I’ve been using this method for decades, to get rife scope close at 25 yards, so it will then hit paper at 100 and if it’s way off at 100, I watch the crosshairs move to the bullet hole while adjusting, saves a lot of ammo…… Excellent job showing the process for sighting in a scope.
Recently got a Fatal x as a gift -my first crossbow- I used this method and it was amazing. I anchored my crossbow in my lead sled, did my adjustments after the first shot and the second shot was dead on! It started my crossbow hunting journey in an extremely positive! Thank you🙏
Thanks for the demo! I used this method today! Picked up a used Lead Sled off marketplace and zip tied my bow tight to it. It's probably the most accurate my bow has ever been.
Great info video!! I've used that method on all my scopes for years. People look at me, and are sceptical when I say I can sight their scope in so quickly. Thanks
I've got the Killer Instinct with the speed ring on my Barnett TS390 and I love it. I bought a BOG Tripod for Coyote hunting. I used it when checking my zero and it worked great when everything was tightened down. I'll stay with it instead of a gun vise so I don't have to carry a seat and table for it. Thanks for a great video.
Been doing this for years with both crossbows and Rifles. With non speed adjustable scopes usually the reticles are in 10 yard increments but that’s only for a certain weight arrow shooting at a certain speed. A lot of times people get lucky where they all fall into place at 10 yard increments. And other times they don’t. That’s why I only use scopes with adjustable speed rings on my crossbows or I will use a single crosshair with an illuminated dot in the middle with an HHA Crossbow Speed Dial.
Good comment I just use a vortex strike fire 2 red dot for hunting. All my shots will be 25yrds and under. I set up my stands that way. Basically it’s a single pin, nothing confusing,no magnification set up. Like my vertical bow was-single pin- 25yrds and under it’s deadly accurate!
Love this meat and potato explanation.. in my 60s and fairly new to crossbows. Guns compounds way different. You definitely could teach those who would listen and harvest ethnically. Cheers keep teaching. Hunting outdoors is my church 👍
Great video Matt! I've heard that gunsmiths have been using this technique to sight in rifles for years now. And it works great. Next year when my budget improves I need to get a set of those Phoenix Sirrus bolts. Hope you're Lyme's treatments are going well!
Thanks, Ron! Feeling back to normal. I know many have success with this sight in method, hoping a few more people try it. And if you buy some Phoenix arrows you won’t be disappointed 😉
I use a Lazer boresighter in a bolt that doesn't have a end in it and side it under the string until it clicks the safety on my lead sled and it does pretty good. I just did my Boss 405 in 4 shots . I just have to find tune it. And now I guess I need to nock tune also thanks to you lol
can also calibrate speed rings in 1 shot. once your center crosshair is sighted in, put the target 20 yds farther and put a sticker very high on the target so you can aim with center dot on that high sticker but the real distance dot is on the target still. then shoot aiming center on the high sticker. then just turn the speed ring till center is on sticker and real distance dot is on the arrow at the same time. this one doesnt need leadsled or anything all that matters is the space between the sticker and the arrow which isnt effected by the bow moving
I'm glad you can sight in the Vital X. The one I had threw arrows everywhere. This crossbow is very picky on what arrows you use. Buy the Swat X1 instead
If there is some way to hold the bow still ( with small bungees maybe?) …..Will something like a Bog field pod that holds both the butt stock and forgrip of the bow work? I’m trying to eliminate bringing the table, sandbags and all the other stuff for sighting in out to my target. I was thinking of getting the Bog Pod but was looking for something lighter to carry…so after seeing your video I’m glad I held off. My Dad use to sight in our rifles this way. My job was to turn the turrets as he held the gun on the sandbags and watched through the scope. Thanks for the great video.
Yeah,that’s what many of us do with rifles and crossbows. That’s just an in for my question-….watching you and the fairies,haha videos what would all of you consider a very fast heavy “short 470gr 18 inch arrow at about 470fps” an adult arrow?. R500 new “Gas”string and cables,cut down stock arrows ,paper tuned and now waiting for my Magnus killer bee heads to arrive. With my build system I will have about 20% F.O.C. Should I pursue this or not even try?!?! Any advice from anyone would be appreciated
My personal opinion is this. Yeah you will pass through with this no matter what you hit. You got a very powerful weapon though that is going to leave a tremendous amount of unspent energy going back into the bow. This is going to cause problems its just a matter of when. You can up that weight so much more absorbing more energy into the projectile doing more overall. I would slow that sucker down to a 350 fps or so and not care about the heads lol. Seriously thats what i would do. Now you can even shoot it too because less energy is going back causing damage.
@@chrisruzsa2798 Thanks for the response! I have been shooting a bow ever since I made my first one in 1971 out of a willow branch. Never was a big fan of x-bows for hunting but after surgery on both shoulders my compound became “wall art “ Decided to go all out on the x-bows and unfortunately mechanical heads. Chose the 150 Swhacker mainly because it gets inside before opening. At 56yrs old now I want to get back to fixed cut on contact heads! Watching all these videos and tv show with basically 0 pass throughs was killing me!! I was shooting a 27 draw length 68lb single cam for the last upteen years and never did not get a pass through-125gr fixed head. Yes I always touched up the blades. I’m just sickened by the deers reaction to the “wack”! With fixed heads most deer leaped 2-3 times and just looked around for a little bit,then tipped over dead. Not a clue that they were shot. To me that’s the most humane way to hunt deer!! Thanks again for your reply- good luck this year! Mike
@@MichaelLakota-vc4tk a lot of this is improper setups. I use an 200 lb excalibur eclipse xt My manufacturer says 350 graims okay to use through serious testing with all shafts and bolts various targets ect ect ect i will tell you with full confidence there is no way crossbows are okay shooting light arrows. I can’t go less than 500 grains i am at 565 with 16% or so of foc with swahackers i will pass through any and every animal i hunt. Not worried. Both have their ups and down sides unfortunately the debate is very backwards you want light and fast you need fixed you go heavy you can have bigger cuts this is because momentum is sucked up on opening of mechanicals. Fixed is already deployed they do not need more momentum. I love all archery and got into crossbows because i thought it would be easier and i didn’t want a shop again to work on things unfortunately that was not the case and now i have more jigs and crap for my crossbow than i ever did for vertical.
@@chrisruzsa2798 I hear you bud! lol my place is swamped with all kinds of stuff also. As far as arrow weight goes I’m already 70gr heavier than the factory ones. I’m just trying to add more weight to soak up some energy and slow it down so I can use fixed heads. Them swhackers are crazy powerful. I have blown through both shoulders of a big 10point and the arrow was buried a good 6 inches in the ground 10yards past the deer! He literally just dropped dead. It was only a 23yrd shot. I just don’t like the fierce nature and destruction of mechanicals I miss the sweet slip through the animal where it is more on edge from the sound of the bow and hasn’t even a clue that a cut on contact head just slipped right through it and he’s standing there looking around not even knowing he’s already dead. Plus I do love tinkering. If it’s not broke I want to make it better. lol it’s a cruel joke that has cursed me my whole life lol
@@MichaelLakota-vc4tk yeah man these things are not toys umm there is always good fixed heads to get for sure but i don’t know what would be the best to slow these down and you may always risk losing bolts because of the power that they generate. I really wish i could help you on this but I am not sure i can. I wish you luck though and happy hunting.
Zeroed after 1 shot, 2nd shot to confirm ;) And yes you are right, as you extend range you're going to want to check other points of impact. With that said, this is an easy way to shoot 1 arrow and dial in your scope from that 1 arrow.
I think grouping has its place not all arrows fly the same and so it is important to sight in for the group. I do not think the 1 shot method is great especially for hunting animals, animals deserve the best we can do. Just my opinion. However much easier without the speed ring but i think more than 1 is necessary. Good video none the less.
More than one shot is necessary to verify all your effective shooting distances, absolutely. But, the majority of your scope adjustments can be done based off one shot.
The synthetic rail wraps extremely easy, and it gets worse the hotter it is. Mine would not sight in after only a few months of ownership. I sent it in for warranty work, and was sent a Rapid 420 in it's place. Long and heavy, but much more accurate
I’ve been using this method for decades, to get rife scope close at 25 yards, so it will then hit paper at 100 and if it’s way off at 100, I watch the crosshairs move to the bullet hole while adjusting, saves a lot of ammo…… Excellent job showing the process for sighting in a scope.
Thanks, Frank! Definitely a time saver!
I used this method with a simple TV dinner table, a rifle rest, and a ratchet strap, got sighted in at 20,30,and 40 yards with 5 bolts, great video.
Love it! Great idea 👍👍
Recently got a Fatal x as a gift -my first crossbow- I used this method and it was amazing. I anchored my crossbow in my lead sled, did my adjustments after the first shot and the second shot was dead on! It started my crossbow hunting journey in an extremely positive! Thank you🙏
Excellent!! Glad this helped you out!
Thanks for the demo! I used this method today! Picked up a used Lead Sled off marketplace and zip tied my bow tight to it. It's probably the most accurate my bow has ever been.
Love it!! Glad this helped. Good luck in the woods!
Great info video!! I've used that method on all my scopes for years. People look at me, and are sceptical when I say I can sight their scope in so quickly. Thanks
Excellent! Glad you’re experience is the same as mine!
Man I wish I would’ve known this it would have saved me a lot of frustration. Thank uou
Welcome! See if it saves ya some time next sight in!
I've got the Killer Instinct with the speed ring on my Barnett TS390 and I love it. I bought a BOG Tripod for Coyote hunting. I used it when checking my zero and it worked great when everything was tightened down. I'll stay with it instead of a gun vise so I don't have to carry a seat and table for it. Thanks for a great video.
Some like a $$ setup!! Good luck this season, Jerry!
@@draggindeeroutdoors good luck to you as well.
Awesome video Matt. Been using this method for a while.
Thanks, James! It works like a charm 👌
Awesome thanks for reminding me of this way to sight in
You’re welcome! Good luck with your Vital X!
Been doing this for years with both crossbows and Rifles.
With non speed adjustable scopes usually the reticles are in 10 yard increments but that’s only for a certain weight arrow shooting at a certain speed. A lot of times people get lucky where they all fall into place at 10 yard increments.
And other times they don’t. That’s why I only use scopes with adjustable speed rings on my crossbows or I will use a single crosshair with an illuminated dot in the middle with an HHA Crossbow Speed Dial.
Awesome Charles! Good luck this season!
Good comment
I just use a vortex strike fire 2 red dot for hunting. All my shots will be 25yrds and under. I set up my stands that way. Basically it’s a single pin, nothing confusing,no magnification set up. Like my vertical bow was-single pin- 25yrds and under it’s deadly accurate!
Love this meat and potato explanation.. in my 60s and fairly new to crossbows. Guns compounds way different. You definitely could teach those who would listen and harvest ethnically. Cheers keep teaching. Hunting outdoors is my church 👍
Glad you enjoyed the video!
I'm waiting for my ordered Vital X in about days. I plan on changing the scope and make the same adjustments.
Excellent! Good luck!
How you like your viral x I just bought one
@@stevenhicks815 The Vital X is great, the scope is elementary, but the ergonomy is imho superior to other models.
Great idea for sighting
Works like a charm!
thats a cool bow man
Thank you!!
Great video Matt! I've heard that gunsmiths have been using this technique to sight in rifles for years now. And it works great. Next year when my budget improves I need to get a set of those Phoenix Sirrus bolts. Hope you're Lyme's treatments are going well!
Thanks, Ron! Feeling back to normal. I know many have success with this sight in method, hoping a few more people try it. And if you buy some Phoenix arrows you won’t be disappointed 😉
I could've one of those rests yesterday. Just bought a new and first crossbow this week.
Welcome to the crossbow world! Hope you’re enjoying it so far
@draggindeeroutdoors yes I am and I'm chomping at the bit to get out and hunt with it.
Process works
Absolutely!
I use a Lazer boresighter in a bolt that doesn't have a end in it and side it under the string until it clicks the safety on my lead sled and it does pretty good. I just did my Boss 405 in 4 shots . I just have to find tune it.
And now I guess I need to nock tune also thanks to you lol
That’s a great way to get dialed in fast as well! Thanks for sharing.
I got a speed ring and i like it, trying to put it to good use but the right deer ain't came yet!
Good luck out there!
@@draggindeeroutdoors thank you, my 160 8 point daylighted this morning at 706-719 am and I was at work! Uuggg!
This is exactly how I sight in any of my weapons whether bow, black powder or Cartridge.
Certainly makes life easier!
can also calibrate speed rings in 1 shot. once your center crosshair is sighted in, put the target 20 yds farther and put a sticker very high on the target so you can aim with center dot on that high sticker but the real distance dot is on the target still. then shoot aiming center on the high sticker. then just turn the speed ring till center is on sticker and real distance dot is on the arrow at the same time.
this one doesnt need leadsled or anything all that matters is the space between the sticker and the arrow which isnt effected by the bow moving
👍👍
Great tutorial thank you
You’re welcome, thank YOU!
Thanks. Simple and easy to do, if you have a tripod ;). Easy to follow along and makes a lot of sense!
Thanks you!
Virgin crossbow user here. Love your video. I will get back with you once I have tried your tutorial. Keep up the good work. Liked & Subscribed👋👋👋👋👋😎
Sounds good, reach out if you need anything!
Huge help. Awesome video thank you 🙏
You’re welcome!!
I'm glad you can sight in the Vital X. The one I had threw arrows everywhere. This crossbow is very picky on what arrows you use. Buy the Swat X1 instead
What arrows have you tried so far?
Mine would not shoot good either. KI sent me a Rapid 420 instead. It's long and heavy, but it sure is accurate with it's aluminum rail
What do you need to do if you have to Recite after every couple shots
I’d check to make sure all your scope mounting bolts are tight.
Thank you man
You’re welcome!
If there is some way to hold the bow still ( with small bungees maybe?) …..Will something like a Bog field pod that holds both the butt stock and forgrip of the bow work? I’m trying to eliminate bringing the table, sandbags and all the other stuff for sighting in out to my target. I was thinking of getting the Bog Pod but was looking for something lighter to carry…so after seeing your video I’m glad I held off. My Dad use to sight in our rifles this way. My job was to turn the turrets as he held the gun on the sandbags and watched through the scope. Thanks for the great video.
I’m sure there’s a way to hold bow with some simple items…exactly how to do it I don’t know. Little trial and error.
Great tutorial!
Thank you!
where can i get one oif those crossbow holders ?
Bog Deathgrip Tripod. There is a link in the video description.
Mike again, all my shots will be under 30yrds. That’s just how I roll
👌👌
Me to brother. Under 30 yrds.
Thank you ... For this video and your time and Info and God Bless you ,.. Amen
You’re very welcome!
On the serious bolts what gpi do you put!?
I shoot 9.6 GPI
@@draggindeeroutdoors thanks!
Great info
Thank you 👍
Yeah,that’s what many of us do with rifles and crossbows. That’s just an in for my question-….watching you and the fairies,haha videos what would all of you consider a very fast heavy “short 470gr 18 inch arrow at about 470fps” an adult arrow?.
R500 new “Gas”string and cables,cut down stock arrows ,paper tuned and now waiting for my Magnus killer bee heads to arrive. With my build system I will have about 20% F.O.C. Should I pursue this or not even try?!?! Any advice from anyone would be appreciated
My personal opinion is this. Yeah you will pass through with this no matter what you hit.
You got a very powerful weapon though that is going to leave a tremendous amount of unspent energy going back into the bow.
This is going to cause problems its just a matter of when. You can up that weight so much more absorbing more energy into the projectile doing more overall.
I would slow that sucker down to a 350 fps or so and not care about the heads lol. Seriously thats what i would do. Now you can even shoot it too because less energy is going back causing damage.
@@chrisruzsa2798
Thanks for the response! I have been shooting a bow ever since I made my first one in 1971 out of a willow branch. Never was a big fan of x-bows for hunting but after surgery on both shoulders my compound became “wall art “
Decided to go all out on the x-bows and unfortunately mechanical heads. Chose the 150 Swhacker mainly because it gets inside before opening. At 56yrs old now I want to get back to fixed cut on contact heads! Watching all these videos and tv show with basically 0 pass throughs was killing me!! I was shooting a 27 draw length 68lb single cam for the last upteen years and never did not get a pass through-125gr fixed head. Yes I always touched up the blades. I’m just sickened by the deers reaction to the “wack”! With fixed heads most deer leaped 2-3 times and just looked around for a little bit,then tipped over dead. Not a clue that they were shot. To me that’s the most humane way to hunt deer!! Thanks again for your reply- good luck this year!
Mike
@@MichaelLakota-vc4tk a lot of this is improper setups.
I use an 200 lb excalibur eclipse xt
My manufacturer says 350 graims okay to use through serious testing with all shafts and bolts various targets ect ect ect i will tell you with full confidence there is no way crossbows are okay shooting light arrows. I can’t go less than 500 grains i am at 565 with 16% or so of foc with swahackers i will pass through any and every animal i hunt.
Not worried.
Both have their ups and down sides unfortunately the debate is very backwards you want light and fast you need fixed you go heavy you can have bigger cuts this is because momentum is sucked up on opening of mechanicals.
Fixed is already deployed they do not need more momentum.
I love all archery and got into crossbows because i thought it would be easier and i didn’t want a shop again to work on things unfortunately that was not the case and now i have more jigs and crap for my crossbow than i ever did for vertical.
@@chrisruzsa2798 I hear you bud! lol my place is swamped with all kinds of stuff also. As far as arrow weight goes I’m already 70gr heavier than the factory ones. I’m just trying to add more weight to soak up some energy and slow it down so I can use fixed heads. Them swhackers are crazy powerful. I have blown through both shoulders of a big 10point and the arrow was buried a good 6 inches in the ground 10yards past the deer! He literally just dropped dead. It was only a 23yrd shot. I just don’t like the fierce nature and destruction of mechanicals I miss the sweet slip through the animal where it is more on edge from the sound of the bow and hasn’t even a clue that a cut on contact head just slipped right through it and he’s standing there looking around not even knowing he’s already dead. Plus I do love tinkering. If it’s not broke I want to make it better. lol it’s a cruel joke that has cursed me my whole life lol
@@MichaelLakota-vc4tk yeah man these things are not toys umm there is always good fixed heads to get for sure but i don’t know what would be the best to slow these down and you may always risk losing bolts because of the power that they generate. I really wish i could help you on this but I am not sure i can. I wish you luck though and happy hunting.
That’s a great method and it works. But that’s more than one shot. You want to shoot till you are sure.
Zeroed after 1 shot, 2nd shot to confirm ;) And yes you are right, as you extend range you're going to want to check other points of impact. With that said, this is an easy way to shoot 1 arrow and dial in your scope from that 1 arrow.
Your Instagram account link doesn’t lead to you iG account.
Thank you, I’ll fix that!
WHY DO YOU NOT PUT A LASER ON THE CROSSBOW AND AME AT WHERE THE ARROW WENT AND THEN ADJUST THE SCOPE TO THE LASER______AND ITS DEAD ON
That would work! I just don't have a laser for my crossbow
I think grouping has its place not all arrows fly the same and so it is important to sight in for the group. I do not think the 1 shot method is great especially for hunting animals, animals deserve the best we can do. Just my opinion. However much easier without the speed ring but i think more than 1 is necessary.
Good video none the less.
More than one shot is necessary to verify all your effective shooting distances, absolutely. But, the majority of your scope adjustments can be done based off one shot.
@@draggindeeroutdoors yeah that absolutely can be done indeed. 💯.
Chase the arrow
Garbage crossbow
Care to elaborate?
The synthetic rail wraps extremely easy, and it gets worse the hotter it is. Mine would not sight in after only a few months of ownership. I sent it in for warranty work, and was sent a Rapid 420 in it's place. Long and heavy, but much more accurate