Result is on Dyche. Players were absolutely knackered - in the crowd we could all see it. Very worrying that he couldn't. Iraola made 5 subs and they won the game with fresh legs.
Bollocks, the "edginess" started when Bournmouth made 5 subs and with the whole ground watching the Everton midfield, with no energy left, struggling. What does Dyche do? He takes off two attackers and replaces them with two attackers who are worse players. You know the rest, the midfield crumbled.
Lindstrom on loan....Dyche doesn't trust him. O'Brien brought in......Dyche Doesn't trust him. Mangala to come in....will Dyche trust him. Why'd he take off N'Diaye? I'm sick of hearing him talk about Premiership experience. We need Brainthwaite Back desperately! Dyche's teams are pathetic in August! Look at his record. We've been the better team for most of our first two home games.
I don't agree with all points made in this podcast but as usual The Athletic have got most of it right. Agree with Paddy. He's a good voice for us Evertonians. Keep the the good work lads.
Calm heads prevail, we were cruising 2-0 up, should've been 4 or 5, and then 5 minutes of madness happened. Iron that out and we'll be fine. Why does everyone have to turn into drama queens because of one bizarre game?
Exactly everyone saying Everton are already gone when there’s 36 games left and they are 1 point from safety 😂 can easily turn it around and in a much better position than they were last year, with a far better squad.
Totally agree! I was at the game and we absolutely battered them for 87 minutes. Had a whole raft of injuries at the start of the season. New players need time tol bed in. But the media love the "Everton in crisis" narrative...we'll be fine.
We - Leeds had the same trouble last season with Farke either not subbing or subbing way to late for them to do any good, we are hoping he doesn't do the same this season.
That might have been due to Farke's lack of trust in his bench. People wanted him to play Creswell, but look how poor he's been for Toulouse. Our squad depth is much greater this season, so lets hope he uses that bench more.
Mykolenko was exhausted and the 3 goals came from that position. The 2nd and 3rd goals, he was slow getting back to position. Dyche is a dinosaur with his tactics. The rest of the league has evolved with managers who are better tactically
Everton have debts of 200M to RMF, 200M to 777, 200M to Friedkin, plus 450M in shareholder soft loan from BlueSkyMoshiri. That's almost 1.1 billion quid in capital invested. Even if Moshiri writes off all of his investment, no way is the club worth the 600M in debt that would have to be paid back on a change of control AND that's before the working capital needed to continue the business as a going concern for the rest of the season. Unless the debt holders all agree to take a haircut on their capital which is unlikely given the debt is likely secured over the new stadium and/or Goodison, then there is close to NO chance that anyone will be willing to put up a bid for such a distressed, debt-burdened asset that cannot operate as a going concern without a new owners commitment to cover operating losses, which are limited by PSR. Looking very ugly for Everton regardless of how they do in the league this season.
You clearly have no clue what you're talking about. Friedkin paid MSP but now we owe Friedkin 200m. 777 we owe 200m but it may not be required as 777 are under investigation for being dodgy as fuck.
@@TomDobo1992 777 are not "under investigation for being dodgy", whatever that means. They are undergoing insolvency proceedings and the debt is now under the control of A-Cap. If 777 are liquidated then that £200m is then owed to A-Cap instead at an interest rate of 10.25%. The loan does not just vanish into thin air
If Everton lose Dyche they’re done for, if they get relegated they’re likely going to end up like Portsmouth. This team might survive relegation but they wouldn’t have a chance in getting back up like Leicester or Southampton. Also, respect Dyche. He got Burnley into European football finishing 7th playing how he did
They’ve lost the first three the last three years it doesn’t matter. The three promoted are going down again. Wolves Forrest are worse than Everton too
30:00 As soon as I heard that comment about borrowing money to buy a club, my heart sank. Everton, learn from the Hicks and Gillett saga at your neighbours, Liverpool. Your club is already hampered by debt. I’m surprised prospective owners still think they can get away with this nonsense.
On the next podcast about Everton, please explain how a new stadium with over a half a billion in loans against it is going to transform Evertons financials? Point out how much additional revenue the stadium will produce matchdays v Goodison. Then deduct how much additional costs to run Bramley Moore v Goodison per match. Then how much will be used to pay down the interest and loans against the stadium. I'm not seeing where Everton will be getting massive amounts of money in their coffers to spend on the playing staff.
As a neutral looking from the outside in, Everton employed Mr Dyche to get the club away from the relegation battle experienced in recent years. He (Sean) had a good record for managing the same feat at Burnley. Bouremouth had a manager prior to Iraola taking charge who was doing the job but was never going to take them far from the relegation zone. The fans who support Everton should be given a questionnaire as to their thoughts on manager(s) at the seaons end so the owners dont loose touch with the paying fan base . It may be a shame that so much club revenue is gleaned from sponsorship which has inadvertently diluted the opinions of fans.
@@peterelphick7045 he's not working in easy circumstances though. He also did a lot more than fight relegation with Burnley. He established them in the premier league after bringing them up twice and even took them into Europe. Last year, without the points deduction, Everton would have finished 12th, which isn't bad considering their squad and transfer options. If owners gave fans the ability to choose a new manager at the end of every season, there would be changes at every club that finished 5th or lower. Plus, Everton can't afford to sack anybody.
the stats are correct you don’t change a team that’s winning by 2 goals , Dyche is wrong because he’s mis interpreting the stats he’s relying on. The majority of teams 2-0 up don’t lose because this number includes the top team’s performances, but this is where other stats can show you live in a game if a player is slower over a set distance and calculate if he needs to be changed based on his own teams data on expended energy for that player.
The lack of Leicester punishment is a complete joke tbh just shows what we said all along ...it was a witch hunt and premier league punish the teams its chooses to
@@Nathansss365 Everton didn’t cheat, USM pulled out of their stadium sponsorship deal which put them marginally in the red. You clearly don’t know the case.
@@Nathansss365Leicester cheated but couldn’t be charged because it was a month after the financial period ending and were not in the prem. Essentially get relegated and you get away with it
We dont have a deep squad and injuries could be a real problem for us this year but our first 11 is easily good enough to stay up, probably around 15th.
Bill Kenwright ruined us, Moshiri has spent over half a billion, and brought in Ancelotti and got the ball rolling on the new stadium. It's not all his fault. Koeman set us back years as well.
We have a lot of debt but dno if ppl realise every club does dnt think it’s da biggest issue in the world only is right now cos mohrishi won’t invest money in da club at all from what I gather ahyway
Chill out. Yeah, the Bournemouth game was shit but we effectively finished mid-table last season and we had a great defensive record. Our best CB is currently missing and this team is defo better than last.
So, you people just want to forget, worse, ignore, Sean Dyche's CLUELESSNESS in the subs HE made to GIVE Bournmouth the hope, then impetus, they simply did not have until HE decided to give us all HIS version of a 'masterclass' (lolololololololol) of seeing out an already pretty much won game?.. Yes, it was the players themselves who were out on the pitch, when we were doing maybe not so much, then winning, then drawing, then LOSING.. But, HE'S the one making those calls on EXACTLY WHO those players, the RIGHT players,should be AT ANY GIVEN TIME.. & HE FAILED IN THAT JOB AS BADLY AS IT WAS POSSIBLE ON THE DAY!!!...
Everton will be happy for 17th nothing else matters the new stadium is waiting.Nobody is coming in to buy the club not in the financial mess it’s in anyway
Everton sell out home and away, They're batshit nuts about their club. They mocked Moyes because he spoke to Man utd behind Kenwrights back and pretty much accepted the job without telling BK first, Moyes left on a sour note but gave everything he could for Everton.
Well from what everyone said, Everton dominated that.last match, and it was simply amateur to throw that away. Surely it's still something to build on.
2-0 up and absolutely FLYING. So what does Dyche do? He removes, Ndaiye - our best player on the day - and puts on his useless 30+ mate Dope-Coure.....and our system collapses, confidence goes, panic sets in, defence becomes exposed and we concede 3. CRAP GAME MANAGEMENT from a dinosaur manager who benches new talent and lives in the dark age of "dont lose" football. Dixon, Garner, O'Brien, Lindstrõem, Armstrong all BENCHED. Patterson out in the cold since SlapGate. WTF is going on? Seamus is clapped out, Young should be in a retirement home, Gueye doesnt know what day it is and Dope-Coure - the biggest nobody of all - couldnt hit King Kong's arse with a satellite dish. Disgraceful, schoolboy, game management from a crap manager. This is ALL on Dyche. DYCHE OUT DYCHE OUT DYCHE OUT
There was one area where the entire panel completely lost touch with reality here... They spoke about circling the drain in ever decreasing circles and if how one can only do this for so long before succumbing to relegation. They spoke about relegation battle after relegation battle. Nope! Let's have it right, Everton finished fairly comfortably outside of that last season even with the horrifically handled points deductions by the EPL. If one was to consider the record on the pitch alone, the games won and drawn etc, Everton less the points deduction would have been mid-table. So the narrative on this matter at this juncture of the show was just entirely false/wrong. Now Everton may end up in a relegation battle this season, sure, and there start has been awful, but there start last season was identically bad, yet they still less deductions were never anywhere near relegation. So I think objectively, factually, the narrative painted on this matter was simply wrong/false/nonsense. Everton have huge issues and they do have to dig themselves out of a hole, but it has only been 3 games, and 2 out of those 3 games they might have been expected to lose. Let's not over egg the pudding for clicks guys! Drama really is better on television! Next time, let's have a bit more balance and a bit more responsibility re the discussion.
@@TC8787-yq7ogAlways hate those kind of stupid (at best), moreover seemingly just 'snide', type of 'you deserve to go down' type comments!.. 'We', Everton, have been in the top tier of English football longer than any other team except Arsenal.. yet we - somehow - still 'deserve' to get relegated bcos we've had some - very - admittedly shitty seasons?.. mostly of late, btw.. (Pleeeeease take note, eejits.. 👀.. WE STILL HAVE NOT got ourselves relegated in ANY of those dodgy seasons = WE SIMPLY HAVE NOT DESERVED TO!!.. geddit yet?)... 🤷♂️
Just stop the over dramatics, its 3 bloody games and i saw enough evidence in the 87 mins of what this sides capable of and thats without Jarrad, Mangala and Garner. The squad is stronger then the one that finished 23/24 and that squad got 48 points. Will be fine and let Dyche guide us to safety ready for the brand new stadium and the last of the players ripping us off go on bosmans in 9 months time.
But for the points deduction, Everton would have finished on 48 points last season (same as Brighton). Miles clear of relegation. Has the squad got better - not particularly. But they'll get away with it - again - because there will always be 3 or 4 teams worse than them (see newly promoted 3 and Forest). Circling the drain is right - I see parallels with where Villa went after Martin O'Neill left. If Everton were going to go down they should have done already when they were cheating PSR rules - now the gulf is so much between the Prem and the EFL - they will keep getting away with it.
I’d say that there aren’t 3 worse teams though. Leicester & Ipswich have enough about them to compete in the lower half. None of those team have shipped 10 goals, have zero points and Dyche as manager. Ipswich played Citeh & Liverpool, Leicester Spurs & Villa so far btw and both have points on the board.
Its a bit like Sunderland for me, several seasons of poor decisions and bad financial planning while hanging on through a bunch of relegation battles. Long rebuilding period needed after relegation.
I respect Dyche he has done a decent job in very difficult circumstances. But if there is the opportunity for David Moyes to come back i'm voting for Moyes all day long. As a 39 year old Evertonian our most "successful years" were under him. West Ham fans didn't appreciate him but we do. Bring him back.
Sack Dyche. Sack Thelwell. And bring back David Moyes. Then get the club sold to someone who gives a shit. Moyes had a net spend of £17m in 11 years. All while finishing top 8 for 8 of those years and making a cup final. What happens on the pitch reflects what is happening off the pitch. Moyes managed to cover both almost singlehandedly for over a decade. The Bournemouth loss was entirely Dyche's fault and he threw his players under the bus (well worded from 9:07). Pathetic. He's a pound shop Big Sam. And he'll follow the same path throughout his career and will never manage a club bigger than Everton. Despite the fact he treats us like Burnley. Thank God he's out of contract at the end of the season...
They were gonna bring back Moyes but they did a fan consultation that made them think it'd go down too badly. Everton fans are their own worst enemy. The treatment of Benitez was embarrassing, small club syndrome.
@@rascassesaintouen8576 Having Player Costs that equated to £124 of every £100 of income at one point for one. Over £450m in loans. This is exactly the kind of degenerate gambling that took down Leeds at the turn of the millenium and by all rights, Everton should suffer the same fate.
I always disliked Everton ever since playing the early CM/FM games at the turn of the century they would always be OP (over powered) under Moyes and be though to beat but still rolling over the AI rivals. My dislike turned to disgust when I cam across the Jamaican Dancehall producer that calls himself Everton Blender (sounds like Bender). So whenever I would lose or struggle to break down Everton in the Manager games that Everton Blender screaming and shouting would echo over me like a pestering curse. Ever since then I have cursed them and waited for relegation its been a long 20 years but maybe the time will finally come where the club can be reduced to history books like Plymouth Argyle, Sheffield Wednesday and other clubs with bad sounding names.
Result is on Dyche. Players were absolutely knackered - in the crowd we could all see it. Very worrying that he couldn't. Iraola made 5 subs and they won the game with fresh legs.
Bollocks, the "edginess" started when Bournmouth made 5 subs and with the whole ground watching the Everton midfield, with no energy left, struggling. What does Dyche do? He takes off two attackers and replaces them with two attackers who are worse players. You know the rest, the midfield crumbled.
Lindstrom on loan....Dyche doesn't trust him.
O'Brien brought in......Dyche Doesn't trust him.
Mangala to come in....will Dyche trust him.
Why'd he take off N'Diaye?
I'm sick of hearing him talk about Premiership experience.
We need Brainthwaite Back desperately!
Dyche's teams are pathetic in August! Look at his record.
We've been the better team for most of our first two home games.
I don't agree with all points made in this podcast but as usual The Athletic have got most of it right. Agree with Paddy. He's a good voice for us Evertonians. Keep the the good work lads.
Really enjoying Phil’s introduction to the podcasts this season, think he talks a lot of sense 🙌🏻
We miss Phil at Leeds, although Nancy is doing a cracking job 😊
Wow what amazing insight from Matt Slater. Great stuff.
The thinking man of football.
The manager tried to get something out of Keane kast year and it was only fans making a stink and losing 4 nil to Villa before he changed it
Calm heads prevail, we were cruising 2-0 up, should've been 4 or 5, and then 5 minutes of madness happened. Iron that out and we'll be fine. Why does everyone have to turn into drama queens because of one bizarre game?
Exactly everyone saying Everton are already gone when there’s 36 games left and they are 1 point from safety 😂 can easily turn it around and in a much better position than they were last year, with a far better squad.
@@james505ism35 I believe
Agreed. I think the new additions make us a better prospect than last year when we were quite comfortable without points deductions.
Totally agree! I was at the game and we absolutely battered them for 87 minutes. Had a whole raft of injuries at the start of the season. New players need time tol bed in. But the media love the "Everton in crisis" narrative...we'll be fine.
Because you used to be near4th.
Now you are consistently dregs.
We - Leeds had the same trouble last season with Farke either not subbing or subbing way to late for them to do any good, we are hoping he doesn't do the same this season.
That might have been due to Farke's lack of trust in his bench. People wanted him to play Creswell, but look how poor he's been for Toulouse. Our squad depth is much greater this season, so lets hope he uses that bench more.
Mykolenko was exhausted and the 3 goals came from that position. The 2nd and 3rd goals, he was slow getting back to position. Dyche is a dinosaur with his tactics. The rest of the league has evolved with managers who are better tactically
Everton have debts of 200M to RMF, 200M to 777, 200M to Friedkin, plus 450M in shareholder soft loan from BlueSkyMoshiri. That's almost 1.1 billion quid in capital invested. Even if Moshiri writes off all of his investment, no way is the club worth the 600M in debt that would have to be paid back on a change of control AND that's before the working capital needed to continue the business as a going concern for the rest of the season. Unless the debt holders all agree to take a haircut on their capital which is unlikely given the debt is likely secured over the new stadium and/or Goodison, then there is close to NO chance that anyone will be willing to put up a bid for such a distressed, debt-burdened asset that cannot operate as a going concern without a new owners commitment to cover operating losses, which are limited by PSR. Looking very ugly for Everton regardless of how they do in the league this season.
MSP have been paid the debt not over billion it’s £650 million absolute bellend
You clearly have no clue what you're talking about. Friedkin paid MSP but now we owe Friedkin 200m. 777 we owe 200m but it may not be required as 777 are under investigation for being dodgy as fuck.
@@TomDobo1992 777 are not "under investigation for being dodgy", whatever that means. They are undergoing insolvency proceedings and the debt is now under the control of A-Cap. If 777 are liquidated then that £200m is then owed to A-Cap instead at an interest rate of 10.25%. The loan does not just vanish into thin air
Kopite bollocks
What’s the point of writing such sentences when the content is BS? Did you research any of these points? Or is your brain a bit dead?
May Sol rest in peace & his memory be a blessing.
RIP Sol Bamba......a true legend and gentlemen, a nutter on the pitch occasionally, but he was always himself. My heart does go out to his familly.
If Everton lose Dyche they’re done for, if they get relegated they’re likely going to end up like Portsmouth.
This team might survive relegation but they wouldn’t have a chance in getting back up like Leicester or Southampton.
Also, respect Dyche. He got Burnley into European football finishing 7th playing how he did
Absolute rubbish! Who is to say a positive manager gets more from the players. Dyche gets found out.. especially this day and age. Talking nonsense!
They’ve lost the first three the last three years it doesn’t matter. The three promoted are going down again. Wolves Forrest are worse than Everton too
Nonsense, moyes would
Step in and it would be fine. He’s only been here
A few years and we we were fine before him and we will be fine after him.
I'd prefer relegation so Moshiri loses a shit load more money!
Everton will be about 13th 😴
30:00 As soon as I heard that comment about borrowing money to buy a club, my heart sank. Everton, learn from the Hicks and Gillett saga at your neighbours, Liverpool. Your club is already hampered by debt. I’m surprised prospective owners still think they can get away with this nonsense.
On the next podcast about Everton, please explain how a new stadium with over a half a billion in loans against it is going to transform Evertons financials? Point out how much additional revenue the stadium will produce matchdays v Goodison. Then deduct how much additional costs to run Bramley Moore v Goodison per match. Then how much will be used to pay down the interest and loans against the stadium. I'm not seeing where Everton will be getting massive amounts of money in their coffers to spend on the playing staff.
As a neutral looking from the outside in, Everton employed Mr Dyche to get the club away from the relegation battle experienced in recent years. He (Sean) had a good record for managing the same feat at Burnley.
Bouremouth had a manager prior to Iraola taking charge who was doing the job but was never going to take them far from the relegation zone.
The fans who support Everton should be given a questionnaire as to their thoughts on manager(s) at the seaons end so the owners dont loose touch with the paying fan base . It may be a shame that so much club revenue is gleaned from sponsorship which has inadvertently diluted the opinions of fans.
@@peterelphick7045 he's not working in easy circumstances though. He also did a lot more than fight relegation with Burnley. He established them in the premier league after bringing them up twice and even took them into Europe. Last year, without the points deduction, Everton would have finished 12th, which isn't bad considering their squad and transfer options.
If owners gave fans the ability to choose a new manager at the end of every season, there would be changes at every club that finished 5th or lower. Plus, Everton can't afford to sack anybody.
the stats are correct you don’t change a team that’s winning by 2 goals , Dyche is wrong because he’s mis interpreting the stats he’s relying on. The majority of teams 2-0 up don’t lose because this number includes the top team’s performances, but this is where other stats can show you live in a game if a player is slower over a set distance and calculate if he needs to be changed based on his own teams data on expended energy for that player.
Perfectly summed up most people feelings about the situation
Great podcast fellas
The lack of Leicester punishment is a complete joke tbh just shows what we said all along ...it was a witch hunt and premier league punish the teams its chooses to
No, Leicester just have clever accountants, not like the uneducated simpletons running your books.
@@MasterControl-MCP so cheating is okay as long as accountants can cover it up?
Honestly , you lot always play the victim . Leicester got relegated whilst Everton cheated , take your medicine.
@@Nathansss365 Everton didn’t cheat, USM pulled out of their stadium sponsorship deal which put them marginally in the red. You clearly don’t know the case.
@@Nathansss365Leicester cheated but couldn’t be charged because it was a month after the financial period ending and were not in the prem. Essentially get relegated and you get away with it
We dont have a deep squad and injuries could be a real problem for us this year but our first 11 is easily good enough to stay up, probably around 15th.
Seems like the club is fleeting with bankruptcy if they go down
Ped (of ToffeeTVs) segment of Sky Sports News recently was very good regarding this situation.
They flirted with the trap door for too long for it to not eventually punish them.
Give sean time. He'll get you through it
Moshiri makes the glazers look good. What the hell has he done to that club?
Bill Kenwright ruined us, Moshiri has spent over half a billion, and brought in Ancelotti and got the ball rolling on the new stadium. It's not all his fault. Koeman set us back years as well.
Pickford
@@thebubblydreamz what about him?
Give it Giggsy till the end of season
The Championship beckons... better to go down, bring whole bunch of young players through then come back up.....
We have a lot of debt but dno if ppl realise every club does dnt think it’s da biggest issue in the world only is right now cos mohrishi won’t invest money in da club at all from what I gather ahyway
46:30 RIP, Sol ❤
Everton are a great old club, they'll survive and be back stronger. Will take time though
New takeover, spend in January, concede less when Branthwaite returns, cheer up toffees can't sulk after 3 games
Poor Ayo looking for positives... For what its worth they'll be fine. 3 games in isn't time to panic
Chill out. Yeah, the Bournemouth game was shit but we effectively finished mid-table last season and we had a great defensive record. Our best CB is currently missing and this team is defo better than last.
Why should o brien have to wait for a start he's good enough now and don't be fooled into thinking he's not
So really no matter what Everton are screwed financially?
delete the bot comments man
Huddersfield just lost to Doncaster, so it shows there is some talent up at Goodison.
So, you people just want to forget, worse, ignore, Sean Dyche's CLUELESSNESS in the subs HE made to GIVE Bournmouth the hope, then impetus, they simply did not have until HE decided to give us all HIS version of a 'masterclass' (lolololololololol) of seeing out an already pretty much won game?.. Yes, it was the players themselves who were out on the pitch, when we were doing maybe not so much, then winning, then drawing, then LOSING.. But, HE'S the one making those calls on EXACTLY WHO those players, the RIGHT players,should be AT ANY GIVEN TIME.. & HE FAILED IN THAT JOB AS BADLY AS IT WAS POSSIBLE ON THE DAY!!!...
So much better than the dross on sky sports news listening to all of you here. Different league
Everton will be happy for 17th nothing else matters the new stadium is waiting.Nobody is coming in to buy the club not in the financial mess it’s in anyway
I feel bad for the fans. Can they decide to stop buying tickets and make a statement?
I don't. No one was apparently good enough. Even mocked Moyes after he went.
Everton sell out home and away, They're batshit nuts about their club. They mocked Moyes because he spoke to Man utd behind Kenwrights back and pretty much accepted the job without telling BK first, Moyes left on a sour note but gave everything he could for Everton.
Well from what everyone said, Everton dominated that.last match, and it was simply amateur to throw that away. Surely it's still something to build on.
2-0 up and absolutely FLYING. So what does Dyche do? He removes, Ndaiye - our best player on the day - and puts on his useless 30+ mate Dope-Coure.....and our system collapses, confidence goes, panic sets in, defence becomes exposed and we concede 3.
CRAP GAME MANAGEMENT from a dinosaur manager who benches new talent and lives in the dark age of "dont lose" football.
Dixon, Garner, O'Brien, Lindstrõem, Armstrong all BENCHED. Patterson out in the cold since SlapGate.
WTF is going on? Seamus is clapped out, Young should be in a retirement home, Gueye doesnt know what day it is and Dope-Coure - the biggest nobody of all - couldnt hit King Kong's arse with a satellite dish.
Disgraceful, schoolboy, game management from a crap manager. This is ALL on Dyche.
DYCHE OUT
DYCHE OUT
DYCHE OUT
There was one area where the entire panel completely lost touch with reality here...
They spoke about circling the drain in ever decreasing circles and if how one can only do this for so long before succumbing to relegation. They spoke about relegation battle after relegation battle.
Nope!
Let's have it right, Everton finished fairly comfortably outside of that last season even with the horrifically handled points deductions by the EPL. If one was to consider the record on the pitch alone, the games won and drawn etc, Everton less the points deduction would have been mid-table. So the narrative on this matter at this juncture of the show was just entirely false/wrong.
Now Everton may end up in a relegation battle this season, sure, and there start has been awful, but there start last season was identically bad, yet they still less deductions were never anywhere near relegation. So I think objectively, factually, the narrative painted on this matter was simply wrong/false/nonsense.
Everton have huge issues and they do have to dig themselves out of a hole, but it has only been 3 games, and 2 out of those 3 games they might have been expected to lose.
Let's not over egg the pudding for clicks guys! Drama really is better on television!
Next time, let's have a bit more balance and a bit more responsibility re the discussion.
I never thought I would hear Everton described ad a sexy club!😂
new owners , manager and a new set of players please 🙏
Apart from all that though, I think things are going pretty well
They deserve to get relegated. Been circling the drain far to long now.
not how it works
@@TC8787-yq7ogAlways hate those kind of stupid (at best), moreover seemingly just 'snide', type of 'you deserve to go down' type comments!.. 'We', Everton, have been in the top tier of English football longer than any other team except Arsenal.. yet we - somehow - still 'deserve' to get relegated bcos we've had some - very - admittedly shitty seasons?.. mostly of late, btw.. (Pleeeeease take note, eejits.. 👀.. WE STILL HAVE NOT got ourselves relegated in ANY of those dodgy seasons = WE SIMPLY HAVE NOT DESERVED TO!!.. geddit yet?)... 🤷♂️
Just stop the over dramatics, its 3 bloody games and i saw enough evidence in the 87 mins of what this sides capable of and thats without Jarrad, Mangala and Garner.
The squad is stronger then the one that finished 23/24 and that squad got 48 points.
Will be fine and let Dyche guide us to safety ready for the brand new stadium and the last of the players ripping us off go on bosmans in 9 months time.
as a Liverpool fan im loving the state of Neverton and Mo chester utd
They could always get Gareth Southgate, now Steve Bruce is taken.
But for the points deduction, Everton would have finished on 48 points last season (same as Brighton). Miles clear of relegation. Has the squad got better - not particularly. But they'll get away with it - again - because there will always be 3 or 4 teams worse than them (see newly promoted 3 and Forest). Circling the drain is right - I see parallels with where Villa went after Martin O'Neill left. If Everton were going to go down they should have done already when they were cheating PSR rules - now the gulf is so much between the Prem and the EFL - they will keep getting away with it.
Hard to say. Good players coming in but Gueye, Coleman and Young a year older could offset that.
I’d say that there aren’t 3 worse teams though. Leicester & Ipswich have enough about them to compete in the lower half. None of those team have shipped 10 goals, have zero points and Dyche as manager. Ipswich played Citeh & Liverpool, Leicester Spurs & Villa so far btw and both have points on the board.
Getting a new stadium and getting relegated? This will ruin Everton for years.
Its a bit like Sunderland for me, several seasons of poor decisions and bad financial planning while hanging on through a bunch of relegation battles. Long rebuilding period needed after relegation.
Hardly, Sunderland actually made some good decisions it was just probability fell against them
Everton's new motto :
Curl up Ndiaye
Some time in league 2 should do them some good.
Best New stadium in the Championship, Dyche is taking you down
Sunderland fan here. Flirting with relegation and wasting money eventually catches up with you. Rot sets in. I fear for Everton.
What’s next is Sean should be gettin a new 10 year deal
Dopest looking stadium in the championship next season🙌🙌👍👍
I respect Dyche he has done a decent job in very difficult circumstances. But if there is the opportunity for David Moyes to come back i'm voting for Moyes all day long. As a 39 year old Evertonian our most "successful years" were under him. West Ham fans didn't appreciate him but we do. Bring him back.
I really hope that Everton don't do something stupid like sacking Dyche and bring in the con artist Moyes as I would inflict him on my worst enemy 🤣🤣🤣
To summarize all, Everton has mass allergic moments to winning game.
Fuck I miss Phil hay
Sack Dyche. Sack Thelwell. And bring back David Moyes. Then get the club sold to someone who gives a shit.
Moyes had a net spend of £17m in 11 years. All while finishing top 8 for 8 of those years and making a cup final.
What happens on the pitch reflects what is happening off the pitch. Moyes managed to cover both almost singlehandedly for over a decade.
The Bournemouth loss was entirely Dyche's fault and he threw his players under the bus (well worded from 9:07). Pathetic. He's a pound shop Big Sam. And he'll follow the same path throughout his career and will never manage a club bigger than Everton. Despite the fact he treats us like Burnley. Thank God he's out of contract at the end of the season...
They were gonna bring back Moyes but they did a fan consultation that made them think it'd go down too badly. Everton fans are their own worst enemy. The treatment of Benitez was embarrassing, small club syndrome.
Sack the manager, get new players in, get a manager with a Spanish accent. Simples
I don’t ever want to enjoy someone/somethings down fall, but I really want Everton to go down, can’t stand that club.
Your going to be disappointed again
Keep dreaming bellend
Because you're a bellend?
Yep hope the scouse mackems enjoy the championship 😆
@@TheTman257 you really are sad
Lose by at least 2 the Villa
For the good of all, Everton must be relegated this season.
Why?
@@rascassesaintouen8576 The degenerate gambling that created the financial blackhole that is Everton FC has to have consequences.
@@saltmerchant749 what‘degenerative gambling’ are you on about, could you be more specific?
@@rascassesaintouen8576 Having Player Costs that equated to £124 of every £100 of income at one point for one. Over £450m in loans.
This is exactly the kind of degenerate gambling that took down Leeds at the turn of the millenium and by all rights, Everton should suffer the same fate.
Everton will go the way of 1860 München.
Get Dyche out of Everton now
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This Phil is fucking clueless 🤦♂️
Everton are a so-so team at best maybe a relegation side at worst and will be for the next 5 to 10 years. Sad as it is its written in the stars.
sack dyche...then we are fain.simple as that....
Sell some hotels to yourselves
Even the Everton journos come off as a miserable downtrodden lot.
I disagree. He's presenting an accurate picture.
I can’t listen to this BS
I always disliked Everton ever since playing the early CM/FM games at the turn of the century they would always be OP (over powered) under Moyes and be though to beat but still rolling over the AI rivals.
My dislike turned to disgust when I cam across the Jamaican Dancehall producer that calls himself Everton Blender (sounds like Bender). So whenever I would lose or struggle to break down Everton in the Manager games that Everton Blender screaming and shouting would echo over me like a pestering curse. Ever since then I have cursed them and waited for relegation its been a long 20 years but maybe the time will finally come where the club can be reduced to history books like Plymouth Argyle, Sheffield Wednesday and other clubs with bad sounding names.
Relegation looool
I wish all Evertonian would listen to this, to stop there delusional views……
Relegation 😂😂