Sony Changed the Future of Cameras... Now what?
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The Sony A9 III is the first stills camera to have a global shutter! Tony and Chelsea talk about what a global shutter is, how it benefits photographers, and what it means for the future of photography and cameras.
Tony also rattles off another wish list of what he would like to see improved on in the a9 III and all future cameras.
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Now what? Now we watch Markus Pix to tear the bullshit down. :)
You have good ideas for cameras👍🏻 I would like to add two more; wireless connection to cameras might use 5G mobile technology so that photos and updates would be easier. That GPS idea of Tony's allows also automatic time to camera.
I love to see that you guys aren't giving up on your camera feature wish list. Keep hammering and maybe someday a camera manufacturer will make them happen. I agree with all of them. Make it happen Sony!
I don't understand why dynamic range apparently isn't still a focus for improvement. I know the high end cameras are great now, especially with such great sensor stabilization, but it seems like there is still so much room for improvement, in both stills and video. It's the thing i most want to improve in cameras, and the first thing i investigate in a new camera, yet it almost seems ignored by manufacturers and reviewers alike. Incremental improvements, fortunately, but never the banner headline. I want to shoot at high shutter speeds by starlight with no noise. It's crazy to be that the human eye still beats $6000 cameras.
this. and global shutter isnt new but came with a tradeoff in dynanic range. if we can have both, sure. but until now you had to pick one of the two
I’ll take dynamic range, I don’t even care about IBIS.
I just got the R8, I am amazed by the low noise at high ISO. It seems to do pretty amazing capturing action as well.
@@shawnbailey7013 i had r6ii before i believe its the same sensor? nice balance between speed and DR indeed.
The human eye isn't a better sensor. I'm explaining because it's interesting, not because it's necessary to counter point:
The human eye is very terrible and we have blind and blurry spots everywhere directly in front of us not see things clearly at ALL in terms of still imaging except for a very small area in the center of our vision called the "fovea." Your brain fills in a lot of information you think you're seeing clearly but actually not and necessarily detects motion and directs attention and focus there. This is clearly needed for evolutionary reasons. If your eyes were a straight sensor for still images in front of it, it wouldn't be the worst camera ever made. It would look like someone splotched ink on actual film through a lens dipped in oil.
@@EbonySeraphim Yes, agreed :-) I wasn't clear -- I just meant that we're better than cameras in terms of dynamic range, which as far I know is still the case with basically any camera sensor (maybe some specialty scientific sensor can beat the eye.) And there are also strange nonlinearities in human perception of dynamic range, but overall, it's something that we still beat the sensors on, which is surprising to me. Especially as an audio person, where technology has beaten the human ear (which is exquisitely sensitive) for something like 70 years, depending how you count.
Can we PLEASE have an electronic ND filter on mirrorless cameras?
I like what you said about camera makers needing to focus on reducing friction. The camera is essentially a control panel. Yet the very things we want to change from moment to moment, they hide them in menus that require you to put the camera down. Switching eye detect is one of those things. Another is switching from photo to video mode. A true "street photography" camera would never require you to stop and browse a menu.
As you noted, the lack of wireless transfer is really backwards. That feature is my biggest camera want.
I have been transferring photos from my using 5d4 to my phone using the Canon Connect app since 2016.
Don't some camera mimic their own WIFI to get photos? sure they're not raws but if I'm needing photos right away i just connect to my A7c mimic WIFI with the imaging app
It's a process, technology will improve, don't get caught up in marketing hype, what photographers really need are 20 fstop dynamic range, and lower noise i.e much better high iso performance for low light , not eliminating a bowed golf stick .
Focusing on UI and connectivity is really it. My phone is so much faster for everything the frictionless-ness of it is worth the drop in quality because production speed is time is money in the social media age. Like can I livestream from the A7V with audio? Or can I at least tether it wirelessly to my phone to stream from it? The “Shot on iPhone” apple event really changed my perspective. Obviously they had lights and colorists and all that jazz. But I literally did not notice except for a couple seconds part way through when it felt like they had been all wide angle the whole time. Feels like a watershed moment. Competing for a dying slice of the market doesn’t feel like the play. DJI feels like they’re moving the right way. Even Instagram with the 360s and such. Anyway I’m very rambling. Thanks for your videos as usual. 📚✨
Eliminating a big chunk of noise out of your photos by stacking frames automatically would be so cool. It would improve color accuracy and gradation and would make editing more robust and flexible. It would make medium format image quality for smaller sensors possible.
The SNR is determined by the flux of photons through the aperture, which is determined by the crop-adjusted f-stop, which isn't really better for medium format digital cameras at the moment, otherwise many of us would be using medium format speedboosters with full frame sensors
Loved this show, I enjoy daydreaming about and over new ideas. Excellent brainstorming session.
I need a return arrow for those times I accidentally press a small button - not knowing which one - and I can't find out how to undo what I accidentally did. And, no, I don't want to reset the whole camera, just go back one step to undo what I accidentally did and can't for the life of me figure out how to undo it.
Yep, connectivity is what cameras actually need today. When I take people on guided hikes, even if they KNOW they're going to buy my photos, they still ask me to take their phone to repeat shots I take with equipment that costs thousands of dollars. Because they want to share pictures immediately instead of waiting for me to edit and send my pics to them.
Imagine having the camera be easily discoverable by androids and iphones, and sending specific shots quickly to people to share instantly. Imagine also if you could do quick edits in camera beforehand. White-balance, shadows, highlights, contrast, saturation, even using the touch screen to create basic masking or gradients. Sidecar file stored on the memory card, so you can keep the edit, or refine it on a computer later.
Sony had “send image to smartphone” - a 2MB jpg for a long time, it was a nightmare on my A7RIV and the previous app as iPhone, but they released a new connection app that works great now and the connectivity is as it should be. I switched to RV meanwhile, not sure how it works on older cameras, might be a wireless card on the camera issue rather that the app.
What I want to say is, the functionality exist, and even with questionable implementation in the past, you could still pull it off.
Not sure how/if other manufacturers do it.
Hope it helps
Imagine someone stealing your world class art or sports photo!😉
@@tomdemeo2708 You would give permission for each phone connecting, with a unique code for each phone user to enter.
@@rszebin Yeah, I meant having it actually working :D
Yes, I have heen using the Canon connect app since my old 5Dmk4 to copy wirelessly to my phone.
If you dont want people copying your photos @ events, hikes, etc, make sure you are taking photos that phones cannot. Eg, telephoto, high speed action, low light.
I could not agree w you guys more! Making a camera easier to use would help them immensely! I would love the auto eye focus for animals without having to keep changing the settings. There is nothing worse then being on safari and something showing up out of nowhere and you not having the proper settings selected 😑
Well, apparently the few available implementations are more of a gimmick. Because the AF is simply more reliable when in a specific mode, the auto mode is there but normally not used.
Now drop a 85 F1.2 GM
With the introduction of global shutter, I'm hopeful we might see stacked sensors in more Sony cameras, especially in the APS-C line.
It'll eventually be in everything, including $200 phones
Agree. Sony with a93 has broke the upgrade path for a91/2.
I just hope that a7v will have stacked sensor. If not that means there will be only expensive alpha a12 with stacked sensor and ai chip…
I gotta say, the Canon Connect app isn't bad...at home. In the field, I don't connect my phone to my R7 becaude file transfer is too slow via bluetooth, even at reduced file size. But when I get home, i get my R7 onto my home wifi where my phone or tablet automatically connects to. And I transfer my full sized files this way. Though mind you, its only jpeg and not my raw files. I would love for the same connectivity with my laptop or desktop, for my raw files and video files.
Tony, program a button for subject selection. On the top plate of my a7Rv in still mode I have the red movie trigger programmed to subject selection. In the menu I have checked only Human, Bird/Animal, Insect. I unchecked cars, trains and planes and use the combined bird/animal to keep scrolling shorter. I have C1 programmed to toggle subject ID on/off since I don't always want it.
using a custom button for subject selection still requires a second step.. picking the selection. I wish Sony would allow custom buttons to not only toggle a feature on/off but also be able to toggle between 2 features/settings. Press it once for first feature, then a second time for second feature, again to go back to first feature. Instead of burning 2 valuable C-buttons to do this today. Examples: toggle between human and animal eye focus or toggle focus area between wide and flexible spot. I would love these kind of quick changes instead of always using the FN menu screen.
99% of photographers never heard of global shutters a week ago, now we’re supposed to believe we can’t live without them? 😂
@tonyandchelsea have been talking about it for years.
@@sammer2587 I’ve been listening to them forever and this new Sony tech is the first time I’ve heard it mentioned. 😊
Everyone has heard of the global shutter in film cameras.
Just you.
@@sammer2587 global shutter in film cameras has always existed because literally all you’re doing is moving a blackout Element out-of-the-way to the the film can be exposed to the light that’s coming through the camera lens. So technically, it’s not a global shutter because the sensor has to pivot out of the way, and therefore the pivot point is on the top of the blackout element, and therefore, as it opens up, it’s allowing the bottom of the film to be exposed to the light first. There’s also other technologies For film cameras in which the blackout element in front of the film has two pieces which open up moving 1/2 up and the other half down to expose the middle of the film first. And then there is bottom pivot in which the pivot point is below the film and when the Element moves out of the way, it exposes the top of the film first There’s also blackout elements that open up, like the Aperture wings inside your camera lens, which again starts with the middle of the film, being exposed first, and opening up in a circular motion. Which to me makes it hard to find what would actually be considered a global shutter on a film camera. The reason I say that is because for an electronic camera sensor it’s literally just the idea of turning it on and off, and at that point exposure simply gets limited to how fast you can turn the sensor on and then off. I don’t see that working the same way with film cameras. It’s because there is something that physically needs to be in front of the camera in order to stop it from being exposed by the light.
I want to see the ZV-E10V2 with Global shutter.
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Is the global shutter great? Yes
Is it going to change photography as we know it? Probably not.
Right now we're at a point where technology is trumping art.
I'd like to see better weather sealing across the board, bodies and lenses. I work in wet environments, around the ocean primarily. Just ran into an issue out in the field where my Voigtlander lenses were fogging up and unusable, while the native Sony lenses were fine. That said, my a7rIV body has been a constant battle with errors and weird quirks...99% sure it's all moisture (and salty moisture at that) related. I can literally stick my phone underwater and take photos and videos, why can't my camera function properly simply being AROUND water.
Totally agree that the wifi and bluetooth is a huge area for improvement. I don't use cloud storage because of transfer times and the sheer volume of pro shooting. If my camera had, say, Verizon 5g built in and did it automatically, I'd probably revisit it. Imagine if the cameras transferred wirelessly to the computer and interfaced with Adobe. Any images you then tag a specific way in Lightroom (say 1 star) the camera would detect and automatically upload to your cloud storage. That would be very useful. Adobe building that in would be more likely, easier to implement and equally useful.
Also agree that the menus need improvement, though (from your previous video on this subject iirc) I don't think it should be dumbed down to the level of the rote beginner.
I'd like to see more advanced software options (which would virtually require better menus) to, say, focus stack while simultaneously exposure bracketing. Probably obvious at this point, I'm a landscape shooter. Give me the ability to focus stack front to back AND also bracket exposures 2/3 of a stop apart with one click and I could die happy. While I'm being greedy, also let me pixel shift lol.
Love these videos, hope the manufacturers are listening!
That is how i started. Using my smart phone. I bought a Panasonic Lumix G95 last year. Yes, I still have very much to learn. But, I am enjoying the process. Love photography. Love your channel. I have learned so much. Thank you 😊
Don't you miss the swappable imgefinder screens in the Nikon F and F2? Some screens just made some images faster and clearer to look at. Or to to mark crop dimensions on. And that would be so easy on digitsl viewfinders.
The part about anti-theft technology was interesting. I'm not sure how you could implement encryption with 2 factor authentication. Whether it he a code or a physical attribute like a hardware dongle linked to your online account.
I remember a lot of my audio effects software like universal audio, waves and although i never used it protools does it. Perhaps they could use the camera as a dongle and offline files need that link before your files are transmitted or downloaded between mediums.
I am sure there is an easier way to explain this.
Very good ideas especially wireless communication. Top of the list is a check mark or whatever to show it is an original digital pic. Happy holidays
Hey guys this is your best wishlist video *ever* - I love everything and think you are a 100% right with all your requests. Why do the cam manufacturers not get it? They will lose all business to Apple-Samsung&Co. if they’re not reacting very quickly. So Thanks a bunch for this 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 I know many are listening to your videos - hope it all becomes real very soon.
there's so much tech in smartphones that has been around for years that needs to be in cameras, maybe get them running a bespoke version of android? Also Chelsea kind of touched on it, a sensor that would have the same dynamic range as the human eye in real time (not just being able to pull it back in post) but as you view it through the view finder, so multiple exposure values for 1 shot, correctly exposing high contrast scenes as your eyes see it.
Phone are only processing images from a very tiny sensor.
@@bngr_bngr I was more referring to things that Tony and Chelsea mentioned like security, wifi and blutooth connectivity, maybe dual processors would help
Thank you for all you do to give an interesting perspective to photography technology!
Thank you!
I am excited about a Global shutter but I am concerned about dynamic range too. Historically, Global Shutters have adversely impacted a sensor’s dynamic range. Hopefully, this is not the case with the Sony A9iii. I think the benefits are there for sports and motion but I want to know the dynamic range.
@@MrWhatsHisFace2 Remember the days when Sony people talked about the superiority of their sensors because the DR was superior? Now it's so yesterday. Straight golf clubs and baseball bats are the thing now. DR? Phhhhhttttt. Eventually, this will be the norm, but there's a lot we don't know yet. Let's see what the production models do in the field. Sony doesn't make junk, so I suspect the camera will be good, but will it live up to the hype?
I'm still waiting for a mirrorless camera from DJI with L mount. It could have great menus and UI, great connectivity and great firmware updates.
We need voice controlled menu and setting changes. And wouldn’t it be nice to be able to just say something like, 'ISO, 1000' or 'shutter, 2000" or 'f, 2.8' without ever having to look down, move your hand or fingers? Voicing your changes that can be confirmed with a quiet beep and/or confirmation in the viewfinder would be great if were fast enough. It would be an option for times when you’re not in an environment where speaking commands softly is a problem.
I see the high fps mostly as an opportunity for computational features. If the camera could do exposure bracketing or focus stacking virtually instantly, then you'd get infinite dynamic range and you'd be able to fine tune real depth of field in post. Also, stacking for noise elimination becomes a real possibility. I think anyone who's not excited about global shutters becoming a reality hasn't really thought the consequences through.
Can't agree more with Tony on the FPS. I like this episode's discussion.
Controlling yourself should be on Menu syestem !! 😄 Thank you for sharing these exciting ideas and the futuristic concepts this camera might bring to life. Can't wait to see the boundaries it'll push and the innovations it'll introduce to photography and cinematography.
@12:10 Canon already have prioritization on eye AF. I use my R5 for wildlife but sometimes I forget to switch the subject back to people when needed but it still works, as long as there is no animals in the frame then it looks for eyes on people.
I experience the same thing with my R6, although the dedicated people setting does a better job imo. The R6 ii and I believe the R7 already have an automatic subject detection mode which works great.
The best and the easiest way for manufacturers is integrate smartphone with camera. Smartphones already have better screens better processing better software. Just imagine an iPhone with Sony stack sensor and the f/1.2 lens
Bigger brighter screens will require bigger batteries. All the new processing power will also need more power . So battery tech is probably the limiting factor
Sure, IF the screens don't also get more efficient.
10:40 ABSOLUTELY! I’ve known dozens of people who buy the latest greatest camera for their first camera because it has all the bells and whistles to “make life easier,” but then they give up because it’s too complicated. It takes a fraction of the time to learn how to focus and recompose with nine auto focus points than it takes to learn how to navigate and customize sixty pages of focus functions in the menu. I think canon (or whoever) would sell a ton of cameras if they started getting super niche and specific with their entry level cameras, like market a $400 body as a “portraits of your kids” camera and all it has is a single button and single knob, permanently stuck in AV with auto ISO, and always ONLY uses eye AF… I’d buy the heck out of that.
When are you going to get your hands on the Nikon zf?
IT IS the first full frame global shutter, and stacked. People think it's just the first still camera with global shutter, but the sensor itself is the first FF global shutter, and stacked.
What about instant mega-megapixel images? Stack some images, but while moving the sensor. Then use AI to align those even if the camera or subject moved, then calculate up a 256 megapixel image. It won't matter if the sensor is only 24 megapixels, if they can instantly generate any resolution you want.
Instead of 120fps at the same aperture and speed. How about 120 frames - 500 frames at every aperture and speed permutation stored in a single heic file? And computational photography where it can use that data to auto select photo, auto combine frames for HDR, etc
I think the delay of A1 II is to have it compatible with CFexpress 4.0 (PCIe 4.0). I think we might see 8K@60fps in H.265 10bit 4:2:2. Also we might see a new body design and maybe internal fan and a new set of processors as those processors are now 3-4 years old, albeit being dual in A1 and A9III.
It looks like a good camera,but why are they using a CFexpress A that can't keep up on the buffering ? And a ISO with low settings of 1/250 ?
I want a Leica set up with global shutter…
I’m torn between old school but wanting just the necessary core components…
Finger settings and aperture rings etc etc…
But with a heart worthy of the space shuttle… torn between worlds…but hey…
I started with a Argus range finder and the
(BDE) Basic Daylight Exposure… shutter speed on ASA…
Full sun lit frame @ f-16…. Expose for shadows… print for highlights… that was about it…🤷🏽
How about the ability to quickly toggle between faces in a group shot when using eye auto focus?
May be 4 or 5 years until this tech hits their more mainstream cameras but still very excited for the progression even though I'll have to wait a number of years before it will be at the price point that I'd consider it.
Nobody talks about the a9III still using a CFexpres Type A card. To me this handicaps the other technical advances of this camera.
I love your brainstorming! Listen up manufacturers!
I like the idea of Unlimited Dynamic Range using image stacking with computational photography. Also, better connections to my smartphone.
is a wildlife photographer I don’t need global shutter. what I am interested is better low light performance where I could focus and track and photograph owls at night without the use of flash.
iPhone has the Live, which is kind of burst and the phone pick the best photo for you, however, sometimes I go check on it, and I realize that it did pick totally the wrong picture, but it is a nice feature.
But why don't I improve the white balance so that I don't have to change the settings when I go indoors or the scene changes? That would indeed be an improvement. And why don't we have internal memory like phones yet? Why do I have to run after cards when an internal memory would be faster than the speed of a card and I wouldn't have the problem of a card not registering.
I'm here mostly for the fun banter / Chelsea roasts! 🤣
Would it be better to have yet another control surface -- a sliding switch or button that's a little hard to reach like the DOF preview -- to be able to immediately switch between human and animal and train, etc. portraits?
Here's a thought, re making cameras easier to use. Apple's Logic Pro software has a global preference for simple options (good for learning) and full pro options. I think every camera should have this option. And BTW, "auto" settings aren't good enough.
Cellular should definitely be an option. Especially for professionals. After the last set of big fires here ( Australia) I saw a picture a rig a photographer was carting round to shoot the fires. They needed a laptop with cellular to switch in the cards they were shooting on , while in the fire zone. At the very least a 5G handgrip should be available so that the office can dial in and down load the shots they want, without the photographer having to shelter in place just to upload photos in the middle of a disaster zone. Fire is my obvious example but any natural disaster or human catastrophe is pretty much in the same category.
The good thing is about these videos is to make people feel inadequate and buy new stuff, the upside is, there are many fantastic deals on the second hand market. Thank you!
Great video guys! I just need a bigger and clearer screen not 120 frames a sec.
Funny thing about "photographers" (hobbyist duffers included). As Chelsea said "We always want the latest gear!", even if 99% of "us" can't use it - "I am now poorly composed and over-exposed at 65 mP with a globale shutter!".
ON the other hand, "old stuff" fascinates equally. A clean-out at work left something called a "Robot Voll-Automat Star II" on a trash heap; scoopped it up immediately! Defintiely 35 mm film and it still goes "pfffft-Click!" when I push the shutter cable. I will now obvioulsy load it with film and spin knobs to try to figure out how it works. ;-p
(seriously - it seems to be a German range-finder. Aperture and shutter speed are there; plus a bunch of extra "What does that do?" knobs, levers and pulleys.)
I want to be able to back up the JPEGs directly to Google Photos or send it to my iPhone or iPad automatically as I shoot. That would ease the transition from Phone photography to Camera.
Nikon has had the Snapbridge app for years now, that does exactly this. Also many cameras have dual card slots that you can setup as backup.
For security, the shutter button could be a fingerprint scanner as well, so the owner only can take pictures. It also will add ability to sign up photos with digital signatures. There could be many registered fingerprints for different people, and different signatures.
The viewfinder may also have an iris scanner…
@@codebunnies it could be smart - for example, scan only once per day / per battery change
Great conversation and interesting points. Thanks, T & C!
The hardest part of photography for myself is choosing the image to edit... as the person who took them, they all kinda look the same to me. Shooting in burst modes seriously compounds that stress, and I always choose single frame captures over machine gun mode. 🔫 I have no idea what to do with 120 frame captures... this must be a colab with the hard drive manufacturers like Seagate or WD?
Global shutter doesn’t mean Zero (0) readout times it just means that entire sensor has every pixel exposed all at the same time but their still is a delay in transferring that entire pixel map to a readout before it resets every pixel at once. The engineers now need to work on the dir3ct recording globally vice an internal temporary hold register to allow recording while resetting the global sensor for the next exposure.
Samsung had the best menu system of any camera. I loved using my NX1 and the ease of the menu system was a big part of it.
Why not give an option to get a "cell phone" interface accessible from the now ubiquitous touchscreen?
It is high time that the camera manufacturers switch to android based OS (as you guys have pointed out time and again).
For security reasons make it possible to put a pincode in the camera. They all use touchscreens, so that shouldn't be a problem and you can make your own decision to use it or not.
This way you could probably/maybe also encrypt your memorycard.
They announced the a1 before canons r5, which might have been canons supposed to be r3 or r1. I wonder if Sony announced this before the never coming but always teasing canon r1. Now what's canons going to do. I'm content with my a1 but very curious what the a2 will be some day. Competition is great! Let's see what canon and nikon bring now.
@11:16 And even easier than that --- I want to select the next moving thing in the frame --- current Sony's kind of do do this already, but it isn't a bad idea as an option.
The one thing I like is the flash sync at any speed. I pretty much had that with the Nikon 8000 way back in the early 2000s because it had an electronic shutter… but for some reason they removed the flash sync capability from all cameras with electronic shutters after that.
Do you really need a flash with Global Shutter or can you just use a light.
OK, I'll admit it -- I'm just south of 80 years old. There are a bunch of us, many even older than me, and we buy camera gear. I have an A1 and some lenses that would have been considered impossible even a few decades ago. However, my vision isn't what it used to be, my arms get tired holding heavy weights out at awkward angles, and my neck is stiff. Why do I have to hold my camera up to my face so one eye can look through a tiny lens onto a squinchy image? It's even worse if the fingers holding all this up to my face must also be doing a complex dance over lots of buttons and dials. No, I don't want a big bright external screen either. Not only is it annoying to others in the room, but it can actually light up the area that I am trying to photograph.
So, I want a two-eye heads-up display that connects wirelessly to the camera body. I want gaming gloves or some other way for my fingers to move virtual buttons and dials.
I never ever had any problems with valuables in China. left my phone in the hotel lobby, it was picked up and left with the hotel staff for my return. also been around with my camera gear, no problems
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Other manufacturers can add more DRAM buffer to increase the pre-shutter press cache.
Definitely, the traditional camera manufacturers can add Google, Apple, etc, depth sensor information and processing to improve picture quality even more.
One thing I love about the Nikon menu system is they have a "?" icon where you can get a short description of almost every menu item and how it should be used.
Could U have connected an Xperia to the a9iii and have it do a live feed broadcast during the event?
Auto selection of pictures is one thing, but with 120fps interpolation using AI would be no big deal since the sequence itself can act as training data. That way a sequence could use another storage format (RAW Sequence) and in post you could select any number of images from the 'stream'. Actually the camera would gain a feature called fps-invariance, (akin iso invariance) where the right picture could be generated out of camera just as well. Instead of series of photos you just show one, with a slider underneath to select the time offset in mSec.... Like the kind of interpolation which already is used in movie files to increase framerate, but with added AI for picture refinement.
1024 fps would be awesome for science/discovery/research. Imagine the slowmo shots you could achieve for video. I’m with Chelsea on this one. I suspect we’re bumping up against the properties of light when we go this high, though. Higher fps probably requires more light.
I'd like to see what I call EC AI. Basically auto exposure comp that would be useful during times of fast action. For example, the required EC changes instantly when a flying bird changes altitude from bright sky backlit to a darker vegetation background. The amount also depends on whether a dark bird or one that is both dark and white feathers for example, or neutral colored. Essentially I want the camera to assess whatever I'm eye tracking, assess the background, and then constantly adjust the EC for me. I can imagine this would also be useful for sports photographers, such as a dirt bike going airborne and then back on the ground, or ski jumper, etc.. It also impacts wildlife quickly moving from sun to shade. Not hard to think of other examples when the lighting is very fluid.
The only thing I disagree with is changing the fps by pressing harder on the shutter button. I can see that being annoying. The turbo button makes sense to me.
Are you guys doing a best lenses list this year?
Simplify, simplify, simplify is a definite need. It can and will expand the user base and build loyalty. Also some computational photography, better conductivity and GPS are all great improvements. I would also like to see some depth map info built into the photos, but recognize this is not easily done.
I love the prospect of the global shutter. It will push Canon, Nikon and others to get better. Taking off camera flash at any speed is game changer.
GPS, baby!!!!
Even if I get a relatively new SONY a6700, I gotta run a separate app on my phone to track my route, Then I gotta go through a whole workflow, just to get GPS coordinates into the metadata of my images. It's insane. My Olympus TG-4 has frikkin' GPS. And it can even track my route for me as well.
How about internal memory? Hasselblad has 1 Tb of nvme memory inside the camera and 1 memory card for backup and the X2D is not much bigger than a full frame camera. Think how fast it could transfer images to the memory.
Have AI in the camera that can see the offense and the defensive sets of each team. The AI in the camera will calculate 3 moves ahead of the play . Then it will use autonomous steering technology to guide the user or drone to the correct spot. This will eliminate the need of high shutter rates in some situations like the apex of the jump shot to get a lower iso. There will be no need for a high shutter rate because AI will make the correct judgement when the shutter will be released. This will eliminate culling and increase workflow.
7 years ago. I don't need autofocus because I'm a professional. I don't need a flipping screen because I'm a professional. I only use film because I'm a professional 😀😀😀
Awesome discussion! You two rock!
From my point of view, cellular connection wouldn't be necessary to build into the camera.
To me, it would be more important to be able to connect the camera to a WiFi network and upload the images directly to a cloud service of my choice, e.g. Dropbox, One Drive, Google Drive, etc., not only to a proprietary service from the camera manufacturer.
It should also be possible to cast images and videos to a WiFi TV, connected to the same SSID, for previewing and to terrorize your relatives with your latest photos.
If you are out of reach of WiFi, you could setup a hotspot on your phone and use that. No need for another SIM card to load with data.
Wireless microphones should be possible to connect to the camera via Bluetooth, then it's a generic device that can be connected to a phone or computer as well. If Bluetooth exists anyway, this would only be an addition to the software stack.
GPS could be neat, but not really something I need personally.
Look into using Android as the operating system in the camera. This is a huge undertaking for the first product but would save resources in the long run for the camera manufacturers as they can focus on building a good menu system and good apps like filters, image editing and what not. They will need to port Android drivers to their chipsets, but that is more of a one-time job. WiFi and Bluetooth access is native to Android and app for, e.g. Dropbox, already exists.
It also opens up for third party apps, which could be beneficial.
Two issues with Global Shutter were missed. First it dramatically reduces the need for Neutral Density filters. And second the single most expensive part of a camera is the mechanical shutter so eventually ALL cameras will have shutterless technology (either like Nikon or Sony).
Not sure how shutterless camera is considered an issue. Especially now that e-shutters are on par with mechanical shutters
Well, Frame Averaging doesnt need a global shutter Phase One had it for years. So is HDR Olympus had it for years. But I love the fact that the global shutter makes these things easier. Lots of cool stuff can and will happen. Still camera manufacturers dont even get that people need to change the braket order to + 0 - or setting the interval to 0. Just 2 lines of code. Maybe fix the minor things first.
If a camera does not have a mechanical shutter, will it still have some protection of the sensor when you switch lenses?
I am with Chelsea. I never update anything unless it really stops working without the update. It always annoys me if I need a Windows 10 update just for some new hardware drivers. Why can't I just get the new drivers? And I still use Photoshop CS2. That is 18 years old right now. I tried the latest version and surprisingly it hardly has any features that I really need. I really expected more progress in 18 years. A child born back then would be an adult now.
The problem I have with GPS is that is shows the location of the camera and not the location of the subject, although that location could be calculated with all the sensors a camera has and the focus plane.
You mentioned a lot of features you want, but remember that battery size is limited by local laws. Especially if you want to take your camera on a plane. My old DSLR can take at least 2,000 photos with a single charge and I would not tolerate anything below 1,000 photos per charge. Especially GPS and a bright screen a battery eaters. And of course complex computational photography. I just want the RAW data. The computational photography can happen on my notebook with a software of my choice. On my notebook I have the choice if I denoise my photos with Topaz or DXO. And I can choose the software that creates the best HDR or focus stacking.
And no, I never lock my smartphone. Not even with a fingerprint. I always have it on me.
Where do you get instantanious?? what is the delay from shutter press to image? The delay on my A7R3 and A74 is causing me continuing issues for capturing podium speakers. Precapture is awesome but all I want for this particular problem is the ability to see the client look up and I can determine when to push the button to get the eyes open. With my current cameras the moment has already passed because of the delay in the viewfinder.
”You can’t do that, you can’t press down harder when you’re excited Tony, you have to control yourself as well as a photographer. You have to be like a marine, control your breathing, control your shutter finger” 😂😂😂
Chelsea at 9:00 love it
I only wonder if 8k 120fps with global shutter will basically replace taking stills…
WiFi and GPS for pictures locations and camera tracking, I agree.
Global shutter does not seem to work well with synchronisation :) (sorry but audio and video of this episode, at least here, does not seem to be in sync) - I indeed checked some other videos on UA-cam and did not notice any problems... TC!