they heck they are talking about with the cultural pillar. I wonder if DiEM is being intentionally vague. Head cannon: there are some members who are like "This is REALY important! We have to address the culture wars!" but then there are others who are like "If we say ANYTHING specific AT ALL we will be nailed to a cross." So the compromise is "Yeah, we need to come together and end the culture wars i guess!"
Interesting - the EU certainly needs reform. It doesn't sound like DIEM have a firm enough platform to do it though.
7:05 but this video is not linked down below :(
I would love to see this, however this is like there is likely no chance that this will happen in the next 4 years.
I wonder how they would plan to fix debt without borrowing more, as while they advocate for more spending , and in the long run theoretically possible, I hardly see how they would find other options.
The other option involving raising the monetary supply and inflation just seems dangerous.
Hopefully they can figure it out
This is no different from "How do we pay for it" to M4A in America when we Europeans "have paid for it" for a century. By this tragic monetary policy you mean the thing we've been doing at an unparalleled rate for the past 20 months with the world not ending? Either way it isn't even necessary, equivalent taxation and a wealth tax would do just fine and actually move the market that's been stuck at inflating the price of paintings, houses and blue chip stock so the wealthy get wealthier in a cyclic fashion.
They're suggesting borrowing on an EU level. Banking on that the EU is literally to big to fail.
The Left wing parties historically run much smaller deficits then the right wing ones, so I would not worry about that. Case and point: the Democrats and the Republicans - the USA deficit was always higher under Republicans.
At the same time the EU budget has been having surplus very often. So there is money and lot's of it in the system
I think there is a fundamental difference between crisis time and pure stagnation. It is conceivable to raise spending during a crisis but their plan is on a much longer time period and scale.
That combined with the other macro economic proposals , such as the UBD argued here which is all but a taxation on companies’ profits, makes me wonder on the theoretical impacts of that policy on employment. All in all, the argued policies appeal to a mix which seems unfeasable to me, but I could be mistaking
@@henriburg4450 I mean all of your concerns are based upon ancient economic theory. Increasing the supply of money is fine and will not cause any inflation at all as long as it's greater than economic growth, if you don't raise supply of currency to that level you will actually see demand pull inflation. However if you attempt to reduce aggregate demand you will most likely end up in a stagnation point where the economy produces way below it's potential on the Philips curve, this is what happened with IMF austerity measures at every point. A universal dividend, universal inheritance etc... All measures of reducing wealth disparities would make other AD inflating measures unnecessary as they would directly provide savings to most people or at least discretionary spending during periods of greater wealth growth. Ie, inheritance spikes (such as the boomer apocalypse) or periods of greater economic growth. Is it a tax? Yeah that's kind of the point, but that's how you maintain the capitalist system running and avoid millions dying due to the unavoidable ups and downs of the business cycle and consequently don't end up in Blade Runner 2021
sounds pretty good! i would be for it
Sadly there is nothing much there on my shopping list, which would include scrapping VAT across the EU, and the requirement of public sector to use open source/GNU software.
That "Universal Basic Dividend" sounds like what Alaska has where all Alaskans get money from the oil industry.
Kind of it’s from a social wealth fund.
Giving money to the people 👏
You lost me with the "more humanitarian migration policy"
Why? There’s many people who really wanna come here to work hard & build a better life for themselves and their families & you want to, checks notes, not let them in because?
DIEM25 seems like a really interesting party, they're kind off the alternative version of VOLT in a way. I hope tgat the two parties might find a way to work together for a stronger, fairer and greener Europe!
That's the problem with your European project. For you it consists in the total opening of the borders and in the excessive mixing of the populations in order to break the national identities and to create a false Western identity based on multiculturalism with English as common language. In short, your only objective is to transform Europe into a second United States.
It is sure that with this kind of projects more and more people are hostile to the European Union which is the jackal of Troy of these ideas. For me, a country like Hungary, with its migration policy, defends better than anyone else Europe, its civilization and its history.
@@Spallding75 first off, get with the times. Second off, why would the EU not support national or local culture? They even give a sizeable amount of money to cultural heritage and the maintenance of historic artifacts and heritage cites. And sure some people are growing more hostile towards the union but also a LOT of people are feeling more and more attached to it. Most certainly the younger generations.
Also let us not forget that the EU allows for massive amounts of prosperity and trade, and most importantly, peace and stability across Europe.
I get that you have a strong opinion about these matters, and that's fine. But please don't think that I agree with everything the EU does or wants, sure I am for closer ties and a stronger Europe, but I do disagree on a lot of subjects and am critical. Evrrything has a good and bad side my friend. ;)
Identities come and go, history is dynamic, fascism hiding under isolationist-conservative policies is BS along with its ponzi scheme followers, and a second US is not a bad thing because US is a hegemon...
@0 0 no..... I never said that. You really need to catch up on your reading mate. I said fairer, as in more democratic and listening to it's people and caring for each and every single one.
@0 0 alright, what about you take an aspirin, a nice cup of camile tea, and calm down a bit and then we can both go our seperate ways knowing that we both have an opinion and commenting on youtube comments is not going to change anybodies mind. Deal? Deal. Have a good one :)
Again where is that link in the description?
the 8th pillar sounds a lot like Brazil's pix system, anyone that has a bank account can use at any time of the day, free of charge, now I've seen when I go to a place like McDonald's they're literally accepting direct payment through pix, it's quite interesting
I love the idea companies and government borrow money from me directly and they pay me the interest instead of the banks plus I also get variable universal income after technologies developed using the money they borrowed from me. Fantastic idea. Too bad, Banks won't allow this to happen so easily and say, we are ok to be just the middle man and get a small fee for handling transactions only and potentially allow people to make more profit than us. Never going to happen.
You can already lean money to countries and companies, you just buy bonds
Sounds good, I agree with their criticisms, and I hope they will do well. Speaking of which, better look up which of the Slovak parties support them...
Wow, that party is actually very interesting and has some good points
2025 is for drafting the new constitution, not for implementing it.
I see a problem in diems25's structure as a bottom up movement.
Some member parties of Diem25 aren't really open about their membership in diem25 and people who vote for member party don't even know DIEM25 exists. Despite claiming that they have 138k members their twitter posts barely gets 10 likes. Yanis Varoufakis however gets thousands of likes. It feels like the whole movement is focused on just one single person.
It very much is. DiEM25 is a cult for Varoufakis stans
3:45
How transparency is supposed to work without destroying the EUs capacity to act is more complicated than I think people realize and would like to have seen a concrete proposal here.
You could also make a Video about the VOLT parties
It's only one European party with national chapters
They already did...
Lol there were 2 ads put in the middle of this vid by UA-cam...kinda ironic
Zizek, Chomski, Varoufakis, Horvat, Eno. Some huge names and intellects back this project. Far more inspirational than just another centrist non-stance party like Volt
DiEM sounds great
It sounds like what the stereotypical federal European superstate would be like. I'm from the federal American superstate though, so that's my naïve take.
@@eksortso what do you mean? Diem25 doesn't support the federalism of Europe and even have stated that they would support leaving EU if their demands aren't met
@@2hotflavored666 that's the joke.
@@Myname-cb9ru Oh shit you're right, misread the comment.
Absolutely onboard with a universal basic dividend.
With automation and AI we're rapidly advancing to a point where significant amounts of human labour is not only replaceable, but unnecessary.
We're advancing to a future where people don't need to work, but more than that, we're advancing to a point where there won't be any profitable work for humans to do. Companies won't hire people for roles automation can fill more cheaply and efficiently.
Shareholders can't be the only beneficiary of human progress. Measures need to be put in place now to give the general populace a dividend, eventually growing into comprehensive income as the need for human labour disappears.
If we don't start now, while human labour still has value, we'll get nothing from the corporations later, once it doesn't.
Okay I may have just found a political party I can get behind. You don't understand how buzzing I am.
If I were European, they'd get my vote!
Why!? It’s obviously nothing but mad dreams and Communism!
You can join the movement even if you're from outside the EU. You can decide how much you want to pay yourself. You can pay 0 euros a month and have access to the internal discussions and events, if you'd like. (:
@@peterfireflylund you call anything you dislike communism.
@@mr.p215 no, not all. Some things I don’t like, I call Islam. Some things I don’t like, I call plutocracy. Some things I don’t like, I call oligarchy. Some things I don’t like, I call incompetence.
This, however, is clearly Communism.
@@peterfireflylund Explain how literally any of these policies are "communism"
If they drop those migration plans they'd probably be a very appealing party.
7:00 Why you do this? I don't understand. Why say link in the description if your not gonna put it
The 5th pillar is a bit strange...
I can see the 5 Star Movement in Italy EASILY joining DiEM25.
They never truly were EU skeptics.
Yanis is simply brilliant in spech
3:50 - oh yeah, they want more immigrants from Africa and the Middle East. Not expecting a huge success in EU border countries.
DiEM25 sounds great and Slavoj, Chomsky and Yanis are legends ✊