Jugger Guide: ua-cam.com/video/U88qmhU67A4/v-deo.html Slark Guide: ua-cam.com/video/aa9EYKLch8Q/v-deo.html LC Guide: ua-cam.com/video/LHoQwpJj1TI/v-deo.html Morph Guide: ua-cam.com/video/RtRacaCRS5w/v-deo.html TB Guide: ua-cam.com/video/zclFSz8l7IA/v-deo.html0:00 Armor video mentioned: ua-cam.com/video/yNAvoTF8d7E/v-deo.html Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 0:40 Mason Slardar Highlights 0:50 What Slardar Does and What He Doesn't Do 1:22 Why Slardar Is Not A Carry 1:41 Defining Slardar's Utility 2:46 Itemization (Part 1 - Early Game) 4:45 Pick Slardar vs. These Supports 4:56 Do Not Pick Slardar vs. These Supports 5:32 The Prime Example of an Offlaner That Wants to be Close to Their Tower 6:32 Do Not Pick Slardar vs. These Carries 6:51 Pick Slardar vs. These Carries 7:24 Slardar's Weaknesses 7:49 How to Level Your Spells (Part 1) 8:32 How to Dominate the Offlane During Laning Stage 10:13 Treads vs. Phase Boots - Which One Should You Choose? 10:30 How to Level Your Spells (Part 2) 11:14 Taking Advantage of the Deadlane 13:27 Itemization (Part 2 - Mid Game) 14:25 The Single Most Game Changing Item for an Offlaner in Dota 2 15:13 How to Recover in a Losing Game As Slardar 16:42 How to Approach Teamfights 18:14 Pick Slardar With These Heroes 19:16 Itemization (Part 3 - Late Game) 20:39 Talents 21:38 Horrosive Haze & Armor + Corruption Discussion 23:23 Do Not Pick Slardar vs. These Offlaners 24:03 Prepping Your Bash 24:43 Timings & Objectives 25:47 Roshan 26:00 Advanced Tips & Tricks 29:53 Conclusion and Parting Words
BSJ! Love your content, but please dont turn your "noice gate" or voice activation on when there is a background noice. Our brains can filter constant noice but can't handle turning it on and off :) Keep up the great job! Thanks!
Love the guide, think the general example you've picked is a good way for people like me to see how theory gets executed. Also, love the way you build up towards spesific items by first talking about your objectives and playstyle rather than the typical other way. Also, thanks for not spending 10 minutes going through what his skills do.
Is echo sabre really that bad, i mean it increases kill potential and makes u more of a threat on the map, gives mana regen & attack speed, feels like it has more value than drums in the mid-> late game (once ur out of charges)
Man, I love this guide! I've been trying to make slardar work for so long - and this has helped me understand so many of the concepts as to why I felt like I never had enough impact. I've been playing it either too unselfishly (aoe items) or too selfish as a carry and farming
Hey BSJ! Love the content! Trying to cover all areas tho! You said what you would buy against a melee lane, or vs a lane where you're not afraid to run at them. But what if they're ranged and you are afraid to run after them? Lots of sustain, armor and movmentspeed? Cheers~
Those expression From ❤️@BSJ❤️ God you 🔥killed🔥 it. (20:24)There are games in which you have to play selfishly and on slardar you are playing unselfishly by playing selfishly. (27:14)The thing about slardar he never gets right clicked. 🙏Thanks🙏 for the Video and also the editor hard work of putting time stamp strider.
70% win rate on slardar over 200 games. My thoughts: I almost always buy treads over phase boots unless I really need the armor. I always buy an additional gloves of haste after treads and wand. The extra attack speed for getting your bash off is massive. After this I almost always rush an Ags usually by buying ogre axe then blade of alacrity. I usually buy bkb after ags and then blink unless I’m against a sniper or a puck in which case I’ll get blink before bkb. Favorite supports to pair with are grimstroke, ogre, treeant and ogre/lion. Worst matchups are vs troll and pa because the evasion griefs the bash.
Great guide. So in depth and detailed. Thank you for talking about echo Sabre 👍🏼 Also.... what is the background piano music at the end of all your videos? Does it have a name?
Awesome guide man. Looking forward to another guide. Quick question: taking opponent tier 1-2 towers are important, but what to do after that ? Warding opponent jungle- more map control- taking rosh ? What is the key thing to do after taking down their tower? Newb question. Tks
Once u take their t2, take their outpost and ward their jungle. Then never touch ur jungle jus farm their jungle and push the waves. Later secure kill rossh and seige hg. Ez game
I really think if Dota had more guides like these the game would be hella more approachable and pleasant to play on all levels, Dota needs content like this to keep breathing
Absolute, brilliant offlane guide on Slardar, seeing I play offlane and love picking him! Haha, I have been going Echo Saber all this time. I'll be looking for Aghs, blink, AC from now on. Drums if I am feeling a little rough around the edges and perhaps Midas, if feeling comfortable before going Aghs blink. Only thing about Midas is, it does nothing for sustain and like you said it need to be a very comfortable game to do this.
Echo on Slardar is really tempting tho, like really really really tempting. Like, the double hit, mana regen, and stats. But the thing which makes me agree about questioning echo is the timing. Slardar has slow farming speed altho not bad attack speed thanks to treads, but yeah the farming still kinda slow. I just think that making echo just delaying his dagger timing really really lot. Maybe another bracer for stats if needed or drums then dagger is much better.
The information you give us is priceless man really thank you a lot. My main position is offlane and with your advice I managed to become a better player. BSJ ftw!!
I learned Slardar doesn't get right clicked the hardway when I bought a blademail because of DK stunning me for 10 years, all it did was keep them from hitting me while I was stunned and instead focusing on my teammates which isn't exactly ideal lol
Slardar wr combo for pos3,4 is broken rn. Slardar amp and wr's ff deletes anyone mid game. Plus shackle and slardar's kit as a whole makes the laning part very ez
Please keep posting offlane guides. As one of the most misunderstood roles in the game, I think your insight is helping to bring it into focus for many people.
I was spamming slardar a few patches ago cuz that’s what I felt comfortable on since then I’ve switched to mainly mars but now it seems like ima have to pick slardar back up :)
Ammar seems to always build mask of madness on slardar so he can farm more (especially ancient) before buying blink and i find in my case i can dominate the laning stage but when the carry hide deep inside his jungle then i can't pressure him because his team will just tele and arrive before we can and i start losing networth compare to their pos1 because i can't farm without mom
Unselfish items, ah the reason I lose most of the time, somehow pos 4 keeps going damage items hahah. SEA not only competitive against enemies but also vs allies. Great guide man
What about echo sabre instead of midas for the games where you are doing good? More stats, sustain and helps farm jungle camps faster and also helps you burst people.
well this is an old guide but i feel like axe does everything better than slardar but serves the same purpose. blink initiator, slardar may have more utility in that he has sprint and amp for true sight and - armor but axe has a BKB piercing aoe disable... axe also way better at farming and better at pushing waves/taking towers and is way harder to lane against, also axe can cut waves quite easily, he can just do a lot more imo
Actually Slardar x Naga matchup /midgame/early lategame is quite difficult. Cast time on naga is very slow, so if slardars goes treads, echosabre + one more AS item (or upgrades into silveredge) like midas or maelstorm you get permabashed if your hero has long cast time. I had higher networth at that point of the game by 2-3k lead on him still I could not man up. I had this encounter twice. I did join teamfight lately so I can help team I got three kills out of it and tried to man up at 90% HP against 60% hp slardar. I dispeled haze with manta and had illusions attacking him as well. I died in both games twice at this stage of game. I had treads,manta,diffusal + pointbooster+ultimate orb for skadi and I died to slardar with treads, midas, sabre. He easily identified which one is real me with crush and I could not cast shit or outrun him. there was like 0.6 second window of me not being bashed. from start of encounter to my death (bash, 3 hits, crush, 3 hits, bash, 3 hits bash). Guaranteed bash with 200dmg on lvl7 when heroes (not naga) but others have basic armor it hurts like a truck. This is what makes him strong, specially fact that he can manfide anything with treads, echosabre. Later on he was easily kited, burned out of mana and died to nothing, but at that stage he really shines. My winrate on slardar is 5-1 since august, counters BKB users
Then don't fight with Slardar as Naga. Naga doesn't like to participate in fights. Her idea is to split the map, get six slotted and then fight. If slardar spots your hero, I guess you are playing Naga wrong. Try to play away from fights. In this case, rushing manta instead of diffusal is good, since you want to dispel his corrosive haze. The best thing about Naga(compared to other non illusion heroes) is you can farm really fast with your illusions and slardar can't really stop you from doing that. Get 6 slotted by 30 minutes and wreck them.
Although I agree with most of the tips, I disagree on the echo sabre rant. The thing is that most of the dota guides online are done by very good high mmr players that play in games where there is A LOT of team effort. Like A LOT. At low mmr, people don't know about timing, they dont call shots, they dont help you or gang up. So strats that apply at high mmr not necessarily apply at low. Echo sabre is a perfect exemple on slardar. It is a little bit less expensive than vlads, it slows on bash, double hit every so often which boost your bash potential AND gives mana regen which slardar desperatly need. I can't count how many times I killed a target due to the double attack from echo sabre before he escape me. Vlads keeps me alive but doesn't help me kill at all. And like you said, I'm not suppose to be the one killing (or doing the damage) but at crusader-archon rank and below you have to sometime, cuz no one comes for help. You can always trade it later for something more team oriented.
What about if the team Needs a break item, like silver edge. Slardar is not a bad hero to build it, if the hc/mid cannot. Usually, against specter/bb. If I don’t have anyone to break their passives, I build it.
My teammates blammed me bcause i didnt get pipe, i bought bkb. They think, if you are an offlaner pipe or hood is a must if the enemies' damage is mostly magical.
bsj, how about stacking moonshards to get below a 0.3 attack time (permalock)? you ever tested that build? at around 2 moonshards you can just permalock anyone
Mjolnir for farming? In that case midas is better. Mjolnir for dealing damage to enemy heroes? BSJ already explained why it's not Slardar's job to deal damage.
@@samataldazharov9394 i don't know if you read my message/question I clearly understood the video entirely. The question is mjollnir for WAVE CLEAR in long games
do you think echo into silveredge or orchid/bkb (depends on the game) viable for slardar? I mean echo is not really a complete damage item. double hit is a free hit for your bash with an extra control before the bash. it gives you some mana reg which is nice especially since you got mana in sprint. and it gives some health as well. treads into blink into echo sounds good for quick pickups
lol free hit for bash.. someone’s confused. Last time I checked and tried that, it never worked. It doesn’t count it. I believe this applies to certain other things too.
@@matthewshan1031 if you let it hit twice(instead of canceling the attack with the first hit) it counts for 2. I just tested to be sure if I remember wrong or not
Really good guide! Wish you'd make more guides, they are always insightfull. Also wish you'd mention neutral items for heroes (like what is the ideal items for him at the various marks, for slardar ocean heart comes to mind as potentially rly strong)
Minus armor doesn't counter armor is what i always said to people when i was at 2k mmr. If you do the math . Minus armor works best when the oppent have less than 15 or 10 armor.
I don't think you really need to make radiance on slardar to deal with PL. Your goal should be at max try to delay those heroes's diffusal timings. If there's absolutely no one in your team to deal with illusions, maybe you can consider it. But I don't think good on Slardar, since like BSJ said you don't want people to hit you. You wanna burst them down before they get a chance to hit you. Also the build up of radiance is not really nice for slardar ( if it was a brewmaster, or Omni or abandon, radiance is great since you want enemies to hit you).
I'm a little confused about why BSJ thinks Echo Sabre is bad. Doesn't Echo Sabre simply allow Slardar to Bash more often, hence enhancing his CC role? How is buying Echo Sabre on Slardar equivalent to playing the hero as the primary damage dealer? I get that buying Daedelus and Desolator implies that Slardar is doing the damage, but Echo Sabre? The item gives a plethora of mixed stats, including INT and even mana regen. Surely that can't be considered a plain-jane DPS item that gives nothing but damage?
There are some matches I don't have a clue about Slardar. I don't know how Slardar would have a lane as good as against AM when playing against PA. I have played once this lane match-up and ended up not meeting the expectation of my teammates. Did anyone get some advice for this match up?
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:40 Mason Slardar Highlights
0:50 What Slardar Does and What He Doesn't Do
1:22 Why Slardar Is Not A Carry
1:41 Defining Slardar's Utility
2:46 Itemization (Part 1 - Early Game)
4:45 Pick Slardar vs. These Supports
4:56 Do Not Pick Slardar vs. These Supports
5:32 The Prime Example of an Offlaner That Wants to be Close to Their Tower
6:32 Do Not Pick Slardar vs. These Carries
6:51 Pick Slardar vs. These Carries
7:24 Slardar's Weaknesses
7:49 How to Level Your Spells (Part 1)
8:32 How to Dominate the Offlane During Laning Stage
10:13 Treads vs. Phase Boots - Which One Should You Choose?
10:30 How to Level Your Spells (Part 2)
11:14 Taking Advantage of the Deadlane
13:27 Itemization (Part 2 - Mid Game)
14:25 The Single Most Game Changing Item for an Offlaner in Dota 2
15:13 How to Recover in a Losing Game As Slardar
16:42 How to Approach Teamfights
18:14 Pick Slardar With These Heroes
19:16 Itemization (Part 3 - Late Game)
20:39 Talents
21:38 Horrosive Haze & Armor + Corruption Discussion
23:23 Do Not Pick Slardar vs. These Offlaners
24:03 Prepping Your Bash
24:43 Timings & Objectives
25:47 Roshan
26:00 Advanced Tips & Tricks
29:53 Conclusion and Parting Words
Horrosive Haze is hreally hstrong
In your opinion, if valve made the second skill magic damage, would it be more like a buff to him or it wouldn't chsnge a lot? Love your lessons btw
BSJ! Love your content, but please dont turn your "noice gate" or voice activation on when there is a background noice. Our brains can filter constant noice but can't handle turning it on and off :) Keep up the great job! Thanks!
please don't make these every 5k, rather just eventually make one for as many heroes as possible, this is insane value BSJ
seriously
he has to weigh the benefits of making the video depending on how many people are willing to watch it
Once every 5k will soon become once every 10k. This guide was for 50k subs. He is almost 55k now.
think is, if he makes more videos maybe he will gain a lot more than 5k a video...
@@carlosjavierpalacios6194 agree! But he busy in liquid now, so yeah
Another BSJ God guide that we have been waiting for a long time...
Btw nice time stamps strider!
your very considerate time stamp in the description alone deserves a like!
"You are playing unselfish-ly by playing selfishly" Thanks for the tip
This tip was so well written ngl
fish-ly
now you can buy midas every game as offlaner!
So I can pick 5 alch right
Give this man more subs. We need all hero guides from BSJ!
Awesome, I love your guides and finally it's a hero I actually play.
I love BSJ's brutal honesty.
i agree, one time he called me a fucking retard when i asked why he picked legion commander
@@henrybottomsworth lmao wut
Love the guide, think the general example you've picked is a good way for people like me to see how theory gets executed.
Also, love the way you build up towards spesific items by first talking about your objectives and playstyle rather than the typical other way. Also, thanks for not spending 10 minutes going through what his skills do.
By far the most comprehensive guides I've seen in a long time! Thank you for taking the time in highlighting even the smallest of things!
Out of everything that you post BSJ, these videos are by far probably the most helpful after your fundamentals.
One of the best hero guides ever. Top!
Thanks! I always had a very good lane to a sad lose on slardar. I hope this solves my losing streak on slardar.
Love your strategic hero guides BSJ! Best stuff on YT
Feels nice to watch a comprehensive guide about our resident fishy boi. Thank you, sir BSJ!
Ty for this! I look forward to your hero guides like I do Christmas haha. They’re the best hero guides out there by far!
Your explanation is so good, feels like I finally understanding what Slardar does more now.
Is echo sabre really that bad, i mean it increases kill potential and makes u more of a threat on the map, gives mana regen & attack speed, feels like it has more value than drums in the mid-> late game (once ur out of charges)
10/10. Would love more guides on offlane heroes
Love your guide coach B! Keep it up!
Man, I love this guide! I've been trying to make slardar work for so long - and this has helped me understand so many of the concepts as to why I felt like I never had enough impact. I've been playing it either too unselfishly (aoe items) or too selfish as a carry and farming
at 27:16, the expression on BSJ face is like "slardar don't get right clicked trust me it true" x)
Tnx BSJ With this guide along with my Fav hero Slardar I started to gain MMR from Crusader to Legend 3
I don't play slar and don't want to but this was a great video. Maybe your best in a long time. Looking forward to more!
Hey BSJ! Love the content! Trying to cover all areas tho! You said what you would buy against a melee lane, or vs a lane where you're not afraid to run at them. But what if they're ranged and you are afraid to run after them? Lots of sustain, armor and movmentspeed? Cheers~
Legit perfection man
Keep up the god tier content.👍
Really nice video bsj :D
Those expression From ❤️@BSJ❤️ God you 🔥killed🔥 it.
(20:24)There are games in which you have to play selfishly and on slardar you are playing unselfishly by playing selfishly.
(27:14)The thing about slardar he never gets right clicked.
🙏Thanks🙏 for the Video and also the editor hard work of putting time stamp strider.
70% win rate on slardar over 200 games. My thoughts: I almost always buy treads over phase boots unless I really need the armor. I always buy an additional gloves of haste after treads and wand. The extra attack speed for getting your bash off is massive. After this I almost always rush an Ags usually by buying ogre axe then blade of alacrity. I usually buy bkb after ags and then blink unless I’m against a sniper or a puck in which case I’ll get blink before bkb. Favorite supports to pair with are grimstroke, ogre, treeant and ogre/lion. Worst matchups are vs troll and pa because the evasion griefs the bash.
Great guide. So in depth and detailed. Thank you for talking about echo Sabre 👍🏼
Also.... what is the background piano music at the end of all your videos? Does it have a name?
Awesome guide man. Looking forward to another guide. Quick question: taking opponent tier 1-2 towers are important, but what to do after that ? Warding opponent jungle- more map control- taking rosh ? What is the key thing to do after taking down their tower? Newb question. Tks
Once u take their t2, take their outpost and ward their jungle. Then never touch ur jungle jus farm their jungle and push the waves. Later secure kill rossh and seige hg. Ez game
Absolutely learned a lot. Thank you
I really think if Dota had more guides like these the game would be hella more approachable and pleasant to play on all levels, Dota needs content like this to keep breathing
Excellent in depth analysis!
BSJ, you are doing a good job.
Absolute, brilliant offlane guide on Slardar, seeing I play offlane and love picking him!
Haha, I have been going Echo Saber all this time. I'll be looking for Aghs, blink, AC from now on. Drums if I am feeling a little rough around the edges and perhaps Midas, if feeling comfortable before going Aghs blink.
Only thing about Midas is, it does nothing for sustain and like you said it need to be a very comfortable game to do this.
Thanx for the effort of making these good sir
Sick info as always :D
Thank you for this video BSJ!
I was baited for so long with echo saber -> silver edge. I can't wait to try what I learned here. Thanks BSJ! KUTGW
lool just owned the opposition with echosaber last game.. maybe my bracket is too dumb.. 3.5K
Thanks BSJ, Appreciate all your help
comment for the algorythm, great video hope bsj´s channel gets very big
Plz make more videos like this,they are very good!!!!!
brilliant vid. I'm learning Slardar and this is extremely useful, like others said.
It was a good informative video tnx bsj i really wanna try him and this guide will help me tnx
Echo on Slardar is really tempting tho, like really really really tempting. Like, the double hit, mana regen, and stats. But the thing which makes me agree about questioning echo is the timing. Slardar has slow farming speed altho not bad attack speed thanks to treads, but yeah the farming still kinda slow. I just think that making echo just delaying his dagger timing really really lot. Maybe another bracer for stats if needed or drums then dagger is much better.
The information you give us is priceless man really thank you a lot. My main position is offlane and with your advice I managed to become a better player. BSJ ftw!!
you are doing a good job. ty bsj
Greaaaat video! Now that I understand the hero that well, I'm sure I'll know how to play dota with it or against it so thank you. Great job!
beautiful video! I wish it would be mars next!
algorithm boost! great content
Great video!
I learned Slardar doesn't get right clicked the hardway when I bought a blademail because of DK stunning me for 10 years, all it did was keep them from hitting me while I was stunned and instead focusing on my teammates which isn't exactly ideal lol
Been spamming slardar and winning after I watching this video. Thx so much bro!
Awesome guide Sir Jamma
Slardar wr combo for pos3,4 is broken rn. Slardar amp and wr's ff deletes anyone mid game. Plus shackle and slardar's kit as a whole makes the laning part very ez
I agree, tested this with my team during scrims and it was a blast
oh boy whenever I play with a friend we always pick ogre + slardar, ultra gay combo
@@juancarloslopez6483 I wanna try IO slardar. I once had this lane in a pub, crushed the enemy team, then lost late game.
this is really helpful thank you!
Thank you! BSJ! love u from SEA server
Amazing stuff. A doom guide would be a godsend
Please keep posting offlane guides. As one of the most misunderstood roles in the game, I think your insight is helping to bring it into focus for many people.
Slardar is my very first hero back in the Dota 1 days
Mine too.
Every 5,000 subscribers??!?? BRO. please. This is the best thing on your channel, don’t punish us this way.
Very good video BSJ
Since you are doing offlane, can we get batrider pls. Thanks
8:20 "use my crush lvl 1..." - proceeds to miss both last hits. RIP
get outta here wit yo horse grin man
@@hm09235nd good one...
I was spamming slardar a few patches ago cuz that’s what I felt comfortable on since then I’ve switched to mainly mars but now it seems like ima have to pick slardar back up :)
pretty cool that all the fish/naga heroes have cc, conditional HP reg, movement, and armor redux as their kit.
Ammar seems to always build mask of madness on slardar so he can farm more (especially ancient) before buying blink and i find in my case i can dominate the laning stage but when the carry hide deep inside his jungle then i can't pressure him because his team will just tele and arrive before we can and i start losing networth compare to their pos1 because i can't farm without mom
Thank you sir
big thanks BSJ!!! :))
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Upvote to make the next guide must be the greatest of all dota heroes and BSJ's personal favorite:
Lone Druid
Excellent guide.
my favorite!!
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Unselfish items, ah the reason I lose most of the time, somehow pos 4 keeps going damage items hahah. SEA not only competitive against enemies but also vs allies.
Great guide man
What about echo sabre instead of midas for the games where you are doing good? More stats, sustain and helps farm jungle camps faster and also helps you burst people.
well this is an old guide but i feel like axe does everything better than slardar but serves the same purpose.
blink initiator, slardar may have more utility in that he has sprint and amp for true sight and - armor but axe has a BKB piercing aoe disable... axe also way better at farming and better at pushing waves/taking towers and is way harder to lane against, also axe can cut waves quite easily, he can just do a lot more imo
Actually Slardar x Naga matchup /midgame/early lategame is quite difficult. Cast time on naga is very slow, so if slardars goes treads, echosabre + one more AS item (or upgrades into silveredge) like midas or maelstorm you get permabashed if your hero has long cast time. I had higher networth at that point of the game by 2-3k lead on him still I could not man up.
I had this encounter twice. I did join teamfight lately so I can help team I got three kills out of it and tried to man up at 90% HP against 60% hp slardar. I dispeled haze with manta and had illusions attacking him as well. I died in both games twice at this stage of game. I had treads,manta,diffusal + pointbooster+ultimate orb for skadi and I died to slardar with treads, midas, sabre. He easily identified which one is real me with crush and I could not cast shit or outrun him. there was like 0.6 second window of me not being bashed. from start of encounter to my death (bash, 3 hits, crush, 3 hits, bash, 3 hits bash). Guaranteed bash with 200dmg on lvl7 when heroes (not naga) but others have basic armor it hurts like a truck. This is what makes him strong, specially fact that he can manfide anything with treads, echosabre. Later on he was easily kited, burned out of mana and died to nothing, but at that stage he really shines. My winrate on slardar is 5-1 since august, counters BKB users
Then don't fight with Slardar as Naga. Naga doesn't like to participate in fights. Her idea is to split the map, get six slotted and then fight.
If slardar spots your hero, I guess you are playing Naga wrong. Try to play away from fights. In this case, rushing manta instead of diffusal is good, since you want to dispel his corrosive haze. The best thing about Naga(compared to other non illusion heroes) is you can farm really fast with your illusions and slardar can't really stop you from doing that. Get 6 slotted by 30 minutes and wreck them.
Although I agree with most of the tips, I disagree on the echo sabre rant. The thing is that most of the dota guides online are done by very good high mmr players that play in games where there is A LOT of team effort. Like A LOT. At low mmr, people don't know about timing, they dont call shots, they dont help you or gang up. So strats that apply at high mmr not necessarily apply at low. Echo sabre is a perfect exemple on slardar. It is a little bit less expensive than vlads, it slows on bash, double hit every so often which boost your bash potential AND gives mana regen which slardar desperatly need. I can't count how many times I killed a target due to the double attack from echo sabre before he escape me. Vlads keeps me alive but doesn't help me kill at all. And like you said, I'm not suppose to be the one killing (or doing the damage) but at crusader-archon rank and below you have to sometime, cuz no one comes for help. You can always trade it later for something more team oriented.
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What about if the team
Needs a break item, like silver edge. Slardar is not a bad hero to build it, if the hc/mid cannot. Usually, against specter/bb. If I don’t have anyone to break their passives, I build it.
love the guides
What about silver edge? Would silver edge be a good initiation item against specters etc?
My teammates blammed me bcause i didnt get pipe, i bought bkb. They think, if you are an offlaner pipe or hood is a must if the enemies' damage is mostly magical.
Good guide bsj
4.4 into 5.4 by spamming slardar...rushing ags after get midas (win lane) or drum (lose lane)
YES! SLARDAR BABY!
bsj, how about stacking moonshards to get below a 0.3 attack time (permalock)? you ever tested that build? at around 2 moonshards you can just permalock anyone
What about mjollnir in a very long game, like about 50 mins above. To solve the wave clear issue? As usual great guide LOVE THESE HERO GUIDE SERIES ❤️
Mjolnir for farming? In that case midas is better. Mjolnir for dealing damage to enemy heroes? BSJ already explained why it's not Slardar's job to deal damage.
@@samataldazharov9394 i don't know if you read my message/question I clearly understood the video entirely. The question is mjollnir for WAVE CLEAR in long games
if its 50mins it comes down to your carry and mid
do you think echo into silveredge or orchid/bkb (depends on the game) viable for slardar?
I mean echo is not really a complete damage item. double hit is a free hit for your bash with an extra control before the bash. it gives you some mana reg which is nice especially since you got mana in sprint. and it gives some health as well.
treads into blink into echo sounds good for quick pickups
lol free hit for bash.. someone’s confused. Last time I checked and tried that, it never worked. It doesn’t count it. I believe this applies to certain other things too.
@@matthewshan1031 if you let it hit twice(instead of canceling the attack with the first hit) it counts for 2.
I just tested to be sure if I remember wrong or not
Really good guide!
Wish you'd make more guides, they are always insightfull.
Also wish you'd mention neutral items for heroes (like what is the ideal items for him at the various marks, for slardar ocean heart comes to mind as potentially rly strong)
Minus armor doesn't counter armor is what i always said to people when i was at 2k mmr. If you do the math . Minus armor works best when the oppent have less than 15 or 10 armor.
very informative video, but what about radiance vs naga pl type of heroes when you have a good start? It also solves the issue in clearing waves
I don't think you really need to make radiance on slardar to deal with PL. Your goal should be at max try to delay those heroes's diffusal timings. If there's absolutely no one in your team to deal with illusions, maybe you can consider it. But I don't think good on Slardar, since like BSJ said you don't want people to hit you. You wanna burst them down before they get a chance to hit you. Also the build up of radiance is not really nice for slardar ( if it was a brewmaster, or Omni or abandon, radiance is great since you want enemies to hit you).
Thank you😁
Guide on what to do with midas rushing dipshit carries please
I'm a little confused about why BSJ thinks Echo Sabre is bad. Doesn't Echo Sabre simply allow Slardar to Bash more often, hence enhancing his CC role? How is buying Echo Sabre on Slardar equivalent to playing the hero as the primary damage dealer? I get that buying Daedelus and Desolator implies that Slardar is doing the damage, but Echo Sabre? The item gives a plethora of mixed stats, including INT and even mana regen. Surely that can't be considered a plain-jane DPS item that gives nothing but damage?
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whats better against disrruptor,destro, ES, bkb or lotus?
There are some matches I don't have a clue about Slardar. I don't know how Slardar would have a lane as good as against AM when playing against PA. I have played once this lane match-up and ended up not meeting the expectation of my teammates. Did anyone get some advice for this match up?