Grim Dawn - Damage Introduced And Explained - New Player Guide - v1.1.9.3
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
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2:04 Basic (flat) weapon damage and how it scales with cunning or spirit
3:19 Using character panel tabs to see damage information
7:41 How gear with damage buffs will increase (or not) weapon damage
8:34 Gear items with damage skills that activate 'on attack'
11:03 Weapons that deal more than one damage type
17:24 Skills that include weapon damage, and skills that do not
29:44 Finding appropriate damage buffs on the Devotion screen
32:25 Retaliation damage - quick overview
37:52 Damage conversion - how it can cause you problems in early game
43:46 Damage conversion - example of 100% damage conversion on a skill node
49:15 Damage conversion - example of extreme damage conversion using items
56:37 Extreme damage conversion character versus Lokarr
57:35 Attack damage converted to health - quick overview
2 years later, after playing Grim Dawn off and on I finally decided to look into damage types and how the hell they work lol. This video was absolutely perfect. At first I didn't want to watch a video that was an hour long BUT I'm so glad I did. Within the first few minutes I knew this was going to be extremely valuable. I've made so many mistakes that I was unaware of until I watched this video. Some I guess I can just respec and fix but others may as well be delete and restart the characters all together. Any old way, thank you so much for putting the time and effort into this video because you've just given me so much usable information to make my time in Grim Dawn so much more rewarding and fun.
Thanks for the comment, it’s much appreciated, always good to hear this older stuff is useful. The video feels a bit slow and clunky to me now; I actually did a more recent damage video that’s much shorter if you want to take a look at it - ua-cam.com/video/GqogP7ZJiKM/v-deo.html
I’ve just massively boosted my damage finally understanding conversions. Thank you for pumping out gems of knowledge for us beginners
Thanks for the comment. Damage conversion is one of the features of this game where understanding the basics can massively improve your damage output, and not understanding the basics can completely mess your damage up and potentially wreck your enjoyment of the game without you ever knowing how/why this is happening.
Glad this video was helpful for you.
This video goes into more detail about the different ways of using damage conversions for specific builds: ua-cam.com/video/ctj6K9_v6dA/v-deo.html
Juat started playing the game and I've been binging all your guides like a crack addict. Really great stuff!
Remember, you can stop watching any time. It’s NOT an addiction. Just say no 😂
But seriously … massive thanks for the comment and the support, it’s much appreciated.
Great video man. This game is as complicated as Path of Exile when it comes to damage calculation and to know which skills affects which other skills and how lol. Still couldn't figure everything out that's related to damage after 450 hours into the game lol. The issue is that the developers didn't care much to explain how the damage works in this game. However I prefer this a thousand time over oversimplified arp games like diablo 3 which makes them boring to play cause there is zero depth into it.
Cheers for the comment, it’s much appreciated 👊🙂
And here I am watching your "Damage for Dummies" video for at LEAST the 5th time, though I probably didn't respond some of the other times!!! I've got my pure soldier build up level 60 and 25,XXX damage using CADENCE and going for primarily PHYSICAL damage, but I'm just now realizing that I need to be adding in BASE damage of other damage types because PHYSICAL damage ONLY comes from the weapon!!! My other types of damage under the PHYSICAL tab are fairly decent, though PHYSICAL DAMAGE itself is over %1000, and I have VITALITY and CHAOS buffed to over %100. I also got a HELL of a surprise yesterday when I got notification that I'd FINISHED THE GAME!!! I was NOT expecting that!!!! Anyway, I've got to head off to work. Later.
You deserve more views, awesome guides and videos
Thank you! I appreciate every view and comment I get. Glad you like my stuff 👍
He deserves more subs too. A lot more.
Definitely one of the better break down videos that I've seen. So many were either hard to understand or read off like it was a powerpoint script. You covered the what, the how and the how to duplicate for self teaching. I've struggled with understanding some of these points despite my many hours in the game. Thank you sir!
Thanks! That was my aim, glad to hear I was successful! I went back to what confused ME when I started playing, which was very basic stuff. Once you understand how the basic damage mechanics work, it is so much easier to figure out the more advanced concepts. Thanks for watching and commenting, it’s much appreciated.
love this, thank you! returning casual player, I felt lost starting playing again , this helps alot!
I’m really glad this content is useful, and you’re taking the time to comment and let me know - it’s much appreciated, thank you!
I've only just started playing but this video has massively helped me out!
Good to hear this stuff is still useful, thanks for the comment 👊🙂
Wanted to revisit this video after a while. Thanks for still making videos after all this time! One of my favorite people
Aw thanks! Maybe I should progress with my life and play Hogwarts 👊🙂
Man, this is helpful! Thx so much!
Thanks for the view and the comment - great to hear you’re finding this useful.
I just watched the whole thing straight through. Maybe need to watch again and take notes. About to start a new character and try different items as I build her up. Thanks.
Thanks for the comment, it’s much appreciated as always. Good luck maxing that damage 👊🙂
Man i love these 1 hour long videos of yours :D
They get shorter, I promise. Not necessarily better, but shorter 👊🙂
@@Arcadelife1 to be honest i much prefer longer videos, as they usually explain stuff better and I won't lie i kinda use them as background sound (at least on second rewatch :D )
@@botronas6039 Honoured to be your background sound 👊🥳
Thank you, sometimes I need things explained to me like I'm 5.
Yeah, that was my default mental age for the first hundred hours in grim dawn.
Thanks for the view and the comment 👊🙂
@@Arcadelife1 No problem! Do you stream the game?
@@jeremyroberge1570 Not yet; it’s something I keep thinking I should do. I have done Grim Dawn multiplayer streams hosted by @BAAMGames - got a few videos linked from my channel and his stuff for GD is well worth checking out.
Wow this game just got way more in-depth
Have finished a second complete viewing. It clearly explains why my handful of characters burn out by level 80--if I'm lucky to progress that far. It's like drinking from the fire hose, lol. AL, many thanks for taking to time to try and educate idiots such as I!
Thanks for your support - if this stuff has been even slightly helpful then that's great to hear.
And here I am a year later for a refresher.
Good man!
Well this is just phenomenal! You literally have the best GD content. Super happy I found your channel. Idk if you touched on this and I missed it, but is there any effect to having >100% damage conversion? Like, if I have 120% conversion, is that stronger than 100%? Or are they the same and anything >100% is wasted? Or are there enemy debuffs that can reduce conversion, so extra conversion can be useful?
Thanks for the comment, it’s much appreciated.
Exceeding 100% conversion doesn’t increase the damage (or have any other weird side-effect). However, if you’re converting more than one damage type the maths providing your end result will get a little complicated. As with every attack skill, put it on left or right mouse button (temporarily if you like) and look at the damage breakdown on character tab 2 for the mouse-button skill. Do not look at the values on the skill screen or by hovering over the skill bar because those values do not factor in conversion correctly (or at all in many cases). Enemy debuffs don’t affect conversion.
@@Arcadelife1 cool. Weird that some things can drop with >100%. According to grim tools at least I think.
@@BarbeqdBrwniez If you deal 2000 fire damage and you have gear converting 200% fire damage to lightning, you will have 2000 lightning damage.
If you deal 2000 fire damage and you have gear with 100% fire converted to acid and 200% fire converted to lightning, you will end up with 1500 lightning damage and 500 acid damage. If my maths is correct.
@@Arcadelife1 oh! Now that is very interesting!
Very informative video, however I have one question, i have the ultos axe that converts 40 %0weapon damage to lightning damage, how does it going ti afffect my lifesteal, like if I have 100 weapon damage only 60 will remain after conversion and this will be taken into account? Or some other mechanics is involved
The basic damage-converted-to-health in this game is based on ‘weapon damage’, so any damage done by your weapon or by skills that incorporate weapon damage. The type of damage is not important, although you don’t get life steal from damage-over-time, so you would get life steal from acid damage but not poison, for example.
what mod are you running that alters the color of affixes on gear?
It’s a text file. If you go to this link (on official Crate Entertainment forum) you can get it, or get the executable to generate your own customised version. forums.crateentertainment.com/t/tool-rainbow-filter-item-highlighting/42765
@@Arcadelife1 is there a combat tracker or log? The this about this game I hate the most is not knowing how something just smoked me it half a second.
There is also psychological damage dealt to the plaher trying to memorize all this 😆
What mod do you use to have the colour coded item attributes?
Rainbow item filter - the only mod I use - fully explained in this video ua-cam.com/video/Lq6sLDytFvE/v-deo.htmlsi=Vq1KiqvelsrEc7Ge
57:00 how do you toggle all those auras on without having them on your skillbar? 😅
There’s a second skillbar. I keep toggles on that so they can be turned on then I switch back to the main skillbar which has the active skills on it.
Have a look at (14 minutes 23 seconds) this video and you can see I swap to 2nd skill bar to turn an aura skill on - ua-cam.com/video/98aFAHUksH8/v-deo.html
@@Arcadelife1 thanks, I gotta start using this!
Was also wondering, any insights on what to put on secondary weapons?
I tried a summoning weapon set but the summons disappear when you swap to your other set. So now I’m not sure what to use it for 😅
@@Steph1 I recommend not using the 2nd weapon slot. Pretend it’s not there. The game is complicated enough already 👊😜
I just want to know the order in which modifiers take place ex, armor , class, weapon ect. Like if I have a class thing that make physical damage into electrical damage and a weapon that turns elemental damage into physical damage... how does that work. I dont want to sit through this video to find it so... if you give me a time stamp where it says that or you explain it to me now or tell me where to look it up I will subscribe to your channel.
Yes, damage conversion is another complex aspect of this game. Here’s a video about damage conversion - ua-cam.com/video/ctj6K9_v6dA/v-deo.html
The way this game does damage is soo stupid
If I publish a book called ‘Grim Dawn - Damage for Dummies’, can I use that comment as the big quote on the back cover, please?
@@Arcadelife1 sure! I mean, you do need facts right?
That's what I don't like about this game. The mechanics are too complicated for something so simple. The balance is terrible, the choice of element is a joke, the geometry and timing of damage is the same for all skills. Direct, radius from the player, radius from a point. Diablo had it quite clear. You never had to ask "how does it work?" And Diablo had a ladder of difficulty. GD's dynamic levels of monsters make all the leveling system pointless. You're never stronger, nothing changes as you progress. You're on an infinite treadmill that matches your speed. In D2 it was "how far can I get?". In D3 you know what T you're at, you know how good you perform and you decide when to move on. In GD you actually degrade each level. Monsters become stronger, you become a little stronger. If you forever stay at one level, you'll end the game no problem. I'm sure it's possible to beat the whole thing as lvl 1 with no masteries, just gears. A hobo speedrun. So all this complexity becomes a parody to actually good games like Diablo, Nox, Fallout or PoE.
Not to offend the guide, I'm sure it has all the info. I'll listen when I get that much free time.
Thanks for the comment, that’s all valid opinion and I absolutely agree about basic game elements being way too complex. However, the divisive nature of the game’s complexity is part of its charm 😂 - many players love the game because of the absurd complexity and others (occasionally me) get exasperated when something like ‘damage’ takes an hour to explain, and even then there’s missing information or mistakes or contradictions in the info provided.
@@Arcadelife1 Sorry for venting. =) I'm spoiled by D3. They did everything right. As much as people complain about it, it's nearly perfect. With all the variety of playstyles and the difficulty ladder and replayability... I always knew what each leg is for, what a set does etc. In GD I spend my time looking carefully at the items I got last 5 min trying to compare and figure out what's better. Even with rainbow mod, it takes too long to understand what matters and what I need. Sorting junk is pretty much all the gameplay. Getting junk notes, which are considered the worst way of storytelling by most gamers, trying to figure out if any of this fanatical nonsense has any useful info... Digging through the skill trees, trying to understand what should I focus on and what is junk... Sorting, sorting, sorting. Not thinking, but sorting. Because the complexity and junk info makes it impossible to fit into one head to think through. Maybe if I played for years I could see the whole picture but then I'd have to tolerate this hell for years. What's the goal? None. No achievements that would seem sweet, no wish to continue this nevereending race of leveling up vs the monsters who are a carrot-on-string, always 2 levels ahead of you... Which is pity because mostly the game could be likable. It could be a masterpiece. But even with mods I failed to make it shine. Mostly mods offer faster leveling and that's where you see that level affects literally nothing. You could get all 100 levels from the first zombie and it would change nothing about the gameplay. You could get all the items for your IA and it would not change a thing. Sets in D3 change the whole gameplay, sets in GD give you 1 extra level to all skills... Sigh.
Sorry. Not your fault, definitely. Thanks for answering. You rock. =)
Sure Grim Dawn is complicated but the problem with Diablo 3 is that it is so simple that it is boring again. The big problem with Grim Dawn is that how damage works is nowhere explained you have to figure it out all on your own.
@@Afura33 It takes years of living in D3 to get bored of it. It takes a few hours to try all Grim Dawn classes to see they are born boring. The game is afraid of letting you have fun. Can't move faster, can't hit everyone on the screen, can't charge huge damage... It's all mediated DPS, almost as if the game gave me no controls at all. My actions don't matter. I hold LMB and watch foes die. No matter what class I choose, there are no wrong actions. Foes die. I use basic attack - they die. I use aoe - they die just as fast. I use passive - they still die at the same speed. I use ultimate - they die as fast as if it was a passive. It's not a problem of not understanding damage. It's the problem of everything being irrelevant. As if my skill tree was in a different program and I was watching a "let's play", not affecting the video with my choice of skills\stats at all. That never happened in D3. I choose what class to play. Burn enemies with a beam, or slash point blank, or be a swirling death moving at high speed, or cause chain reactions, or jump from foe to foe, or throw something... Huge variety of skills, all different. Nobody tried to make them equal. Devs made the balance by analyzing the outcome. The speed of rifts in general. You may move slowly but you will deal great single damage, pushing through the bosses. Or you may run like crazy, but stop at every boss for a minute since you lack focused damage. So many builds to try and they change every season. In GD even the mod that adds 40 new classes feels bland. Same old shit, new cover.
GD is needlessly complicated. It would be awesome if it was deep. But it's not, it's just annoying. Annoying adaptive system that makes my growth pointless, annoying flood of bonuses I have to keep in mind to know what item would be better. Annoying boss battles where nothing relies on me, since if I lack this mediated rating I lose no matter what I do. There's no tactic, only holding LMB and praying my heals are enough. Annoying forcing of tank play, I can't use the strength of a ranger class since all enemies simply teleport to me and start a melee combat. Then why did you even make the difference?! Make ALL fights melee, I don't mind. Just don't tell me I can be a gunslinger and then, surprise, "you can't shoot from afar, you have to DD point blank where all the damage is dealt". Guess what! I pick a ranger class to stay away from danger! I'm new! I need safety! Why does the game deny me that choice?! Why did you let me choose then? Literally no difference between all the play styles. And I tried it all. A mage, an inquisitor, a night blade, a warrior, a holy shield, a summoner, a demoman... That never happened in D3. I always knew what class I was. What build I was. GD is "press buttons - mobs will die". Any buttons, any mobs. Yuck.
How the fuck are you just face taking him.. this game is passing me off so fcking much
It's a strange build based on extreme damage conversion using multiple gear items that convert other damage types to Vitality damage. I suppose if you skip to the timestamp of the Lokarr fight and watch it without the context of the damage conversion explanation it can seem a little bit crazy. The build is fairly easy to replicate, just needs some target farming of specific enemies to get the gear items.
Have a read of the description in this linked vid - explains where all the gear coms from in detail: ua-cam.com/video/wPBgMwrlikk/v-deo.html
@@Arcadelife1 I understand what you did and the gear but the dude has a 90% life leech resistance and I'm pretty sure his vit resist is the same. I watched your life bar and he was doing very little damage to you.
I'd like to know why.
@@fauckcryptic3977 The combination of Inquisitor Seal (Elemental damage resist), overcapped fire & lightning resistances, Mark of Torment, Ill Omen, and a bunch of devotions with attack damage converted to health - so I'm constantly healing whatever damage he manages to do to me. That's pretty much how it works; OA and DA are both 'low' by most people's standards.
@@Arcadelife1 ah bullshit. I have that stupid seal and all this life steel too and I'm getting smoked it one faking hit. I'm bout to quit faking playing it because it's doing noting but making me angry
@@fauckcryptic3977 I feel overwhelmed with a need to help. First of all, if your build isn’t using the same damage conversion MI (monster infrequent) items as mine, then results are going to be radically different. If you are using the same MI items and a close match for other items, skill point allocation and devotions (I’m guessing no, but I could be wrong) then your results should be similar as there’s no need to use skills in any particular order (as with some other builds) because the passive ADCTH stuff tends to look after you even if you aren’t fully focussed on the fight or whatever. If you want to post a grimtools link to your build in a reply, I’m happy to look at it and point out where there might be stuff that can be improved.
Man... I really want to finish watching this, but you smack your lips loudly at the beginning of EVERY sentence. 😬
Are you sure it's not mouse-clicks and weather effects in the game? Not being funny but I've randomly listened back to various bits and I can't hear what you're saying you're hearing.
Not sure what you mean
@@Afura33this guy might be suffering from misophonia, it can be a deal breaker unfortunately.
@@Arcadelife1i think he meant a sound of wetting your lips. Totally normal just some people can't stand it. Once I read through comments I did spot it a few times
@@vivid287 I think she should look for help then if it is a medical issue.