If Hermione had the sister JK Rollin was planning but never added, would she be a Muggle or a witch? I believe she would be a muggle, so the story of Lily and Petunia would happen again. Maybe with a better ending, or the same bad sister's relationship with the muggle sister hating Hermione and magic. This time, Hermione's sister will not forgive her for modifying her memories.
Considering her status as a Muggle-born, it seems highly unlikely the Death Eaters or Voldemort himself would’ve accepted Hermione even if she inexplicably *wanted* to join them.
Not necessarily. She was strong and close to Harry. She"d be even more valuable than most of his Death Eaters. And honestly, I think he only used pureblood rhetoric to get followers and their financial backing. Once they were marked he owned them and could say Harm Hermione and die. She would be invaluable to him. And based on one comment by Scabior, Slytherin House had had muggleborns sorted into their ranks. Based on what she did to Rita Skeeter, Marietta Edgecomb and Dolores Umbridge, Hermione had a lot of the Slytherin qualities.
@@katholmes7112 no, what she did to those three was not representative of Slytherin, because she was standing up for what is right by dealing with those three, not taking advantage of people.
I think you are spot on. And this has a parallel in World War II. The Nazis were more focused on destroying Jews than on winning the war. That’s why they used resources for the former rather than the latter. And that’s also why they chased out Jewish scientists like Einstein from Germany, and those scientists went on to help the US develop the atomic bomb. Imagine if Germany had carved out an exception for those scientists…
Uh, permanently scarring a girl because she was scared for her mom? Hate to say it, but while Marietta shouldn't have betrayed the DA, that was straight up savage. And even for the right reasons, Hermione was ruthless and cunning and those are Slytherin traits.
I don't think this would have played out this way exactly because Snape would have found out she switched sides since he was already a double agent. There was no mention of that.
Two ideas: - What would happen if the Dursleys treated Harry much better than in the books? Would Petunia have pushed Harry more towards doing good in school? - What would change if Harry looked or acted more like Lily?
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can you do one on covinus gaunt. a direct decendent of salzar slytherin in the 1800. he could be in hogwarts legacy. and he was the one who buiild the plumbing system for the chamber of secrets
I think a better what if would be "What if Ron became a Death Eater?" In "The Deathly Hallows", it showed Ron being affected by the locket the most so, what if, after believing Hermione actually chose Harry instead of him, he ran out of the tent, found Voldemort and swore to help him kill Harry.
Hermione not only was a "mudblood", making it unlikely that Voldy would be interested in her, but also the other way around, she would not fall for a trick by someone whom she knew despised her. On top of this, she has a moral compass...and a good one too.
Genealogies can always be fudged, and most Pure Bloods still have some parts of the family tree that went off the reservation and thus they depersonsed, who they could make up Hermione being a descendant of, thus making her just somebody of low blood purity than a true mud-blood.
Voldemort would be interested in Hermione if he knew she'd give him an advantage. He might plan to kill her later when he got what he wanted but it's not unlikely that he'd see her as a tool. This one is a personal opinion but I feel like Voldemort never really cared about blood status all that much, at least not as much as the pureblood families did. Voldemort was smart, he noticed that the pureblood families held all the power, so what did he make his manifesto about? About something that the pureblood families cared about, blood purity.
I’ve read some fanfics of Hermione becoming a Death Eater… disturbing stuff. In one Hermione and Viktor consumated their relationship and she became pregnant. Her parents forced her into an abortion and this tipped Hermione over the edge. Thus one of her initiations was torturing and killing her parents. Very disturbing.
@@davidkennedy8929 Don’t blame ya. With a surname like Kennedy, I certainly wouldn’t put my trust to a person with that name. Particularly after all the Kennedy’s I knew in my life were all crooks.
I read a good evil- Hermione fanfic once about Hermione being the daughter of voldy and a Phoenix order member. The order member was McGonagall's daughter and was killed by voldy's own hands. I think it was Marlene McKinnon and she gave birth to her and kept her birth a secret by using a memory charm on muggle neighbors who couldn't have children. They raised Hermione and she discovered they weren't her parents when she cast her own memory charm on them. I can't remember the name of it but it has always stuck with me. It was kind of like star wars with Leia being hidden from her dad.
I've recently developed a very strong love for the idea of Dark Hermione, but in terms of her joining Voldemort and the Death Eaters, there really are certain criteria that that kind of story really has to meet for it to be believable. First and foremost, Voldemort is not stupid; he is definitely VERY aware of Hermione's talents and intellect, and is fully aware that without her, Harry would have died a THOUSAND times over. He probably wouldn't have even survived his first year at Hogwarts. So he knows better than to waste a resource/asset as valuable as Hermione Granger, but he would most definitely make her EARN it. He would more than likely put her through the worst "school of hard knocks" imaginable to make her prove herself worthy of being a Death Eater. But knowing Hermione like I think I do, I don't think there's any doubt that she would pass EVERY test he set in front of her with flying colors. Now as to WHY Hermione would join the Death Eaters, again, the reasons have to be believable, and there are two scenarios in particular that I find to be the most believable and, as such, these are the ones that seem to produce the best stories. These scenarios are A) some event occurs that pushes Hermione over the edge (examples might include her researching the Dark Arts in secret to try and help Harry, but becoming addicted to them in the process; she spends too much time wearing the locket on the Hunt and it corrupts her from within; or she suffers some kind of betrayal from her friends and/or loved ones that causes her to completely snap), or B) Voldemort WINS the final battle at Hogwarts and kills Harry and Hermione, being the pragmatist and survivor that she is, decides she's tired of fighting and/or being on the run and joins Voldemort so that she will have at least SOME guaranteed future where she'll still be alive, even if it is nothing like the future she was hoping for.
I would think Voldemort would have to need her so badly to even ask her or encourage her in any way to join simply because she is a mud blood that he would instantly make her very high up in the death eaters. Possibly even higher than lestrange. She would have to be everybody in the organization would hate her and certainly not respect her or her authority. He would almost have to make it like "if she tells you to do it it's like I'm telling you to do it. Or if she says it you need to act like it's coming from my lips."
One way I could see Hermione switching allegiances would be if she was under the Imperius curse. Just imagine if in Half Blood Prince, Draco after receiving his assignment to assassinate Dumbledore decided he needs someone with Hermione's brains to help him pull it off. So one day he hits her with the Imperius curse when she's alone like he did with Katie Bell. Under his influence he would then be able to use Hermione to help him kill Dumbledore. And once they succeed he convinces Voldemort to spare Hermione and bring her into their fold. Knowing how brilliant she is and what a valuable Death Eater she could be, Voldemort gives her the mark.
that's a great idea. it would also give Draco a proper 53X toy. the only issue would be to keep hermione on the imperius or to, somehow, make her join willingly so there's no need for the imperius anymore.
@@DanielRossellSolanes Its not impossible. That was basically what Corvus Lestrange Snr did to Leta's mother. Forced her to become his wife and play thing.
Outlandish theory without any ground imo. -She is a muggleborn so unlikely to be recruited -If she is blackmailed then she is not a death eater -It is totally against her character -She is too level-headed to be manipulated (unlike the hot tempered HP)
She'd probably mess around with Voldermort like Snape did, and sneak hints to Harry so that Harry somehow always outsmarts Voldermort or have a lucky escape.
Two good questions you may have answered and I just haven’t seen the videos: 1. What if Ron got fed up with his family’s poverty and turned pro-pureblood? What if Hermione had been caught at one time or another when she broke school rules and been expelled? What would she have done within the wizarding world then? Gone to Beaubatons? Taught herself from books? Or perhaps stayed in the muggle world and become a dentist like her parents?
If Hermione had been expelled, probably she would keep on teaching herself illegally from books, and then find a way to live in both worlds. Earning her living from Muggles, but using magic to do it. A good example of this was a fanfic I once read, where Lee Jordan, good friend of the Weasley twins, became a star magician for Muggles after graduation, using her magic skills.
Idea for a video… what if Harry Potter was set in 2022? The example that made me think of this was “Hermione needed the recipe for Polyjuice Potion, so she googled it on her iPhone 14 and watched an instructional video on UA-cam, meanwhile Ron looked down at his hand me down Nokia 3210 in frustration”.
I mean Harry Potter is set in 1990s. There was internet already available in the UK, at least in libraries. Wizards are way too backwards for the 30 years timeskip to make a difference. I mean they did not even get to the “ballpoint pen” phase.
yesss maybe she wouldn't have met Vernon and she wouldn't have Dudley considering she would most likely live in the wizarding world and fighting in the war (unless she was scared and left).
@@anthikatsarou2235 maybe she wouldn't have had a bad relationship with her sister. Because her bitterness came from the fact, that her Parents loved lily more from her perspective. And not having a bad relationship with her could be helpful. What if Petunia was a good witch even, a capable one. She could have helped Lily Potter hide herself from Voldemort. She might have been useful
@@Myflopgames exactly maybe Sirius would tell them to make petunia the secret keeper instead of him (&peter) the potters would have survived, harry would have a happy childhood,wolfstar would have been together and peter would have been in azkaban,also the poa and goblet of fire would have been different and the deathly hallows.
This would’ve made for a great and hardcore subplot. And if Voldemort were to gain the support of one of Harry’s friends, it would make sense that it would be her, as he looks for magical strength and intelligence, and with someone like Hermione, he would have groomed her to be his second in command. Would be like Willow Rosenberg from season 6 of Buffy. And what would happen if Voldemort never acted upon the prophecy concerning him and Harry?
Feels like you should have put more into getting around her muggle-born status. Now beyond that it could actually be an interesting dark Hermione arc that she joins through coercion to protect her parents, but grows to become a magic supremist as she becomes enthralled by the Dark Arts. Honestly though given how much Pure Bloods hate the idea that being a witch or wizard (let a lone a strong one like her) is a random genetic mutation, if they did actually want to use her talents I wouldn't put it past some Death Eater fabricating their family tree to show her and the others, see you weren't actually a proper muggle-born your great great something was actually a disgraced member of our family who ran off with a muggle, and thus your magic gift is actually a blessing of superior pureblood re-exerting itself.
I do not think death eaters would even consider allowing Hermione in. But for her to join death eaters, DA was her idea so that would not be said to harry . Quidditch team would not be allowed to cut morale on him , Umbridge would be approached by her to join and prophecy theft would happen except getting them away from ministry would be done by side along apparition then she looks at prophecy
I fear for the fate of dumbledore's army members in this scenario, the list they signed their names on would become a kill list if Hermione handed it to VOLDEMORT.
What if Harry Potter sided with Voltomort. He was so angry with how the Dudleys treated him and being lied to and sided with Voltomort. He even blamed his patents for his treatment and went after the Dudleys and all muggles.
Honestly the only one of the 3 who would have been accepted by the death eaters would have been Ron because he was a pure blood, Then again they knew he was a weasley who were probably one of the staunchest enemy families of the death eaters so truly no matter how powerful any of them were none of them would have been accepted into the ranks
Did Hermione find her parents after Voldemort's defeat? Could she somehow restore their memories? Is it theoretically even possible? What if she had previously created some 'backup drive' for their memories? Did Lockhart know how do to such kind of magic?
Well, yes. Because she never wiped their memories. That's just a movie thing. In the book she uses a charm to give them alternative identies and memories. She also plans to find them, and reverse the charm once the war was over.
Even ignoring that Hermione is a muggle born and acknowledging that she has a little bit of a dark side this would just be too out of character for Hermione. We're talking about the founder of SPEW here. She would never join the Death Eaters
I think Voldemort would have never allowed Hermione to be a death eater because she was a mud blood she was on Harry Potters side before that and I just think no matter what she would never betray Harry and Ron and the whole of Dumbledores army
It wouldn't have gone smoothly. Conflict wouldve escalated to murder in short order. Wizards are serious about blood purity. Hermione was ceaselessly bullied for being muggle born while at Hogwarts, under Dumbledores nose, but alone among Deatheaters....
A Death Eater Hermione likely includes whoever recruits her fudging their genealogy to make her a lost branch from a disgraced member who ran off with a muggle, thus upgrading her to just a low blood purity witch.
She would not have been on his radar until after the battle in the Department of Mysteries. Snape would have been told to stay Potions Master and would have made sure she got his old book. He would have had to have turned away from Dumbledore first for it to work. A year of grooming would have been necessary and would be irresistible to her. At the end of year six, she would have fled with Snape and would have been back at Hogwarts with Draco for year seven. She never would have gotten with Ron and would have shared the key Intel about Neville, or may have simply poisoned him. Ron too. Harry would be hiding out with Creature, stuck in ambiguity as the boy who hid. At some point, Belatrix would have gone to her house and killed him after torture first. Or worse, used a love potion to compromise him and let him do the rest. Of course, Hermione may have let Riddle in on the secret and would have simply recruited Harry rather be than trying to kill him.
But Voldemort would not recognize this value. He thought he knows Harry better than anyone else, with also believing in him having the greatest plan and deepest knowledge.
8:54 *ahem, grindlewald is still alive…. If it had gotten to that point, where harry was dead, and dumbledore the only one capable of standing up to voldemort, i think he would have released grindlewald, but ising an unbreakable vow to ensure he would only attempt to bring down voldemort. Of course grindlewald being old and weak, would need time to recover his strength, but I think if dumbledore gave him the elder wand, which wpuld be a foolish thing to do if he didnt know grindlewald was also dying, and would need every advantage. I think grindlewald would be able to gather enough followers from Europe to fight voldemort after his takeover
I would really love to know your theory behind what would happen if Snape couldn’t bring himself to kill Dumbledore! But please keep doing the great work you are doing!!
What if Ron had not come back? What if Dumbledore had not given him the delluminator, allowing his return? Would Harry and Hermione have succeeded just fine on their own?
I don't think she ever would have been a full death eater, similar to the situation with Fenrir. BUT I DO think that Voldemort would have JUMPED at the opportunity to recruit Hermione, who he could manipulate and use to mess with Harry.
Ron definitely had it in him to go dark. Hermione was Harry's most devoted friend. Ron? Not so much. Turned on him without a thought. And look at the way Percy went for a while. I hope he does one on Ron.
More than that, had it not been for Hermione he would have either been chomped by Lupin or kissed by the Dementors. I can't remember how it played out in the books but at the lake it was Hermione that convinced Harry to cast his own Patronus. Moreover if it wasn't for the time turner he wouldn't have been able to save Sirius or himself anyway.
The only time she ever spent time with her parents during the holidays was year 1 that I remember. Highly doubt that would cause her to change allegiance. Impermanence curse is more likely
There would be no stopping them. Defeat will be impossible. They we’re extremely intellegent, applied themselves to every subject, members of the Slug Club, prefects in their fifth year, started two powerfull societies DA and The Death Eaters, highest marks on their exams. She could be just under Bellatrix. She could even beat Harry easily. No need for a third wizzarding war because with Hermonie and Lord Voldermort, victory would just happen.
Pretty sure they'd never let her join even if she did turn evil. Death Eaters are all about pure blood extremism, and Hermione is muggle born. They would refuse her and kill her simply for that reason alone.
Seriously similar idea was bouncing in my head for last few weeks (All becouse I was messing recently with one of my lego shelfs (one with potter minifigs) and I put Belatrix like hair on hermione minifig)
I think not just Hermionie's parents treten will cause this, hocrux will work either. Just how Lucius done to Ginny, same trick can apply to Hermionie. Kreacher and Peter knows how good the trio are together. Just need to let the tio having conflics such as Victor's letter, DA betrayal
Voldemort ONLY recruited Death Eaters with power/status in the magical world. There's NO way they would ever accept a muggle-born child into their ranks. A sympathizer? Maybe. A snatcher? Sure. An actual Death Eater? Never. Ron, on the other hand...
I think Hermione would’ve double crossed Voldemort, she wouldn’t have told him about not being able to kill Harry. She would get to that point in the room of prophecies but have D.A. Ready for backup at which point she could still work on Voldemorts side and leak information the same way Snape did, knowing that the only way to truly save her parents would be to ensure that Harry would live. Both she and Snape would relay information and ensure the victory for Harry.
I think I see the major flaw in this theory. Hermione was a muggle born. Death Eaters were pure blood supremacists. The others, Yaxley, Rowell, Avery, the Malfoys, and especially Bellatrix Lestrange would never, never have allowed this! The other flaw is that turning color is totally outside of Hermione's basic, fundamental nature. Comparing her to Fenrir Grayback is I think a complete red herring.
Some of these what ifs are not plausible, like for instance after her parents were kidnapped that Hermione would change sides and believe in Voldy's cause. Not going to happen and she wouldn't give them any really useful information like taking Harry's blood protected him. Just not going to happen, at her first chance she'd betray Voldy.
I prefer to see the original version with hermione being part of the threesome that were the good guys, anything else in regards to any of those three doesn’t seem to be viable to me!
The question isn’t if Vold would allow her to join, but why would she agree with his goals. And if he's making her parents hostages, she would never help him for real. The only way would be if Hermione was from slytherin from the beginning, having the same abilities but with evil character.
I get that this is an alternative version of events, but it doesn't really make sense. Hermione is muggle born, so she would never be welcome among death eaters. Even half blood death eaters were viewed with disdain by the others.
And voldemort would have a great and powerful witch on his side and someone who knew how to get to Harry Potter and to those he cared about and use them against him, and would have won the war of hogwarts and of the two worlds.
Honestly, this scenario is so unlikely, I'm having trouble wrapping my head around it. I totally agree that if Hermione went to the dark side, it would have been over for Harry and the rest. However, there's just no way it could have happened. Sure, she went to extreme measures to protect her parents in the Deathly Hallows, but I don't think she would have switched sides if they were taken hostage. She wouldn't betray everyone else she loves, or her own values for her parents alone. And let's be honest, she isn't winning any "Daughter of the Year" awards anyway. She only sees them for a few weeks out of the year, and often cuts any time she does have with them short in favour of being back in the wizarding world. Of course she wants to protect them, but I think she would sacrifice them if it came to that. And of course there's the elephant in the room: She's a muggle born and there is no way the Voldemort would have allowed her to join. Fenrir Greyback is an entirely different case. Voldemort saw halfbreeds, like werewolves, as lesser than full witches/wizards, but not worthless. He saw muggles as trash to be disregarded. He saw muggle born witches and wizards as abominations. He called them thieves, and accused them of stealing their power. Even in the highly unlikely event of Hermione developing a Belatrix level of conviction for the dark arts, she would still be tortured and killed on the spot.
If Hermione didn't reverse the Memory Curse that she used on her parents for the greater good after T.M. Riddle died, then she is morally bankrupt, if not malevolently inclined.
This of course is forgetting the fact that Voldemort would never let a mudblood into the ranks. The wierdest and stupidest yet entertaining HP theory I have come across.
1. It wouldn't happen because the Deatheaters were terrorizing wizards and witches who were offspring of muggles. 2. Ron wouldn't because the Deatheaters considered his whole family as "bloodtraitors"
That theory would be end the all good in wizarding world. Heormine Voldemort Right hand so close to Harry would ben so fatal. Herormine would been Voldemords most deadliest death eater she so smart and 1 off talented witches in her time! But the fact that she is muggle is mindblowing!
I don't think Voldemort would recruit a Muggle-born to the Death Eater cause, no matter how desperate he was to kill Harry. Slytherin House itself only accepts "pure bloods" and "half bloods", and Voldemort represents the most extreme form of that ideology. I can see him abducting her parents and threatening to harm them if she didn't do his bidding, as you said; but that's not the same thing as *being* a Death Eater. You need to have the Mark to be a true Death Eater, and I see a 0% chance of Voldemort bestowing that blessing (in his mind) on a Muggle-born, no matter how much he required her services. Likewise, I don't see how Hermione could actively support an ideology and movement that seeks her annihilation. What would she think would happen to her once Voldemort won the Second Wizarding War? That she would be the *one* Muggle-born that he would spare? I just don't see it, but it was an interesting video nonetheless. Keep it up.
I can not phantom the idea of Hermione ever becoming a Death Eater because she was a Muggle Borne and would not be in their opinion be eligible to become one in their ranks for that reason.
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What If Hermione was send to Muggle Born Resignation as Blackmail against her Parents’s Life.
If Hermione had the sister JK Rollin was planning but never added, would she be a Muggle or a witch? I believe she would be a muggle, so the story of Lily and Petunia would happen again. Maybe with a better ending, or the same bad sister's relationship with the muggle sister hating Hermione and magic. This time, Hermione's sister will not forgive her for modifying her memories.
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Considering her status as a Muggle-born, it seems highly unlikely the Death Eaters or Voldemort himself would’ve accepted Hermione even if she inexplicably *wanted* to join them.
Not necessarily. She was strong and close to Harry. She"d be even more valuable than most of his Death Eaters. And honestly, I think he only used pureblood rhetoric to get followers and their financial backing. Once they were marked he owned them and could say Harm Hermione and die. She would be invaluable to him. And based on one comment by Scabior, Slytherin House had had muggleborns sorted into their ranks. Based on what she did to Rita Skeeter, Marietta Edgecomb and Dolores Umbridge, Hermione had a lot of the Slytherin qualities.
@@katholmes7112 no, what she did to those three was not representative of Slytherin, because she was standing up for what is right by dealing with those three, not taking advantage of people.
I think you are spot on. And this has a parallel in World War II. The Nazis were more focused on destroying Jews than on winning the war. That’s why they used resources for the former rather than the latter. And that’s also why they chased out Jewish scientists like Einstein from Germany, and those scientists went on to help the US develop the atomic bomb. Imagine if Germany had carved out an exception for those scientists…
Uh, permanently scarring a girl because she was scared for her mom? Hate to say it, but while Marietta shouldn't have betrayed the DA, that was straight up savage. And even for the right reasons, Hermione was ruthless and cunning and those are Slytherin traits.
@@katholmes7112 why permanently? I’m sure it was eventually healed. And I don’t think she was ruthless and cunning. Smart, yes.
Or worse! What if she was expelled?
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She needs to sort out her priorities.
Please do if Hermonie got expelled video!!!!
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I don't think this would have played out this way exactly because Snape would have found out she switched sides since he was already a double agent. There was no mention of that.
Two ideas:
- What would happen if the Dursleys treated Harry much better than in the books? Would Petunia have pushed Harry more towards doing good in school?
- What would change if Harry looked or acted more like Lily?
Make videos on them yourself
- What if Snape would have raised Harry?
If Harry was like lily they won't lose unnecessary house points or snape would have been softer to him
Yo Harry Potter Theory For your next Video Please Do What If Grindelwald Won? What would happen to All of Europe And the Rest of the Entire World as a hold?
Great idea!
Yes please do this idea!
can you do one on covinus gaunt. a direct decendent of salzar slytherin in the 1800. he could be in hogwarts legacy. and he was the one who buiild the plumbing system for the chamber of secrets
There would not be any Harry Potter Harry may not have been born
That sounds fantastic
I think a better what if would be "What if Ron became a Death Eater?" In "The Deathly Hallows", it showed Ron being affected by the locket the most so, what if, after believing Hermione actually chose Harry instead of him, he ran out of the tent, found Voldemort and swore to help him kill Harry.
*Hermione gets expelled due to one of their adventures*
*Instantly blames Harry and hits up Voldemort*
Hermione not only was a "mudblood", making it unlikely that Voldy would be interested in her, but also the other way around, she would not fall for a trick by someone whom she knew despised her. On top of this, she has a moral compass...and a good one too.
Yes however umbridge who was half blood wasn't a death eater she got a better job in the ministry as she followed her beliefs.
Exactly.
Genealogies can always be fudged, and most Pure Bloods still have some parts of the family tree that went off the reservation and thus they depersonsed, who they could make up Hermione being a descendant of, thus making her just somebody of low blood purity than a true mud-blood.
Voldemort would be interested in Hermione if he knew she'd give him an advantage. He might plan to kill her later when he got what he wanted but it's not unlikely that he'd see her as a tool.
This one is a personal opinion but I feel like Voldemort never really cared about blood status all that much, at least not as much as the pureblood families did. Voldemort was smart, he noticed that the pureblood families held all the power, so what did he make his manifesto about? About something that the pureblood families cared about, blood purity.
I’ve read some fanfics of Hermione becoming a Death Eater… disturbing stuff. In one Hermione and Viktor consumated their relationship and she became pregnant. Her parents forced her into an abortion and this tipped Hermione over the edge. Thus one of her initiations was torturing and killing her parents. Very disturbing.
What a weird and strange statement! No wonder your name is spaceodds as it’s truly out there! Not remotely believable or very nice to consider.
@@davidkennedy8929 Don’t blame ya. With a surname like Kennedy, I certainly wouldn’t put my trust to a person with that name. Particularly after all the Kennedy’s I knew in my life were all crooks.
@@spaceodds1985 Thanks, I will accept that as a compliment!
I definitely couldn't see Hermiones parents doing anything like that
I read a good evil- Hermione fanfic once about Hermione being the daughter of voldy and a Phoenix order member. The order member was McGonagall's daughter and was killed by voldy's own hands. I think it was Marlene McKinnon and she gave birth to her and kept her birth a secret by using a memory charm on muggle neighbors who couldn't have children. They raised Hermione and she discovered they weren't her parents when she cast her own memory charm on them. I can't remember the name of it but it has always stuck with me. It was kind of like star wars with Leia being hidden from her dad.
I've recently developed a very strong love for the idea of Dark Hermione, but in terms of her joining Voldemort and the Death Eaters, there really are certain criteria that that kind of story really has to meet for it to be believable. First and foremost, Voldemort is not stupid; he is definitely VERY aware of Hermione's talents and intellect, and is fully aware that without her, Harry would have died a THOUSAND times over. He probably wouldn't have even survived his first year at Hogwarts. So he knows better than to waste a resource/asset as valuable as Hermione Granger, but he would most definitely make her EARN it. He would more than likely put her through the worst "school of hard knocks" imaginable to make her prove herself worthy of being a Death Eater. But knowing Hermione like I think I do, I don't think there's any doubt that she would pass EVERY test he set in front of her with flying colors.
Now as to WHY Hermione would join the Death Eaters, again, the reasons have to be believable, and there are two scenarios in particular that I find to be the most believable and, as such, these are the ones that seem to produce the best stories. These scenarios are A) some event occurs that pushes Hermione over the edge (examples might include her researching the Dark Arts in secret to try and help Harry, but becoming addicted to them in the process; she spends too much time wearing the locket on the Hunt and it corrupts her from within; or she suffers some kind of betrayal from her friends and/or loved ones that causes her to completely snap), or B) Voldemort WINS the final battle at Hogwarts and kills Harry and Hermione, being the pragmatist and survivor that she is, decides she's tired of fighting and/or being on the run and joins Voldemort so that she will have at least SOME guaranteed future where she'll still be alive, even if it is nothing like the future she was hoping for.
how to turn Harry Potter into a horror story for Halloween??? Ah yes make Hermione evil, that is freaking horrifying.
Of the many, many things, what sticks out to me is that Harry wouldn’t have survived that Christmas in Godric's Hollow
I would think Voldemort would have to need her so badly to even ask her or encourage her in any way to join simply because she is a mud blood that he would instantly make her very high up in the death eaters. Possibly even higher than lestrange. She would have to be everybody in the organization would hate her and certainly not respect her or her authority. He would almost have to make it like "if she tells you to do it it's like I'm telling you to do it. Or if she says it you need to act like it's coming from my lips."
There might have not been a Dumbledore's army in the first place, because that was also Hermione's doing
Voldy would definitely want a prize like Hermione, but he would sure make her earn it first.
What if she was a Sith Lord like Count dooku
One way I could see Hermione switching allegiances would be if she was under the Imperius curse. Just imagine if in Half Blood Prince, Draco after receiving his assignment to assassinate Dumbledore decided he needs someone with Hermione's brains to help him pull it off. So one day he hits her with the Imperius curse when she's alone like he did with Katie Bell. Under his influence he would then be able to use Hermione to help him kill Dumbledore. And once they succeed he convinces Voldemort to spare Hermione and bring her into their fold. Knowing how brilliant she is and what a valuable Death Eater she could be, Voldemort gives her the mark.
that's a great idea. it would also give Draco a proper 53X toy. the only issue would be to keep hermione on the imperius or to, somehow, make her join willingly so there's no need for the imperius anymore.
@@DanielRossellSolanes Its not impossible. That was basically what Corvus Lestrange Snr did to Leta's mother. Forced her to become his wife and play thing.
I saw a hp fanfic where she becomes a death eater because Harry and Ron killed her parents but it’s revealed that the lestranges are her real parents
Outlandish theory without any ground imo.
-She is a muggleborn so unlikely to be recruited
-If she is blackmailed then she is not a death eater
-It is totally against her character
-She is too level-headed to be manipulated (unlike the hot tempered HP)
She'd probably mess around with Voldermort like Snape did, and sneak hints to Harry so that Harry somehow always outsmarts Voldermort or have a lucky escape.
Two good questions you may have answered and I just haven’t seen the videos: 1. What if Ron got fed up with his family’s poverty and turned pro-pureblood? What if Hermione had been caught at one time or another when she broke school rules and been expelled? What would she have done within the wizarding world then? Gone to Beaubatons? Taught herself from books? Or perhaps stayed in the muggle world and become a dentist like her parents?
If Hermione had been expelled, probably she would keep on teaching herself illegally from books, and then find a way to live in both worlds. Earning her living from Muggles, but using magic to do it.
A good example of this was a fanfic I once read, where Lee Jordan, good friend of the Weasley twins, became a star magician for Muggles after graduation, using her magic skills.
Idea for a video… what if Harry Potter was set in 2022? The example that made me think of this was “Hermione needed the recipe for Polyjuice Potion, so she googled it on her iPhone 14 and watched an instructional video on UA-cam, meanwhile Ron looked down at his hand me down Nokia 3210 in frustration”.
I mean Harry Potter is set in 1990s. There was internet already available in the UK, at least in libraries. Wizards are way too backwards for the 30 years timeskip to make a difference.
I mean they did not even get to the “ballpoint pen” phase.
Good theory but takes away all the aesthetic roma tic gothic style that we all love.. technology sometimes sucks
What if Petunia Dursley was a Witch. I think it would have changed a LOT
yesss maybe she wouldn't have met Vernon and she wouldn't have Dudley considering she would most likely live in the wizarding world and fighting in the war (unless she was scared and left).
@@anthikatsarou2235 maybe she wouldn't have had a bad relationship with her sister. Because her bitterness came from the fact, that her Parents loved lily more from her perspective. And not having a bad relationship with her could be helpful. What if Petunia was a good witch even, a capable one. She could have helped Lily Potter hide herself from Voldemort. She might have been useful
@@Myflopgames exactly maybe Sirius would tell them to make petunia the secret keeper instead of him (&peter) the potters would have survived, harry would have a happy childhood,wolfstar would have been together and peter would have been in azkaban,also the poa and goblet of fire would have been different and the deathly hallows.
This would’ve made for a great and hardcore subplot.
And if Voldemort were to gain the support of one of Harry’s friends, it would make sense that it would be her, as he looks for magical strength and intelligence, and with someone like Hermione, he would have groomed her to be his second in command. Would be like Willow Rosenberg from season 6 of Buffy.
And what would happen if Voldemort never acted upon the prophecy concerning him and Harry?
Feels like you should have put more into getting around her muggle-born status.
Now beyond that it could actually be an interesting dark Hermione arc that she joins through coercion to protect her parents, but grows to become a magic supremist as she becomes enthralled by the Dark Arts. Honestly though given how much Pure Bloods hate the idea that being a witch or wizard (let a lone a strong one like her) is a random genetic mutation, if they did actually want to use her talents I wouldn't put it past some Death Eater fabricating their family tree to show her and the others, see you weren't actually a proper muggle-born your great great something was actually a disgraced member of our family who ran off with a muggle, and thus your magic gift is actually a blessing of superior pureblood re-exerting itself.
Idea. "What if Harry's father didn't die? Only his mother still sacrificing herself for harry".
I do not think death eaters would even consider allowing Hermione in. But for her to join death eaters, DA was her idea so that would not be said to harry .
Quidditch team would not be allowed to cut morale on him , Umbridge would be approached by her to join and prophecy theft would happen except getting them away from ministry would be done by side along apparition then she looks at prophecy
Awesome theory video thank you so much keep up your amazing work🖖🏻💖🍀
Thank you! Will do!
Can do you a "What if Dumbledore never Died"
More of these what ifs would be great
I fear for the fate of dumbledore's army members in this scenario, the list they signed their names on would become a kill list if Hermione handed it to VOLDEMORT.
What if Harry Potter sided with Voltomort. He was so angry with how the Dudleys treated him and being lied to and sided with Voltomort. He even blamed his patents for his treatment and went after the Dudleys and all muggles.
Voldermort and his baffons would not have been able to look past her “blood status”
Will you start uploading in 4k soon? Ik most material isnt in 4k for harry potter but it would still be nice.
Honestly the only one of the 3 who would have been accepted by the death eaters would have been Ron because he was a pure blood, Then again they knew he was a weasley who were probably one of the staunchest enemy families of the death eaters so truly no matter how powerful any of them were none of them would have been accepted into the ranks
Hermione was too intelligent to side with a racist against her own kind.
Did Hermione find her parents after Voldemort's defeat? Could she somehow restore their memories? Is it theoretically even possible? What if she had previously created some 'backup drive' for their memories? Did Lockhart know how do to such kind of magic?
Well, yes. Because she never wiped their memories. That's just a movie thing. In the book she uses a charm to give them alternative identies and memories. She also plans to find them, and reverse the charm once the war was over.
Also interesting would be: what if muggle borns with magical Potential wouldnt go to hogwards.
Even ignoring that Hermione is a muggle born and acknowledging that she has a little bit of a dark side this would just be too out of character for Hermione. We're talking about the founder of SPEW here. She would never join the Death Eaters
I think Voldemort would have never allowed Hermione to be a death eater because she was a mud blood she was on Harry Potters side before that and I just think no matter what she would never betray Harry and Ron and the whole of Dumbledores army
book ron would be a scarier death eater because a lot of book ron's achievements and qualities were given to movie hermione and ron is a pure blood
It wouldn't have gone smoothly. Conflict wouldve escalated to murder in short order. Wizards are serious about blood purity. Hermione was ceaselessly bullied for being muggle born while at Hogwarts, under Dumbledores nose, but alone among Deatheaters....
A Death Eater Hermione likely includes whoever recruits her fudging their genealogy to make her a lost branch from a disgraced member who ran off with a muggle, thus upgrading her to just a low blood purity witch.
She would not have been on his radar until after the battle in the Department of Mysteries. Snape would have been told to stay Potions Master and would have made sure she got his old book. He would have had to have turned away from Dumbledore first for it to work. A year of grooming would have been necessary and would be irresistible to her. At the end of year six, she would have fled with Snape and would have been back at Hogwarts with Draco for year seven.
She never would have gotten with Ron and would have shared the key Intel about Neville, or may have simply poisoned him. Ron too. Harry would be hiding out with Creature, stuck in ambiguity as the boy who hid. At some point, Belatrix would have gone to her house and killed him after torture first. Or worse, used a love potion to compromise him and let him do the rest. Of course, Hermione may have let Riddle in on the secret and would have simply recruited Harry rather be than trying to kill him.
Herimone would be incredibly valuable to Voldemort. Something like Snape (if he hadn't switched sides). And with info about Harry probably more.
But Voldemort would not recognize this value.
He thought he knows Harry better than anyone else, with also believing in him having the greatest plan and deepest knowledge.
@@Alwarin1 That's true. And on that note, he would never make Hermiona even fake deatheater (like Grayback). She was "mudblood".
8:54 *ahem, grindlewald is still alive….
If it had gotten to that point, where harry was dead, and dumbledore the only one capable of standing up to voldemort, i think he would have released grindlewald, but ising an unbreakable vow to ensure he would only attempt to bring down voldemort.
Of course grindlewald being old and weak, would need time to recover his strength, but I think if dumbledore gave him the elder wand, which wpuld be a foolish thing to do if he didnt know grindlewald was also dying, and would need every advantage. I think grindlewald would be able to gather enough followers from Europe to fight voldemort after his takeover
you should do a video about luna lovegood having tom riddle's dairy instead of ginny.
I would really love to know your theory behind what would happen if Snape couldn’t bring himself to kill Dumbledore! But please keep doing the great work you are doing!!
What if Ron had not come back?
What if Dumbledore had not given him the delluminator, allowing his return?
Would Harry and Hermione have succeeded just fine on their own?
Before watching I have one simple question: Why would the Death Eater's ever accept a muggleborn?
I don't think she ever would have been a full death eater, similar to the situation with Fenrir. BUT I DO think that Voldemort would have JUMPED at the opportunity to recruit Hermione, who he could manipulate and use to mess with Harry.
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How would Severus have reacted? He was a spy after all.
I can’t imagine Hermione ever being a Death Eater honestly. Moreso, I can imagine Ron going dark.
Ron definitely had it in him to go dark. Hermione was Harry's most devoted friend. Ron? Not so much. Turned on him without a thought. And look at the way Percy went for a while. I hope he does one on Ron.
The thought of Hermione joining Voldemort sent a shiver down my spine!
What if McGonagall turned to a death eater
Could you do a theory on harry killing Voldemort and becoming the new dark lord?
"It's Avada kedavraaaaa not avada gedabra"
What do you mean what if ron betrayed harry.
Every movie showed he was the kind of person who would!
It should be expected not surprising!
Hermione basically kept Harry from dying or doing really dumb stuff for 7 years straight
More than that, had it not been for Hermione he would have either been chomped by Lupin or kissed by the Dementors. I can't remember how it played out in the books but at the lake it was Hermione that convinced Harry to cast his own Patronus. Moreover if it wasn't for the time turner he wouldn't have been able to save Sirius or himself anyway.
The only time she ever spent time with her parents during the holidays was year 1 that I remember. Highly doubt that would cause her to change allegiance.
Impermanence curse is more likely
Ummm she spent the summer in France with her parents in Prisoner of Azkaban.
The relocation and memory charm thing was in "The Deathly Hallows part 1" not "the Order of the Phoenix".
She could have also BETRAYED Vokdemort and NOT told him about that fact. With her power and Voldemort dead she could have likely LED the Death Eaters.
This is like saying what if Padme knew Palpatine was a Sith Lord and became one with the Dark Side XD
So, Hermione a "Mudblood". So Ron was the only one that could have betrayed Harry.
There would be no stopping them. Defeat will be impossible. They we’re extremely intellegent, applied themselves to every subject, members of the Slug Club, prefects in their fifth year, started two powerfull societies DA and The Death Eaters, highest marks on their exams. She could be just under Bellatrix. She could even beat Harry easily. No need for a third wizzarding war because with Hermonie and Lord Voldermort, victory would just happen.
Do what if hermonies parents where wizards after all! And also I think Voldmort would have won from the start thanks to Hermoines smarts!
You are pronouncing it wrong. It's Avada KeDAvra, not Avada KedaVRAAA
lolol
you should do a video about lily potter is alive during harry's years at hogwarts.
The only flaw is that they wouldn't even consider her a witch, she'd just be a muggle to them; being muggle born and all...
Pretty sure they'd never let her join even if she did turn evil. Death Eaters are all about pure blood extremism, and Hermione is muggle born. They would refuse her and kill her simply for that reason alone.
Seriously similar idea was bouncing in my head for last few weeks
(All becouse I was messing recently with one of my lego shelfs (one with potter minifigs) and I put Belatrix like hair on hermione minifig)
I think not just Hermionie's parents treten will cause this, hocrux will work either. Just how Lucius done to Ginny, same trick can apply to Hermionie. Kreacher and Peter knows how good the trio are together. Just need to let the tio having conflics such as Victor's letter, DA betrayal
Voldemort ONLY recruited Death Eaters with power/status in the magical world. There's NO way they would ever accept a muggle-born child into their ranks. A sympathizer? Maybe. A snatcher? Sure. An actual Death Eater? Never. Ron, on the other hand...
I think Hermione would’ve double crossed Voldemort, she wouldn’t have told him about not being able to kill Harry. She would get to that point in the room of prophecies but have D.A. Ready for backup at which point she could still work on Voldemorts side and leak information the same way Snape did, knowing that the only way to truly save her parents would be to ensure that Harry would live. Both she and Snape would relay information and ensure the victory for Harry.
What is at least one Slytherin student had joined Dumbledore's Army? Bonus point if the same student managed to infiltrate's the Inquisitorial Squad.
I think I see the major flaw in this theory. Hermione was a muggle born. Death Eaters were pure blood supremacists. The others, Yaxley, Rowell, Avery, the Malfoys, and especially Bellatrix Lestrange would never, never have allowed this! The other flaw is that turning color is totally outside of Hermione's basic, fundamental nature. Comparing her to Fenrir Grayback is I think a complete red herring.
Some of these what ifs are not plausible, like for instance after her parents were kidnapped that Hermione would change sides and believe in Voldy's cause. Not going to happen and she wouldn't give them any really useful information like taking Harry's blood protected him. Just not going to happen, at her first chance she'd betray Voldy.
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I prefer to see the original version with hermione being part of the threesome that were the good guys, anything else in regards to any of those three doesn’t seem to be viable to me!
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@@romainsavioz5466 what do you mean?
@@davidkennedy8929 read what you wrote
@@davidkennedy8929 the "threesome" thing
uh, I don't know how to explain it without youtube yeeting the comment
Can u do what if Lupin was not a werewolf
The question isn’t if Vold would allow her to join, but why would she agree with his goals. And if he's making her parents hostages, she would never help him for real. The only way would be if Hermione was from slytherin from the beginning, having the same abilities but with evil character.
I don't think Voldemort would of EVER accepted Hermoine into his ranks, as a Death Eater, or anything else. He simply could of never trusted her.
all this wont happen cuz snape would know and warn dumbledore
Should Hermione’s parents be held hostage to betray Harry, I would love seeing the golden trio go on a secret rescue mission.
I get that this is an alternative version of events, but it doesn't really make sense. Hermione is muggle born, so she would never be welcome among death eaters. Even half blood death eaters were viewed with disdain by the others.
Sure, that's just a stupid idea. Death Eaters would never accept a "Mudblood", they might torture her for information
What if lily potter became a death eater to protect harry
And voldemort would have a great and powerful witch on his side and someone who knew how to get to Harry Potter and to those he cared about and use them against him, and would have won the war of hogwarts and of the two worlds.
I can see Hermione trying to kill Harry by betraying him. This would lead to Ron sacrificing himself to save Harry.
Now this I can get behind.
Can you maybe make a video about snape? What if Severus snape did betrayed Dumbledore and he was on Voldemort side
Honestly, this scenario is so unlikely, I'm having trouble wrapping my head around it. I totally agree that if Hermione went to the dark side, it would have been over for Harry and the rest. However, there's just no way it could have happened. Sure, she went to extreme measures to protect her parents in the Deathly Hallows, but I don't think she would have switched sides if they were taken hostage. She wouldn't betray everyone else she loves, or her own values for her parents alone. And let's be honest, she isn't winning any "Daughter of the Year" awards anyway. She only sees them for a few weeks out of the year, and often cuts any time she does have with them short in favour of being back in the wizarding world. Of course she wants to protect them, but I think she would sacrifice them if it came to that.
And of course there's the elephant in the room: She's a muggle born and there is no way the Voldemort would have allowed her to join. Fenrir Greyback is an entirely different case. Voldemort saw halfbreeds, like werewolves, as lesser than full witches/wizards, but not worthless. He saw muggles as trash to be disregarded. He saw muggle born witches and wizards as abominations. He called them thieves, and accused them of stealing their power. Even in the highly unlikely event of Hermione developing a Belatrix level of conviction for the dark arts, she would still be tortured and killed on the spot.
If Hermione didn't reverse the Memory Curse that she used on her parents for the greater good after T.M. Riddle died, then she is morally bankrupt, if not malevolently inclined.
This of course is forgetting the fact that Voldemort would never let a mudblood into the ranks. The wierdest and stupidest yet entertaining HP theory I have come across.
1. It wouldn't happen because the Deatheaters were terrorizing wizards and witches who were offspring of muggles. 2. Ron wouldn't because the Deatheaters considered his whole family as "bloodtraitors"
But snape was half blood, and was one of voldemorts most loyal servants
This is good but voldemort would never let a muggle born be a death eater
It is a neat concept but even if her parents were held hostage I don't see her actually helping voldemort
Here’s an idea, what would’ve happened if in the fifth book, the order of the Phoenix Bellatrix would’ve switched sides
That theory would be end the all good in wizarding world. Heormine Voldemort Right hand so close to Harry would ben so fatal. Herormine would been Voldemords most deadliest death eater she so smart and 1 off talented witches in her time! But the fact that she is muggle is mindblowing!
Still don't know why Voldemort didn't take this prophecy himself, it was about him too
What happens if two of the same animagi mate?
I don't think Voldemort would recruit a Muggle-born to the Death Eater cause, no matter how desperate he was to kill Harry. Slytherin House itself only accepts "pure bloods" and "half bloods", and Voldemort represents the most extreme form of that ideology.
I can see him abducting her parents and threatening to harm them if she didn't do his bidding, as you said; but that's not the same thing as *being* a Death Eater. You need to have the Mark to be a true Death Eater, and I see a 0% chance of Voldemort bestowing that blessing (in his mind) on a Muggle-born, no matter how much he required her services.
Likewise, I don't see how Hermione could actively support an ideology and movement that seeks her annihilation. What would she think would happen to her once Voldemort won the Second Wizarding War? That she would be the *one* Muggle-born that he would spare? I just don't see it, but it was an interesting video nonetheless. Keep it up.
I can not phantom the idea of Hermione ever becoming a Death Eater because she was a Muggle Borne and would not be in their opinion be eligible to become one in their ranks for that reason.
Can I have a theory if Parvati Patil participated in an adventure with Harry and his friends, please?