Good pace and positive lines, nothing stupid when caught up in traffic..patience and smooth overtaking...type of rider I want sit behind and learn the ring from...
That Apex Schirmer BMW M3 is a beast and those guys drive around the Nordschleife for a living, so even keeping up with them is an impressive feat, let alone overtaking them while making it look effortless.
@@benjamincs1 Probably both in fast cruise mode about 8/10 IMO. Bear in mind crashing on a bike at the ring is not good for the health. The ring taxi is carrying passenger/s so is probably holding back on mid corner speed and late braking. Crashing also would be bad for the car and potentially for the occupants but not as dire as crashing the bike of course. Taxi probably gets better economy and longer tyre life by driving at 7 or 8/10ths and maybe passengers may tend to vomit (:. This is not a race, just a nice video on tourist day demonstrating how quick bikes are in a straight line and how corner speed is not that different at high speed but the car's braking and mid corner speed on slow and medium turns is superior. That is generally what I have found out over the years. A car with reasonable performance driven well by a competent driver will catch a bike on winding slow and medium speed sections, heavy braking on short straights into numerous tight bends, rapid change of direction in S bends and acceleration out of slow turns in slippery conditions. Any straight longer than 100 metres and it's bye bye superbike. It depends on the lengths of straights and the exit speed onto straights as to if the bikes straight line performance negates the cars advantage under brakes and through turns. We are talking high performance road vehicles here, not Le mans slick shod, winged race cars that people tend to bring up in these discussions about performance road cars and bikes.
You can just see the effortless calm and patience of the bike rider. Look at his reflection. He doesn't even have to lean at these speeds... until the BMW is behind him, then off he goes. Beautiful to watch.
Dont have much expirience on bike or tracks, but when I watch my videos, it looks slower and effortless - and truth is that I "fought for my life on the bike" 🤣 Great ride, but I guess it was harder ride than it looks 😉
@@Faceoff1984 Probably riding 8/10's perhaps 9/10's sometimes. Car probably similar 9/10's pace under brakes and through turns but giving it the stick on the straights. The rider was sitting calm and riding smooth, well within his and the bike's limits. The driver also, being the Ring Taxi, with a passenger would hold off a bit but still going relatively quick. Mr V4 wasn't fighting for his life and has done a very good job of surviving long term fast bike riding by riding sensibly, Fast but sensible.. You don't get to middle age by being an on-the-edge hero riding a superbike, especially with very fast mixed traffic like on a Ring Tourist Day.
As an ex biker it’s amazing to see how far cars have come in the past 10-15years. Before a 600 would easily see off all but the most insane cars but now there’s so many truly rapid cars around that despite how far bikes have also advanced the gap between them seems a lot closer than before.
Good rider.... loved the way he stuck behind the taxi for a while, and I'm thinking is he just warming up the tyres?, then Boom off he goes. Love it. Well done.
I got exhausted out of excitement just by watching this video. And I see comments below that say 'This guy was cruising". Awesome job My V4, enjoyed every second of it. Cheers from India.
Very impressive. Not often, in this day and age, I can sit through a video of that length without a break or a quick "fast forward". Thank you for posting.
It's a race track in Germany. If something goes wrong an English driver would instinctively vere to the left. The sign is there so he won't do that and pull out into the overtaking lane.
Damn!! I ride on regular trackdays (mid pack A group) and I don't think I would dare take on the ring on a motorcycle. The narrow roads, traffic and high kerbs are really something. Great safe and fast riding. You're a fantastic rider.
So i own an m3 but am partial to my motorcycles. This is just amazing, motorcyclea have gotten to a point where mere mortals cannot get even close to their limit.
hi, the bmw apex ring taxi is a highly modified 500+bhp, racing car, with a professional racing driver at the wheel, i was not surprised by just how fast the car is. it was a pleasure to follow such a awesome car being driven so well and just shows how cars and bikes can share the ring. cheers
@@MrMickyandrews Must be very confusing on a bike. I only used rental cars when in UK, so there was always that in-built reminder by different layout of controls.
Pay attention you people that say that fast cars will ALWAYS beat fast bikes around the ring. Fast road bikes ridden by good riders will be competitive with fast road cars driven by good drivers as this video clearly demonstrates. The consequences for crashing are higher so not many riders have the commitment, skills and consistency to push their bikes to the limit and this guy on the Dacati was not on the limit, more like 8 or 9 tenths. Maybe the BMW wasn't on the limit as well. Those sub-7 minute full circuit car lap times are with sharply honed factory cars with a team of factory mechanics. Most showroom supercars and superbikes driven and ridden by skilled owners would be proud to beat 8 minutes BTG. Motorcycles haven't raced at the Ring officially for nearly 25 years. Motorcycle manufacturers are never involved with attempting record ring times. Nearly all bike laps are on tourist days with mixed traffic. Kawasaki had a promotional lap of 7.50 by Tim Rothig which was foolishly claimed as a record by whom? I don't know. Helmut Dahne still has the production bike record at about 7.49 for the full circuit. It was with a Honda RC30 750 V4! This is way, way behind the performance of current bikes such as BMW 1000RR, Yamaha R1 etc. Brendan, on a rebuilt, crashed Yamaha R1, has a video which shows about 7.10 for a BTG. Nurburgring is just too dangerous for bikes but professional riders of the caliber of John McGuinness, Bruce Anstey and Michael Dunlop on current production superbikes, would push 6.50 for the full circuit IMO. For example, Mark Higgins, former British Rally Champion, in a 600 hp Prodrive Subaru WRX, lapped 35 seconds slower than the fastest producton bike. That was in a highly modded and lightened race car with nearly 3 times the power of the stock car. Two years earlier, in a lightly modded production WRX, he lapped over 2 minutes slower than the production bike times. Mark Higgins was born on and lives on the Isle Of Man and knows the circuit like the back of his hand.
Great comment. A RC30 750 compared to a 1000cc new bike is a dinossaur!!!! And tires are much much better now. No doubt that 7.49 would be smashed by a lot!
That was exactly what i was thinking. Cars are not always faster. A good rider is as fast a car in the corner. Only big spoilers that cause much downforce are something a bike cant beat
Exactly and also bike producers know that a record attempt is pure stupidity - crash on a track like Nurbrugring brings ultra high death risk for rider, while nova days crashing with a correctly equipped car (rollcage, race belts, fire extinguisher system etc.) usually might mean some bruises and maybe few broken bones.
Apex taxi drivers are some of the best...indeed moritz kranz who frequently drives the m3 has numerous cup and Nuremberg 24hr wins.. From memory the m3 engine is standard but they’ve uprated everything else. Very unlikely he was pushing much beyond 7/10 th’s ...imo Very fast bike ridden well within its capabilities by a very good rider 👍
Much respect to this rider. He obviously has major skills. But with that said cars hold every lap record on every race track in the world (Road course, Drag strip, Oval, Rally course, Land speed etc.). Cars don't compete on the Isle of Man. A race prepped Subaru is hardly the ideal car to go around the Isle of Man because it's a top speed circuit. A raced prepped 911 GT2 or better yet a full blown race car like the Porsche 919 Tribute would be a better choice to set the lap record for that track. I love bikes and I love cars. No bias here just stating the truth.
That's my guide to "The line round The Ring" sorted. Beautiful riding and that's from some one who has spent their motorcycling life (34 yrs road riding so far) thrashing round the English Lake District
If I said Dalston, hump back bridge, GPz, adjustable rake frame would I be remembering correctly? If I have, you and the me have met one another. Andy.
very good riding there my friend,and the way you showed sense when not going for the line with the yellow clio,shows your road sense.total props to you,keep it shiny side up.
Nice! I had a visceral experience while sitting safely at home. I would love to ride the ring on a V4, but too old now; happy to watch and enjoy.Thanks for the experience.
Thibaut Frantz the real mvp how good those electronics are, this is the best example ive seen showing how discrete the TC and anti wheelie is on a street setting, useful for such a undulating and bumpy track. I see why youd want to tone then down as pace increases though that would get annoying having it cutting in so frequently
Staggeringly good riding on what's known as a difficult track for bikes. I didn't hold much hope out for the Ducati but once it was properly opened up it just kept going! Thanks for sharing some awesome riding skills.
I really enjoyed this! Took a course there in -92 and long to get back with another course. Have been riding there a couple of times since the course and consider driving at The Ring as a great lesson in handling ones bike.
Love the patience- I have seen to many riders and drivers in person and on youtube think they are in some sort of championship and force past a slower car or bike, theres just no need and will only risk a crash of either party or both. Honest good riding and very curious and SAFE here. I had a E30 M3 nearly wipe me out twice then he crashed into the armco from stupidity and driving way to aggressive- made a real mess of his pride and joy and he didn't look a hero in the carpark on the back of the ring flatbed and guess didn't smile much as he got the bill from the ring for the damage he caused and the recovery costs.
The bike allows you to customize your modes where you can pick different engine modes even on the street setting. That's not to discount his riding by any means, as it's still very impressive.
Traction Control (TC). If you didn't see it flash, you wouldn't even know it was working - it's that good. In 'Street' mode, it has a default higher setting than 'Race' (as in, more intrusive), but again in practice, you won't feel it. When you see it flashing when bike goes over a bumpy part of track, it's just because of the brief 'unloading' of the back wheel - totally, totally normal. Only time I even think about it is if the road is wet - then I'll have it (and every other nanny!) full on. On normal, shorter tracks, then you start playing with it at the other end, as it will allow a bit of controlled sliding. This sounds far freakier than it really is - and first time it happens, it does tend to lead to a bit of a 'brown leather' moment, as you realise you are NOT Dovi or Davies, and should NOT be sliding the @rse of your £24k baby, but once you get used to it, you then learn how much to use and where best to use it - you even begin to start playing with it, it's THAT good! Funny enough, though World Superbikes have TC like production machines, British Superbikes aren't allowed it, so probably only race series on planet that the race versions are 'dumbed down' from their road brethren (though clearly, BSB bikes have plenty of other attributes about them to more than compensate! Haha! ;)
I’ve pooped my pant more then once watching this video. I only wanted to try out my new iPad but I wasn’t prepared for that. Your driving skills is out of this word. Stay safe!
Awesome vid and without a doubt, awesome riding. The Beemer was pretty fast, a good race, and you took the lead of course. I enjoyed watching this vid! PEACE...
even under 6'40 a rider of Isle of Man could do if he wanted and there was some protección... I think (no sure anyhow) that Murtario with a R6! laps in 7'23 ir 7'20...with traffic...he would do under 7' with an Aprilia or Bmw...
It's a myth that 1000cc bikes will outperform a 600cc bike on a track. The time difference on a circuit (Unless it's just long straights) with decent enough corners will be tenths of a second. Sometimes a 600 would be faster too, it's lighter, more agile and you can carry a whole lot more speed into the corners on a 600. Murtario might struggle with a bigger bike.
Not true. Take Phillip Island for example. Best Lap on a MotoGP bike -> 1'27.899, Best Lap on a Moto2 bike -> 1'32.470. Thats almost 5 seconds faster on 1000cc, on a 4.4km track. The Nordschleife has a shit ton of straights and it's around 20km so thats even a bigger time difference. @@iUsman975
Hehe THATS BS.. i ride 1000cc and hits my revlimiter every gear so many can get the most outta a 1000cc but you need to be a good rider yess.. 80% of the guys owninowning a 1000cc is probably to Pussy to REALLY get the best outta them.. i ride a zx10r gen1 THE widowmaker 50whp less then the New bikes and NOT 1 guy on BMW v4 or WHAT not follow me still there are fast guys every now and then but it's far between them
Great riding, love the sounds, the speed, but the one surprising this is the acceleration and speed of the car, at 3:27 the bike isn't gaining that fast, and is doing 180 mph.
FURBALL I would imagine someone of this pace has probably changed sprocket sizes to dial in his bike a bit and has thrown the speedo out. Probably doing a bit less than 180.
lmfao yea but he was behinde another car and lost ground you need to build speed to gain if this was a longer satright you would have seen the difference.. Its like on aa reular track if you race a 600cc and you are on a 1000CC then the 600cc has a perfect exit corner speed and acceelration then you come 5meters behinde (in the vid it was ALOT more then 5 meters lkol)) and fuck your exit acceleartion the 600cc is gone and you will never cath him trust me I KNOW before the main stright is done even on a 700-800M straight no BS.. you will gain but then its time to go on the brakes casue you are on a 1000cc and need to brake earlier becasue of the sheer speed difference.. DO YOU GET IT???? ALso this is the BORSI BMW M3 whcih has 525rwhp soo its not a slouch still 500whp in a car vs a 1000cc bike HAHAHAHA thats even easier kill then a 600cc vs 1000cc race..
@@Rajvirdee Can you proof this somehow? The manuals I know say "Riding Mode Street - The Street Riding Mode is the one recommended for road use of the Panigale V4. This RM offers the rider 214 HP power delivery with progressive Ride-by-Wire response to throttle opening, like in the Sport RM, and, in the Panigale V4 S and Panigale V4 Speciale versions, an extremely soft suspension set-up to absorb any bumps in the road. The default setting of electronic controls helps ensure maximum safety, by guaranteeing the best grip and stability. "
antithesis Hi I’m so sorry you may be right. My dealer told me that street mode was 150 or 160BHP but your right. Can’t see it in the manual ! Thanks for correcting me. Appreciate it
@@Rajvirdee your Dealer dont have any fucking Idea.But i can anderstand not everybody they work in a Bike smShop know everything about Product they selling.
hi the rider is the first guy that looks in to the camera, he was with andy carlie and i chatted to them about the ducati v4, this guys fast but not as fast as andy.
So sad this bike shows mph. I didn't properly understand the speed. Anyway I saw 181 mph which is around 292 Kph. I any case bikes'grip is much more critical than cars'one. And even Nurburgring is for bikes because for many reasons so tipically cars are fasters here (not always of course). In a more traditional (let's say modern) circuit in ideal conditions last sports bikes are as competitive as supercars on lap time and most times fasters for what I saw personally. Not mentioning formulas. That's another world
I found it difficult to understand your sentences. Perhaps it would be better if you use more full stops and put distinct ideas into separate sentences. I don't think it is sad to see MPH on the speedometer because I am in Australia. They used MPH until the 1980's I think. Then they changed to kph and the metric system for everything else as well. So automatically I can convert the speed in my brain and associate the figure with exactly how fast it is in KPH. I don't even convert mathematically in my head. I know instinctively what the numbers mean as a rider or driver and the physical and visual sensations those speeds create.
@@droceretik Thankfully still using mph/miles here in the UK but there's a bloody big sway to metric particularly at the supermarkets were it all has to be in metric and we went to litres instead of gallons 30 years ago. I ride a pushie (as you Australians call it) fairly seriously and I'd never change to km though can like yourself easily convert, luckily was taught both metric and imperial at school.
Good pace and positive lines, nothing stupid when caught up in traffic..patience and smooth overtaking...type of rider I want sit behind and learn the ring from...
lol i was at the ring and tried to follow him to learn some lines, i managed to followed him for about 200 meters then he disappeared lol
@@rvf7505 haha..kinda thinking that myself lol
I agree Stuart, although it might be hard I wouldn’t give up till I keep up ;-)
There were a few overtakes that I thought could have been made safer, but everything else was smooth and fast
@@edugamer950 Right! Your an expert production race instructor and track day tutor? Which school do you run?
Ehh why so slow..
Then you realize its in MPH 😱
Didn't take long to notice it was mph, just watch the scenery going by 😀
I feel you took me also quite a while
Proper speed recognition - MPH
Wanna really see fast???
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I don't think it's MPH
That Apex Schirmer BMW M3 is a beast and those guys drive around the Nordschleife for a living, so even keeping up with them is an impressive feat, let alone overtaking them while making it look effortless.
552 dislikes, clearly I have missed something. A true gentleman lap, safe, smooth and fast. 552 12 year olds I'm guessing.
nah, just BMW drivers...
@@DoYouLikeThisName I drive an X3, be more specific dude, 318 drivers.....
Lol I’m a bmw driver. More like people who ain’t got the balls to race and are hating on others. Go 5 series
Probably people that don't Ride lol
why would a 12-year old dislike this? Weird logic.
Tidy, consistent , as safe as it could be, and well beyond me 👍
@Wayne Smith when ur progressing its not just about how fast u can go ..Nice and consistent throttle work
Thats a well shaked brake fluid :)
Shaken.
Thanks for the correction mate
Thank goodness he’s not in race mode
Always prefer mine shaken, not stirred.
Shookly
Judging by the revs the bike was just cruising )) safe riding
It wasn't even in race mode. Just Street mode 👌
And riding in "Sport" mode in lieu of "Race"
@@martinmoran89 I think race mode isn't suited for the ring, suspension would be too stiff and would make the bike bounce around
Maybe the BMW was too...
@@benjamincs1 Probably both in fast cruise mode about 8/10 IMO. Bear in mind crashing on a bike at the ring is not good for the health. The ring taxi is carrying passenger/s so is probably holding back on mid corner speed and late braking. Crashing also would be bad for the car and potentially for the occupants but not as dire as crashing the bike of course. Taxi probably gets better economy and longer tyre life by driving at 7 or 8/10ths and maybe passengers may tend to vomit (:. This is not a race, just a nice video on tourist day demonstrating how quick bikes are in a straight line and how corner speed is not that different at high speed but the car's braking and mid corner speed on slow and medium turns is superior. That is generally what I have found out over the years. A car with reasonable performance driven well by a competent driver will catch a bike on winding slow and medium speed sections, heavy braking on short straights into numerous tight bends, rapid change of direction in S bends and acceleration out of slow turns in slippery conditions. Any straight longer than 100 metres and it's bye bye superbike. It depends on the lengths of straights and the exit speed onto straights as to if the bikes straight line performance negates the cars advantage under brakes and through turns. We are talking high performance road vehicles here, not Le mans slick shod, winged race cars that people tend to bring up in these discussions about performance road cars and bikes.
You can just see the effortless calm and patience of the bike rider. Look at his reflection. He doesn't even have to lean at these speeds... until the BMW is behind him, then off he goes. Beautiful to watch.
thanks
Dont have much expirience on bike or tracks, but when I watch my videos, it looks slower and effortless - and truth is that I "fought for my life on the bike" 🤣
Great ride, but I guess it was harder ride than it looks 😉
@@Faceoff1984 Probably riding 8/10's perhaps 9/10's sometimes. Car probably similar 9/10's pace under brakes and through turns but giving it the stick on the straights. The rider was sitting calm and riding smooth, well within his and the bike's limits. The driver also, being the Ring Taxi, with a passenger would hold off a bit but still going relatively quick. Mr V4 wasn't fighting for his life and has done a very good job of surviving long term fast bike riding by riding sensibly, Fast but sensible.. You don't get to middle age by being an on-the-edge hero riding a superbike, especially with very fast mixed traffic like on a Ring Tourist Day.
Professionel driving.
Not doing any dumb stuff and having good patience with slower drivers 👍❤
Keep op the good work and share more Videos plz
Whatever that means. I am sure, he shouldn't care.
One of the ring rules, Drive/Ride safe.
It IS, after all a public (TOLL road)highway. German Highway laws Still apply during touristenfahrten.
3:26 293 km/h
Kosta HD that’s a liter bike for ya
While cornering lol. I've never even experienced 250 kmh on the highway
@@SuperIceman44 IF and when you do, Make sure it's as safe as you can make it,
Only Harley’s I have ever seen do more than 200 km/h were those Nitro-meth drag bikes.
That moment, when ur chasing a BMW M3 ring taxi with your bike while riding in "street mode" 😎👍
Yes it was in street mode! Like to see it in Race mode!!!
I saw that too! Insane! Lol
m4 gts **
Absolute mad lad
@@robingiwer474 its a F80 m3, don't talk about cars if you don't know shit
Superb rider. Always in the power band. Well aware of lines and what kills me, use of TURN SIGNALS.
Notice the taxi and other cars also doing the same, is for everyone's safety and part of the rules.
As an ex biker it’s amazing to see how far cars have come in the past 10-15years. Before a 600 would easily see off all but the most insane cars but now there’s so many truly rapid cars around that despite how far bikes have also advanced the gap between them seems a lot closer than before.
Good rider.... loved the way he stuck behind the taxi for a while, and I'm thinking is he just warming up the tyres?, then Boom off he goes.
Love it. Well done.
I got exhausted out of excitement just by watching this video. And I see comments below that say 'This guy was cruising". Awesome job My V4, enjoyed every second of it.
Cheers from India.
Amazing, goosepumps when you hit the curves with so much pace
Smooth, fast, and intelligent riding I bet it looked good from another vehicle
Your lines are near perfect, very high level riding right there
Wow, I'll just add my admiration to the acclaim! Such great riding and traffic management - goals to shoot for for this beginning track rider!
Very impressive. Not often, in this day and age, I can sit through a video of that length without a break or a quick "fast forward". Thank you for posting.
cheers glad you liked it
Fantastic ride, enjoyed every minute! Thank you... (subscribed)
Keep right!! is this a english driver?? give him memory that he must drive on the right side on the German streets!?
Yep
Mph
It's a race track in Germany. If something goes wrong an English driver would instinctively vere to the left. The sign is there so he won't do that and pull out into the overtaking lane.
@@Jungleland33 in UK to "instinctively pull to the left" puts you off the road !!!! I think its there for road use Europe
Well done Einstein.
Not a biker myself but ive been round in that M3 taxi and it is a pretty brutal machine. Hats off to you mate, much skills with a dose of bravery💪
Casual mid corner turn signal cut off at 170mph... this is sick
So that's what it feels like to be fast. Holy hell that was some brilliant riding. Super smooth. Respect.
He was Just riding not really racing, Just some fun
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That V4 engine sounds absolutely amazing! That bike is insanely fast even when it's on Street mode! Nice video and thanks for the upload!
thanks, the ducati v4 is a awesome bike
Damn!! I ride on regular trackdays (mid pack A group) and I don't think I would dare take on the ring on a motorcycle. The narrow roads, traffic and high kerbs are really something. Great safe and fast riding. You're a fantastic rider.
So i own an m3 but am partial to my motorcycles. This is just amazing, motorcyclea have gotten to a point where mere mortals cannot get even close to their limit.
Lovely riding. Surprised how fast the M3 managed to go too.
Just FYI as far as I’m aware this is not any old M3, it’s the ‘BMW M3 Schirmer GT’ ring taxi run by apex-nuerburg.com
Its not the car - its the driver.....
hi, the bmw apex ring taxi is a highly modified 500+bhp, racing car, with a professional racing driver at the wheel, i was not surprised by just how fast the car is. it was a pleasure to follow such a awesome car being driven so well and just shows how cars and bikes can share the ring. cheers
@@MrMickyandrews lovely action mate..smooth positive lines, tidy overtaking... safe lap with no drama anywhere !...long may you continue....
@@MrMickyandrews Apex themselfes say that this M3 is more heavy than the base car
Yeh another reading I’ll be changing my 959 for a 2020 V4 this year!! This is awesome. Stunning ride.
Pleasure to watch like the gear holding at high rpm round the corners then smooth back on but still fast and not teeth gritting brilliant to watch.
Love the "keep right" sticker. Thought I was the only one to tape reminders to my tank/dash
lol, the keep right sticker is the best safety feature on the bike, you know how its so easy to go on the wrong side of the road when in europe
@@MrMickyandrews Must be very confusing on a bike. I only used rental cars when in UK, so there was always that in-built reminder by different layout of controls.
Pay attention you people that say that fast cars will ALWAYS beat fast bikes around the ring. Fast road bikes ridden by good riders will be competitive with fast road cars driven by good drivers as this video clearly demonstrates. The consequences for crashing are higher so not many riders have the commitment, skills and consistency to push their bikes to the limit and this guy on the Dacati was not on the limit, more like 8 or 9 tenths. Maybe the BMW wasn't on the limit as well. Those sub-7 minute full circuit car lap times are with sharply honed factory cars with a team of factory mechanics. Most showroom supercars and superbikes driven and ridden by skilled owners would be proud to beat 8 minutes BTG. Motorcycles haven't raced at the Ring officially for nearly 25 years. Motorcycle manufacturers are never involved with attempting record ring times. Nearly all bike laps are on tourist days with mixed traffic. Kawasaki had a promotional lap of 7.50 by Tim Rothig which was foolishly claimed as a record by whom? I don't know. Helmut Dahne still has the production bike record at about 7.49 for the full circuit. It was with a Honda RC30 750 V4! This is way, way behind the performance of current bikes such as BMW 1000RR, Yamaha R1 etc. Brendan, on a rebuilt, crashed Yamaha R1, has a video which shows about 7.10 for a BTG. Nurburgring is just too dangerous for bikes but professional riders of the caliber of John McGuinness, Bruce Anstey and Michael Dunlop on current production superbikes, would push 6.50 for the full circuit IMO. For example, Mark Higgins, former British Rally Champion, in a 600 hp Prodrive Subaru WRX, lapped 35 seconds slower than the fastest producton bike. That was in a highly modded and lightened race car with nearly 3 times the power of the stock car. Two years earlier, in a lightly modded production WRX, he lapped over 2 minutes slower than the production bike times. Mark Higgins was born on and lives on the Isle Of Man and knows the circuit like the back of his hand.
Great comment.
A RC30 750 compared to a 1000cc new bike is a dinossaur!!!! And tires are much much better now.
No doubt that 7.49 would be smashed by a lot!
That was exactly what i was thinking. Cars are not always faster. A good rider is as fast a car in the corner. Only big spoilers that cause much downforce are something a bike cant beat
Exactly and also bike producers know that a record attempt is pure stupidity - crash on a track like Nurbrugring brings ultra high death risk for rider, while nova days crashing with a correctly equipped car (rollcage, race belts, fire extinguisher system etc.) usually might mean some bruises and maybe few broken bones.
Apex taxi drivers are some of the best...indeed moritz kranz who frequently drives the m3 has numerous cup and Nuremberg 24hr wins..
From memory the m3 engine is standard but they’ve uprated everything else.
Very unlikely he was pushing much beyond 7/10 th’s ...imo
Very fast bike ridden well within its capabilities by a very good rider 👍
Much respect to this rider. He obviously has major skills. But with that said cars hold every lap record on every race track in the world (Road course, Drag strip, Oval, Rally course, Land speed etc.). Cars don't compete on the Isle of Man. A race prepped Subaru is hardly the ideal car to go around the Isle of Man because it's a top speed circuit. A raced prepped 911 GT2 or better yet a full blown race car like the Porsche 919 Tribute would be a better choice to set the lap record for that track. I love bikes and I love cars. No bias here just stating the truth.
That's my guide to "The line round The Ring" sorted. Beautiful riding and that's from some one who has spent their motorcycling life (34 yrs road riding so far) thrashing round the English Lake District
If I said Dalston, hump back bridge, GPz, adjustable rake frame would I be remembering correctly? If I have, you and the me have met one another. Andy.
That is very fast but so smooth and controlled.
Ring taxi dosent hang about either, very good video!!!
"Congratulations I'm pleased to tell you that you have passed your driving test...now i need a brandy "
Non-bikers - come back when you know what it feels like to be in a bend at 100mph, hanging off the seat, wheels floating over the bumps at 10krpm
My bike only goes to 7k... :,(
Lol pretty juvenile to be impressed with such foolishness.
@@themardybum08 bro this is a racetrack, quit being all high and mighty
No thanks.
very good riding there my friend,and the way you showed sense when not going for the line with the yellow clio,shows your road sense.total props to you,keep it shiny side up.
thanks
Nice! I had a visceral experience while sitting safely at home. I would love to ride the ring on a V4, but too old now; happy to watch and enjoy.Thanks for the experience.
*he's just cruising guys, he can do faster than this*
He wasnt even going near the redline
Make it better...i think the first time on the "Nürburgring" you make your trousers wet...and cry for your mother...
hi i can go faster but chasing the bmw ring taxi makes a good video, cheers
Dont think that was 'cruising' tc is on a fair bit :)
@@thiscocks he was in street mode, lol
Keep Right ->
English biker, I guess. Has the habit of keeping left :P
@@187Killerbee thanks bro you answer to my question
Great ride. Very patient and you can tell you have more speed. Thanks for uploading.
Love this. Especially the “keep right” reminder on the fairing.
Brilliant , you have to be twice as brave on the bike.
Waiter :How would you like your Brake Fluid
V4 Rider: Shaken, not Stirred
Had much fun watching this. Very intelligent driving. Never saw a bike with this kind of well balanced suspention.
Excellent riding , smooth , quick and safe .
Clearly knows his way round too
Are the orange flash on the dash board, intervention of traction control? Seems realy smooth if it is ! Great vid! ✌️
Thibaut Frantz the real mvp how good those electronics are, this is the best example ive seen showing how discrete the TC and anti wheelie is on a street setting, useful for such a undulating and bumpy track. I see why youd want to tone then down as pace increases though that would get annoying having it cutting in so frequently
This guy was my track instructor at rent4ring!
As a car driver, I learnt a lot from watching this, like especially how vulnerable a biker is! Kudo's to this bloke!
Staggeringly good riding on what's known as a difficult track for bikes. I didn't hold much hope out for the Ducati but once it was properly opened up it just kept going! Thanks for sharing some awesome riding skills.
thanks glad you liked it.
I love this game.
-"hey, taxi driver: GIVE me My money back!!! You are a pro....And a tourist passes us just like that!!"
Hey Pablo: finally get into your Fiat Multipla and drive to the potato harvest ...
Great Vid and hats off to the rider very skilled and not even pushing to the limit.
I really enjoyed this! Took a course there in -92 and long to get back with another course. Have been riding there a couple of times since the course and consider driving at The Ring as a great lesson in handling ones bike.
I find myself turning the phone so the ground is always horizontal.
Is fun doing that tho, you can get the leaning of the bike on your phone 👍
Funny, as a biker I find myself turning my head to do the same, which is exactly what I do when riding.
I love the "keep right" sticker :-)
Very smooth, pacy and safe / excellent job good to share. I always remember my special trips
Good job. Very enjoyable. The camera with no wind noise is enviable.
"Keep right" :-)
Enjoyed that. I would like to see the camera from the car.
Just search apex m3 ring taxi on yt.
Black Beard I meant this specific footage, so we can see the outside shot of the bike.
Love the patience- I have seen to many riders and drivers in person and on youtube think they are in some sort of championship and force past a slower car or bike, theres just no need and will only risk a crash of either party or both. Honest good riding and very curious and SAFE here.
I had a E30 M3 nearly wipe me out twice then he crashed into the armco from stupidity and driving way to aggressive- made a real mess of his pride and joy and he didn't look a hero in the carpark on the back of the ring flatbed and guess didn't smile much as he got the bill from the ring for the damage he caused and the recovery costs.
Not a huge fan of the bike sound. But loved watching this. Found myself turning my phone as the rider leaned his bike! Great riding. Safe and chilled!
The moment you think 'damn hes so slow'...n then see that its mph lmao
0:03 : for a second I thought it was Beocca from The Last Kingdom lol
Me too ahahahah
Nothing like a chilled lap of the ring on a nice day with the sweet sounding v4 note playing in the background..
Passing the taxi in street mode and not even going to redline. Safe riding and good pace. Cheers, you are an awesome rider!
someone who actually drives ducatti on track :D
*Ducati
Dude has the bike on “street” mode, which means the engine is on the lowest power level, he only has 150hp... of 215 available 😳😳
The bike allows you to customize your modes where you can pick different engine modes even on the street setting. That's not to discount his riding by any means, as it's still very impressive.
Also got wheelie control and traction control turned right up hence the blinking yellow light way before redline
You don't need monster hp on a bike to go fast. Know that GP bikes limit/adjust power per corner
Great video pal and that Ducati seems to go like a rocket
Excellent ride, fast, smooth and progressive, this shows quality riding and you’ve got nothing to prove. Brilliant video thanks.
At first i thought he was Russian President Mr. Putin... 😂
What’s the orange light that keeps flashing on the top of the instrument cluster?
the flashing light tells you when traction control or anti wheelie is activated
Awesome. Thanks.
I tought it is the rev meter
Traction Control (TC). If you didn't see it flash, you wouldn't even know it was working - it's that good. In 'Street' mode, it has a default higher setting than 'Race' (as in, more intrusive), but again in practice, you won't feel it. When you see it flashing when bike goes over a bumpy part of track, it's just because of the brief 'unloading' of the back wheel - totally, totally normal. Only time I even think about it is if the road is wet - then I'll have it (and every other nanny!) full on. On normal, shorter tracks, then you start playing with it at the other end, as it will allow a bit of controlled sliding. This sounds far freakier than it really is - and first time it happens, it does tend to lead to a bit of a 'brown leather' moment, as you realise you are NOT Dovi or Davies, and should NOT be sliding the @rse of your £24k baby, but once you get used to it, you then learn how much to use and where best to use it - you even begin to start playing with it, it's THAT good! Funny enough, though World Superbikes have TC like production machines, British Superbikes aren't allowed it, so probably only race series on planet that the race versions are 'dumbed down' from their road brethren (though clearly, BSB bikes have plenty of other attributes about them to more than compensate! Haha! ;)
@@MrMickyandrews What tyres did you use,was it from cold or did you had any warm up beforehand ??
I’ve pooped my pant more then once watching this video. I only wanted to try out my new iPad but I wasn’t prepared for that. Your driving skills is out of this word. Stay safe!
Awesome vid and without a doubt, awesome riding. The Beemer was pretty fast, a good race, and you took the lead of course. I enjoyed watching this vid! PEACE...
5:45 min Ciao BMW xD
Wow, 80 mph, still in first gear!
That’s not unusual for any half way decent motorcycle. My BMWK1200s sport/cruiser does that.
@@peterkacandes5905 80 MPH?
That's why it's easy to stall them, first is very long, the rest are much closer together.
What a riding and what a bike bro, nice vid!!
This is the most entertaining Nurburgring pov I’ve ever seen
2 more days to RIDE 3! xD
even under 6'40 a rider of Isle of Man could do if he wanted and there was some protección...
I think (no sure anyhow) that Murtario with a R6! laps in 7'23 ir 7'20...with traffic...he would do under 7' with an Aprilia or Bmw...
It's a myth that 1000cc bikes will outperform a 600cc bike on a track. The time difference on a circuit (Unless it's just long straights) with decent enough corners will be tenths of a second. Sometimes a 600 would be faster too, it's lighter, more agile and you can carry a whole lot more speed into the corners on a 600. Murtario might struggle with a bigger bike.
Not true. Take Phillip Island for example. Best Lap on a MotoGP bike -> 1'27.899, Best Lap on a Moto2 bike -> 1'32.470. Thats almost 5 seconds faster on 1000cc, on a 4.4km track. The Nordschleife has a shit ton of straights and it's around 20km so thats even a bigger time difference. @@iUsman975
@@iUsman975 hahhaaha ehh NO 600cc are slower in isleofman or any WSBK or motogp and so on in fact much slower..
+Comedic Sketches your words are wise and prove experience
Hehe THATS BS.. i ride 1000cc and hits my revlimiter every gear so many can get the most outta a 1000cc but you need to be a good rider yess.. 80% of the guys owninowning a 1000cc is probably to Pussy to REALLY get the best outta them.. i ride a zx10r gen1 THE widowmaker 50whp less then the New bikes and NOT 1 guy on BMW v4 or WHAT not follow me still there are fast guys every now and then but it's far between them
There are old pilots, and there are bold pilots, but there are very few old bold pilots......you sir are a master, thanks very much for posting this.
cheers
A nice steady Sunday afternoon ride round the nerb ,, keep practicing buddy ,,at least you have a nice bike for the job thumbs up from Britain 🇬🇧
Great riding, love the sounds, the speed, but the one surprising this is the acceleration and speed of the car, at 3:27 the bike isn't gaining that fast, and is doing 180 mph.
FURBALL I would imagine someone of this pace has probably changed sprocket sizes to dial in his bike a bit and has thrown the speedo out. Probably doing a bit less than 180.
lmfao yea but he was behinde another car and lost ground you need to build speed to gain if this was a longer satright you would have seen the difference..
Its like on aa reular track if you race a 600cc and you are on a 1000CC then the 600cc has a perfect exit corner speed and acceelration then you come 5meters behinde (in the vid it was ALOT more then 5 meters lkol)) and fuck your exit acceleartion the 600cc is gone and you will never cath him trust me I KNOW before the main stright is done even on a 700-800M straight no BS.. you will gain but then its time to go on the brakes casue you are on a 1000cc and need to brake earlier becasue of the sheer speed difference..
DO YOU GET IT???? ALso this is the BORSI BMW M3 whcih has 525rwhp soo its not a slouch still 500whp in a car vs a 1000cc bike HAHAHAHA thats even easier kill then a 600cc vs 1000cc race..
True that... but look on reving of that ducati.. 10-13 gear change
Egon1982 might be wrong to be fair mate, just shocked how quick it said it was going 😂
I love this game.
Guys in street mode - just 150bhp not the full 214 !
That's wrong - the modes on Panigale V4 only change the electronics setup. Power is always 214 hp.
antithesis respectfully it isn’t. I have one and it’s in the manual and you can easily tell :)
@@Rajvirdee Can you proof this somehow? The manuals I know say
"Riding Mode Street - The Street Riding Mode is the one recommended for road use of the Panigale V4.
This RM offers the rider 214 HP power delivery with progressive Ride-by-Wire response to throttle opening,
like in the Sport RM, and, in the Panigale V4 S and Panigale V4 Speciale versions, an extremely soft suspension set-up to absorb any bumps in the road. The default setting of electronic controls helps ensure maximum safety, by guaranteeing the best grip and stability. "
antithesis Hi I’m so sorry you may be right. My dealer told me that street mode was 150 or 160BHP but your right. Can’t see it in the manual ! Thanks for correcting me. Appreciate it
@@Rajvirdee your Dealer dont have any fucking Idea.But i can anderstand not everybody they work in a Bike smShop know everything about Product they selling.
Flawless. Superb riding. You can tell it's a ducati a mile away from the sound, it's like the subaru impreza of the bike world 💯
Your lines is perfect man!! awesome video
Isn't the rider Andy Carlile?
hi the rider is the first guy that looks in to the camera, he was with andy carlie and i chatted to them about the ducati v4, this guys fast but not as fast as andy.
@@rvf7505 Ah, alright, thanks for the information! Safe riding!
British biker? THe speed is in mph, and keep right paper. Im a Sherlock, or what?
yes you are right !!
lol u are
Cracking lap that was and the Ducati sounded sweet, Cheers for posting well enjoyed it thanks :)
cheers
Unusual to see a BMW with working indicators🤣 nice ride👍😎
Apex ?
Apex.
Company offering ring taxi drives
If you want to watch a real fast rider...try typing in guy Martin vs Michael Dunlop isle of man TT.
And let it blow your mind....your very welcome.
Ahem McGuiness... Hutchinson?
Fuck......Now i've got tunnel vision and i'm seasick.
Nice Riding Fella, super smooth.
Very nicely done. Waaaay quicker than I could manage, superb control.
cheers
So sad this bike shows mph. I didn't properly understand the speed. Anyway I saw 181 mph which is around 292 Kph. I any case bikes'grip is much more critical than cars'one. And even Nurburgring is for bikes because for many reasons so tipically cars are fasters here (not always of course). In a more traditional (let's say modern) circuit in ideal conditions last sports bikes are as competitive as supercars on lap time and most times fasters for what I saw personally. Not mentioning formulas. That's another world
I found it difficult to understand your sentences. Perhaps it would be better if you use more full stops and put distinct ideas into separate sentences. I don't think it is sad to see MPH on the speedometer because I am in Australia. They used MPH until the 1980's I think. Then they changed to kph and the metric system for everything else as well. So automatically I can convert the speed in my brain and associate the figure with exactly how fast it is in KPH. I don't even convert mathematically in my head. I know instinctively what the numbers mean as a rider or driver and the physical and visual sensations those speeds create.
@@droceretik Thankfully still using mph/miles here in the UK but there's a bloody big sway to metric particularly at the supermarkets were it all has to be in metric and we went to litres instead of gallons 30 years ago. I ride a pushie (as you Australians call it) fairly seriously and I'd never change to km though can like yourself easily convert, luckily was taught both metric and imperial at school.
ohh i realize after 5min it is mph xD
That's some smooth riding and awesome lines. I can't even manage to be that clean on a 14 turn track 🤣