Great work. I've always put Outland in the same universe as Alien regardless, it's always worked for me as an expansion of that world, and I imagine Con-Amalgamate was likely owned by Weyland Yutani anyway.
I have to remember that the Nostromo was done in Zinc Plate Primer. I've been sitting on a Nostromo kit for years and I had no idea! These mini documentaries are incredible.
It's so lovely seeing such an in-depth feature about one of my favourite sci-fi thrillers, talking to two of the absolute best in the industry. Outland is a great looking movie, a real visual beneficiary of Alien and the countless other AAA features that had been made in the UK in the preceding couple of years. When people talk about movies that are derivative of Alien's visual style, in Outland's case that's a highly complimentary statement.
I wanted to be Martin Bower when I was 20. I saw his work in a Paper Tiger book I bought and I built many scratch built models over the years tryng to attain that level of brilliance ❤️
Absolutely gorgeous scenery work. I laughed at the "Don't throw anything away" part. I kept boxes of recyclables, toys, what-nots, etc. to use as bits to build miniature terrain scenery. What these guys do is the gold standard for model work. I miss it now that everything in movies is CGI.
For a while I thought about building something like these structures and raided old electronics.....even tubes from TVs or Radios make great storage tanks. Small resisters also make small O2 tanks.......different gauges of wire can be used for piping. I built a few wooden sailing ships and used all sorts of stuff. I had to make braces for the mast stays so I got some 14 gauge copper house wire and hammered it flat, it made the perfect width. Tap a hole in each end with a sewing needle and voila.
This is pure gold to me. As a young teenager I spent hours on end creating totally original space ship models for movies that would only ever exist in my mind. As I built each one a complete history and bio of each creation would form. It was great to imagine how they might appear on film. Always hoped that I might become a Hollywood model maker following in the footsteps of my heroes. Such fond memories. Thanks so much for these interviews!
@@stevebishop9468 very kind of you to ask. Most of my creations were destroyed in moving from one residence to another over the years but, a few may survive. One piece was my vision of the first human moonbase that may have been slightly influenced by Alpha from Space:1999. It made use of several Leggs pantyhose "eggs" repurposed as atmosphere domes and the nacelles from a couple of USS Enterprise kits as transport tubes. I lit the model with dozens of tiny HO scale train lights diffused by wax paper. Lunar "soil" was a mixture of dried cement dust, baking powder and oil absorbent. The creation won 1st Place in my 7th grade science fair. 😁
Hey check out a film on youtube called SLICE OF LIFE, its a cyberpunk movie made with no budget and the creators made a full size city ala blade runner, its pretty magical and there is a production diary, amazing stuff
Hey check out a film on youtube called SLICE OF LIFE, its a cyberpunk movie made with no budget and the creators made a full size city ala blade runner, its pretty magical and there is a production diary, amazing stuff
They really had it figured out between the late 80s and early 90s, it looked real! nowadays... yeah that stuff is obvious. Some late 90s horror and the Star Trek visual updates (TNG) prove in my opinion definitely that high level SFX with just a hint of CGI fixup is the perfect way to go. Alas pure cheap CGI that looks like shit seems to be the "good enough" of the typical Blockbuster these days.
@@theharbingerofconflation The thing is... there's no "pure cheap cgi". _Cheap looking_ maybe, but CGI implementation always costs a fortune (unless you're an animator for the Jehovah's Witnesses; then it's just slave labor). The issue today is that there's no such thing as a low sfx budget. Everyone getting into sfx-intense content seems to have more money than sensibilities, hence we have the Michael Bay types that don't ever bother to wonder whether all that overdesign is going to end up looking compelling.
Just amazing artists CGI just doesn't have the same feel and look the work they were able to do with miniatures is beyond amazing also thanks for all these great uploads
I feel like a lot of people in the US aren't aware of the importance of Gerry Anderson's TV shows to sci-fi special effects. Kubrick's film 2001 A Space Odyssey used SFX workers from Anderson's series Thunderbirds and Captain Scarlet (etc). That crew went on to work on Anderson's 70s shows Space 1999 and UFO, and the effects crew of those series was then taken on to work on Alien and subsequent sci-fi films produced in the UK.
Thanks! That was the idea. I always saw this as being like just sitting around and talking shop during a slide show. Let the model makers tell their stories. Most interviews today are all about flashy camera moves and fast cuts like music videos which I wanted to avoid.
I love Outland as a movie and the miniatures and production design still hold up today and haven't at all dated, the film still looks fresh apart from the usual tv screens and computers being clunky which always dates sci-fi movies.
I started in miniatures but moved into props after Event Horizon. I must say the pressured ballpark quote on a concept which then magically becomes detailed drawings plus ‘extras’ expected for the same price sounds very familiar!
I watch a lot of special features when i get DVD's and especially love these type of videos about miniatures. Fascinating. Coming at it from such a human perspective rather than a professional one. I hope people understand what I've just said because it's only meant as a compliment. Great stuff.
Brilliant interview. A massive fan of Outland and Alien which have defined future art direction of science fiction movies, including director Duncan Jones whose influence by his movie Moon including the use of modelmaking.
I must confess I always thought Outland and Alien took place in the same universe as both stories belonged in the same timeline. Either way both have great sets, and models, they aided the narrative of the story without any doubts.
same here as well, or at least the find the RGB diffuse gloss reflection values of the stuff for surface shader settings, lol. I figured it wasn't vanilla bland color-neutral gray, wish I had known that a few years back. (looks at a vid suggestion on the sidebar in horror) so, I wonder who will break the news to 'thepropstore' that they need to fix the color of "the model". I'm just a nobody that likes the ship, I don't know or have contact info for any of them. oh, never mind, I guess it was sold at an auction, sad. with any luck at all, the Smithsonian or another museum got it instead of some private collector.
Goldsmith was a genius in a field where being brilliant was the lowest level. When your "rivals" are James Horner, John Williams, John Barry and Lalo Schifrin, you are clearly a world class composer.
Fantastic film, fascinating upload, thank you. Great tip re zinc-plate primer. I spent a great deal of money on a 'Static prop from Outland' (as it was sold to me) in the 90's. Whats a static-prop I asked? as I wasn't yet making props, (a background helmet not worn, but used to dress the set he said). Truthfully, I have never seen it on the screen but it is one of my prized possessions because it is so lovely, it looks like something Ralph McQuarrie or Ron Cobb would have drawn as it is more 70's than 80's in appearance and is actually based around a 1970's full-face Motorcycle helmet and has a black plastic visor (Not transparent, but can be worn). Like something straight out of Omni magazine back in the day. It wasn't actually for sale, it was part of an exhibition at The Royal Show ground and I literally begged to buy it... Cost me a couple of months salary but no regrets. Stay safe folks during the madness, and keep up the great work. 🏆🚀
So nice to hear these gentlemen speak. I grew up reading the big ILM book (the art of special effects) and watching classic sci-fi films endlessly, and I still believe that Return of the Jedi has the best special effects ever made in cinema history. CGI was miraculous in the beginning, but then producers and creatives got spoiled and overused it, transforming every CGI scene into a PlayStation game cut-scene (that's why kids today are totally unimpressed by special effects, for them is just "obvious", which is the opposite of what they're supposed to be)... I believe that the night T-rex attack under the rain in the first Jurassic Park is still the best implementation of CGI ever, mixed with great Stan Winston puppets and Spielberg brilliant direction. Maybe also Mad Max Fury Road or the way Fincher uses it, but the rest of heavy CGI films lost the magic of what special effects really are, in my opinion...
He basically plays the Sheriff in a Western, single-handedly taking on an evil drug cartell who exploits the workers in Io's mining vacility. I love the grimy look and sinister atmosphere of that movie!
I am making a miniature spaceship for a music video. I am considering the painting process as mentioned @15:25 "Zinc Plate Primer". Now, it seems I can't find this particular product; but I have managed to find "Zinc Rich primer". I Would assume this is the same thing, but I leave this to the experts who may know more/ experimented already. Thank you!
I always thought it was a great title myself. I'm glad they didn't go with "Io", even if "10" hadn't been made. Many people have never heard of Io, so that title wouldn't have meant anything to them. "Outland" is far more evocative.
I am only loading them in segments here on my channel. There is no movie. It will be around 15 to 20 hours of segments when finished. A new segment every week!
kit bashing seems to be one of the main stays of building models for space movies and it goes to show how much fun and creativity goes into building models for movies . and i first seen this movie in a drive in theater and it was just so much darn fun
OUTLAND '81 is an great movie.I've saw on VHS video tape in german language and loved that film with these fantastic analoge special-effects.🎥🎞🎬👍👍🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁😂😂 ...SHIPS AND FORMS AGAINST THE NORMS...
I loved Outland as much as Alien. After the cleanliness of Star Wars it was a revelation to see movies like Outland and Alien that made space look like just another dirty disheveled industrial workplace. I still have two Nostromo crew caps from the back of a magazine and wish I'd bought an Outland federal marshal cap too. "Polydichloric euthimal! Those stupid bastards are taking polydichloric euthimal!"
If it hasn't been said before, Martin Bower worked hand in glove with Brian Johnson on Space: 1999 before they worked on Alien. All of that exprience shows in Outland.
Peter Hyams never made a "great" film AFAIK, but came close several times, and Outland is one of those times. Beautiful design, photography, performances, music, script. Probably the best film to be influenced by Alien. One thing that breaks it for me is the moment near the end of the film when Sean Connery's character is outside in a spacesuit, and drops a piece of metal -- which falls quite unlike the way it'd fall in a vacuum. If that shot was fixed, it'd raise the whole film for me.
OUTLAND is the indirect sequel to ALIEN. The "company" in Outland is the same one as the Alien one. They just didn't say Weyland-Yutani. There is a guy who made a kit of the shuttle. Not sure if it's still for sale but it's almost the same size as the filming miniature. First Men In The Moon ship in the background... awesome!
I had a friend in jr high school in his basement, had built a moon base Alpha on a ping pong table. he had it encircled by black drapes, and did supr 8 filming of landings and take offs of eagles. He used a fine sand for the moon surface, and the thinnest fish wire.. had tiny lights on the landing pad.. that was 1976 there abouts. .. and the Corgi die cast metal Eagles from the show Space 1999 were awesome.. fav toy.
"Peter (Hyams) was doing tests on this model and he said "I can't get a depth of field." You know, he was sort of looking for someone to blame while we went away and went home.." Good stuff.
Yeah I love this movie Outland I watched it so many times as a kid growing up on VHS just thought that it was a gritty space movie that didn't have aliens in it
When they painted that big Io city, did they consider a bit of a orange/yellow kinda stain/dusted look especially on upward facing surfaces. The real moon of Jupiter had continuously erupting volcanoes. No atmosphere, so lots of finely pulverized sulfur dust very slowly rains down on the surface all the time.
"Zinc Plate® Ultra II PCP provides heat resistance up to 1472°F (800°C), excellent welding properties" I see now why they liked this stuff, lol The crazy heat from some of the lights they used back then would be no match!
I’d hire these guys today in a NY minute, over full team of CGI compositors any day. Listen to that commitment from them. You’re not going to get that from some kid on a keyboard working an algorithm in post production. This is why Blade Runner, Alien, Space 99, Blake 7 all looked so magnificent. Such incredible detail.
What happened to the greenhouse? Did Martin mean it had been smashed, or had it been deliberately pulled apart? I don't understand what that had to do with Hyams respraying the models.
I believe it had to do with the clear green plastic window portion that wasn't to be painted, so the models had to be taken apart to paint the back and sides white.
Those models from that era still look more believable than anything CGI today. When they had the time and budget to do it right. Not that I'm totally anti-CGI. You can do things with CGI you can't with those practical effects. It's just too band they've practically abandoned this approach.
Amazing models. That story of the studio messing with the models at the end is infuriating though. Glad they were paid but I could totally understand the frustration of months of careful work being literally shit on.
One of the best looking bluray remasters I've seen, definitely get that over the standard def version. The movie itself is good if you like crime-suspense stories, or kind of like the "High Noon" western in space, one cop vs a bunch of corrupt criminals. It very much feels like the same future as Alien, Blade Runner, Total Recall, etc. but just with human-only characters.
@@blackcatgraphics1483 thanks for your reply I will most definitely have a look for the blu Ray version. The above movies u mentioned are some of my favourite movies ever I will look forward to watching it.
I'm sure he knew that it was actually Bauhaus. Say Bauhaus and Bower House run together, especially in a laconic Scottish accent, and they will sound virtually the same. I suspect that he was enunciating Bower House more clearly than most people would to make the point.
Great work. I've always put Outland in the same universe as Alien regardless, it's always worked for me as an expansion of that world, and I imagine Con-Amalgamate was likely owned by Weyland Yutani anyway.
Like in the early days of the mid 21st century...
What a delight listening to Martin Bower and Bill Pearson. Two 'down to earth' artists who've achieved so much & maintained their sense of humour.
I have to remember that the Nostromo was done in Zinc Plate Primer. I've been sitting on a Nostromo kit for years and I had no idea! These mini documentaries are incredible.
Martin Bower and Bill Pearson are absolute legends to my mind.
It's so lovely seeing such an in-depth feature about one of my favourite sci-fi thrillers, talking to two of the absolute best in the industry.
Outland is a great looking movie, a real visual beneficiary of Alien and the countless other AAA features that had been made in the UK in the preceding couple of years.
When people talk about movies that are derivative of Alien's visual style, in Outland's case that's a highly complimentary statement.
I wanted to be Martin Bower when I was 20. I saw his work in a Paper Tiger book I bought and I built many scratch built models over the years tryng to attain that level of brilliance ❤️
Absolutely gorgeous scenery work. I laughed at the "Don't throw anything away" part. I kept boxes of recyclables, toys, what-nots, etc. to use as bits to build miniature terrain scenery. What these guys do is the gold standard for model work. I miss it now that everything in movies is CGI.
For a while I thought about building something like these structures and raided old electronics.....even tubes from TVs or Radios make great storage tanks. Small resisters also make small O2 tanks.......different gauges of wire can be used for piping.
I built a few wooden sailing ships and used all sorts of stuff. I had to make braces for the mast stays so I got some 14 gauge copper house wire and hammered it flat, it made the perfect width. Tap a hole in each end with a sewing needle and voila.
This channel is just extraordinary! Slowly working my way through the videos and they've all been fantastic.
Thanks for watching!
This is pure gold to me. As a young teenager I spent hours on end creating totally original space ship models for movies that would only ever exist in my mind. As I built each one a complete history and bio of each creation would form.
It was great to imagine how they might appear on film. Always hoped that I might become a Hollywood model maker following in the footsteps of my heroes.
Such fond memories. Thanks so much for these interviews!
Would love to see some of your model work.
@@stevebishop9468 very kind of you to ask. Most of my creations were destroyed in moving from one residence to another over the years but, a few may survive.
One piece was my vision of the first human moonbase that may have been slightly influenced by Alpha from Space:1999. It made use of several Leggs pantyhose "eggs" repurposed as atmosphere domes and the nacelles from a couple of USS Enterprise kits as transport tubes. I lit the model with dozens of tiny HO scale train lights diffused by wax paper. Lunar "soil" was a mixture of dried cement dust, baking powder and oil absorbent.
The creation won 1st Place in my 7th grade science fair. 😁
Hey check out a film on youtube called SLICE OF LIFE, its a cyberpunk movie made with no budget and the creators made a full size city ala blade runner, its pretty magical and there is a production diary, amazing stuff
@@msh6865 do you still have the model...or video/still photos of it?
@@shitchops i will check that out
VERY interesting watch - pleased I found this. Thanks for the upload. I'm now off to re-watch the movie!
I miss old school special effects.
Me too mate, me too
Hey check out a film on youtube called SLICE OF LIFE, its a cyberpunk movie made with no budget and the creators made a full size city ala blade runner, its pretty magical and there is a production diary, amazing stuff
Fret not, they're making a comeback in a way. ILM used so many props for Mando my jaw simply dropped.
They really had it figured out between the late 80s and early 90s, it looked real! nowadays... yeah that stuff is obvious. Some late 90s horror and the Star Trek visual updates (TNG) prove in my opinion definitely that high level SFX with just a hint of CGI fixup is the perfect way to go. Alas pure cheap CGI that looks like shit seems to be the "good enough" of the typical Blockbuster these days.
@@theharbingerofconflation The thing is... there's no "pure cheap cgi". _Cheap looking_ maybe, but CGI implementation always costs a fortune (unless you're an animator for the Jehovah's Witnesses; then it's just slave labor). The issue today is that there's no such thing as a low sfx budget. Everyone getting into sfx-intense content seems to have more money than sensibilities, hence we have the Michael Bay types that don't ever bother to wonder whether all that overdesign is going to end up looking compelling.
Just amazing artists CGI just doesn't have the same feel and look the work they were able to do with miniatures is beyond amazing also thanks for all these great uploads
Thank you! More coming soon.
CG artists do do genuinely great work, but, it's true, there is just nothing like a real, made object shot in real light with a real lens.
It amazes that a lot of these guys got their start making these incredible, detailed models literally in their garages.
I feel like a lot of people in the US aren't aware of the importance of Gerry Anderson's TV shows to sci-fi special effects. Kubrick's film 2001 A Space Odyssey used SFX workers from Anderson's series Thunderbirds and Captain Scarlet (etc). That crew went on to work on Anderson's 70s shows Space 1999 and UFO, and the effects crew of those series was then taken on to work on Alien and subsequent sci-fi films produced in the UK.
I never get tired of these great interviews.
As a felow scale modeller I have one word to say to you RESPECT!
Great work on this, I really like how you just let the guys talk - no music and narration, it's the way to do it.
Thanks! That was the idea. I always saw this as being like just sitting around and talking shop during a slide show. Let the model makers tell their stories. Most interviews today are all about flashy camera moves and fast cuts like music videos which I wanted to avoid.
@@piercefilm you nailed it
Wonderful, would love to have worked with them. Loved Outland too.
This was immensely interesting. Appreciate you posting it.
I love Outland as a movie and the miniatures and production design still hold up today and haven't at all dated, the film still looks fresh apart from the usual tv screens and computers being clunky which always dates sci-fi movies.
It breaks my heart to hear that all of their painstaking, detailed airbrushing was covered over with white spray paint.
I was going to comment the same thing. 😕
I guess it was just a photography issue. You'd have to blast the models with a lot of light to make them show up against a black background.
Love OUTLAND.
Awesome miniatures.
I started in miniatures but moved into props after Event Horizon. I must say the pressured ballpark quote on a concept which then magically becomes detailed drawings plus ‘extras’ expected for the same price sounds very familiar!
Event Horizon and Starship Troopers were the last of the great spaceship movies IMO.
Without these guys the movie wouldn't exist visually.
Just brilliant..... Again... ARTISTS & perfectionists in their own right. 📽💪🏼🎥 the work is phenomenal.
Love those photos!!!!
These guys have been my heroes since back in the day! Amazing work!!
The model work in that movie was outstanding.
Great practical effects work. Always looks real, something CG still cannot achieve. Bowers is a genius
Fantastic peace of Movie History! Your videos are so precious and fascinating! Thanks for sharing them!
These guys are amazing artists!
I watch a lot of special features when i get DVD's and especially love these type of videos about miniatures. Fascinating. Coming at it from such a human perspective rather than a professional one. I hope people understand what I've just said because it's only meant as a compliment. Great stuff.
That's what is missing from streaming...all that great stuff that is behind the scenes.
Such an 8nteresting video in to the making of miniature (or massive) models for film making
Those guys where and are great modelmakers. Probably the best !!!
Always loved this film no freakn monsters just a western outer space film the design effects were awesome music score was outstanding
RIP Bill Pearson
Thank you.
Outland is one of my favorite films and an underappreciated classic.
It's High Noon in space
Brilliant interview. A massive fan of Outland and Alien which have defined future art direction of science fiction movies, including director Duncan Jones whose influence by his movie Moon including the use of modelmaking.
needs to be a 24/7 museum dedicated strictly to movie models
Musee du miniatures et film in Lyon France has a whole section devoted to famous sci fi film models.
Great video and thank you for sharing your methodology!
The first issue of Starlog that I ever read covered these Outland miniatures
And the same issue from where I had ordered my CONAM 27 cap !
Wow...Starlog. That and Fangoria. Those were the days !
True artists and craftsmen.
Outland is a friggin fantastic film.
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing this!
I must confess I always thought Outland and Alien took place in the same universe as both stories belonged in the same timeline. Either way both have great sets, and models, they aided the narrative of the story without any doubts.
Well I guess I'm off to find some zinc grey primer. Brilliant 👏.
same here as well, or at least the find the RGB diffuse gloss reflection values of the stuff for surface shader settings, lol. I figured it wasn't vanilla bland color-neutral gray, wish I had known that a few years back.
(looks at a vid suggestion on the sidebar in horror) so, I wonder who will break the news to 'thepropstore' that they need to fix the color of "the model". I'm just a nobody that likes the ship, I don't know or have contact info for any of them. oh, never mind, I guess it was sold at an auction, sad. with any luck at all, the Smithsonian or another museum got it instead of some private collector.
Great work. I have a copy of Outland and most everything still holds up against today's CGI equivalents.
Great interview. I have subscribed to your channel.
Thanks! More segments coming up.
this is awesome..great works..practical effects always the best..
Great movie, another classic SF film with excellent models.
Yes the Alien effects are similar to Outland & similar music which was done by the same person,the late great Jerry Goldsmith
Goldsmith was a genius in a field where being brilliant was the lowest level. When your "rivals" are James Horner, John Williams, John Barry and Lalo Schifrin, you are clearly a world class composer.
Fantastic film, fascinating upload, thank you. Great tip re zinc-plate primer. I spent a great deal of money on a 'Static prop from Outland' (as it was sold to me) in the 90's. Whats a static-prop I asked? as I wasn't yet making props, (a background helmet not worn, but used to dress the set he said). Truthfully, I have never seen it on the screen but it is one of my prized possessions because it is so lovely, it looks like something Ralph McQuarrie or Ron Cobb would have drawn as it is more 70's than 80's in appearance and is actually based around a 1970's full-face Motorcycle helmet and has a black plastic visor (Not transparent, but can be worn).
Like something straight out of Omni magazine back in the day.
It wasn't actually for sale, it was part of an exhibition at The Royal Show ground and I literally begged to buy it... Cost me a couple of months salary but no regrets.
Stay safe folks during the madness, and keep up the great work. 🏆🚀
What an incredible story!
Masterful work.
How the hell did I miss Outland all these years?! I really have to correct that!
Warner's blu-ray is quite good. The transfer is stellar and there's a great commentary with Peter Hyams.
Classic get watching, 👍👍
It's an underrated gem. And it's got Sean Connery in it, which is always a plus.
brilliant video ... thank you..x
Thanks for watching!
So nice to hear these gentlemen speak. I grew up reading the big ILM book (the art of special effects) and watching classic sci-fi films endlessly, and I still believe that Return of the Jedi has the best special effects ever made in cinema history. CGI was miraculous in the beginning, but then producers and creatives got spoiled and overused it, transforming every CGI scene into a PlayStation game cut-scene (that's why kids today are totally unimpressed by special effects, for them is just "obvious", which is the opposite of what they're supposed to be)... I believe that the night T-rex attack under the rain in the first Jurassic Park is still the best implementation of CGI ever, mixed with great Stan Winston puppets and Spielberg brilliant direction. Maybe also Mad Max Fury Road or the way Fincher uses it, but the rest of heavy CGI films lost the magic of what special effects really are, in my opinion...
Great little vid with a big insight
Thanks! Many more segments coming up.
"Models were big back then." Well said.
I remember a scene showing a little elevator car that traveled from the refinery down into the mines.
As I recaall, "Outland", which had Sean Connery starring in it, was on the innermost MOON of Jupiter, which is named "Io".
He basically plays the Sheriff in a Western, single-handedly taking on an evil drug cartell who exploits the workers in Io's mining vacility. I love the grimy look and sinister atmosphere of that movie!
@@Charles_Bro-son My dad liked to call it "High Noon" in space
I actually saw this twice on El Rey a few years ago now. What I liked was electronic music heard in the bar with the hologram show.
RIP Mr. Pearson...
I am making a miniature spaceship for a music video. I am considering the painting process as mentioned @15:25 "Zinc Plate Primer". Now, it seems I can't find this particular product; but I have managed to find "Zinc Rich primer". I Would assume this is the same thing, but I leave this to the experts who may know more/ experimented already.
Thank you!
I think Outland was named that because it was the frontier. As in Bad Lands.
I always thought it was a great title myself. I'm glad they didn't go with "Io", even if "10" hadn't been made. Many people have never heard of Io, so that title wouldn't have meant anything to them. "Outland" is far more evocative.
These are all fantastic. Thank you for sharing.
Is there anywhere I can stream the movie?
Cheers.
I am only loading them in segments here on my channel. There is no movie. It will be around 15 to 20 hours of segments when finished. A new segment every week!
kit bashing seems to be one of the main stays of building models for space movies and it goes to show how much fun and creativity goes into building models for movies . and i first seen this movie in a drive in theater and it was just so much darn fun
THanks for sharing
OUTLAND '81 is an great movie.I've saw on VHS video tape in german language and loved that film with these fantastic analoge special-effects.🎥🎞🎬👍👍🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁😂😂
...SHIPS AND FORMS AGAINST THE NORMS...
talented People!
love this
I loved Outland as much as Alien. After the cleanliness of Star Wars it was a revelation to see movies like Outland and Alien that made space look like just another dirty disheveled industrial workplace. I still have two Nostromo crew caps from the back of a magazine and wish I'd bought an Outland federal marshal cap too.
"Polydichloric euthimal! Those stupid bastards are taking polydichloric euthimal!"
I. Love. That. Movie!
If it hasn't been said before, Martin Bower worked hand in glove with Brian Johnson on Space: 1999 before they worked on Alien. All of that exprience shows in Outland.
Yes, I have a video with Martin talking about Space 1999.
Great movie.
I have to get this doc!
I am uploading the entire doc here on my channel. New segment every week!
@@piercefilm You, sirs and/or ma'am...are a hero. ❤️
Peter Hyams never made a "great" film AFAIK, but came close several times, and Outland is one of those times. Beautiful design, photography, performances, music, script. Probably the best film to be influenced by Alien. One thing that breaks it for me is the moment near the end of the film when Sean Connery's character is outside in a spacesuit, and drops a piece of metal -- which falls quite unlike the way it'd fall in a vacuum. If that shot was fixed, it'd raise the whole film for me.
Epic!
beautiful model craft, I wish they had taken more time on lighting/revealing them. The dark close-ups in the intro don't do them justice.
OUTLAND is the indirect sequel to ALIEN. The "company" in Outland is the same one as the Alien one. They just didn't say Weyland-Yutani.
There is a guy who made a kit of the shuttle. Not sure if it's still for sale but it's almost the same size as the filming miniature.
First Men In The Moon ship in the background... awesome!
OUTLAND is more of a sequel to CAPRICORN ONE. the "company" in both films, is Con Amalgamate.
I had a friend in jr high school in his basement, had built a moon base Alpha on a ping pong table. he had it encircled by black drapes, and did supr 8 filming of landings and take offs of eagles. He used a fine sand for the moon surface, and the thinnest fish wire.. had tiny lights on the landing pad.. that was 1976 there abouts. .. and the Corgi die cast metal Eagles from the show Space 1999 were awesome.. fav toy.
"Peter (Hyams) was doing tests on this model and he said "I can't get a depth of field." You know, he was sort of looking for someone to blame while we went away and went home.." Good stuff.
Yeah I love this movie Outland I watched it so many times as a kid growing up on VHS just thought that it was a gritty space movie that didn't have aliens in it
When they painted that big Io city, did they consider a bit of a orange/yellow kinda stain/dusted look especially on upward facing surfaces.
The real moon of Jupiter had continuously erupting volcanoes. No atmosphere, so lots of finely pulverized sulfur dust very slowly rains down on the surface all the time.
"Zinc Plate® Ultra II PCP provides heat resistance up to 1472°F (800°C), excellent welding properties" I see now why they liked this stuff, lol The crazy heat from some of the lights they used back then would be no match!
I've worked for these types of producers. It is really sad they don't have any cares to give for things that aren't sniffable.
I’d hire these guys today in a NY minute, over full team of CGI compositors any day. Listen to that commitment from them. You’re not going to get that from some kid on a keyboard working an algorithm in post production. This is why Blade Runner, Alien, Space 99, Blake 7 all looked so magnificent. Such incredible detail.
Is that the sphere from First Men in the Moon behind him?
A replica, yes.
@@piercefilm ok if that was the original I'd be dumbfounded it had survived!
What happened to the greenhouse? Did Martin mean it had been smashed, or had it been deliberately pulled apart? I don't understand what that had to do with Hyams respraying the models.
I believe it had to do with the clear green plastic window portion that wasn't to be painted, so the models had to be taken apart to paint the back and sides white.
@@piercefilm Ah, okay. I didn't really think it had been destroyed, but I wasn't sure. Thanks for the response!
Great stuff. But the audio has some thuds and bangs on it that made me think I had an issue with my TV and scared the cats!
Better to watch it on a computer. These videos aren't designed or budgeted for TV.
Those models from that era still look more believable than anything CGI today. When they had the time and budget to do it right.
Not that I'm totally anti-CGI. You can do things with CGI you can't with those practical effects. It's just too band they've practically abandoned this approach.
You'd be surprised how often practical models are still used. Bladerunner 2049, for example, had quite a few miniature shots.
Thats real film making
I’m interested in the reflection of the female model on his display cabinet 😊
I think he sold that. You'd have to check his Facebook page.
Amazing models. That story of the studio messing with the models at the end is infuriating though. Glad they were paid but I could totally understand the frustration of months of careful work being literally shit on.
The thumbnail looks like a picture Harvey Keitel and an older bother taken in the 70s
A fun thing is that the shuttle looks like the Mars rover sky crane.
8:43 Calendar on the wall.....
Is this Outland movie starred Sean Connery?
Yes. 1981
Just watched a video the other day about connections between ''Alien'' and ''Outland''.
im sad to say i dont think i have watched outland, is it a good movie?
One of the best looking bluray remasters I've seen, definitely get that over the standard def version. The movie itself is good if you like crime-suspense stories, or kind of like the "High Noon" western in space, one cop vs a bunch of corrupt criminals. It very much feels like the same future as Alien, Blade Runner, Total Recall, etc. but just with human-only characters.
@@blackcatgraphics1483 thanks for your reply I will most definitely have a look for the blu Ray version. The above movies u mentioned are some of my favourite movies ever I will look forward to watching it.
Bill, it wasn't "Bauer Haus" it was Bau Haus.
I'm sure he knew that it was actually Bauhaus. Say Bauhaus and Bower House run together, especially in a laconic Scottish accent, and they will sound virtually the same. I suspect that he was enunciating Bower House more clearly than most people would to make the point.