Mega Man X7 Review - Quickies Don't Cut It
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- An in-depth analysis video for Mega Man X7. Are there redeeming qualities to this infamously bad game? Is it worse than Mega Man X6?
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The death animations are funny. The characters basically become one with the universe.
Nicolò Enrico Rimoldi yeah
XD i cant stop laughing at that comment
They reach enlightenment
@@dragonempress8367 IMPOSSIBLE...
HAHAHAHA!
I’ll do this before anyone else beats me to it.
Ahem... BURN TO THE GROUND!!!
BladeBlur BURN TO THE GROUND
BladeBlur AUGH, IT HURTS!
BladeBlur Wooooh!
AHH IT IS YOU WHO IS CAUSING MY SUFFERING!!!!
BladeBlur STOP IT
This has got to be, one of the more detailed, well composed, in depth analysis of a videogame I have ever seen. The amount of work put into this must have been dozens of hours... just amazing, Thank you Sir and welcome back, we missed you.
Thanks so much, man! Very nice comment read! I put a lot of effort and time into the video. :)
It's not an in depth analysis. It's an in depth assanation towards the game devs
@@RetropolisZone If you think X7's boss rush is shitty than try Zero 1's boss rush that one is much much worse
@@hollyjmcgee That doesn't mean anything. Just because you have opinions on something he can't share it?
1 hour and 40 minutes of X7? This is going to be quite a ride.
The less is said about Maverick names in X7 the better.
@@Specter227I don't like the Maverick names in X8, so? Like, Optic Sunflower, what kind of stupid name is that?
Fun fact: The man who voices Flame Hyenard, Peter Von Gomm, also voices X in this game.
Even more fun fact: He's since went on to voice White Bomber in Super Bomberman R and Spring Man in ARMS.
Fun fact: The man who voices Tornado Tonion, Jack Merluzzi, also voices Zero in this game.
Even more fun fact: He's since went on to voice Master Albert in Megaman ZX Advent and Magnet Bomber in Super Bomberman R.
Didn't know that!
Peter Von Gomm also voices Grey in Megaman ZX Advent.
Damn this game only has like 3 actors
Fun Fact: Axl sounds like an eargrating Ash from the Pokemon anime
I really like Axl too as a character people just kept complaining about his obvious shit voice actor thankfully he's way better in x8
Axl: the sultan of salt.
@2d fighter fan That's why he needed a proper voice actor like in the command mission and X8 games I know axl was put in to be a new playable characters who wasn't executed well but I enjoy his interaction with zero and X it's not major but that's only cause we haven't seen enough of him like Silver from sonic 06
@2d fighter fan Yeah that's why people want them to come up with a sequal Wich they are so you know but it's going to be in development for a long while I'm sure to surpass megaman 11 I hope axl was supposed to find the secret to his creation and who created him and that's more talked about in command mission but with him suffering an attack in x8 who knows what his fate is
I don't even care for her as a ring announcer tbh, she's obnoxious (she was the ring announcer in PRIDE, which you can experience in UFC Undisputed 3)
X: meh violence
I see what you did here.
Don't worry, X8 is a return to form for the X series. It may not be the best, but there's a lot to like.
It is the best tho
X8 is the much needed air-refreshener after the truckload of elephant feces that was the lazy or/and asshole level designs of X6 and the shitty 2D-to-3D transition and god-awful voice acting of X7!
@@Jrdotan How?
@@Jrdotan no......
@@agreedboarart3188 Replayability at its best
Multiple characters with different play styles
Awesome boss fights
More side content than the usual
Challenge that really makes you learn the game and become better at it.
Its just what X should be
Nice
Sonic 3 bonus video?
Kill me...
Nice
when are you gonna make a video on the modern/adventure era games
Cybershell X7 is the original '06
I didn’t know you watch him too
Axl's death fall sounds like something broke off in his ass. *Owhoooooooh!*
X'D
That aside, X7 is bad. I had it as a kid and I hated it. Gave up on the final Sigma fight and broke the disk.
X7 wants you to fall. *A lot.* The camera is bad. You know what? The whole 3D execution is bad.
I still hate X6 more. Give me command mission any day.
I'm sorry if I said this before, but every time you talk, I picture the Scout from Team Fortress 2 behind his computer with a few cans of Bonk.
Also fun fact Red VA in this game is the same guy who voiced Barry in RE1 and Signas also the same VA who voiced Alucard in SOTN
It blows my mind that Chris Redfield and Barry Burton were able to find VA work post-Resident Evil. And in high-profile games, too!
@@Darkkfated Sonic is also voiced by Chris Redfield (Roger Craig Smith), but that voice only fits Sonic characters like Knuckles and Shadow
Signas sounds like a porn actor. But Belgrade did an excellent job as Alucard. Its mind blowing.
Food for thought, imagine if x7 had been developed by the dmc team. Axel would be sort of a gunslinger style, zero would be swordmaster, and x would have some aspects of quicksilver but a little bit of gunslinger. That woulda been interesting
and imagine if X7 was dubbed in Toronto like Mega Man Legends and Resident Evil 2 were.
Zero would most likely be similar to Vergil lol.
Dude I still want this game honestly
Well, X probably would be similar to Nero, if he actually was in Devil May Cry 1. Axl would be similar to Dante, and obviously Zero would be similar to Vergil.
X7 failed at trying something new. X6 failed at doing the exact same thing they had been doing for the last 10 years. In my opinon that's worse
If you think X6 was trying to do the exact same thing as before, you were playing something else
X6 is better than X7 because it it built on a gameplay formula which is inherently great and satisfying. X7 is fundamentally broken.
X6 wouldnt have failed if the project was given more time. If you seen the thought process they had with making X7, you would understand that it was doomed to fail from the very start. Even then I can enjoy X6 way more than X7.
Ok it’s more complicated than that.
Is the head of a snake better than the tail of a dragon? X6 is the worst of something that is still good. X7 is the best of something that is …trash?
Nah. Even while failing X6 is still more fun and faster than X7. X7 is a slower, worse overall game that has ZERO fun factor. Sure, it might not have as many and as bad lows as X6, but it doesn't come CLOSE to the highs of that game.
Wait wait wait
WAAAAAITT
Alia's voice sexy ?
Is this some weird Fantasyland ?
Aye .This guy digs movies and personality.
ahahah, alright.
Her best voice is in X8 though
Peter Von Gomm may have done an atrocious job as X but I want to say he's improved substantially since.
I actually really like his voicework as Bomberman in Super Bomberman R, he's surprisingly expressive in that game and plays the role very well, its a stark contrast to his performance as X.
Shaolin Turtle he really evolved
+Nextwhowantstodie step forward
Absolutely, through maybe he was just given awful voice direction for X, Capcom is no stranger to that.
He also did pretty good as Grey.
loving the runtime man. this is not a rant. this is a event. thanks for the upload.
Thanks man! That's cool to read, haha. I was initially very worried people would be very off-put by the long run time.
Retropolis Zone Well the series is called Quickies Dont Cut It.
I got the Japanese version when I was a kid, I loved the game because it was Megaman X and had to create my own headcannon since I couldn't, still can't, speak Japanese. I had thought Axl's mission was to infiltrate the Maverick Hunters and X couldn't act in missions because he was being contained, since Axl used his powers to imitate X and commit a crime. As the history progresses Axl becomes friends with Zero and X decides to take action, even if people are going to brand him as a Maverick for breaking out, because things have become too dangerous and he can't stay put any longer. Yeah... now that I know the story I do prefer my own headcannon.
Dang. I thought about how to rewrite the story to make more sense, but this is honestly better than fixing up the actual story.
I prefer your head cannon better than the original story, tbh!
Yep. I don't care what Capcom says, this is now my canon X7 story.
1 hour and 40 minutes? Thank you Retropolis! I was waiting so long for this!
Watched the entire thing and great review
That smooth Swanky Kong music.
cjszero01 hey i see you cj !
oh nice you're still alive. hey.
You've really outdone yourself this time - an absolutely fantastic video. Please keep up the amazing work, I always love seeing one of your videos in my subscription feed
For the most part x8 had much better voice acting especially for axl and x the latter being voiced by the VA or did my favorite gundam fighter domon kasshu.
Rone Herushin yeah
Rone Herushin SHINING FINGER
WITH THE HELP OF KYOJI!!
DRIFT DIAMOND!
DRIFT DIAMOND!
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Yeah X8 X is my favorite.
Mate, X8 destroys X7 in voice acting.
Can't wait for the X8 Review
Solo Alencon same here, i am curious
1:58 Didn't expect that segue in there. Thank you for addressing this. :)
Didn't expect YOU to be here and cyber shell.
...yeah...
1:32:32 "Lazy Mind" sums up the developers of this game so perfectly, it's beautiful. XD
Another fantastic review, man.
And with that you made it! You're over the hump. X8 is vastly superior to X7. Sure, it may not hold a candle to the first four entries in the series. But after this streaming pile, it was surprisingly decent, and actually gave me hope for X9. Though, that never materialized, and looks like it never will. Still it was a MUCH better note for the series to go out on than whatever the hell this abomination was.
They even managed to make Axl feel district from X, and have his own, fun, gameplay identity. Though, admittedly, his copy ability is still pants. Unfortunately, that won't become awesome until ZX Advent.
MarxForever uhm... read the lore Model A in Zx Advent is actually [*SPOILERS*]
Created by that game's villan the similarity is just coincidence
MarxForever i love x8 as well by making axl diffrent from x but i hate the usage of retry chips and the level design
alex_9000
I meant the concept of Axl's transformation ability, and how it functions more than it actually being him, per se. I also have a hard time believing Model A wasn't inspired by Axl. It literally looks like him, it acts like him, has the same Weapons and abilities. When something like that comes out of the same studio, that's no coincidence.
Remember everything after X5 had to be reconned since ZX is a continuation of MM Zero, which takes place after X5, but followed much different events than X6. So Model A isn't Axl from X7, because that Axl can no longer exist, but I'm pretty certain he is that timeline's Axl, it's just a new (and much more interesting) origin for him.
satria nugraha
Oh yeah, X8 is by no means perfect. Not a fan of the Ride Chaser levels myself, or the game's aesthetics and pacing. But it's head and shoulders above 7.
MarxForever yes in the STORY its coincidence but from GAMEPLAY yeah its the same
The best part of all this: Mega Man Legends had long since been introduced, meaning Capcom knew what a 3D Mega Man game should look like.
So what on Earth happened here?
I might be fucking crazy but after playing this game for the first time in the Legacy Collection 2, I found it very enjoyable, I kind of like the simplicity of it and how it genuinely tried to do something different. I would never call it a good game by any means but I quite liked my time with it.
X7 screams as "made on a budget" to me, and that seems to be Capcom's perception of the IP very much since the very beginning, why all the Mega Man subseries get to recycle the same character sprite most of the times, but it definitively backfired on this game.
X6 and X7 were failures financially and that did not help X8 which is one of the good Mega Man games out there. Its too bad that Capcom has apparently given up on the X series.
There's an obscure port of X7 for PC made by some korean company
I believe that x8 is way better than x6 and x7. It's like if they learned from their mistakes
Diego Ramirez true, I want to play that game so much
X8 is better than those for me too.
X8 was imho one of the best games of the X series, but unfortunately it didn't sell too well (I think thanks in part to X6 and X7 being such low-points in the franchise) which encouraged Capcom to turn their backs on the X series.
The thing I've gathered about X8 over the past year or so is that it's an uphill moment from X6 and X8, but still not up to par with stuff like X1, X2 and X4. Guess I'll find out when I get to it though. :)
That's a fair assessment of it, though I'd argue it's better than X2 and I personally liked it practically as much as X4, ignoring the Gigavolt Manowar & Avalanche Yeti stages which were the low-points of the game. You'll see exactly what I mean when you play through them. Oh, and the placement of the instant-death spikes coupled with the checkpoint placement in some areas like Burn Rooster's stage.
Looking forward to that video, this one's top-notch!
1:17:54 Wow all these years I did not catch that Signas is Robert Belgrade (Alucard from SOTN) until hearing this again
Fleaker he sounds so bad here
See, I had this sneaking suspicion Alucard and Signas in X7 were done by the same guy, but never looked it up, lol.
Christ I have school all day today and I can't watch this until like 5PM, how dare you tease me like this
Same. I also read that in Adachi's voice.
Michael Peele same
i did the same Emmanuel XD
School? Aren't you in prison, cabbage?
cops have a school, he must have been forced into it by dojima after he got out of the slammer lol
You know , I had to fucking schedule watching this review. It is the longest UA-cam video I have ever watched in a single sitting. That is how fucking long you make 'em. But guess what, I will do it again anyways because you put up some great shit and it is worth to not have everything half baked or important elements overlooked for once. Cannot wait for Sonic CD!
To slightly compliment this game, having in fact played it, I would
rather replay it than put myself through X6 at all... you did NOT make
that game seem fun, and it's the only X game I've yet to beat... even pick up. With this, I promise you, as high or low as you rank it, X8 is in fact, a return to form and run laps around X5 and X3.
Haha, oops! Sorry that you had to find workarounds to watch my videos, man! But I'm very flattered you went ahead and did it anyway and found it worth the time, too! Thanks. :)
I'd just like to point out that I've seen far longer reviews for singular games.
As far as single videos go, I think the longest game review I've seen was Twin Perfect's Silent Hill: Downpour review, which was about 2 hours.
And there's a lot of wrong going on with the game and events surrounding it that justify that length for an indepth video.
Oh, the long awaited X7 review (for some odd reason) and at an hour and 40 minutes at that. This was way more than I was expecting and the wait was well worth it (for how much X7 is worth XD). Taking all aspects of the game into consideration, while watching I think all portions of the game that needed attending to-whether positive or negative-were looked at very competently. Please continue to put out these very well made in-depth analyses.
If I had to put a suggestion for a game I’d like to see covered, and as you’ve mentioned them in a few videos, it would be the Jak and Daxter trilogy or even just the first game would be nice. But that’s just me.
Anyway, I loved the video and can’t wait for the next one. 😁
I have been considering Jak and Daxter and Ratchet & Clank. Thing is: so many games, such little time. Plus each of these videos takes very long to make now. But I do hope I can do Jak or Ratchet sometime next year, even if only one of the games. :)
Also, glad you loved the video! And thanks for the great comment!
Very true, both games have quite a bit of length to them; specially the latter of the two. I think it would be a nice edition to the Quickies Don’t Cut It series though even if it were just one or possibly two of either franchise. I’m a-okay if one never gets produced. Hell, I might even take the idea and make one myself. Who knows?
Personally, the concept of that the fighting has been going on for so long that X is absolutely sick of it is something I found interesting. I actually wish they'd included a flashback of exactly what happened to make someone willing to fight for the innocent completely swear off fighting regardless of the consequences. Of course that's just me overthinking things ^^;;
The only thing I loved about X7 was the introduction of Axl, my personal favorite X character. And that one moment where Axl one shots Sigma. Good thing X8 gave Axl a better voice actor with better direction compared to X7.
Early in the video so I'm not gonna comment on things overall, but I'm honestly dumbfounded at the people who get upset with Sonic or Mario for having 2D sections in the game. When everyone is asking for "variety" in their game, THAT is what I'm talking about, it changes things, without being a crazy shift to the entire flow of the game like say... the extra characters in Spyro 3. 2D Mario or Sonic are still the same core mechanics as 3D, most of what changes is the level itself, you aren't being forced to learn a full new set of mechanics and controls.
last i check, the 2d parts are actually some of the most praised in those games.
seriously, almost every review of generations talk about how much better the 2d segments are. and everytime you get a 2d gameplay in the 3d mario games, people love it alot.
so im also very confused by who exactly are these people who live in such a bizzarre alternate dimension?
Games in the sixth generation didn't constantly use 2D sections, and many simply want games like that.
I don't know. Personally I don't have a problem, but variety doesn't necessarily mean drastically changing the perspective and how you play the game. 2D and 3D is as opposite as you can get and a few some people really enjoy one over the other. I can see why it can irk people
Imagine if x7 just had Legend's gameplay and stage design...
@Overbite To be fair, neither were Mario 64 or Sonic Adventure, and it seemed to work out for them.
@@damienthonk1506 well, this is their first 3d game, cant do your best on the first try.
Their failure to commit to 3d is what killed it. I've been a MM fan for nearly 40 years and I wanted nothing more than a 3d MM after the N64 came out and I saw what was possible. When I saw this was "2.5d" as they reported in EGM and Gamepro in their preview article, I lost all interest and didn't get it. There is an unfinished half life mod you can play as MM or Protoman in full 3rd person 3d and it's really a shame they never finished it. You can load in and jump around the stage, but no enemies without someone else to play it with. Just what they had was amazing and was what I've been hoping for since the 90s. There is MM 8bit death match, which is a 3d MM FPS in the 8bit graphics and its awesome. MM Legends was a great start, but it wasn't really MM and nobody was interested. I'd settle for a remake of MM 1 - 4 in a Legends style game. I did love MM Legends BTW, I owned all three for PS1 (Legends 1, 2, and misadventures of tron bonne)
Jesus 1 hour 40 mins? you deserve more subs
samster hamster Never comment about being hearted. Lmiao. that ruins it.
Ehrisaia Aleidria O'Shannon. alright I'll take it off my guy
samster hamster Not a guy honey. and I was only kidding! lol.
Ehrisaia Aleidria O'Shannon. I know but my gal doesn't ring as well
samster hamster Lmiao!! ooh ok. got it. haha.
This video came out 29 minutes ago...I wonder who's already watched the whole thing and more importantly, *HOW?!?*
Mega Man X7 should BURN TO THE GROUND
True
X6 too
They could literally just have X on another mission or something, or make different playable maps for X. Like X has to fight his way back. So everyone can play Axl and X and Zero.
Or just make him playable after the intro stage
7 isn't great, especially the voice acting, but at times I find it kinda enjoyable. I appreciate a lot of the stuff it tries to do in 3D, it's just badly done. It's not nearly as obnoxious as the horrific X6, but it's pretty bland.
The thing that really spoils the game is the Mavericks. They're dreadfully designed, both aesthetically and in battle. I will unlikely replay the game any time soon, but I'd sooner play X7 than X6.
Still not as garbo as X6. No mandatory parts or special weapons needed to beat the game
You don't need special weapons but some are required or bosses become next to impossible (Red, Sigma, etc.) and with the special weapons they become a joke. And you need to do mandatory things just to unlock X or he sucks.
It's worse because of the fact that you can't just glitch your way through stuff (like using Zero infinite i frames through Gate's lab) and you HAVE to deal with all of the problems stated in this video without the ability to cheese them. Image going through Gate's lab without any armor. That's basically X7.
Oh and it has the worse Sigma second form in the whole series. Bottomless pit, punches do stun so you die instantly, no weakness, etc. You will die a lot because of game mechanics. It's basically a worse version of Gate's battle. Plus you can't turn off voices or Alia's OR skip anything. And if you are doing legacy collection you have to basically listen to ALL of Alia's tutorials.
I hate both games but I hate X7 more because of the whole "Herp Derp you can't rotate the camera so you die from stupid things and you can't skip ANYTHING and have to listen to voices. Every time you die."
I respect X7 more than I do X6.
X7 had to be built from the ground up, while X6 didn't. X4 had already laid the perfect foundations for the X series in the PS1 era.
And you can still beat X7, it's a serviceable game, just not an enjoyable one. X6 is a game purposefully built to annoy and frustrate the player, and it had no reason to be made that way.
X7 was bad but I feel like they at least tried to, well, make a game. X6 is the worst for me because it's so obvious that zero shits were given by its creators.
i completely disagree, its a nice feeling knowing you tried, but in games, you either sell a playable game, or you dont sell it at all.
for all the faults x6 has, its also has its good points, x7 has no redeeming quality.
you can actually have fun in x6, thats why in the x6 video you can find ALOT of people saying that its a guilty pleasure.
in x6 boss weapons are usefull, and gameplay wise, its probably the best control of the series.
yes its much more dificult, and even unfair, but diferent from x7, you can play it.
trying to make a game, and failing is no excuse, its still a failure, of anything, x6 at least presents good aspects.
The only thing I found redeemable about X6 was the soundtrack. Regardless which one an individual considers worst is kind of a moot point since they're both awful.
X6 may be a clusterfuck of wonky level design, enemy placement, weird mechanics that aren't fully explained, somewhat frustrating difficulty *cough*NightmareMother*cough*, horrifying translation and weird story, but at least it looks really good, the OST is great and fits each level very well and despite all that shit previously mentioned, it's fun to play.
X7 is the opposite, I like Axl, I like the idea of Red Alert, I like the idea of X just saying "fuck it, I'm sick of fighting", despite hating the fact that you need to take out 4 Mavericks to unlock... uh... the titular character.
But the game feels horrible to play for a myriad of reasons, it looks actually ugly, the english dub makes me sad (although the japanese dub is good), and giving X and Axl the same weapons was a dumb idea, especially since they were trying to give Axl the spotlight, which is understandable, and that's just some of it's problems.
I will happily pick up X6 and replay that from time to time, but I don't feel like touching X7 ever again. Axl and Code Crush were the best things to come out of that, thank fuck for X8.
"X7 isn't bad-looking by any means!"
... I mean... I'm sorry, but it really, _really_ is. It's this plasticy, goofy-looking mess, nothing looks right, even basic combat visual effects look incredibly lame and cheap. It all looks like some knockoff off-brand children's toy set. And I have _no idea_ what you mean by "smooth animations". Like, no, I'm sorry, this game looks awful.
Though I guess Pokémon Sword & Shield has animations on about this level, including just rotating characters instead of having them turn around properly - and that's a recent game, so I guess that technically makes X7 really ahead of its time!
The line "If you keep misbehaving, you won't get your snack. " has to be one of the funniest lines in x7
Soldier Stonslong
Wind Blowrang
Bornado Tonion
Flame Hyenfart
Tripe Ateator
Vanishing Gungapoo
Sploosh Worfly
Ride Whoreski
If dashing and jumping are your thing, then you definitely need to do the Mega Man Zero series if you haven't already. It adds Slashing to the whole Dash/Jump formula
I've always been disappointed in how shallow reviews of this game tend to be, failing to properly address its few high points, nor properly dissect its many, many failures. This was a great video; I'd assumed you stopped at X6 for good when I found your channel a few months ago. So glad you made this, really looking forward to this level of analysis for X8!
As a suggestion, go in knowing you'll hate the level design; it's baffling how poorly it works with the renewed emphasis on speed and "kicking ass" that comes with the game's new mechanics. It's one of those critical problems that, if not properly understood, will make almost everything the game gets right impossible to appreciate. Still an inexcusable, massive flaw, but I missed out on a lot to appreciate when I junked it after one frustrating playthrough. Play PC version btw; Final Stage is almost impossible without a glitch involving one of Zero's moves that involves holding up and down.
How can people say 6 is worse than this? I mean sure,it is the gaming equivalent of a middle finger,but at least it was build above a solid foundantion...and yes,it can be fun to try overcoming it in different ways.
X7 ,on the other hand, is a conceptual disaster and had no right being that bland and atrocious on the time it was released.X6 at least had the excuse of being rushed to please the fans.
Francisco Almeida I recommend the Reviews of X6 and 7 by J's Reviews
My sentiments exactly. X6 was horrible in a lot of ways, sure, but X7 is just a broken mess through and through. There are hardly any redeemable qualities about it whatsoever. At least with X6, it gave us better Z-saber animation for Zero, some decent armors for X and even a pretty challenging final boss if you play it as Blade Armor X.
X7 on the other hand just gave X one armor. ONE, and it's not even that good. It's decent I guess, but nothing special like the ultimate armor from X4-X6. And like the review said, they butchered Zero as a playable character, something you don't do in a X game considering how iconic he is.
It's for stuff like this why I'll never touch X7, in-spite of the fact I love the series. It's the black sheep of the franchise as far as I'm concerned.
That's exactly why.
X6 took the already well-realised foundation and ruined it, whereas X7 can be seen as a new experiment gone horribly wrong.
It's basically a 'pick your poision' kind of a deal, and I honestly think the former is worse in that department.
Pete the diference being, x6 can actually be fun to play, boss weapons are some of the best in the series, and both the upgrade systems as well as x armors are among the best.
x7 on the other hand, is not, its slow, boring, and has almost no redeeming quality.
its less a pick your poison, and more of a, x6 is flawled, and bad by comparisson with the other entries, x7 is just bad.
Truth be told, I personally thought X6's weapons actually sucked (barring Commander Yammark's)
This was my first megaman game I've ever played, as such it holds a special place in my heart. I realize that it isn't very good, but I still enjoy playing it every couple years.
I'm 5 years late, but... SAME, this was my first game and I love it very much!
Huh, I actually really like the Ride armors and chaser stages in the previous games. They give you something fresh and gratifying with faster pacing and the feel of badassness. In X4 the parts where you get the ride armor are always packed with more enemies and hazards, which makes getting through all of them without losing your Ride armor feels like an accomplishment. The chaser levels, while I agree to be irritating when you first play it, feel very satisfying when you eventually master them
I'm actually kind of glad this video is long as it is. Mega man x7 is most definitely one of the games most deserving of the description "Quickies don't cut it"
good video, I enjoyed
"I love the boss theme for X7 in particular. It's my favorite out of all the X titles."
Oh boy! That's going to change in the next review. ; )
Agreed. The soundtrack is pretty much one of the only things you can salvage from this game.
Mega Man X and Sonic were two of my favorite franchises growing up so i’m glad i stumbled upon your reviews, RZ.
The crosshair graphic system you show at 5:33 could actually allow manual aiming to work in a fixed camera 3rd person game. The crosshair can cover any potential point on the screen, so the shot just needs to land where the crosshair is to hit any enemy in 3d space. No 3d depth guesswork would be necessary at all. Right stick controls crosshair, left stick controls movement, simple as that. This could be supplemented with rotation and pan control with the dpad.
I can't think of a single game that uses this sort of system, and I am very curious to see how it would play. I imagine it would be similar to games like plazma burst 2, which do exactly this but in 2d and with the mouse controlling the crosshair.
The main advantage of this system in the context of a 3d game would be allowing the developer to give their game more interesting and varied camera perspectives than typical RaC style freecam/strafecam games, but still have decent shooting controls. Having the camera glued to the character all the time isn't always the desired visual experience. This sort of aiming control would actually make a lot of sense in a game like X7, maybe even classic resident evil.
My first X game was Megaman X7. That...was a wrong move on my part, entirely. >_<
Though the first X game I personally OWNED instead of playing at a friend's house was Megaman X: Command Mission.
It's an RPG so I can understand if the answer is "no," but I'd recommend it for a Quickies Don't Cut It" episode. Best way I can describe it is Final Fantasy Mega Man X. But it had awesome new characters and the mechanics were incredibly competent. Like Steel Massimo and Cinnamon.
I've always hated X's non violent shit. I understand he hates it but he fought to begin with because he's drawn more to avoid injustice. On a meta note, it's funny to see him struggle with violence. He's the first robot to have human thought/will, he's just struggling with the human nature of endless conflict and doesn't know it.
1:21:45
Zero: I'm Batman!!
X wakes up : Okay, I'm gonna read from the script.
46:24 I think it is a flaw in X5 and X6 but not X7. In X5 and X6 you can only bring one character, so if you wanted to distribute the heart tanks evenly among the two characters you would practically only have four tanks despite collecting eight. In X7 you can bring two characters per level, sort of giving you twise the lifebar. But since there are now three characters, you could hypothetically power up Zero Axl ,(who btw is nothing but an inferior version of X in terms of gameplay), then suddenly unlocking X because nothing within the game makes you beive that you will be abel to play as him, and then realising that he is a better Axl and you have wasted half of the collectibles on him. Everything would have been better if X took the place of Axl in terms of gameplay and Axl didn't exsist.
or, if the heart system was better AND Axl was better developed. why not give him the ability to turn into the bosses?
that would be a much better, and make alot more sense in the story. since thats the whole gimmick about him.
Something funny about the voice acting in this game, is that a number of the major voices here were brought back to voice the English dub of ZX Advent, and while its still not the greatest thing ever, it really shows how some decent direction and writing can help a games presentation. Seriously, listen to X in this game, and then Grey in Advent, and its worlds apart. (though whether the compression helps or hurts the performance is up to you.) Also Alia's voice actress is Pandora... Make of that what you will.
I'd rather play X6 then X7.
1:19:51-1:20:04
I have an even stronger reason why Dr. Wily coming back in most of the Classic games isn't the same as Sigma in the X games. *EVEN IF* the Classic games were a lot deeper in lore and storytelling than they really are, there's still the excuse that Dr. Wily is arrested instead of killed by Mega Man and the possibility of him escaping prison. But in the case where Sigma is straight up destroyed, it's another story.
X7 sucks, but the soundtrack is fucking awesome
Nickkiller -07 X1, X4, X5, X6, and X8 soundtracks was better than X7 soundtracks in my opinion. X7 did had great soundtracks just like:
Conflict escape stage
Awake road again
Stage select 1 and 2
Vanishing gungaroo
Snipe anteator
Tornado tonion
Flame hyenard
Splash warfly
Soldier stonekong
Wind crowang
Boss theme
Palace road stage
Crimson palace stage 1 and 2
Both sigma themes
Ect.
Code Crush is such an awesome theme song.
Damn right it does - but so does X8.
Burn burn to the ground
Nickkiller -07 X8 had good tracks like:
Noah's park
Maverick mid boss
Vile battle
Stage select
Avalanche yeti
Burn rooster
Both earthrock trilobyte themes
Both bamboo pandamonium themes
Gravity antonion
Gigabolt man o war
Boss battle theme
Sigma stage Select
Jakob elevator
Gateway
Copy sigma
Sigma palace
True sigma
And both lumine themes
As an x7 fan all I have to say Is
How im happy that most people see this game as a okay game
And not the reason why we can’t have nice things or the worst game of all time
Thank you x6 for taking all the shit
So x7 won’t get that much hate
40:45 So like robot chicks now?
Man, this game looks awful. Your character always looks like he's walking on an invisible conveyor belt that's moving backwards.
X7?.......this ain't gonna end well.....
Oh man I laughed my ass off at that Flame Hyenard part. Also, it seems like it's a bug since the Japanese voice over doesn't have that issue; he does talk, but not every split second.
DID YOU KNOW Infinite Majinion IS A WATER FLEA?
Oh, crap. Wrong video.
Great review, dude. Finally finished it. I liked how you put in some time for the few positives this game has to offer. Although, I don't know how you managed to play through this game four times. That's nuts.
Take me sideways, daddy.
I've been binge-watching your content (namely the X1-X6 videos, not in order) since I found your channel earlier today. Good stuff. I feel like you're better at keeping your personal bias out than a lot of other reviewers, which I really appreciate. Looking forward to more from you.
Good review, tho there is two major thing you forgot to mention.
1) In the intro level, you see, if you lose all of your lives, you DON'T get a game over, instead without warning, you get sent back to the title screen.
2) If you rescue nearly all of the rescuable Reploids and the collectible and get a game over, they will put you through an into of ALL of the Reploids that you have collected.
I knew all of this because I played this on the Megaman X Legacy Collection 2 for PS4, it made me inrage upon seening them, so I can see peoples complaints about this game.
21:31 I have an inside joke with my friends, where, everytime someone mentions violence or any crime, i'll always say "WhY mUsT pEoPle keEp tHiS aCuRseD cyCLe oF aGreSsiOn?" Or "wHy MuSt pEoPle FIGHT oNe anOtHeR??" Is X's tone of voice. Most of them know x7 so they find it hilarious xD
X7 was released in PC also, it wasn't a PS2 exclusive
Let's be honest, who gives a shit about the PC version, considering it was a hack job port only released in Korea.
Took the words outta my mouth, lol.
This game really needs to BURN! BUR- BU- BURN TO T- BURN TO THE GROUND! BURN TO THE- BURN TO THE GROUN- *BURN!*
1:15:58 Not to excuse X7's framerates, but stating that if falls short of Jak & Daxter isn't an indication that its optimization was "sloppy". Jak & Daxter's optimization was *crazy* good, far beyond the standard that someone can reasonably expect for a PS2 game. It would be great if all games could perform as well as Naughty Dog's output, but some developers' strengths lie in other areas.
I understand that Jak & Daxter's optimization was of insane levels, but the fact Mega Man X7's graphics aren't nearly as complex and the worlds aren't nearly as expansive, X7 by comparison does feel a bit sloppy. Maybe it was a harsh comparison, but for 2003, X7 just feels like it isn't using the PS2 hardware that well. It doesn't even use any anti-aliasing, which Ratchet & Clank and Jak and Daxter do.
Retropolis Zone
You betray yourself.
The start of the video comes off as if x7 was better than x6.
You rant about the flaws for 5/10 minutes then bring up the high points as mediocre or decent.
Just biased but you are better than J's Reviews.
I myself can provide more great things of x7 than anyone else could about x1.The length of the video and your tone definitely drips with cynicism.
Jesus !! Some people forgive it because it was the first 3D X game.A 3D Game that wasnt named legends. It wasn't Duke Nukem Forever or Final Fantasy which took 10+ years to evoke gigantic hype and spectacular hopes and reviews.Slowdowns happens because it was rushed and wasn't optimized .Same case for dropped features, x1 glitches,x6 being so punishing,x8 having not so stellar graphics
Most people fail to see it as a decent game .Xover is a abomination. Same categorization puts DOS megamans,mm6,sf2,x6,bn4/5.
X3 and X7 have great features nobody cares about.Just the utter of x1 better than x3 demolishes any ray of credit to these games
I countered some of your whinings above but you value some other crap and not me cause I said why your criticism is excessively harsh and are erroneous on many levels.
Music and Graphics only.I'm sure its definitely better than x6 albeit being not so awesome X6 has no excuses aside from having improvements to X5.This game brought new ride Armors .X5/X6 didn't do it.X8 did it.Crab Ride Armor was entirely unique and functions on the same level as others .Such and Such.
I can definitely be a competent guy to prove you wrong.
Take a try if you didn't give up already and are courageous.
Dare you
How do I betray myself? I never even said X7 is better than X6 anywhere in the video, lol. Neither did I imply that in any way.
I rant about the flaws because they really are quite bad for a 2003 game. Super Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet & Clank, Mega Man Legends - they're all games that did the 3D transition, optimization of coding and/or shooting mechanics more competently than X7, and years BEFORE X7. And about the positives I did mention, what I am supposed to do? Not mention them at all? Just because I think the game's high points it has still just aren't remarkable in grand scheme of things, should I refuse to bring attention to them at all? Thus causing you to call me out for not mentioning any good aspects whatsoever?. Some of the levels are OK, but not more than just OK. Some other levels are just plain bad. Compared to the level design of previous X titles I don't think it's good overall at all.
I ignored your comments because I know this discussion isn't going anywhere, especially when you start resorting to things like ''whinings'', ''I dare you'' and ''prove you wrong'', just because I have legitimate criticisms of a game that I think is immensely flawed. It makes it feel like a personal attack rather than a disagreement and when you do that you've lost me. I'm not gonna pretend I'm bias free, because nobody is, but I love Mega Man X and was very much going into this review trying to come out with some positives, only to realize there really weren't all that many. I really tried to not be as negative as anybody else, but couldn't.
For example, why should I care about the game bringing new ride armor designs if the underlying gameplay and mechanics with them are just so shallow and uninteresting? If you enjoy them that's fine, but their visuals designs means nothing to me. Even then, I flat-out stated in the video that I didn't care one bit about the Ride Armors and Chasers in the previous X titles, either. Plus, I said the spiderbot was cool and fun to use, but also said the game just throws you into room of enemies with no sense of depth and strategy to the combat, therefore making me not caring about the damn thing in the end.
Me ignoring you has nothing to do with giving up or that you ''countered my whinings'' and that I didn't know what to say back; it has to do with the fact that I don't agree with your previous comment and still don't with the comment you just wrote, that my free time is already limited as is and that I feel this discussion isn't gonna bring us anywhere. Maybe if you worded your comments differently I would have taken the time to respond, instead of resorting to calling me and J biased just because we don't agree with your opinion on this game.
Nah, man. You are completely misunderstanding my intentions with the review. I am not afraid of not being honest, because I know I was being honest with what I thought. I've put far too much work and sleepless nights into this video to know it wasn't meant to be biased or hating for the sake of hating. If I were so biased as you say, why in the world would I ever make an absolute last-minute decision to scrap the part about Axl's weapons where I incorrectly labeled them as shit, and then make fun of myself for doing so? At the last minute of making this video I gave X7 credit for its weapons being pretty fun and useful, when I could have easily not given a damn and leave it in unfair that way.
Have a nice day, dude who knows everything better than me and who knows my true intentions better than I do. I'm sure this attitude you're displaying gets people to like talking to you.
Retropolis Zone
No dude you're just like every reviewer who can't stop crying and whining.
Oh my attitude .I didn't get to see in-depth flaws of x1/x4 .Most people think them to be almost non existent.
Great video! About the going past enemies dilemma in general, be it 2d or 3d, perhaps there could've been an optional mechanic per stage like enemies shutting down lights, healing the boss (10% per 15 enemies left?) or increasing the boss' damage output :D My dream is to mix a metroidvania world full of exploration and megaman zero combat oriented sections into an amazing experience with new weapons from bosses and movement and combat mechanics for each... still gotta think it out through though :P
About the stone faces in the forest stage perhaps a better alternative would've been balancing out the rising stone heads with spikes and precision air dashing sections! Thank you for the effort in making this thought provoking video ;)
oh yeah! *remember to BURN that like button TO THE GROUND!*
X7 is probably one of the worst anniversary titles of all time (not one of worst games to me personally). Fucking nostalgia everywhere, just like in X5.
X7 could've been great if it'd taken some pages from Ratchet 2 in terms of controls and especially level design. But what we have here is a messy pile of garbage that has no reason to exist. And considering Going Commando, Jak and Daxter 2 and Megaman Zero 2 (X7 in NA came out at the exact same day as Jak 2 and Megaman Zero 2 in NA) came out at the same year, it was already kinda doomed to failure in terms of sales.
But with that being said, as shitty as the game is, I don't hate it nearly as much as some others do. Hell, I'd even go as far to say that some people are being extremly hyperbolic. There are some genuinely interesting ideas present in X7, the game's soundtrack IMO is kickass and one my favourites of the X series and in the end, X8 realized X7's mistakes and becomes a better game because of that.
I loved the review, even though I felt pretty bad for you when you covered Crimson Palace because you sounded like you were going insane.
Daxtery Toon Nostalgic kinda make sense in X5 cause it's the game that meant to be the end of X series.
Daxtery Toon add X7 to the list of shitty anniversary titles, like Sonic 06.
As bad as X7 is xOver is a MUCH worse anniversary title
Jones the Moblin oh god, I forgot all about that. What was Capcom thinking?
U1GX Especially immediately after cancelling 3 Mega Man titles and their PR guy, Christian Svenson (I believe is his name), blaming Mega Man fans for their cancellation.
This game is better than both X5 and X6. Facts. I rather have harmless bore over controller breaking shit stage design.
How to describe X7 in 4 words? "Burn to the ground!!!!"
As much as I love 3rd person I do believe that Megaman X should stay a side-scrolling game and I think Mega Man Legends you could lock on to enemies to
Gate wasn't a Sigma Underling, Sigma was more or less his underling? He revived Sigma like he revived his murdered reploids. Sigma was incomplete and wasn't there of his own accord and had no influence on gate for the entire story. Wily was a bigger player in X6 really, or Isoc, or whatever.
Also, Zero is great in this game once you get snipe anteater's weapon. You should never try to do Zero's combo in this game, and should just stick to repeating the first slash.
Also, you're never meant to backtrack in the airforce base. you just gotta keep going forward.
I didn't have trouble navigating the jet bike at full speed. works best that way since it takes like no time to clear a lap, so just speed through 5 or 6 times to collect everything.
So really, X7 is like a rotten apple. It looks bad and smells bad. If you choose to bite into it, well, what did you expect?
While X6 is like a poisoned apple. It looks tasty and enticing, but it just kiils you on the first bite.
A review that finally managed to convince me as to how this game could be perceived as worse than X6, nice job once again.
Seeing MMSF2 with a lower metascore than this pisses me off even more now considering thats actually a decent video game.
I like X8 its much better than X5-X7 i like to believe, but I dunno if you've seen J's review of it, as far as I'm concerned it was on the money though, X8 is probably described best as a love it or hate it experience, and perhaps many who remember it fondly only do so because X5-X7 are so bafflingly designed that getting something even a bit decent with X8 managed to stand out.
I say this as a massive MM fan with love for the franchise in its entirety that the X series is extremely overrated among Capcom games, and I don't entirely fathom how most perceive it as the best part of the Mega Man franchise putting up with its glaring faults while shunning bold spin-offs like Battle Network, Star Force, Legends, and at times even the more traditional Zero and ZX games, all of which I'd argue are better designed than a good chunk of the X series.
We've had this discussion before, When X is good its really freaking good, but those instances are more few and far in between than i'd like to admit.
even on a narrative standpoint I feel X can be ultimately sillier than Classic due to using the same tricks like obvious bad guy twists, but adding on problems of ill explained and under developed new characters(Axl is the rare exception) and then expecting you to take it all so seriously.
Battle Network is silly too and pulls a lot of similar crap, you'd think it'd be less forgivable given its an RPG, but its not exactly a story driven one MMBN's story mostly follows the daily life of a 5th grader who gets caught up in various terrorist activities in unexpected places and uses his cyber buddy MegaMan to intervene and save the day, its presented in an episodic, Saturday morning cartoon like fashion on purpose and is basically a giant satire commentary about the advancement of networking technology, it doesn't want to be taken seriously like the X series does.
Zero, Legends, and Star Force remain the greatest narrative highlights of this franchise and all of them do a much better job than X in many of the same areas.
I'm being a salty fuck so i'll stop, I just really don't get people.
Once again nice review I think its worth mentioning that X7 was a rushed product that turned out as bad as it did due to time constraints, i just get the feeling that it was gonna be more at some point every time i see it and i play it, it was originally supposed to be co-op too, its a real shame because i think there was potential in everything the game attempted really.
Shaolin Turtle starforce 2 is pretty bad but yeah i dont think it should be rated lower than x7
I can see how one wouldn't like MMSF2 I just think it's redeeming qualities are still strong enough to prevent me from calling it bad, the worst parts about Star Force 2 are the story, and backtracking combined with high encounter rate and less fast travel options is just setting a game up to piss players off.
But the battle system is improved from the first game as are the visuals, and the music and general presentation is as good as ever, Star Force 2 brought with it an online multiplayer battles, an extra multiplayer mode sky-hi coliseum that's a blast if you can find others to play with, and it did more with post game content than it's predecessor, and even has a secret final boss and a secret ending, something no other Mega Man RPG has to my knowledge.
The multiplayer component shouldn't be entirely ignored considering the developers really had multiplayer and connectivity components at the heart of the MMSF trilogy, it's like ignoring the multiplayer aspect of Pokemon, just something that shouldn't be done.
I don't think Star Force 2 is as good as the first game or even a great game in general, but unlike X5-X7 it does manage to improve on it's predecessor in ways that ultimately matter, It isn't a game full of new ideas that are all undercooked and serve as a detriment to the core gameplay.
I still think it's a much better game than critics made it out to be and overlooked just like the rest of the trilogy.
Shaolin Turtle ill agree 1 and 3 are overlooked but generally i do think the flaws you mentioned are bigger than you give them credit for most bosses are pretty alright but the secret bosses are just either too annoying or too pathetically easy to break and the bosses enough cant save the overall bad structure of the game also dont remember a secret ending but most battle network games have multiple secret bosses and post-game areas
+theshootingstargod I didn't find any of MMSF2s secret bosses to be annoying personally, and when you say easy to break do you mean with wave command? lots of folks fault MMSF2s difficulty because of it and I've never agreed with that criticism, as its the players choice to go and enter cheat codes at the beginning of the game and break everything, the game does not encourage or force you to do that.
I didn't do this on my first playthrough so for me MMSF2 was the toughest game in the trilogy, i can't count how many times Rogue, Hollow and Le Mu kicked my ass on repeat, until i broke habits and adapted.
if anything wave command is a positive, and allows for custom playthroughs there are several codes that will up the strength of viruses or decrease it as well as codes that make bosses even harder, combined with the ways wave command can be used to influence Mega Man, i had a lot of fun messing around with it on different playthroughs and feel it adds to the game overall.
the flaws i stated are by no means minor they will make or break the game for most people, still the story has its moments, its mostly weak but honestly not much more so than a usual installment of MMBN, it just sticks out like a sore thumb because MMSF1 and MMSF3 have surprisingly strong narratives.
The encounter rate reduces the stronger Mega Man gets and it can be mitigated with cloakers, not a perfect solution to the problem but the attempt is there.
More fast travel options outside the first two areas can be unlocked in the post game which is really stupid and practically too late but its there.
MMSF2 is decent game that holds itself back from being great due to some really odd design decisions.
Not a game i'd recommended playing unless you enjoyed 1 or 3 but not a game i'd tell someone to skip entirely either i know a few people who were introduced to the Mega Man franchise through that game, and they loved it, It might not be a great sequel but its a decent video game on its own, better than it got credit for certainly.
+theshootingstargod I didn't find any of MMSF2s secret bosses to be annoying personally, and when you say easy to break do you mean with wave command? lots of folks fault MMSF2s difficulty because of it and I've never agreed with that criticism, as its the players choice to go and enter cheat codes at the beginning of the game and break everything, the game does not encourage or force you to do that.
I didn't do this on my first playthrough so for me MMSF2 was the toughest game in the trilogy, i can't count how many times Rogue, Hollow and Le Mu kicked my ass on repeat, until i broke habits and adapted.
if anything wave command is a positive, and allows for custom playthroughs there are several codes that will up the strength of viruses or decrease it as well as codes that make bosses even harder, combined with the ways wave command can be used to influence Mega Man, i had a lot of fun messing around with it on different playthroughs and feel it adds to the game overall.
the flaws i stated are by no means minor they will make or break the game for most people, still the story has its moments, its mostly weak but honestly not much more so than a usual installment of MMBN, it just sticks out like a sore thumb because MMSF1 and MMSF3 have surprisingly strong narratives.
The encounter rate reduces the stronger Mega Man gets and it can be mitigated with cloakers, not a perfect solution to the problem but the attempt is there.
More fast travel options outside the first two areas can be unlocked in the post game which is really stupid and practically too late but its there.
MMSF2 is decent game that holds itself back from being great due to some really odd design decisions.
Not a game i'd recommended playing unless you enjoyed 1 or 3 but not a game i'd tell someone to skip entirely either i know a few people who were introduced to the Mega Man franchise through that game, and they loved it, It might not be a great sequel but its a decent video game on its own, better than it got credit for certainly.
Here why I think X7 is better than X6
X6 is a product of rushed and lazy design. It's a cash grab in my eyes. Knowing that they wanted money from the x series.
X7 is the product of poor experimental game play. You can really see that they didn't know how it works. They also wanted it different to legends.
Play x6 you're pissed because its rushed . Gates lab for example.
But X7 you can get fun from the poor voice acting and questionable hiccups. I always laugh getting caught on ledges.
Compare it to playing sonic 06 to forces. 06 being X7. People like 06 cuz yes it's bad, but there's things in it people like. But no one wants to play forces again. I just enjoy X7. The levels feel more fun. I'd rather play radio tower than rainy turtloid.
I like X7. It's a fun game to play for giggles
It's a matter of perspective. I think X7 is worse because the levels and bosses are incredibly boring, and the game is abysmally slow in the most trivial areas, such as menus. There is absolutely nothing I get out of X7 besides laughing at how terrible it is. I do experience the frustration with X6 that other people do, and it's still pretty bad, but it has the luxury of being built on an engine and foundation that is really fun and beloved. And I do see a good game in X6 underneath all the crap; I just do not at all in X7.
99% of people enjoy replaying X6 so much more than replaying X7. It's just so much more fun.
Granted, this is entirely subjective, but since your argument is based on subjectivity and popular opinion, I had to.
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"Mega Man X7 is a great game. :V"
I have a strange question to ask. Are Axl, Zero, and X fighting Sigma's second form in space or something? (Since this is taking place within Crimson Palace)
I have no idea, to be honest. They seem to go from Crimson Palace to space and then back to Crimson Palace afterwards, lol.
Retropolis Zone that makes no sense in my book. :/
Great job on the whole MMX video series. I hope you can finish it up with MMX8 and do the Zero & ZX series. Huge fan of your reviews. Cheers.
I play it and in my opinion mega man x7 is good but mediocre at best or worst so if you want to attack my opinion it ok.
I love X7, but because it's so bad it's really fun and hilarious. Unlike X6 which is just garbage.
WTF I PLAYED THROUGH THE WHOLE GAME AND DIDN'T KNOW YOU COULD COPY ENEMIES AS AXEL?>?!?!?
I enjoy Flame Hye-Fart's constant yelling. I find it funny.
EARLY on in 3D gaming, most developers were used to linking the action buttons to the camera rather than the second analog stick. Think GOLDENEYE 64.
From what I remember, it wasn't until I played HALO on Xbox till we had an absolutely perfect setup for all FPS games going forward. Movement on Left stick, camera/look on right, trigger to fire, etc,etc.
But with a Mega Man game, the trigger is too slow for shooting and action buttonss make more sense.