Tour The 2023 Keystone Cougar 33RLI: Can A Toyota Tundra Safely Pull This 38FT Travel Trailer???
Вставка
- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- Check out this 2023 Keystone Cougar couples trailer with a rear living Floorplan! ||Like || Subscribe || Share || #weightwatcherstruckedition #keystonerv
Spreadsheet: www.keepyourday...
Special thanks to Camping World of Draper:
Address: 13153 Minuteman Dr. Draper, UT 84020
Sales: Glen Wiscomb | 888.533.8913
Check out these great RV essentials from Amazon:
X-Chock Wheel Stabilizer - Pair
amzn.to/3U1Jq37
Renogy 1000W Pure Sine Wave Inverter
amzn.to/3QUILxS
Renogy Flexible Solar Panel 175 Watt
amzn.to/3CnWCZs
Camco TastePURE Inline XL RV Water Filter with Flexible Hose Protector
amzn.to/3PstgMA
Camco 20' RhinoFLEX RV Sewer Hose Kit, Swivel Transparent Elbow
amzn.to/3Gnrolc
RV Accessories Storage Bags for Sewer Hoses, Fresh/Black Water Hoses and Electrical Cords
amzn.to/3GmfsAe
CARMTEK - RV Keyless Entry Door Lock Latch Handle | 2022 RV Lock Keyless Entry
amzn.to/3MWy7p0
Westinghouse iGen4500 Super Quiet Portable Inverter Generator 3700 Rated
amzn.to/3GCZaU1
Great explaination. Thanks. I just got a 2023 Tundy. Gunna go cry now...
We have a 2020 Keystone Laredo 33RL and this is essentially the same floorplan with a few small changes. They discontinued the Laredo line after 2020. It's a great floor plan for couples so glad to see them still making it. NO to 1/2 ton towable. Tongue weight is the primary reason. Ours lightly loaded has a tongue weight of 1375lbs. I pull with a Ram 3500 now but we had a `16 GMC Denali 2500 when we bought it and it was a lot of tongue weight and length for even that.
Its funny, if you watch old commercials or ads you see a station wagon pulling a 30’ Airstream.
Thats fucked isn’t it 😅
We absolutely love or Travel Trailer. Its big. We have 2019 Masa Ridge 310bhs. The Mesa Ridge, Open Range lines have, what I call, full size Travel Trailers that can be used for full timers. I mean, it has 4 slides and a kitchen island. The GVWR on the trailer is 11,500 lbs. They are a little wider and taller and truly feel like a flat floored 5th Wheel. They are also built to a higher quality compared to the "Lite" trailers. The reason we prefer the TT over a 5th Wheel is that much of the storage goes to the truck. We also have truck cap with the decked system, so when we are not hooked up to the trailer, my tools and camp chairs etc go with me and are not back at the trailer.
The deterrent to large travel trailers is stability while towing. We have always used a Hensley Arrow hitch that eliminates sway and made sure we have enough truck to pull it, currently a 2022 GMC 3500 AT4, and it is a pleasure to tow.
JB, if you have a chance to showcase one of the Mesa Ridge or Open Range full size travel trailers, I think you will be very surprised.
Thanks for sharing, I’ve always wanted to review Open Range Fifth wheels so if I find some out here I will give them a try!
Using a 1 ton for a trailer that big is smart and I probably would go that route too and the Hensley line of sway control is the best 👍🏾
JB, always great information. This Cougar is very similar to our 2020 Jayco White Hawk 32RL. Our Jayco is 36.65ft long, and we pull with a 2017 Nissan Titan King Cab. Nissan states max towing at 9240, and we are just under that with the Jayco. We are pushing it to the max as it is, but, it is doable. If I had been in a better position, I would have purchased a 3/4 or 1 ton SRW, but, this is what we have, and all are paid for, which is always a plus. We never go above 65mph, and keep an eye out for sway, which seems to be a problem towing this long of a trailer with a 1/2 ton truck. I have added RAS to the truck which helped some, but, waiting to install LT tires when we can. I will be trading the truck in next year for a 1 ton, but, again, I am sure that there are alot of folks that do the same as I did, and it works. On several forums, people state that they tow 9000 + with their half ton's. I bet they do not have the length that we do. In any case, best of luck to you and your family, and keep the videos coming!
Is yours an XD? I wish they built a 1/2 ton that could tow a true 10k but the XD Titan and max tow GM is the only 1/2 tons I would buy to tow with 👍🏾
It that a regular Titan or a Titan XD?
"Can you" and "should you" are two completely different questions. "Should you" is hell no.
Over 30ft is pushing it for a 1/2 ton IMO. We have a 33ft StarCraft TT with the WeighSafe WD hitch and even that thing can shake our F350 if you aren't careful and watching what you are doing.
Really nice looking TT, though.
Good point!
Good morning JB, when I watch a lot of these videos the truck manufacturers seem to stuck in the past with their weight ratings. 25 years ago travel trailers and 5th wheels were much smaller compared to what they are making today. More people are going full time in these trailers and want more space. I think the truck manufacturers need to catch up on their weight ratings so you don’t have to have a 1 ton truck or a full at to have a decent size trailer. I think the 3/4 space needs a lot of work. GM seems to do it best in that space. Appreciate the video.
Yup, it’s crazy how low payload is for 1/2 tons but did you see the owners manual for Toyota? Literally states this truck should be primary for passengers and load carrying 😂
Nice job sharing real data and hard numbers!
I had a 2019 32RLI that I pulled with a 2017 Tundra. After three different weight distribution/anti sway hitches I final gave up and bought a F250 and still was scared of the truck suck every time a semi passed me. 1250lbs tongue weight is just way too much for a 1/2 ton truck. Pulling the camper was so stressful and tiring after 9 months I sold it and bought the 30RL fifth wheel. Pulling it with the F250 gas burner is a breeze but it’s still way to much for any 1/2 ton truck in my opinion.
Yea my friend did the same with a 2018 Tundra that he traded in for a 3500 👍🏾
I agree, the that trailer is way too much weight for a tundra. I have a 30ft that I tow with my 2016 tundra and it does just fine. The trailer is 7500 lbs loaded. For the new tundra I’d not go past 8k for a loaded trailer just to be safe. But that’s me.
I think that is just a bit too big for a half-ton. While the numbers may jive, they don't take into account the surface area of the RV. I suspect most people towing that with a half-ton would be white-knuckling it on the highway.
Yes, definitely to big for a half ton. That would be a perfect example of the tail wagging the dog.
I agree, Toyota basically states that these are for passenger and load carrying 👍🏾
I believe if you have a WDH, it will stop the swaying process
Im probably never gonna get a truck other than a Tundra just cause of the reliability. But this sux. I just have to make sure my trailers are less than 6500 lbs then.
Informative and great video! I now know a little bit more about the capabilities of my 3rd Gen Tundra!
I’m not sure if I missed something or what I’m missing but travel trailers have been as nicer or nicer than fifth wheels since like 2001
We are looking at this exact trailer. A big factor is how fast you're trying to tow. I see one ton trucks swaying because they want to drive like they dont have a trailer.
What’s crazy is, the Tundra is built heavier than other brands but the cargo capacity stinks. I’m learning the hard way. I bought a Jayco 263 RBS, 7,500 max weight loaded, well within the towing capacity, but with 700 lbs hitch weight, my fiberglass shell, bed slide, and one passenger, I’m maxed out cargo capacity or beyond, and even with a top of the line equilizer hitch, it’s just not stable towing. I added airbags, didn’t help. Next move is going to a spring shop to discuss leaf springs upgrade and just pray it solves my dilemma. If not, bye bye to my favorite truck ever, on to a 3/4 ton with literally double the payload which is what I need. Sadly, my gas mileage will go bye bye too, but can’t put a price on safety. Thanks
That's a great floor plan! I suspect that camper is advertised as a 4 season and is good down to zero degrees? If so, those low point drains look like they'll freeze.
💯
The water hookups for the washing machine are above the top shelf. Seems like it is setup for a combo washer dryer. If you have individual washer dryer machines, you would want the much heavier washer sitting on the floor not on the top shelf where the water hookups are. So you would need to drill holes in the top shelf to bring the water hoses down to the washing machine.
Thanks for sharing this 👍🏾
What a lot of people don’t understand is how these truck company’s come up with the weight ratio numbers.
There’s an actual video on UA-cam and what they put the truck through to come up with said numbers is ridiculous.
This is a beautiful travel trailer. They have come along way. We purchased a 2022 Keystone Outback 340bh. If you get a chance to review, please do. It is loaded with features. We purchased it in Nov 2021 and have loved our 12v fridge, on demand hot water heater and the solar package. The outside kitchen is awesome. It's great if you have kids. Check it out, you won't be disappointed. 😁
Outback may have the best interior design now that you bring that up lol!
Very helpful I have the same truck was looking at a Toy hauler 30ft jacko The dealer woulent say anything I cancelled after reading this Thanks u tube you saved me on this one .
Dude stop with the click bait videos. It’s why I unsubscribed from your channel and why I only watched a total of about 5 seconds of this video. You have in the thumbnail language about a “will a Tundra tow a 38’ camper”. And you even show it hooked up to a Tundra. There’s damn sure no nothing in the video showing a tundra towing that camper.
You set a trend with the white interior.
No way, that was being done long before we did it lol 👍🏾
Camping world does come up with some pretty nice campers, but the buying experience from them really sucks!! I personally would never purchase another camper from Camping world ever again! I will never even consider buying from Camping world again. I actually would go out of my way to not purchase from them. My experience was horrible and I’m not the only one my father who purchased one from another camping world many states away also had a miserable purchasing experience. Even after the fact trying to get #Warranty stuff done was a miserable situation with Camping world.
Great breakdown !
Thanks bro 👍🏾
Nice review.
Dodge, Ford or Chevy....yes.
Gonna have to throw wife, kids and gear into the coach to pull it down the road
Lol, you not lying!
37 foot you can tell that with your own truck because it’s the 3500 with the diesel that would give you so much better
So where in this video is the tundra pulling the camper ????
What do you use to tow these large caravans in the USA? some are trailer wagons with a high hook like that of trucks, I can't find a video or photo of caravans running with the towing vehicle and I don't understand what type of vehicle they are towed with.
Can the Tundra pull it-----it has enough power to easily pull it. But, if you hook that trailer up to a new Tundra, you will most likely be above the cargo-carrying capacity of the truck and that's without putting any gear in it. Maybe a jockey could sit in the driver's seat but that's about it without being illegal.
I would love this floorplan if I can rig some shelves above bed for CPAP machine
Anything is possible in an rv lol!
My biggest problem with rv newbies. Having wrong truck. So many under sized trucks out there
Yup and it’s because people don’t proper educate them 👍🏾
Pretty darn nice TT. Lots of fifth wheel vibes. But this is a lot of tail wagging a 1/2 ton dog! This has gas 2500 mega cab written all over it. 🇺🇸💪
Yup, I wouldn’t buy a 1/2 ton to tow, Toyota basically says not to lol 🇺🇸💪🏾
@@JB_WhoWork I saw that! WTF😂
This 38ft cougar is to long and to heavy for a 1/2 ton truck. I have a 2022 Cougar 25RDS (30ft) and a GMC Denali 1/2 ton 6.2 8 speed. The truck pulls it no problem and is very stable going down the road but I wouldn't want to go any bigger than this. I have the Cougar for a year now and just love it and had no issues with it.
Thanks for sharing this, great stuff 👍🏾
where is one towing ? the flats of Kansas or over the donner pass I-80 ? the 'IKE' on I -70 I dont trust tow ratings my airstream is 6000lbs 880 hitch I use a 1/2 ram it does good. my next truck is 3/4 ton single cab 8' box as we take m/c and bikes with us now . and a 5.5 box on a. crew cab doesn't work for us
Thanks for sharing this, Airstreams seem to be pretty aerodynamic and for you to still want to go HD, says something 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork thanks a few new tips from this vid , added wt. ent. screens and fluff the high end models have take away from payload , and about hitch wt .and payload thats.why I like low spec models light wt = more towing and payload
I have my new tundra for only week I find out most parts it’s plastic I trade for new Denali
2022 Tundra?
I’d rather have a Keystone Arcadia 377RL JB
Bro I probably would go Arcadia over Cougar because their interior design is unmatched and feels like an actual home 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork I agree and there slide outs are just as tall as the Arcadia 5th wheels.
I'm sorry but you have so many annoying mouth noises, I'm out... and I'm not even wearing headphones. Clean that stuff up in post brother
All the Toyota Tundra’s from the Jan one to the second GEN and third GEN tundras are three-quarter ton trucks
You’re kidding. Right ?
No I’m not kidding there are really heavy duty trucks I have a 2005 Toyota tundra every single day I put a gooseneck on it and it pulls better than diesel truck
@@raulbueno4284 Seriously. Stop the madness. I have a 2019 tundra and a 2022 GMC Sierra 2500 in my driveway. The tundra is a half ton truck. This is not debatable. You’re talking out of your ass to think otherwise. That being said. The tundra is an Awsome truck. It’s built very well. It will outlast the gm truck most likely. It pulls my 8500 lb boat trailer well with airbags. It would probably accelerate faster than the gas 2500 with the trailer behind it but that’s it. The brakes, suspension, and just the extra weight of the 2500 are far better for carrying a load in the bed or trailer.
Look man trust me I pulled up to 15,000 pounds here in Colorado with a gooseneck the tundra that trailer like nothing I’ve been seriously all the Tundra’s front of friction second GEN and third GEN thunders are the best trucks out there
I live in Colorado and tow my 30' 2019 volante 270bhs fith wheel with my 2017 tundra Crewmax over all the mountain passes in this state loaded and full of water with no problem I did install the blue sumo springs to help with the sag and a sidewinder on my fith wheel to help with turning for the 5 1/2 foot bed