US Air Force Genius Method to Transport 40 Tons of Jet Fuel by Plane

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  • Welcome back to the Fluctus Channel for a compelling analysis of how the US Air Force transports and manages the millions of tons of jet fuel required for the day-to-day powering of its numerous aircraft and bases worldwide.
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  • @smithgov
    @smithgov Рік тому +726

    The US's logistics capabilities are mind boggling. I was in Afghanistan for two years and was never ceased to be amazed of how much material we could get to a land locked country on the other side of the world.

    • @Tokyodrift786
      @Tokyodrift786 Рік тому +23

      There is absolutely no doubt about it Robert however I think it's only because of Americas remoteness. For eg if you take into account the great wars America wasn't directly affected by land , sea or air. Other countries for eg Britain , France were comparatively slow with their logistics as they were impacted directly and were just near to the epicenter of the war. Apart from that technological advancements have helped them to a very large scale.

    • @kallekula74
      @kallekula74 Рік тому +65

      Yes, and you left it all to the talibans, Great job!!!

    • @savvyinfo9762
      @savvyinfo9762 Рік тому +7

      Ups or fedex will bring it to u , lol if it was a different country like China or Russia or powerful country u won’t dare have a chance to bring anything , Afghanistan is ooor country with no military

    • @hrdcpy
      @hrdcpy Рік тому +10

      @@savvyinfo9762 It must not snow where you're from.

    • @savvyinfo9762
      @savvyinfo9762 Рік тому +1

      @@hrdcpy depends on what state I go to lol but my state have snow sometimes 😉

  • @xyzguy5903
    @xyzguy5903 Рік тому +405

    We did this in the late 60's in Vietnam. Used C-123 Providers and C-130 Hercules aircraft, with large bladders in the cargo area. Only 1 on the C-123, or 2 on the C-130. Usually diesel or JP, never smelled any gasoline though. Every week we had to make flights to outlying units, usually by C-123, land on metal runways (loud !!), pull up to the POL area which was often just a collection of barrels, and offload the required fuel. Take off and go to the next stop, if we had fuel left. Lots of fun. As a note, we sprayed Agent Orange the same way. Bladder in the back, fly the C-123 low and slow, and discharge through sprayers in the back. Spilled a lot of that stuff on the floor, and we walked all through it. "It isn't toxic to humans, only kills whatever plant life it touches". Yeah, right.

    • @goingbonzo5923
      @goingbonzo5923 Рік тому +11

      Thanks for that. I'm so glad I was fortunate enough to be part of Mother Mac then AMC. It's a decision I made after my brother told me not to go into the army. Thanks big bro and Air Force.

    • @anthonybielstein9483
      @anthonybielstein9483 Рік тому +5

      We still do it on the herc. And on the tankers, there's a huge fuselage tank (that's removable of course) that carries the bulk of the transfer fuel.

    • @earlsmall9808
      @earlsmall9808 Рік тому +11

      With you brother. Landed on 50 plus runways over there out of Saigon and Da Nang.

    • @martinpollack2013
      @martinpollack2013 Рік тому +2

      I was in the supply squadron with the POL guys who always smelled like JP4. When I was in NAM I heard about a 123 that was hit by a mortar when off loading the Diesel for the trucks. The crew including the POL guys were lost.

    • @rubenombat4033
      @rubenombat4033 Рік тому

      P

  • @billepeters03
    @billepeters03 Рік тому +48

    I hitched a ride on a KC-10 at McGuire AFB, NJ to Portland, OR. It was roughly five hours to fly out to the refueling racetrack pattern over the Pacific just west of Portland and Seattle. We descended to 28,000 feet to start refueling 4 -F15s and 4-F18 and gave each one 3,000 pounds and landed in Portland. About an hour later all 8 jets landed in Portland and I was fortumate to meet each one of these guys on the ground as they came thru the opns center. It was a training mission for each jet as well as aircrew training on the KC-10. The captain flying the KC-10 was a United Airlines pilot as his civilain job. It is a fantasic experience to get to meet some of these professionals. You are not going to fly from Portland non--stop and refuel 5 times enroute over the Atlantic to the mid-east unless you are a real pro. thank God Ameica has men like this willing to risk their lives for our safety. I'm retired Air Force myself and spent 5 years in Vietnam with B-52 combat operations and did that on 7 trips across the Pacific while trying to rasie 5 children. It is not easy.

    • @robbieklein6162
      @robbieklein6162 Рік тому +3

      Thanks for the stories and your service!

    • @guns942
      @guns942 Рік тому +3

      Thanks for the awesome description. Work on Kc-10 myself. Love it. Been around the world with this airframe.

    • @billyoung8118
      @billyoung8118 Рік тому +2

      Thank you for your service. I'm a military brat of a 22-yr retired E7. I would have been USAF myself, but developed T1 diabetes as a teen. I lived the military brat life though, moving all over the world with my dad's career.

  • @patton303
    @patton303 Рік тому +206

    We learned a lot during WWII. If you're interested in mind boggling logistics, find a book entitled, "48 Million Tons To Eisenhower" by Lt Col Randolph Leigh.
    It's about the incredible supply chain effort created to fight in the ETO by US forces in World War II. Really good read.

    • @johnfranklin8319
      @johnfranklin8319 Рік тому +8

      What’s the saying?…..”Amateurs talk weapons while experts talk logistics.”

    • @joeyjamison5772
      @joeyjamison5772 11 місяців тому +6

      “Infantry wins battles, logistics wins wars.”
      -General John J. Pershing

    • @alitlweird
      @alitlweird 10 місяців тому +4

      The logistics of WWII is one of the most impressive things about WWII

  • @ronnichols884
    @ronnichols884 Рік тому +195

    In 1975, I was involved in a massive refueling operation in Alaska.we put three rubber fuel inside C130 transports. The ice caps never retreated so the barges could not take supplies to the back slopes. They called on us to transport fuel and dry cargo up there.

    • @Tubernameu123
      @Tubernameu123 Рік тому

      LOL? Who cares> 40 years ago you helped murder people in the Vietnam war? Get a life. Move on... It is really great you murdered people for my government or played a direct role in their deaths. Possibly you should re-read "The pentagon papers". Anyhow get a life. Get some new material. Rather than being happy about your actions that were responsible for the murder of people. Before you die of old age, do something amazing to help the families of the people your actions helped murder.

    • @kneel1
      @kneel1 Рік тому +7

      nice! thanks for your service

    • @scubasteve5659
      @scubasteve5659 Рік тому +14

      lol i read your comment and im so high i thought thats what this video was about and got disappointed when the video was not in fact about your comment lmao

    • @davidmurphy563
      @davidmurphy563 Рік тому +1

      "Involved" could include a multitude of sins. I'm sure people would be interested to hear your role in the operation. I certainly would.

    • @gregjones3660
      @gregjones3660 Рік тому +2

      They dropped the ramp mid flight and he decided to let a deuce rip and fly out the back. Of course he didn’t pay for the deuce to hit Mother Earth at terminal velocity over enemy territory during tensions resulting from the Cold War… As you realize that could’ve turned the Cold War hot. What with ballistic missiles being fired off at altitude and attitude towards Earth…

  • @MrGoodnplenty1957
    @MrGoodnplenty1957 Рік тому +51

    Thanks for showing my old job. i was a KC-135 boom operator for 6 years and a KC-10 boom operator for 14 years. . Yes the boom method is one at a time, but with the faster fuel transfer rate, i could get i could get way more total fuel transferred to more aircraft faster than the drogue method, and that's not a shortcoming.

    • @user-yq6ov6ow7l
      @user-yq6ov6ow7l Рік тому +3

      Kc-135 hydro at grand forks here, where was you base?

    • @ProvokedTomcat
      @ProvokedTomcat Рік тому +3

      @@user-yq6ov6ow7l thank you both for your service!

    • @robertheinkel6225
      @robertheinkel6225 Рік тому

      I was a crew chief at Grissom AFB, for 13 years.

    • @MrGoodnplenty1957
      @MrGoodnplenty1957 Місяць тому

      @@user-yq6ov6ow7l No. i was stationed at McConnell. My crew was the first one to train on the R-model in Dec 1983. With Ellsworth being the 2nd based scheduled to receive the R's, i thought they would be looking for instructors to go there so i put in for a transfer and got Castle AFB in Jan 1984, and yep, back in to the "steam jets."

  • @ch-yq5yn
    @ch-yq5yn Рік тому +77

    It's bonkers to think about how many people and processes take place just to make sure fuel delivery takes place in the military. You start to see where our 700 billion goes every year. Sometimes I feel like our entire society is propped up on stilts. So many industries are required to keep everything running smoothly.

    • @detailingdiaries6562
      @detailingdiaries6562 Рік тому +5

      That's the military industrial complex for you.

    • @jeromemartin4731
      @jeromemartin4731 Рік тому +11

      No it's very American, their society model is based on the military and it costs them dearly, to the detriment of life and social. It is true that war is much more spectacular. While health and hospitals .....

    • @merlinobillos6818
      @merlinobillos6818 Рік тому +10

      @@jeromemartin4731 democracy is expensive.

    • @ronjones9447
      @ronjones9447 Рік тому +4

      I was a supply person while in the navy, on a destroyer we carried about 20,000 spare parts. We were a fairly small ship with a 300 person crew. Just imagine an aircraft carrier with the 75 planes in it with a crew if 5,000. The parts as well as the meals. My god, what a nightmare

    • @JohnSmith-ws1dp
      @JohnSmith-ws1dp Рік тому +9

      700 billion…pissed into the wind meanwhile people are starving and can’t heat their homes

  • @matthewmurphy8759
    @matthewmurphy8759 Рік тому +15

    I'm a fuel hauler, and have made jet fuel delivery. We have to abide by quality control standards in this process as well. The road transport tanker must only be used for jet fuel. Prior to loading, we must inspect the residual fuel and visually inspect the compartments. After loading, the fuel is tested on site, and all control and access points are sealed with numbered documentation before departure. The fuel is tested again before unloading. VERY strict. This goes for commercial jet fuel as well.

    • @billepeters03
      @billepeters03 Рік тому +2

      Yes, there can be NO Contaminents in any of that fuel or it would cause disaster to the jets using it.

    • @harleyb.birdwhisperer
      @harleyb.birdwhisperer Рік тому +1

      Good. I got a tank of dirty gas in my truck once. I’d hate to be in a plane that acted like that truck.

    • @karl8805
      @karl8805 Рік тому +1

      You can use a non dedicated trailer for jet..
      But it must be cleaned and purged before loading jet...
      I used to load jet from shell in essex or BP in kent....
      Delivered it for 2 years to london ciry, heathrow, gatwick, southend, luton..
      Easy job.
      I now bunker ships with marine gas oil 👍

    • @snakerstran9101
      @snakerstran9101 Рік тому +3

      Yeah, that all sounds good and such. Except when your in a C130 in some backwater. Then you take whatever fuel you can get from some pretty shady outfits and hope the filters don't clog before you get to a real base/airport.

  • @donaldvincent
    @donaldvincent Рік тому +108

    As an American military veteran (USN), and as a human one cannot help but be impressed and awe struck by the capabilities of our military. While other nations can do most of the things we can do; no nation in history has come even close to the scale of what we can do.

    • @connorgodfrey
      @connorgodfrey Рік тому

      china?

    • @patrickkenyon2326
      @patrickkenyon2326 Рік тому +11

      @@connorgodfrey China doesn't have the air or naval transport to project worldwide, and support it.

    • @donaldvincent
      @donaldvincent Рік тому +8

      @Connor Godfrey They are getting there but not yet. They also seem to be dependent on stealing ideas from others.

    • @freespirit7475
      @freespirit7475 Рік тому

      except stop towel heds with box cutters and stop a Chinese spy balloonhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    • @snowmochi1373
      @snowmochi1373 Рік тому +7

      Actually, Russia just proved no one can do anything we can.. No country has modern warfare capabilities like we do.

  • @Aerospaceman
    @Aerospaceman Рік тому +36

    The design and production of some of these bladders are made at ILC Dover, Frederica, Delaware. Just down the road from where I use to live in Felton. They also produced the Apollo era spacesuits.

  • @dallasyap3064
    @dallasyap3064 Рік тому +40

    Having nearly 400 large tanker aircraft is just insane. That's why the USAF air transport fleet is so flexible.

    • @david7384
      @david7384 6 місяців тому +2

      and insanely inefficient. enabled only by USA extreme GDP advantage over the world, which is disappearing. eventually we will have an expeditionary force that is extraordinarily weak at the actual line of contact

    • @cliffordmiddleton4967
      @cliffordmiddleton4967 6 місяців тому

      Exactly. Most Americans do not realise that the USA can't keep this up. Especially with the pressure growing from BRICS. It will be non existent in 25-40 years time

    • @cliffordmiddleton4967
      @cliffordmiddleton4967 6 місяців тому

      *Logistical capability will not be anywhere near the same in 25-40 years

  • @jamarjames9501
    @jamarjames9501 Рік тому +193

    It's always good to remind the Russians how important logistics are while giving them a quick fix to the supply lines.

    • @jackmclane1826
      @jackmclane1826 Рік тому +14

      You mean a quick donation from a Himars, right?

    • @seth34567
      @seth34567 Рік тому

      No offense but the Russians just suck at this. Nothing in this video is new information or ground breaking.

    • @jackmclane1826
      @jackmclane1826 Рік тому +12

      @@seth34567 Fuel trucks aren't fancy at parades... ;)

    • @RKarmaKill
      @RKarmaKill Рік тому +5

      Assuming Russians have similar logic....

    • @jamarjames9501
      @jamarjames9501 Рік тому +5

      @@RKarmaKill They seem to have plenty of vodka

  • @robertheinkel6225
    @robertheinkel6225 Рік тому +4

    I hate to break the news, but bladder tanks date back to the KC-97 refueling tanker. (1950s). It was a modified cargo plane to haul fuel.

  • @scuddrunner1
    @scuddrunner1 Рік тому +7

    That's how my dad flew AC-119's from Dayton Ohio to Phang Rang Vietnam in 1969. I saw them when I was 13, he and 5 other planes flew through McChord. :-)

  • @york2600
    @york2600 Рік тому +17

    NY ANG uses these bladders in C-130s to deliver fuel from McMurdo Station to Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station all the time.

    • @robertmoore3863
      @robertmoore3863 Рік тому +1

      They was use in nam to fire fuel and water but they been know to busted open a lot

  • @gilbertdelgado6703
    @gilbertdelgado6703 Рік тому +11

    I’m an old fart now but I was fortunate to be in a position when in the Navy to take part in refueling aircraft, both delivered and received. I also did the same as a guest of the Air Force. Hats off to all those air crews.

  • @MdTheST
    @MdTheST Рік тому +5

    Never knew the black bird is that massive before. The refueling really gives a better idea how big it is.

  • @michaelernst3731
    @michaelernst3731 Рік тому +56

    JP-4 was phased out for JP-8 in the very late 90's 1) it was very flammable , 2) The Air Force would only need 2 fuel types in inventory, 1 - JP-8/DL-8 ( DL-8 replaced Diesel for ground vehicles/generators) and MUP (Military Unleaded Premium).

    • @embededfabrication4482
      @embededfabrication4482 Рік тому +1

      of course they need premium, works just fine on regular but they MUST have premium

    • @garmack12
      @garmack12 Рік тому +5

      @@embededfabrication4482 The actual cost of the fuel is small compared to the cost to transport it for military use. I suspect they may actually need premium for things like small drones with little high compression engines and small training aircraft absolutely need high octane fuel.

    • @Iexpedite1
      @Iexpedite1 Рік тому +4

      We never had premium. It was a problem for a few specially vehicles, but otherwise, we didn’t use it. The only vehicles that I recall having issues were U2 chase cars. They would run on regular, but for some reason the maintenance guys said it caused them problems.
      Those were the primary grades, but there were summer and winter grades of diesel. Lots of aviation fuel varieties.

    • @michaelernst3731
      @michaelernst3731 Рік тому +2

      @@Iexpedite1 Where were you based at ? Beal, RAF Alconbury, Kadina AFB ? I was at both Alconbury and Beal we had MUP for the Gas vehicles at both bases 1992 - 97. That JPTS tore me up along with a few others. 2 died to cancer and my Raspatory System got messed up from the Icing Inhibitor additive to the TS.
      Never got a ride along in the chase cars tomany people getting the lotto for the ride. Was never lucky enough to win. 😪

    • @Iexpedite1
      @Iexpedite1 Рік тому +1

      @@michaelernst3731
      No, I worked around the U2 at Istres, France and later Osan, Korea. The jets left Istres and moved to Aviano for a few months. I followed them to Aviano.
      At Aviano, my boss had easy access to chase car rides. The rides were used to build relationships with the host base leadership. He went several times with different important people.
      Once he had schmoozed a relationship with the host base, ride along spots opened up for the people on his team. I just never asked to go...
      I had a guy that worked for me go on an incentive ride on an F-16. Now I would have jumped at the chance to do that, but I never got the opportunity.
      The incentive flight happened to be fragged to do some dissimilar combat training with a German F-4. So instead of just flying around for a hour or so, he got to do some actual combat maneuvers against a foreign military aircraft.
      I've spent some quality time with JPTS. I don't have any issues from it...yet.

  • @eagerlawncare3700
    @eagerlawncare3700 Рік тому +11

    That's so weird because when I was in the airforce, we had to purge those same bladders with water for I think 30 minutes.. and then purge it with an air hose for 6 hours before folding them up and putting them on that exact aircraft

  • @stephenwdalman2659
    @stephenwdalman2659 Рік тому +35

    I was a crew chief on this plane. They are fun capabilities are pretty impressive. Just their ramp can hold as much as the entire c-141.

    • @davidcliff4549
      @davidcliff4549 Рік тому +4

      Chief,
      You might be correct in that the -141 had a normal cargo load of 72,000#. It could carry 89,000# in 24 specific aircraft built to carry the Minuteman and Polaris missiles. BUT, in the -141, I carried items like Navy propeller shafts that are too long to fit in the -17. Both aircraft were / are good aircraft but, it did take a lot of work to bring the -17 up to it's design weight-range specs. The -141 did that on flight number one. That spec was 50K of load, carried non-stop from Kansas to Germany, lad on roadways 50 feet wide and 9000 ft long, ERO, depart straight ahead to the UK with IFR reserves. Not bad for an aircraft designed and built in the early 60's. Oh, my credentials... C-141 FEAC with 6600 hours in type... Both A and B.

    • @robertheinkel6225
      @robertheinkel6225 Рік тому +1

      I started out on the C-141. Don’t have a clue what it could hold.

  • @qasim5279
    @qasim5279 Рік тому +2

    You know what a country is upto when they have 750 military bases in 80 foreign countries

  • @charlesbunch2848
    @charlesbunch2848 Рік тому +6

    I use to do this in the Air Force back in the 70's. We hauled to 3000 gallon bladders in a C-130 and the pump module on the back door. Ir was called bladder birds.

  • @tchab5890
    @tchab5890 Рік тому +56

    We did this on the C-130 numerous times in theatre and we also transported heavy construction equipment to dirt strips so they could make runways capable for landing "C-17s" 😎.

    • @ed-pb2rm
      @ed-pb2rm Рік тому

      RED HORSE

    • @joeysprojects9081
      @joeysprojects9081 Рік тому

      Let me guess…..ab201

    • @ddegn
      @ddegn Рік тому

      The C-130 and C-17 need different sized bladders, right?
      Does the whole plane smell like fuel with those bladders onboard?

    • @rufittawah7009
      @rufittawah7009 Рік тому

      favorite story to tell?

    • @Giizk
      @Giizk Рік тому

      @@ddegn looks like a very little leakage when they detach the hose, probably smells like your average gas station 4:23 (notice they look away to avoid fuel spewing into their eyes lol)

  • @Wutzmename
    @Wutzmename Рік тому +3

    I love it when the military performs its "Elephant Walks".👍🏻

  • @shivachauhan9769
    @shivachauhan9769 8 місяців тому +1

    Being an indian we feel proud to be in C-17 fleet🎉🎉🎉

  • @johnwayne3085
    @johnwayne3085 Рік тому +1

    C17s with a HAHO (high altitude high opening)delivery and smaller prop planes with a LALO (low altitude low opening) delivery, those were fun because we would set up "goal posts" for the pilots to aim the pallets at.

  • @d-obvious
    @d-obvious Рік тому +8

    they were using bladders in the high Artic over 30 years ago when I worked for pancandian oil n gas at Rae Point. we also used em for surface fuel storage on the pack ice

    • @trvman1
      @trvman1 Рік тому +3

      Man, it seems to me like one mistake and there could be a disaster. The way they do this. Gotta give them a LOT of credit. This is no easy task.

    • @d-obvious
      @d-obvious Рік тому +2

      @@trvman1 you wanna try refueling a slippery cat tractor at 40 below. there is no where safe to step. we endured it and learned to help each other. no Hero work in those conditions. we did what had to be done and did our best to ensure we all survived it. some of our cats fell thru the ice and the operators were unrecoverable.. mineral and oil development is a dangerous business and not for the faint of heart

  • @chucklucas8747
    @chucklucas8747 Рік тому +5

    We shipped fuel bladders that were placed in areas in the desert for refuel stations for ground vehicles an aircraft I understand it worked like a charm

  • @timw8646
    @timw8646 Рік тому

    this is why us military will ALWAYS be the best in the world. attention to details is so important.

  • @valuedhumanoid6574
    @valuedhumanoid6574 Рік тому +1

    The B52 raid in the Gulf War demonstrated the logistical power of the US. The bombers took off from the states, flew to Saudi, launched their weapons, then returned to the states. I believe it took 57 refueling tanker ops. And then the build up prior to the war in Desert Shield was equally impressive. The old saying "armatures focus on tactics, professionals focus on logistics" is how we operate. Worrying about tank battles is not as important as worrying about keeping them fueled. The guys on the ground will do what they have to do, just get them what they need to do it has always been key

  • @talahib3668
    @talahib3668 Рік тому +4

    So proud of those men and women in the US military.

  • @georgehenry76
    @georgehenry76 Рік тому +4

    I enjoyed this at 1.5x playback speed.

  • @Warpgatez
    @Warpgatez Рік тому +1

    Love the APS guy kneeling doing pointless hand signal and not helping with the pallets. I’ve helped load cargo on the bird a lot during missions and I’ve never seen someone do that. Once the kloader is in you don’t have to do what he was doing.

    • @snakerstran9101
      @snakerstran9101 Рік тому +1

      Hey, camera time for John Wayne.

    • @Warpgatez
      @Warpgatez Рік тому

      @@snakerstran9101 it’s just silly lol. But I guess you’d really only know he isn’t actually helping the team unless you’ve helped load cargo yourself and worked on these planes.

  • @cliffordmiddleton4967
    @cliffordmiddleton4967 6 місяців тому +1

    Americans understand the need for logistics, the same way our empire relied on its logistics.
    To dominate/control foreign countries. The states have always been up to something. They realised the vast amount of natural resources that they sat on, and calculated that they could achieve global dominance. I'm 100% sure this would have been discussed somewhere at some point in US history.

  • @Citadin
    @Citadin Рік тому +3

    Enjoyed the technical side of this presentation, a lot of work goes into these operations, most of which unglamorous.

  • @chandrachurniyogi8394
    @chandrachurniyogi8394 Рік тому +3

    by far the best informative video on the USAF . . . real good work on the video, hats off to the thousands of men and women of the USAF . . .

  • @marvindebot3264
    @marvindebot3264 Рік тому

    We used to fly diesel in 1000 litre IBCs strapped down in cargo 727s into dirt and gravel strips in Africa every day. Nothing beats it for keeping the pulse up!

  • @davefellhoelter1343
    @davefellhoelter1343 Рік тому +1

    as a fueling manufacturing, storage, or distribution tech in the civilian world of all types of fuels from gasses, liquids, and all temps or pressures? I LOVE THIS STUFF!!

  • @725niko
    @725niko Рік тому +3

    13:41 watching those C17 engines rock around got me 😳 I’ve never seen that much movement on jet engines compared to the rest of the airframe

    • @thomasmann3560
      @thomasmann3560 Рік тому +2

      I noticed that too, maybe it's just a visual effect from the camera frame rate? Its so quick I can't tell if it's actually moving or a camera shake

    • @725niko
      @725niko Рік тому +1

      @@thomasmann3560 yea possibly. It looked like that to me but.
      That would def have me concerned if I was riding inside the cockpit of that thing and look over at some engines bobbing around lol.

  • @mamdouh-Tawadros
    @mamdouh-Tawadros Рік тому +8

    I have always dreamed of a mid Atlantic, mid pacific.. etc flying drone tanks that can remain stationary even if it were to be powered by nuclear energy (to be able to function for years and years) !

    • @keirfarnum6811
      @keirfarnum6811 Рік тому +1

      Like in that movie “Stealth.” They showed a huge airship that stayed aloft for long periods to deliver fuel.

    • @dallasyap3064
      @dallasyap3064 Рік тому

      @@keirfarnum6811 Reminds me of that too. If that thing was real, then it's super cool.

    • @davidscbirdsall
      @davidscbirdsall Рік тому +1

      Liquids are heavy. It costs a lot of money to constantly hold all that weight vertically up in a fairly stationery location. This is why rockets require so much more robust fuel producing exponentially more thrust to lift vertically up against gravity. It's much more efficient to fly horizontally using wings in air to create lift.

  • @paw45
    @paw45 Рік тому +1

    The c17's wings generate so much lift. That inflight reverse thrust is sometimes necessary to decrease elevation.

  • @SDCDIABLO
    @SDCDIABLO Рік тому +2

    Use to do this all the time with 2 bladders in an ATR in canada's north for heating fuel etc, was always a good time lol if it works it works!

  • @bradabbott4892
    @bradabbott4892 Рік тому +8

    I was a pol guy in vietnam in 1970 and yes we filled and delivered fuel all over the country in everything from c7a caribou c123 c130 ch47s in rubber bladders of all sizes

  • @astudentpilotlife
    @astudentpilotlife Рік тому +3

    As a line service technician. We also serve the military and have to di those test daily, weekly and once a month.

  • @nobsss9163
    @nobsss9163 Рік тому

    I remember being shot at inside one of these…it’s so sturdy and strong barely felt the vibrations of rounds exploding outside the windows !

  • @Snowwhitepro
    @Snowwhitepro Рік тому +1

    So nice to hear the men speak about the operations they did in these fine mashines

  • @EpicThe112
    @EpicThe112 Рік тому +6

    Some Aeroplanes like the E-3 Sentry C-130J RAF versions can have both the flying boom and probe method. On the E-3 Sentry right side probe while having Flying Boom. For newer tanker Aeroplanes the boom operator is placed on the cockpit where the old engineer position is if applicable.

  • @ronaldnovo2794
    @ronaldnovo2794 Рік тому +10

    It's crazy how they transport all that fuel in essentially reinforced zip lock bags.

  • @jeanpierrefaye7356
    @jeanpierrefaye7356 Рік тому

    Bravo aux ingénieurs pour le magnifique boulot 🙏🙏🙏

  • @wheresthewall8599
    @wheresthewall8599 Рік тому

    Big thanks to all working Americans that’s why our military are the best in the world.

  • @thomasmann3560
    @thomasmann3560 Рік тому +5

    The absolutely insane amount of fuel used by our country is mind blowing. I don't understand how we haven't run out of fuel already. I'm scared for the future. If we can't move Tons of fuel to remote bases, how will we defend from a far.

    • @FightingSportsMedia
      @FightingSportsMedia Рік тому +3

      You take over local fuel/oil sources where the war is.

    • @patton303
      @patton303 Рік тому

      There's a reason we've barely tapped our own vast petroleum reserve resources.

    • @beloskhanania5645
      @beloskhanania5645 Рік тому

      Once the democrats move everything into solar and wind power, then there will nothing to worry about. Planes will be able to refuel off the wind and the sun. I guess no more night missions.

    • @optimusprime5166
      @optimusprime5166 10 місяців тому

      I herd somewhere that America has about 800 years of oil reserve. We just don't have the equipment to bring it out.

  • @IvoryDraco
    @IvoryDraco Рік тому +3

    My goodness America is gorges, and American military is beautiful!

  • @h.i.sjoevall4213
    @h.i.sjoevall4213 Рік тому

    Freedom. Justice. Democratic governance. Thank you America for defending our shared core-values. ⚖🗽🇺🇸

  • @newhampshirelifestyle4233
    @newhampshirelifestyle4233 Рік тому +1

    Just think of when the Air-Force "goes green" to fight climate change and uses battery powered aircraft!

  • @Iexpedite1
    @Iexpedite1 Рік тому +3

    This all looked pretty good, but they didn’t talk about hot pitting. Planes land and with engines screaming. You walk in under them and refuel. It is a method designed to rapidly turn jets.

    • @ronnichols884
      @ronnichols884 Рік тому +1

      Used hot refueling on the A-10s at England AFB Louisiana during exercises.

  • @andrewj9831
    @andrewj9831 Рік тому +4

    most of the jet fuel is shipped via ship...not plane. What they are showing is for different short term things

    • @ronnichols884
      @ronnichols884 Рік тому

      Our operation was to fly all of the fuels needed for the winter at the four bases on the back north slope of Alaska. This included all aircraft fuels and diesel and gas. The polar ice cap never retreated far enough for the barges to get through.

  • @dondamon443
    @dondamon443 6 місяців тому

    The Air Force has adopted JP-8 as the go to fuel type since the early 2000's. JP-7 was the fuel used in the SR-71 because if it high flash point, making it a very safe fuel to use. JP-8 is also very high on the combustion side. The Navy first used that fuel long before it became the U.S. Military standard.

  • @VickersDoorter
    @VickersDoorter Рік тому +3

    Having liquid fuel measured in pounds is unfathomable. I can think in litres and gallons, but pounds, I'm out in the wilderness. It must be an American thing.

    • @Chris11249
      @Chris11249 Рік тому +1

      Fuel volume expands and contracts depending on altitude and temperature, but mass doesn't change (unless you go to orbit lol)

    • @harleyb.birdwhisperer
      @harleyb.birdwhisperer Рік тому +1

      Gasoline, 6#/gal., water, 8.35#/gal. I don’t remember the rest, they’re all in the Loadmaster’s checklist.

    • @sexigrande1792
      @sexigrande1792 Рік тому +1

      Fuel weight stays the same and that’s critical so aircraft don’t go beyond max take off weights

    • @whjerts
      @whjerts Рік тому +1

      They have to know the weight of everything that goes into a plane.

    • @harleyb.birdwhisperer
      @harleyb.birdwhisperer Рік тому

      @@whjerts And where it is on the plane. Loadmaster fills out a form DD365F.

  • @Jameski07
    @Jameski07 Рік тому +3

    Air Force fuels guy here. It aint and hasnt bean JP-4 in 35yrs. Airforce has been delivering JP-8 or JAA now for a long time. JP-4 goes back to the early 80's.

    • @anthonybielstein9483
      @anthonybielstein9483 Рік тому +1

      Yep. 130 FE here. When i was in school we had an instructor walk up behind us and flip his lit cigar into a 5 gal bucket that was half full of JP 7. All 7 of us dove for cover and he just stood there laughing his @ss off! Jet fuel is FLAMMABLE, NOT COMBUSTIBLE!!!

  • @jimmarshall5453
    @jimmarshall5453 Рік тому +2

    Rubber fuel bladders were loaded with av gas and flown over the Himalayas during WWII by B-24 Liberator aircraft. My dad was a pilot on 24 of those missions. Any spark could light them up. The planes designed for 10,500 pounds of bombs were instead carrying 16,500 pound of high test av gas, thus 3 of 10 air crew members were left at home as well as the heavy twin 50 cal machine gun bubble on the belly.

  • @AnandDharan-tf1jo
    @AnandDharan-tf1jo Рік тому

    Great video! Funnily enough, it reminded me of an episode of Seinfeld in which Kramer wants to design an storage bladder for oil tankers to prevent maritime oil spills

  • @SchlenkAir
    @SchlenkAir Рік тому +7

    They were fueling SR71's air to air before 1991, we could always tell when they were going to take off in Okinawa because the tankers would leave a hour prior to get to altitude. I was in the SeaBees near Kadena Airbase 1987. As I understood it the SR71 leaked until the skin got up to temp and needed to refuel shortly after take off??

    • @toober1066
      @toober1066 Рік тому +3

      Absolutely. Even with titanium skin the expansion of the panels at supersonic speed was too great to allow for a complete seal of the fuel tanks at ambient temps. It didn't stop leaking practically until it was supersonic. Wild machine.

    • @Chris08TT
      @Chris08TT Рік тому +1

      Fun fact: thermal expansion was not the only reason why leaked so so much, but because the whole aircraft was just a gas tank with a cockpit and a camera. The fuel that it used was especially made so it was also the coolant and it was also used as oil lubricant. No separate tanks the whole thing was one massive gas tank the skin of the plane was the only thing holding together hence why it leaked so much.

    • @msgtpauldfreed
      @msgtpauldfreed Рік тому +1

      @@Chris08TT not completely accurate. Engine oil was a solid at room temperature if I recall correctly, it was not the fuel. Fuel was used as a coolant for certain portions of the airframe. I watched my share of Blackbird takeoffs at RAF Mildenhall in the 1980s. Cool plane. when it went int afterburner for takeoff, you could feel your sternum vibrate if you were close enough (and, yes I was, several times).

  • @Jennycute990
    @Jennycute990 Рік тому +4

    Truly a great power. In terms of weapons as well as logistics, there is hardly any other country in the world that can match.

    • @mac9954
      @mac9954 Рік тому

      and go down like a sinking ship 🛳 🛳

  • @TankumiJuwemi
    @TankumiJuwemi 18 днів тому

    every video you upload is a gem, filled with wisdom and fun!

  • @davidgekler
    @davidgekler 11 місяців тому

    I had the pleasurer to be on the documentary crew for Douglas on the C-17 from laying of the "keel" to the fist flight. it is an awesome plane!

  • @robtk3
    @robtk3 Рік тому +36

    700 to 800 billion dollars a year protecting... our right to unaffordable healthcare.

    • @Azakadune
      @Azakadune 20 днів тому +7

      *protecting American interest and dominance
      Aka protecting your way of life. Americans don’t realize how good they have it.

    • @mainelyastro4694
      @mainelyastro4694 19 днів тому +1

      Just volunteer to donate 70% of your salary and convince millions more Americans to do the same and you can have universal healthcare. Simple.

    • @luischiarelli2788
      @luischiarelli2788 19 днів тому

      Bro thinks money grows on trees

    • @user-ei9tq4yx7s
      @user-ei9tq4yx7s 18 днів тому

      Good point!

    • @carlosperezsala3353
      @carlosperezsala3353 17 днів тому +3

      @@AzakaduneThe American Way of Life is turning into a nightmare where you need tons of money just to survive

  • @Star_Gazer_77
    @Star_Gazer_77 Рік тому +3

    That’s an Extremely Scary load, we have the KC 130 here in Knoxville

  • @davidcarlin3850
    @davidcarlin3850 Рік тому +1

    God bless the United States Military. Thank you all for your service.

  • @toddburgess5056
    @toddburgess5056 Рік тому +2

    Walked through a C-5 Galaxy in the early 2000's at an airshow at the Bangor international airport.

  • @michaelbentley4211
    @michaelbentley4211 Рік тому +3

    Bladders were used in Vietnam to transport fuel.

  • @krrk6337
    @krrk6337 Рік тому +3

    If you ever wonder why we can't reduce greenhouse gas...

  • @user-qk8dj7bg2n
    @user-qk8dj7bg2n 10 місяців тому

    Bravo aux ingénieurs pour le magnifique boulot . Bravo aux ingénieurs pour le magnifique boulot .

  • @Nobody-md5kt
    @Nobody-md5kt 6 днів тому

    Tactics wins battles. Logistics wins wars.

  • @cliffordmatson9566
    @cliffordmatson9566 Рік тому +4

    The C-17 produced by the same company that produced the latest model of the Boeing 737. This aircraft had many problems, but the military threw enough money and changes at it to make it work for a while.

    • @robertheinkel6225
      @robertheinkel6225 Рік тому

      The C-17 was built by McDonnell Douglas, which was acquired by Boeing.

    • @georgeleavell6832
      @georgeleavell6832 Рік тому

      Boeing builds the 737.
      McDonnell Douglas designed and built the C-17. After the C-17 was designed and most of them built, Boeing merged or acquired McDonnell Douglas so they became the same company AFTER the C-17 was produced.

  • @travisrogers5263
    @travisrogers5263 Рік тому +3

    Have you ever wondered how a jet holds fuel period? Giant rubber bladders in the wings and mid section. Not a giant leap that you might transport it that way.

    • @_zproxy
      @_zproxy Рік тому

      or there is no fuel in the wings

  • @Chironex_Fleckeri
    @Chironex_Fleckeri Рік тому

    Everybody likes the fighter jets but I like the BIG jets. The US military has all the coolest planes.

  • @ThaTurminator
    @ThaTurminator Рік тому +1

    I feel like it woulda been faster and more efficient to just reverse a tanker trailer onto the plane and disconnect it from the cab.

    • @karl8805
      @karl8805 Рік тому

      No trailer legs can cope with fuel sloshing about in a trailer though..

  • @cressida00
    @cressida00 Рік тому +3

    F ing genius USA military logistics again. Big love from Australia.

  • @jorgemairena2289
    @jorgemairena2289 Рік тому +3

    Gracias fluctúa me imaginaba tankes metálicos o plásticos como los de ahora en vehículos. Saludos

  • @OddBeardActual
    @OddBeardActual 6 місяців тому

    I slept traveled across oceans as well as jumped out of them,amazing machines.

  • @maundamartin59
    @maundamartin59 5 місяців тому

    It's amazing that the Earth pumps out so much jet fuel,you would think the wells would be DRY LOOKING AT THIS.

  • @joesanchez979
    @joesanchez979 Рік тому +3

    Never seen the process before 👍

  • @Peichen01
    @Peichen01 Рік тому +4

    Good God, C-17 burnt twice as much fuel as it transports. 35546 gallons to transport 3x6000 gallons

    • @andrewj9831
      @andrewj9831 Рік тому +2

      The plane burns 21K pounds of fuel per flight hour...not gallons. There's 6.75 pounds per gallon, so roughly 3111 gal.

  • @Retired88M
    @Retired88M Рік тому +1

    I used to haul photo chemicals in rubber bladders in specially equipped 48 foot semi-trailers in 1984 for Eastman-Kodak where we hauled the bulk chemicals north and boxed chemicals south on dedicated runs. Probably the trucking company got the idea from the Air Force.

  • @jaigdhiman
    @jaigdhiman Рік тому +2

    Really appreciated the way of supper working. Thanks Brave warriors and scientific advances method. Thanks

  • @williamturner1517
    @williamturner1517 Рік тому +4

    At $40. to $80. per gallon depending on final air base.

    • @billepeters03
      @billepeters03 Рік тому +1

      If you think about it does cost a lot to fly 40 tons of fuel 7,000 miles. The further you have to go the more it costs.

  • @h2s142
    @h2s142 Рік тому +4

    Weve been doing this for at least 20 years 👌

    • @earlsmall9808
      @earlsmall9808 Рік тому

      We had them on the C-123K, C-130 and probably C-141 in Vietnam

    • @harleyb.birdwhisperer
      @harleyb.birdwhisperer Рік тому

      Not C-141’s. I crewed on those & C-123’s. Did bladders on them in the ‘60’s, so 60+ years.

  • @IbnBahtuta
    @IbnBahtuta Рік тому +2

    That has to cost serious money, but what an operation.

    • @harleyb.birdwhisperer
      @harleyb.birdwhisperer Рік тому +2

      Cost isn’t important when it’s military. You want speed and quality, price be damned.

  • @neddyladdy
    @neddyladdy Рік тому

    Yes. this is almost exactly what I need to learn to do in my life.

  • @LongHaulTrucker4Life
    @LongHaulTrucker4Life Рік тому +4

    Roughly 10k gallons, not very efficient in my opinion

    • @marcuspeluso109
      @marcuspeluso109 18 днів тому

      It’s ok us tax payers pay for it not them

  • @warpedbeyondhelp
    @warpedbeyondhelp Рік тому +36

    War is soooooo incredibly wasteful.

    • @garychandler8521
      @garychandler8521 10 днів тому +6

      But necessary!

    • @GibDib
      @GibDib 9 днів тому +1

      @@garychandler8521yes

    • @maxbobbigames
      @maxbobbigames 8 днів тому

      Make peace not war!

    • @timw6546
      @timw6546 8 днів тому

      How's Ur smart phones going for ya

    • @adrian2381
      @adrian2381 8 днів тому +3

      @@maxbobbigames Unfortunaly peace requires war

  • @harry2928
    @harry2928 Рік тому +3

    Excellent video tour of a miniscule portion of U.S. Military complexity. 👌🏻

  • @FrankJames-vk1fy
    @FrankJames-vk1fy Рік тому +1

    My friend was the guy who flew in the back of the refueling jet.
    He told me he would lay down in the back and use a joy stick to fly the module (I don't know what it is called) to the opening of the other plane. He said he was in constant fear, having millions of gallons of fuel on board.
    Now he is a postal mechanic...much safer job.

    • @billwilson3609
      @billwilson3609 Рік тому +1

      I once worked a man that "flew the boom". He said it could become nerve wracking at times.

    • @FrankJames-vk1fy
      @FrankJames-vk1fy Рік тому

      @@billwilson3609 Yes, the BOOM!!! Thank you, I could not remember what it was called.
      Whew, now I can sleep....lol

    • @raypitts4880
      @raypitts4880 Рік тому

      @@FrankJames-vk1fy also millions of gallons????
      molaquals may be.

  • @fahedkhan96
    @fahedkhan96 11 місяців тому

    Very useful and important documentary and information, ever seen as a US citizen 🇺🇲

  • @pascalfust1035
    @pascalfust1035 Рік тому +5

    Interesting in technical and strategical terms. I question the efficiency of these operations, as 40 tons of fuel can potentially fill the fuel tanks of only four FA-18s.
    I furthermore wonder, why they make such a huge story about transporting fuel instead of just filling the tanks of the "transport" aircrafts at their most, and release part of the aircrafts fuel at destination...

    • @paulcapps103
      @paulcapps103 Рік тому

      J k o

    • @jwaustinmunguy
      @jwaustinmunguy Рік тому +1

      I think that you need this capability to sustain an expeditionary force that is deployed where you haven't prepositioned resource stockpiles which include fuel.

    • @Iexpedite1
      @Iexpedite1 Рік тому

      The aircraft leave the ground with all the fuel they can hold or land with. Where they are landing or taking off from has a lot to do with their load out.
      I worked a site in Central America. It was in the middle of the jungle. No roads just trees. The Army needed a helicopter refueling point there. They built a makeshift runway, dropped a double wall tank on the ground, and kept fuel in the tank with C130 deliveries. The Army was chasing drug runners with helicopters. They needed fuel where they needed fuel.
      It’s very inefficient, but the goal isn’t always efficiency. There are times when efficiency takes a back seat to capability.

    • @snakerstran9101
      @snakerstran9101 Рік тому +1

      @@Iexpedite1 I got in on that with C130 off loads in Central America. Usually a bladder like shown here was laid out on the ground near the end of the runway. We taxied up, grabbed some rough looking hose connected to the bladder, drug it to and connected to the 130's own fuel supply and gravity drained what fuel we could afford to give up. Keeping in mind having enough fuel to get back was priority. That bladder fuel was mostly used in smaller amounts in ground equipment and small acft flying local.
      The bladders aren't really feasible to load larger acft. Most times those acft get fuel from overland tanker trucks or fuel ships at bigger bases.

  • @chinashorts1491
    @chinashorts1491 Рік тому +3

    This is excellent editing and sound scaping.

  • @raufjaleel8317
    @raufjaleel8317 Рік тому

    "Do we need weapons to fight wars? Or do we need wars to create markets for weapons? "
    Arundhati Roy

  • @ghpatriot
    @ghpatriot 6 місяців тому

    My favorite part was the multi tool being used to pry open the hose clamp, I felt that.

  • @IIIRotor
    @IIIRotor Рік тому +12

    I've wondered how much all the Jet-A1 actually cost, that were consumed by all the Private jets that were in Davos this past couple of weeks... and I am so grateful to know that it was my CO2 tax, that sponsored all of that, and that it was used so eloquently and effectively in preventing and ultimately stopping our planet's climate from ever changing again, in the not to distant future.

    • @keithfreitas2983
      @keithfreitas2983 Рік тому +1

      I currently think it's $3 a gallon including pumping cost.

    • @benjurqunov
      @benjurqunov Рік тому

      But why don't they support homosexual special rights ?

  • @nickduplaga507
    @nickduplaga507 Рік тому +4

    Or they could air drop replaceable batteries, and origami solar panels. Then the tanks could even have rail guns, and laser weapons.