HRE Veteran vs Feudal Mongol. Attacked on all sides and it ended the game fast.
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Then I checked and realized that I surrendered but had the villager lead. It was just the initial burst of his army that kept him going, then I could have kept going.
I think HRE is the kind of CIV you have to beat in middle/late castle, after you got all your castle researches. Trade is mandatory as well..
PS. 1. First mistake was not placing the TC on the woodline close to the gold. That would have been an amazing TC spot.
BTW: What do you think of this video format as a standard for a normal game? - Ігри
You won this game, but you you gave up, you could have killed all his villagers, you should just have gaved him your traders to kill them, buy you time to save your villagers...while you kill his villager, the game was over, as soon as you ran home, he was in charge of the game :D
You are right, I could have cleaned up those cav units of his from my base with units I would produce. Besides, I could have bought ressources at the market if I needed to make additional defensive units, but his situation looked even worse in his base and I could have done much more damage. Even after the exchange, I had more villagers than him, not counting the traders that I could have created again after restabilizing.
18:40 those villagers under the TC were waiting to get kill3d xD
@@MangudaiKharyshkyr the only problem you went back, i never go back, you were closer to his villager, you had more units in his base, and your villager could been moved to another location, just send your traders to his base, buying you more time, but its easy to talk now :)
I'm playing HRE in solo (gold 3), and experimenting with Mongols in team games (Gold 1). Really fun to see how differently they play at a high level. Would towers in-between the river gaps have helped you be prepared for those knight/horseman raids or would he just torch them? Also Is it viable strategy to not contest relics, but just patrol outside his base for returning monks and kill them there?
Tower would have done a great deal here and at gold 3 I can only recommend building them to secure your position.
Definitely towers would have been good here, along the river, and if he would attack them, this would make it easier for me to reach him, so he'd not be able to torch them down. And towers in my base would have been great too. I think this was my mistake in this match.
Both patroling and contesting relics is a play, it's imperative you scout around the HRE cathedral and to deny relics. I like to sit on them with cav, but it's hard when you need your units to defend your tradeline. It's ideed best to split your army into smaller groups and to reinforce accordingly, but this is hard to do, because i was used to one large army.
I don't ever really move the 2nd market to the corner. This is because if you select all markets, then right click the market you want your traders to use, then Shift + right click the neutral market, all traders will use the more distant market. If my market in the corner is being raided, I just tell the traders to go to the market in my base until I hold the raid, then I tell all traders to start using the corner market again.
He was also raiding the bottom corner a lot, you could have just taken the traders and settled for a shorter trade route and told them to go to the neutral market on his side of the map. He probably wouldn't have scouted that for awhile since he was staying in his base and going for farm transition immediately. If you deny some wood, such as building a tower on the other side of the woodline out of the line of sight, that could have worked too.
However yes, it is a bit difficult to hold and chase enemy cavalry around. If you scout them going for stables, I sometimes just go for a 2nd TC instead, with a later trade transition. Then, they think there's no trade since you went 2TC.
Hope this helps!
It really sounds interesting what you are saying about the market, I'm not sure I understand entirely how this works, but the prinicple is to change to the shorter market that's in the base in case of danger, right?
In times of raids, it's even ok to get 30-40 gold per trade, which means that if you have 5 or 10 active traders, the profit is still good.
In a recent game, I made a market close to my base, it was a short 30 gold route, but when I moved it a woodline further and reached 5 active traders, it turned into 45 gold.
The switch to the opposite market is really chaotic, I think the opponent would be in a state of confusion for some time in case of such a switch, but it might have worked, indeed.
2 TC is good but I feel like investing my resources elsewhere, for some reason I kinda stay away from a 2TC and it feels very situational, but it offers a more concentraded base layout without the hassle of defending trade.
Thanks for the tips, I really appreciate all the feedback I get from you guys around here. :)
I watched it again, I should have built another market in my base and switched to the short trade, built 3 towers in my base and I would have had a big advantage here.
And about the 2nd TC, you are right vs. HRE, because if they go AGE4 Landmark you need to not fall behind in villager production.
@@MangudaiKharyshkyr I think the 2nd TC is situational depending on what civ youre up against. Of course, against China and Abbasid, they will out boom you if you're on TC so the trick is to just make a trade boom instead.
@@MangudaiKharyshkyr yes, switch to the market in base during times of raid.