Annie Jacobsen on Nuclear War - a Second by Second Timeline
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- Опубліковано 17 тра 2024
- Annie Jacobsen joins the podcast to lay out a second by second timeline for how nuclear war could happen. We also discuss time pressure, submarines, interceptor missiles, cyberattacks, and concentration of power. You can find more on Annie's work at anniejacobsen.com
Timestamps:
00:00 A scenario of nuclear war
06:56 Who would launch an attack?
13:50 Detecting nuclear attacks
19:37 The first critical seconds
29:42 Decisions under time pressure
34:27 Lessons from insiders
44:18 Submarines
51:06 How did we end up like this?
59:40 Interceptor missiles
1:11:25 Nuclear weapons and cyberattacks
1:17:35 Concentration of power - Наука та технологія
Does anyone else find her voice very relaxing? I mean she's talking about the end of the world and I'm still like... ☺️
Yes, I know what you mean
You'll change your tone very quickly when war comes to your neighbourhood
Agree.. Intellectually turn on
Just the opposite for me. I can’t mesh the serious historian with the constant Valley Girl “right?”that is tossed onto the end of way too many sentences.
Yes, she needs to do an ASMR video.
Annie Jacobsen: She is the ultimate Horror/ASMR/Bedtime Story Narrator.
Nothing this horrible ever sounded so good.
She should make a relaxation audio for playing when the bombs drop. Just some herbal tea and her voice. Ahhh, so peaceful (blinding flash).
She’s calmly and lovingly explaining to a cherished young person how they’re going to be incinerated with love
😂😂😂😂
Our liberal friends would call it World Love Three, It; 's like Orwell's 1984 is holey scripture today
I listen to this when im stressed. Crazy relaxing voice.
I haven't read a book in 30 years, I read this 400-page book in 4 days. Incredible information as bleak and terrifying as it is, a must read to understand how close we are to destruction.
It is already predicted.
It will take place by 2035 at latest.
So, think wisely what you will do these 15 years
Finished reading it last week, is fascinating and frightening
She has an amazing voice
How wonderful to listen to a well-spoken, articulate, knowledgeable person on possibly the most important subject of our time. I can’t listen to people drunk with emotions, which is most people in mainstream media and to a lesser extent, UA-cam and the like, and people in general. I applaud sober people who speak clearly and intelligently and who don’t spew their emotional energy all over the listener. High praise to Annie and my deepest thanks to her for sharing the facts of such a deeply serious matter in such a calm and reasonable way. Thanks Annie for making palatable, what is unthinkable. I plan to get the audio of this woman’s remarkable book.
I agree 100% She'll even put the mozzies here in Africa to sleep! What a soothing voice this lady has. Just imagine her counting down the doomsday missiles. I'll be fast asleep before the first one hits... (What has humanity come to?)
@@willemjohannessmit9636 lol😅
Just started to listen to this and she talks about satellites being used for that video call which is likely not the case and machine learning being used to calculate missile trajectories which probably isn't the case now either and definitely wasn't the case before.
She needs a netflix show
Great but terrifying book. Absolutely terrifying
I’m reading her book now. It’s absolutely eye opening and mind blowing. We are so under prepared for nuclear war.
How would you prepare for nuclear war?
@@cyberfunk3793You don't/can't
By moving as close to a likely fireball zone as possible so it's just lights out before you know anything is different.
@@chaddie69 which was obviously my point.
You are wrong.
We would get up now to obligate all countries to destroy all Nuclear Weapons.
But we are unconscious bipedal mammals lost in our imaginary world
Even in Canada, the US owns a lab in many upper air stations with air scrubbers that detect radioactive isotopes. These filters are changed regularly and the difference in time between detection between locations allows triangulation of where the isosopes came from. In this way, nuclear incidents or tests above ground cannot be hidden. The Americans can find the location of any such event anywhere on the planet.
I got the audio book...and, as former USAF Intelligence, I was amazed at the authenticity, the detail, and the horror. It is definitely worth reading or listening to.
Just read paperback, you are spot on
Bought her book on audible and on amazon to try to support her for doing such great, detailed work. Looking forward to reading it (but at the same time not, lol)
I'm buying this book.
I just got done with the audiobook. It’s astonishing, frightening and well worth it. Buy this book and share it!
Way out of date
@@Exanto777 : In what respect?
@@eschdaddy Let’s face it, an aggressor nuclear power will look to benefit themselves and not explode radioactive dust around the world. This woman’s assumptions are way out of date. It’s very likely that an aggressor would detonate nuclear bombs 300 miles above another country to destroy its computers and electrical apparatus. After that a more conventional invasion to destroy the population by means of forces including humans and robots.
@@Exanto777: Seriously, what are you referring to. Not rhetorical, just wondering your perspective.
@@eschdaddy what this woman refers to was about right for the 1950s. However, those nuclear armed countries don’t want to cause a radioactive dust cloud to envelope the earth. If they attack, they would explode the bombs about 250 miles above the target country.
That would destroy all the step up transformers and put the electrical grid out of business, plus it would destroy all unprotected computers and similar devices in cars etc.
The result in the target country would be a disorganised population which would be easy to destroy with more conventional forces containing humans, drones, robots, and land machines. The target country would not be contaminated or badly damaged but entirely cleared of humans. It would not be the end of the world either, though horrific for those in the gun sights.
In order to minimise response time for the target country to respond, such ‘clean’ attack would be more feasible from short distance submarine or from space; not from land based silo or bomber.
The biggest risk to the world is from the USA which seems to have no plan for any of this and would explode nuclear bombs on an enemy inside the earth atmosphere.
Awesome podcast. Just ordered her book. 👌🏻
If we were going to strike N. Korea, wouldn’t we use submarines? Just curious because Annie describes a scenario where we would “go over pole” and Russia using ICBM’s.
Yes, we would use the Ohio class subs. In conjunction with icbm. The book goes into great detail about the usage.
Yes. The over the pole thing is just stupid with NK.
Her goal as an author is to tie in all the actions in a Nuke War often she uses specific examples to do this so it's not exactly Realistic but the specific actions are. Lastly, she ignores Presidential Directive PD-60 which states we are not in Launch on Warning Mode currently but must absorb a strike before we can retaliate. Check it out for yourself PD-60! ! !
It would be B-2 spirits and B-21 Raiders dropping bombs. Submarines would only be a first strike option if we knew there would not be a retaliation. Subs are meant to be an automatic retaliation. The moment you launch they can be seen, so it would be highly advantageous to use a stealth bomber so they wouldn't even know it was happening until the bomb bay doors opened.
I grew up in the Soviet Union and we had a nuclear underground concrete shelter next to every school and drill what to do in case of nuclear attack. I don't see any nuclear shelters in major cities in the US, and that nuclear shelters should be constructed and ready asap!
Too late. USA has grown fat and lazy.
why ,,,, you have no chance at all, if your in a shelter near to a bomb, your buried alive anyway.
They are pointless. Sure you might survive the initial blast, but then you'll be dead in the coming weeks due to radiation fallout, starvation, disease, etc. All of society will collapse. There will be no supplies coming in. You simply cannot survive a nuclear war in the long run unless you are some elite mountain man living off the grid in the middle of the woods in a remote country and that's like super rare. 99.9999999999% of the world doesn't have the skills.
There were shelters back in the day but they were only in the big cities for the most part. Some where along the way our government came to the conclusion that you can't protect people with shelters due to the size of the bombs both sides were deploying.
Your shelter would be vaporised. Have you not listened to what happens with modern nukes? Anyone in a city is dead.....☹️
Sounds like an interesting book. I'll check it out. She's certainly hyping it up; many many interviews on UA-cam.
Never read such a stressing book!
For such an expert there are a few holes in her information. The US has Attack Subs following every single Russian Sub. Not that the Russian sub-fleet ventures out much anymore. Also, we would not use ICBMs on North Korea. We would use SLBMs (Submarine Launched Ballistic Missiles) and/or nuclear-capable cruise missiles.
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True. Russian Subs are outdated except the new Borej A class. They could and would easily being detected and followed by modern attack subs. So they won´t be able to launch their missiles because they will be destroyed before that. The 2 new Borejs might be harder to track. But perhaps they are a hoax like the Armata Tank and other "gamechanger" Russia only has on paper.
Icbms are in a fixed location and the location of these nukes are well known. We could lose their capabilities if there was an attack. They also are the quicker option to use as they are out in a minute. It would make sense to use the visible option. Also these sites are considered sponges, they will be attacked because of their visibility.
Smart Author, she wrote a book on people's fears during a time when everyone is afraid.
I love Nukes, it's going to suck if you ever hear the "Tang" sound that they create as metal explodes, but just for a fraction of a second.
Seriously, don't worry about the Nukes, the day will come when they will be used, all weapons made eventually get used. Instead think about what you are going to do in the event you are lucky or unlucky enough to live?
Have hypersonic missiles changed the timing?
No because icbm's go up then come down and only have to travel about 300 miles or so to hit their target
" My only friend the End " Jim Morrison/The Doors 1967 ⏰️
Glad she is talking about the fallacy of the current U.S interceptor system. I can't believe how many people believe the interceptors are a credible defense in their current guise.
Correct. Deploying a system that would intercept even 80% of nuclear missiles would cost 2 or 3 Trillion dollars. But if we deployed such a system, an adversary could just massively increase decoys to counter. Since decoys cost a tiny fraction of what interceptors cost, you can't ever win this race.
That's true, its better to surrender to Putins Russia even he wants Alaska back, just obey him to prevent a nuclear war 😂😂😂😂😂😂
GBI system definitely not great. However, the sea based SM-3 Block IIA program is very encouraging.
@@danielkennedy2371 Still only good for only a rogue launch or too. Strategically, the interceptor concept totally fails in an actual nuclear war because interceptors cost hundreds of times as much as extra decoys. Intractable problem.
@@skenzyme81SPOILER: In the book, it's a rogue ICBM that the interceptors fail to shoot down. And it's the rogue detonation that causes the general nuclear exchange between the superpowers. The book NEEDS a failure to intercept a rogue nuke to set up the general nuclear exchange scenario.
50% miss rate by interceptors? Maybe - it's a tough gig. However these interceptor missiles exist to guard against one or two launches from rogue states - generally seen as a more likely threat. No one in their right mind would think that 44 interceptors can deal with a massive Russian or Chinese attack - why is this even brought up as a serious issue?
Exactly. It was BS propaganda when Putin said he needed to develop hypersonic glide vehicles to counter US ABM tech. He knows our interceptor program is intended for NK and Iran.
Wow excellent discussion. I wasn't aware that we don't have a separate doctrine for a rogue state nuclear missile attack. I would have thought the response would have been a massive air and sea attack with Conventional weapons. This assumes only one or two missiles were fired at the U.S. homeland. If the president does not have that discretion under laws passed to do such a thing...that is horrible. 80 ICBM missile as a response is nuts.
Love her voice, so pleasant and relaxing!
It’s going to happen the only question is when. Humans will never learn not to destroy themselves. If someone has something that you desire and can’t get the response is to take it by force by many people. The reason countries have military’s is not about defending themselves it’s about imposing their countries will on others that think differently.
' yeah ! , so there !!! "
Hi, in your opinion what is the likelihood of a nuclear war? And which country is most likely to use nuclear, given the most recent developments in IRAN-ISRAEL?
Pakistan.100%.
I guess she has to sell her book. I remember in the 80's this was a daily topic (unfortunately it' coming back). We've known since 1954 (Castle Bravo) about the effects. Happy sales AJ!
She needs to include y'all facts about what the positive are of nuclear weapons and treatments for exposure like ARS or ARP to truly understand and try and affect change. Listen to Ryan MacBeth.
Sarah Connor speaking - great interview.
What's missing here is that AGEIS. SM6 and SM3 are a shield and there are lots of them. On top of that you're missing the energy based systems.
She reminds me of the character, Professor Groeteschele from the film Fail Safe.
BTW what are the odds that years ago, the Chicoms and Russians haven't slipped nukes into the country via lead lined shipping containers, and they're just parked around the country in major cities and near military bases? Port and customs officials can't be bought off to look the other way?
Her book ( and the inevitable movie) are important because of the conversations that will result. It’s important to realize how implausible her sequence of events is. NK launches a single ICBM at DC, and the US responds in minutes with scores of minuteman missiles that must overfly Russian airspace. This initiates a massive Russian strike, and a subsequent massive US response. It is implausible to the point of absurdity that our military hasn’t simulated many scenarios that avoid this escalation chain. What about our response coming from air-launched cruise missiles or SLBMs? There will certainly always be a US boomer submarine in the western Pacific. One could even imagine a scenario in which the US responds with a massive conventional attack
What about all the sea creatures that have been proven useful for secret missions?
This chick could lull me to sleep with tales of the apocalypse.
China also has mobile launch platforms for missiles such as the hypersonic DF-41 even.
Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth -luke 21
She sounds exactly like The Boss from MGS 3: Snake Eater which makes this so much more credible
I thought the same thing. Been years since I've played that game lmao.
Prepare for the end, so scary
You can't prepare. Just accept it could happen and enjoy every day before that if it does.
She mentions The Day After. British film Threads is much more terrifying. I saw the ABC movie the nite it was telecast, Threads a few years later at a small boutique theater. Threads was, IMO, much more realistic.
You can find Threads online.
Threads was, in some sense, more realistic because the post nuclear narrative doesn't go beyond 20 or so kilometers. Everything becomes local. Decent into chaos even more local.
I watched threads also. It was scary.
@@geoffpool7476 agreed if you’re unlucky enough to survive the attack you’ll wish you didn’t
Totally agree. I remember being terrified by Threads when I watched it as a teenager. So well done. Seems like less people watched because not many have mentioned it.
Thank you for interviewing her. I bought her book and I pray the people that have the power to end us all, read it, learn, and work to remove these horrible weapons from arsenals.
They will never remove those weapons 😂
They are all frightened as hell
They are like as if going around with their trousers round their ankles
Why do a handful of people get to decide our death? Today a few people brought us all closer to death. I do not give psychopaths' power over my life.
It's always been that way.
Because with 5 minutes warning {INF Europe days}....you don't have time to get/collate/organize the opinions of 300M people. 25 minutes for ICBMs? I SUPPOSE we could organize a FAST plebiscite at 2:02AM on any random Sunday.
But do you have any say in this. We are all in the same boat
@@nilakshandissanayake1379 I do as long as I say I do. You do, too.
We don’t have a choice
Young people are sent to war against unknown young people by older men who know each other
Annie Jacobsen has that throaty, husky, relaxed voice that makes the most horrendous end of the World scenario seem so matter-of-fact and peaceful....🏴😎🇮🇱
Annie Jacobsen sounds like the Hollywood Rona Barrett of Thermonuclear War.
Isn’t this timing problem part of Putins argument for not having NATO in Ukraine?
"The only way to win is not to play" is a good quote from a movie, but apparently we have some rogue actors out there saying "if can't get what I want, then we all die." Trying to squirm out of MAD for "reasons". As if they are holding the globe hostage. In that case, we die free.
wonder if annie has seen the bbc film war book?
Love Annie's books in general and this one in particular. However, she has two major blind spots in her narrative. First is regarding missile defense. Yes, the Alaska and California sites have limited numbers of interceptors (mostly due to treaty obligations). But I find it odd that she doesn't even mention the Navy's newfound ability to hit ICBMs with the new SM-3 Block IIA. It seems she could at least mention this capability rather than presenting only the evidence against missile defense. Similar with the nuclear winter thing. Yes, there are plenty of studies that say it will be bad. There are also plenty of studies that say it will be quite mild. On both of these issues, she presents a consensus that just isn't there. Great book otherwise! Don't read it at night though
As an old nuclear guy way back when, she's trying to sell a book; good for her. But too many mistakes, too many oversights. It's why as a widebody Captain nearing retirement---I cannot read any news aviation articles any more. Utter bullshit spewed by people to impress people that know even less [if that's possible!].
Pressing a button normally.
What frightens me is that I might not be at ground zero. I want to be vaporized and I am scared that I won't be.
When you think about what kind of people sitting in the position to push the button around the world,it’s outright scary..!
This is my type of party girl.
That's what my grandpa taught me when I was a child
It would be 33 minutes that number!
I thought our limited but technically capable ABM systems, like THAAD, were built to deal with the rogue launch. The successes of the Patriot missile and Iron Dome indicate a refined American capability to solve the challenges of interception, although not with 100% assurance of success.
Ballistic missile submarines do have to be concerned about the ASW capabilities of their opponent. The P-8 aircraft, US Navy and Coast Guard surface vessels, SOSUS type systems, and attack submarines are threats to ballistic missile submarines. If a ship with SM-6 missiles is within a close range, interception of the missile in boost phase is possible. More likely the launch coordinates can be established and missiles directed to that location. A ballistic missile submarine would have to make a choice about a curtailed salvo or fire missiles until it is destroyed. The closer the sub is to the adversary's shore, the more likely the sub is hit before it can launch all its missiles.
Humm....at 1:14 Annie is describing a star-siting missile guidance system for sub-launched ICBM/IRBMs. I'm calling BS on this one. I worked in a land-based ICBM system that - once-upon-a-time - had a star-siting guidance system, but it was replaced in the 70s with a fully inertial guidance system. I'm not a Navy guy but I feel strongly that their ICBM/IRBMs are *not* using 60+ year-old guidance technology. Just the technical aspects of using a star-siting system would be outrageously difficult for an ocean-launched missile.
I saw a tour video on one these missile silos they showed the steps and old technology they take to lunch minute man missiles. They use large floppy disk not the 3 whatever inch or the 5 what ever inches. They use larger ones i don't remember how much bigger but bigger than the 5 inch ones got two persons at the old computer from the 60s or something they have two nobs they have to turn at unicen then the missiles will start do the sequence to launch. That was interesting how its done then and still today it called a fail safe i believe why they still use that old technology.
I’m a fan of hers and have three of her books- my favorite is Operation Paperclip. One loving critique is Annie has a tendency to find outdated research and write on it as if it’s recent and still relevant. This was the case in Surprise, Kill, Vanish. So I’m hesitant to buy more titles that have stale content- Overall, lots of respect for Annie! She’s talented, passionate, intelligent and weaves a very strong story. She consulted/produced on the Amazon series, Jack Ryan etc . Fascinating lady Ava’s happy to see her successes
How come Nuclear Winter didn't happen from all the Nuke tests?
One of the tests isn't enough for the smoke and fallout to cover the earth to dim the sun to cause a nuclear winter the test is only every few months apart maybe year apart . It would take multiple times like in hundreds or thousands of nuclear missiles at one time to cause a nuclear winter.
@@rachelannkrueger7638 There were thousands of these tests in the 50's and 60's.
Because this book uses the concept of 100's / thousands being used in unison all over the world on the same day Hydrogen bombs which are many many times bigger than those dropped on Hiroshima / Nagasaki, not one being used in a barren area once every few years
The bombs were set off over thr ocean, with no contact on land. Nuclear winter is created when LAND is blown up.into the sky, which then filters sunlight
Not if when
What is the chance we cat nucleaire war
This lady is a breath of fresh air. With honesty. The clock is ticking with Putin and the support he's having from the republican party in the USA
It's not Putin that will launch on us.
We will launch on them.
It will be made to look like they launched on us.
Or that is the plan anyways.
Launch on warning is the mistake that will kill many of us.
Nuclear winter is a myth.
All that soot will be like cloud seeding and tons of precipitation will occur .
They have already trained the population for nuclear war- stay at home ( lockdowns)
- mask up ( don't breath in the pollution, fall out ,ash )
-stockpile supplies ( toilet paper )😅
-the wildfires of last year and this coming season was a test of the environment; to see how nuclear winter would behave ( so far so good )
we can handle it I think.
The elite's know about this, that's why they are building bunkers right.
Stockpile
-enough food for at least 3 weeks absolute bare minimum.
-have some quality dust masks and gloves on hand.
-a water filter, pre-filters and a way to boil it.
- soap , water
-coveralls
- garden tools, a good quality shovel to bury the dead
- get some seeds of all types that will grow in your area and maybe some that will grow in slightly cooler weather and reduced grow time areas because climate will be wonky for a little bit.
-tarps will be a good idea , many tarpaulins
- duct tape
It will be easy to over come and start over.
Just stop and think about it realistically and stop listening to all the end of the world lazy people that don't want to put the effort into survival.
What support is that?
A.J. is smiling on the link as she presents nuclear destruction.
She can see into the future with those thick glasses
It was Madame de Pompadour, lover of Louis XV of France, said "After me the flood" in French of cause.
"The day after" was a Disney tale about nuclear war.
More accurate and realistic was, with no doubt, the british serie "Threats".
Few people inside the U. S. know it.
What is the point of briefing the president if he is senile?
Luckily senile Trump is now out of office and hopefully will stay that way, so your question is hypothetical.
@@mdavidmullins the stupidity of your comment has been heard and understood by the world wide web. There is no doubt in anyone's mind, how senile Biden is, especially when compared to Trump. Yes, we get it. You have Trump derangement syndrome, but you seriously lie to yourself to this magnitude? I'm impressed. I'm not American and it seems like I know more about your presidents than you do. Kind of sad in that regard.
@@mdavidmullinsKeep fooling yourself. It's a good way to embrace stupidity ideology.
@libertyinperil520No borders ? That's the way you invite yourself into dangerous situations. Stop hiding behind YT and your living room. Take a vacation to Douglas AZ, the California border near TJ, or south Texas. You'll see an inordinate about of middle eastern and Chinese young men entering almost unfettered. Then read the ENTIRE "Rules for Radicals" and the tennents of Sharia Law. If you aren't concerned, you're ignoring the obvious.
Well to be honest, it's why we voted DJT out
⭐Stock up on precious metals (brass, copper, lead) while you can, from Winchester, Remington, etc.⭐
If the world ends water food ammo fuel will be only thing worth bartering
Tell Annie Thank You. What the "Ostrich-People" don't admit is that even today, after all the Strategic Arms Reductions of the 'Nuclear Club', Global Thermonuclear War would be a Near-Extinction Level Event (E.L.E.) for Terran-Humanity. Also, I had it explained to me in the late 1970s that The U.S. shifted from a Second-Strike (Launch after Initial Attack) to Launch on Warning due to Soviet ICBMs becoming more accurate (Sub-500yds C.E.P.) & the Soviet Plan for a Time-On-Target (T.O.T.) Attack Scenario (Preemptive or otherwise). If you wait for your Enemies' Inbound Attack to begin hitting Target to physically verify a Nuclear Attack & your Attacker achieves a T.O.T of 05min. Or Less, you won't be able to Respond.
GOD Help us All.
Now then: Opinions are like Assholes, and I guess I just showed mine. Also, I agree that Launch On Warning is a Grevious Mistake & a Dangerous, Misleading Policy. I pray for the Men & Women of the Armed Forces for the burden of executing a Nuclear Attack Response. GOD Bless, Love and Protect the Peoples of Earth. Good Night.
I listened to this book on audible. I thought she had AI read her book....nope just strange AI voice. Great Book...was hard to listen to her voice for hours.
HAPPENS. When we talk all the time of what leaders want
She should do an instructional nuke disaster painting, kind of like Bob Ross, but with a not too happy ending.
Look up.
Wow what a voice
Imagine if she hosted a late night radio show playing chill out blues or country ?
👍
She's got a hot voice ❤
The satellites detect infrared emissions, heat, and the amount of energy being emitted, ICBMs will emit distinct heat signatures from size of missile nozzle. The trajectory needs to be calculated but the missile needs to start to pitch over from vertical to begin the calculations with direction being determined quickly but distance will need to wait until near booster shutdown. Any detection false or not will take a minute of observation to assess before determining the threat of that detection. A single launch would not look like a first strike, it would take many simultaneous launches with ICBM heat signatures to start the defense process immediately while working on trajectory calculations to confirm an attack on US. The sub launch ballistic missile is hindered by the increased noise a larger nuclear powered sub makes and the very robust sonar net the US coasts have plus attack subs patrolling makes approaching the coast is difficult but not impossible. In times of increased tensions extra patrols will be assigned and the sonar net will be very attentive in real time, complacency is a main factor in letting foreign subs approach undetected until sonar records are reviewed catching the sub after the fact.
you cant intercept a mach 27 projectile
Sprint had no problem, and did it in the 60s.
There's a fine book about the US Interceptor squadron up in Alaska.
But if they fire a E M P From a shipping container Off of a ship.
In our own port Alll Bets are off
I hope I'm wrong but I think that nuclear war is inevitable at this point
wow ! smart and beautiful !!!!! we must stopp the madness ! " uhh, don't ask mee' how !"
"Realistically inform" through terror. The last 3 times we've been at high DEFCON's, we prevailed through cool minds and extreme luck. The world could've ended in the early 80's, over a computer mistake. Now youre embracing AI.
Right, right, right, right, right, right, right
Right?
Um, does she mention hypersonic missiles launched from a sub? Those have made it a whole new ball game. Sorry, I had to quit 1/3 of the way through, she was lulling me to sleep.
Things to think about.......container based nukes, hypersonic nukes, dirty bomb nukes smuggled in from the " open border"
Or satelite nukes already in orbit...just waiting. That would be truly destructive because of the EMP . I don't think that an ICBM will be the first use choice
I would guess EMP would be the enemies first choice, no outright killing of millions. Implosion vs explosion. The country would implode in mere weeks, maybe just days. And I don't think that the country would respond in an escalatory manner, it might be near impossible to find out who delivered it. Just my opinion.
Now you owe me even more money
Why do UA-cam want people to see this over your other videos? Strange they have pushed this at me multiple times and I’ve never viewed your channel before
The closest we came to nuclear war was during the Cuban Missile Crisis when an insane US navy captain attacked a Soviet submarine by dropping depth charges on it. That was an act of war and the Soviet sub commander and political officer, between them, were authorized to launch a nuclear torpedo if attacked by the US navy. The commander wanted to launch the nuke at a US carrier and the political officer disagreed so the carrier didn't get nuked. Also, the Soviet commander in Cuba was cleared to use Frog tactical nuclear missiles to defend Cuba against a US invasion. If JFK had given the order to start WW III by invading Cuba, it would have gone nuclear in the first hour. That is worth considering with all the neocon lunatics advocating a NATO attack on Russia. The lesson of the Cuban Missile is that there may not even be a conventional phase to WW III. It could go nuclear immediately.
The other close call was when the US was doing a nuclear exercise called Able Archer, in 1983, that the Soviets took for the real thing so they had their nuclear forces on high alert. Then the Russians had a glitch with their early warning system that gave them a false warning of a US ICBM launch. There was a Soviet officer with orders to launch on warning but he disobeyed orders and waited for conformation. He lost his job but he saved the world. The lesson of that close call is that it is dangerous to cause the other side to put their nuclear forces on high alert.
The US destroyer dropped charges designed to tell the sub it knew where it was and it should surface. They were not depth charges designed to sink the sub. Please check your facts.
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The dude who directed BR 2049 bought the rights to make a film about this book
Last night I dreamed of an angel wearing the same black glasses.
Seems the immediate implication of this is the craziness of the ICBM system - that part of the triad should be eliminated because of how it encourages a use it or lose it scenario which directly leads to the 6 minute scenario which is pure insanity -
if we could eliminate the ICBM systems, if the two main adversaries knew that their entire nuclear force were submarine based it would seem that would eliminate a first strike scenario - each side would know that the adversary would have full retaliatory capability intact - then the main issue at that point would be to design a system that could withstand an EMP scenario that might blind one side in a first strike- it seems a submarine based rather than air based or bunker based command center where a nation’s leader would be first taken by helicopter and some fail safe system to such a command center with instructions in case the leader of a nation does not make it of a system whereby someone is appointed by the president in charge of such a submarine based command center what do worked out in advance meticulous rules made to in case of a confirmed first strike - how to respond to make sure that deterrence remains a part of the MAD system - and not the “dead hand” scenario you mentioned in other discussions
It seems we are living in a really crazy time right now so in need of this awareness before another Cuban missile crisis emerges as appears to be unfolding right now on the borders of Europe and our former adversary from the first Cold War which in those days although there was ideological battles they were not personalized - a respect was always maintained between leaders allowing for communication and compromise. There is such a craziness right now and a media that discourages thoughtfulness.
Thank you so much for doing this - just hoping you can get the word out to as many platforms as possible. I love your passion and intelligence and eloquence and how you were able to get the cold warriors you interviewed to get their eloquent words to us and their worried as fears for the present.
Logically everything you said makes sense. But nukes = power. The nuclear powers will never trust each other enough to lay down their icbms
I’ve listen to serval podcast with her on this last week.
She definitely has that ASMR voice..
Maybe someone should send this to Iran?
You guys are never going to get it until it's too late , join the club
Anyone who wants to know what this will mean for ordinary people should watch _The Day After_ (for free on UA-cam: ua-cam.com/video/TOPaaHSjMcw/v-deo.html ) This 1983 movie by Nicholas Meyer is a realistic drama about what a nuclear conflict would do to Lawrence, Kansas, seen through the stories of several families. It is the most watched TV movie in history; 100 million viewers watched its first run. It was shown on Russian TV in 1987.