Want to learn how to formulate your very own shampoo bars? Check out my shampoo bar workshop @ workshops.humblebeeandme.com/courses/shampoo-bar-workshop 😄 You'll learn how to formulate safe + stable shampoo bars without expensive gear or years of experience 🫧
YOU FORMULATED THE HAIR MASK BASE????? That is the most exciting thing I have heard this month. I am so so so happy for you! I wasn't at all interested in it prior as I have a ton of hair products on hand from my stint in the hair industry, but now? Oh, I've got my eye on it~
I really appreciate that this is a coconut oil free recipe, I'm allergic to coconut so I always have issues finding a good shampoo, soap, conditioner, lotion..etc because of the coconut oil. So THANK YOU SO MUCH!!🎉
I am in love with all of the new products you have worked on with Bramble Berry - I am a forever fan and customer for BB - and you have just taken this all to the next level. I am glad you collaborated with them. I have all of my new line products arriving today and so glad I found this video as I bought all of the ingredients for this too.
your formula is way better than lush! their original shampoo bars with SLS noodles were absolutely terrible, so drying and left my hair frizzy af. now they changed it to sodium coco-sulfate noodles which is no better. i ve literally just tried a sodium coco-sulfate bar and it s the worst shampoo bar i ve ever used. i have a question about the cocoa butter and stearic acid : does it leave the hair feeling waxy? and about the clay : is it necessary and is it drying? what can we substitute it with?
Congratulations sister really loved and happy you have partnered with brambleberry your work was great and really helpful and understanding. Thank you sister 🥰
ooooh!!! I've been experimenting with shampoo and conditioner bars for about a year and I've never seen something like this! Taking bits of an actual conditioner bar and combining it into the shampoo bar. Genius!!
Marie I have been following you for as long as you started. I love how far you have came . I enjoy how adventurous and creative you are. How can I have a one on one training with you?
Bonjour madame, j'ai hâte de pouvoir acheter tout les produits et d'essayer votre recette de shampooing en barre. C'est trop génial et meilleur pour notre amie la terre. Un grand merci à vous. Bien à vous. Rosalie
Hi Marie, I just made these with the SCI powder, I took the powder down a couple of grams then thought I would just spray water in until it was maleable, I wound up panicking and chucking water in as it took a lot! In true form I dont know how much water😅 buuut, they worked out! They are set out to dry now.x
I have just ordered SCI powder as well as there seems to be a shift in demand from needles/flakes to powder in my local market. Will run a trial towards of next week. If I may how much water did you end up putting in the formula? How did the bars turnout - great results?
Hi Kevin, I am a new formulator and I am making panicky errors. I wish I knew how much I put in but fair to say the formula was very forgiving and the bars dried beautifully and they are still together with use. This is really great Shampoo.
OMGOSH!!! Congratulations on the formulation! You just slipped it in at the end but imo that’s a big deal❤ I am very excited about this recipe, thank you so much Marie ☮️💟☮️💟☮️💟
This looks like a great base! Could you recommend some additives to add? DL Panthenol, cetrimonium chloride, silk or oat extract and or quaternium 7 maybe??
Everything I've researched about my hair type says to stay clear away from cocoa butter (and shea butter too for that matter) because its too heavy and weights down my curls. I'd love a conditioning shampoo bar, or a straight up conditioning bar that is more light weight
Research is great, but do you know from experience that less than 4% cocoa butter in a wash-out product is problematic for your hair vs. hair like yours, generally? I've got pretty easily weighed-down waves, but this formulation doesn't cause any issues for me :)
I love this! I've been watching all of your videos. Quick question, you used curl complex and said we could customize it accordingly, but I have super fine, thin, straight hair what do you recommend in its place of the curl complex? I know you mentioned hydrolyzed protein or botanical extract but whats best for fine, straight hair? I am so over whelmed with all the things out there. Thanks in advance for your help and all of your wonderful videos!
I'd probably choose hydrolyzed rice protein! It contains proteins with both cationic (positive) and anionic (negative) charges. This opposing charges help add volume to hair by repelling one another. www.humblebeeandme.com/project/hydrolyzed-rice-protein/
Can I replace 5g Curl Complex liquid with 5g liquid Panthenol Pro vit B5? Basically because this is what I have. Another question: I have Optiphen ND. Is it the same or can I use it in place of Optiphen Plus?
For the curl complex, you could use a liquid hydrolyzed protein or botanical extract instead. You can use a different oil that your hair loves instead of marula oil; argan oil, coconut oil, and jojoba oil would all be great choices!
Interesting video. Very well explained and put across. The only thing I'm struggling with is... surely all these ingredients are going to cost way more than 6 lush bars? If that isn't the case, some pricing in the video wouldn't have gone amiss.
Yes, the initial investment will definitely be more than $15. This is true for cooking, too, and generally most DIY things. If you don't have any of the ingredients and had to buy everything brand new, that'll run you about $150USD from Bramble Berry (though you could easily make some swaps to lower that number quite a lot, like dropping the fragrance and using a cheaper oil than marula oil-if you already had coconut oil, for example, that work work and would save $30 as the smallest bottle BB sells is 4oz). Once you've got everything you can make 10 LUSH-sized shampoo bars for about $26 USD worth of ingredients vs. $150 USD to buy 10 bars from LUSH, and you'd have lots of leftover ingredients. If you're looking for a simpler formulation with a lower up-front ingredient investment, check out this one: ua-cam.com/video/daB0DJv23bE/v-deo.html Happy making!
Where did you get the little flip caps for the Optiphen that allow you to control the drops? Mine came with just a regular top that unscrewed so the bottle was just open and the top for the 16oz bottle so you could control the flow better? Thanks. I can't wait to try this project!
Same here, I only have SCI powder. I think the key will be balancing clay-sci-liquidy stuff ratio.... I think a bit of experimentation and tweaking and we're good to go.
Generally you can, but @ayalightfire4030 is right-you'll need to re-balance the liquid/solid ratio to get things right. SCI powder has far more surface are than SCI needles do, so it will absorb a lot more liquid, resulting in a drier final dough that requires more water to be workable. I'd probably start by reducing the SCI by 1-2% and increasing the water by the same amount :) And start small; 30g (1.06oz) or so.
Hello Marie, I made this recipe, without the curl enhancer (I don’t have any) I used rosemary infused olive oil instead. My hair looks dull, was it because I used the rosemary oil? Or maybe I did something wrong?
Hello and thanks for this. I made my first batch today. It wasn't as dry as the video shows. I added a trace of SLSa and it got slightly better. Are there, by chance, different grades of SLSa? What I have doesn't seem quite as fine as my SCI powder (which I do not use).
This is still really drying to my hair. I used argan for the oil and bamboo extract. Any suggestions? It’s almost like I need 3x the amount in conditioning but I still need it to clean hair.
UGG. I made two batches that turned out perfectly - PH and all - until I realized I used cyclomethicone instead of CAPB. Any chance it is usable???? BTW, the next two batches were awesome. Just saying. Thanks
Do you have a recipe that would be similar to lush super milk hair primer? I love the product but the vanilla scent sometimes clashes if I’m wearing certain perfumes
Instead of hand-chopping the conditioner bits, is it safe to use a processor with a blade attachment, or is it too soft? I know some things can turn into mush.
Question: what if you added (and mixed) the surfactants right into the melted oil base, which means you do not need to mess about with the distilled water and the clay? Sure the paste it'd produce would look less Lush-like, but I personally do not care for clay residue in my hair.
I actually did that because I am lazy and did some other formula mixing wax/oil/surfactant together. It turned out great (to my liking)(though still keep the order/melting phase in mind) and it's the best I've made!
great video marie! I was thinking of adding either btms25 or 50 into my shampoo bars and making it into a 2 in 1 bar. can i ask you why you had to cool the mixture in the fridge and then chop it up? Can't you just put the mixture into the dry phase with the other wet phase too???
I'm emulating a famous Lush bar; this is what they do for that one. I've done the mash-it-all together thing in the past and it works (ua-cam.com/video/t4GrU-k1Zc0/v-deo.html), but I find the bars do tend to be stickier to work with a softer towards the end of their life, so I've moved away from doing it that way.
Yes; Liquid Germall™ Plus (INCI: Propylene Glycol, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate) would work well, but at 0.5% overall (replace the missing 1% w/ more Cocamidopropyl Betaine).
I'm confused about the preservative. Why are you preserving twice. I never heard of this. Why can't you preserve once for the bar? I mean in other formulas you don't preserve twice.
I am effectively preserving it once; I've simply divided the preservative between two different phases proportionately as they will not fully intermix in the final product. If only the dough portion included preservative there would be little nuggets of unpreserved conditioner bar throughout. The overall preservative concentration is still in line with recommended use. This is definitely a 'better safe than sorry' approach; extended testing might show it is unnecessary.
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Hi Marie ! There must be a problem with your free course link, there is no way to subscribe or to click on any link 😬 PS : You're the best 😘
How is this cheaper than buying a shampoo bar once every month or two when all these ingredients probably cost 70 to 90 dollars to get even if you make say 5 per batch it's still round about rhe same price
The initial investment will definitely be more than $15 (the current cost of one Lush shampoo bar). This is true for cooking, too, and generally most DIY things. If you don't have any of the ingredients and had to buy everything brand new, that'll run you about $150USD from Bramble Berry (though you could easily make some swaps to lower that number quite a lot, like dropping the fragrance and using a cheaper oil than marula oil-if you already had coconut oil, for example, that work work and would save $30 as the smallest bottle BB sells is 4oz). Once you've got everything you can make 10 LUSH-sized shampoo bars for about $26 USD worth of ingredients vs. $150 USD to buy 10 bars from LUSH, and you'd have lots of leftover ingredients. If you're looking for a simpler formulation with a lower up-front ingredient investment, check out this one: ua-cam.com/video/daB0DJv23bE/v-deo.html Happy making!
Want to learn how to formulate your very own shampoo bars? Check out my shampoo bar workshop @ workshops.humblebeeandme.com/courses/shampoo-bar-workshop 😄 You'll learn how to formulate safe + stable shampoo bars without expensive gear or years of experience 🫧
I think I got mold on mine and I used exact recipe
Fantastic...but I would like to know if the Curl Complex is the rice one? AC Rice Curl Complex PF? is the same? thanks for the excellent video
YOU FORMULATED THE HAIR MASK BASE????? That is the most exciting thing I have heard this month. I am so so so happy for you! I wasn't at all interested in it prior as I have a ton of hair products on hand from my stint in the hair industry, but now? Oh, I've got my eye on it~
I really appreciate that this is a coconut oil free recipe, I'm allergic to coconut so I always have issues finding a good shampoo, soap, conditioner, lotion..etc because of the coconut oil. So THANK YOU SO MUCH!!🎉
SCI is made from coconuts
Just make sure you are aware that SCS, SCI, and SLSA are coconut/palm derived. I wouldn’t want you to have a reaction doll!!!
I am in love with all of the new products you have worked on with Bramble Berry - I am a forever fan and customer for BB - and you have just taken this all to the next level. I am glad you collaborated with them. I have all of my new line products arriving today and so glad I found this video as I bought all of the ingredients for this too.
❤️ Thank you so much! ❤️
your formula is way better than lush! their original shampoo bars with SLS noodles were absolutely terrible, so drying and left my hair frizzy af. now they changed it to sodium coco-sulfate noodles which is no better. i ve literally just tried a sodium coco-sulfate bar and it s the worst shampoo bar i ve ever used. i have a question about the cocoa butter and stearic acid : does it leave the hair feeling waxy? and about the clay : is it necessary and is it drying? what can we substitute it with?
Great formulation! Thank you for sharing. I’m definitely going to give this recipe a try.
Congratulations sister really loved and happy you have partnered with brambleberry your work was great and really helpful and understanding. Thank you sister 🥰
Thank you so much 🙂
Congrats, Marie with your formulation for brambleberry! Well done!
Thank you so much! ❤️
ooooh!!! I've been experimenting with shampoo and conditioner bars for about a year and I've never seen something like this! Taking bits of an actual conditioner bar and combining it into the shampoo bar. Genius!!
Hope you like it! ❤️
Marie I have been following you for as long as you started. I love how far you have came . I enjoy how adventurous and creative you are. How can I have a one on one training with you?
Soooo entertaining! Know that a lot of ppl will be selling these, you’re changing their lives :) ❤
Bonjour madame, j'ai hâte de pouvoir acheter tout les produits et d'essayer votre recette de shampooing en barre. C'est trop génial et meilleur pour notre amie la terre. Un grand merci à vous. Bien à vous. Rosalie
Hi Marie, I just made these with the SCI powder, I took the powder down a couple of grams then thought I would just spray water in until it was maleable, I wound up panicking and chucking water in as it took a lot! In true form I dont know how much water😅 buuut, they worked out! They are set out to dry now.x
I have just ordered SCI powder as well as there seems to be a shift in demand from needles/flakes to powder in my local market. Will run a trial towards of next week. If I may how much water did you end up putting in the formula? How did the bars turnout - great results?
Hi Kevin, I am a new formulator and I am making panicky errors. I wish I knew how much I put in but fair to say the formula was very forgiving and the bars dried beautifully and they are still together with use. This is really great Shampoo.
OMGOSH!!! Congratulations on the formulation! You just slipped it in at the end but imo that’s a big deal❤ I am very excited about this recipe, thank you so much Marie ☮️💟☮️💟☮️💟
Thank you so much! It was such an honour to work with Bramble Berry and so dang fun to boot 😄
This looks like a great base! Could you recommend some additives to add? DL Panthenol, cetrimonium chloride, silk or oat extract and or quaternium 7 maybe??
LOVE LOVE LOVE Brambleberry!! ❤️ So glad I found this!
They're so great! ❤️
Everything I've researched about my hair type says to stay clear away from cocoa butter (and shea butter too for that matter) because its too heavy and weights down my curls. I'd love a conditioning shampoo bar, or a straight up conditioning bar that is more light weight
Research is great, but do you know from experience that less than 4% cocoa butter in a wash-out product is problematic for your hair vs. hair like yours, generally? I've got pretty easily weighed-down waves, but this formulation doesn't cause any issues for me :)
Can you show us how to make a ph changing lip gloss?
How can I make it liquid shampoo? Just melt? Thanks in advance for the information.
Why do some melt the SCI and SLSA before mixing?
I love this! I've been watching all of your videos. Quick question, you used curl complex and said we could customize it accordingly, but I have super fine, thin, straight hair what do you recommend in its place of the curl complex? I know you mentioned hydrolyzed protein or botanical extract but whats best for fine, straight hair? I am so over whelmed with all the things out there. Thanks in advance for your help and all of your wonderful videos!
I'd probably choose hydrolyzed rice protein! It contains proteins with both cationic (positive) and anionic (negative) charges. This opposing charges help add volume to hair by repelling one another.
www.humblebeeandme.com/project/hydrolyzed-rice-protein/
Can I replace 5g Curl Complex liquid with 5g liquid Panthenol Pro vit B5? Basically because this is what I have. Another question: I have Optiphen ND. Is it the same or can I use it in place of Optiphen Plus?
Hi Marie, it sounds like a lovely bar.But I was looking for a substitute for curl enhancer and marlie oil. Any suggestions. Xx
For the curl complex, you could use a liquid hydrolyzed protein or botanical extract instead.
You can use a different oil that your hair loves instead of marula oil; argan oil, coconut oil, and jojoba oil would all be great choices!
Made mine today using ballet pink mad mica, it came out beautifully a bit sticky because my SCI noodles has been crushed using a blender
Hi Marie, thanks for sharing your knowledge, I have all ingredients except stearic acid, what can I use instead?
Interesting video. Very well explained and put across. The only thing I'm struggling with is... surely all these ingredients are going to cost way more than 6 lush bars? If that isn't the case, some pricing in the video wouldn't have gone amiss.
Yes, the initial investment will definitely be more than $15. This is true for cooking, too, and generally most DIY things.
If you don't have any of the ingredients and had to buy everything brand new, that'll run you about $150USD from Bramble Berry (though you could easily make some swaps to lower that number quite a lot, like dropping the fragrance and using a cheaper oil than marula oil-if you already had coconut oil, for example, that work work and would save $30 as the smallest bottle BB sells is 4oz). Once you've got everything you can make 10 LUSH-sized shampoo bars for about $26 USD worth of ingredients vs. $150 USD to buy 10 bars from LUSH, and you'd have lots of leftover ingredients.
If you're looking for a simpler formulation with a lower up-front ingredient investment, check out this one: ua-cam.com/video/daB0DJv23bE/v-deo.html
Happy making!
@@HumblebeeAndMe ah okay, cool. Thanks for taking the time to put together a detailed reply :)
Where did you get the little flip caps for the Optiphen that allow you to control the drops? Mine came with just a regular top that unscrewed so the bottle was just open and the top for the 16oz bottle so you could control the flow better? Thanks. I can't wait to try this project!
Love this! Is it possible to substitute SCI noodles for SCI powder?
Yes, please! I only have SCI powder. Can I use one of your other formulations with SCI powder and add the conditioner?
Same here, I only have SCI powder. I think the key will be balancing clay-sci-liquidy stuff ratio.... I think a bit of experimentation and tweaking and we're good to go.
@@ericablue2296I don't see why not. That's a great idea :) I will try that.
Generally you can, but @ayalightfire4030 is right-you'll need to re-balance the liquid/solid ratio to get things right. SCI powder has far more surface are than SCI needles do, so it will absorb a lot more liquid, resulting in a drier final dough that requires more water to be workable. I'd probably start by reducing the SCI by 1-2% and increasing the water by the same amount :) And start small; 30g (1.06oz) or so.
Thank you Marie!!! I loved it, incredible ❤🙏🙌👸
Hello Marie, I made this recipe, without the curl enhancer (I don’t have any) I used rosemary infused olive oil instead. My hair looks dull, was it because I used the rosemary oil? Or maybe I did something wrong?
Hello and thanks for this. I made my first batch today. It wasn't as dry as the video shows. I added a trace of SLSa and it got slightly better. Are there, by chance, different grades of SLSa? What I have doesn't seem quite as fine as my SCI powder (which I do not use).
This is still really drying to my hair. I used argan for the oil and bamboo extract. Any suggestions? It’s almost like I need 3x the amount in conditioning but I still need it to clean hair.
UGG. I made two batches that turned out perfectly - PH and all - until I realized I used cyclomethicone instead of CAPB. Any chance it is usable???? BTW, the next two batches were awesome. Just saying. Thanks
If we don't care about the shampoo bars having a lather can we take off the 1st two ingredients in the part 2 formula?
Do you have a recipe that would be similar to lush super milk hair primer? I love the product but the vanilla scent sometimes clashes if I’m wearing certain perfumes
Instead of hand-chopping the conditioner bits, is it safe to use a processor with a blade attachment, or is it too soft? I know some things can turn into mush.
Question: what if you added (and mixed) the surfactants right into the melted oil base, which means you do not need to mess about with the distilled water and the clay?
Sure the paste it'd produce would look less Lush-like, but I personally do not care for clay residue in my hair.
I actually did that because I am lazy and did some other formula mixing wax/oil/surfactant together. It turned out great (to my liking)(though still keep the order/melting phase in mind) and it's the best I've made!
great video marie! I was thinking of adding either btms25 or 50 into my shampoo bars and making it into a 2 in 1 bar. can i ask you why you had to cool the mixture in the fridge and then chop it up? Can't you just put the mixture into the dry phase with the other wet phase too???
I'm emulating a famous Lush bar; this is what they do for that one. I've done the mash-it-all together thing in the past and it works (ua-cam.com/video/t4GrU-k1Zc0/v-deo.html), but I find the bars do tend to be stickier to work with a softer towards the end of their life, so I've moved away from doing it that way.
@@HumblebeeAndMe Thanks for your reply! Strange actually that the end product is different.
In phase 3, when subbing for the curl complex, would you use a glycerine or alcohol botanical extract?
Did you ever get an answer to that? Thanks
Can I replace BTMS 50 with 25?
we can make in a similar way lush conditioner bar?
Hi! Can I ask you were did you buy your shampoobar press?
www.bathbombpress.com/en/ :)
On m’y to do list
Thanks for sharing 🎉
Hi can you please talk about sorbitol. Is it a good substitution for glycerin???
Is there a way to modify this recipe to include goat milk?
How is possible that u mix btms (cationic surfactant) whit sci (anionic surfactant)?
Can I replace optiphen plus by another preservative
Yes; Liquid Germall™ Plus (INCI: Propylene Glycol, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate) would work well, but at 0.5% overall (replace the missing 1% w/ more Cocamidopropyl Betaine).
Hello! You mentioned that the bars are a fraction of the cost of a lush bar--do you know approximately how much it costs per bar?
I worked this out in a reply to @Josh-pm9xf here in this comments section-check that out for a breakdown :)
Thank you! @@HumblebeeAndMe
What is the shelf life of this bar?
Can you do more formulas on butter pearls. Maybe lip products. ❤️🇨🇦
Mam can I use liquid germal plus ?
Safe for kids to use?
Good question. Wonder if this is specific to "Adult" curly hair? Adult Normal hair? Or an all around shampoo Bar for family 🤔
cant find SCI ,, any other option ?
you make me feel grounded, bringing back me back what i love the most..love XOXO
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I'm confused about the preservative. Why are you preserving twice. I never heard of this. Why can't you preserve once for the bar? I mean in other formulas you don't preserve twice.
I am effectively preserving it once; I've simply divided the preservative between two different phases proportionately as they will not fully intermix in the final product. If only the dough portion included preservative there would be little nuggets of unpreserved conditioner bar throughout. The overall preservative concentration is still in line with recommended use. This is definitely a 'better safe than sorry' approach; extended testing might show it is unnecessary.
Hi Marie ! There must be a problem with your free course link, there is no way to subscribe or to click on any link 😬
PS : You're the best 😘
You might not be seeing it if you've got an ad blocker running; try disabling it if that's the case :)
No sé qué hace Lush pero son extraordinarios ❤
Can you substitute refined butter with unrefined?
Definitely!
Are those ingredients considered natural
The mold from yellow bee 🐝
What will happen if I don’t add a preservative
It could grow mould in your shower.
Can SCI noodles be replaced by SCI powder?
Please refer to my reply to @ashley3492 :)
Can anyone tell me the name of the tool Marie used to melt the oil phase please 😅
www.humblebeeandme.com/project/hot-plate/ :)
Please, what scale do you use? ❤
www.humblebeeandme.com/project/precision-scale/ :)
Dos anyone else get a flkay scalp from this? I love this bar.
My flaky scalp went away, I just needed a dandruff shampoo for a bit, so not related to the bar. Yay.
What is the total weight for all and for each bar
I make a 500g batch in this video, which should make about six 80g shampoo bars.
Hi... can I use sci in powder form?
Check out my reply to @ashley3492 :)
Happy early birthday in case I forget tomorrow! Hope you have an AMAZING day!
Thank you so much! ❤️
Could I do this with powdered SCI?
Yes, but you'll have to adjust the wet/dry ratios as powdered SCI has far more surface area than the needles do :)
How is this cheaper than buying a shampoo bar once every month or two when all these ingredients probably cost 70 to 90 dollars to get even if you make say 5 per batch it's still round about rhe same price
The initial investment will definitely be more than $15 (the current cost of one Lush shampoo bar). This is true for cooking, too, and generally most DIY things.
If you don't have any of the ingredients and had to buy everything brand new, that'll run you about $150USD from Bramble Berry (though you could easily make some swaps to lower that number quite a lot, like dropping the fragrance and using a cheaper oil than marula oil-if you already had coconut oil, for example, that work work and would save $30 as the smallest bottle BB sells is 4oz). Once you've got everything you can make 10 LUSH-sized shampoo bars for about $26 USD worth of ingredients vs. $150 USD to buy 10 bars from LUSH, and you'd have lots of leftover ingredients.
If you're looking for a simpler formulation with a lower up-front ingredient investment, check out this one: ua-cam.com/video/daB0DJv23bE/v-deo.html
Happy making!
I would like to know where you get your mask 😷
Lee Valley! It's linked the free Humblebee & Me DIY Encyclopedia (www.humblebeeandme.com/diy-encyclopedia/) entry on dust masks :)
Yay❤
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