good experiment! a couple of ideas! first two 90 copper elbows, short stubs the thickness of a wall plus an inch to connect to! all done using plumbing fittings, the heater would be outside! exhaust into the radiator, and the hot air via a large pipe inside, and into a metal bin fill with big rocks so air can flow freely, and in the lid drill 10 x 2 inch holes, this would heat the rocks and act like a heat store over night!, it would run for longer periods, thus reducing the use of glow plug, and longer runs are better for the combustion as it all occurs at constant temp.. think that made sense lol.. keep it up!..
You did a video on this not so long ago and I mentioned the air capacity will slow the extraction from flowing properly without additional assistance from a heat resistant fan in-line. Heat follows the path of least resistance upwards. The air flow would be better if you put the heat output from heater to both lower ports of the radiator and the upper ports as the output and combine them together. The heat will have no choice but saturate the entire radiator.
Tried this! Burner up high piped down through top radiator hole and out bottom hole then outside lower again but it soon sooted up and was Smokey! What did I do wrong?
Nice one, Just a thought - if that radiator was horizontal you could boil a kettle at the intake end, also try looking up sand batteries they will store heat for longer after the burner has turned off.
Great video again. I reckon the variation you did with the Ford heat exchanger would work the best, maybe look at a more permanent setup with an expansion tank on the rad.
hello again my friend thanks for coming by again! yes, i agree, the heat exchanger is better for long term, and yes defo with the tank would work better. cheers andy
There's something wrong with your thermometer. Paint doesn't burn at 50C, and nor does skin. Try painting the radiator black, as that will help with the readings, and the heat emission.
Points to note: Your hand-held temp gauge reads over a circular area. You are at the point of a cone, the circle it measures the temp of gets bigger the further away you are. From 5 feet away, you may be averaging-in the temp of other objects within the circle, like the brick wall; therefore closer is more accurate. Keep those joints gas-tight at temperature!! The inlet hose is only designed to run at room temperature, so might leak asphyxiating gas if overheated. CO ( carbon monoxide) is odourless and takes no prisoners, so do not become a statistic. Warm and comfortable alive, not warm and comfortable dead.
Really interesting video! Been enjoying the process. You mentioned running the heater on kerosene. It definitely can, but I've seen in some other videos that kerosene is too clean for the pump. The pump is designed to have lubrication from the diesel fuel, and long term use of kerosene can cause wear issues with the pump. I've never experienced it myself, so it would be interesting to see if the pump wearing is an issue or not. Cheers!
hello my friend good point. you are right! kerosene is thinner. i have had some youtubers message me, they have been running on kerosene for 4/5 years, on the same pump. but with the saving on the lower kerosene price compared to diesel, it is worth the risk of failure. and even the if the pump does wear out, they only cost £10 anyway. please take a look at my other videos of the heater. i actual change a pump in one of them. cheers andy www.youtube.com/@andyfireblade
Just a thought, I haven't read through comments, what if you tried a hydronic baseboard heater with a straight through design. Could double as exhaust pipe running along the wall up to the hole in the wall while providing heat over a larger area. Thanks for your vids and great job!
It is a shame you couldn't jimmy up a small fan at the bottom inside the exhaust to help "pull" the gasses through. I feel that eventually the radiator will soot up. GB Fuel also sell red diesel for £1.15 so you don't need to pay the pump price. Obviously you can't use it in your car, but a heater I'm sure you can. Nice guys, there though, we are weekly visitors.
🤔Using a cast-iron radiator instead you would have more fuel burn to get to the same temperature because of the thickness of the cast-iron it is a bigger thermal Mass so it will take longer and more fuel to get up to the same temperature of the thinner radiator year using but it'll hold the temperature for a longer amount Of time the larger the thermal Mass the longer the thermal battery runs and more energy it takes to charge it and always Remember Have Fun experimenting Andy 😁🌐✌
@@andyfireblade🤔 if you wrap the exhaust with that exhaust wrap and then aluminium foil tape you can still swap around the pieces of exhaust without having to wear gloves then no itchy fingers or irritation from the exhaust wrap then it will transfer more of the heat from the diesel heat exchanger through the radiator or other stuff like another heat exchanger👍🌐✌
i will running the exhaust through a 15 kw heat exchanger from a refrigeration unit and run a car fan from the 350 watt trans former plus the heater its self
The readings you are getting from the heat gun are not reliable are you aren't supposed to us them on reflective surfaces, you need the matt black stickers or a dab of blackboard paint where you want to take readings from to get truer temperature readings.
yes , these will run on wast motor oil. it would run better mixed with kerosene. but you need to see this video of mine! ua-cam.com/video/WY1RqWrD6g8/v-deo.html cheers andy
hello jamie www.gbfuel.co.uk it is in erdington buy as much or as little as you like from a pump. tell them andy from youtube sent you. friendly bunch, regards andy
just keeps getting better Mr Robinson, you could fry bacon on the top of that radiator and save some more brass!
good idea for the next video. hahahaha
cheers andy
www.youtube.com/@andyfireblade
I suggest to mount 12VDC fans below the radiator blowing air upwatds. That way more heat can be exchanged and the environment keeps cooler.
this is why i love your comments.
superb! great idea. i have a fan also.
cheers andy
www.youtube.com/@andyfireblade
Why not use the existing airflow of the heater itself 👍🏼
good experiment! a couple of ideas! first two 90 copper elbows, short stubs the thickness of a wall plus an inch to connect to! all done using plumbing fittings, the heater would be outside! exhaust into the radiator, and the hot air via a large pipe inside, and into a metal bin fill with big rocks so air can flow freely, and in the lid drill 10 x 2 inch holes, this would heat the rocks and act like a heat store over night!, it would run for longer periods, thus reducing the use of glow plug, and longer runs are better for the combustion as it all occurs at constant temp.. think that made sense lol.. keep it up!..
love it.
great comments.
sound great
cheers andy
www.youtube.com/@andyfireblade
You did a video on this not so long ago and I mentioned the air capacity will slow the extraction from flowing properly without additional assistance from a heat resistant fan in-line.
Heat follows the path of least resistance upwards.
The air flow would be better if you put the heat output from heater to both lower ports of the radiator and the upper ports as the output and combine them together.
The heat will have no choice but saturate the entire radiator.
brilliant!
thanks a lot, new experiment on the way
hahahahhaaha
its your fault
cheers andy
@@andyfireblade haha just helping someone who has all the materials and costing. Lovely tele!
Tried this! Burner up high piped down through top radiator hole and out bottom hole then outside lower again but it soon sooted up and was Smokey! What did I do wrong?
Nice one, Just a thought - if that radiator was horizontal you could boil a kettle at the intake end, also try looking up sand batteries they will store heat for longer after the burner has turned off.
Great point! thanks.
yes, i would like to find out more about the sand.
kind regards andy
www.youtube.com/@andyfireblade
Put the thermometer on the bottom the hot hallway go up and the cold down put your exhaust down
i wrapped my exhaust pipe to hold more heat to put into the radiator
Great video again. I reckon the variation you did with the Ford heat exchanger would work the best, maybe look at a more permanent setup with an expansion tank on the rad.
hello again my friend
thanks for coming by again!
yes, i agree, the heat exchanger is better for long term, and yes defo with the tank would work better.
cheers andy
There's something wrong with your thermometer. Paint doesn't burn at 50C, and nor does skin.
Try painting the radiator black, as that will help with the readings, and the heat emission.
Love the experiments ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Top man
Glad you like them!
cheers andy
www.youtube.com/@andyfireblade
Points to note: Your hand-held temp gauge reads over a circular area. You are at the point of a cone, the circle it measures the temp of gets bigger the further away you are. From 5 feet away, you may be averaging-in the temp of other objects within the circle, like the brick wall; therefore closer is more accurate.
Keep those joints gas-tight at temperature!! The inlet hose is only designed to run at room temperature, so might leak asphyxiating gas if overheated. CO ( carbon monoxide) is odourless and takes no prisoners, so do not become a statistic.
Warm and comfortable alive, not warm and comfortable dead.
thanks for your tips my friend
appreciated.
kindest regards andy
Really interesting video! Been enjoying the process. You mentioned running the heater on kerosene. It definitely can, but I've seen in some other videos that kerosene is too clean for the pump. The pump is designed to have lubrication from the diesel fuel, and long term use of kerosene can cause wear issues with the pump.
I've never experienced it myself, so it would be interesting to see if the pump wearing is an issue or not. Cheers!
hello my friend
good point. you are right! kerosene is thinner.
i have had some youtubers message me, they have been running on kerosene for 4/5 years, on the same pump.
but with the saving on the lower kerosene price compared to diesel, it is worth the risk of failure. and even the if the pump does wear out, they only cost £10 anyway.
please take a look at my other videos of the heater. i actual change a pump in one of them.
cheers andy
www.youtube.com/@andyfireblade
Just a thought, I haven't read through comments, what if you tried a hydronic baseboard heater with a straight through design. Could double as exhaust pipe running along the wall up to the hole in the wall while providing heat over a larger area. Thanks for your vids and great job!
hello greg
thanks for watching.
i just googled these heaters. they look ideal for this use.
cheers andy
www.youtube.com/@andyfireblade
Great video! Been researching this for a few days. How do you connect the 24/25mm diesel heater exhaust to the radiator itself?
i used flexible hose and hose clamps
Thanks Andy. Purchased an egr cooler now and am going to feed it with a 4 gallon tank and pressure relief valve to be safe!
remote jerrycan fuel tank with dip tube
did you see my other heater videos: www.youtube.com/@andyfireblade
let me know what you think
cheers andy
It is a shame you couldn't jimmy up a small fan at the bottom inside the exhaust to help "pull" the gasses through. I feel that eventually the radiator will soot up.
GB Fuel also sell red diesel for £1.15 so you don't need to pay the pump price. Obviously you can't use it in your car, but a heater I'm sure you can. Nice guys, there though, we are weekly visitors.
thanks for the comments
cheers andy
www.youtube.com/@andyfireblade
🤔Using a cast-iron radiator instead you would have more fuel burn to get to the same temperature because of the thickness of the cast-iron it is a bigger thermal Mass so it will take longer and more fuel to get up to the same temperature of the thinner radiator year using but it'll hold the temperature for a longer amount Of time the larger the thermal Mass the longer the thermal battery runs and more energy it takes to charge it and always Remember Have Fun experimenting Andy 😁🌐✌
nice to hear from you my friend,
and thanks for your great comments
interesting
cheers andy
www.youtube.com/@andyfireblade
@@andyfireblade🤔 if you wrap the exhaust with that exhaust wrap and then aluminium foil tape you can still swap around the pieces of exhaust without having to wear gloves then no itchy fingers or irritation from the exhaust wrap then it will transfer more of the heat from the diesel heat exchanger through the radiator or other stuff like another heat exchanger👍🌐✌
@@travman2863 that sound good
i will running the exhaust through a 15 kw heat exchanger from a refrigeration unit and run a car fan from the 350 watt trans former plus the heater its self
good idea
thanks andy
The readings you are getting from the heat gun are not reliable are you aren't supposed to us them on reflective surfaces, you need the matt black stickers or a dab of blackboard paint where you want to take readings from to get truer temperature readings.
good idea thanks regards andy
www.youtube.com/@andyfireblade
Could you run this thing on waste motor oil?
yes , these will run on wast motor oil. it would run better mixed with kerosene.
but you need to see this video of mine!
ua-cam.com/video/WY1RqWrD6g8/v-deo.html
cheers andy
where do you get your kerosene from mate I'm only in Wolverhampton
hello jamie
www.gbfuel.co.uk
it is in erdington
buy as much or as little as you like from a pump.
tell them andy from youtube sent you.
friendly bunch, regards andy
@@andyfireblade pity i live up north delivery birmingham area only, sigh !
You always seem to have a section of exhaust pipe running uphill. Elevate the heater so the condensate doesn't sit in the pipe.
hello tony
thanks for your comment
good point
cheers andy