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Good content but you are going to need a team behind and in lower mmr it’s not gonna happen. As a main ursa I’m very touched by this and I think you should have talked about battlefury as well because you can recover from not being able to gank alone Also, you could have talked about cliff skipping with the q and when to use enrage (pudge dismember etc..) a little bit more I’m not flaming you, and sorry if it sounds offrnsive Anyway, thanks for being the best dota content creator!
@@georgepapa1938 How long ago was that? I started playing about 5-6 years ago and Ursa ult gave like 3x fury swipe damage and Viper w gave you more right click damage against low hp hero's
Aghs on Ursa is good against Void if he targets you in chrono. You can use the Enrage while inside which makes it impossible for him to kill you or do stupid amounts of dmg
Also just a good tip to add and get a habit of is popping overpower in advance so that when you jump in for a kill, overpower will be off cd again and can do another 6 attacks in succession. Because overpower buff has longer duration than it’s cd.
This so much. I play a good amount of Ursa and it's always devastatingly painful to see Ursas that don't jump into a fight with their overpower stacks already up and about to come off cd again.
Damn BSJ great guide. Your hero guides are so cool, I learn a lot indirectly about the game in general as well. Those must be so much work. Thank you so much.
Theres alot of commentary in the beginning I thought was good to get the fundamentals of ursa but I have a lot of thoughts to share on this hero: #1 I find that playing ursa by inventory slot is never enough especially vs a versatile team where I have to deal with invis, evasion, or illusions. #2 I think that Wind ranger is my #1 enemy hands down, because I'm not killing that hero any time soon since its the only hero that has 100% evasion at any level. Wind ranger is also a great early ganker meaning by the time I'm ready to fight the wind ranger with a MKB, the WR is already farmed as well with possibly invis. #3 I agree that hitting your target is the most important thing but I also think that continuos combos is key to URSA. You did not mention how to use empower properly. Regardless if using blink or the diffusal slow. If you're going for a gank you want to preemptively turn on empower. Especially with an abyssal blade. What you can do is, blink in. with empowered fury swipes later game, and hit him 9 times and watch the stun meter. the moment the stun meter is almost over you hit him with the abyssal to extend the stun and empower again to scratch him 9 more times back to back. Peksy heroes that like to hide in the back like sniper, pugna, lina, drow, silencer. Not many can handle 18 back to back swipes from ursa with the abyssal extension. So in summary you really don't have enough item slots to handle them all. I usually try to avoid playing ursa in a game against illusion heroes so that I can omit battle fury because you really don't have much room for it. Shoes|Basher or Abyssal|Blink is already half your arsenal and those are staples. If you play without shoes late game its hard to triple kill. You still need 1 slot for dust for pesky invis rats You still need 1 slot for at least a morbid mask to roshan (hopefully your team can find a paladin sword, sad its the only real lifesteal neutral) You still need 1 slot for BKB, Linkens, MKB You still need 1 slot to temporarily hold your aegis. I usually swap our my morbid mask late if no room. When it gets really late, I try to sneak up on invis heroes and perform my back to back abyssal combo and kill them before they can invis out. The same applies for hard to kill heroes like Slark, Dark willow, and Sladar that really wants to bash me back. I might swap out the blink for a silver's edge late because of the crit damage and the break ability against certain heroes like Bristle.
I'm a 4.9k carry player and still learned so much, particularly in the midgame mindset and when to play around your team or when you can get your team to play around you
all that into consideration viper offlane seems like a really good hero to shut down ursa, disables fury swipes with break, can kite him to death with infinite slows and could build halberd if he wants to.
BSJ, thank you yet another educational video on one of the hardest, saltiest and sometimes enjoyable game that there is. I am trying to implement the knowledge that you placed in these videos to my play style but I have a question regarding when you discuss the phase or power boots buy. How do you know that they are gonna trade and not go on you??? In the game against spirit breaker/bs you didn’t go phase because that is not a lane where they go on you? I am confused… Thank You!
In other videos he talks about lane matchups, as a carry you either face a harass/trade lane or a kill lane based on their skills. something like witch doctor slardar is extremely kill, while something like ogre venomancer is very harass/trade.
My Ursa game is either an easy win or a devastating loss. I once tried buying battle fury when I was losing, but it turned out to be the wrong choice. Although, small decisions like leveling overpower first, not buying mask of death, buying wind lace instead of orb of venom might have been the answer. Hopefully I can put all this knowledge into practice.
BSJ I'm a little confused. Pretty much at the 1:00:00 mark you talk about how good it was that you went in and had your team waste spells on you so tinker could wipe them, and I agree. But just a couple minutes before that you got done saying how important it was for you to recognize that *tinker was itemizing to go in first*, so you wanted to itemize to follow him into fights. So these two ideas seem to be at odds with eachother? 🤷♂️
Basically what he is saying is, if you have a farming mid which is most of the time when you pick Ursa, it is important for you to play as position 2. You will take fights whenever the mid wanna fight, just like how you will follow a position 1. Tank spells and let the carry do the work. Ursa is a hero you almost never pick unless you can make sure you can snowball or make space for your farming mid like medusa.
@@flashnimi but his reason for itemizing that way was stated as going in after the mid, then he takes this whole team fight and expends the enemies resources first for the Tinker. Seems contradictory
Skadi or abyssal on ursa? Skadi feels good cause attacks constantly slow enemies allowing ursa to land more hits but abyssal gives a reliable lockdown and fast nuke. I personally like skadi but i find myself buying abyssal more often. When is 1 better than the other or when to buy both?
It can depend a lot on the opposition lineup and what you need in order to chomp on them. I.e a skadi won't do shit to an AM who can just blink away from you.
since ursa is so fight dependant, wouldn't it be great to play a 2k smurf game with this hero? I imagine it would be very challenging to win a game like that
Thanks for the surprise guide; I recently played a game of ursa (2,1k shitpub) and rather than build to overwhelm with diffu and bkb, I built to take shit and eat everything the enemy team could throw at me. I had a mid sf and an offlane bloodseeker so I felt that I could get away with building for durability rather than rushdown. idk how well these guides hold up in the shit pit where none of us know what game we're playing but I'm down to try the diffu build you're pushing
BSJ, when playing against illusions heroes as Slark, would you ever consider going Battlefury? I usually go Mjollnir but tried it once and it kicked butt. Thanks for the videos.
in my opinion i would say mjolnir is better. you can self-cast it. it gives attack speed, which slark benefits from a lot, and illusions are not gonna be a problem anymore with all that lightning.
Every single one of your hero talent selections is the opposite of what has the highest winrate on dotabuff. Can you comment on that? +20s fury swipe at level 10 has a +8% winrate..... level 15 agility is +9.6%, status resistance at level 20 is +1.5%... can you also comment on how heavily we should read into the winrates on the various talents?
Highest winrate doesn't mean it's the best. A lot of the times, you select that when you're already winning so you take the talent so that you're even further ahead. Take for example the -20s healing ward talent on jugg (+13% WR) you take it when you're ahead and can just push for the win
@@ShunIzaki Jugg is my main, and as BSJ says in his Jugg guide, there's basically no instance ever where you would not take it... so that's a really poor example used to try to explain your point. Could you try again? I don't really understand what you're saying... my talent selections are literally never based on whether we are winning or losing... I only play 1 and 2 though. It's always based purely off who I'm playing against.
Great content, I watched all of it and is very detailed. One thing I would add, from personal experience, is that you need to be disciplined when going HG with Ursa. You can and should provide vision for your team by running in first with enrage several times, but this can also backfire if you over play it... Just a final hint I think is an important part of the hero
@@barkond each time you hit them it deals damage based on the stack count - first hit is 1 stack, second hit adds another so it's hitting for 2, third hit adds another stack so it's hitting for 3 (6 instances at this point). By the time you hit them six times you've hit them with 21 instances of fury swipes.
I am not a ursa player, but this helped me a lot to understand how ursa gameplay is. not a long ago, an enemy ursa was leveling our team to the ground, I was playing slardar, he never run into me, but I was preparing to counter ursa, I was playing position 2, I built deso and assualt curiass, at late game I got a good chance to stack my ult Twice on him, I literally killed him in four shot. Slardar is a great counter against Ursa
i learned a lot about Ursa with this video...and i still don't like him 😓 you need a very specific team setup to play with him or against him. Last day i had an Ursa against me he picked ursa after i picked Siren, and well manta+travel boots, i literally owned the game with well timed split push with my team taking the majority of fights and me just ult every now and then to save them or reset the fight. However because of me playing away from my team and pretty much pushing lanes 24/7 Ursa did had a realy nice game (they gave up aeround 30min mark);nonetheless he finished the game without feeding or playing stupid and i was impressed ,but i still dont like him as core .
Absolutely disagree. He has few enough illusions that it's easy to pick him out of them and fury swipe him to death and you can survive his reality rift/chaos bolt burst easily with enrage.
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Good content but you are going to need a team behind and in lower mmr it’s not gonna happen.
As a main ursa I’m very touched by this and I think you should have talked about battlefury as well because you can recover from not being able to gank alone
Also, you could have talked about cliff skipping with the q and when to use enrage (pudge dismember etc..) a little bit more
I’m not flaming you, and sorry if it sounds offrnsive
Anyway, thanks for being the best dota content creator!
A free one-hour guide. Very grateful BSJ!
He is actually him ❤
Thanks BSJ, now I'm gonna have a feeding Ursa on my team every game
Jokes aside, great guide, I watched it in its entirety
Don’t worry yoinwill feed anyways and lose cuz your herald
red guy I suggest you just ignore this pathetic excuse of a troll.
Remembering the days when you went straight Vlads on Ursa lvl 9 for Roshan
The attack modifier days
remember the days when u'd just rush morbid mask and kite rosh at lvl 5 lol
Remembering the days enrage had x2.5 fury swipes damage on lvl 18 :D.
Remembering the days that Ursa's ultimate gave u a percentage dps of your max life? Vanguard first item and tanky bully, totally broken
@@georgepapa1938 How long ago was that? I started playing about 5-6 years ago and Ursa ult gave like 3x fury swipe damage and Viper w gave you more right click damage against low hp hero's
Aghs on Ursa is good against Void if he targets you in chrono. You can use the Enrage while inside which makes it impossible for him to kill you or do stupid amounts of dmg
I'll test if this stills works. Its kinda stupid. Chrono and Black Whole should stop anything
^ void player
Ty my man! Always improving our community!
Man I can't wait for bsj to make a hero guide for all 122 heroes
Also just a good tip to add and get a habit of is popping overpower in advance so that when you jump in for a kill, overpower will be off cd again and can do another 6 attacks in succession. Because overpower buff has longer duration than it’s cd.
This so much. I play a good amount of Ursa and it's always devastatingly painful to see Ursas that don't jump into a fight with their overpower stacks already up and about to come off cd again.
Damn BSJ great guide. Your hero guides are so cool, I learn a lot indirectly about the game in general as well. Those must be so much work. Thank you so much.
How old are you?
Me: Ursa gain percentage of his max hp as damage when using ulty
Theres alot of commentary in the beginning I thought was good to get the fundamentals of ursa but I have a lot of thoughts to share on this hero:
#1 I find that playing ursa by inventory slot is never enough especially vs a versatile team where I have to deal with invis, evasion, or illusions.
#2 I think that Wind ranger is my #1 enemy hands down, because I'm not killing that hero any time soon since its the only hero that has 100% evasion at any level.
Wind ranger is also a great early ganker meaning by the time I'm ready to fight the wind ranger with a MKB, the WR is already farmed as well with possibly invis.
#3 I agree that hitting your target is the most important thing but I also think that continuos combos is key to URSA. You did not mention how to use empower properly.
Regardless if using blink or the diffusal slow. If you're going for a gank you want to preemptively turn on empower. Especially with an abyssal blade.
What you can do is, blink in. with empowered fury swipes later game, and hit him 9 times and watch the stun meter. the moment the stun meter is almost over you hit him with the abyssal to extend the stun and empower again to scratch him 9 more times back to back. Peksy heroes that like to hide in the back like sniper, pugna, lina, drow, silencer.
Not many can handle 18 back to back swipes from ursa with the abyssal extension.
So in summary you really don't have enough item slots to handle them all.
I usually try to avoid playing ursa in a game against illusion heroes so that I can omit battle fury because you really don't have much room for it.
Shoes|Basher or Abyssal|Blink is already half your arsenal and those are staples. If you play without shoes late game its hard to triple kill.
You still need 1 slot for dust for pesky invis rats
You still need 1 slot for at least a morbid mask to roshan (hopefully your team can find a paladin sword, sad its the only real lifesteal neutral)
You still need 1 slot for BKB, Linkens, MKB
You still need 1 slot to temporarily hold your aegis. I usually swap our my morbid mask late if no room.
When it gets really late, I try to sneak up on invis heroes and perform my back to back abyssal combo and kill them before they can invis out.
The same applies for hard to kill heroes like Slark, Dark willow, and Sladar that really wants to bash me back.
I might swap out the blink for a silver's edge late because of the crit damage and the break ability against certain heroes like Bristle.
thank you for your educational content. Its not easy to play like that in guardian/crusader, but it helps alot
I'm a 4.9k carry player and still learned so much, particularly in the midgame mindset and when to play around your team or when you can get your team to play around you
Highly recommend to every dota enthusiast
Just played my first game of Ursa, and maybe I was lucky but it went really well.
Great videos dude - your guides are always super informative! Especially for a noob :)
all that into consideration viper offlane seems like a really good hero to shut down ursa, disables fury swipes with break, can kite him to death with infinite slows and could build halberd if he wants to.
BSJ, thank you yet another educational video on one of the hardest, saltiest and sometimes enjoyable game that there is. I am trying to implement the knowledge that you placed in these videos to my play style but I have a question regarding when you discuss the phase or power boots buy. How do you know that they are gonna trade and not go on you??? In the game against spirit breaker/bs you didn’t go phase because that is not a lane where they go on you? I am confused… Thank You!
bruh just play the game.hillarious.
In other videos he talks about lane matchups, as a carry you either face a harass/trade lane or a kill lane based on their skills. something like witch doctor slardar is extremely kill, while something like ogre venomancer is very harass/trade.
dude this was amazing!! thank you I learned so much! Just wish you had spoken through a losing game :)
My Ursa game is either an easy win or a devastating loss. I once tried buying battle fury when I was losing, but it turned out to be the wrong choice. Although, small decisions like leveling overpower first, not buying mask of death, buying wind lace instead of orb of venom might have been the answer. Hopefully I can put all this knowledge into practice.
Those videos are great! Would like you could do more of these and also a smurf series (from harold to 9k)
Go to his profile and look through the playlists bud.
Who is Harold?
my first game with ursa, at all and after this guide, i went 25-3 in a pub. im herald 4. thanks bsj.
Thanks for the content! Time for a battle fury ursa guide with these recent buffs??
then i always go for basher.. it is the point against enemies. then u have the advantage
BSJ the Guide-Master.
Love the content wow, I know it’s 7.33c now but is it still as easy to solo rosh as early as you did during this patch? Thanks again BSJ !
great vid. thanks. now. could you do a vid on avoiding hard supports going full carry mode? :D I'm having this problem repeatedly.
Great guide. What do you think about skadi or SnY
Is orb of venom a good starting item for ursa? Just curious.
Thanks for the guide, where are the prices of your service for coaching and replay analysis?
29:40 A true gigachad courier delivers items in the middle of a teamfight
watching an ursa guide to know how to counter ursa as a support xD
more power to you bro 💪🏻
Awesome video. Please do a PA guide next!
Thank you for the content, the best content creator out there and you really do help a lot!!
BSJ I'm a little confused. Pretty much at the 1:00:00 mark you talk about how good it was that you went in and had your team waste spells on you so tinker could wipe them, and I agree. But just a couple minutes before that you got done saying how important it was for you to recognize that *tinker was itemizing to go in first*, so you wanted to itemize to follow him into fights. So these two ideas seem to be at odds with eachother? 🤷♂️
Basically what he is saying is, if you have a farming mid which is most of the time when you pick Ursa, it is important for you to play as position 2. You will take fights whenever the mid wanna fight, just like how you will follow a position 1. Tank spells and let the carry do the work. Ursa is a hero you almost never pick unless you can make sure you can snowball or make space for your farming mid like medusa.
I think he was talking more about why he itemised aggressively (blink before BKB) instead of the order you go into fights.
@@flashnimi but his reason for itemizing that way was stated as going in after the mid, then he takes this whole team fight and expends the enemies resources first for the Tinker. Seems contradictory
Skadi or abyssal on ursa? Skadi feels good cause attacks constantly slow enemies allowing ursa to land more hits but abyssal gives a reliable lockdown and fast nuke. I personally like skadi but i find myself buying abyssal more often. When is 1 better than the other or when to buy both?
It can depend a lot on the opposition lineup and what you need in order to chomp on them. I.e a skadi won't do shit to an AM who can just blink away from you.
Abysal first and then selling diffu for skadi. But for hero with high mobility dont buy skadi
since ursa is so fight dependant, wouldn't it be great to play a 2k smurf game with this hero? I imagine it would be very challenging to win a game like that
Hi BSJ, I was wondering going df on ursa is still worth it?
is the reset timer on fury swipe makes it harder to do roshan now?
does windwaker work the same as euls?
Guys do you remember when Ursa's ult was like "Deals 5%hp of MAX health (not current) as dmg", oh my the 4 HoT blink bkb build was so imba.
Thanks for the surprise guide; I recently played a game of ursa (2,1k shitpub) and rather than build to overwhelm with diffu and bkb, I built to take shit and eat everything the enemy team could throw at me. I had a mid sf and an offlane bloodseeker so I felt that I could get away with building for durability rather than rushdown. idk how well these guides hold up in the shit pit where none of us know what game we're playing but I'm down to try the diffu build you're pushing
vs sf bs shoul be an ez win
I’m an ursa main and this was so informative.
Could you please make an other PL guide? he received many changes in the last couple of patches please :) Thank you.
Wowww so awesome, thanks lot BSJ!!!
I hope bsj keep creating this type of videos
BSJ, when playing against illusions heroes as Slark, would you ever consider going Battlefury? I usually go Mjollnir but tried it once and it kicked butt. Thanks for the videos.
in my opinion i would say mjolnir is better. you can self-cast it. it gives attack speed, which slark benefits from a lot, and illusions are not gonna be a problem anymore with all that lightning.
I love bsj bro you a legend! Kind bsj is the best bsj
i remember the first patch of that mini jump. was up against ursa and snapfire in lane. it wasn't fun.
Ursa with aghs is my favorite fv counter
thanks bsj.. i usually go phase morbid blink basher, but i'll try diffu!
u have to play ursa as the only one
Can't wait for the next hero guide
Every single one of your hero talent selections is the opposite of what has the highest winrate on dotabuff. Can you comment on that? +20s fury swipe at level 10 has a +8% winrate..... level 15 agility is +9.6%, status resistance at level 20 is +1.5%... can you also comment on how heavily we should read into the winrates on the various talents?
Highest winrate doesn't mean it's the best. A lot of the times, you select that when you're already winning so you take the talent so that you're even further ahead. Take for example the -20s healing ward talent on jugg (+13% WR) you take it when you're ahead and can just push for the win
@@ShunIzaki Jugg is my main, and as BSJ says in his Jugg guide, there's basically no instance ever where you would not take it... so that's a really poor example used to try to explain your point. Could you try again? I don't really understand what you're saying... my talent selections are literally never based on whether we are winning or losing... I only play 1 and 2 though. It's always based purely off who I'm playing against.
This is a very nice video. Gj bsj
Honestly very helpful
Great video man
Free one hour guide bsj you are a fucking legend bro
Fury swipes is a great skill on a ranged hero.
Feels like most of this overpower math is redundant when you initiate you can easily double overpower. Duration is alot longer then CD
man that magnus/marci lane was extremely tough
Brewmaster is also fantastic against Ursa aswell.
I wish your Drow guide was this good
It's Lens Tinker actually.
Quality material, letssgoo!!
Great content, I watched all of it and is very detailed. One thing I would add, from personal experience, is that you need to be disciplined when going HG with Ursa. You can and should provide vision for your team by running in first with enrage several times, but this can also backfire if you over play it... Just a final hint I think is an important part of the hero
The ursa vs mag and marci is the video of when u taught us when to buy raindrops video
This was uploaded the same day I lost a game as ursa just hours ago lol
Thank you BSJ.
The best content.
thank u coach B
Can someone please explain how BSJ gets to 21 instances of fury swipes?
Because there's 6 strikes from overpower, he's calculating fury swipes damage based on a full set of overpower attacks.
@@felixyuen8225 yes, but where did he get other 15?
@@barkond each time you hit them it deals damage based on the stack count - first hit is 1 stack, second hit adds another so it's hitting for 2, third hit adds another stack so it's hitting for 3 (6 instances at this point). By the time you hit them six times you've hit them with 21 instances of fury swipes.
@@NickoBaggins got it, thank you!
Also be careful of Techies as well. They’ll usually plant remote bombs in RP specially if they know what Ursa does.
I am not a ursa player, but this helped me a lot to understand how ursa gameplay is. not a long ago, an enemy ursa was leveling our team to the ground, I was playing slardar, he never run into me, but I was preparing to counter ursa, I was playing position 2, I built deso and assualt curiass, at late game I got a good chance to stack my ult Twice on him, I literally killed him in four shot. Slardar is a great counter against Ursa
Nice guide bsj thanks
Keep it PMA, keep it BSJ
BSJ: as long as you have enrage it is almost impossible to die.
Me who died 13 times: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ...interesting
gale as in galeforce?
Sweet guide
I AM ready to play some ursa now
23:52 killed by chappie, the ruiner hehe
thank you bsj for making a guide about my favorite hero, but could you not mute the game audio completely? just leave it a bit up in the future please
i think u can aghs enrage legionduel and blaxk hole. even in chronosphere
U can in chrono not the other two
im ursa player too and this video is top content
I dont understand the Diffusial,when you have a dagger and basher .Isn't better to go BF+dagger+basher instead of Diffusial ?
Yes its here. Love these guides keep up the hard work. [+]
PA counters Ursa also because the priority of getting MKB on ursa is very low
Ty man love yah 👍👍👍👍
i learned a lot about Ursa with this video...and i still don't like him 😓
you need a very specific team setup to play with him or against him.
Last day i had an Ursa against me he picked ursa after i picked Siren, and well manta+travel boots, i literally owned the game with well timed split push with my team taking the majority of fights and me just ult every now and then to save them or reset the fight.
However because of me playing away from my team and pretty much pushing lanes 24/7 Ursa did had a realy nice game (they gave up aeround 30min mark);nonetheless he finished the game without feeding or playing stupid and i was impressed ,but i still dont like him as core .
I always play with pt,morbid,basher, blink and aegis in 20mins
tinker won the match. thank you bsj
Just great!
I think u gained 3k subs after this guide
I see bsj i click. Doesn't matter if its 1 min or i hour
This guy has the Ursa hat :O
Should add CK to the list of counters. Half the networth CK just murders ursa with relative ease entire game.
Absolutely disagree. He has few enough illusions that it's easy to pick him out of them and fury swipe him to death and you can survive his reality rift/chaos bolt burst easily with enrage.
YES AMEN!!!! THANK YOU BSJ HUHU i got 25% winrate with over 40 games i'm so bad huhu
bsj u should try atos ursa trust me
its good
Hi BSJ God did you play LoL before? :D
Think echo sabre goes well with Ursa?
no bro, it would basically be a weaker version of diffusal
Thanks bsj
i love u bsj