Noob here! This is easily the absolute best guide on fail stacks I have seen. Video or otherwise. This is the best guide that even describes what a fail stack even _is_! Looking forward to part 2! :D
First of all, I'm glad you not quit the game. I like your attitude to the game, and your guides is the most welcome of all streamers. This guide is one of the most welcome guide, a guide about failstacks. In the forums you can't found any god information. Even from guildies, then don't share to much about their secrets about failstacks. No, I have long time seek after a nice giude about this... you got it!! Thx Morrolan :)
I'm only 12 minutes into this video and I already understand this better than I have in 100+ hours of playing. Thank you so much for such a good explanation and demonstration!!
despite a lot of people ranting about how they hate this system, i love it. Makes it harder to get progression(and risky), and better gear feels a lot more special. I will play games that include this type of progression going forward. (ArcheAge, BDO so far)
52 fs on my +15 Kzarka attempt... I realises NOW after watching your video how bad I am at failstacking .. Thanks for all usefull infos ! it's really gonna help me :)
I don't see why so many people complain about the system. Its like the best enhancing system ive seen in quite a while. Insteat of just having a 2%chance for your last upgrade you can farm up for it systematicly and make money out of the process. Its a so damn good system. Everything else would either be a guarantee which would be ways too casual. A cash experience which would be complete trash. Or a pure rng thing with 2% or so for the last upgrades.
It's important to note that there are situations where you SHOULD force an enhancement such fishing rods going to +8, +9, and +10. Any failure can, and usually does, drop it down a level. Also, know that a force does not reduce your fail stacks. If you has +30 stacks, you will still have +30 after the force.
Thanks for another extremely helpful guide. Sucks what happened with their monetisation but I'm glad you're not letting the vitriolic circle-jerk ruin your enjoyment (I've never let it ruin mine.) Also your awesome radio voice would be missed!
kupacmac I had the same mentality... until I realized how much more of a headache it was trying to find items on the marketplace that you actually want.
@Insidious LoL True it is hard to get certain items, but they usually get posted eventually. It's just a matter of figuring out how much to put down on the pre-order.
good luck pre-ordering TET Boss gear. its actually not that bad enhancing, it works out around the same price if you got lucky and bought it or enhanced yourself
i went from 10 to 90 stacks on my liverto staff trying to go from 14 to 15 when i first started playing, i didn't really know how important stacks were. So much money..... "BUT" i accidentally double clicked on enhance when i got it to duo and i got TRI at 0 stacks -.-
You get stones by camping field/world bosses, daily boss awakened scrolls, daily graduation (can only do it once). They start stacking up fast, I usually have 500+ armor stones now.
Thank you so much for this. I just started on ps4 and got to mid 50s on my main and I didnt understand enhancements until I found this video. This is the best and most detailed guide Ive found so far on YT. You earned a sub my guy! :D
My friend, this is an absolutely awesome video! I haven't even finished watching it all, yet, but I couldn't help but feel great watching and learning this stuff so easily. The way you explain it makes it feel so easy to understand. The most inspiring part of this for me is that very, very few people can accomplish this when it comes to these BDO concepts. Seriously, I don't know a single player, including well known BDO UA-camrs (some who quit), who can explain this concept so clearly. You're also helping me understand that some of the “frustrating” parts of this game were actually designed to be at least “little blessings” in disguise. Of course, it would've been easier if they're full blessings, but I'll take little blessings to help me not get frustrated, but actually be optimistic. Thank you. I'm really grateful to you. =)
Dude i can't thank you enough for this video! Your explanation was exactly the level of detail I needed and it's all so comprehensible! I've only recently started the game and it's honestly been so overwhelming with my recent lvl up to 50. My AP and DP can't hold up out there. Im on my way to pt.2 now! Goodluck to you and your endeavors!
Thank you for making this. I have been playing less because I get bad luck with the upgrading gear. Gets confusing. I wish BDO would make a video in game that shows how to do this. I really happy you made this video. Very good show and tell for novice upgraders like me. Time to get back playing and grinding for black stones. Keep the great content coming . Thanks again
what a nice guy ! i spend few days getting information about upgrading gear. all you get on youtube is people showing the whole process in a montage style video with lots of dubstep +3times speed and no explanation at all.i dont even get the sake of this crap. this was very helpfull! you earned a follower :) one question where to get memory fragmens exept from daily rewards and the AH?
You can get memory fragments by combining 5 Ancient Relic Shards, 5 Forbidden Books, or 5 Scrolls Written in Ancient Language. They turn in to boss scrolls which you can fight for fragments.
Tons of comments here saying "pay to win". Please tell me one item you can get that makes your stats better than the same class. There is not one item in game that RNG wouldn't chew up. XP boost? Forest or Desert costume? Value pack? Man I didn't think a tax break or inventory space could hit so hard..... *rolls eyes* Go play Lineage 2... now that is pay to win. I wish there was a tissue event for all the tears...
Really nice guide even for 2019, except you were reading the chart wrong, in the first collumn you need to look at the number you are trying to get. So If your weapon si +14, you look at the 15th collumn. (You probably know it by now, but just for new players watching)
Even though this is a pretty old video, I am happy to have found it. I have been playing BDO for over a year now (leasurely, not fanatically upgrading) and I found failstacking far too complicated to do serious enhancing. Now I finally begin to understand it!
Done my Liverto from Duo to TRI with 25 Failstacks ^^ And build up 49 Failstacks with my 14 Grunil Helmet xD Playing this game since 14 days. level 58 with 62 % ^^ Kinda used 2 Grinding due to diablo, but that whole failstack thing was confusing me so hard :D And yes I DID wasted those 49 FS on my grunil xD
Thank you for this guide, it helps so much. I use the armor I get from drops, or my workers make to repair durability instead of selling it on the AH. I'll be waiting for part two.
so much to learn and explore. im currently leve 61, using event exp boost 200% plus 100% bill i get 0.006 to 0.008 exp every 3mins. a long way to go. im just grinding mobs, horse, cooking beer, connecting node and time to time doing some quest. soon, il be doing enhancements, boat trading and more. i watch this video preparing me when im in to enhaning. amazing. thank you for the information. oh, im not using elixer and buffs, need to learn that part also. amazing
I'm not sure if you covered this in the video and I'm sorry if you but does this guide also apply to fishing rods? Specifically the balenos fishing rod?
Fantastic guide! really. but i got two questions. 1. How do you fund all this upgrading? iam 56 since today with ny warrior and great sword. but i get the feeling even at sausan or manes i make so little money.. when people speak about several "100 million" of repairs.. how do you do that? 2. what do i do if iam "lucky" and get more then 30 fs and have no better items to upgrade? my best are my +15 grunil and +7 liverto. thanks!
1. Sausans and Manes are both fine for money. Sausans is better if you can solo a good route. I've just been playing for a long time, and I'm very active into life skills & workshops as well as grinding for a good mix of active & passive income. 2. Just save those stacks. 30 stacks will be very important when it comes time to make TRI attempts on your boss gear. This is also a good range for DUO attempts on some of the better accessories, which I'll have a guide out for soon.
I hate enhancing soooo much my liverto is on 24 :c and its annoying because I cant farm. Sometimes I feel like to just stop playing because I am also poor
Eri you get rich by grinding though... those items mobs drop.. you should be going to all the npcs to collect you money.... that on top of items that drop you should gain.... plus your peons.. have the gather materilas and sell them.... attached nodes to all the major cities for easy transportation.....its a steady grind.....
for your +12 helm isn't the max fail stacks 20 instead of 18? The chart says the enchant you're going to, not the one you currently have. You're trying to get to +13....
19:23 wouldn't it be 20 failstacks you can benefit from, seeing as the helmet is already +12 and it seems that you have to look on the 13 row to find the stats for upgrading to +13.
I havent really started playing the game but watched a few tutorial now. But meanwhile, a question appeared: What is the actual lategame? Is it only to upgrade your stuff and make more money or is there also something like REALLY hard content you need the upgraded stuff for?
Are you using krea to just build uo fail stacks? Or are you actually like trying to upgrade to krea? Im tryn upgrade my rosar staff, but its hard to recover durability since their quite rare and expensive to you do the same thing in this situation?
In this guide, it looks like you were just upgrading a single piece of gear (shield), but what about an entire armor set? Should I work on each piece one by one until they get to +15 or so, or should I build them up evenly?
I'd say using that failstack image as a reference to make a +15 is a pain in the ass for cheap weapons, unless you're upgrading a kzarka or something you don't need that many failstacks for it. I made my liverto to +14 using a maximum of 13 failstacks (6 being the minimum I used for +9) and then used 19 for pri and 21 for duo. Started trying on 15 fs for both pri and duo but they succeed at those fs. FS are expensive so I'd say it's worth risking the repairs for anything that is not boss gear.
No, it's the other way around.. those have a lower chance of success and are expensive to repair therefore it makes sense to try and get closer to the fs cap so you don't fail/break them that much.
How do you treat enchanting from +12 to +15 when you said that you only use the force cost benchmark guide until +11 and later from +15 the different method with the chart...are you then still using the force cost benchmark-method until +15?
I've seen other guides talk about and start with failing accessories for the first few stacks. Is there a reason you didn't do this? (like simplicity or speed) Or has the failure of those changed, so they don't fail as much?
People don't really bother with that anymore since the price of black stones dropped. It can save you a little money, but it's not really a significant amount.
I remember seeing those too, most of them said you should get your first 5 stacks on accessories... this is just absolutely not efficient, considering how often accessories will PRI and reset your stacks. You CAN use accessories for failstacks efficiently, however, and I'll cover this in part 2.
So to upgrade my Liverto from +8 to +9, I should start around 11 fail stacks ? Or since it's expensive to repair ? And just keep the -3 below the max from there ? And really good guide! Helped a lot :) nice voice and not rushing through it :D!
when is it a good time to start enchanting?? at what lvls? should i keep the stones until far later in the game when i aquire better gear maybe?? (lvl 25 bers)
You can start as soon as you get blackstones. It's really up to each player to decide how much enhancing they want to do on their own, and how much they want to try to buy from the market.
im just worried that if i start enhancing my gear maybe later in the game i will be able to buy a gear thats better than the already enhanced and i will not have stones to enhance the new one!! so what im actually saying is that if the enhanced gear is (lets say) rated 4 stars and i find a non-enhanced gear thats rated 5 stars whats the point of me enchancing the first one? sry for long comment :P
So just a question if I get it right. Every time I fail enchanting I will get +1 failstack right. And with each failstack my chance to enchant that item increases right?
For TET no, the cost is too high and you need to be generating stacks off the failures. For PEN, if you already have a 120+ stack, Cron Stones are not out of the question, but not great either. Depends on your class, the availability of a backup piece, and how much you like or dislike the overall process of re-claiming TET.
I played the game for 2 weeks when I made 59 failstacks at +13 yuria, and made +14 with it, later I made PRI with 8 conc. stones... currently saving for TRI liverto, ain't fkin with that luck :P
How do you get your stones? If you grind for them then where do you grind, or if you buy them where do you grind for the gold! Also what lvl is your main
Thanks for the info I was so lost on how to upgrade I actually like this system a little more forgiving than in other games where a fail means you lose the item loving this game more everyday and I only been playing like 3 weeks.
Is there an approach to upgrading armor and weapons efficiently without having to switch to multiple alts? I only have one other character at the moment. For example, can i just buy cheap armor like Dobart and upgrade that to gain fail stacks and then when high enough stacks swap in my liverto or +12 grunil?
No, alts are absolutely mandatory. Eventually your stack will get to high to upgrade whatever you are working on, and you will need to reset to a different character. Otherwise you will end up wasting very high stacks on items that are absolutely not worth it.
how many alts would you recommend? I just started leveling my 2nd character with a friend who started recently, so I've got 2 characters to switch between but I'm guessing that's not enough?
Hey Morrolan Great video man~! Just have a question for ya, would you recommend using Grunil gears to build failstacks? or the cheap ones you can purchase from vendor? Thanks.
I personally use Grunil and sell it when I'm done, but this is partially because I have a grunil workshop that runs 24/7. Most players prefer reblath as it requires less upkeep.
Ye well, most of the warriors I asked about how many fs did they use to TRI their Great Sword Test used over 50 failstacks for it. In my case i used 55 failstacks after failing 6 times to TRI and over 20 times from PRI to DUO. Still have 47 and 57 fs on two of my alts tho. Dandelion will come soon, I prayed enough to RNGesus.
Question : I understand that force is losing me way more resources than the random but it has 100% success right? If i keep collecting the resources kai force to PEN wouldn't that be simplier? and doesn't this mean that i am forced to create new characters? I am fine with my Maewa i don't really feel like making another character, but do i really have to have 10 ors character that you have in order to get my weap to TRI and above all that doing all this process?
You can only force regular gear to TRI, and you can only force boss gear to +15. You also can't force accessories. Whether you like it or not, you need failstacks for higher level enhancements, and if you force, you can't get those enhancements. Forcing is only viable for players who are happy with a low ceiling on their gear progression. And yes, the system forces you to use multiple characters. I have 12 characters and sometimes even that isn't enough to failstack adequately with bad luck streaks on boss gear.
so what's this thing i see people combining two of the same item in the enhancing window and then getting pri? is that an old thing or can i just buy 2 regular bows, combine them, and get a pri with some fail stacks?
Hey bro... any update for the " enhance and durable " mechanics? I'm assuming its a new mechanic implemented on steam launch? just cause i dont read anyone talk on it.
It's pretty new - basically use Enhance when you actually want the item to go up, and Durable when you want it to fail. It doesn't affect the overall strategy too much
Durable is just the old enhancing rates, but you only lose 4 durability per click instead of 5. Enhance is a new rate that seems to be about 20% higher but takes the old 5 durability loss
I'm assuming Krea shield is one of the cheapest items to do fail stacks with? Gonna start soon as well. I have over 300 armor and weapon stones each with almost 1k hunter seals lol.
so if i have failstacks on different charakters it improves my chances for enchanting on 1 charakter also? i dont saw that your failstacks on the othere charakters are gone so?
only problem I have with the system which isnt the best not the worst is the tedium of making failstacks, its just meaningless busy work. Ok regressing on failure tri/tet/pen is also a terrible design choice.
I agree. I don't care how RNG based it is if everyone else has to deal with it but all this character switching and failstacking is turning me off from gearing up really quickly.
Yeah the best option is to save up/grind for silver at this point and just buy the damn upgraded weapons/Armor that cost up to 200-300 mil on the market board. It sucks for us power levelers b/c we need more AP to deal with level 52+ mobs. I upgraded my base weapon to +15, but getting it to Pri is just not worth it
Rally A better way? Anything that's not RNG. Why not do it the way you build your boat? You gather material, put it in storage, let a worker work on it, and it upgrades. Maybe but a RNG on like some special stats during the upgrade based something your worker has but THIS is one of the worst things ever.
This fucking game! failed duo with 25+ fail-stacks 7 times, got it on the 8 and quit the game out of frustration. now 8 months later i reinstalled the game and came back to try for tri ...Boom! it works the first time. you should add afk-stacks, they're clearly a lot more effective
I want to know what the deal is with quality of items (green, blue, gold, ect) do you start from green work your way up and as you get to +15 the quality goes up?
What would you consider to be easier to do? Go through this enhancement process to get the weapon you want at a high level Grind for Silver and purchase it directly from the MP for many millions
No, that's way too many stacks to use on a yuria. A yuria is so cheap to repair that you should be using it to BUILD failstacks, not the other way around. I usually fail green +13s up to 16-20 stacks, and fail green +14s up to 20-25 stacks.
TET is just a series of TRI successes repeated until it finally hits, and PEN is something 99% of the playerbase will never bother with. Either way, by the time you get there, you're probably past the point where you are looking for advice on UA-cam :P
If you already have the Yuria at +15 you can keep using it, but you only need the Liverto to hit +13 to break even with the +15 Yuria in terms of AP, and it has a lot more hidden accuracy.
What if im a new/returning player who doesnt have bossgear och duo/tri w/e to save failstacks for, should i still spare the stacks for future? im currently lvl 53.
Night vendor is the most likely place you'll see it, but fighting Bheg & Tree field bosses is a very good use of your time both for the gear & for the other loot.
Hi, Morrolan, I just found your gear Enhancing guide useful. I am a beginner of black desert. As beginner, I don't have enough black stones for armors. I've acquired 1 set of purple equipment with about 140 black stones. Do I do all 4 pieces leveling up together or focus on 1 piece first? How many stacker characters should I create for enhancing equipment (to be safe side)? Thanks. You've been EPIC !!
You want to level all your armor pretty equally. Going from +5 to +6 gives the same amount of DP as going from +14 to +15 so just do the easy enhancements first. As for alt characters, you should have the absolute maximum number of characters that you are willing to buy. Alts are very useful in this game for more reasons than just enhancing, for example, they also have their own energy pools you can spend on various things.
+Morrolan TV What if all my characters wont succeed and they will sit on the amount of Fail Stacks, which wont be worth using. Should I go for it ? Waiting for gear, which will be more worth it, is not an option. Otherwise I would wait for eternity.
My biggest thing here LOOK UP GEAR LOADOUTS FOR YOUR CLASS, at least you'll have relevant gear to keep building as you progress from lvl 1 to 56, I spent my stones on low tier items, yes you get more stones, but looking and what I enhanced and what I coulda had to begin with is a little annoying.
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Noob here! This is easily the absolute best guide on fail stacks I have seen. Video or otherwise. This is the best guide that even describes what a fail stack even _is_!
Looking forward to part 2! :D
First of all, I'm glad you not quit the game. I like your attitude to the game, and your guides is the most welcome of all streamers.
This guide is one of the most welcome guide, a guide about failstacks. In the forums you can't found any god information. Even from guildies, then don't share to much about their secrets about failstacks. No, I have long time seek after a nice giude about this... you got it!!
Thx Morrolan :)
I'm only 12 minutes into this video and I already understand this better than I have in 100+ hours of playing. Thank you so much for such a good explanation and demonstration!!
Oh man! I just found this game in 2020 and this is a 3 years old video.
despite a lot of people ranting about how they hate this system, i love it. Makes it harder to get progression(and risky), and better gear feels a lot more special. I will play games that include this type of progression going forward. (ArcheAge, BDO so far)
52 fs on my +15 Kzarka attempt... I realises NOW after watching your video how bad I am at failstacking .. Thanks for all usefull infos ! it's really gonna help me :)
as a new player in the game i found this to be quite helpful i also loved that BGM you used
thank you!
I don't see why so many people complain about the system. Its like the best enhancing system ive seen in quite a while. Insteat of just having a 2%chance for your last upgrade you can farm up for it systematicly and make money out of the process. Its a so damn good system. Everything else would either be a guarantee which would be ways too casual. A cash experience which would be complete trash. Or a pure rng thing with 2% or so for the last upgrades.
Was completely lost until I watched this. Being new to BDO this helped a lot.
It's important to note that there are situations where you SHOULD force an enhancement such fishing rods going to +8, +9, and +10. Any failure can, and usually does, drop it down a level. Also, know that a force does not reduce your fail stacks. If you has +30 stacks, you will still have +30 after the force.
Thanks for another extremely helpful guide. Sucks what happened with their monetisation but I'm glad you're not letting the vitriolic circle-jerk ruin your enjoyment (I've never let it ruin mine.) Also your awesome radio voice would be missed!
After watching this video, I'm of the same mindset as Lazy Peon, just save up money and buy what you want instead of going through this headache.
^
kupacmac I had the same mentality... until I realized how much more of a headache it was trying to find items on the marketplace that you actually want.
@Insidious LoL True it is hard to get certain items, but they usually get posted eventually. It's just a matter of figuring out how much to put down on the pre-order.
good luck pre-ordering TET Boss gear. its actually not that bad enhancing, it works out around the same price if you got lucky and bought it or enhanced yourself
BC Joshiee Not to me man, I have shit luck.
Sorry for the delay! PART 2 is finally here: ua-cam.com/video/RmMS9Oz2QJA/v-deo.html
Can you link the table of stacks and % plz??
i went from 10 to 90 stacks on my liverto staff trying to go from 14 to 15 when i first started playing, i didn't really know how important stacks were. So much money..... "BUT" i accidentally double clicked on enhance when i got it to duo and i got TRI at 0 stacks -.-
+toters911 First character I pushed yuria to 52 on +15 lmao
Is there an efficient way to get stones or silver to buy stones?
You get stones by camping field/world bosses, daily boss awakened scrolls, daily graduation (can only do it once). They start stacking up fast, I usually have 500+ armor stones now.
Thank you so much for this. I just started on ps4 and got to mid 50s on my main and I didnt understand enhancements until I found this video. This is the best and most detailed guide Ive found so far on YT. You earned a sub my guy! :D
Hey man thanks a lot for this guide. I was so lost and confused about gear upgrades!
Wow, thank you. Great video. I finally understand what failstacks are. I appreciate it.
Your videos are really good. Thanks a lot. You are really making things much more clear for me as this game is a bit confusing at first.
I appreciate the kind words!
Hands down the best and most helpful guide I've seen from a beginners pov!
Really great work this deserves a lot more recognition
My friend, this is an absolutely awesome video! I haven't even finished watching it all, yet, but I couldn't help but feel great watching and learning this stuff so easily. The way you explain it makes it feel so easy to understand. The most inspiring part of this for me is that very, very few people can accomplish this when it comes to these BDO concepts. Seriously, I don't know a single player, including well known BDO UA-camrs (some who quit), who can explain this concept so clearly. You're also helping me understand that some of the “frustrating” parts of this game were actually designed to be at least “little blessings” in disguise. Of course, it would've been easier if they're full blessings, but I'll take little blessings to help me not get frustrated, but actually be optimistic. Thank you. I'm really grateful to you. =)
Despite being a founder and still being new to the game at level 54 this really did help a lot.
glad you enjoyed it my friend!
The method of stacking "failstacks" in our characters is compared to "Blacksmith's Secret Book" but less expensive? its a new item.
This helped so much and this I think is one of the best things that helps the economy in BDO.
Very ambitious video for fail stacking. Nice job! perhaps one of the best I have seen.
Dude i can't thank you enough for this video! Your explanation was exactly the level of detail I needed and it's all so comprehensible! I've only recently started the game and it's honestly been so overwhelming with my recent lvl up to 50. My AP and DP can't hold up out there. Im on my way to pt.2 now! Goodluck to you and your endeavors!
Welcome to bdo, Where you need to fail to succeed XD
so thats what my teachers were trying to tell me...
Art imitates life.
That was actually a very well made and most informative piece of guide that can be. Very good job!!!!
Damn dude. The old UI brings back some serious memories.
Best explanation of how fail stacks work and why they are useful I've seen or read so far.
Thanks so much for this video!
Thank you for making this. I have been playing less because I get bad luck with the upgrading gear. Gets confusing. I wish BDO would make a video in game that shows how to do this. I really happy you made this video. Very good show and tell for novice upgraders like me. Time to get back playing and grinding for black stones. Keep the great content coming . Thanks again
Amazing guide man, earned yourself a sub :)
nice
10:16 when do i get that black spirit "skin" has arms and a cape, and bones on his body
complete the main quest line
best enhancement vid ive seen/heard. thank you
Simple Question; I am level 55 (highest character) on a Dark Knight. Why is your black spirit so different at 10:15
When you do the main Mediah or Valencia story quests, some interesting things happen with the Black Spirit.
Thank you, I just got into the Mediah questline
what a nice guy ! i spend few days getting information about upgrading gear. all you get on youtube is people showing the whole process in a montage style video with lots of dubstep +3times speed and no explanation at all.i dont even get the sake of this crap. this was very helpfull! you earned a follower :) one question where to get memory fragmens exept from daily rewards and the AH?
You can get memory fragments by combining 5 Ancient Relic Shards, 5 Forbidden Books, or 5 Scrolls Written in Ancient Language. They turn in to boss scrolls which you can fight for fragments.
thx :) it seems you get durability via normal repair but its incredible painful and rare as fu**
Tons of comments here saying "pay to win". Please tell me one item you can get that makes your stats better than the same class. There is not one item in game that RNG wouldn't chew up. XP boost? Forest or Desert costume? Value pack? Man I didn't think a tax break or inventory space could hit so hard..... *rolls eyes* Go play Lineage 2... now that is pay to win. I wish there was a tissue event for all the tears...
^^^ my sentiments exactly
All games are somwhat pay to win even BDO but BDO isnt as bad it gives people without money still having an advantage with luck
This is so unnecessarily complex....
finally understanding this, after my 3rd attempt playing this game which took over a year lol
Quality of your videos is top notch
On that Korean failstack chart, the last column on the right says "boss item enhancement success rate"
Such a great and detailed guide, thank you sir! Can't wait for part2
Really nice guide even for 2019, except you were reading the chart wrong, in the first collumn you need to look at the number you are trying to get. So If your weapon si +14, you look at the 15th collumn. (You probably know it by now, but just for new players watching)
Even though this is a pretty old video, I am happy to have found it. I have been playing BDO for over a year now (leasurely, not fanatically upgrading) and I found failstacking far too complicated to do serious enhancing. Now I finally begin to understand it!
dude love your vids, with all the new updates you need to make a new vid(s) especially with the changes to enhancing
Done my Liverto from Duo to TRI with 25 Failstacks ^^ And build up 49 Failstacks with my 14 Grunil Helmet xD Playing this game since 14 days. level 58 with 62 % ^^ Kinda used 2 Grinding due to diablo, but that whole failstack thing was confusing me so hard :D And yes I DID wasted those 49 FS on my grunil xD
Sam Hanbury you're level 58 in 2 weeks?? Do you grind 24/7?! Bloody hell
Frezzo its not hard to get that lvl..
Philippe B Once I hit lvl 56 it's just been hard ever since for me.... I don't know where to grind to level up effectively T_T
Thank you for this guide, it helps so much. I use the armor I get from drops, or my workers make to repair durability instead of selling it on the AH. I'll be waiting for part two.
so much to learn and explore. im currently leve 61, using event exp boost 200% plus 100% bill i get 0.006 to 0.008 exp every 3mins. a long way to go. im just grinding mobs, horse, cooking beer, connecting node and time to time doing some quest. soon, il be doing enhancements, boat trading and more. i watch this video preparing me when im in to enhaning. amazing. thank you for the information. oh, im not using elixer and buffs, need to learn that part also. amazing
so failstacks increases the chance of upgrade?
im still pretty confused
Great guide. Still waiting for part 2 :)
I'm not sure if you covered this in the video and I'm sorry if you but does this guide also apply to fishing rods? Specifically the balenos fishing rod?
What's the difference between normal gear and boss gear?
hey dude this was extremely helpful man. ty
this video helped me SOO much. THANK YOU
Fantastic guide! really. but i got two questions.
1. How do you fund all this upgrading? iam 56 since today with ny warrior and great sword. but i get the feeling even at sausan or manes i make so little money.. when people speak about several "100 million" of repairs.. how do you do that?
2. what do i do if iam "lucky" and get more then 30 fs and have no better items to upgrade? my best are my +15 grunil and +7 liverto.
thanks!
1. Sausans and Manes are both fine for money. Sausans is better if you can solo a good route. I've just been playing for a long time, and I'm very active into life skills & workshops as well as grinding for a good mix of active & passive income.
2. Just save those stacks. 30 stacks will be very important when it comes time to make TRI attempts on your boss gear. This is also a good range for DUO attempts on some of the better accessories, which I'll have a guide out for soon.
Ok thank you very much. :-) Well then iam off into my upgrading journey. Also from now on i'll follow your channle. Keep up the fantastic work. 😀
I hate enhancing soooo much my liverto is on 24 :c and its annoying because I cant farm. Sometimes I feel like to just stop playing because I am also poor
Eri you get rich by grinding though... those items mobs drop.. you should be going to all the npcs to collect you money.... that on top of items that drop you should gain.... plus your peons.. have the gather materilas and sell them.... attached nodes to all the major cities for easy transportation.....its a steady grind.....
+rustyshield why do you... keep using... so many... ellipsis...
+Vapor Maybe... we're to... read it... like... we're out of... breath...
with liverto every fail is 2 million down the drain. so you might as well as buy a +15 off the market
ye ez just go buy a +15 liverto, ezpznotevenhard
for your +12 helm isn't the max fail stacks 20 instead of 18? The chart says the enchant you're going to, not the one you currently have. You're trying to get to +13....
huge mistake
ok just making sure, since I'm a new player and all. Was a bit confused
19:23 wouldn't it be 20 failstacks you can benefit from, seeing as the helmet is already +12 and it seems that you have to look on the 13 row to find the stats for upgrading to +13.
Literally just came on youtube to look this up and it was first vid on my recommended
I havent really started playing the game but watched a few tutorial now. But meanwhile, a question appeared: What is the actual lategame? Is it only to upgrade your stuff and make more money or is there also something like REALLY hard content you need the upgraded stuff for?
Are you using krea to just build uo fail stacks? Or are you actually like trying to upgrade to krea? Im tryn upgrade my rosar staff, but its hard to recover durability since their quite rare and expensive to you do the same thing in this situation?
In this guide, it looks like you were just upgrading a single piece of gear (shield), but what about an entire armor set? Should I work on each piece one by one until they get to +15 or so, or should I build them up evenly?
I'd say using that failstack image as a reference to make a +15 is a pain in the ass for cheap weapons, unless you're upgrading a kzarka or something you don't need that many failstacks for it. I made my liverto to +14 using a maximum of 13 failstacks (6 being the minimum I used for +9) and then used 19 for pri and 21 for duo. Started trying on 15 fs for both pri and duo but they succeed at those fs.
FS are expensive so I'd say it's worth risking the repairs for anything that is not boss gear.
No, it's the other way around.. those have a lower chance of success and are expensive to repair therefore it makes sense to try and get closer to the fs cap so you don't fail/break them that much.
Yeah man but thats just RNG, if you went from 13 to 14 on 13 stacks then you got lucky.
How do you treat enchanting from +12 to +15 when you said that you only use the force cost benchmark guide until +11 and later from +15 the different method with the chart...are you then still using the force cost benchmark-method until +15?
I've seen other guides talk about and start with failing accessories for the first few stacks. Is there a reason you didn't do this? (like simplicity or speed) Or has the failure of those changed, so they don't fail as much?
People don't really bother with that anymore since the price of black stones dropped. It can save you a little money, but it's not really a significant amount.
I remember seeing those too, most of them said you should get your first 5 stacks on accessories... this is just absolutely not efficient, considering how often accessories will PRI and reset your stacks. You CAN use accessories for failstacks efficiently, however, and I'll cover this in part 2.
It used to be efficient (statistically) to build the first 2 or 3 stacks (but never 5) on cheap accessories back when stones were 300k.
i cannot thank you enough man, thanks for the tutorial, one of the best tutorials out there.
glad you enjoyed it!
So to upgrade my Liverto from +8 to +9, I should start around 11 fail stacks ? Or since it's expensive to repair ? And just keep the -3 below the max from there ? And really good guide! Helped a lot :) nice voice and not rushing through it :D!
when is it a good time to start enchanting?? at what lvls? should i keep the stones until far later in the game when i aquire better gear maybe?? (lvl 25 bers)
You can start as soon as you get blackstones. It's really up to each player to decide how much enhancing they want to do on their own, and how much they want to try to buy from the market.
im just worried that if i start enhancing my gear maybe later in the game i will be able to buy a gear thats better than the already enhanced and i will not have stones to enhance the new one!! so what im actually saying is that if the enhanced gear is (lets say) rated 4 stars and i find a non-enhanced gear thats rated 5 stars whats the point of me enchancing the first one? sry for long comment :P
If you aren't sure what to enhance yet, I would hold off and learn a bit more about the game & your class first, just save up your materials for now.
thanks for ur replies m8 thats what i'll do!! thank you!!!!
So just a question if I get it right. Every time I fail enchanting I will get +1 failstack right. And with each failstack my chance to enchant that item increases right?
So how about tet/pen strategies? cron stones relevant at that point?
For TET no, the cost is too high and you need to be generating stacks off the failures. For PEN, if you already have a 120+ stack, Cron Stones are not out of the question, but not great either. Depends on your class, the availability of a backup piece, and how much you like or dislike the overall process of re-claiming TET.
Great video. Yeah I used mine 55fs for Liverto to go from +14 to +15 hehe now I regret it
I did the exact same thing haha. Learn as we live I guess.
Hahhaha true dat
I played the game for 2 weeks when I made 59 failstacks at +13 yuria, and made +14 with it, later I made PRI with 8 conc. stones... currently saving for TRI liverto, ain't fkin with that luck :P
How do you get your stones? If you grind for them then where do you grind, or if you buy them where do you grind for the gold! Also what lvl is your main
Pirates or Gahaz are the best money grind spots at the moment, but a lot of my wealth also comes from lifeskills.
Thanks for the info I was so lost on how to upgrade I actually like this system a little more forgiving than in other games where a fail means you lose the item loving this game more everyday and I only been playing like 3 weeks.
Is there an approach to upgrading armor and weapons efficiently without having to switch to multiple alts? I only have one other character at the moment. For example, can i just buy cheap armor like Dobart and upgrade that to gain fail stacks and then when high enough stacks swap in my liverto or +12 grunil?
No, alts are absolutely mandatory. Eventually your stack will get to high to upgrade whatever you are working on, and you will need to reset to a different character. Otherwise you will end up wasting very high stacks on items that are absolutely not worth it.
how many alts would you recommend? I just started leveling my 2nd character with a friend who started recently, so I've got 2 characters to switch between but I'm guessing that's not enough?
More is always better. There's no reason not to have them.
Hey Morrolan Great video man~! Just have a question for ya, would you recommend using Grunil gears to build failstacks? or the cheap ones you can purchase from vendor? Thanks.
I personally use Grunil and sell it when I'm done, but this is partially because I have a grunil workshop that runs 24/7. Most players prefer reblath as it requires less upkeep.
How would you build stacks for 60+? I assume use concentrated black stones?
I fail TRI boss attempts to the mid/high 40s, and fail TET boss attempts for everything higher.
i have 57 fs trying to get tri liverto, i think ill save those fs for tet what do you recommend?
For sure, anything higher than 50 you should save for TET.
Ye well, most of the warriors I asked about how many fs did they use to TRI their Great Sword Test used over 50 failstacks for it. In my case i used 55 failstacks after failing 6 times to TRI and over 20 times from PRI to DUO. Still have 47 and 57 fs on two of my alts tho. Dandelion will come soon, I prayed enough to RNGesus.
Question : I understand that force is losing me way more resources than the random but it has 100% success right? If i keep collecting the resources kai force to PEN wouldn't that be simplier?
and doesn't this mean that i am forced to create new characters? I am fine with my Maewa i don't really feel like making another character, but do i really have to have 10 ors character that you have in order to get my weap to TRI and above all that doing all this process?
You can only force regular gear to TRI, and you can only force boss gear to +15. You also can't force accessories. Whether you like it or not, you need failstacks for higher level enhancements, and if you force, you can't get those enhancements. Forcing is only viable for players who are happy with a low ceiling on their gear progression.
And yes, the system forces you to use multiple characters. I have 12 characters and sometimes even that isn't enough to failstack adequately with bad luck streaks on boss gear.
so what's this thing i see people combining two of the same item in the enhancing window and then getting pri? is that an old thing or can i just buy 2 regular bows, combine them, and get a pri with some fail stacks?
Hey bro... any update for the " enhance and durable " mechanics? I'm assuming its a new mechanic implemented on steam launch? just cause i dont read anyone talk on it.
It's pretty new - basically use Enhance when you actually want the item to go up, and Durable when you want it to fail. It doesn't affect the overall strategy too much
ok thats awesome... im assuming Durable slightly improves how well you can failstack right? In the big picture of course, silver saved etc
Durable is just the old enhancing rates, but you only lose 4 durability per click instead of 5. Enhance is a new rate that seems to be about 20% higher but takes the old 5 durability loss
I'm assuming Krea shield is one of the cheapest items to do fail stacks with? Gonna start soon as well. I have over 300 armor and weapon stones each with almost 1k hunter seals lol.
Your explanations and video are crystal clear. Thank you. However, what a bizarre damn system for gearing.
so if i have failstacks on different charakters it improves my chances for enchanting on 1 charakter also? i dont saw that your failstacks on the othere charakters are gone so?
definately worst part od BDO
Antichrist Yup I fucking hate it too, but if it wasn't that way then everybody would have too much money and the economy would fail to work
only problem I have with the system which isnt the best not the worst is the tedium of making failstacks, its just meaningless busy work. Ok regressing on failure tri/tet/pen is also a terrible design choice.
I agree. I don't care how RNG based it is if everyone else has to deal with it but all this character switching and failstacking is turning me off from gearing up really quickly.
Yeah the best option is to save up/grind for silver at this point and just buy the damn upgraded weapons/Armor that cost up to 200-300 mil on the market board. It sucks for us power levelers b/c we need more AP to deal with level 52+ mobs. I upgraded my base weapon to +15, but getting it to Pri is just not worth it
Rally A better way? Anything that's not RNG. Why not do it the way you build your boat? You gather material, put it in storage, let a worker work on it, and it upgrades. Maybe but a RNG on like some special stats during the upgrade based something your worker has but THIS is one of the worst things ever.
Okay, but how do you make the grunil orange? All I have is green. how do you do that?
GREAT and very informative video. TYVM.
This fucking game! failed duo with 25+ fail-stacks 7 times, got it on the 8 and quit the game out of frustration. now 8 months later i reinstalled the game and came back to try for tri ...Boom! it works the first time. you should add afk-stacks, they're clearly a lot more effective
fs system dont work:
Afk time or dont play game giggles:D
Hahaha afk stacks
I want to know what the deal is with quality of items (green, blue, gold, ect) do you start from green work your way up and as you get to +15 the quality goes up?
hey man. is there any visible idea to reach 25 fail stack without touching ur duo boss gear , after all the new items added to the game?
What would you consider to be easier to do?
Go through this enhancement process to get the weapon you want at a high level
Grind for Silver and purchase it directly from the MP for many millions
I prefer to buy stuff but it's a whole different set of RNG to try to win bids against people on the market. So I end up making most of it.
should i use 30 failstacks for my green yuria weapon from +13 to +14
No, that's way too many stacks to use on a yuria. A yuria is so cheap to repair that you should be using it to BUILD failstacks, not the other way around. I usually fail green +13s up to 16-20 stacks, and fail green +14s up to 20-25 stacks.
What about TET and PEN? Is everybody stopping at TRI?
TET is just a series of TRI successes repeated until it finally hits, and PEN is something 99% of the playerbase will never bother with. Either way, by the time you get there, you're probably past the point where you are looking for advice on UA-cam :P
thanks morraloan. I need more AP I'm only lv 51 so far and i have a liverto +11 should i stop enchanting it for now and use a +15 yuria for now ?
let me add I don't have enough money to risk enchanting it higher
If you already have the Yuria at +15 you can keep using it, but you only need the Liverto to hit +13 to break even with the +15 Yuria in terms of AP, and it has a lot more hidden accuracy.
no i don't have a yuria I was thinking of buying one instead of enchanting the liverto any furthor because repairs for a semi casual like me is cancer
Definitely don't buy a Yuria if you already have a +11 Liverto. You can spend that same money getting your Liverto to +13 pretty easily.
that chart at 33:00 do you have one for accessories ?
What if im a new/returning player who doesnt have bossgear och duo/tri w/e to save failstacks for, should i still spare the stacks for future? im currently lvl 53.
Vert informative video! You got yourselve a new sub :)
What is the best way to get boss armor in your opinion?
Night vendor is the most likely place you'll see it, but fighting Bheg & Tree field bosses is a very good use of your time both for the gear & for the other loot.
Hi, Morrolan, I just found your gear Enhancing guide useful. I am a beginner of black desert. As beginner, I don't have enough black stones for armors. I've acquired 1 set of purple equipment with about 140 black stones. Do I do all 4 pieces leveling up together or focus on 1 piece first? How many stacker characters should I create for enhancing equipment (to be safe side)? Thanks. You've been EPIC !!
You want to level all your armor pretty equally. Going from +5 to +6 gives the same amount of DP as going from +14 to +15 so just do the easy enhancements first. As for alt characters, you should have the absolute maximum number of characters that you are willing to buy. Alts are very useful in this game for more reasons than just enhancing, for example, they also have their own energy pools you can spend on various things.
i gotta say man this guide helped alot i was able to Pri all my equipment for really cheap thanks to this
So is the max durability repair permanent or temporary until the max durability repaired is weathered down below the amount fixed?
+Morrolan TV What if all my characters wont succeed and they will sit on the amount of Fail Stacks, which wont be worth using. Should I go for it ? Waiting for gear, which will be more worth it, is not an option. Otherwise I would wait for eternity.
My biggest thing here LOOK UP GEAR LOADOUTS FOR YOUR CLASS, at least you'll have relevant gear to keep building as you progress from lvl 1 to 56, I spent my stones on low tier items, yes you get more stones, but looking and what I enhanced and what I coulda had to begin with is a little annoying.
The thing is.. if i click armor to enchant, i cant select my blackstone. Any tips??
How about enhancung a sub weapon. I cannot enhance my shuriken for some reason