I wasn’t into Yugi oh as a kid but I am now as an adult. I know plenty of people like that. The potential for a reboot is there. Pokémon did it successfully. Yugioh can too
I'm kind of tired of yugioh always being ultra futuristic, of course there was always those scifi elements with the holograms and all of that, but i really liked the focus on it being an egyptian ancient witchcraft Game being revived and accidentally becoming a hit
@@christopherb501it was there in GX and in the first half of 5D's, but during 5D's an incident occured that would make Konami decide to separate occult stuff and yugioh as far as possible. One of the VAs turns out was in a cult, and caused a lot of problem during 5D's, even causing major rewrites.
@@dizzydragon I think leaning into the game being an ancient game that used to be played around the ancient world after originating in Egypt, but something happened is an interesting long story arc to explore. It allows a reason for different sets and rules to exist, and a mystery for the show.
Cards on a table! Kids now are also REALLY into this shit right now. games like ZZZ are playing on this appeal now, kids are into Hipster shit like Cassette tapes and finding old screen less music players. Table Top role playing is also huge. I think a DM reboot would do gangbusters rn for real
It's not as popular an IP because the game is impenetrable for a newcomer. Back in the day you could buy a starter/structure deck and get a game going. Nowadays it's hyper competitive with overly complex mechanics and combos.
Structure deck we're hot garbage until mr3 atleast the curret problem is we don't get new structure deck fast enough and that they don't include enough staples in the TCG
@@davidjames6788 Those formats are already fuckn burnt. Specially goat, most people is moving over, only late adopters are still on Edison, but it won't last long
The anime made the game seem easier than what it ended up being. Not to say we need an anime to sell to newcomers, but it makes yugioh seem...nerdy, for lack of a better word.
Almost everyone I know that played Yugioh has either A. Moved onto new card games in a healthier and better state B. Stopped playing because the current state of Yugioh is just too complicated, convoluted and meta dependent. Almost everyone that has previously played I like to ask if they would return if an new format was made that reboots the game to play more like it did 10 years ago. Every single one said yes. They would return to a simpler form of the game. This speaks for itself but more than that, the game is in a terrible state for new comers. Its like stepping into the current season of a show thats been airing for 20 years with complex lore and story. Then expecting to understand anything. Of course you would be lost. You are stepping into water over your head and you cannot swim. Yugioh desperately needs a reboot and the community is begging for it. Take us back to simpler times.
the tcg community will be always be ignored, the game made most of its money from japan and asia. if you want changes go convince japanese players to rally the change, if you cant sorry buddy, youre playing a localized japanese game that was originally made for japanese audience, youre not the main target audience of the game.
Speed Duels kinda is that reboot though, it's far more casual, simpler, easier to get into. If you don't like that style of format and just want to play older Yugioh, you have formats like Goat and Edison, if you want automated play that makes the game a little easier to understand, Master Duel is there for you. There are options.
Ugh I feel this. I love buying the cards but I wish they gave more effort to speed duels so it can actually be a legit format people play. I am still eagerly waiting for Rush to appear in the west.
@@SonicLion2 Speed Duels isn't going anywhere, it's just that the product releases are being stopped, which is a good thing, they have nowhere left to go but into the 5D's era and I don't think they wanna do that, in its current state it only has Fusions and a card pool made up primarily of DM and GX stuff, which is about how it should stay in my opinion.
14:25 duelist kingdom rules weren't cheating, they were using a different set of rules because DK was set when the game existed purely as a form of shonen battle manga entertainment, battle city is when it started being about a physical card game
the dub also makes it confusing because they don't explain the part where mako moves his monsters' field positions to the opponent's side so it seems like the tide goes back beyond where it originally started, as opposed to just being reset to how it was before
True. It's basically a tabletop game like in the Manga. Heck, the Japanese original version tries its hardest to explain stuff even if the rules aren't coherent enough. The dub butchered it into just quips and one liners in-between characters because it was marketed to a different type of audience.
I say we continue on right where DSOD left off! There's still stories to tell with Yugi, Joey & perhaps a return of Kaiba all sporting their newest & latest support with a brand new fresh but familiar story!
I don't think this would be a good idea for 2 reasons: - Kaiba is probably dead and without the main trio it wouldn't feel right. - That movie was Takahashi's goodbye to the series and wouldn't feel right to retcon it into just another chapter instead of the finale it was meant to be.
Ok, but here is the problem: DSOD follows the manga continuity, and most Yu-Gi-Oh fans did NOT read the manga, how do you expect for most people to follow the story without being confused with the stuff that did not happen in the anime adaptation?, having a remake that actually adapts the manga is the only way a sequel like that could work
I think there could be a few more stories, but honestly DSOD got to a point where it felt like trying to continue the story would take it beyond the actual scope of the story and be a lot harder to make something that felt right. Compared to just the end of the Manga where there was still a lot of story to tell even though it hit the major points it needed to.
A few things. You could do another yugioh movie or mini series based on just Lil yugi winning battle city v2. Or a gx movie where he travels around to free duel spirits and faces a new big bad gets new support EXT. Lastly takahashi confirmed kaiba IA alive he made it back to duel Lil yugi again in a illustration
As usual, whenever yugitubers try to discuss a reboot/remake of the OG manga, they completely miss the point. People didnt watch the OG Yugioh for the card game, they watched the OG Yuguoh for the characters that just so happened to be playing a card game. No one ever brings up what new character arcs or stories they could tell, just like in this video, they always just mention lmao lets use new cards which will be old in a year with how fast YGO soft rotation gets. The videos already fucked when you even suggest Joey not have his sister be his motivation to win. That not only was what made you root for him even against Yugi but allowed his development to naturally go from "Using dueling as a means" to "Truly wanting to improve for the love of the game". I feel like one shouldnt invoke Takahashis's name when the guy clearly loved the story and characters he created over the actual card game. The former should be the focus, not the latter.
That's true, people don't usually watch the show because of the toys, they buy the toys because of the show. I remember nobody was buying Beyblades until the anime started airing. (There might be some exceptions, like some people might have been into building gunpla before they saw Gundam, or some people might get into the franchise through a videogame.)
It was mostly about the characters, story and cool monster designs. The game was also fairly simple to understand. Nowadays the focus is way too much on the game and the game itself is too complicated. The monster designs aren't as memorable either.
I will tell you a personal story as to why i think the game isn't as popular. I went to a yugioh night at a local game store. I wanted to start fresh and get a new card as i hadn't played in like 15 years. The owners didn't care (just not their game), but worst of all, players were not inviting. They were rude, impatient, and, just not a good time to be around. I left unhappy and kinda jaded.
Bro where I'm from, my card stores don't have yugioh. Some do but they Don't really have a variety of options to choose from. Heck! The only tournaments they hold there are Pokémon, magic, and one piece
Most card shops only carry MAGIC, Ygo isn't as popular as it used to be. The community is VERY inviting and will happily teach people, you just fell into a wrong crowd.
The first and last time I went to a yugioh tournament, I won my first match and then played a guy dressed in full golf attire that wiped me out with dragoon. I didn’t even know about that card. I had adapted my duel links deck to tcg and didn’t know about the meta lol
I genuinely believe they should remake Yugioh as a manga canon show. Think FMA Brotherhood. Like start from the beginning and then slowly transition into duel monsters. Also incorporate Yugioh R after battle city to transition into the ending of the show.
@@jx9700 bro the things they cut out didn't matter that's why they got cut it literally is tho the only thing cool they could do is make an anime about their engines everything else is just nostalgic crap cause grow ass men want their things they grew up with That's fing sad their are all these monsters that have cool lore they could do but all you loser just want a remake
@@jx9700 I get it your saying that the manga is different I'm saying I don't really care it's already been done do something else people love nostalgic stuff is so cringe
I think this convo is hard because without Takahashi, beyond a remake of the original series, I wouldn't really want to redo or expand the work involving his original characters and stories. I think a new series that explores the modern landscape of the game, or even a series that adapts the stories of the cards into an epic fantasy adventure would make for a great series overall. But thats me
You nailed it. The stories of the DM characters were all Takahashi and thinking anyone can do it better is insane. If we can't do it better, why do it? Yu-Gi-Oh is about growing and moving forward and the series did that by making new characters and stories that were amazing and worthy of the creator.
Yeah I agree as well Yu-Gi-Oh needs to tell the tales of the Duel Terminal and world legacy and all the other mini lore cards. And maybe follow the anime of modern kids/teens playing the game with modern decks like the OCG manga
While I do agree, I feel this will not revive the game whatsoever. The only one's who will have an interest in it would be modern players. They will see idk Zeus and continue watching for the new familiar monsters. While non/former fans will attempt to tune in, realize Yugi and Kaiba are nowhere to been in the new anime and simply turn the TV off. I would love the idea but I personally feel it wouldn't work, except to entertain those who are already fans and maybe some new fans.
@7thHourFilms I feel it can be done as to say if we can't when no one tried is off. It can be done but how likely I say pretty Low cause of the general interest in doing it. As the writing of sm dose have some heavy flaws that do need fixing but overall chances are low.
I've been aching for a revisit to the story pre-Duelist. Really nailing the horrors of the Millennium Items and the focus on a variety of games. Market it as "See the story of how Yugi first formed the Millennium Puzzle and the Shadow Games returned to the modern world!" "See why he's truly called The King of Games!" Really sell it as a prequel to the story most of the public know, including hints to future events. Imagery of Zorc and the Gods, flashes of Ancient Egypt. Cameos of future major players with an emphasis on game variety, but still selling the importance of Duel Monsters.
A lot of other card games have either a reboot or multiple formats or block, format or cards rotate. Yu-Gi-Oh is currently the only major TCG that does not do any type of rotation or have other playable format types at events.
@@SpartanTriggerI think some places now have started playing an Edison format on the side I’ve even seen some places do a goat format side event but not sure how many places do them or how often
It’s the perfect time for a reboot. There’s been a revival of so many other IPs recently. Plus, Yugioh focusing on the old school/nostalgic side of things has done wonders for sales in the TCG… I’m sure Konami is aware of this and would love to take advantage of this opportunity. I just hope they do it justice! Would also love a GX/5DS reboot at some point… just after the Duel Monsters era reboot
@@azurekite3870 In the Battle City arc of the manga, Marik gets the mark of the tomb keepers carved into his back and he also stabs his father to death. Both of those things were censored in the Japanese version of the anime and it aired with no issues. They can do the same for the rest of the scenes that are too violent to show.
i think anything less than a faith adaptation of the manga is a huge disrespect to takahashi’s memory. he deserves a faithful 1:1 adaptation of his work and not* the censorship that the original was blasted with
Especially if they do it in the same style of Dark Side of Dimensions. Or at least closer to it and more detailed than the original series. That way the series can flow right into the movie and make complete sense.
I think the story beats should be identical but I wouldn't mind the duels being updated to make them more interesting as well as help hype new set releases
I think that if we get a Duel Monsters reboot/remake, the likeliest scenario is a faithful adaptation of the manga. You make great points about how it doesn’t reflect the game of today, but I think that Takahashi’s death may give Shueisha cold feet about any transformative aspects. The industry places a lot of emphasis on the original creators and their wishes, and with Takahashi no longer around to approve things, if they do move forward with a reboot, I could see staying faithful to the manga as a way of preserving his legacy. One anime that got around this was “Itazura na Kiss”, a romance series that never finished due to the sudden death of the author. When the anime was made, the late author’s husband was consulted on how his wife had intended to end the series. Recently, there was also “Berserk”, which has continued publication after Miura’s death, with an assistant taking the helm. So, one benefit of Yu-Gi-Oh! being a large multimedia franchise is that it’s possible that there are people in the system who are seen as someone Takahashi would have trusted. Perhaps to avoid all of those issues, however, they might instead choose to adapt something like OCG Stories, or one of the other ongoing manga?
I want a straight up adaptation of the Manga. I want to see a guy go blind with censor Mosaic, I want to see an escaped convict set on fire, Joeys former delinquent gang, Psycho Mokuba and his kids meal poison roulette, Shadi's Villain Arc, Death-T, Yo-Yo- assaults, Grandpa's soul stuck in a video tape and having to communicate via camcorder, Joey delivering a beatdown on Bandit Keith, no Virtual World arcs...
An OVA is exactly what we need even more so when you think about how much anime is accepted now versus 2000. It won't HAVE to remove or censor anything.
12:30 This. You can't bring in brand new people (primarily children or teens) into the card game if you're going to bombard them with hundreds of different combos out the gate. Keeping things slow and straight to the point with more relatively simple strategies will ease new people (or returning folk) back into the game. Edit: By bringing in a reboot of the anime, they could even have the chance to create new cards for some of the other archetypes being shown. Maybe Pegasus shows up to use Millennium Eyes Restrict and activates a brand new unseen spell card that helps that archetype (please do this). Maybe Bandit Keith during Battle City reveals a brand new Zera the Mant monster and with new support cards.
I wouldn't mind a reboot, but if they do one, I hope they go through and remake every series, cuz we didn't get all of GX, 5ds was cut short, and Arc V could be improved past the first season
Unfortunately nobody cares about those shows. When people think of Yu-Gi-Oh, we think of things like Yugi, Kaiba, Exodia, God cards. People want that nostalgia and the DM is what people mostly resonate with so if a reboot ever does happen, from a business standpoint making a reboot of the original DM anime is the way to go.
@@JuwanBuchanan yes, but since bonds beyond time Is canon for DM as well, they would have to go at least up to 5D's, wich are the three series that are actually connected.
why do people make fun of attack the moon or makos ocean field ? the whole point of duelist kingdom is that it was a whacky themed tournament it wasnt standard format in universe. They even explain it and people still dont get it.
ah but you forget that in Duelist Kingdom Joey's slamming down Flame Swordsman and I think from Episode to Episode the card for it will change from a normal monster to a fusion monster (the actual image of the card, not how he summons it) so there is still plenty of goofy stuff outside of the "custom like" field power bonuses.
For me I think a “sequel” to the original series would bring more people in than a reboot. Digimon tried a reboot a couple years ago and wasn’t successful. Maybe a sequel with yugi and friends in the future as adults with kids of their own (help bring in young audience but also coinciding with the general age range of the original viewers in real life) having to face off against new or returning threats from the past. Yugi having to learn the new techniques would be a great way of drawing the old audience back in by helping to explain the game as it is now. Let me know what you think! :)
Yeah. I'm so tired of reboots and retellings. Just give me a decent sequel. It doesn't even have to be about yugi and co, it could be about another group of duelists in another city with another group of millennium items. If they cranked up the shadow games, aged the cast to like... 28 maybe?, had original characters show up from time to time and put it on adult swim I honestly think it would do well. Maybe something like the last airbender to Korra, but not a bad show.
A manga accurate Yu-Gi-Oh anime would be sweet. I think we really just need a Yu-Gi-OH 2 for the card game though. A sequel to DSOD, either a movie or series, would be great too. *They could just show the card text on screen, as part of the LP UI that everyone sees already. Or just a god damned subscription price for Master Duel and Duel Links. Should also just combine those into one game.
I think it would be cool if they do a different perspective with new characters that will follow them in the same time period as Duelist Kingdom and Battle City, but with a more grounded story (without having to save the world and all that, that's Yugi's job lmao). Imagine a few characters that are invited to the Duelist Kingdom and you follow their story and how and why they are there and we only see Yugi and the gang in passing or in the background in an episode or two as an easter egg. Then next season we follow the main characters into the Battle City tournament. For the cards, we can have some cool new cards that wouldn't be too over-powered but they can be some new support cards for some less used cards in that time. I think this will bring the old fans back into the series because of the beloved arcs of Duelist Kingdom and Battle City being shown from a different perspective, and also maybe new fans that can follow the duels easily without having to be introduced to a lot of different summoning ways or combos, etc. If this goes well, they can continue to create different perspective of new character in the Duel Academy in GX, where they experience the same events as Jaden but they have their own struggles and we follow their story, and the main events from GX are just shown for an episode or two.
I mean they could always adapt the general plot while replacing the different games for more card games (probably not every instance, but there's quite a few you could replace)
I never read the manga but I do know it was a lot darker than the anime was. I wouldn't want a full reset for the anime though, cool as Duelist Kingdom was it wouldn't translate well into the game if that's why they're trying to reboot it.
@@scattershot666That's kind of the problem. If they were to reboot it, I think it should be as a tribute to the manga that started it all, not as a vehicle to sell their current product. That's partly what led to it being gradually toned down more and more. (Going from the manga, to Season 0, then to Duel Monsters, then to the dub.)
@linkinboss2 They don't even necessarily have to replace the games with card games, except for one or two, there are cards in the irl game based on shadow games and punishments that could be brought up as in show inspirations.
@@darthjoe91 Yeah, I strongly believe that a a good adaptation honoring the legacy of the late Kazuki Takahashi would have all of the shadow games as depicted in the manga, then leading up to Kaiba awakening from his canonical coma for card games.
I hope Konami watches this and realizes how cluster f**’d they’ve made their beloved series. They have totally ruined the game and all these different shows and formats now slap them in the face if they ever think about a reboot. They’ll realize how hard they made it on themselves. I just want OG Yugioh, and synchros were fun. Anything past that is a cluster f***
Unless Takahashi said he was okay with the idea of it while he was alive or they followed the Manga to a t I would find it pretty disrespectful to him to try and cash in on it again
I'm not a fan of the idea of rebooting the original DM anime. If Kazuki Takahashi was alive then maybe, but reworking his most famous manga after his passing is disrespectful in my eyes. I wouldn't mind seeing a new series that's again more mystical. It's sad that the setting became somewhat generic sci-fi after the first half of 5D's. To me ancient magic being used in modern times was always more fun. I hope we see more of that. More than anything is like to see Konami Animation expand on the card art lore they teased at the start of the year.
I'd love to see them go more into the Vanguard Anime route, where you actually see them open packs, talk about Meta, change Decks, try different strategies etc. Cause Yugi is the "King of Games", but what actually is that? How do you achieve that? For me it would be him actually being someone who can adapt his deck in a way to always counter and win the Meta with unique strategies. Instead the anime always had the "one of new card of the week" thing, were the "main cast" were the characters without any actual strategies. Meanwhile all the villains had decks that actualls were build around a certain type or strategy. That way you could have: Kaiba: The veteran pro gamer who always has the most updated Meta deck/cards and shows us what it's like to be a pro Yugi: Who's good at the game and the underdog who counters the Meta with unique and outdated cards used in new strategies (like how Upstard Goblin suddenly became relevant back then) Joey: Who's more or less representing us. The new dude who thinks the cards look cool but kinda has to get into the game and slowly learn how to actually be competetive and sorta becomes a inbetween Yugi and Kaiba
I wouldn’t mind if they did a REMAKE but a REBOOT is a fresh start over. Since Takahashi has passed, a reboot where they take the story in a new direction, absolutely not. I saw it with DB Super and Scott Pilgrim what happens when they try something new with an established story. They REALLY need to readapt the original manga all the way through. Volumes 1-7 and all of Duelist and Millenium World.
@@gabrielfeldinger6533 DB Super and Scott Pilgrim Takes Off had their original creator involved and were case studies on how badly that can go. One where the creator wasn’t involved enough, Super, and thus the product was a flanderized narrative mess. And Scott Pilgrim Takes Off, where the creator was DEEPLY involved, and the series STILL I mischaracterized, flanderized, and downplayed the original work and its characters. Now imagine a series where the original creator has NO say because they are DEAD. And as the video suggests, the series gets rebooted and the story gets meddled with and redone. How is that respectful in anyway first and foremost to Takahashi. But secondly, that would genuinely be a disservice to the work he did that NEVER got a full adaptation to begin with. Repeating the sins of Scott Pilgrim Takes Off should not happen. Yugioh is heavily censored, half the world doesn’t even know that the first 7 volumes exist, yet it should be rebooted instead of remade? All in all, it would be a disaster on a marketing front and insanely disrespectful.
@@gohan7926 Your point is that a yugioh reboot would be bad without Takahashi, but you listed shows you thought were bad where the creators were involved. By your own statements, creator involvement doesn't affect the final product because, creator involvement or not, its still bad. There's no connective tissue between those statements, there's no logic. Also Scott Pilgrim Takes Off whips ass and massively improved on the original so idk what you're on about.
@@gohan7926 Bro you are literally arguing against yourself. Your own examples were made with the involvement of their respective authors. I get that you're trying to say 'if bad with authors then worse without them" but your evidence has literally no correlation with your argument.
Imo, there's some really cool ideas to have with a reboot. If Takahashi was still alive, I would kill to give him a chance to go back through and do what he wants, whether it be from season 0 or rewriting parts along the way. But leaving the original property in other hands without the chance to get input sits weird, definitely possible to do great, plenty of examples of, but weird. I do think the biggest thing would be streamlining the pacing. Yes you need to have extensive dialogue at times, especially since in most cases, they're just sitting around playing cards. But getting closer to the duel flow in DSOD where it's closer to the actual game (at times) and flows well because they know they're on a clock, a lot of the anime is "Well I did this, and this and A-HA clutch card for an insta kill no matter how far I was behind" after having just finished the original manga and trying to get back into the shows more. There is very little tension in the duels themselves at times, most of it is the other factors. Let them play the game, be fine with handwaving that they put their cards face down, not declaring every slight move, but still give insight to their thoughts and strategies. I think aiming it at the teenage-young adult from the outset would do it more favors too versus the anime's initial take where it was brought to be targeting a younger base, then 4Kids targeting even younger. I think the censorship actually opened some really fun ideas (Shadow realm, some of the redesigned horrific ideas) but more often put them in a corner where they have to break tone. What you mentioned at the end is an interesting idea too, Rush duels could be an interesting way of handling it, I haven't seen the anime, but it lets them do the newer properties with relatively simple rules that are a bit easier to adapt and, from what little I've experienced in Duel Links, reasonably reflects the very early abilities and beatstick card style. That said, it fits weird with the strategy and styles of those classic characters, there's probably a way to do it, but I'd probably rather them just play the original game with some easier to follow strategies that take a few turns like ye olden days. Partially out of nostalgia, partially out of audience ability to follow if they look away for 2 seconds like me in Master Duel trying to figure out why my screen says Defeat right after I accepted the match.
A continuation of the Duel Monsters series would be my first choice. Something that picks up after Dark Side of Dimensions, and has the same amazing animation quality and fast paced duel choreography. My second choice would be a series focusing on the Monster characters themselves, based in their world. Getting to see my favorite decks brought to life as characters in their own series would be arguably as good as seeing Yugi and Kaiba again.
Shueisha is not gonna allow it. It's not marketable for them. Takahashi alive or not, wouldn't change that fact. The manga is finished. The anime adaptation we got has the canon ending. When people bring up Fullmetal Alchemist, Hellsing OVA or HxH, that they've gotten remakes and such, the difference is that the 'original' anime, as people call them, was made BEFORE the manga was finished. Yu-Gi-Oh's final arc was rushed bc Takahashi's publisher told him to finish it. The rating after Battle City dropped, and sensei being in the hospital for 40 days also didn't help. That's why the Millennium World arc is so short and unbelievably rushed. Battle City is technically 16 books (depending on the type of book that you have)! DSoD was requested by Shueisha, the director asked Takahashi to write for the film. How much that sensei had written for the film that was used is up for debate bc you can clearly tell which scenes were made by sensei and which for marketing purposes. Overall, if Shueisha sees a profit opportunity, then maaaaaybe we might get a reboot. But I'm certain that the only reboot we might get will be like Zexal (bc Zexal beat by beat is DM for modern audience of that time).
@@genyakozlov1316 Kai is not a reboot or remake, just a remastered version of Z without fillers. For the 20th anniversary Yu-Gi-Oh had the same, a remastered version of Duelist Kingdom and Battle City, which only aired Japan.
So here’s a story for you: When I was a kid I was so into all the duel type games, beyblade, pokemon, Yugi-oh, ect. I would see the other kids with their decks duking it out in the hallways, in the cafeteria, the kids would circle around and as a kid with no friends and loved the games all I wanted was to be part of this but sadly my parents refused to buy me any of the games. But a few years later lo and behold I was finally given some pokemon cards for my birthday because they looked into it and deemed It more okay than the others I guess so I got my first card. I was so excited until I got to school and Imagine my shock when they got confiscated because of that infamous schools starting to ban cards era. I was so disappointed that I finally got them only to be told I couldn’t play with them. With no one to play with, I kind of just gave up on asking for more. Years later I’m an Adult with adult money and I can buy my own dang cards, so around last year I started to try and build my own deck and had this little fantasy of tournaments and playing against other players. I even rewatched the whole Yugi-oh franchise to prepare myself but again SHOCKED. You see I stopped around Zexal but didn’t really watch it in full depth as the past ones so I had no idea there were newer gens after Zexal. It didn’t take long for me to realize the game was totally different from before, I even tried to get into Master duel to understand it better but it’s just overly complex and feels like to much. I instantly didn’t like the play and only like playing classic style. This is my personal opinion: they need to start having separate rooms and separate tournaments for classic players and new gen players. It’s way too much to ask new players to adapt to such complex rules and heavy competition of people who perfected it to a T. TL;DR: They need to make separate competitions for people who play classic and new gen. New gen isn’t Player friendly.
@@daimer8660 When I meant classic I meant with without the Link summons, XYZ summons, no Pendulum’s, ect. When I said I wanted to play with others when i was younger, I didn’t mean that was my extent knowledge of the game since then I have played quite a bit the way it used to be played with some friends, I know you technically can play without these if you ask but it seems to be taken with more malice. I also meant other factors like card shops and competitions as in local and small not the big tournaments. If this still doesn’t explain enough or I’m not being articulate enough with explaining what I mean, I think playing the way it was originally played when the game originally came out is still a valid way to play and I wouldn’t consider it just playground because it’s still a solid game which is what made it what it is today. Sorry if you mean something else and I’m not understanding it.
I’d hope for the series to have trap cards function like trap cards again, where they’re a reaction to your opponent instead of being basically spell cards.
Besides the issue of the game being practically unapproachable to new/returning players, let's be honest about the "resurgence" of Yu-Gi-Oh... it's not that big of a deal. If it was, there would be substantial motivation to actually make Go Rush available outside of Japan. When even Crunchyroll is like, "Nope, don't have that one.", you know that NOBODY cares. The one thing besides Noah Lyles pulling out cards that really got the Internet buzzing was that anniversary video that made everyone think we could be getting a Monster World anime... when it turned out to basically be an ad. That's it. Nothing else. There's no product release, no merchandise, no influencer tie-in that's going to make a big difference. Ironically enough though, they actually already have the answer and just don't want to do it. Don't make a reboot. People are tired of them. They're tired of the same old crap being retold and they want something new. Instead, do what people THOUGHT Konami was going to do. Make a Monster World style anime. Tell the stories that are being told in the card game. Give us the story around all the Albaz/Branded stuff with the Tri-Brigades, Springans, Swordsouls, etc. Animate the story of Visas Starfrost and their journey across the galaxy with the Tearlaments, Scareclaw and Kashtira. Yes, you can also get to a point where you could do stuff about the Dark Magician, Blue-Eyes, and other nostalgic archetypes. Point being, they can make a new Yu-Gi-Oh anthology series that is actually new AND draw in fans AND promote the new cards without it being another story about Yugi and Kaiba getting duel boners for one another. They just don't want to because that means spending money and taking a risk. Konami just doesn't want to.
@@YM-cs9zd and if dark magician girl is the main character like come on everyone like dark magician girl this show would pull everyone in just for her appeal!
I myself am a bit of a yugi-boomer. I've kept up with the game at a glance but haven't purchased new sets since Shining Victories. I wasn't a fan of pendulums and then when the master rules around Link monsters originally harmed other monsters in the extra deck, it just felt like they weren't really thinking about the integrity of the gameplay and just slapping whatever quick fix they came up with that day. That being said, I still love YuGiOh heavily. Edison and goat formats are my preferred way to play(although I genuinely enjoy XYZ monsters) and the recent retro reprints inspired me to build a retro cube. It feels nostalgic and reminiscent of childhood, but I also have my modem sensibilities and years of experience playing tabletop games behind it, making for that "modern strategy" touch you mentioned about the characters not needing to cheat to make things interesting. On a seperate note, or at least a point to make in terms of accessibility for new and/or returning players. If you want to play modern YuGiOh at a more fun pace with interaction and not the insane combos that lead to solitaire strategies; make decks singleton. By eliminating duplicates, you morph the gaming landscape heavily. There's a lot more variety in gameplay, and although there's more chance for bricking, your opponent has that same disadvantage. Only having a single copy of any one card definitely makes the gameplay less repetitive and overall more interesting in my opinion.
I don’t think it’s possible to reboot the franchise without also rebooting the game, and by doing that, you have to get rid of the last twenty five years of OCG and TCG cards. You have to start fresh with an approachable product, and that product is Rush Duels.
do you think it's lack of popularity comes from TOO MANY different cards? I think this would be an interesting topic to think about. There's just too much to think about. I was a massive YuGiOh fan... but now i just think there's too much to keep up with.
Should do a fullmetal Alchemist brotherhood. Follow the manga closer, keep the most VAs possible, and better animation. Making it a anime only remake is meh imo especially if they put modern cards. The way the modern game is played each game would end in 1-3 total turns it would be complex and boring. Your argument of trying to slow roll duels literally proves that the anime HAS to misrepresent the game to make it entertaining. People trying to then play these decks will be crushed just like if they tried a goat deck by modern decks.
On one hand, I would love an anime more faithful to Takahashi's manga, on the other hand, Konami already milks DM so much I'd rather have something new.
As someone who hopped back into collecting cards i wanted in my childhood during COVID in 2020 (nostalgia hit in an extreme way) and wanting to potentially play again, going back to it was way too much. Even trying the Switch game and master duel like people recommend its just not a fun game anymore, its trying to beat your opponent as quick as possible, instead of the ride up to the win that makes the game an experience and more like the tv show. That all happens when youre by yourself, figuring out what the meta is, the perfect deck for whatever tournament youre going to. Which, if you have fun with that more power to you and keep that up. To other people trying to hop in again/for the first time thats just not a fun game. Especially to players like me, who would just like some more Dark Magician/Red Eyes/Summoned Skull/overall classic support. They couldve overcomplicated the support systems for the monsters that players loved, but it got too complicated with way too many classes/ways of play/monster type/card type etc. Seems like Konamis catching on to that with more Dark Magician/Blue eyes support but considering the way Konami designs cards (Cards/new types are typically made 7 years ahead of time on average) its too late unless they maneuver in a new way. They should take more notes from Pokémon, as much as i hate to say it.
@@Ughstopped dude, there is a playable yugi deck and exodia is actually winning tournaments atm. Yugi deck is kinda ok (needs more sauce but can win vs good decks a few times), and exodia is lowkey good. Neither deck does long sequences nor use the extra deck a lot. Unless you count using 2 monsters for silhouhatte rabbit and activating a fusion spell clmplex. My exodia deck doesn't even use a lot of modern cards. I think its ash, shifter and secret village but that is 15 year old by now. It uses old stuff like super poly, lava golem, exodia pieces and the new support which are retrains of old cards like millenium shield. There will be a tournament playable and relatively affordable bewd deck in 4 months. We live in an era where anime decks are playable, yet you still find reasons to complain
Why not embrace the nostalgic rehash obsession and make a series where characters make decks based on their ‘heroes’ or faves. It’s like duel spirits except the spirit is basically a duelist from the original series. Heck, imagine if the main character ran a Kaiba deck to switch things around.
I like this idea as long as it isn't DM limited. I know a lot of old school players don't like anything past synchros, but it's still Yugioh and taking inspiration from all the series and archetypes that haven't appeared in the anime would be the best. Especially if you center it around self improvement and deck construction, using actual strategies.
Some characters in OCG structures are basically this. They have a Kaito cosplayer that plays Galaxy-Eyes and currently a Yuya with a modern pendulum deck.
Here in my city is about to have a TCG event in halloween, i was surprised there will be pokemon, digimon and even dragon ball tcg matches / tournaments, but no yugioh at all....
It sounds good in theory but there is no way you could do a reboot. Trust would be lost, because all cards would crash the hardest they ever have, and no one would feel confident in buying cards. There is literally no way to do it other than making different formats. That essentially *is* rebooting.
It is DEFINITELY the time for THE YuGIOh remake.. But it'd have to be passion-filled and a truly dedicated show/TCG-revamp.. Slow in power like the original TCG sets, way more fun to actually play when every turn isn't a solitaire game.. lol.. and make the shows Duels/cards truly match the effects of the real-world TCG.. 🃏
The idea of long combos being cut down is a realistic approach. Because later on in the anime when they have to get longer in order to show the rest of the combo, they can cut away to show another part of someone else’s story, then return later to show the next portion of the move. It practically demands a new approach to telling stories.
If people both in and outside the community complain about the way modern Yu-Gi-Oh is played I don’t believe rebooting the series with the cast running new cards would result in player retention which is what the game has been struggling with for years. It would likely be a Master Duel situation where initial interest is high but ultimately would seriously decline or the interest would only go as far as watching the anime or collecting older cards. I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with just playing GOAT format but there is a clear limit to what money can be made buying old cards. Plus doing a retelling of the original Duel Monsters anime would require a new lower power format (no not a reset) alongside it so that at least people can have a space to play like in the anime. Not to mention there are writers of different Yu-Gi-Oh who have found difficulty with writing duels regarding modern cards. Personally I’m in favor of an anime reboot telling the manga story or a continuation from the Dark Side of Dimensions. I know people want more time Yugi and Kaiba but honestly their character arcs are over however Joey did want to turn dueling into a long term career so he is the best option to continue the story. That’s not to say you can’t have Yugi or Kaiba in a hypothetical continuation but just make their appearances rare so it feels special.
Truly would only want a full Manga adaptation. As in there is no Duel Monsters manga, like there is no DBZ manga. Just start from the beginning and do the whole thing. It's either that or something completely new, which is a whole different conversation
Each series performed worse and worse because the formats SUCK after synchros… gosh I want old school format to be meta. So annoying what this game has become
Yes, a DM with Yugi. not the combo crazy shi+ that modern players vocally defend - there are millions more classic duelests who outnumber them by an order of magnitude who should be welcomed home
You mean out of touch Yugi Boomers who had no intention of ever playing this game seriously or pretend playground YGO is still relevant despite that standard is unacceptable in this day and age. I wish to introduce to all of these classic imaginary duelists to Magical Scientist FTK
No? Put yourself in their shoes. Why would you invest to make it for an audience that by definition are against the product that investment is supposed to funnel them into? You're asking them to burn money for shits and giggles. The modern players ARE players. Yugiboomers either play with their old ass cards outside locals or, more commonly, on free sims. That doesn't exactly sound like good business.
@@soukenmarufwt5224 If there ever was DM reboot, I want them to dedicate an episode on Magical Scientist FTK and have Yugiboomers realize they have all these years been gassing up the most one-sided "classic duel" ever.
My 2 cents on the anime. The Duelist Kingdom and Battle City arcs were epic. This is where the focus is on a tournament so the card game itself takes center stage, and here the anime shines. The issue with later arcs is that they feel that they have to "1 up" the previous arcs in scope so they focus on a big story that is not all that believable/interesting. The card game also takes a back seat here. And also the characters themselves. I care about Joey, Yugi and the gang, and want some epic Duel Monsters duels of course. I don't care about some ancient cult or saving the world and all that nonsense. If they reboot anything they need to know what worked/what didn't
Battle City is the worst arc of the series, both manga and anime, with all three filler arcs eclipsing it, and all the arcs before it in the manga too.
Haven't watched the vid yet but my pitch would be a new series featuring a young Solomon Muto, prof. Hawkins and Pegasus based in egypt at the time of the excavations. The series would end with the birth of Duel Monsters, and up untill then they would figure out a way to fight with the monsters that's more similar to a creature battler like they do in the final season of DM. I think an official DM-era creature battler would be a cool product, especially if launched alongside its own series. I personally think that shifting the setting to an unimmaginably far future was the first of many mistakes konami made with the IP, as much as I love scifi, a setting that's more mystical than technological better suits the game, just think about the words used for the game mechanics: tributing, summoning, spells, rituals, etc.
as far as Gameplay goes, I feel what the franchise needs is a proper visual format that can remain consistent no matter where it goes... and Master Duel has a pretty good showing of how that can be presented in anime form. the ultimate goal is to have a way to show a duel going on, even when the duelists aren't speaking at all... basically having certain actions be accompanied by what would look like a system message... for instance, you normal summon a monster, you'd see a visual cue with the words "NORMAL SUMMON" flash briefly to show it. for Extra Deck and Ritual summons, you'd have the visuals for the summon with a sort of loading screen blink twice (FUSING, TUNING, OVERLAYING, LINKING, TRIBUTING) with the summon announced when completed (FUSION/SYNCHRO/XYZ/LINK/RITUAL SUMMON) the same would apply to combo chains, Effect 1 would flash "MONSTER/SPELL/TRAP EFFECT", and responses would be pinged as CHAIN 2 onward. if you want a visual flair, you could have the effects chaining do an intensifying impact the longer the chain goes. ultimately, if you can show a duel, with nobody speaking and still have people follow along to know what happened... then you can dedicate the silence for character interactions instead.
@@spicymemes7458 Those are the people who are still actively playing modern Yugioh. AKA the people Konami doesn't need to market to in order to revitalize Yugioh.
@@blebcat Listening to people who actually like your game is a much better idea than desperately chasing after people who hate it. Look at the release of Master Duel, so many people nostalgic for yugioh tried the game out and ended up leaving a negative review because it's not Yugi vs Kaiba T-set pass. Even if much of the criticism is valid, trying to pander to them is a waste of time, that's just not what the game is anymore and hasn't been for a very long time.
@@blebcat then go the DragonBall route and expand the original story. I'd be ok with that. That didn't need a reboot in order to stay relevant. Nor did Pokémon. Whether it be new movies or a 6th season of DM, follow up DSOD with a new story so you get all the benefits of using familiar characters in new situations and new cards without it coming off like trying to catch lightning in a bottle. It's not like we need the original anime with 3D effects in order to be popular again. It's that they decided almost 20 years ago to crank out spinoff after spinoff, and it got away from the original core story that people were already invested in.
If ever there is a Yu-Gi-Oh! anime reboot, it's best to just do a proper adaptation of the manga, and once the anime reached the Duel Monsters introduction, it's best to use the current OCG/TCG rule book while making sense with what actually happened in the manga. Best part about it is that they can easily introduce Bakura's table top RPG! Another option for Konami to sell new stuff.
Season 0 isn't really season 0. If you read the manga that's what it starts with and that's why it's about "king of games" and not "kind of duel monsters". Yami Yugi is all about all kinds of games
Great take! I’d add in a whole “start from scratch” campaign as well. What was a major turn off to the game to me was how one turn can take forever and be super complicated. My friends and I don’t even use anything past fusion monsters because it takes way too long and kills momentum and the overall fun.
Also, in the spirit of board games, there also should introduce coop scenarios. This would make effects that may be bad in normal duels be more useful, like Life Point gain, attack prevention, strong defense values, burn damage, Attack modification, etc.
Because he is a casual fan. He can't even th i nk properly, yet he blames everything he does wrong into the game as it is "broken and uninteractive". Just b a d player stuff
Don't know why people assume Yugi would surrender when he sees this as another form of puzzle to solve. Aren't most duels with Yugi beating the odds stacked against him by his opponents?
@@hazamax2139Always funny when you hear the complaint of "game only lasts 3 turns" when (assuming you don't brick) those 3 turns have way more interaction than 10 turns of setting and passing
I would love if card designs and lore went back to legends and mythology. Putting game mechanics aside, I love the Albaz cards and lore, but generally avoid a lot of Link stuff just because the futuristic stuff stopped being interesting to me after XYZ. I felt like Synchro was a good shot at futuristic/technological aesthetics, then XYZ shot it into space, wherein the cards could be pretty much anything. I look at a lot of staple Links like Accesscode Talker and I'm just not as interested as I am looking at the likes of Dark Magician, the heroes of GX, the Signer Dragons, or pretty much any of the posterboys of XYZ like Galaxy Eyes and Utopia. I know a lot of people would focus more on mechanics, but what got me into YGO as a kid, and what brought me back, is because of that initial visual appeal.
Reboot with updated decks would be pretty sick. Having kaiba using all the new blue-eyes support would go hard, but what deck do you give yugi? Do you go pure dark magician, mix of dark magician and buster blader, dark magician and magnet warriors? Some of the new illusion monsters? For story I think your final idea where the story gets changed slightly to keep it fresh is the best one, but perhaps not as much changed as you originally said. Keeping it around the power level we saw in zexal or early arc-V I think would be fine
@@spicymemes7458 Rush is one of the 10 best selling TCGs in Japan, beating both Cardfight Vanguard and Digimon. Japan might not have ever gotten Speed Duels so we can't really compare but Rush will likely do a lot better
Just finishing my re-read of the book and would like a more mature take this go ( if they reboot) they don’t have to go whole hog on the violence but just keeping it more one to one from the books battle boxes, ventriloquists, and fathers grudges, though millennium world was very similar to the book the changes that were made make it feel worlds different. Id do not all but a few of the first few stories, i’d say the first chapter, tristan/Hondas puzzle (but rework teacher to look less like mai) the scorpion in the shoe, Kaiba stealling blue eyes at school, the digital pets, the arcade/ joe street fight, mokuba inviting yugi and joey over for poison lunch roulet, death-T, the trigger gun fighter and school festival grill hockey, you could also do the rebecca filler but you could skip it, monster world/Dnd arc for end of first season, (yeah i shuffled some intntional, you could also do tea getting held hostage in the burger joint but might be to much) then i’d just follow the comic but rework the duels to be more like the real card game. You do kingdom, dice monsters, battle city no filler cyber world, virtual game, waking dragons, capsule world, kaiba land tournament, you could do the events of yugioh R for something new, but i’d just go to millennium world but i’d still work kaiba into it.
For the OCG/TCG a reboot is definitely needed. But I think Rush Duel IS the reboot that Yugioh needs. As long as the game stays with Fusions for the Extra Deck, the game will be fine.
I do like your idea of sort of mixing the ideas together, like using similar ideas and such from the older show, but updating the character decks and such. I also love the suggestion of slowing down the plays for the Anime, the Yugioh fandom needs more of that now, since every duel nowadays seems to be OTKs if even that. Yeah, the "nostalgia overload" thing you mention is happening all over the place, even in live-action stuff, a huge example of that is Star Wars. What I mean is like everywhere you look whenever you see Star Wars stuff it's always Luke, Han, and Leia or Darth Vader or Obi-Wan and so on and all the shows and movies they have been releasing and such have pretty much all been set in the time period of the Original Trilogy or the Prequel Trilogy and such, and a lot of fans have been getting tired of it and want stuff set outside the "Skywalker Saga" as its been called, which the books and comics have been doing, but it's not enough. Another big one is Harry Potter, fans want to see more stuff expanding on the Wizarding World like a project focusing on the beginning of Hogwarts and its founders, or one following Harry's dad and his friends during their time at Hogwarts and stuff like that, but it seems all that the studios and such want to do is remake the main 7 books and have the focus be entirely on Harry, Ron, and Hermione. Those are just a couple examples. As far as what could satisfy the most amount of people for Yugioh, while a reboot seems a bit of a situation like you mention, I could see them marketing it as less of a reboot and more of a successor series or a sort of Alternate Universe sort of thing. What I mean is more something like X-Men '97 is to X-Men: the Animated Series or like what Pokemon sort of did with the more recent Pokemon movies, where the former is a continuation of the previous series and the latter is more or less the same basic ideas but they are allowed to tell their own stories that differ from any of the source material and change or omit certain characters or put other characters in those roles and such all while still keeping the main characters (in the case of Pokemon they kept Ash and Pikachu, but did new stories with them that didn't have anything to do with the main Anime and occasionally brought in other supporting characters and locations and such from the main Anime, but did different things with them). Yugioh does already sort of have this going for it as the Bonds Beyond Time movie and times in the Anime when the other protagonists go back and visit Yugi or that time period (like the duel at the end of GX between Yugi and Jaden) there seems to be hints of story arcs that they are in the middle of that we've not actually seen anything of, perhaps they could make an Anime of that or go and do something with the Yugioh R Manga or whatever as well as perhaps the other Manga stories that weren't adapted for the Anime or some of the stories from the video games like Falsebound Kingdom and such. Whatever the case, while I personally wouldn't be opposed to a reboot of the OG Yugioh, as you said I know there's a lot who wouldn't want it. That said, perhaps they could do some expanding on the universe like I mentioned a lot of other fandoms want, like when we got that trailer from Konami of Yugioh Chronicles or whatever it was called where we explore the world of the Monsters and learn the lore and such of them that we don't get from the regular Anime, there seemed to be a lot of interest in something like that maybe that's more the direction they should go and make an Anime of that or whatever. Perhaps even do a crossover miniseries or movie or special or whatever where all the non-Rush Duel protagonists get together and have one big 6-way duel between each other (or maybe have like a big tournament between all them with their supporting cast and their villains team up or whatever) allowing them to show more modern cards and strategies and such as well as new cards made specifically for the project (that's personally been an idea that I've wanted to see done for a long time). Or dare I say do a live-action Yugioh reboot or story or whatever, that seems to be something many Anime and Anime-like cartoons (like Avatar: the Last Airbender) seem to want to be doing as of recent, to varying degrees of success.
I grew up with 5ds, zexal arc-v and vrains. Now I can only speak for myself, but I feel like the people from my generation wouldn't care if the og got a reboot since we don't have a connection with it. Atleast I wouldn't care and be just annoyed that we would get even more blue-eyes and dark magician cards in main and side sets.
I started around the GX era because of the character Jaden. I was familiar with DM but never watched it cause it didn't interest me at the time. Despite owning some VHS tapes of sporadic episodes (which I long lost). After watching through GX it actually made want to rewatch the YGO DM and play the game using simulators at the time. Eventually season when I looked it up online. Much radically different from what I was used to. Though didn't pay it too much mind at the time. I kept marathoning DM using web sites. My case I wouldn't care about a DM reboot cause as someone that actually plays high level ygo (cause I sucked hard when I started out as a kid) DM doest age well at all for us who actually play the game and grew up in a much different time. If anything DM reboot will only appeal to DM fan and fans of the og lore. Not to us, guess you can say, next gen ygo
I started around the GX era because of the character Jaden. I was familiar with DM but never watched it cause it didn't interest me at the time. Despite owning some VHS tapes of sporadic episodes (which I long lost). After watching through GX it actually made want to rewatch the YGO DM and play the game using simulators at the time. Eventually season when I looked it up online. Much radically different from what I was used to. Though didn't pay it too much mind at the time. I kept marathoning DM using web sites. My case I wouldn't care about a DM reboot cause as someone that actually plays high level ygo (cause I sucked hard when I started out as a kid) DM doest age well at all for us who actually play the game and grew up in a much different time. If anything DM reboot will only appeal to DM fan and fans of the og lore. Not to us, guess you can say, next gen ygo
That's my biggest thing imo. I've almost developed a visceral hatred for Dark Magician and Blue Eyes just because of how they keep coming up over and over again. I think we got Blue Eyes support in 2016 with Spirit then 2022 (?) with Jet and now we're getting more Blue Eyes cards. Even in today's Yugioh, the game is honestly pretty interactive if you're playing a deck that's at least semi-competent (or you sack enough non-engine), we're finally out of the "Negate and destroy" era, and (as much as I hate him) Arise-Heart showed us that we can have interactive boss monsters that don't negate but are strong enough to command a game.
Would really enjoy a reimagining or continuation of the original Anime. But you bring up a good point how you laid out the turns to slow things down. I wonder if that would work in Yugioh tcg today. For example you only get one action or two on your first turn same for the opponent. This includes summoning. Limit summoning, and magic cards. Have to plan your attacks and strategies. It could be awful but your concept was interesting. Great vid!
I dont know about a remake, but i feel like a movie based on joey becoming the king of games and showing the duel between him and atem/yugi (never clear who he beat) to get back red eyes
So funny I was thinking about this just the other day, and here's a few paths I would be interested in. So similar how Gundam Origins gives us a different side the original Mobile Suit Gundam, or how the Power books re-centers the story around another character, I'd be into seeing a spinoff series that provides us with more storytelling for another character and titles it around them, for instance if you did this with Kaiba or Marik you could have a lot of mileage with just giving us their vantage point and showing their motivations, and you could end Marik's run at Battle City; Kaiba's you could start or end wherever, relate it to DSoD even. The other option I could watch is a story after Dark Side of Dimensions where there's just more supernatural threats to Domino City and Yugi has to duel through them all (w/o Atem). I know DSod isn't canon, but they had something there they need to run with, and you could introduce a lot of new modern cards and tactics.
Oh I thought you meant, a CARD GAME reboot, which the answer is also a resounding YES. There's a reason why Master Duel was SO popular until people played the current game and the numbers dropped in droves.
It's funny, I just watched DSOD a few days ago and was thinking along these same lines. I decided I'd like to see a series where we catch up with the original crew but, into early adulthood. Yugi now looks and sounds like Atem, is married to Teá, and makes games for Kaiba Corp. Seto has grown wiser after returning from dueling with the Pharaoh in the underworld, and Mokuba's finally gotten tall. Joey and Mai live in NY(she's a model and he runs a dueling academy or something) Tristan owns a chain of motorcycle repair shops in Domino, etc. They could slowly pass the baton to the next generation as the series begins to focus on their kids dealing with some new problems involving magic and monsters.
Its not end up, it already does. Look at the recent MCDONALD'S toys- red eyes dm blue eyes kuribo exodia etc etc not a single modern IP. So many more people loved the classic, they're just not team aps subs
@@davidjames6788 If we even gave half the attention that the original got to some of these, they too may see a rise in popularity. The original also came out at a time when people actually watched TV. A series you probably wouldn't be interested in, you would give a shot as you're waiting for the program you wanted to watch.
11:50 I think its less about complicated combos and more about what story the combo tells. Like what does this effect represent? Why does this creature search for a specific card in the deck? If a coherent story can be told to explain the combo it can make combo heavy duels work really well. But yes I agree, two opponents dryly declaring card effects one after another is sort of off putting to new fans.
@@spicymemes7458 IKR ?!? i was like "oh yeah, now they are going to use this movie to launch a sequel series! With Yugi owning a shop & everybody out of school now leading to potentially more adult story with some season 0 action, this will be great." i was wrong, that was it. Now it was cool ofcourse but it would (& still could) be cool to see a sequel
I still want the original manga, be completely adapted in new animation. I know a lot of Yu-Gi-Oh fans want true to life Yu-Gi-Oh duels and no other games. Which is why they enjoyed 5D's so much. But Yu-Gi-Oh has such a good underrated story that needs to be adapted. Of course I've never been such a stickler for the rules, which is why I enjoyed Arc- V so much.
I used to work at a card shop and kids would come in to buy cards and it was the same thing every time. Blue-Eyes cards, Dark Magician cards, Red-Eyes cards. Pick a DM archetype, and they’d want it. Konami pushes DM in our faces so much, that all the sequel series get drowned out, and the current generation of kids just watch that, and the generation that grew up watching the OG show have just ignored the new series completely. We don’t need a reboot because Konami can just keep schilling the original over and over and we’ll just keep getting the same stupid Yugi and Kaiba merch over and over again. The cycle never ends.
Exactly , Tho the other yugioh series are great (Zexal , 5Ds & Vrains being personal favorites) The original DM series overshadows them so overwhelmingly in the public eye so much that they are hardly known, A sequel series to the original DM would probably be the best option, with Yugi now running a gameshop following DoD, ( also some set rotation with diffrent formats couldbe nice, rather than ONLY this "all cards- a few bans" we're stuck in
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I think a big reason is actually how the show airs and where to watch it. Back in those days everyone would watch a couple to several channels now there is infinite streaming and UA-cam. So I think "nerd culture" has become more a collection of niches. Like there are so many flavors of nerd now, at least that's my thought Before I think there was less options and variety. I could be wrong I only had free TV so I could only see yugioh and stuff like that on weekends
Thats a potential commercial anime disaster - ftk on screen turn 0 or turn 1 otk / scoop / 5 negates? Speaks more broadly to the scope of the problem of todays game
Mataza the Zapper, Maha Vailo and Summoned Skull for the win on a budget back in my day. Dang right, we need a reboot for Yugioh, Beyblade original series and Dragin Ball just did something similar. But we do need a Duel Masters too!!!!
I tried jumping back in when the online platform first launched but gave up pretty quickly. Any game that is decided within a couple turns just isn’t enough to hold my attention.
I 100% agree. I think they could make a Yugioh 2.0, remake literally every single card up to Edison format, with new artwork, buff all the bad cards so they are decent and every card becomes playable, but keep the gameplay and power level similar to Goat and Edison. And do a reboot with all these new versions of the cards.
Everything after Edison is complete and utter dogshit trash and should be forgotten. It's a stain on the legacy of Yugioh. Modern is trash. It's insultingly terrible.
Just.... just let your unbalanced non-game die already, dude. People aren't coming in because they've seen what it is.
Just.... just let your unbalanced non-game die already, dude. People aren't coming in because they've seen what it is.
Pin of shame
I wasn’t into Yugi oh as a kid but I am now as an adult. I know plenty of people like that. The potential for a reboot is there. Pokémon did it successfully. Yugioh can too
but enough about mtg and pokemon lmao
@@boomikxsarma3701 Sorry I'm so right
I'm kind of tired of yugioh always being ultra futuristic, of course there was always those scifi elements with the holograms and all of that, but i really liked the focus on it being an egyptian ancient witchcraft Game being revived and accidentally becoming a hit
I _have_ always found the futurism overtaking the occult elements to be very odd.
@@christopherb501it was there in GX and in the first half of 5D's, but during 5D's an incident occured that would make Konami decide to separate occult stuff and yugioh as far as possible. One of the VAs turns out was in a cult, and caused a lot of problem during 5D's, even causing major rewrites.
@@dizzydragon I think leaning into the game being an ancient game that used to be played around the ancient world after originating in Egypt, but something happened is an interesting long story arc to explore. It allows a reason for different sets and rules to exist, and a mystery for the show.
Cards on a table! Kids now are also REALLY into this shit right now. games like ZZZ are playing on this appeal now, kids are into Hipster shit like Cassette tapes and finding old screen less music players. Table Top role playing is also huge.
I think a DM reboot would do gangbusters rn for real
As a black person, I think the Egyptian themes made my mom way more likely to support it than say magic.
It's not as popular an IP because the game is impenetrable for a newcomer. Back in the day you could buy a starter/structure deck and get a game going. Nowadays it's hyper competitive with overly complex mechanics and combos.
That's what speed duel was for 🙄
Structure deck we're hot garbage until mr3 atleast the curret problem is we don't get new structure deck fast enough and that they don't include enough staples in the TCG
This is BS.
Starter decks were NEVER playable, not even as far as MRD format when i started playing.
It has held up consistently that way since then
@@davidjames6788
Those formats are already fuckn burnt. Specially goat, most people is moving over, only late adopters are still on Edison, but it won't last long
The anime made the game seem easier than what it ended up being. Not to say we need an anime to sell to newcomers, but it makes yugioh seem...nerdy, for lack of a better word.
Almost everyone I know that played Yugioh has either
A. Moved onto new card games in a healthier and better state
B. Stopped playing because the current state of Yugioh is just too complicated, convoluted and meta dependent.
Almost everyone that has previously played I like to ask if they would return if an new format was made that reboots the game to play more like it did 10 years ago. Every single one said yes. They would return to a simpler form of the game.
This speaks for itself but more than that, the game is in a terrible state for new comers. Its like stepping into the current season of a show thats been airing for 20 years with complex lore and story. Then expecting to understand anything. Of course you would be lost. You are stepping into water over your head and you cannot swim.
Yugioh desperately needs a reboot and the community is begging for it. Take us back to simpler times.
the tcg community will be always be ignored, the game made most of its money from japan and asia.
if you want changes go convince japanese players to rally the change, if you cant sorry buddy, youre playing a localized japanese game that was originally made for japanese audience, youre not the main target audience of the game.
Speed Duels kinda is that reboot though, it's far more casual, simpler, easier to get into. If you don't like that style of format and just want to play older Yugioh, you have formats like Goat and Edison, if you want automated play that makes the game a little easier to understand, Master Duel is there for you. There are options.
Ugh I feel this. I love buying the cards but I wish they gave more effort to speed duels so it can actually be a legit format people play. I am still eagerly waiting for Rush to appear in the west.
@@Borchert97 Sadly Konami sucked at marketing Speed Duels and now they are almost gone.
@@SonicLion2 Speed Duels isn't going anywhere, it's just that the product releases are being stopped, which is a good thing, they have nowhere left to go but into the 5D's era and I don't think they wanna do that, in its current state it only has Fusions and a card pool made up primarily of DM and GX stuff, which is about how it should stay in my opinion.
I’m a 32 year old man re watching the first yugioh with my 4 year old and we are loving every episode.
14:25 duelist kingdom rules weren't cheating, they were using a different set of rules because DK was set when the game existed purely as a form of shonen battle manga entertainment, battle city is when it started being about a physical card game
Yes! Thank you!!!
the dub also makes it confusing because they don't explain the part where mako moves his monsters' field positions to the opponent's side so it seems like the tide goes back beyond where it originally started, as opposed to just being reset to how it was before
True. It's basically a tabletop game like in the Manga. Heck, the Japanese original version tries its hardest to explain stuff even if the rules aren't coherent enough. The dub butchered it into just quips and one liners in-between characters because it was marketed to a different type of audience.
Cant find the anime online anywhere anymore…😢
I love Duelist Kingdom being a hybrid D&D game
I say we continue on right where DSOD left off! There's still stories to tell with Yugi, Joey & perhaps a return of Kaiba all sporting their newest & latest support with a brand new fresh but familiar story!
I don't think this would be a good idea for 2 reasons:
- Kaiba is probably dead and without the main trio it wouldn't feel right.
- That movie was Takahashi's goodbye to the series and wouldn't feel right to retcon it into just another chapter instead of the finale it was meant to be.
Ok, but here is the problem: DSOD follows the manga continuity, and most Yu-Gi-Oh fans did NOT read the manga, how do you expect for most people to follow the story without being confused with the stuff that did not happen in the anime adaptation?, having a remake that actually adapts the manga is the only way a sequel like that could work
@@SenpaiYGO i kinda hate the designs for DM and BEWD in that movie though..
I think there could be a few more stories, but honestly DSOD got to a point where it felt like trying to continue the story would take it beyond the actual scope of the story and be a lot harder to make something that felt right. Compared to just the end of the Manga where there was still a lot of story to tell even though it hit the major points it needed to.
A few things. You could do another yugioh movie or mini series based on just Lil yugi winning battle city v2. Or a gx movie where he travels around to free duel spirits and faces a new big bad gets new support EXT. Lastly takahashi confirmed kaiba IA alive he made it back to duel Lil yugi again in a illustration
As usual, whenever yugitubers try to discuss a reboot/remake of the OG manga, they completely miss the point.
People didnt watch the OG Yugioh for the card game, they watched the OG Yuguoh for the characters that just so happened to be playing a card game.
No one ever brings up what new character arcs or stories they could tell, just like in this video, they always just mention lmao lets use new cards which will be old in a year with how fast YGO soft rotation gets.
The videos already fucked when you even suggest Joey not have his sister be his motivation to win. That not only was what made you root for him even against Yugi but allowed his development to naturally go from "Using dueling as a means" to "Truly wanting to improve for the love of the game".
I feel like one shouldnt invoke Takahashis's name when the guy clearly loved the story and characters he created over the actual card game. The former should be the focus, not the latter.
That's true, people don't usually watch the show because of the toys, they buy the toys because of the show. I remember nobody was buying Beyblades until the anime started airing. (There might be some exceptions, like some people might have been into building gunpla before they saw Gundam, or some people might get into the franchise through a videogame.)
My buddies and I will play just regular card games and constantly call one another a third rate Duelist or use Joey or Tristan as an insult.
It was mostly about the characters, story and cool monster designs. The game was also fairly simple to understand.
Nowadays the focus is way too much on the game and the game itself is too complicated. The monster designs aren't as memorable either.
I will tell you a personal story as to why i think the game isn't as popular. I went to a yugioh night at a local game store. I wanted to start fresh and get a new card as i hadn't played in like 15 years. The owners didn't care (just not their game), but worst of all, players were not inviting. They were rude, impatient, and, just not a good time to be around. I left unhappy and kinda jaded.
Bro where I'm from, my card stores don't have yugioh. Some do but they Don't really have a variety of options to choose from. Heck! The only tournaments they hold there are Pokémon, magic, and one piece
Most card shops only carry MAGIC, Ygo isn't as popular as it used to be.
The community is VERY inviting and will happily teach people, you just fell into a wrong crowd.
The first and last time I went to a yugioh tournament, I won my first match and then played a guy dressed in full golf attire that wiped me out with dragoon. I didn’t even know about that card. I had adapted my duel links deck to tcg and didn’t know about the meta lol
You aint ready for us old timer bruh brah. Broooo
@@selfloathingweekly
Ygo is outselling mtg atm lol
Either reboot the original series or give us a second DSOD movie
Plus I think in DSOD they actually did show some combos but not overdoing it
Cant find the anime online anywhere anymore…😢
@@Pokeman79797 it’s on Pluto for free
I genuinely believe they should remake Yugioh as a manga canon show. Think FMA Brotherhood. Like start from the beginning and then slowly transition into duel monsters. Also incorporate Yugioh R after battle city to transition into the ending of the show.
That'd be awesome
That's basically a repeat the only thing I would want them to do is make an anime on their lore and engines everything else has been done
Why?
@@jx9700 bro the things they cut out didn't matter that's why they got cut it literally is tho the only thing cool they could do is make an anime about their engines everything else is just nostalgic crap cause grow ass men want their things they grew up with That's fing sad their are all these monsters that have cool lore they could do but all you loser just want a remake
@@jx9700 I get it your saying that the manga is different I'm saying I don't really care it's already been done do something else people love nostalgic stuff is so cringe
I think this convo is hard because without Takahashi, beyond a remake of the original series, I wouldn't really want to redo or expand the work involving his original characters and stories. I think a new series that explores the modern landscape of the game, or even a series that adapts the stories of the cards into an epic fantasy adventure would make for a great series overall. But thats me
@@alejandropupo i agree
You nailed it. The stories of the DM characters were all Takahashi and thinking anyone can do it better is insane. If we can't do it better, why do it? Yu-Gi-Oh is about growing and moving forward and the series did that by making new characters and stories that were amazing and worthy of the creator.
Yeah I agree as well Yu-Gi-Oh needs to tell the tales of the Duel Terminal and world legacy and all the other mini lore cards. And maybe follow the anime of modern kids/teens playing the game with modern decks like the OCG manga
While I do agree, I feel this will not revive the game whatsoever.
The only one's who will have an interest in it would be modern players. They will see idk Zeus and continue watching for the new familiar monsters.
While non/former fans will attempt to tune in, realize Yugi and Kaiba are nowhere to been in the new anime and simply turn the TV off.
I would love the idea but I personally feel it wouldn't work, except to entertain those who are already fans and maybe some new fans.
@7thHourFilms I feel it can be done as to say if we can't when no one tried is off. It can be done but how likely I say pretty Low cause of the general interest in doing it. As the writing of sm dose have some heavy flaws that do need fixing but overall chances are low.
I've been aching for a revisit to the story pre-Duelist. Really nailing the horrors of the Millennium Items and the focus on a variety of games.
Market it as "See the story of how Yugi first formed the Millennium Puzzle and the Shadow Games returned to the modern world!"
"See why he's truly called The King of Games!"
Really sell it as a prequel to the story most of the public know, including hints to future events. Imagery of Zorc and the Gods, flashes of Ancient Egypt. Cameos of future major players with an emphasis on game variety, but still selling the importance of Duel Monsters.
We need a TCG reboot (other than rush) where we bring back "seeing turn 10 without bricking, floodgates, or negates"
A lot of other card games have either a reboot or multiple formats or block, format or cards rotate. Yu-Gi-Oh is currently the only major TCG that does not do any type of rotation or have other playable format types at events.
@@SpartanTriggerI think some places now have started playing an Edison format on the side I’ve even seen some places do a goat format side event but not sure how many places do them or how often
@@SpartanTrigger One Piece? And ygo does have time wizard at events.
And no, it doesn't need a reboot.
RUSH WAS THE REBOOT
Definitely needs a reboot I was playing Master duel as a Yugi Boomer and my opponent was comboing for 3 minutes on my turn 😫 like huh? How is that fun
It’s the perfect time for a reboot. There’s been a revival of so many other IPs recently. Plus, Yugioh focusing on the old school/nostalgic side of things has done wonders for sales in the TCG… I’m sure Konami is aware of this and would love to take advantage of this opportunity. I just hope they do it justice! Would also love a GX/5DS reboot at some point… just after the Duel Monsters era reboot
I want reboot of Yugioh, BUT only if they include Season 0 or material from first 7 manga volumes.
dude season 0 is too dark to be shown on tv today. they would never do it.
@azurekite3870 idk man have you seen some of these animes ans cartoons kids watch these days?
I would not mind them doing that! My buy in would be if the dun won’t be toned down, and have the original tone to it
They definitely should.
@@azurekite3870 In the Battle City arc of the manga, Marik gets the mark of the tomb keepers carved into his back and he also stabs his father to death. Both of those things were censored in the Japanese version of the anime and it aired with no issues. They can do the same for the rest of the scenes that are too violent to show.
i think anything less than a faith adaptation of the manga is a huge disrespect to takahashi’s memory. he deserves a faithful 1:1 adaptation of his work and not* the censorship that the original was blasted with
Konami owns the 4kids dubbing studio. This idea of uncensored YGO anime is a pipe dream
Especially if they do it in the same style of Dark Side of Dimensions. Or at least closer to it and more detailed than the original series.
That way the series can flow right into the movie and make complete sense.
I think the story beats should be identical but I wouldn't mind the duels being updated to make them more interesting as well as help hype new set releases
Isn't 4kids dead? @@soukenmarufwt5224
Frankly I don't want another half baked trainwreck like Sailor Moon Crystal...
A Yugioh OVA to honor Kazuki Takahashi with a strong animation team would be amazing
It will look like rush anime garbage
@@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203There anniversary animation looked fine…
I think that if we get a Duel Monsters reboot/remake, the likeliest scenario is a faithful adaptation of the manga. You make great points about how it doesn’t reflect the game of today, but I think that Takahashi’s death may give Shueisha cold feet about any transformative aspects. The industry places a lot of emphasis on the original creators and their wishes, and with Takahashi no longer around to approve things, if they do move forward with a reboot, I could see staying faithful to the manga as a way of preserving his legacy.
One anime that got around this was “Itazura na Kiss”, a romance series that never finished due to the sudden death of the author. When the anime was made, the late author’s husband was consulted on how his wife had intended to end the series.
Recently, there was also “Berserk”, which has continued publication after Miura’s death, with an assistant taking the helm. So, one benefit of Yu-Gi-Oh! being a large multimedia franchise is that it’s possible that there are people in the system who are seen as someone Takahashi would have trusted.
Perhaps to avoid all of those issues, however, they might instead choose to adapt something like OCG Stories, or one of the other ongoing manga?
I want a straight up adaptation of the Manga. I want to see a guy go blind with censor Mosaic, I want to see an escaped convict set on fire, Joeys former delinquent gang, Psycho Mokuba and his kids meal poison roulette, Shadi's Villain Arc, Death-T, Yo-Yo- assaults, Grandpa's soul stuck in a video tape and having to communicate via camcorder, Joey delivering a beatdown on Bandit Keith, no Virtual World arcs...
An OVA is exactly what we need even more so when you think about how much anime is accepted now versus 2000. It won't HAVE to remove or censor anything.
Won't happen.
12:30 This. You can't bring in brand new people (primarily children or teens) into the card game if you're going to bombard them with hundreds of different combos out the gate. Keeping things slow and straight to the point with more relatively simple strategies will ease new people (or returning folk) back into the game.
Edit: By bringing in a reboot of the anime, they could even have the chance to create new cards for some of the other archetypes being shown. Maybe Pegasus shows up to use Millennium Eyes Restrict and activates a brand new unseen spell card that helps that archetype (please do this). Maybe Bandit Keith during Battle City reveals a brand new Zera the Mant monster and with new support cards.
I'd actually be way more thrilled if they announced a Yugioh anime about the card game lore, rather than the same old thing we've seen before.
You basically described why I and many don't like meta
Brain worms does that to people
I wouldn't mind a reboot, but if they do one, I hope they go through and remake every series, cuz we didn't get all of GX, 5ds was cut short, and Arc V could be improved past the first season
Zexal and Vrains got a cliffhanger ending, so might aswell do a 3rd season of those too
@@bl00by_ yes yes to all of that
Arc-V IS the series that most warrants a remake.
Unfortunately nobody cares about those shows. When people think of Yu-Gi-Oh, we think of things like Yugi, Kaiba, Exodia, God cards. People want that nostalgia and the DM is what people mostly resonate with so if a reboot ever does happen, from a business standpoint making a reboot of the original DM anime is the way to go.
@@JuwanBuchanan yes, but since bonds beyond time Is canon for DM as well, they would have to go at least up to 5D's, wich are the three series that are actually connected.
why do people make fun of attack the moon or makos ocean field ? the whole point of duelist kingdom is that it was a whacky themed tournament it wasnt standard format in universe. They even explain it and people still dont get it.
ah but you forget that in Duelist Kingdom Joey's slamming down Flame Swordsman and I think from Episode to Episode the card for it will change from a normal monster to a fusion monster (the actual image of the card, not how he summons it) so there is still plenty of goofy stuff outside of the "custom like" field power bonuses.
For me I think a “sequel” to the original series would bring more people in than a reboot. Digimon tried a reboot a couple years ago and wasn’t successful. Maybe a sequel with yugi and friends in the future as adults with kids of their own (help bring in young audience but also coinciding with the general age range of the original viewers in real life) having to face off against new or returning threats from the past. Yugi having to learn the new techniques would be a great way of drawing the old audience back in by helping to explain the game as it is now. Let me know what you think! :)
Yeah. I'm so tired of reboots and retellings. Just give me a decent sequel. It doesn't even have to be about yugi and co, it could be about another group of duelists in another city with another group of millennium items. If they cranked up the shadow games, aged the cast to like... 28 maybe?, had original characters show up from time to time and put it on adult swim I honestly think it would do well. Maybe something like the last airbender to Korra, but not a bad show.
A manga accurate Yu-Gi-Oh anime would be sweet. I think we really just need a Yu-Gi-OH 2 for the card game though. A sequel to DSOD, either a movie or series, would be great too. *They could just show the card text on screen, as part of the LP UI that everyone sees already.
Or just a god damned subscription price for Master Duel and Duel Links. Should also just combine those into one game.
I think it would be cool if they do a different perspective with new characters that will follow them in the same time period as Duelist Kingdom and Battle City, but with a more grounded story (without having to save the world and all that, that's Yugi's job lmao). Imagine a few characters that are invited to the Duelist Kingdom and you follow their story and how and why they are there and we only see Yugi and the gang in passing or in the background in an episode or two as an easter egg. Then next season we follow the main characters into the Battle City tournament. For the cards, we can have some cool new cards that wouldn't be too over-powered but they can be some new support cards for some less used cards in that time.
I think this will bring the old fans back into the series because of the beloved arcs of Duelist Kingdom and Battle City being shown from a different perspective, and also maybe new fans that can follow the duels easily without having to be introduced to a lot of different summoning ways or combos, etc.
If this goes well, they can continue to create different perspective of new character in the Duel Academy in GX, where they experience the same events as Jaden but they have their own struggles and we follow their story, and the main events from GX are just shown for an episode or two.
It's a tough ask, but I'd only want a reboot if it were based on the manga. Kazuki Takahashi's horror classic deserves a faithful adaptation.
I mean they could always adapt the general plot while replacing the different games for more card games (probably not every instance, but there's quite a few you could replace)
I never read the manga but I do know it was a lot darker than the anime was. I wouldn't want a full reset for the anime though, cool as Duelist Kingdom was it wouldn't translate well into the game if that's why they're trying to reboot it.
@@scattershot666That's kind of the problem. If they were to reboot it, I think it should be as a tribute to the manga that started it all, not as a vehicle to sell their current product. That's partly what led to it being gradually toned down more and more. (Going from the manga, to Season 0, then to Duel Monsters, then to the dub.)
@linkinboss2 They don't even necessarily have to replace the games with card games, except for one or two, there are cards in the irl game based on shadow games and punishments that could be brought up as in show inspirations.
@@darthjoe91 Yeah, I strongly believe that a a good adaptation honoring the legacy of the late Kazuki Takahashi would have all of the shadow games as depicted in the manga, then leading up to Kaiba awakening from his canonical coma for card games.
I hope Konami watches this and realizes how cluster f**’d they’ve made their beloved series. They have totally ruined the game and all these different shows and formats now slap them in the face if they ever think about a reboot. They’ll realize how hard they made it on themselves. I just want OG Yugioh, and synchros were fun. Anything past that is a cluster f***
The extra deck should have remained fusion deck. And they should have focused on what they already had like ritual or gemini or spirit or union.
@@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203nah
Ask them to bring Rush Duels.
Unless Takahashi said he was okay with the idea of it while he was alive or they followed the Manga to a t I would find it pretty disrespectful to him to try and cash in on it again
I'm not a fan of the idea of rebooting the original DM anime. If Kazuki Takahashi was alive then maybe, but reworking his most famous manga after his passing is disrespectful in my eyes.
I wouldn't mind seeing a new series that's again more mystical. It's sad that the setting became somewhat generic sci-fi after the first half of 5D's. To me ancient magic being used in modern times was always more fun. I hope we see more of that.
More than anything is like to see Konami Animation expand on the card art lore they teased at the start of the year.
I'd love to see them go more into the Vanguard Anime route, where you actually see them open packs, talk about Meta, change Decks, try different strategies etc.
Cause Yugi is the "King of Games", but what actually is that? How do you achieve that? For me it would be him actually being someone who can adapt his deck in a way to always counter and win the Meta with unique strategies. Instead the anime always had the "one of new card of the week" thing, were the "main cast" were the characters without any actual strategies. Meanwhile all the villains had decks that actualls were build around a certain type or strategy.
That way you could have:
Kaiba: The veteran pro gamer who always has the most updated Meta deck/cards and shows us what it's like to be a pro
Yugi: Who's good at the game and the underdog who counters the Meta with unique and outdated cards used in new strategies (like how Upstard Goblin suddenly became relevant back then)
Joey: Who's more or less representing us. The new dude who thinks the cards look cool but kinda has to get into the game and slowly learn how to actually be competetive and sorta becomes a inbetween Yugi and Kaiba
DSOD was a lesson in letting go that released 8 years ago, and people still would rather take a space elevator to Egypt 3000BC than move on.
Paul, you really came out swinging there with the commercial for nostalgia. I was not prepared for it, you got me right in the 10 year old feels!
I wouldn’t mind if they did a REMAKE but a REBOOT is a fresh start over. Since Takahashi has passed, a reboot where they take the story in a new direction, absolutely not. I saw it with DB Super and Scott Pilgrim what happens when they try something new with an established story. They REALLY need to readapt the original manga all the way through. Volumes 1-7 and all of Duelist and Millenium World.
DB Super and Scott Pilgrim had their creators involved so what does Takahashi not being here impact?
@@gabrielfeldinger6533 DB Super and Scott Pilgrim Takes Off had their original creator involved and were case studies on how badly that can go. One where the creator wasn’t involved enough, Super, and thus the product was a flanderized narrative mess. And Scott Pilgrim Takes Off, where the creator was DEEPLY involved, and the series STILL I mischaracterized, flanderized, and downplayed the original work and its characters. Now imagine a series where the original creator has NO say because they are DEAD. And as the video suggests, the series gets rebooted and the story gets meddled with and redone. How is that respectful in anyway first and foremost to Takahashi. But secondly, that would genuinely be a disservice to the work he did that NEVER got a full adaptation to begin with. Repeating the sins of Scott Pilgrim Takes Off should not happen. Yugioh is heavily censored, half the world doesn’t even know that the first 7 volumes exist, yet it should be rebooted instead of remade? All in all, it would be a disaster on a marketing front and insanely disrespectful.
@@gohan7926 Your point is that a yugioh reboot would be bad without Takahashi, but you listed shows you thought were bad where the creators were involved. By your own statements, creator involvement doesn't affect the final product because, creator involvement or not, its still bad. There's no connective tissue between those statements, there's no logic.
Also Scott Pilgrim Takes Off whips ass and massively improved on the original so idk what you're on about.
@@gohan7926 Bro you are literally arguing against yourself. Your own examples were made with the involvement of their respective authors. I get that you're trying to say 'if bad with authors then worse without them" but your evidence has literally no correlation with your argument.
Imo, there's some really cool ideas to have with a reboot. If Takahashi was still alive, I would kill to give him a chance to go back through and do what he wants, whether it be from season 0 or rewriting parts along the way. But leaving the original property in other hands without the chance to get input sits weird, definitely possible to do great, plenty of examples of, but weird.
I do think the biggest thing would be streamlining the pacing. Yes you need to have extensive dialogue at times, especially since in most cases, they're just sitting around playing cards. But getting closer to the duel flow in DSOD where it's closer to the actual game (at times) and flows well because they know they're on a clock, a lot of the anime is "Well I did this, and this and A-HA clutch card for an insta kill no matter how far I was behind" after having just finished the original manga and trying to get back into the shows more. There is very little tension in the duels themselves at times, most of it is the other factors. Let them play the game, be fine with handwaving that they put their cards face down, not declaring every slight move, but still give insight to their thoughts and strategies.
I think aiming it at the teenage-young adult from the outset would do it more favors too versus the anime's initial take where it was brought to be targeting a younger base, then 4Kids targeting even younger. I think the censorship actually opened some really fun ideas (Shadow realm, some of the redesigned horrific ideas) but more often put them in a corner where they have to break tone. What you mentioned at the end is an interesting idea too, Rush duels could be an interesting way of handling it, I haven't seen the anime, but it lets them do the newer properties with relatively simple rules that are a bit easier to adapt and, from what little I've experienced in Duel Links, reasonably reflects the very early abilities and beatstick card style. That said, it fits weird with the strategy and styles of those classic characters, there's probably a way to do it, but I'd probably rather them just play the original game with some easier to follow strategies that take a few turns like ye olden days. Partially out of nostalgia, partially out of audience ability to follow if they look away for 2 seconds like me in Master Duel trying to figure out why my screen says Defeat right after I accepted the match.
A continuation of the Duel Monsters series would be my first choice. Something that picks up after Dark Side of Dimensions, and has the same amazing animation quality and fast paced duel choreography. My second choice would be a series focusing on the Monster characters themselves, based in their world. Getting to see my favorite decks brought to life as characters in their own series would be arguably as good as seeing Yugi and Kaiba again.
None of this would attract new fans.
Shueisha is not gonna allow it. It's not marketable for them. Takahashi alive or not, wouldn't change that fact. The manga is finished. The anime adaptation we got has the canon ending. When people bring up Fullmetal Alchemist, Hellsing OVA or HxH, that they've gotten remakes and such, the difference is that the 'original' anime, as people call them, was made BEFORE the manga was finished. Yu-Gi-Oh's final arc was rushed bc Takahashi's publisher told him to finish it. The rating after Battle City dropped, and sensei being in the hospital for 40 days also didn't help. That's why the Millennium World arc is so short and unbelievably rushed. Battle City is technically 16 books (depending on the type of book that you have)! DSoD was requested by Shueisha, the director asked Takahashi to write for the film. How much that sensei had written for the film that was used is up for debate bc you can clearly tell which scenes were made by sensei and which for marketing purposes. Overall, if Shueisha sees a profit opportunity, then maaaaaybe we might get a reboot. But I'm certain that the only reboot we might get will be like Zexal (bc Zexal beat by beat is DM for modern audience of that time).
Another thing they can do is release uncensored version of the orginal show .
Season 0 is not a separate thing. In the manga it's the first 7 volume. So if Konami decided to make a manga accurate reboot, they must start with it.
@@jadenkudo3008 There is no Dragon Ball Z in the manga, yet Kai still begins in the Sayan saga, skipping "Season 0" of Dragon Ball.
@@genyakozlov1316 Kai is not a reboot or remake, just a remastered version of Z without fillers. For the 20th anniversary Yu-Gi-Oh had the same, a remastered version of Duelist Kingdom and Battle City, which only aired Japan.
So here’s a story for you:
When I was a kid I was so into all the duel type games, beyblade, pokemon, Yugi-oh, ect. I would see the other kids with their decks duking it out in the hallways, in the cafeteria, the kids would circle around and as a kid with no friends and loved the games all I wanted was to be part of this but sadly my parents refused to buy me any of the games. But a few years later lo and behold I was finally given some pokemon cards for my birthday because they looked into it and deemed It more okay than the others I guess so I got my first card. I was so excited until I got to school and Imagine my shock when they got confiscated because of that infamous schools starting to ban cards era. I was so disappointed that I finally got them only to be told I couldn’t play with them.
With no one to play with, I kind of just gave up on asking for more.
Years later I’m an Adult with adult money and I can buy my own dang cards, so around last year I started to try and build my own deck and had this little fantasy of tournaments and playing against other players. I even rewatched the whole Yugi-oh franchise to prepare myself but again SHOCKED. You see I stopped around Zexal but didn’t really watch it in full depth as the past ones so I had no idea there were newer gens after Zexal. It didn’t take long for me to realize the game was totally different from before, I even tried to get into Master duel to understand it better but it’s just overly complex and feels like to much. I instantly didn’t like the play and only like playing classic style.
This is my personal opinion: they need to start having separate rooms and separate tournaments for classic players and new gen players. It’s way too much to ask new players to adapt to such complex rules and heavy competition of people who perfected it to a T.
TL;DR: They need to make separate competitions for people who play classic and new gen. New gen isn’t Player friendly.
"Classic" Yugioh was get Yata-locked, no offense but you seem to like the IDEA of playground Yugioh and conflate it with the actual old game
@@daimer8660 When I meant classic I meant with without the Link summons, XYZ summons, no Pendulum’s, ect.
When I said I wanted to play with others when i was younger, I didn’t mean that was my extent knowledge of the game since then I have played quite a bit the way it used to be played with some friends, I know you technically can play without these if you ask but it seems to be taken with more malice. I also meant other factors like card shops and competitions as in local and small not the big tournaments.
If this still doesn’t explain enough or I’m not being articulate enough with explaining what I mean, I think playing the way it was originally played when the game originally came out is still a valid way to play and I wouldn’t consider it just playground because it’s still a solid game which is what made it what it is today. Sorry if you mean something else and I’m not understanding it.
Those do exist. Edison and Goat are getting a lot of traction
I’d hope for the series to have trap cards function like trap cards again, where they’re a reaction to your opponent instead of being basically spell cards.
@@AlmightyKevo i fail to miss the part where impulse and impermanence aren't a reaction ti your opponent's actions
@ you just ironically named a trap that can be played straight from the hand like a spell card… What you gone mention next? Evenly?
Besides the issue of the game being practically unapproachable to new/returning players, let's be honest about the "resurgence" of Yu-Gi-Oh... it's not that big of a deal. If it was, there would be substantial motivation to actually make Go Rush available outside of Japan. When even Crunchyroll is like, "Nope, don't have that one.", you know that NOBODY cares.
The one thing besides Noah Lyles pulling out cards that really got the Internet buzzing was that anniversary video that made everyone think we could be getting a Monster World anime... when it turned out to basically be an ad. That's it. Nothing else. There's no product release, no merchandise, no influencer tie-in that's going to make a big difference. Ironically enough though, they actually already have the answer and just don't want to do it.
Don't make a reboot. People are tired of them. They're tired of the same old crap being retold and they want something new. Instead, do what people THOUGHT Konami was going to do. Make a Monster World style anime. Tell the stories that are being told in the card game. Give us the story around all the Albaz/Branded stuff with the Tri-Brigades, Springans, Swordsouls, etc. Animate the story of Visas Starfrost and their journey across the galaxy with the Tearlaments, Scareclaw and Kashtira.
Yes, you can also get to a point where you could do stuff about the Dark Magician, Blue-Eyes, and other nostalgic archetypes. Point being, they can make a new Yu-Gi-Oh anthology series that is actually new AND draw in fans AND promote the new cards without it being another story about Yugi and Kaiba getting duel boners for one another. They just don't want to because that means spending money and taking a risk.
Konami just doesn't want to.
Literally this. Game aside - This would deadass make them millions too like???😂😭
@@YM-cs9zd and if dark magician girl is the main character like come on everyone like dark magician girl this show would pull everyone in just for her appeal!
It would be cool if they did anime adaptations of Yu-Gi-Oh! R and also the manga versions of GX, 5D's, Zexal and Arc-V
well if they do the arc v manga they will have to change parts of the story especially the ending .
@@mohammedhany5640 Back to the future didn't cause people to go into an uproar because Marty almost slept with his mom, so why does Arc-V manga?
I myself am a bit of a yugi-boomer. I've kept up with the game at a glance but haven't purchased new sets since Shining Victories. I wasn't a fan of pendulums and then when the master rules around Link monsters originally harmed other monsters in the extra deck, it just felt like they weren't really thinking about the integrity of the gameplay and just slapping whatever quick fix they came up with that day.
That being said, I still love YuGiOh heavily. Edison and goat formats are my preferred way to play(although I genuinely enjoy XYZ monsters) and the recent retro reprints inspired me to build a retro cube. It feels nostalgic and reminiscent of childhood, but I also have my modem sensibilities and years of experience playing tabletop games behind it, making for that "modern strategy" touch you mentioned about the characters not needing to cheat to make things interesting.
On a seperate note, or at least a point to make in terms of accessibility for new and/or returning players. If you want to play modern YuGiOh at a more fun pace with interaction and not the insane combos that lead to solitaire strategies; make decks singleton. By eliminating duplicates, you morph the gaming landscape heavily. There's a lot more variety in gameplay, and although there's more chance for bricking, your opponent has that same disadvantage. Only having a single copy of any one card definitely makes the gameplay less repetitive and overall more interesting in my opinion.
I don’t think it’s possible to reboot the franchise without also rebooting the game, and by doing that, you have to get rid of the last twenty five years of OCG and TCG cards. You have to start fresh with an approachable product, and that product is Rush Duels.
I think there's some truth to that.
and for someone who plays Rush duels on paper exclusively with english translated proxies with a local
Its really good and can get complex at times
But Rush duels Is not the same even though Is an amazing idea
@@camilomarchesi1793 Well yeah its a whole different beast
Rush duel summon 5 draw 5 is pretty much a different game
do you think it's lack of popularity comes from TOO MANY different cards? I think this would be an interesting topic to think about. There's just too much to think about. I was a massive YuGiOh fan... but now i just think there's too much to keep up with.
Should do a fullmetal Alchemist brotherhood. Follow the manga closer, keep the most VAs possible, and better animation.
Making it a anime only remake is meh imo especially if they put modern cards. The way the modern game is played each game would end in 1-3 total turns it would be complex and boring.
Your argument of trying to slow roll duels literally proves that the anime HAS to misrepresent the game to make it entertaining. People trying to then play these decks will be crushed just like if they tried a goat deck by modern decks.
On one hand, I would love an anime more faithful to Takahashi's manga, on the other hand, Konami already milks DM so much I'd rather have something new.
As someone who hopped back into collecting cards i wanted in my childhood during COVID in 2020 (nostalgia hit in an extreme way) and wanting to potentially play again, going back to it was way too much. Even trying the Switch game and master duel like people recommend its just not a fun game anymore, its trying to beat your opponent as quick as possible, instead of the ride up to the win that makes the game an experience and more like the tv show. That all happens when youre by yourself, figuring out what the meta is, the perfect deck for whatever tournament youre going to. Which, if you have fun with that more power to you and keep that up. To other people trying to hop in again/for the first time thats just not a fun game.
Especially to players like me, who would just like some more Dark Magician/Red Eyes/Summoned Skull/overall classic support. They couldve overcomplicated the support systems for the monsters that players loved, but it got too complicated with way too many classes/ways of play/monster type/card type etc. Seems like Konamis catching on to that with more Dark Magician/Blue eyes support but considering the way Konami designs cards (Cards/new types are typically made 7 years ahead of time on average) its too late unless they maneuver in a new way.
They should take more notes from Pokémon, as much as i hate to say it.
@@Ughstopped dude, there is a playable yugi deck and exodia is actually winning tournaments atm. Yugi deck is kinda ok (needs more sauce but can win vs good decks a few times), and exodia is lowkey good. Neither deck does long sequences nor use the extra deck a lot. Unless you count using 2 monsters for silhouhatte rabbit and activating a fusion spell clmplex.
My exodia deck doesn't even use a lot of modern cards. I think its ash, shifter and secret village but that is 15 year old by now. It uses old stuff like super poly, lava golem, exodia pieces and the new support which are retrains of old cards like millenium shield. There will be a tournament playable and relatively affordable bewd deck in 4 months.
We live in an era where anime decks are playable, yet you still find reasons to complain
Why not embrace the nostalgic rehash obsession and make a series where characters make decks based on their ‘heroes’ or faves. It’s like duel spirits except the spirit is basically a duelist from the original series. Heck, imagine if the main character ran a Kaiba deck to switch things around.
I like this one
I had a simmilar idea, but rather than being randoms who where just fans of the old heroes, it was the actual kids of the OG cast.
I like this idea as long as it isn't DM limited. I know a lot of old school players don't like anything past synchros, but it's still Yugioh and taking inspiration from all the series and archetypes that haven't appeared in the anime would be the best. Especially if you center it around self improvement and deck construction, using actual strategies.
Some characters in OCG structures are basically this.
They have a Kaito cosplayer that plays Galaxy-Eyes and currently a Yuya with a modern pendulum deck.
Noooo
Here in my city is about to have a TCG event in halloween, i was surprised there will be pokemon, digimon and even dragon ball tcg matches / tournaments, but no yugioh at all....
It sounds good in theory but there is no way you could do a reboot. Trust would be lost, because all cards would crash the hardest they ever have, and no one would feel confident in buying cards. There is literally no way to do it other than making different formats. That essentially *is* rebooting.
It is DEFINITELY the time for THE YuGIOh remake..
But it'd have to be passion-filled and a truly dedicated show/TCG-revamp.. Slow in power like the original TCG sets, way more fun to actually play when every turn isn't a solitaire game.. lol.. and make the shows Duels/cards truly match the effects of the real-world TCG..
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The idea of long combos being cut down is a realistic approach. Because later on in the anime when they have to get longer in order to show the rest of the combo, they can cut away to show another part of someone else’s story, then return later to show the next portion of the move. It practically demands a new approach to telling stories.
If people both in and outside the community complain about the way modern Yu-Gi-Oh is played I don’t believe rebooting the series with the cast running new cards would result in player retention which is what the game has been struggling with for years. It would likely be a Master Duel situation where initial interest is high but ultimately would seriously decline or the interest would only go as far as watching the anime or collecting older cards. I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with just playing GOAT format but there is a clear limit to what money can be made buying old cards.
Plus doing a retelling of the original Duel Monsters anime would require a new lower power format (no not a reset) alongside it so that at least people can have a space to play like in the anime. Not to mention there are writers of different Yu-Gi-Oh who have found difficulty with writing duels regarding modern cards.
Personally I’m in favor of an anime reboot telling the manga story or a continuation from the Dark Side of Dimensions. I know people want more time Yugi and Kaiba but honestly their character arcs are over however Joey did want to turn dueling into a long term career so he is the best option to continue the story. That’s not to say you can’t have Yugi or Kaiba in a hypothetical continuation but just make their appearances rare so it feels special.
Truly would only want a full Manga adaptation. As in there is no Duel Monsters manga, like there is no DBZ manga. Just start from the beginning and do the whole thing. It's either that or something completely new, which is a whole different conversation
Each series performed worse and worse because the formats SUCK after synchros… gosh I want old school format to be meta. So annoying what this game has become
Nah when Synchros hit the game was trash
@@CrysisFear show was TCG wasn’t too bad. A little more excitement anything after that is trash
@@PhiferFootball Synchros simply didnt feel Yugioh anymore. So i heavily disagree with the statement "oldschool format" when having synchros in it
@@CrysisFear synchros feel more kmfschl than any other current format 💀
@@CrysisFear old school **
Yes, a DM with Yugi. not the combo crazy shi+ that modern players vocally defend - there are millions more classic duelests who outnumber them by an order of magnitude who should be welcomed home
You mean out of touch Yugi Boomers who had no intention of ever playing this game seriously or pretend playground YGO is still relevant despite that standard is unacceptable in this day and age.
I wish to introduce to all of these classic imaginary duelists to Magical Scientist FTK
No? Put yourself in their shoes. Why would you invest to make it for an audience that by definition are against the product that investment is supposed to funnel them into? You're asking them to burn money for shits and giggles.
The modern players ARE players. Yugiboomers either play with their old ass cards outside locals or, more commonly, on free sims. That doesn't exactly sound like good business.
@@soukenmarufwt5224 If there ever was DM reboot, I want them to dedicate an episode on Magical Scientist FTK and have Yugiboomers realize they have all these years been gassing up the most one-sided "classic duel" ever.
That intro was fantastic I loved seeing that starting up WB.
I would really love if they rebooted the series. Seeing classic yugioh with the animation of today would go crazy
My 2 cents on the anime. The Duelist Kingdom and Battle City arcs were epic. This is where the focus is on a tournament so the card game itself takes center stage, and here the anime shines. The issue with later arcs is that they feel that they have to "1 up" the previous arcs in scope so they focus on a big story that is not all that believable/interesting. The card game also takes a back seat here. And also the characters themselves.
I care about Joey, Yugi and the gang, and want some epic Duel Monsters duels of course. I don't care about some ancient cult or saving the world and all that nonsense. If they reboot anything they need to know what worked/what didn't
This is precisely why a reboot won’t work.
Battle City is the worst arc of the series, both manga and anime, with all three filler arcs eclipsing it, and all the arcs before it in the manga too.
Haven't watched the vid yet but my pitch would be a new series featuring a young Solomon Muto, prof. Hawkins and Pegasus based in egypt at the time of the excavations. The series would end with the birth of Duel Monsters, and up untill then they would figure out a way to fight with the monsters that's more similar to a creature battler like they do in the final season of DM. I think an official DM-era creature battler would be a cool product, especially if launched alongside its own series.
I personally think that shifting the setting to an unimmaginably far future was the first of many mistakes konami made with the IP, as much as I love scifi, a setting that's more mystical than technological better suits the game, just think about the words used for the game mechanics: tributing, summoning, spells, rituals, etc.
Honestly, I’d be interested seeing a bit more of Grandpa’s past.
I will not be surprised if we get a reboot of Yu-Gi-Oh!
as far as Gameplay goes, I feel what the franchise needs is a proper visual format that can remain consistent no matter where it goes... and Master Duel has a pretty good showing of how that can be presented in anime form. the ultimate goal is to have a way to show a duel going on, even when the duelists aren't speaking at all...
basically having certain actions be accompanied by what would look like a system message... for instance, you normal summon a monster, you'd see a visual cue with the words "NORMAL SUMMON" flash briefly to show it. for Extra Deck and Ritual summons, you'd have the visuals for the summon with a sort of loading screen blink twice (FUSING, TUNING, OVERLAYING, LINKING, TRIBUTING) with the summon announced when completed (FUSION/SYNCHRO/XYZ/LINK/RITUAL SUMMON)
the same would apply to combo chains, Effect 1 would flash "MONSTER/SPELL/TRAP EFFECT", and responses would be pinged as CHAIN 2 onward. if you want a visual flair, you could have the effects chaining do an intensifying impact the longer the chain goes.
ultimately, if you can show a duel, with nobody speaking and still have people follow along to know what happened... then you can dedicate the silence for character interactions instead.
I think the original was just way more hype in the episodes. Plus all the mythology which was dope
Look how popular the new Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure anime is, could you imagine a new Yugioh anime with modern animation
I love that every time this comes up theres like a 10:1 of people supporting it vs someone saying it isn't needed or a good idea.
Funny, because I've seen more who want anime based on the lore before a reboot. So where does that leave us?
And I'm that 1
@@spicymemes7458 Those are the people who are still actively playing modern Yugioh. AKA the people Konami doesn't need to market to in order to revitalize Yugioh.
@@blebcat Listening to people who actually like your game is a much better idea than desperately chasing after people who hate it. Look at the release of Master Duel, so many people nostalgic for yugioh tried the game out and ended up leaving a negative review because it's not Yugi vs Kaiba T-set pass. Even if much of the criticism is valid, trying to pander to them is a waste of time, that's just not what the game is anymore and hasn't been for a very long time.
@@blebcat then go the DragonBall route and expand the original story. I'd be ok with that. That didn't need a reboot in order to stay relevant. Nor did Pokémon. Whether it be new movies or a 6th season of DM, follow up DSOD with a new story so you get all the benefits of using familiar characters in new situations and new cards without it coming off like trying to catch lightning in a bottle. It's not like we need the original anime with 3D effects in order to be popular again. It's that they decided almost 20 years ago to crank out spinoff after spinoff, and it got away from the original core story that people were already invested in.
If ever there is a Yu-Gi-Oh! anime reboot, it's best to just do a proper adaptation of the manga, and once the anime reached the Duel Monsters introduction, it's best to use the current OCG/TCG rule book while making sense with what actually happened in the manga. Best part about it is that they can easily introduce Bakura's table top RPG! Another option for Konami to sell new stuff.
@@ukiyasenpai imagine the timeline, where Takahashi was not railroaded into focusing on the Card game
Season 0 isn't really season 0. If you read the manga that's what it starts with and that's why it's about "king of games" and not "kind of duel monsters". Yami Yugi is all about all kinds of games
Great take! I’d add in a whole “start from scratch” campaign as well. What was a major turn off to the game to me was how one turn can take forever and be super complicated. My friends and I don’t even use anything past fusion monsters because it takes way too long and kills momentum and the overall fun.
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Also, in the spirit of board games, there also should introduce coop scenarios. This would make effects that may be bad in normal duels be more useful, like Life Point gain, attack prevention, strong defense values, burn damage, Attack modification, etc.
Yugi gets ash'd, effect veilered, TTT'd, and impermed turn 1 against kaiba after he defeats grandpa and insta surrenders to save time
How is he getting impermed and TTT on the same turn 🤔
Because he is a casual fan. He can't even th i nk properly, yet he blames everything he does wrong into the game as it is "broken and uninteractive".
Just b a d player stuff
Don't know why people assume Yugi would surrender when he sees this as another form of puzzle to solve. Aren't most duels with Yugi beating the odds stacked against him by his opponents?
@@drd141 Because yugiboomers are bad at the game. They can't see how a good player plays around modern interaction.
@@hazamax2139Always funny when you hear the complaint of "game only lasts 3 turns" when (assuming you don't brick) those 3 turns have way more interaction than 10 turns of setting and passing
I would love if card designs and lore went back to legends and mythology. Putting game mechanics aside, I love the Albaz cards and lore, but generally avoid a lot of Link stuff just because the futuristic stuff stopped being interesting to me after XYZ. I felt like Synchro was a good shot at futuristic/technological aesthetics, then XYZ shot it into space, wherein the cards could be pretty much anything. I look at a lot of staple Links like Accesscode Talker and I'm just not as interested as I am looking at the likes of Dark Magician, the heroes of GX, the Signer Dragons, or pretty much any of the posterboys of XYZ like Galaxy Eyes and Utopia.
I know a lot of people would focus more on mechanics, but what got me into YGO as a kid, and what brought me back, is because of that initial visual appeal.
I think the entire franchise needs a reboot.
Reboot with updated decks would be pretty sick. Having kaiba using all the new blue-eyes support would go hard, but what deck do you give yugi? Do you go pure dark magician, mix of dark magician and buster blader, dark magician and magnet warriors? Some of the new illusion monsters? For story I think your final idea where the story gets changed slightly to keep it fresh is the best one, but perhaps not as much changed as you originally said. Keeping it around the power level we saw in zexal or early arc-V I think would be fine
I expected a reboot for the TCG, so yes, I want so badly that Rush Duels is translated and brought to the rest of the world.
Rush might work in digital, but in paper, I'd give it about the same chance of success as Speed Duels.
@@spicymemes7458 Rush is one of the 10 best selling TCGs in Japan, beating both Cardfight Vanguard and Digimon. Japan might not have ever gotten Speed Duels so we can't really compare but Rush will likely do a lot better
@@gabrielfeldinger6533 but the card market in Japan is also vastly different than the US, too. I would love to be in Asian markets.
Just finishing my re-read of the book and would like a more mature take this go ( if they reboot) they don’t have to go whole hog on the violence but just keeping it more one to one from the books battle boxes, ventriloquists, and fathers grudges, though millennium world was very similar to the book the changes that were made make it feel worlds different. Id do not all but a few of the first few stories, i’d say the first chapter, tristan/Hondas puzzle (but rework teacher to look less like mai) the scorpion in the shoe, Kaiba stealling blue eyes at school, the digital pets, the arcade/ joe street fight, mokuba inviting yugi and joey over for poison lunch roulet, death-T, the trigger gun fighter and school festival grill hockey, you could also do the rebecca filler but you could skip it, monster world/Dnd arc for end of first season, (yeah i shuffled some intntional, you could also do tea getting held hostage in the burger joint but might be to much) then i’d just follow the comic but rework the duels to be more like the real card game. You do kingdom, dice monsters, battle city no filler cyber world, virtual game, waking dragons, capsule world, kaiba land tournament, you could do the events of yugioh R for something new, but i’d just go to millennium world but i’d still work kaiba into it.
For the OCG/TCG a reboot is definitely needed. But I think Rush Duel IS the reboot that Yugioh needs. As long as the game stays with Fusions for the Extra Deck, the game will be fine.
I do like your idea of sort of mixing the ideas together, like using similar ideas and such from the older show, but updating the character decks and such. I also love the suggestion of slowing down the plays for the Anime, the Yugioh fandom needs more of that now, since every duel nowadays seems to be OTKs if even that.
Yeah, the "nostalgia overload" thing you mention is happening all over the place, even in live-action stuff, a huge example of that is Star Wars. What I mean is like everywhere you look whenever you see Star Wars stuff it's always Luke, Han, and Leia or Darth Vader or Obi-Wan and so on and all the shows and movies they have been releasing and such have pretty much all been set in the time period of the Original Trilogy or the Prequel Trilogy and such, and a lot of fans have been getting tired of it and want stuff set outside the "Skywalker Saga" as its been called, which the books and comics have been doing, but it's not enough. Another big one is Harry Potter, fans want to see more stuff expanding on the Wizarding World like a project focusing on the beginning of Hogwarts and its founders, or one following Harry's dad and his friends during their time at Hogwarts and stuff like that, but it seems all that the studios and such want to do is remake the main 7 books and have the focus be entirely on Harry, Ron, and Hermione. Those are just a couple examples.
As far as what could satisfy the most amount of people for Yugioh, while a reboot seems a bit of a situation like you mention, I could see them marketing it as less of a reboot and more of a successor series or a sort of Alternate Universe sort of thing. What I mean is more something like X-Men '97 is to X-Men: the Animated Series or like what Pokemon sort of did with the more recent Pokemon movies, where the former is a continuation of the previous series and the latter is more or less the same basic ideas but they are allowed to tell their own stories that differ from any of the source material and change or omit certain characters or put other characters in those roles and such all while still keeping the main characters (in the case of Pokemon they kept Ash and Pikachu, but did new stories with them that didn't have anything to do with the main Anime and occasionally brought in other supporting characters and locations and such from the main Anime, but did different things with them). Yugioh does already sort of have this going for it as the Bonds Beyond Time movie and times in the Anime when the other protagonists go back and visit Yugi or that time period (like the duel at the end of GX between Yugi and Jaden) there seems to be hints of story arcs that they are in the middle of that we've not actually seen anything of, perhaps they could make an Anime of that or go and do something with the Yugioh R Manga or whatever as well as perhaps the other Manga stories that weren't adapted for the Anime or some of the stories from the video games like Falsebound Kingdom and such.
Whatever the case, while I personally wouldn't be opposed to a reboot of the OG Yugioh, as you said I know there's a lot who wouldn't want it. That said, perhaps they could do some expanding on the universe like I mentioned a lot of other fandoms want, like when we got that trailer from Konami of Yugioh Chronicles or whatever it was called where we explore the world of the Monsters and learn the lore and such of them that we don't get from the regular Anime, there seemed to be a lot of interest in something like that maybe that's more the direction they should go and make an Anime of that or whatever. Perhaps even do a crossover miniseries or movie or special or whatever where all the non-Rush Duel protagonists get together and have one big 6-way duel between each other (or maybe have like a big tournament between all them with their supporting cast and their villains team up or whatever) allowing them to show more modern cards and strategies and such as well as new cards made specifically for the project (that's personally been an idea that I've wanted to see done for a long time). Or dare I say do a live-action Yugioh reboot or story or whatever, that seems to be something many Anime and Anime-like cartoons (like Avatar: the Last Airbender) seem to want to be doing as of recent, to varying degrees of success.
I grew up with 5ds, zexal arc-v and vrains. Now I can only speak for myself, but I feel like the people from my generation wouldn't care if the og got a reboot since we don't have a connection with it.
Atleast I wouldn't care and be just annoyed that we would get even more blue-eyes and dark magician cards in main and side sets.
I started around the GX era because of the character Jaden. I was familiar with DM but never watched it cause it didn't interest me at the time. Despite owning some VHS tapes of sporadic episodes (which I long lost).
After watching through GX it actually made want to rewatch the YGO DM and play the game using simulators at the time. Eventually season when I looked it up online.
Much radically different from what I was used to. Though didn't pay it too much mind at the time. I kept marathoning DM using web sites.
My case I wouldn't care about a DM reboot cause as someone that actually plays high level ygo (cause I sucked hard when I started out as a kid) DM doest age well at all for us who actually play the game and grew up in a much different time.
If anything DM reboot will only appeal to DM fan and fans of the og lore. Not to us, guess you can say, next gen ygo
I started around the GX era because of the character Jaden. I was familiar with DM but never watched it cause it didn't interest me at the time. Despite owning some VHS tapes of sporadic episodes (which I long lost).
After watching through GX it actually made want to rewatch the YGO DM and play the game using simulators at the time. Eventually season when I looked it up online.
Much radically different from what I was used to. Though didn't pay it too much mind at the time. I kept marathoning DM using web sites.
My case I wouldn't care about a DM reboot cause as someone that actually plays high level ygo (cause I sucked hard when I started out as a kid) DM doest age well at all for us who actually play the game and grew up in a much different time.
If anything DM reboot will only appeal to DM fan and fans of the og lore. Not to us, guess you can say, next gen ygo
That's my biggest thing imo. I've almost developed a visceral hatred for Dark Magician and Blue Eyes just because of how they keep coming up over and over again. I think we got Blue Eyes support in 2016 with Spirit then 2022 (?) with Jet and now we're getting more Blue Eyes cards. Even in today's Yugioh, the game is honestly pretty interactive if you're playing a deck that's at least semi-competent (or you sack enough non-engine), we're finally out of the "Negate and destroy" era, and (as much as I hate him) Arise-Heart showed us that we can have interactive boss monsters that don't negate but are strong enough to command a game.
Would really enjoy a reimagining or continuation of the original Anime. But you bring up a good point how you laid out the turns to slow things down. I wonder if that would work in Yugioh tcg today. For example you only get one action or two on your first turn same for the opponent. This includes summoning. Limit summoning, and magic cards. Have to plan your attacks and strategies. It could be awful but your concept was interesting.
Great vid!
I dont know about a remake, but i feel like a movie based on joey becoming the king of games and showing the duel between him and atem/yugi (never clear who he beat) to get back red eyes
@@RedvertizeGaming Joey had such MC potential. I’d love to see that.
So funny I was thinking about this just the other day, and here's a few paths I would be interested in. So similar how Gundam Origins gives us a different side the original Mobile Suit Gundam, or how the Power books re-centers the story around another character, I'd be into seeing a spinoff series that provides us with more storytelling for another character and titles it around them, for instance if you did this with Kaiba or Marik you could have a lot of mileage with just giving us their vantage point and showing their motivations, and you could end Marik's run at Battle City; Kaiba's you could start or end wherever, relate it to DSoD even. The other option I could watch is a story after Dark Side of Dimensions where there's just more supernatural threats to Domino City and Yugi has to duel through them all (w/o Atem). I know DSod isn't canon, but they had something there they need to run with, and you could introduce a lot of new modern cards and tactics.
Oh I thought you meant, a CARD GAME reboot, which the answer is also a resounding YES. There's a reason why Master Duel was SO popular until people played the current game and the numbers dropped in droves.
Exactly
that commercial at the start was very nostalgic, but it also made me very sad lol
I'd rather have a remake made more faithful to the manga.
It's funny, I just watched DSOD a few days ago and was thinking along these same lines. I decided I'd like to see a series where we catch up with the original crew but, into early adulthood. Yugi now looks and sounds like Atem, is married to Teá, and makes games for Kaiba Corp. Seto has grown wiser after returning from dueling with the Pharaoh in the underworld, and Mokuba's finally gotten tall. Joey and Mai live in NY(she's a model and he runs a dueling academy or something) Tristan owns a chain of motorcycle repair shops in Domino, etc. They could slowly pass the baton to the next generation as the series begins to focus on their kids dealing with some new problems involving magic and monsters.
We DO need a new Anime, but I don't think we need more DM. We're gonna end up like Pokemon with Kanto eclipsing everything.
Yeah. I think they should do something clearly inspired by the first anime with Egyptian themes and magical items, but be it's own series.
I see what you mean, but I respectfully disagree. I just want more of Yugi and friends. I never followed after DM, and I would love more of it.
Despite it existing second, Blue-Eyes was Charizard first.
Its not end up, it already does. Look at the recent MCDONALD'S toys- red eyes dm blue eyes kuribo exodia etc etc not a single modern IP. So many more people loved the classic, they're just not team aps subs
@@davidjames6788 If we even gave half the attention that the original got to some of these, they too may see a rise in popularity.
The original also came out at a time when people actually watched TV. A series you probably wouldn't be interested in, you would give a shot as you're waiting for the program you wanted to watch.
11:50 I think its less about complicated combos and more about what story the combo tells. Like what does this effect represent? Why does this creature search for a specific card in the deck? If a coherent story can be told to explain the combo it can make combo heavy duels work really well. But yes I agree, two opponents dryly declaring card effects one after another is sort of off putting to new fans.
I don’t think we need a reboot, but a continuation would be nice. Look at Dragon Ball.
Dark Side of Dimensions opened the door for a continuation and it's like people completely forgot
@@spicymemes7458 IKR ?!?
i was like "oh yeah, now they are going to use this movie to launch a sequel series! With Yugi owning a shop & everybody out of school now leading to potentially more adult story with some season 0 action, this will be great."
i was wrong, that was it. Now it was cool ofcourse but it would (& still could) be cool to see a sequel
I still want the original manga, be completely adapted in new animation. I know a lot of Yu-Gi-Oh fans want true to life Yu-Gi-Oh duels and no other games. Which is why they enjoyed 5D's so much. But Yu-Gi-Oh has such a good underrated story that needs to be adapted. Of course I've never been such a stickler for the rules, which is why I enjoyed Arc- V so much.
I used to work at a card shop and kids would come in to buy cards and it was the same thing every time. Blue-Eyes cards, Dark Magician cards, Red-Eyes cards. Pick a DM archetype, and they’d want it. Konami pushes DM in our faces so much, that all the sequel series get drowned out, and the current generation of kids just watch that, and the generation that grew up watching the OG show have just ignored the new series completely. We don’t need a reboot because Konami can just keep schilling the original over and over and we’ll just keep getting the same stupid Yugi and Kaiba merch over and over again. The cycle never ends.
Exactly , Tho the other yugioh series are great (Zexal , 5Ds & Vrains being personal favorites)
The original DM series overshadows them so overwhelmingly in the public eye so much that they are hardly known,
A sequel series to the original DM would probably be the best option, with Yugi now running a gameshop following DoD,
( also some set rotation with diffrent formats couldbe nice, rather than ONLY this "all cards- a few bans" we're stuck in
12:22 Staples definitely help slow down duels too, so it helps stretch out combos and avoid overplay.
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I think a big reason is actually how the show airs and where to watch it. Back in those days everyone would watch a couple to several channels now there is infinite streaming and UA-cam. So I think "nerd culture" has become more a collection of niches. Like there are so many flavors of nerd now, at least that's my thought
Before I think there was less options and variety. I could be wrong I only had free TV so I could only see yugioh and stuff like that on weekends
Thats a potential commercial anime disaster - ftk on screen turn 0 or turn 1 otk / scoop / 5 negates? Speaks more broadly to the scope of the problem of todays game
You ain't wrong 🙂👍! We need a reboot of the OG anime ASAP. HEART OF THE CARDS GUIDE'EM TO THE REBOOT THE WORLD NEEDS❤
Mataza the Zapper, Maha Vailo and Summoned Skull for the win on a budget back in my day. Dang right, we need a reboot for Yugioh, Beyblade original series and Dragin Ball just did something similar. But we do need a Duel Masters too!!!!
😊 it's time
I tried jumping back in when the online platform first launched but gave up pretty quickly. Any game that is decided within a couple turns just isn’t enough to hold my attention.
WE NEED NORMAL NON-EXTRA DECK MONSTERS TO BE A FOCUS OF THE GAME AGAIN AND DECKS IN THE ANIME
W H A T ? ? ? ?
@@jx9700 vanilla and effect monsters but no synchro, xyz, link, etc
@@KingKasper So Rush Duels?
So you want rush duels? Because there’s no way you’re getting modern yugioh players hyped about normal summon La Jinn pass in 2024.
@@7thHourFilms I mean normal and effect monsters but no extra deck monsters so fusion and ritual are ok
I 100% agree. I think they could make a Yugioh 2.0, remake literally every single card up to Edison format, with new artwork, buff all the bad cards so they are decent and every card becomes playable, but keep the gameplay and power level similar to Goat and Edison. And do a reboot with all these new versions of the cards.
Everything after Edison is complete and utter dogshit trash and should be forgotten. It's a stain on the legacy of Yugioh. Modern is trash. It's insultingly terrible.