Chalta Hai INDIA: When 'It's OK!' is Not OK - Rajiv Malhotra in conversation with Alpesh Patel
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- Опубліковано 5 сер 2024
- Chalta Hai INDIA: When 'It's OK!' is Not OK
India once commanded 30 per cent share of the global GDP and led the world in most fields. But today the country is sadly a 'developing nation'. People often attribute India's sluggish progress to the Chalta Hai mindset of the masses. The book "Chalta Hai India" tests this hypothesis and goes to the root of the problem.
Are we really a Chalta Hai nation? Is Chalta Hai ingrained in our DNA or it can be easily exterminated? Will this attitude stop India from becoming a global power? How can we root out Chalta Hai from the society?
Alpesh Patel delves into this quirky Indian approach and answers these questions by examining the country’s pace of progress in fields such as education, infrastructure, films and sports since Independence. The book revisits our cultural, ideological and political history over three millennia to trace the roots of the Chalta Hai attitude of Indians. Interesting facts and unsettling inferences force the reader to introspect and awaken him to the need for an urgent action. Finally, the book charts out methods and suggestions on how to get rid of the Chalta Hai attitude and take India closer to the dream of becoming a developed nation.
Eminent thinker and intellectual Shri Rajiv Malhotra shares his views with author Alpesh Patel.
About Speakers:
Alpesh Patel, is a published author, a consultant and a mentor to start-ups with 20 years of corporate experience. He is a management graduate from SPJIMR and Engineer from NIT Rourkela.
Rajiv Malhotra is an internationally known researcher, writer, speaker and public intellectual on current affairs as they relate to civilisations, cross cultural encounters, religion and science.
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Rajiv ji…!!! My God.
You are astoundingly awesome. Every week or so when I watch you speak on various topics, you surprise me with your sharpness. I hope you stay healthy and hearty for a long long time. God bless you. We need you so much.
We don't like to hear about our mediocrity..perhaps.. That's the reason why we look for greatness in the past..
Yes and learning about our past makes us believe that our potential is much greater than what we have been raised to believe it to be.
@@satyampandey2222 correct.... It's a weird situation
Can’t agree more..
Living on the past is a nostalgia and it come at a great individual cost.
Indian system is "bane raho Pagla, kaam karega agla. "
LOL. Long live the internet.
I died 🤣
Very good quote. It should replace "Satyamev Jayate" and the Ashokan Lions in the National Emblem should be replaced by 3 corpulent Indian Elephants (Appus)- One sleeping, One scratching its bum and One picking its nose.
Reminds me of my dad with whom I worked for some time during our family business. He would refuse to settle for anything less than perfect often leaving me frustrated and exasperated. Took a few years to realize what valuable lessons were those. Great job Alpesh on picking such a transformational topic. One may think this book is about changing a nation but I think it starts with changing onself.
Thanks for wishes.... Alpesh
This is probably the most important dialog related to India in our era. This is very much needed. When China is able to manufacture and market sarees in India, you know this dialog is extremely needed.
Rajivji please conduct SUMMER CAMPS FOR AGE GROUP 16 THRO 25 YRS TO TRAIN YOUTH . IT IS VERY VERY IMP .
Rajivji can do it on line in sessions as the 'Man Ki Baat'
@@umasarat2983 My apologies. Rajivji has already done more than any govt can think and do in a span of 10 years in a rigourous manner.Lets spread it to our children and youth.If possible the Infinity foundation books and Videos can be screened across the nation in the schools and colleges to create awareness.
@@bharathvyas997 Well said! I found this when I, an octogenarian survivor of Sepsis, briefly joined Infinity's Satsang, which was flooded with trivial suggestions by those who hadn't even read his books!
Not only youths, even adults and parents need to be re-educated.
Brilliant suggestion ....
I feel like there should be an entrance test for politicians at all levels to compete in the election. For most of the history lawyers were appointed as finance ministers.. Our finance ministers have always been lawyers.. How many of our politicians really know the constitution & law. Its not a job for everybody anymore..
This talk should be watched by every adult Indian.
My most favorite topic so far ..
putting such issues under one topic "Chalta Hai INDIA"
really gives us a platform where to gather such issues and address it as a whole ..
I think it is not done that way before this ..
Thanks to all involved.
Rajiv Sir, this is so enriching for me, cannot explain in words. Thanks you Alpesh Ji and looking forward to lay hands on Chalta hai India and Moron Smriti.
Sure. Thanks. Here's the link. www.amazon.in/Chalta-Hai-India-When-Its-ebook/dp/B07H9344L5/
What I love about Rajivji is that he is fair not only to the Hindutva cause but also critical of our modern Indian mediocrity.
Brilliant talk by Rajiv ji. I have bought the book after seeing this program
Is it as good as Rajiv Malhotra's? I think he makes more sense.
Rajeev sir, You are one of my living ideals.
Our Bharatiya Janata has two state of mind only ..
Inferiority complex
Superiority complex ...
We are either play victim or be excessively proud on things that we should not be ...
The day I came out it .. I was at peace with myself.. thanks to Bhagwat Geeta ..
🙏🙏
Extremely accurate diagnosis of the current Indian mentality: Chalta hai and cheap chauvinism.
Rajivji, Namaste .uour thoroughly involvement in this Infinity Foundation Cause,Dedicated yourself Devoted your Business, I follow u regularly. I feel guilty, not able to join your Movements of Sanatan Dharma, Sanskrit language promotion. Our Ancient Literature, Dharma, I m proud of u. Wish u all t best.Tathastu.God bless you. 🙏🙏🙏
Jugaad is intolerable . The creativity must be channeled .
No, jugaad in personal lives is tolerable to some extent, but in services to consumers is not tolerable at all.
Oh..Wah..Too good informative talk show.
Naman to my Guru Pandit Rajiv ji, foremost and then I would like to say that....I loved the story of Khan
When I was a child, the teachers had a great tolerance for errors and mistakes such that it became fine if you didn't perform perfectly. This instilled in me the "Chalta hai" attitude. Every time that I worked on something I would always set a negative offset in my mind that would stop me achieving full potential. I understand that parents and teachers wish not to demotivate children, but telling a child "You did good" instead of "You can do better" certainly is worse. I am an evidence of that.
The past is past. If you can acknowledge this issue now well enough, it's time to work on yourself. The change begins from within.
The chalta hai attitude comes from lack of tapasya. Indians don't work hard in India due to the ecosystem that has evolved during the past 70 yrs. If your progress/rewards r not associated with your merits but instead associated you belonging to a certain community then it is evident that the society won't produce the best humans.
In German they say, "OHNE FLEISS, KEIN PREIS" meaning there is no substitute for hard work.
Great discussion. However I have to disagree on one point. Whenever I had done the due diligence and worked with people who share my values on quality, I have found them in India whether it is civil engineers or plumbers or electricians or drivers. They are in general not doing well monetarily as people want cheap and a quickie work. As consumers the people have to demand better
Yes strongly agreed. This jugadu and jhat-phat kardo attitude of consumers only favours the mediocre skilled workers
The system has always failed the talent of the country. The people really drag us down. Agree so much on this. In India it seems that for every dream we are fighting not just it's difficulty but also the lethargy of people.
I died a little after hearing that jalebi story. God save us.
😂😂😂
Not sure whether he was referring to Prakash javdeker or Piyush goyal in that ...
कितने मिनिट पे हे जलेबी?
Here it is 1:28:00
Aham Brahmasmi - We are all Brahman, WE have to Save Us
This is eye opening and life changing.
India never had a central ruling body. The British introduced it and even now when Modi says one India, the people do not embrace it.
Wonderful work, Alpesh bhai. I'm going to read your book. I fully agree with assessment that as a society we lack of willingness to measure ourselves against benchmark.
Thanks Rakesh. Here's the link to the book
www.amazon.in/Chalta-Hai-India-When-Its-ebook/dp/B07H9344L5/
Namastey Sri Rajiv Malhotra ji,
You are charioteer of India and Santan Indian culture.
Thank you.
can't wait!
With all that I have seen with Shri Rajiv ji has done on all fronts (mostly alone), someday Bharat Ratna for him is not an understatement.
Namaste, the call to individual smart action and influencing others (specially key stakeholders) as well in the process, is the key take away for me from this brilliant talk. Long term vision incorporating insights from purvapaksh, creates the forward looking Dharmic framework for the tapasya to establish Bharat in its rightful place in the World. Demanding and delivering quality in measurable means is the yardstick for progress. Words are not enough to express gratitude to karmath karmyogi like Shri Rajiv ji🙏
To quote Swami Vivekananda" Take risk. If you win you succeed. If you lose you can lead". This should be the mantra.
beautiful .. simply beautiful
Really liked this conversation. Wish more people understand and realise this sooner than later.
This is great initiative to atleast bring first the change in the thoughts of the rashtra at large and with divines will the nation wide change in thought will also manifest in action .
Given the magnitude of the India's geography ,and troubles Its hard for a young individual to find where to start from and in this regard I will like to mention the idea of Rajiv Malhotra paraphrased in my words to ignite the spark in myself and all others .
5 things for the Indian youth
1) Grand narrative ( finding out ,who we were ,who we are and what we aspire to be as a rashtra)
2) Sankalpa , forming a resolve in context of the grand narrative
3) Tapasya - getting out of comfort zone and work on individual contribution towards the grand narrative in any field of expertise of the individual
4) Sangha - Connecting and forming a network of people of similar interest
5) yagya - this whole idea of grand narrative is a yagya which requires a sanklpa ,individuals coming together with their own Tapasya and then these individuals becoming a group and taking and the whole experience becoming a grand yagya .
Very nice suggestion. Spread this thought among your circle of friends to start with who are committed and share these values. I am sure the spark with spread like wild fire if there is committement, resolve, dhridnishya and shraddha. Good luck to you!
Nice book, purchased and reading in Kindle
Alpesh Ji and Rajeev Ji ... amazing
Pranaam awaiting to hear
Like him!Living in two worlds soul here anf flesh there!so easy to preach !
Excellent Sirs. I am doing it in my capacity. Thanks
Most important topic atleast for Indians.
This chalta hai attitude is making India grow superslow. People want others to fight for them against the corrupt system.
Eye opening info. Thank you sir.
Brilliant talk
Fascinating insights. I am surprised that after 2 years this has under 40,000 views only. Shows that people don’t care enough. Chaitanya hai ,
great discussion.....
The chalta hei is also an offshoot of caste victimhood mentality. I was always against this chalta hei and I was called as upper caste bigot for it. The point I was making had nothing to do with my caste or their caste but if I make it, they take it as upper caste patronizing.
U can tell them that playing the caste card when one is talking about 'chalta hai' is a logical fallacy. People generally stop their nonsense when you being in 'logic'. So do that from the next time ...
Well spent time in listening this
Blunt, hard-hitting!
Great talk.
This is the reason we compare ourselves with Pakistan and not china
Amazing talk!
This is all Indians can do. Just talk.
@@oneshot2028 And your achievement is?
Min 23. This is worldwide, proactive problem solving is seldom appreciated. People create problem themselves and act as if they salvage the situation and they do get worshiped as a hero
You aptly described our "couldn't care less" attitude.... I have read two of your books n it was extremely enlightening for me... I am looking forward to read this book... You are some of the few intellectuals left who are continually fighting against the systematic instillation of shame among many Indians esp Hindus about their culture n heritage by so called pseudo intellectual leftist academicians....
He said right
India isn't manufacturers and creating new things. This is really for sale like
Railway is for sale
LIC is for sale
ISRO is for sale
So many other .
Great discission, I support you
Rajiv Sir जी, please chart out some curriculum for younger generation and young parents so that they can groom better future generations. Parents born in 1950s to 60s had lost the hindu ways of life, so the people now in their 40s are lost. I am an evidence of that. We need to get back the precision that was practiced by our great grand fathers
Awesome!
Thank you
We need education revolution first 😓
We have our "GURUKULA EDUCATION SYSTEM " So we don't need any revolution, we just need to switch from a westernised education system to our own Indian gurukul education system.
Rajivji and alpeshji you nailed it . I think in our country what we also need is to learn how to take criticism to correct and learn, and work on it while the criticism should also be taught as to how one needs to be critical on anything and if it is practiced widely, the constructive discourse will be a natural consequence .
an eye opener...
Psychological demoralization - how would it go ,be replaced by Tapasya ? Who does Tapasya - why people are ready to go out of the comfort zone ? Are some of the questions coming to my mind by this talk !!
Can any one answer ?
Great discussion..
Great!
I am reminded of the following anecdote:-
The MD of the company called a meeting in connection with an important project. He said, "Bottlenecks, if there are any in our organization, I should be told of them."
A fresh MBA got up and said, "Sir, In all the bottles that I have seen so far, the neck is always at the top."
I would love to read this book. When one finds shabbily done jobs it is very frustrating, lt takes same time to do some thing shabbily and do it well.
The consumer behavior mentioned by Rajiv ji has more to do with Nehruvian socialist closed economy post-independence, rather than the "sepoy mindset". It is evident in Rajivji's own example, wherever there was government on the supply side, the consumer behavior was "chalta hai". However in markets such as clothing and food, where there is limited government control, the consumer behavior is different. I think the "chalta hai" attitude will go away we gradually move towards a market economy.
I Agree with your thoughts Rajiv sir
Please send a copy of your discussion to all the political leaders and corporate leaders of India and Indians.
Thank you so much sir for your thoughts. But one question came to my mind after watching these videos.... When we talk about indian culture and civilisation, Why we reduce it to hindu community only... Why people from other communities are not invited to these kind of nation building and society building discussions..even if they are very less in numbers, but are having same kind of mindset... they should discuss such things..... I have seen very few muslim people who talk about nation building and social reforms...only name of APJ abdul kalam i remembered....
I don't like the 'Chalta Hai' attitude either, but a big fan of 'jugadu'. You don't know what a big help this 'jugadu' is helping the people across Bharat! Now world is also appreciating this in many situations too.
This "jugadu" should not be frequent at the cost of professional work their may be momentarily example of jugadu which is ok but should not be the attitude of our people
The Change begins from within !
There is one aspect of production that is a constant and has increased, the population is the result of this production
Lol n counting
Self criticism is good. We have to improve a lot, no doubt.
Purvapaksha: Western work ethic is not always great. Anybody in USA who had to deal with a plumber, contractor etc. can tell how honest they are (not). CBS canada marketplace series, available on UA-cam exposes dishonesty and non-professional attitude in every aspect of their society. So chors and lazy bums are everywhere. As Rajiv Malhotra says western system of checks and balances keeps things working better, but only a little better if at all, in my opinion. Our historical baggage of despotic colonization, resultant poverty, slow recovery, large population and inefficient system are mainly responsible for us being behind the curve.
Namaste Rajiv Ji !
Sir @1.22 your point holds so right in today's scenario well. We still did not learnt any lesson.
This applies to India 100%. To my Bengal 200%.
When we use spiritual teachings to avoid responding to everyday reality in a responsible way we are engaging in "level confusion." We must be spiritual in our mind while responding normally at the level of the world. This is what Krsna was teaching Arjuna on the battlefield when he was reluctant to fight. Yes, the spirit cannot be harmed but the body can and it is our duty to protect ourselves, our loved ones, and our nation from harm while we are still living in this illusion.
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Please make it available in hindi and other indian languages.
Namaste
Even in PUBG mobile we are not able to win tournaments ,huge percentage of people play pubg in india ,but when a tournament happens in top 10 more number of Vietnam or any other country team will score but not Indian,
We Indian are in every field very defensive we hugely lack courage.
Pranam 🙏 beautiful discussion eye opening kindly have one discussion with HITESH CHENDEL founder of DVC and " Yug Parivartan " " Bharath Vishwa Guru" and he wrote the book of " Code Of Citizen's Conduct ( Rashtradharma)" the user manual of human machine. 🙏
we are forest where it is impossible to see beyond few meters . hence local optimization/inward looking. what you caanot see cannot be dealt with. in desert you can see far. hence institutional strategy building is possible.
The fundamental issue is the ideology that has taken over majority of Bharatiyas:
Rights vs. duties & responsibilities.
If each one of us do our job consciously and increase our efficiency atleast by 20% the country will come out with huge success
Good talk Sir 🙏 I get better clarity with every video of yours... God bless you Sir and hope the government listens to you not just hears you...iam doing my bit through the possible ways..
Hi Maddy , you said the right thing but then at once said government should listen to this. This is exactly what Rajiv is pointing out. Don’t blame the government. One should take the responsibility for oneself and demand the best and not to put up with mediocracy first starting in one’s personal life and not to pass the buck on to government or somebody else.
Sir aap k conversation hindi language me bhi available hona chahiye.🙏
Please, download the video and add dubbing.
Is there any authentic book available of Chankya's Arthshastra??
Yes. Kautilya Arthashastra by Kadrekar
Jalebi immmaaaaa cryyyyy
Rajiv ji, i am eagerly waiting for your new book Moron Smiriti
Mediocrity in ENTRENCHED into our society. Right from our school gatherings to 26 January parade at Rajpath!
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Rajiv ji you didn’t contact Rtd Prof Mudigonda Shiva prasad of Osmania university yet. It’s necessary to your campaign.
I cannot agree more with Rajivji. This attitude all pervasive, be it corporate working or social life. This is very unfortunate. I wish, our younger generation realises this and systematically dismantle Jugaad culture
Then we wouldn't be India. But we would be like the boring very orderly stiff western society.
Listening to them gives me fits if laughter.
In India footpaths are damaged several times in a year for road-widening followed by laying pipe for water supply followed by laying cable for telephone followed by laying of electric cable and finally dug for drainage system.Chalta Hai India.
I don't think all people all morons.. Every type of people found in every society.. If I take one example.. Saving Environment.. Western only doing speeches at UN.. But here in India.. Every state found people who one handily grown whole forest... How many forest are in western & developed countries.. If still there forest.. How many animals found there...
In india, Maharashtra.. There is village level water conservation program happening.. Its water cup by Paani Foundation..
There is major reforms in organic farming..
You can't compare with small country.. We must only compared only with china on scale of infrastructure..still they ahead because no democracy..
Rajivji has imbibed a degree of Protestant perfectionism in being in US for a long time! Unbroken civilizational wisdom has inculcated the Chalta hai mind to the Indians! It is a philosophical conflict of linear time of the Western concept verses the cyclical time of India! No one is in a hurry and everything goes chalta! The ‘time keepers’ of the West also keep regular appointments with the therapists! The bottom line is the perception of the totality of the meaning of life! Is it time management or life management?!
BJP should now concentrate on reversing education. And not just history, but introducing vedic maths, teaching tolerance, learning scientifically advanced concepts from ancient India, and becoming self reliant. If ancient Indians could do plastic surgery why cannt we produce sophisticated machinery instead of importing from China?
We dont need Jalebi ministers. need strong ministers to support Modi.
BJP needs to first introduce population control. Then fix primary education. Then fix RND and START UP ease of business.
There is no doubt the quality of education has to be improved.
I love rajiv malhotra
Loved that "Moron Smriti" ...india needs a slap like that..lol