I feel the whole discussion of world accepting and world denying religions was very important. One rarely finds such frank discussion about this subject.
I fully agree, this subject is not always, or never is exposed with such clarity, I like Mr. Arith's straightforwardness to do it in a correct way and leave open paths that lead us to rethink so many things.
i know this is a 2 year old comment but yeah this sentiment actively "cured" my fear of spiders way back in 5th grade! i now love spiders and am seeking an entomology degree so.. curiosity works lol
"the arrogance of mankind always prevents the development of inner potential' - what is wrong with the entire world in a simple statement, well said Arith, well said
Just the kind of subjects that interest me in October 😌 You're uploading very frequently this month, thank you very much and don't forget to rest as well. Take care!
I've always been attracted to the "darker" aspects of spirituality. I put darker in parenthesis because I try to make no difference between left/right, bright/dark etc. They are just human biases and what is good to me is evil to the other and vice versa. Love how you mention this dualism too. I started out Asatruar but have become more and more animistic as I grow older so your videos ring a bell with me. I felt really attracted to the Norse pantheon but the thought of seeing Odin as just another "sky daddy" felt plain weird to me. I do believe in their existence but they just are. Like gravity. I feel much more connected and alive since I no longer seek "out there".
So much knowledge given for free. This dude deserves the highest blessings and props. Who else does this? I'm Armenian and I wish someone would do this for our Pagan traditions. Most of the stuff related to ours is either in Armenian and Russian and usually in the form of books
Why not you? Like, you’ve got the desire and you see what this kind of education can do for others. Why not be the next one to re-awaken humanity’s consciousness?
@@neatoburrito9045 seconded. Arith chose to use his time to teach! So much respect for those that are committed (and have the confidence) enough to share the knowledge they clearly enjoy learning about
Nordic literature of the middle ages brought forth greater awareness of the Æsir myth, discovery of ancient cuneiform tablets 200 years ago gave us knowledge of our oldest stories, and lessons passed from old Canaan to the modern western world largely gave us Abrahamism as we know it. Accessibility is a huge factor in the scope and size of what knowledge enters the collective mind. You could and should be the one to scribe it.
"The arrogance of mankind always prevents the development of inner potential." Bingo. I do not agree that we are here as a punishment, however. That, too, seems to be a belief of the Abrahamic system. Being able to live, to enjoy, to appreciate the magic and wonder of creation, being able to create as a god, is a profound gift. We are here to learn how to become gods and to reflect that which created us. Furthermore, it has been my lifelong personal experience that my creator is infinitely forgiving as I bumble around making my mistakes and learning my lessons. Perhaps I am too life-embracing to be Thursatru?
I remember reading in one of ONAs publications decades ago the statement, "I know what it's like to be in prison and to be free" (paraphrased). At first I thought it meant to be a prisoner in prison/behind bars on some occasions and free/not in prison/on the streets on other occasions. I've since come to realise that they probably meant to be free while in prison by not betraying oneself in thought, word, or deed in submission to the jailer. That one retains sovereignty wherever one is. In that way we can prosper here while awaiting the day of release.
After a long illness that causes much suffering, the isolation from all I knew due to a transatlantic move and the loss of a career for which I underwent over a decade of rigorous education and training….my physical and psychological suffering opened me up to experiences that are beyond my ability to describe. I have had to traverse a Void in an out-of-body state, something which was FAR more painful (eviscerating) than anything I had had to endure so far. After this Void, in which my old Self died, I entered a long Dark Night of the Soul, during which I had to relearn “being.” After all this….one thing I can say is that EVERY soul is on its own pilgrimage and religions/beliefs/rituals appear to us as beacons in the dark. Most, if not all, are false beacons. It’s not until we accept the dark…stop flailing, crying, seeking, thrashing…and start listening to your own pure essence. No other being can do it for you! You can’t travel on another’s road! Our creator resides in everything and you’ll find the One beckoning you when you let go and surrender.
I always love watching your videos, since every time I watch one I always learn something new, and I strive to learn as much as I can. So I thank you Arith for teaching us new things and new information for us to grow our minds. I greatly appreciate it and keep up the great work!
Love all you're Insightful vids!! I like that you brought up SAMYAZA (SAMJAZA) or SHEMYAZA. Shemyaza is the Knower of the Names, Master of Sorcery, Rootwork and Enchantments, all MAGICK'S.....
Since first hearing about Thursatru and Rokkatru, I've found their perspectives fascinating. Thank you for diving a little deeper with this video, I'm going to have to go through it a few times to really absorb it. Well done, sir!
Fantastic video, yet again. The World Accepting vs World Denying explanation of belief systems is DYNAMIC and caused me a great paradigm shift. Thank you for sharing this.
Super interesting. Arith has a gift which is the ability to explain things up front and clearly in his information and explanations. He knows his mind and is firm in his spiritual beliefs but is open. He is a flawed man but is open to learning and knowing. I believe he knows he can love more than one person but getting past his wall is not always so easy.
it seems to me then...that Odinn himself was following the thursatru path. Considering what we know about him tells us he was a wanderer and he was always seeking knowledge. Which means he was aware of his own "physical" limitations as well, and he too was looking for a way to transcend.
Taking a negative approach to any spiritual development leads to personal problems on a huge life warping scale. You have a great balance and perspective. Good work, and good wisdom.
I don't know how I found your pages but I'm happy I did! I was very fascinated by Satanism when I was an atheist for 10 years but couldn't find the right materials. Now I identify as pagan but I'm still fascinated by anything that isn't mainstream. Your voice is so relaxing!
Does anyone else have to watch Arith’s video in all increments because they are so profound that you have to stop and ponder his words? After I finish an entire video, I usually need a nap. LOL!
Great video! This is the first time I've heard of Norse anti cosmic Satanism... I'm familiar with anti cosmic Satanism based off the Sitra Achra... do you feel there could be parallels in the Jewish Qabalah, like the Jewish tree of life/sefirot with Nordic concepts like Yggdrasil and if so what would you say the "norse sitra achra" is?? Does Yggdrasil have an opposite, an other side??
Thursatru actually comes from the current 218 philosophical background (check the author Ekortu, he wrotes several grimoires), as it is a "syncretic" tradition aiming to group the anti-cosmic aspects of different cultures ; for example: Qliphoth (Qabalah) and Cult of Qayin, Tiamat (Sumerian), Set (Ancient Egypt), Kali (Hinduism), and obviously Thursar for Norse mythology.
I'm working on a personal memoir and I'm curious as to where you first came across the terms "World-Accepting View," and "World-Denying View," so I can do more research on that subject. Thank you
I've been waiting for the new you to show up here! (You've looked that way for a while now on IG.) Looking fantastic (as always.) :-) And now for the video... oh boy this is gonna be a good one....
thank you arith for another fascinating talk. i was going to ask you some questions. firstly, how can thursatru be anti aesir when the blood of the aesir is part giant in its heritage; surely this would prevent thursatru from being against the aesir? secondly, i was going to ask about lokism. how does this relate to thursatru, asatru and heathenry? i have read some of the classic texts, i was wondering whether the christian translators may have placed loki as a satan kind of figure and wondered whether this might be misleading? is lokism like a nordic version of satanism or is it something completely different? thank you.
Haha great to hear from you again Rasputin, been a while!! Haha love the vids Arith you help provide great insight into the self and inspire positive thought
Omg Thank you so much I am an Omnist I am also walking my own path. It upsets so many people they keep doing witch burning on me. Or spiritual Alchemy or soul loss.. I saw a spiritual guardian during the first time. I try so hard to keep learning I seek the traditional way of thinking. I can't answer or understand why people do what they do. But right now I'm currently going thru the process of soul loss again. You and your knowledge is helping me so much. Thank you.
Man your perspective on Thursatru leaves a completely different vibe than the articles I've read by Thursatru practicers 😅 every article I've read by Thursatru practicers is very in denial of the fact that they take inspiration from Gnosticism and Satanism, with a lot of insistence that it's the tRuE religions/religious intent of our ancestors. I'm very in favor of people forging their own paths utilizing whatever inspires and feels correct to them so long as their not misrepresenting those paths, but all the writings on that front were filled with misrepresentation and outright lies about their sources.
Just found your channel and thought tje title of this video was very interesting. I am part Native American, with English and some Scandinavian as well, and i consider myself a heathen. Been reading a lot on the subject. The fact Thursatru exists just shows how the medieval Christian writers inserted Judeo Christian interpretations of the Norse myths. Thursatru is an outcome imo of someone reading the Poetic Edda and taking it literally. Since I'm still kinda new to Heathenry i have difficulty shaking latent Christianity off of me, and im guilty of trying to appease the gods to obtain a "pagan" afterlife. It sounds silly, but it's something im mentally dealing with still. I found this video very interesting and i found the animism part fascinating as well.
Can I conclude that followers of Thursatru seek for knowledge to escape reincarnation or any other means of staying in the created universe (heaven , valhalla, etc.) when they die? Thanks Arith for this elaborate summary and I follow your view that people should seek their own spiritual path and subsequent vessels or channels of communication.
Arith, you have a very interesting interpretation of Norse/Germanic Paganism. I would like to know your opinion of Jackson Crawford and his interpretation of old Norse religion?
I like how you say reality isn't dualistic. This duality is what we perceive and is how the non dual expresses itself, but in reality everything is one and the same, expressed in different forms. Whether you call it God, consciousness, nirvana whatever.. Well said, nice video.
This is another video of yours I learned something from. Thank you for all the work. I am going to be busy listening to all your videos. Wish I would have found your channel earlier. Thank you 😊
Thursatru just sounds like LHP Asatru. The approach to deities like Hel resemble the Greek cults of Hecate, for example. It's reasonable to speculate there would have been people who practiced "sorcery" in ancient times, and contacted or "partnered" with forces that normal people would regarded as evil or "demonic". Obviously, none of those beliefs would have survived the arrival of Christianity. Snorri never would have told the story of someone who made pacts with a "Thurses".
So, would the mystical branches from the main monotheistic religions (for example Kabbalah, Sufism, etc.) be world affirming or world denying, like their organized religion counterparts? I’m not too well versed in the topic, but it seems to me that mysticism, or at least some forms of it, aims at establishing some sort of symbiosis with the spiritual realm before death occurs, and not just in the aftermath as a reward of a life that has stuck to the rules of a set religion. Is this correct?
Arith, is it possible to have both points of view and kind of be in the middle? I mean I approach things with an animistic mindset but I also am very drawn to the study of magic and learning about the cosmic powers of Ginnungagap. Is this something that exists and has a name or is it just my own hybrid mashup of spirituality?
I think each one of us (including, obviously, ancient peoples, pagan or not) has his/hers own feelings about the surroundings. And some people just feel something is "off". Regarding material life, in the cosmic, three dimensional realm. Of course, ancient heathens didn't write books, so, I guess Gnosticism got the "full rights" to such initial approach, when it comes to pointing out the Archontic Cosmic Lie. But it's a perception that is simply there, in some spirits. This doesn't mean a person can't be a pagan and a gnostic anti-cosmic satanist at the same time. For sure in the past that's how many felt. Actually, in the past they most likely weren't very interested in labeling themselves in such a manner. Or any other. Funny example: the fact that a kid hates school, and doesn't accept its concept, doesn't mean he won't try having the most possible amount of awesome moments while being forced to stay there ;-D Even facing it as a defying challenge. Part of the fun, even.
Hi Arith, thanks for the video. Just curious - did you have a chance to study/compare Hinduism to Nordic Religion? There are few similarities that I'm able to notice but I do want to know from a professional if it's true of if it's all in my head. Would appreciate it if there's a video/read that I can follow to learn more
I have the same question about similarity. I did some digging around on Wikipedia and we do share some roots, but it was so long ago that it's not obvious how you ended up where you are and we ended up where we are. Apparently, our common ancestors seeded many different regional belief systems from the same proto-religion centered around three 'classes' and three main gods (of sky, land, and sea). I'd love to know more details than I was able to piece together, though! For example, did Thor have a net like Indra? How related are Mjölner and vajras? Perhaps you know this one - is there a primordial world tree in any of the stories of the sanātana dharma?
@@teresaspicer4829 that's right, there are several lores that intersect and there's indeed a primordial tree of life called the "Kalpavriksha" - loosely translates to Tree of Eons (and I couldn't help but connect it to the timeline between 2 Ragnarok) but the epics are vast and dates much older, so I'm not quite sure. Would be happy to know, though
I googled so many words and learned so much from just this one video, yet I'm more confused than ever about myself. I don't know where I stand anymore. I think I fall in the category "agnostic atheist", but more wanting to be an agnostic theist but my scientific mind sometimes takes the reigns and says fuck it all. Then I watch freyia norling and I'm a believer again. I'm constantly here and there. Completely torn in half about it all. I can't be the only person who believes, but doesn't, it's not that I'm "just" spiritual, I do believe something is likely there, but I'm struggling with it... eh. Am I alone here?
I was raised in the Baptist church but my dad also taught me to be an Omist. There is truth in all religions and faith systems. There is no one true religion. This channel is my first deep dive into the older beliefs than the Abrahamic religions.
It all came from the guy behind the swedish black metal band arckanum who basically made the beliefs of dissection and watain into a more norse version
From this video and your Rokatru video I'm left wondering if a path exists to engage and experience the paganism of my ancestors. You say that the knowledge available to us is so corrupted by medieval Christianity that we can't be sure what is true. You have also said that Western minds are so captured by our collective Christian consciousness that we can't grasp the principles of the old ways. Given that I can see why some would be attracted to an alacarte philosophy combining elements of gnosticism and Satanism. You are a gifted teacher and an acknowledged subject matter expert. I believe the beginning of the end for animism and true paganism began when man stepped outside of nature and left the hunter-gatherer lifestyle and entered into an agrarian one. And over the centuries he begin to rely less and less on nature to where he didn't need nature anymore. Or at least he felt that way. And along with that came cities in towns and the monotheistic religions we have today. Which are authoritarian hierarchical and aggressively expansionist. I seek to wipe that all away in my thinking and engage more on an indigenous level with shamanism. The Earth denying religions of brought us to the point where we have taken what we want from the earth and not given back. And now we find ourselves beginning to pay the price for our arrogance. It's impossible to describe God. All religions are just metaphor. It doesn't mean the spirits don't exist. It's just that we can't truly explain them. So good luck with that. Thanks for what you do.
I loved the part about racism, asides from all of it of course. I had a chat with some people from the Vodou community and I find they are folkish, they are a closed group and do the exact opposite of what Asatru is trying to do, i.e the Troth and TAC. Spirit has no color. This is such a limited and ignorant view and I'm glad you mentioned it and dealth with it in the proper fashion. Racism has no pert in spirituality and is a 3D concept acceptable only to unenlightened and closed minds, minds that are focused on immediate surroundings instead of the bounty of enlightenment that the cosmos holds. Racism is pathetic.
Maybe you didn't read Ekortu's books and so totally missed the parts on animism? Ekortu clearly talks about and even underlines the importance of animism within Thursatru as the spirits in nature have a huge roll within their sorcery. They believe that the 'troll' spirits are directly descendants of the thurses and that the 'troll' spirits are trapped in nature, and so being 'close' to us humans. Why do think Thursatruar give offerings to the tree spirits before they harvest (explained to be a strict tradition)? Why do you think they give offerings to the spirits of the woods when they enter the forest, or giving food and coins to the Tomte, or giving libation to the water spirits before fishing or collecting water, or give offerings to the gate-keeper when they enter cemeteries, etc... ANIMISM IS VERY IMPORTANT within Thursatru. Pro tip, read Ekortu's book Svartkonst and learn about the importance of animism within their path.
I was wondering the same thing. I am half Hungarian so I know we also do the tree rituals. We have places we go, sacred groves of sorts. It is part of that anti- cosmic element . If you think about it, the way Christian people treat the Earth, it behooves us to do the opposite as Satanist.
From my limited understanding I figured nationalism would happen in Paganism on a smaller scale, the community. That especially when times are hard you prioritize feeding your neighbors over feeding the world. You would defend your neighborhood and community before traveling miles to defend strangers. Not that you couldn't trade with strangers or would actively harm them, but you should support your friends and help with their problems first.
Yeah, that was the only part of this that I took exception to. Naught in animism precludes in-group preference-indeed, it even promotes it as a self-preservation function.
Thank you for this video! I'll be sharing it a lot. I have tried over and over to explain to people to spend more time developing a relationship with nature spirits and ancestors. So many still feel the need to put a Christian order on the gods and goddesses. World denying and world accepting view explanations were excellent. Oh, by the way, wasn't expecting the new look but it suits you. ☺
I feel the whole discussion of world accepting and world denying religions was very important. One rarely finds such frank discussion about this subject.
I fully agree, this subject is not always, or never is exposed with such clarity, I like Mr. Arith's straightforwardness to do it in a correct way and leave open paths that lead us to rethink so many things.
Agreed! My favorite part of the entire lecture.
"Replace fear with curiosity" is the wisest thing I've heard in like... a long long time.
Tack till dig Arith!
i know this is a 2 year old comment but yeah this sentiment actively "cured" my fear of spiders way back in 5th grade! i now love spiders and am seeking an entomology degree so.. curiosity works lol
curiosity is not always a good thing, but fear is also not necessary. It is good to know evil to avoid evil.
There isn't one single video I dislike from you. Another great video Arith, thank you!
@Mr. Wednesday though you were gone by now, always crying about something. Get a life, maybe?
"the arrogance of mankind always prevents the development of inner potential' - what is wrong with the entire world in a simple statement, well said Arith, well said
Just the kind of subjects that interest me in October 😌
You're uploading very frequently this month, thank you very much and don't forget to rest as well. Take care!
No. You look fierce dude
I've always been attracted to the "darker" aspects of spirituality. I put darker in parenthesis because I try to make no difference between left/right, bright/dark etc. They are just human biases and what is good to me is evil to the other and vice versa.
Love how you mention this dualism too.
I started out Asatruar but have become more and more animistic as I grow older so your videos ring a bell with me. I felt really attracted to the Norse pantheon but the thought of seeing Odin as just another "sky daddy" felt plain weird to me. I do believe in their existence but they just are. Like gravity. I feel much more connected and alive since I no longer seek "out there".
That last line of yours got me good. I'll be keeping that in mind from now on, thanks for sharing!
I'm learning so much from you about our history, and ultimately, my Self. Thank you for the work that you do Arith!
P. S. Your new look is 🔥
So much knowledge given for free. This dude deserves the highest blessings and props. Who else does this? I'm Armenian and I wish someone would do this for our Pagan traditions. Most of the stuff related to ours is either in Armenian and Russian and usually in the form of books
Why not you? Like, you’ve got the desire and you see what this kind of education can do for others. Why not be the next one to re-awaken humanity’s consciousness?
@@neatoburrito9045 seconded. Arith chose to use his time to teach! So much respect for those that are committed (and have the confidence) enough to share the knowledge they clearly enjoy learning about
Nordic literature of the middle ages brought forth greater awareness of the Æsir myth, discovery of ancient cuneiform tablets 200 years ago gave us knowledge of our oldest stories, and lessons passed from old Canaan to the modern western world largely gave us Abrahamism as we know it.
Accessibility is a huge factor in the scope and size of what knowledge enters the collective mind. You could and should be the one to scribe it.
"The arrogance of mankind always prevents the development of inner potential." Bingo. I do not agree that we are here as a punishment, however. That, too, seems to be a belief of the Abrahamic system. Being able to live, to enjoy, to appreciate the magic and wonder of creation, being able to create as a god, is a profound gift. We are here to learn how to become gods and to reflect that which created us. Furthermore, it has been my lifelong personal experience that my creator is infinitely forgiving as I bumble around making my mistakes and learning my lessons. Perhaps I am too life-embracing to be Thursatru?
I do agree 😊
Yes, my thoughts exactly.
I really do agree
We really need to take the term thursatru back, make it as open as the term heathen is.
I remember reading in one of ONAs publications decades ago the statement, "I know what it's like to be in prison and to be free" (paraphrased). At first I thought it meant to be a prisoner in prison/behind bars on some occasions and free/not in prison/on the streets on other occasions. I've since come to realise that they probably meant to be free while in prison by not betraying oneself in thought, word, or deed in submission to the jailer. That one retains sovereignty wherever one is.
In that way we can prosper here while awaiting the day of release.
Your channel is endlessly fascinating. I love it
After a long illness that causes much suffering, the isolation from all I knew due to a transatlantic move and the loss of a career for which I underwent over a decade of rigorous education and training….my physical and psychological suffering opened me up to experiences that are beyond my ability to describe.
I have had to traverse a Void in an out-of-body state, something which was FAR more painful (eviscerating) than anything I had had to endure so far.
After this Void, in which my old Self died, I entered a long Dark Night of the Soul, during which I had to relearn “being.”
After all this….one thing I can say is that EVERY soul is on its own pilgrimage and religions/beliefs/rituals appear to us as beacons in the dark. Most, if not all, are false beacons. It’s not until we accept the dark…stop flailing, crying, seeking, thrashing…and start listening to your own pure essence. No other being can do it for you! You can’t travel on another’s road! Our creator resides in everything and you’ll find the One beckoning you when you let go and surrender.
Norse Anton LaVey with the new look
Dark and edgy
I just watched two videos from you on the Sorcerers Screed and Icelandic book of Futhark. Now I get another interesting video from you
I always love watching your videos, since every time I watch one I always learn something new, and I strive to learn as much as I can. So I thank you Arith for teaching us new things and new information for us to grow our minds. I greatly appreciate it and keep up the great work!
Loved your closing words, "replace fear with curiosity".
Love all you're Insightful vids!! I like that you brought up SAMYAZA (SAMJAZA) or SHEMYAZA. Shemyaza is the Knower of the Names, Master of Sorcery, Rootwork and Enchantments, all MAGICK'S.....
As always, thorough with diligent insight! Thankful for your efforts.
Since first hearing about Thursatru and Rokkatru, I've found their perspectives fascinating. Thank you for diving a little deeper with this video, I'm going to have to go through it a few times to really absorb it. Well done, sir!
Fantastic video, yet again. The World Accepting vs World Denying explanation of belief systems is DYNAMIC and caused me a great paradigm shift. Thank you for sharing this.
Thank you for the great video Arith
You are a gift to this world Arith!!
I love this. Thank you Arith for this.
Super interesting. Arith has a gift which is the ability to explain things up front and clearly in his information and explanations. He knows his mind and is firm in his spiritual beliefs but is open. He is a flawed man but is open to learning and knowing. I believe he knows he can love more than one person but getting past his wall is not always so easy.
it seems to me then...that Odinn himself was following the thursatru path. Considering what we know about him tells us he was a wanderer and he was always seeking knowledge. Which means he was aware of his own "physical" limitations as well, and he too was looking for a way to transcend.
THIS! Loki was his blood brother after all.
Move over LaVey, Arith wears the look better than you.
yeah, you went from pansy to psycho in 1 move. good shit. it works ;)
Lavey is trash compared to lavey
Taking a negative approach to any spiritual development leads to personal problems on a huge life warping scale.
You have a great balance and perspective. Good work, and good wisdom.
I don't know how I found your pages but I'm happy I did! I was very fascinated by Satanism when I was an atheist for 10 years but couldn't find the right materials. Now I identify as pagan but I'm still fascinated by anything that isn't mainstream. Your voice is so relaxing!
Does anyone else have to watch Arith’s video in all increments because they are so profound that you have to stop and ponder his words?
After I finish an entire video, I usually need a nap. LOL!
Great video!
This is the first time I've heard of Norse anti cosmic Satanism...
I'm familiar with anti cosmic Satanism based off the Sitra Achra... do you feel there could be parallels in the Jewish Qabalah, like the Jewish tree of life/sefirot with Nordic concepts like Yggdrasil and if so what would you say the "norse sitra achra" is?? Does Yggdrasil have an opposite, an other side??
Yes theirs would be the darker gods if you will. Loki, Fenrir, the world serpent etc
I really really love this video. Thank you 👌
I love it. It's like the anti-cosmic current 218.
Thursatru actually comes from the current 218 philosophical background (check the author Ekortu, he wrotes several grimoires), as it is a "syncretic" tradition aiming to group the anti-cosmic aspects of different cultures ; for example: Qliphoth (Qabalah) and Cult of Qayin, Tiamat (Sumerian), Set (Ancient Egypt), Kali (Hinduism), and obviously Thursar for Norse mythology.
I know, sounds like ToBL.
Thank you for another excellent video! And the new look is great!
Excellent explanation! Thank you! I love your videos!
I just want you to know I love you and I appreciate your brilliant mind and your time that you share with us... blessed be to my dear brother
Love your analysis and the way you give simple explanations to complex ideas
I'm working on a personal memoir and I'm curious as to where you first came across the terms "World-Accepting View," and "World-Denying View," so I can do more research on that subject. Thank you
I've been waiting for the new you to show up here! (You've looked that way for a while now on IG.) Looking fantastic (as always.) :-)
And now for the video... oh boy this is gonna be a good one....
I would like to live near you just to have the chance to chat about these things and listen to you in person. I was in awe watching this.
thank you arith for another fascinating talk. i was going to ask you some questions. firstly, how can thursatru be anti aesir when the blood of the aesir is part giant in its heritage; surely this would prevent thursatru from being against the aesir? secondly, i was going to ask about lokism. how does this relate to thursatru, asatru and heathenry? i have read some of the classic texts, i was wondering whether the christian translators may have placed loki as a satan kind of figure and wondered whether this might be misleading? is lokism like a nordic version of satanism or is it something completely different? thank you.
Thank You! And absolutely agree with "the more religions you study..." after a lifetime of reading every major text (and many not-so-major ones).
Very nice video, very well put together.
I just subscribed. Thank you. Finally someone who can make sense of ALL the "stuff" that's being circulated. I'm a pagan witch. Thank you, again.
You are quick becoming where I sell wisdom and insight. Thank you!
Haha great to hear from you again Rasputin, been a while!! Haha love the vids Arith you help provide great insight into the self and inspire positive thought
Hey brother ! Looks great ! Very clean ! Hope it feels as good to you as it does to me ! Very liberating !
You are a treasure trove of information and I anticipate listening to you while doing my daily routine, Much appreciated!🙏
Your mind and intention, from my opinion, is beautiful, and right.
We need to return to an animistic point of view of the world,we really need it right now more than ever
enlightening ,thank you
Thanks you for sharing, Loved this lesson . 🙏✌
Omg Thank you so much I am an Omnist I am also walking my own path. It upsets so many people they keep doing witch burning on me. Or spiritual Alchemy or soul loss.. I saw a spiritual guardian during the first time. I try so hard to keep learning I seek the traditional way of thinking. I can't answer or understand why people do what they do. But right now I'm currently going thru the process of soul loss again. You and your knowledge is helping me so much. Thank you.
This is awesome. Incredible videos, as always. Best channel ever
I had watched another one of your videos and wondered about what you might know about Satanism. 🎉 Thank you for sharing 🙏 very insightful.
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You were missing the pre-requisite armor and axe before that stare would look intimidating. 😄
excellent video thank you
Man your perspective on Thursatru leaves a completely different vibe than the articles I've read by Thursatru practicers 😅 every article I've read by Thursatru practicers is very in denial of the fact that they take inspiration from Gnosticism and Satanism, with a lot of insistence that it's the tRuE religions/religious intent of our ancestors. I'm very in favor of people forging their own paths utilizing whatever inspires and feels correct to them so long as their not misrepresenting those paths, but all the writings on that front were filled with misrepresentation and outright lies about their sources.
Thank you very much for making these videos, this was very helpful for me. keep being awesome
Just found your channel and thought tje title of this video was very interesting. I am part Native American, with English and some Scandinavian as well, and i consider myself a heathen. Been reading a lot on the subject. The fact Thursatru exists just shows how the medieval Christian writers inserted Judeo Christian interpretations of the Norse myths. Thursatru is an outcome imo of someone reading the Poetic Edda and taking it literally. Since I'm still kinda new to Heathenry i have difficulty shaking latent Christianity off of me, and im guilty of trying to appease the gods to obtain a "pagan" afterlife. It sounds silly, but it's something im mentally dealing with still. I found this video very interesting and i found the animism part fascinating as well.
Can I conclude that followers of Thursatru seek for knowledge to escape reincarnation or any other means of staying in the created universe (heaven , valhalla, etc.) when they die? Thanks Arith for this elaborate summary and I follow your view that people should seek their own spiritual path and subsequent vessels or channels of communication.
Arith, you have a very interesting interpretation of Norse/Germanic Paganism. I would like to know your opinion of Jackson Crawford and his interpretation of old Norse religion?
I like how you say reality isn't dualistic. This duality is what we perceive and is how the non dual expresses itself, but in reality everything is one and the same, expressed in different forms. Whether you call it God, consciousness, nirvana whatever.. Well said, nice video.
We are all children of Ymir.
That was awesome, very enlightening! (First video of yours that I’m watching.)
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Do you have any academic background and publications? 🙂
This is another video of yours I learned something from. Thank you for all the work. I am going to be busy listening to all your videos. Wish I would have found your channel earlier. Thank you 😊
Thursatru just sounds like LHP Asatru. The approach to deities like Hel resemble the Greek cults of Hecate, for example. It's reasonable to speculate there would have been people who practiced "sorcery" in ancient times, and contacted or "partnered" with forces that normal people would regarded as evil or "demonic". Obviously, none of those beliefs would have survived the arrival of Christianity. Snorri never would have told the story of someone who made pacts with a "Thurses".
So, would the mystical branches from the main monotheistic religions (for example Kabbalah, Sufism, etc.) be world affirming or world denying, like their organized religion counterparts? I’m not too well versed in the topic, but it seems to me that mysticism, or at least some forms of it, aims at establishing some sort of symbiosis with the spiritual realm before death occurs, and not just in the aftermath as a reward of a life that has stuck to the rules of a set religion. Is this correct?
Arith, is it possible to have both points of view and kind of be in the middle? I mean I approach things with an animistic mindset but I also am very drawn to the study of magic and learning about the cosmic powers of Ginnungagap. Is this something that exists and has a name or is it just my own hybrid mashup of spirituality?
This will be another video where I'm going to rewatch and take notes lol. This faintly reminds me of Lovecraftian myths and worship.
i' m very glad that i came across your channel.
Excellent video. As always
I think each one of us (including, obviously, ancient peoples, pagan or not) has his/hers own feelings about the surroundings. And some people just feel something is "off". Regarding material life, in the cosmic, three dimensional realm. Of course, ancient heathens didn't write books, so, I guess Gnosticism got the "full rights" to such initial approach, when it comes to pointing out the Archontic Cosmic Lie. But it's a perception that is simply there, in some spirits. This doesn't mean a person can't be a pagan and a gnostic anti-cosmic satanist at the same time. For sure in the past that's how many felt. Actually, in the past they most likely weren't very interested in labeling themselves in such a manner. Or any other. Funny example: the fact that a kid hates school, and doesn't accept its concept, doesn't mean he won't try having the most possible amount of awesome moments while being forced to stay there ;-D Even facing it as a defying challenge. Part of the fun, even.
Arith, have you read
Ryan Smith's
The Way of Fire and Ice
The Living Tradition of Norse Paganism?
I think you should read it
Who wrote this videos opening quote?
Myself
Always top video thank you
Thank you for this wonderful video!
Hi Arith, thanks for the video. Just curious - did you have a chance to study/compare Hinduism to Nordic Religion? There are few similarities that I'm able to notice but I do want to know from a professional if it's true of if it's all in my head. Would appreciate it if there's a video/read that I can follow to learn more
I have the same question about similarity. I did some digging around on Wikipedia and we do share some roots, but it was so long ago that it's not obvious how you ended up where you are and we ended up where we are. Apparently, our common ancestors seeded many different regional belief systems from the same proto-religion centered around three 'classes' and three main gods (of sky, land, and sea). I'd love to know more details than I was able to piece together, though!
For example, did Thor have a net like Indra? How related are Mjölner and vajras? Perhaps you know this one - is there a primordial world tree in any of the stories of the sanātana dharma?
@@teresaspicer4829 that's right, there are several lores that intersect and there's indeed a primordial tree of life called the "Kalpavriksha" - loosely translates to Tree of Eons (and I couldn't help but connect it to the timeline between 2 Ragnarok) but the epics are vast and dates much older, so I'm not quite sure. Would be happy to know, though
Again, So Good🤗‼️
I googled so many words and learned so much from just this one video, yet I'm more confused than ever about myself.
I don't know where I stand anymore. I think I fall in the category "agnostic atheist", but more wanting to be an agnostic theist but my scientific mind sometimes takes the reigns and says fuck it all. Then I watch freyia norling and I'm a believer again. I'm constantly here and there. Completely torn in half about it all.
I can't be the only person who believes, but doesn't, it's not that I'm "just" spiritual, I do believe something is likely there, but I'm struggling with it... eh. Am I alone here?
I was raised in the Baptist church but my dad also taught me to be an Omist. There is truth in all religions and faith systems. There is no one true religion. This channel is my first deep dive into the older beliefs than the Abrahamic religions.
i love your new look
Very interesting topic, we are actually doing a project with a researcher of thursian practices Undirheimar..
I dont know but it seems like central part of video was repeated.
Thrusutru seems like trying crop the rope of karma and fly away after death
It all came from the guy behind the swedish black metal band arckanum who basically made the beliefs of dissection and watain into a more norse version
From this video and your Rokatru video I'm left wondering if a path exists to engage and experience the paganism of my ancestors. You say that the knowledge available to us is so corrupted by medieval Christianity that we can't be sure what is true. You have also said that Western minds are so captured by our collective Christian consciousness that we can't grasp the principles of the old ways. Given that I can see why some would be attracted to an alacarte philosophy combining elements of gnosticism and Satanism. You are a gifted teacher and an acknowledged subject matter expert. I believe the beginning of the end for animism and true paganism began when man stepped outside of nature and left the hunter-gatherer lifestyle and entered into an agrarian one. And over the centuries he begin to rely less and less on nature to where he didn't need nature anymore. Or at least he felt that way. And along with that came cities in towns and the monotheistic religions we have today. Which are authoritarian hierarchical and aggressively expansionist. I seek to wipe that all away in my thinking and engage more on an indigenous level with shamanism. The Earth denying religions of brought us to the point where we have taken what we want from the earth and not given back. And now we find ourselves beginning to pay the price for our arrogance.
It's impossible to describe God. All religions are just metaphor. It doesn't mean the spirits don't exist. It's just that we can't truly explain them. So good luck with that.
Thanks for what you do.
I'm liking the new look, now you must braid your beard and give us a video about norse beards 😂
I loved the part about racism, asides from all of it of course. I had a chat with some people from the Vodou community and I find they are folkish, they are a closed group and do the exact opposite of what Asatru is trying to do, i.e the Troth and TAC. Spirit has no color. This is such a limited and ignorant view and I'm glad you mentioned it and dealth with it in the proper fashion. Racism has no pert in spirituality and is a 3D concept acceptable only to unenlightened and closed minds, minds that are focused on immediate surroundings instead of the bounty of enlightenment that the cosmos holds. Racism is pathetic.
tell that to evola lol
Maybe you didn't read Ekortu's books and so totally missed the parts on animism? Ekortu clearly talks about and even underlines the importance of animism within Thursatru as the spirits in nature have a huge roll within their sorcery. They believe that the 'troll' spirits are directly descendants of the thurses and that the 'troll' spirits are trapped in nature, and so being 'close' to us humans. Why do think Thursatruar give offerings to the tree spirits before they harvest (explained to be a strict tradition)? Why do you think they give offerings to the spirits of the woods when they enter the forest, or giving food and coins to the Tomte, or giving libation to the water spirits before fishing or collecting water, or give offerings to the gate-keeper when they enter cemeteries, etc... ANIMISM IS VERY IMPORTANT within Thursatru. Pro tip, read Ekortu's book Svartkonst and learn about the importance of animism within their path.
Interesting, I'll check that one you mentioned, thank you.
I was wondering the same thing. I am half Hungarian so I know we also do the tree rituals. We have places we go, sacred groves of sorts. It is part of that anti- cosmic element . If you think about it, the way Christian people treat the Earth, it behooves us to do the opposite as Satanist.
From my limited understanding I figured nationalism would happen in Paganism on a smaller scale, the community. That especially when times are hard you prioritize feeding your neighbors over feeding the world. You would defend your neighborhood and community before traveling miles to defend strangers. Not that you couldn't trade with strangers or would actively harm them, but you should support your friends and help with their problems first.
Yeah, that was the only part of this that I took exception to. Naught in animism precludes in-group preference-indeed, it even promotes it as a self-preservation function.
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Thank you for this video! I'll be sharing it a lot. I have tried over and over to explain to people to spend more time developing a relationship with nature spirits and ancestors. So many still feel the need to put a Christian order on the gods and goddesses. World denying and world accepting view explanations were excellent. Oh, by the way, wasn't expecting the new look but it suits you. ☺
Now you look like a real viking , Arith
Love your stuff kick on love it
"Supernatural ecosystem." Very intriguing term indeed ;-)
Can you do a video on Jotnartrü?
Well researched and presented
Excellent presentation...cheers 🤘🏼⚡️🤘🏼
Does the manifestation from will and intent come from the source of Ginnungagap?
bro i'm looking for meaning of some mythology symboles can you help me plz??
I'm learning so much from you
Ty, it is beautifully explained