I'm grateful for channels like this that introduced me to quilts 7 years ago. Sleeping bags all look like straight-jackets to me now, I don't think I can ever go back
The Kelty uses synthetic at the footbox because that portion of the bag is what usually rubs up against a wet tent wall and synthetic will perform better than down when wet. It's actually a really great design feature.
@_68niou1 There are tents that don't have low ceilings at the head and foot ends. The Durston X-Mid for example. I very much dislike tents that have low ceilings at the foot and/or head end, such as the 1 person Zpacks tents
Honestly 0 degree sleeping bag is how I roll simply because I've been caught in too many super cold situations where having that extra warmth made the difference. I'll happily carry an extra pound to guarantee sleep comfort.
That Kelty Cosmic looks like it’s popped and has been deflated. You should put a Western Mountaineering Ultra lite 20F beside it to demonstrate the quality differences and what real ‘loft’ is.
You already know what that comparison would be, ha ha. Granted I didn’t give the bags a lot of time to loft after pulling them out of the bag, but the Kelty still is my least liked of this bunch. Good value though.
I’ve owned the 550 power fill Kelty Cosmic 20 it will keep you comfortable down to 20 F. The 800 pf Ultra doesn’t perform as well for its weight, but though the second bag on the list had better loft, it hit the limit at Kelty’s comfort rating.
Interesting video. I kind of skipped from 0 to 100 on my bag and quilt selections. I went from Coleman to Big Agnes Lost Dog to a Sea to Summit Ember ll quilt and a Western Mountaineering Versalite 10 degree. Sometimes I wonder if I paid too much for the Ember and the Versalite… but then I use them.
@@coolbreezeoutdoors7177 Yes the owner/founder of Zenbivy (Mike Galvin) is the brain behind the Backcountry Bed, and more. Hubba Hubba tent, and other notable pieces.
@@BackcountryExposure Thanks for the info. The Hubba Hubba is my most personal favorite tent. 2017 version. I work in the industry in NY, unfortunately, my store does not carry the Backcountry. It’s would be an easy sell. But, it’s too heavy for my personal use.
Can you tell me what groundsheet (is that even what is called - it looks like a bathtub bottom off a tent) that is. I have seen several people using it, and I would love to get my hands on something like that to use with a tarp shelter
Yes, it’s a bathtub floor. This is one that I designed and sewed myself. But you can get them from Mountain Laurel Designs and Zpacks and a few other random brands.
Your video screen shot says no to the Spark. Is that just based on price? They are an amazing bag and still cheaper than many Western Mtnering bags. Love my Spark and Flame. Tiny, light and warm. All IIIs btw.
It’s not meant to be completely literal. I have the Spark and love it! Just bringing to light that there are amazing options under $300 worth considering.
@@BackcountryExposure fair enough. Lol. I was looking to see what bad things you or anyone has to say about the Spark. There certainly are great, affordable sleeping bags and quilts out there. Thank you for highlighting some.
I have two Mountain Hardware Lamina sleeping bags (a 40° and a 23°) and both are very tight and claustrophobic. I had. 0° as well, and same experience. Granted, I’m a big guy, but still, not my favorite bags.
I can see having a broad chest being an issue in the Bishop Pass. I’m not sure how the Lamina is dimensionally to the Bishop Pass. But I’m really liking it.
I've been completely satisfied with Moosejaw in all my transactions which have included the Western Mountaineering Antelope (5ºF) Sleeping Bag with Gore Windstopper outer fabric + they had the best price, & they had the size SMALL with right side zipper + the Thermarest Trekker chair. I actually bought the Trekker chair with my MooseJaw bonus dollars. They have products in their inventory even when other online businesses are out. Orders get shipped almost immediately. Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada
For now I’m using as Sea2Summit SparkIII . First time using it on a trip I was concerned by how easy the sunlight shines right through it. Can’t explain how but it’s an oven and have never been cold in it + it’s extremely lightweight and packs very small.
@@boogada ha ha! You got me there. The point is, if you are looking to keep your cost as little as possible, then these are excellent options. Got a larger budget? Then a bag like the spark or something similar would be amazing too.
@@BackcountryExposurehey man what would you recommend to me for a sleeping bag that's under 200 USD that'll keep me warm for weather around 13 degrees Fahrenheit in Western Washington state. Lots of rain here.
The term budget is always subjective. Google down sleeping bags and the majority of them will cost around 300 dollars with some models going for 700+ dollars. So 300 dollars is budget in comparison to the 500-700 dollar bags.
Ummm okay. That’s not a thing. And did you miss the first 15 seconds of the video that shows all of them packed up side by side? Zenbivy being on the left…
Mountain Hardwear makes great stuff for the money; HOWEVER, I spent a lot on a Thermarest Oberon 0 and it's the most comfortable thing my skin has ever touched that didn't have a pulse. lol. Note: I've been living in a place for the last ten years where options are very, very limited. No chance to buy 95% of the sleeping bags you recommend, unless I want to play the import VAT game with the corrupted mail carriers here. lol
I'm grateful for channels like this that introduced me to quilts 7 years ago. Sleeping bags all look like straight-jackets to me now, I don't think I can ever go back
Quilts? Please tell me more
The Kelty uses synthetic at the footbox because that portion of the bag is what usually rubs up against a wet tent wall and synthetic will perform better than down when wet. It's actually a really great design feature.
But they are using hyperdry down in the bag…
@@BackcountryExposure Well, in any case, that is why.
@@_68niou1 Get a better tent instead?
@@jays7318 name a single tent that doesn't get moisture inside.
@_68niou1 There are tents that don't have low ceilings at the head and foot ends. The Durston X-Mid for example.
I very much dislike tents that have low ceilings at the foot and/or head end, such as the 1 person Zpacks tents
Honestly 0 degree sleeping bag is how I roll simply because I've been caught in too many super cold situations where having that extra warmth made the difference. I'll happily carry an extra pound to guarantee sleep comfort.
Which one would you recommend that's under 200 USD?
0f is not super cold xD
That Kelty Cosmic looks like it’s popped and has been deflated. You should put a Western Mountaineering Ultra lite 20F beside it to demonstrate the quality differences and what real ‘loft’ is.
You already know what that comparison would be, ha ha. Granted I didn’t give the bags a lot of time to loft after pulling them out of the bag, but the Kelty still is my least liked of this bunch. Good value though.
I own the Western mountaineering AlpinLite and i freaking LOVE this sleeping Bag. Im interested in the new Zpacks Mummy Bag with all around Zipper
I’ve owned the 550 power fill Kelty Cosmic 20 it will keep you comfortable down to 20 F. The 800 pf Ultra doesn’t perform as well for its weight, but though the second bag on the list had better loft, it hit the limit at Kelty’s comfort rating.
Interesting video. I kind of skipped from 0 to 100 on my bag and quilt selections. I went from Coleman to Big Agnes Lost Dog to a Sea to Summit Ember ll quilt and a Western Mountaineering Versalite 10 degree. Sometimes I wonder if I paid too much for the Ember and the Versalite… but then I use them.
Sierra Designs Backcountry bed should be on this list also. This is the winner bag missing from your list
The Backcountry Bed is great.
@@BackcountryExposure Didn’t the person that designed the Zen Bivy, design the Backcountry also?
@@coolbreezeoutdoors7177 Yes the owner/founder of Zenbivy (Mike Galvin) is the brain behind the Backcountry Bed, and more. Hubba Hubba tent, and other notable pieces.
@@BackcountryExposure Thanks for the info. The Hubba Hubba is my most personal favorite tent. 2017 version. I work in the industry in NY, unfortunately, my store does not carry the Backcountry. It’s would be an easy sell. But, it’s too heavy for my personal use.
I managed to snag 2 zero degree Bishop Pass bags at the REI garage sale for about $125 each. They're super comfy.
That's a steal for sure! Nice!
Can you recommend a down 15-20 degree non mummy shaped sleeping bag for under $200? I find the mummy shape to be constricting.
I don't have a recommendation for you, but at that price point you should probably look at 650 FP Duck Down
My Marmot Micro 0 is also under 300. 650 fill power but worth its weight.
I own a feathered friends expedition (-25 bag) and the kelty cosmic..2 completely different bags for different situations. I like them both.
Naturehike snow bird -3C is also a really good bag! For 150$ you get 650g duck down
Just buy RockFront sleeping bag if you live in Europe. Best price/performance on the market.
I never see any reviews of the Big Agnes Anvil Horn bag. It's kind of a Zenbivy alternative
I’ve wanted to check that one out.
@@BackcountryExposure You're in Utah, right? I can let you borrow mine.
I second this! Everyone over looks this bag and I can't understand why...
Is that the big agnes zoom ul?! What are your thoughts on it? Trying to decide between the rapid sl or waiting for this to be released!
Hold that thought for next week! My first impression video on the Zoom will be out next week. I compare it to the Rapide a little in that.
Me 2🤩
Is this mat is kind of hybrid between STS and BA?? These looks exactly like STS's AirSprung baffles!
It's the Zoom UL from Big Agnes. It has very similar baffling to the Ether Light.
Any experience with the big Agnes boot jack? It’s cheaper then all them and down as well
Can you tell me what groundsheet (is that even what is called - it looks like a bathtub bottom off a tent) that is. I have seen several people using it, and I would love to get my hands on something like that to use with a tarp shelter
Yes, it’s a bathtub floor. This is one that I designed and sewed myself. But you can get them from Mountain Laurel Designs and Zpacks and a few other random brands.
If the zenbivy were 850 fp with maybe 3x more down and 3x more loft, itd be perfect. I toss and turn.
Just take 2 bags with you.Being cold at night is a nightmare.
Even 2 cheaper models will work well together
Again.. sooooo curious about the Zoom UL.... Ooooohhhh can't wait to see that review.... 😍🥰🤩
No one has yet a Review on the Zoom UL but plenty about the Rapide
What length bag is the Cumulus lite line 400 that your reviewing ? I'm ordering one and can't decide on the length. Great video !
It’s a regular/medium. I’m 5’9”
Just bought a Big Agnes anvil horn 30 for $150. Hoods a bit small and you need a liner for winter, but it’s a quality bag for the price.
Is it big enough to roll around in and if so, dies it feel restrictive?
Your video screen shot says no to the Spark. Is that just based on price? They are an amazing bag and still cheaper than many Western Mtnering bags. Love my Spark and Flame. Tiny, light and warm. All IIIs btw.
It’s not meant to be completely literal. I have the Spark and love it! Just bringing to light that there are amazing options under $300 worth considering.
@@BackcountryExposure fair enough. Lol. I was looking to see what bad things you or anyone has to say about the Spark. There certainly are great, affordable sleeping bags and quilts out there. Thank you for highlighting some.
POV man in arcteryx jacket tells you your sleeping bag is too expensive
Kelty bags, hackey-sack: the 90s are back, baby!
Just gotta bump some Reel Big Fish and play some Goldeneye!
When are you doing a review of that new big Agnes zoom UL pad???
Next week! 😁 Just my first impressions from my first trip out with it. Not a full review.
@@BackcountryExposure Can’t wait. Been holding off on buying a new pad since this new BA zoom ul caught my curiosity
I have two Mountain Hardware Lamina sleeping bags (a 40° and a 23°) and both are very tight and claustrophobic. I had. 0° as well, and same experience. Granted, I’m a big guy, but still, not my favorite bags.
I can see having a broad chest being an issue in the Bishop Pass. I’m not sure how the Lamina is dimensionally to the Bishop Pass. But I’m really liking it.
What is that tent floor you’re using?
It’s a bathtub floor i sewed myself.
Great video! Good to know what is out there for good quality at more affordable prices.
I’ve got a Wiggy’s . I’m good thanks
I've been completely satisfied with Moosejaw in all my transactions which have included the Western Mountaineering Antelope (5ºF) Sleeping Bag with Gore Windstopper outer fabric + they had the best price, & they had the size SMALL with right side zipper + the Thermarest Trekker chair. I actually bought the Trekker chair with my MooseJaw bonus dollars. They have products in their inventory even when other online businesses are out. Orders get shipped almost immediately.
Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada
For now I’m using as Sea2Summit SparkIII . First time using it on a trip I was concerned by how easy the sunlight shines right through it. Can’t explain how but it’s an oven and have never been cold in it + it’s extremely lightweight and packs very small.
The Spark is an amazing bag!
What do you think is the comfort Temp Limit on the Spark 3 ?
@@BackcountryExposure The thumbnail to this video says otherwise?!
@@boogada ha ha! You got me there. The point is, if you are looking to keep your cost as little as possible, then these are excellent options. Got a larger budget? Then a bag like the spark or something similar would be amazing too.
@@BackcountryExposurehey man what would you recommend to me for a sleeping bag that's under 200 USD that'll keep me warm for weather around 13 degrees Fahrenheit in Western Washington state. Lots of rain here.
If you call 2-300 dollar sleeping bag "budget friendly" - you are talking to 1% of world population.
The term budget is always subjective. Google down sleeping bags and the majority of them will cost around 300 dollars with some models going for 700+ dollars. So 300 dollars is budget in comparison to the 500-700 dollar bags.
If it’s not your passion then yeah … all about priorities
Down comes from deferent birds so cheep down is not realy good or cleaned the right way so if you are looking for cheep bags try sym fill not down
I think a quilt is so much better than a sleeping bag
It's good that there are options to choose from for various sleeping styles. Thanks!
Cumulus + tax to USA, UK and most other countries is 400+ $
Funny, every reviewer gets briefed by zenbivy not to show the pack size.
Ummm okay. That’s not a thing. And did you miss the first 15 seconds of the video that shows all of them packed up side by side? Zenbivy being on the left…
Forget the trolls. They hide under bridges and only come out to grab people going somewhere in life. Ya know?
Mountain Hardwear makes great stuff for the money; HOWEVER, I spent a lot on a Thermarest Oberon 0 and it's the most comfortable thing my skin has ever touched that didn't have a pulse. lol. Note: I've been living in a place for the last ten years where options are very, very limited. No chance to buy 95% of the sleeping bags you recommend, unless I want to play the import VAT game with the corrupted mail carriers here. lol
You are!