Can you be in love with MULTIPLE partners at once?

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  • Опубліковано 13 вер 2024
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 73

  • @HannahMitchell-Art
    @HannahMitchell-Art Рік тому +31

    Loved the Emma vs Joseph the polygamist role play at the beginning… very funny 😂

  • @pandabear8520
    @pandabear8520 Рік тому +12

    I'm in a poly relationship and I have been with my husband and wife for 10 years! (Hopefully the rest of my life😂) And we share everything. Bed, responsibilities, finances and everything married couples do. We started our relationship together and we have children together. We all love each other deeply. We don't seek other partners but I love them both and we are always promoting healthy things and we have individual therapy and couples therapy. I dont think its for everyone but for me i couldn't picture my life without them❤ love you guys!!

  • @houghtonred
    @houghtonred Рік тому +15

    This is so funny, fanny means something completely different in the UK. 😂

  • @jo-jo8845
    @jo-jo8845 10 місяців тому +3

    There is a difference between loving someone and being in love with someone.

  • @laine80
    @laine80 Рік тому +8

    As someone who was in a relationship with a narcissist for a long time (and have lots of trauma from it), I feel like it’s a combination of nature and nurture that creates a narcissist. I also believe that some small narcissistic traits are healthy. We need to have some self esteem and it helps. Great discussion, y’all!

  • @danysanerd2383
    @danysanerd2383 Рік тому +5

    1:05 Amanda "LiTtLe BaBy FaNnY?!?" 👁👄👁
    Me:😮😅😂 I'm dead now 😂😂😂😂

  • @betsybabf748
    @betsybabf748 Рік тому +10

    Loving more than one person....I would always say no, for a deep, authentic love. Loving my husband, never could even imagine loving another man. Now I am widowed. I question if in the distant future if I ever loved a living person again, I would still love my late husband as deeply as I always have, so would that be like loving multiple people? My opinion is I wouldn't love the new person as deeply because if my husband could come back, no question I would be with him over anyone else.

    • @TheAmandaRaeGrant
      @TheAmandaRaeGrant  Рік тому +7

      I love this perspective. The love you have for your husband sounds so deep and meaningful 💜 I am so glad you got to experience that. I wonder this same thing now as well.

  • @Dexy83
    @Dexy83 Рік тому +3

    Y'all are cracking me up! Amanda, you look beautiful... It must be the fun. 😊

  • @jamjar47
    @jamjar47 Рік тому +5

    My view on this is You can be in Love with your wife ....But you LOVE your dog ,or cat ! :) Its a very thin line between Love and Lust ,because they can become very mixed up feelings ! In England we don't have Polygamy but we do have what is called an 'Open Relationship' or 'Swingers' which is very popular to go to 'Swingers' Parties In my view it does tend to devalue 'Marriage' and that's what then becomes 'Lust' A narcissist will believe they are in Love but really they are in Lust ! because that's what they feed on ! A very interesting and highly knowledgeable video ! well done to you both :)

  • @laurenl720
    @laurenl720 3 дні тому

    Y’all cracked me up with the skit at the beginning. 😄 I believe there are different types of love, as other viewers/commenters said. ❤

  • @bpanhkpnkmyp1530
    @bpanhkpnkmyp1530 Рік тому +8

    Amanda, do not second-guess yourself. You’re absolutely correct. It is not 100% pure love. If you are absolutely 100% purely in love with someone, you’re not looking for love elsewhere.
    My father-in-law was in the alternative lifestyle of swinging in open relationships and non-monogamy from the 60s until the late mid 90s. He will be the first person to tell you that they will never be the purest form of love in a polygamist or polyamory or open relationships or not monogamy because of the sheer fact that there will never be 100% commitment in that relationship.
    I remember a conversation that he had with a new couple who was thinking about joining the alternative lifestyle and he would be brutally honest with them by giving them a simple story. He would say I had two identical, twin sons and I still bought a 1972 Stingray Corvette. I always wanted a Corvette, and even though I drove around with my two identical, twin sons in the front seat, which was illegal, I bought that car. I really “LIKED THAT CAR”. I would never let a friend or an associate, or a total stranger drive that car. And then bring it back to me two or three hours later.
    So how in the hell can I say that I truly loved my partner or spouse? If I am willing to let her have sex with another person for two or three hours with may be multiple people, but I would not let anybody drive my 1972 stingray Corvette and I only like that car a lot. They will never be 100% commitment in a polyamorous or open relationships. Because of the sheer fact that if you love somebody that much, you are not willing to share them. And because of that, they would never be 100% commitment which every relationship needs if you are going to have true love in the purest form.
    In the polygamist group, with these men who have multitudes of wives, there is no love. You cannot truly love somebody and then fall in love with someone else and call it true love. Because if you are truly in love, it is almost as if you were walking around with blinders, and you will not even consider having a relationship start outside of your primary marriage.
    So Amanda, do not doubt yourself, you are absolutely 100% correct. These people who are in the alternative lifestyle or polygamy or polyamory or open relationships, pretend or perpetrate, having the correct definition of love when an actuality, as my father-in-law has always said, you can justify anything, even if it is wrong, but the worst part about it is that anything in the lifestyle is just pure selfishness, and your lack of commitment to any one person because you’re not capable of loving in its purest form.

    • @nickywal
      @nickywal Рік тому +3

      What inanimate object are we comparing women to today. This just sounds downright controlling and treating partners as objects not humans.

    • @Taylor112996
      @Taylor112996 Рік тому +1

      ​@nickywal well poly people claim they're poly because one person can't possibly provide them what they need. Soo, they basically do think of people as objects to use for their own needs and desires

    • @nickywal
      @nickywal Рік тому +2

      @@Taylor112996 person writes out a full on Incel fantasy, how their partners have to be entirely theirs or they're literal used cars and the other people are the bigots ok. I'd say it's misogyny but well shouldn't assume those partners could have been men or non-binary

  • @SimplyLore
    @SimplyLore Рік тому +3

    It just hit me. Moron-I... The Moron I am. There you got it. It was all a pun. It was all a joke folks. 😬 good one Joseph

  • @evaangela1388
    @evaangela1388 Рік тому +3

    Hi Amanda and Calvin, thank you so much for the video! Amanda, in 9:43 you ask "(...) For you as a man, do you actually think you can be in love with more than one person at a time? (...)." My answer would be: Of course it is possible to love several people at the same time. Like for example in polyamorous relationships. The key point for me though is that it applies to male, female, non-binary people, as well as straight, gay, bisexual and asexual human beings.
    LOVE to all of us and to this wonderful planet! 🧡

  • @nae0067
    @nae0067 Рік тому +1

    When you like a flower you pick it when you love a flower you water it. I think you can like more than one but I don’t think you can love more than one because when you love someone you would pick them every time and would never want to do anything to hurt them.

  • @TheWinnipegredhead
    @TheWinnipegredhead Рік тому +1

    Helen Fisher and her research shed a lot of light on this topic. Lust, romantic love and attachment are unique and while you can be in romantic love with one person and attachment with another being in romantic love with two people doesn’t seem to be a thing. Love her books Why we love? And why him? Why her?

  • @tennillepatterson5500
    @tennillepatterson5500 Рік тому +1

    Love this collaboration!

  • @atlanticalilly
    @atlanticalilly 10 місяців тому +1

    I think Kody Brown is a great example of this. He eneded up in Love, and wanted monogamy with only Robyn. Thry talked about how hard it was to have to constantly hide their love around the other wives. They want to be monogamous. I personally can't imagine going that deep with anyone unless it's only us. Us and only us

  • @emilyann4549
    @emilyann4549 11 місяців тому +1

    Although I think some people can love more than 1 person at a time, I dont think its very common. I also dont think it should be legal to marry more than one person because theres too high a risk for abuse.

  • @_punkybrewster
    @_punkybrewster Рік тому +3

    Love this so much! Can’t wait for more ♥️

  • @druelia9485
    @druelia9485 Рік тому +12

    My wife and I have been polyamorous for years... Almost a decade. It's 100% possible to be in love with more than one person. I've done it. She's done it.
    We're no longer really poly though, because for one we've gotten older and having multiple partners can be E X H A U S T I N G lol. Plus she and I have been through a lot together in our lives and even those partners we've been in love with have come and went, but we're still together, stronger and more bonded than ever. So we've just kinda come to the conclusion we're just better off with each other. That doesn't mean we weren't in love with other people at the time though, or that those relationships didn't mean anything. It's just true, lasting love is super rare, and you're probably not going to find that with more than one person. And that's OK. Not all relationships need to be lifelong events.

    • @officialcalvinwayman
      @officialcalvinwayman Рік тому +2

      Love the nuance here

    • @Valiant.Unicorn
      @Valiant.Unicorn Рік тому +4

      This sounds very healthy to me❤❤❤living life to the fullest and supporting eachother through anything.

    • @emilyann4549
      @emilyann4549 11 місяців тому +2

      Just trying to be fair here. But if you have a wife, and you both had other partners at one time, but neither of you are with them anymore, how do you think those left behind partners felt after it ended? Like, how is that much different from having a favorite wife and all the other wives in a polygamist relationship?

    • @Valiant.Unicorn
      @Valiant.Unicorn 11 місяців тому +2

      @@emilyann4549 the difference is in polygamy, only the guy gets fulfilled, it's a one sided deal. He might feel he has a healthy relationship with each of them. However when he is off with 1, the others go without... that's narcissistic if you ask me.

  • @haulavuo
    @haulavuo Рік тому +1

    I'm just here...Respectfully simping on Calvin 😅

  • @thomassabia5750
    @thomassabia5750 Рік тому +2

    One is in lust not love when you have multiple partners been in those situations In my sexual past

  • @EskelsCultExpirience
    @EskelsCultExpirience Рік тому

    This was such a great podcast! I can’t wait for more!

  • @opienattyvlogs7930
    @opienattyvlogs7930 Рік тому +3

    There's a difference between loving someone and being in love I loved alot of my boyfriends but I've only been in love twice
    I think there is love in the order to an extent maybe not everyone cuz I don't think Daniel loves his 200 kids but I think alot of the moms love their kids and the siblings love each other its just they're so torn and brainwashed

  • @malin.x
    @malin.x Рік тому

    Love you and calvin! Keep more content coming with you two 😍❤️

  • @mjhepburn11
    @mjhepburn11 Рік тому +1

    A little off topic but @Amanda Rae, you *can* change your name back to Grant. It might depend on your state's rules, but I think you fill out some forms and pay a fee to have it changed.
    I never changed my last name when I married, so when I divorced, I didn't have to change it back. I remember as a little kid (probably in kindergarten) deciding that I would only change it if I could "trade up" to Mellon or Kennedy. I had a crush on a boy in my kindergarten class named John Kennedy, lol.

  • @annamurtaugh3435
    @annamurtaugh3435 Рік тому +1

    You guys have it 💯

  • @smlorrin
    @smlorrin Рік тому +1

    I'm surprised that UA-cam creators can't see their own dislike counts. I thought that it was just hidden from the rest of us.

  • @echogray3372
    @echogray3372 Рік тому +4

    I think you can love more then 1 person.

  • @laura-vv7cv
    @laura-vv7cv Рік тому +3

    You two have good chemistry.

  • @cannibalculture4499
    @cannibalculture4499 Рік тому +7

    Most successful poly relationships (from what I've heard) are entered into with all involved parties there from the start, nothing is really divided (they all live in the same home and often share the same bed, or there are partners that rotate evenly,) and they all equally share responsibilities. There is no active seeking for another partner, everyone agrees to everything from the start, and there is no "favorite". I believe, if done right, poly relationships can be successful. I personally couldn't do it, I would lose my mind if I had to share my husband at all, but I think there are probably healthy poly relationships out there that feel the same way when they think about monogamy.

    • @TheAmandaRaeGrant
      @TheAmandaRaeGrant  Рік тому +3

      This is such an interesting take. I think that makes way more sense to start off that way rather than looking to spice things up later on BUT I also have known people to be in open relationships from the beginning and it seems like it kind of works lol idk tho I am in the same boat as you like I just want one person that I can be deep with...any more would complicate things for me.

    • @nickywal
      @nickywal Рік тому +1

      Not necessarily there are relationships where people have separate partners, everyone agreeing to the boundaries etc beforehand, even some kind of set up like order families, spend a day with one family, another with the other family. But its still one relationship as such. I remember seeing one woman saying she met her now partner, that first date he called his wife and said she had to come meet her before anything could proceed. The women weren't in a relationship but they both had to agree to it

  • @lilyleonfortier7614
    @lilyleonfortier7614 8 місяців тому

    There is a tribe (I want to say somewhere in Africa, but I forget exactly) where the men have several wives. The women prefer that. One of the sons married a woman from New Zealand and now they live with the tribe. She doesn’t not like polygamy for her, but one of her mother in laws have said it’s better and she doesn’t see how the newer generation doesn’t want it. Or maybe the woman was from Germany. I can’t quite remember exactly.

  • @smlorrin
    @smlorrin Рік тому +9

    I don't believe that most people are polyamorous by nature. For those who are, I believe that they are able to be in love with multiple people at the same time.

  • @luluk2257
    @luluk2257 Рік тому +1

    So excited for this

  • @agirlnamedbrett.
    @agirlnamedbrett. 10 місяців тому +1

    the more i educate myself about all kinds of religions, cults and etc, not all of them but alot make God a creep because these leaders/prophets are creeps. i could never imagine even as someone who doesn't believe in God in certain aspects, that God would want an adult man to be screwing a child. just seems like something God would be totally against and I've never read the Bible or anything. even i know it doesn't sound very Godly.

  • @charlibrown1234
    @charlibrown1234 11 місяців тому

    My mom has had 3 of her 4 children denounce her, and it’s still not been enough to get her to change her ways.

  • @danysanerd2383
    @danysanerd2383 Рік тому +1

    13:44 just wanted to let Calvin know that the people who are overly narcissistic people only fake deep love... 😢

  • @GoldenMom815
    @GoldenMom815 Рік тому

    It’s interesting to think about. For me: no. I’ve been madly IN love with my husband for over 20 years. I LOVE our kids, pets, family…but it’s not the same.

  • @judybrustares
    @judybrustares Рік тому +1

    Hello everyone

  • @staceystitches
    @staceystitches Рік тому

    I have a question unrelated to this video. Did “The Insider” ever get out of the Order?

  • @judybrustares
    @judybrustares Рік тому +1

    From Iowa

  • @Janvier99
    @Janvier99 Рік тому

    I didn't hesitate to help those young men thinking of you 🙏🙏 actually Mobil banking system working faster than ever wanted to work it all 200 your a great day role model already so much more than 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @jamesnutt4627
    @jamesnutt4627 Рік тому

    Most of it is about sexual orientation?

  • @nickywal
    @nickywal Рік тому +4

    I do think so but functional poly relationships involve full consent and everyone able to communicate freely and get what they need. So like any healthy relationship, I don't think its possible where there's religious or patriarchal coercion

    • @TheAmandaRaeGrant
      @TheAmandaRaeGrant  Рік тому +4

      Agreed, I think the more I have discussed this topic, it sounds like it would have to take a LOT of communication and I feel like there has to be a limit to the amount of people in the relationship for it to work and not be chaos. ALSO agree it has to be consensual and no religious guilt and fear being brought in to it.
      So basically you all have to be VERY healthy human beings. Emotionaly etc

    • @nickywal
      @nickywal Рік тому +3

      @@TheAmandaRaeGrantYes and you'll sometimes see people say add someone into a failing relationship. It never works, the relationship has to be healthy in the first place. Although its probably not as damaging to as many people as having a baby and hoping it will fix everything

    • @Dexy83
      @Dexy83 Рік тому

      This perspective was my thinking, as well.

  • @robertgonzalez2015
    @robertgonzalez2015 Рік тому

    Amanda come visit me again hope you remember me we met in Santa Monica

  • @nadiafuliaurcelay4578
    @nadiafuliaurcelay4578 Рік тому

    maybe someone could, with therapy, stop acting on narcisistic traits,if they have enough traits of empathy, but a full narcisistic person i dont think so, i dont think they could taste anything stronger than the sadistic pleasure they get every single day many times a day by hurting people, the numbed areas of the brain that process empathy are not going to develope fast enough to motivate them to stop being crapy people. the truth is that no matter how much a narcisist swear to recover and go to teraphy, it's always a mistake to not run away from them. they can behave if the reward it's big enough but the moment that a biger reward apear they would not care about your well-being anymore.

  • @Janvier99
    @Janvier99 Рік тому

    I really want Mrs Rae give her section 4

  • @flutterbybird13
    @flutterbybird13 Рік тому

    🦋🦋🦋

  • @laceduptight
    @laceduptight 4 місяці тому

    I will always be in love with my late fiancé and I know I have the capacity to be in love with another person while still loving him. I'm a serial monogonist, but with my eternal love for my fiance, I 100% believe in the ability to be in love with more than one person simultaneously... in my case, it's just that one of those people is dead. Currently single, but I have loved since & hope I will again. I don't know if I believe in "the one"... if Nick was my only one, then I have a very lonely life ahead of me. Whatever man, woman, or person I meet some day, they will need to accept my love for Nick. If they can't accept that, then they are not the person for me.

  • @laceduptight
    @laceduptight 4 місяці тому

    I think widows and widowers may have a unique perspective on the ability to be in love with more than one person, as I shared a slice of my personal story in a previous comment.

  • @laceduptight
    @laceduptight 4 місяці тому

    👀 Amanda, are you str8? Asking for a friend. Just kidding, I'm asking for me 😂 either way, I think you're smart, beautiful, and open to new ideas and world views. You're amazing for who you are, how far you've come, and what you've survived.

  • @robertgonzalez2015
    @robertgonzalez2015 Рік тому

    Amanda come visit me again hope you remember me we met in Santa Monica