Thanks Hanna. I will never again 3:41 have that gut wrenching feeling of watching my ball roll back 4 times😅 like many others, who commented, my club bunkers are normally full of water so we usually allow a free drop.
Hannah congratulations on starting your channel. I very much appreciate being able tune into and watch your content. If I may say, with complete courtesy and respect, I really appreciate your no nonsense approach. I love that you are modest, professional, intelligent and matter of fact in your presentation style. Cheers once again and good luck.
Thanks Hannah - a playing partner was plugged in the bunker lip a week ago and we made him take a penalty drop into the bunker. I now know we were incorrect but won’t be telling him to avoid his subsequent bleating 😂
Love the videos on the Rules! I would love to see one on playing the ball from the wrong place … when there’s a penalty, and whether it’s one stroke or two
Great stuff, and so clearly presented! One other option that's worth keeping in mind - the "cheat code" for a one-stroke drop out of the bunker... stroke-and-distance! It can be especially useful after a short approach, or even a chip, that's been mis-hit into a diabolical greenside bunker. In this case, for just ONE stroke, you can come back out and try again from the spot you just played from. It can be a good lifeline in that type of situation. Did this on Bethpage Black #18 on a day when bunkers were a major weak point (hadn't watched your bunker videos yet. Now I love bunker shots.). Great drive on the last hole, the kind that keeps you coming back for more. Pulled a wedge hard into a deep left bunker. Let out a big "NOPE" and dropped another one down to use that one-stroke, stroke-and-distance option.
@@hannahholdengolf Well.... yes, there is that... 🤣 but hey, at that point, I'd figure that it's a sign that I'm supposed to be in there for whatever reason! Thank you for all of this on the new channel. UK trip at the end of March for non-golf activities, but I'll have to keep this in mind if I DO get to play and find myself at any of those courses with those deep pot bunkers....
Excellent Video. You provided great clarity as to how to proceed when you need a ruling in a bunker. In particular, the loose impediment information was excellent. There will always be a playing partner that will argue you can’t move that rock or leaf but you sure can! Keep up the great work and look forward to more of your content. Cheers!
Unplayable relief under 19.3a would be two club length Lateral Relief not just the one club length that you illustrate. Also, whilst you mention the two PS option for dropping outside the bunker it might have been useful to also mention that for 1PS you could drop outside the bunker under S&D from where you played the last stroke, especially if this spot was only a short distance back from the bunker.
@@adrianturner2655 yes it is 2 not 1. Yes you can do stroke and distance I guess i didn’t mention it as I would be concerned I would hit it back in the bunker again 😅
For Unplayable Ball IN a Bunker, there are 4 Penalty Relief Options. 1) Lateral Relief (2 Club Lengths Relief Area) 2) Back On the Line Relief remaining INSIDE the Bunker (Drop on Line, with a 1 Club Length Circular RA.) And as with ALL BotL Relief, the Circular RA must be outside what would be the Lateral RA. 3) Stroke and Distance Relief from where the Ball had been before hit into the Bunker. 1, 2, and 3 are each 1 Penalty Stroke. The 4th Option is the Back On the Line OUTSIDE the Bunker, which is 1 Penalty Stroke for Unplayable Ball and a Second Penalty Stroke for Dropping OUTSIDE the Bunker. As for Measuring "Club Length(s)" the "Longest Club in the Bag, that is NOT a Putter" - MUST Be used. Since a Dropped Ball MUST Remain INSIDE the Relief Area, one cannot Shrink the RA by using a Shorter Club, because 2 Failed Drops then allows the Ball to be Placed.
@@apaulmcdonough2170 Couple of things not quite right there. There is no requirement under the Rules to physically measure a Lateral Relief Area; the "longest club" (excdg putter) is purely a unit of measurement, e.g. say 46 inches, there is nothing in the Rules preventing you using a Wedge (measuring say 38 inches) as long as your drop stays within 92 inches of the Reference Point. Also, there is nothing in the Rules that requires your Reference Point (within the bunker) for a BOTL drop to be outside the 2 club lengths area that would otherwise be available under Lateral Relief.
@adrianturner2655 Check the Definitions of "Club Length" and "Relief Area". One only gets "92 inches" if one has a 46 Inch Club in the Bag. A Ball must stay INSIDE the Relief Area after being Dropped and coming to Rest. 2 Failed Drops allows a Player to Place his Ball. Lateral Relief and Back On the Line Relief aren't interchangeable for a short distance Backwards.
@@apaulmcdonough2170 I appreciate you are struggling to understand the nuances of these Rules so I'll try to help; firstly, remember there is no requirement under the Rules to physically measure any Relief Area, you can just go ahead and drop the ball. You made two emphatic statements "the longest club (excdg putter) MUST be used " and "you cannot shrink the relief area by using a shorter club" - those are both incorrect statements. If I wish to mark an area with my my jumbo length putter (56 inches long) or alternatively my Wedge (38 inches) and drop initially within either of those then I can do so - the Rules only require that I drop a ball within (in this case) a unit of measurement that equates to my two club lengths from the Reference Point, so, as I explained to you, if my driver is 46 inches long that gives me 92 inch semi circle not to drop outside of (or the dropped ball run out of) - please see the Definition of Club Length, which I previously quoted, "A club-length is a unit of measurement": With regard to BOTL, please quote me the Rule number which says that a player is excluded from taking BOTL relief within 2 lateral club lengths back from the location of the ball. Thanks.
A guy at our club is a R&A ref. Playing with him is great, I’ve learnt so many rules that we should know. I think he gets fed up with all the questions I keep asking him
The other case for bunkers is when the bunkers become temporary water. With all of our rain this year, our bunkers were basically ponds, so many times we were dropping out of the bunker in the nearest point of complete relief.
This depends on what local rule your club brings in! The committee can bring in local rule F-16 which allows you to drop out of the bunker. If that isn’t in play you have to drop in the bunker or take a one shot penalty to drop out of the bunker
Great video... It caused me to look up "boundary of a bunker". It said the boundary is at the edge of the sand and extended up and down. The ball in this video seems to look above the edge of the sand... and in the bunker.
Yes so the difference is if it is embedded in sand or if it is in soil or turf. This was in the soil above the sand which is then classed as the general area.
19.2c allows lateral relief of 2 club lengths from reference point (no closer to hole etc) The demonstration only indicted one club lengh in either direction no closer to hole?
@@petermcgill1315 yes you can go back as far as you like but when you go back in line the back is allowed to roll 1 club length each side of that line and still be in play
@petermcgill1315 The Back on the Line INSIDE the Bunker must be at least 3 Club Lengths (Driver, or the Longest Club in your Bag, except for Putters) because Back on the Line Drop on the Line with its full Circle RA must be behind / farther away than the 2 Club Lengths Lateral Relief Area.
Well that was very interesting; lots to consider and think about. It would probably be worthwhile carrying a copy of the rules in your bag or taking a rules official out with you? LOL Great work Hannah!
Hi Hannah, great vid, are you able to practice your swing in another bunker local to the hole you are playing touching the sand prior to then going to the bunker you are in and playing your shot?
Interesting video Hannah. I think that leaning on your club or placing your whole bag in the bunker is likely to cause controversy so if you could quote the rule that would be useful, so we too could quote said rule. Thanks
Great Bunker view! You explained the rules extremely well, which I greatly appreciated. Question what's the rule if the bunker is watery or very wet heavy sand? Thanks in advance Hannah!
This depends on what local rule your club brings in! The committee can bring in local rule F-16 which allows you to drop out of the bunker. If that isn’t in play you have to drop in the bunker or take a one shot penalty to drop out of the bunker. If the sand is just wet and not under water you just have to play it as it lies
@@hannahholdengolf Hi Hannah, thank you for explaining that to me, it was easy to understand. I have to find out what the local club rules is in this situation. I've only been playing golf for 3 years. I appreciate your quick response. Keep up the great videos, the reason I love your videos is you explain the whys?
Hi Hannah , Just subscribed. Here in East Tennessee USA many of the courses here are letting the bunkers go to grass due to the heavy cost of maintaining a sand bunker. I imagine you play the overgrown bunker like the rough . Am I wrong ? Thanks , looking forward to more tips.
Thank you for a very informative video Hannah. Just to clarify please,when taking a penalty drop from an unplayable lie in a bunker,is it a 1 club length arc as you said,or 2 club lengths like other places on the Course? Thank you.
As a handicap player, it helps a lot to know all the options for relief because bad shots are simply a big part of my game. When playing a while ago, one of my friends hit into a bunker and we noticed that there was no rake. He said that if there's no rake, the area is treated differently in the rules. I'd never heard of that! Can you clarify?
@fretless05 Your friend was trying to persuade you into believing he was in a Waste Area, or a Native Area. These are, in essence "Sandy Rough" and officially part of the General Area played with GA Rules, rather than Bunker Rules. These will get tidied up by the Grounds Crew every so often. Any Pro Shop will confirm or deny the presence of Waste Areas on its Course. And to close, a true Bunker doesn't "need a rake" to remain a Bunker.
This depends on what local rule your club brings in! The committee can bring in local rule F-16 which allows you to drop out of the bunker. If that isn’t in play you have to drop in the bunker or take a one shot penalty to drop out of the bunker
Embedded ball in a general area offers free relief therefore only one club length. Your allowed two club lengths when the relief isn’t free . Unplayable ball for instance in a bush .
what's your thoughts about the rake in the bunker incident? i feel if the rake was not in the bunker the ball would not be where it is, therefore place the ball where it was and if it roils down to the Centre , then so be it.
Good question! Everyone has different opinions. I think if it is outside the bunker it can stop the ball going in which is unfair. It should ideally be in the flat part in the middle of the bunker so you have a chance for the ball to roll down to the flat .
Another great video! Thanks. One question. Is it correct that you can test the sand with your club in another bunker, just not the bunker your ball is in? For example, a nearby bunker? Thanks, Hannah.
No it’s classed as playing the ball from the wrong place if you do, you have to move it back to where it was. That’s why it’s important to put the rakes in a flat bit of the bunker so people don’t get annoying lies!
Hi Hannah. Just a query on the ball embedded in the turf just above the bunker where you took a free drop to the side of where the ball was embedded - could you actually take your drop in the bunker on the line between where it was embedded and the hole as that may be a preferred option for a confident bunker player and also have an improved stance?
@eddiemaylor2716 IF you are taking Embedded Ball Relief for General Area, you have to Drop the Ball. You only get to PLACE the Ball, After the Ball has NOT stayed INSIDE your Relief Area after 2 Drops.
I liked this video, but you may have made an error. At 8:38, you place the ball clearly nearer to the hole from where the two pegs indicate. I'm assuming that the original peg and the second one are perpendicular to the hole, and your placement seems to be in front of the second peg…
Also, if you take an unplayable, it's two club lengths, or one in line. I hate that this is different, and I think the rule should be consistent club lengths, but it is what it is.
You talk about taking relief in the bunker under the unplayable ball rule and explain you are allowed 1 club length when taking lateral relief. I’m sure when taking lateral unplayable you are allowed 2 club lengths. Liking the content, just need to tighten up on the correct club length options so players new to the game are given the correct information. Chinny
@ Hi Hannah, thanks for your reply. Not sure I fully understand what you mean by “1 if you are going back on line” Lateral relief for unplayable ball is 2 club lengths in any direction, no nearer the hole of course. If you are taking Back on Line relief you can go back as far as you like inside the bunker for 1SP or outside the bunker for 2SP but you must drop on the line you don’t get 1CL either side of that line anymore. Chinny
@@hannahholdengolf Hi, sorry if I confused you, you must drop on the line but your ball can roll up to 1 CL in any direction. You are not allowed to drop “within” one club length of the line. See clarification 14.3b(4)/1
If the rake is moved and the ball moves I would think it should be played where the ball rolls to. It would’ve ended up there if the rake wasn’t in the bunker 🤔
As an older golfer, I'm 74 and recently added another 8kg,I've noticed that you seem to have lost weight (or is it the black clothes?). Has it changed your game one way or the other? It's not strictly a golf technique question but I'm thinking about trying diet to "improve" .
It defintely makes me feel lighter to get around the golf course which leaves more energy for thinking and making good decisions!! I have been doing more gym strength work which is the side that helps more with your swing
You should be able to play the ball where it comes to rest after moving the rake since that’s closer to where your ball would have ended up if that rake wasn’t there….those are my rules 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Stupid /ignorant question …..loving these rules lessons while showing specific situations. Now the stupid question : is it safe to assume these are general worldwide rules applied no matter where one is playing? Meaning same in your part of the world as it is in mine (united states). As bad as golfer as i am ive always used a combination of rules i know to be so and a little common sense if im not sure. Which means i usually end being the only one in my group hitting from bad lies and never “fluffs” the ball . but i see it as why play the game if youre not following some set of rules ..i also somewhat see their point , to a certain extent . We are no where near pro level so why make the struggle harder than it already is ….to me if youre not following any games set of rules then why play it ?because your efforts will mean nothing in the end But im weird that way 😜
Beware of local rules which should be prominently displayed or communicated. If there are no local rules applying to your situation then the official global rules of golf apply.
Q/ If I’m unplayable in a bunker, can I not take stroke and distance penalty? So go back to where I played my last shot under a one stroke penalty. What’s to stop me doing that?
@ thanks for your rapid reply Hannah. I’ve searched the rule book for ages but cannot find this particular ruling. I fully understand all other bunker rules - including two shot penalty for dropping outside the bunker - but needed clarification on this particular situation.
@@LionelMessi-ct7tuSo I’m looking at the Official Guide to the Rules of Golf that I got from the USGA and R&A, which has all the clarifications, diagrams and everything you can think of. I found Diagram 19.3 on page 263 which shows 4 relief options for an unplayable ball in a bunker. They are for 1 penalty stroke for stroke and distance, 1 penalty stroke for back of the line relief within the bunker, 1 penalty stroke for lateral relief within the bunker, and 2 penalty strokes for back of the line relief outside the bunker.
@ Thanks for that Mike, I fully understand that particular rule. My question is, if I’m in an unplayable lie in a bunker can I not take relief under another rule, i.e. the stroke and distance rule whereby I would only be penalised one shot. Hannah has advised that I must play by the bunker rule. I’m willing to accept that but the point I think I’m trying to make is that the rule book doesn’t specifically say “I can’t use the stroke and distance rule”. Thankfully I’ve managed to get to a 2.4 index without having to break this rule! Happy golfing.
Rules videos are really helpful…
Fantazy explained in detail accurately and clearly.
Thanks Hanna. I will never again 3:41 have that gut wrenching feeling of watching my ball roll back 4 times😅 like many others, who commented, my club bunkers are normally full of water so we usually allow a free drop.
Hannah congratulations on starting your channel. I very much appreciate being able tune into and watch your content. If I may say, with complete courtesy and respect, I really appreciate your no nonsense approach. I love that you are modest, professional, intelligent and matter of fact in your presentation style. Cheers once again and good luck.
Subscribed i really love the softness of your explanation of the rules 👍🏌♂️
@@robertdefazio2885 thanks 🙌🏻
That is the best discussion about how to deal with bunker issues I have ever seen. Hannah that was brilliant, thank you.
wow, thank you so much!!
@@hannahholdengolf you’re welcome.
Great video Hannah, nearly all of this was new to me.Thanks for making these golf rules videos,beats reading them!
Glad you like them!
Thanks Hannah - a playing partner was plugged in the bunker lip a week ago and we made him take a penalty drop into the bunker. I now know we were incorrect but won’t be telling him to avoid his subsequent bleating 😂
@@chrisburton7776 😅😅😅😅
Thanks for the video, keep up the good work.
Thanks, will do!
Congrats on the new channel:) really enjoying your unique content!
@@mitchy7051 thank you so much!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Love the videos on the Rules! I would love to see one on playing the ball from the wrong place … when there’s a penalty, and whether it’s one stroke or two
@@susancox481 got it!!
Great stuff, and so clearly presented!
One other option that's worth keeping in mind - the "cheat code" for a one-stroke drop out of the bunker... stroke-and-distance! It can be especially useful after a short approach, or even a chip, that's been mis-hit into a diabolical greenside bunker. In this case, for just ONE stroke, you can come back out and try again from the spot you just played from. It can be a good lifeline in that type of situation.
Did this on Bethpage Black #18 on a day when bunkers were a major weak point (hadn't watched your bunker videos yet. Now I love bunker shots.). Great drive on the last hole, the kind that keeps you coming back for more. Pulled a wedge hard into a deep left bunker. Let out a big "NOPE" and dropped another one down to use that one-stroke, stroke-and-distance option.
@@jpcurls true as long as you don’t hit it back in 😂😂😂😂
@@hannahholdengolf Well.... yes, there is that... 🤣 but hey, at that point, I'd figure that it's a sign that I'm supposed to be in there for whatever reason!
Thank you for all of this on the new channel. UK trip at the end of March for non-golf activities, but I'll have to keep this in mind if I DO get to play and find myself at any of those courses with those deep pot bunkers....
Excellent Video. You provided great clarity as to how to proceed when you need a ruling in a bunker. In particular, the loose impediment information was excellent. There will always be a playing partner that will argue you can’t move that rock or leaf but you sure can! Keep up the great work and look forward to more of your content. Cheers!
Thank you!!
Unplayable relief under 19.3a would be two club length Lateral Relief not just the one club length that you illustrate. Also, whilst you mention the two PS option for dropping outside the bunker it might have been useful to also mention that for 1PS you could drop outside the bunker under S&D from where you played the last stroke, especially if this spot was only a short distance back from the bunker.
@@adrianturner2655 yes it is 2 not 1. Yes you can do stroke and distance I guess i didn’t mention it as I would be concerned I would hit it back in the bunker again 😅
For Unplayable Ball IN a Bunker, there are 4 Penalty Relief Options.
1) Lateral Relief (2 Club Lengths Relief Area)
2) Back On the Line Relief remaining INSIDE the Bunker (Drop on Line, with a 1 Club Length Circular RA.)
And as with ALL BotL Relief, the Circular RA must be outside what would be the Lateral RA.
3) Stroke and Distance Relief from where the Ball had been before hit into the Bunker.
1, 2, and 3 are each 1 Penalty Stroke.
The 4th Option is the Back On the Line OUTSIDE the Bunker, which is 1 Penalty Stroke for Unplayable Ball and a Second Penalty Stroke for Dropping OUTSIDE the Bunker.
As for Measuring "Club Length(s)" the "Longest Club in the Bag, that is NOT a Putter" - MUST Be used.
Since a Dropped Ball MUST Remain INSIDE the Relief Area, one cannot Shrink the RA by using a Shorter Club, because 2 Failed Drops then allows the Ball to be Placed.
@@apaulmcdonough2170 Couple of things not quite right there. There is no requirement under the Rules to physically measure a Lateral Relief Area; the "longest club" (excdg putter) is purely a unit of measurement, e.g. say 46 inches, there is nothing in the Rules preventing you using a Wedge (measuring say 38 inches) as long as your drop stays within 92 inches of the Reference Point. Also, there is nothing in the Rules that requires your Reference Point (within the bunker) for a BOTL drop to be outside the 2 club lengths area that would otherwise be available under Lateral Relief.
@adrianturner2655 Check the Definitions of "Club Length" and "Relief Area".
One only gets "92 inches" if one has a 46 Inch Club in the Bag.
A Ball must stay INSIDE the Relief Area after being Dropped and coming to Rest.
2 Failed Drops allows a Player to Place his Ball.
Lateral Relief and Back On the Line Relief aren't interchangeable for a short distance Backwards.
@@apaulmcdonough2170 I appreciate you are struggling to understand the nuances of these Rules so I'll try to help; firstly, remember there is no requirement under the Rules to physically measure any Relief Area, you can just go ahead and drop the ball. You made two emphatic statements "the longest club (excdg putter) MUST be used " and "you cannot shrink the relief area by using a shorter club" - those are both incorrect statements. If I wish to mark an area with my my jumbo length putter (56 inches long) or alternatively my Wedge (38 inches) and drop initially within either of those then I can do so - the Rules only require that I drop a ball within (in this case) a unit of measurement that equates to my two club lengths from the Reference Point, so, as I explained to you, if my driver is 46 inches long that gives me 92 inch semi circle not to drop outside of (or the dropped ball run out of) - please see the Definition of Club Length, which I previously quoted, "A club-length is a unit of measurement": With regard to BOTL, please quote me the Rule number which says that a player is excluded from taking BOTL relief within 2 lateral club lengths back from the location of the ball. Thanks.
A guy at our club is a R&A ref. Playing with him is great, I’ve learnt so many rules that we should know. I think he gets fed up with all the questions I keep asking him
@@juanhunglow2220 love it!!
More great work Hannah, well explained for a subject we should all know more than we do. Thank you.
I must say that your bunker game is pretty brilliant! ❤👍🏽
ah thank you! I do enjoy bunkers
I will dropping out of bunkers from now on! 😂 love learning new tips, thanks Hannah!
love it!
I subscribed Hannah thanks for the bunker rules.I didn't know that about you could lean on your Club in the bunker I'm going to have to try that👍😃
thank you for subscribing!!!
i enjoy everything & enjoy the accent! (usa)
thanks Hannah, wish I got out of the bunker like you yesterday!!!!
Love it 😅 have you not watched my bunker tips video!
@@hannahholdengolf
Cool video, weather looks nice 😎
It was much nicer than some of the freezing days we have had recently!
The other case for bunkers is when the bunkers become temporary water. With all of our rain this year, our bunkers were basically ponds, so many times we were dropping out of the bunker in the nearest point of complete relief.
This depends on what local rule your club brings in! The committee can bring in local rule F-16 which allows you to drop out of the bunker. If that isn’t in play you have to drop in the bunker or take a one shot penalty to drop out of the bunker
Great video Hannah!
Great video... It caused me to look up "boundary of a bunker". It said the boundary is at the edge of the sand and extended up and down. The ball in this video seems to look above the edge of the sand... and in the bunker.
Yes so the difference is if it is embedded in sand or if it is in soil or turf. This was in the soil above the sand which is then classed as the general area.
Thanks for the video - great to see all the options. Is there one you didn't mention - take the shot again for one penalty shot (stroke and distance)?
@@angelagarland7673 yes you could do that! Just don’t hit it back in again 😂
19.2c allows lateral relief of 2 club lengths from reference point (no closer to hole etc) The demonstration only indicted one club lengh in either direction no closer to hole?
@@GrantMartin-g2f yes apologies, it’s 2 for straight unplayable, 1 for back on line
@@hannahholdengolfyou can’t go back as far as you like? Staying in the bunker, of course for the one shot penalty.
@@petermcgill1315 yes you can go back as far as you like but when you go back in line the back is allowed to roll 1 club length each side of that line and still be in play
@petermcgill1315 The Back on the Line INSIDE the Bunker must be at least 3 Club Lengths (Driver, or the Longest Club in your Bag, except for Putters) because Back on the Line Drop on the Line with its full Circle RA must be behind / farther away than the 2 Club Lengths Lateral Relief Area.
Well that was very interesting; lots to consider and think about.
It would probably be worthwhile carrying a copy of the rules in your bag or taking a rules official out with you? LOL
Great work Hannah!
yes we always used to carry rule books in our bags for comps before the apps came in!
Hi Hannah, great vid, are you able to practice your swing in another bunker local to the hole you are playing touching the sand prior to then going to the bunker you are in and playing your shot?
Yes as long as you don’t slow down play or then proceed to hit your ball in that said bunker
Interesting video Hannah. I think that leaning on your club or placing your whole bag in the bunker is likely to cause controversy so if you could quote the rule that would be useful, so we too could quote said rule. Thanks
It’s 12.2b part 2!
@ thanks!
Great Bunker view! You explained the rules extremely well, which I greatly appreciated. Question what's the rule if the bunker is watery or very wet heavy sand? Thanks in advance Hannah!
This depends on what local rule your club brings in! The committee can bring in local rule F-16 which allows you to drop out of the bunker. If that isn’t in play you have to drop in the bunker or take a one shot penalty to drop out of the bunker. If the sand is just wet and not under water you just have to play it as it lies
@@hannahholdengolf Hi Hannah, thank you for explaining that to me, it was easy to understand. I have to find out what the local club rules is in this situation. I've only been playing golf for 3 years. I appreciate your quick response. Keep up the great videos, the reason I love your videos is you explain the whys?
Hi Hannah , Just subscribed. Here in East Tennessee USA many of the courses here are letting the bunkers go to grass due to the heavy cost of maintaining a sand bunker. I imagine you play the overgrown bunker like the rough . Am I wrong ? Thanks , looking forward to more tips.
@@garyvanvoorhis7026 thanks for subbing!! And yes you would just play them like heavy rough. Interesting they are no infilling at all!
Thank you for a very informative video Hannah.
Just to clarify please,when taking a penalty drop from an unplayable lie in a bunker,is it a 1 club length arc as you said,or 2 club lengths like other places on the Course?
Thank you.
2 clubs lengths apologies I got confused remembering all the rules. It is 1 club length when back in line and 2 when taking it laterally
If your plug like the last one can you go on line further back as far back as you want
No you can only take the relief shown in the video. You could go back on line but under a 1 shot penalty as an unplayable drop
@ thank you. It definitely would make it easier
As a handicap player, it helps a lot to know all the options for relief because bad shots are simply a big part of my game. When playing a while ago, one of my friends hit into a bunker and we noticed that there was no rake. He said that if there's no rake, the area is treated differently in the rules. I'd never heard of that! Can you clarify?
i have also never heard of that and don't think it is true
@fretless05 Your friend was trying to persuade you into believing he was in a Waste Area, or a Native Area.
These are, in essence "Sandy Rough" and officially part of the General Area played with GA Rules, rather than Bunker Rules.
These will get tidied up by the Grounds Crew every so often.
Any Pro Shop will confirm or deny the presence of Waste Areas on its Course.
And to close, a true Bunker doesn't "need a rake" to remain a Bunker.
Hi Hannah, what about if your ball is in a bunker full of water? This is a regular occurrence in winter conditions. Good video, thanks
This depends on what local rule your club brings in! The committee can bring in local rule F-16 which allows you to drop out of the bunker. If that isn’t in play you have to drop in the bunker or take a one shot penalty to drop out of the bunker
Embedded ball in a general area offers free relief therefore only one club length. Your allowed two club lengths when the relief isn’t free . Unplayable ball for instance in a bush .
@@mikegraham8236 yes correct
Could you explain the “stroke and distance” meaning and rule please?
Sure! It basically means you can go back to where you previously hit your shot from and retake the shot under a one shot penalty.
Rule 18.1 Relief under penalty of stroke and distance allowed any time. See Hannah's reply for just how to use this option.
@@ianburton9223 also S & D under Rule 19.3 for "Unplayable Ball IN a Bunker"
Great simple video as always.
Can you cover unplayable lies please?
If you go to my recent 'Break 90' video there is a section on unplayable lies!
what's your thoughts about the rake in the bunker incident? i feel if the rake was not in the bunker the ball would not be where it is, therefore place the ball where it was and if it roils down to the Centre , then so be it.
Good question! Everyone has different opinions. I think if it is outside the bunker it can stop the ball going in which is unfair. It should ideally be in the flat part in the middle of the bunker so you have a chance for the ball to roll down to the flat .
Another great video! Thanks. One question. Is it correct that you can test the sand with your club in another bunker, just not the bunker your ball is in? For example, a nearby bunker? Thanks, Hannah.
Yes as long as you don’t slow down play or then proceed to hit your ball into that other bunker!!
You can go into adjacent bunker and practice your swing hitting the sand.
Couldn’t you play the ball in the location that it rolled to after lifting the rake?
No it’s classed as playing the ball from the wrong place if you do, you have to move it back to where it was. That’s why it’s important to put the rakes in a flat bit of the bunker so people don’t get annoying lies!
@ good to know, I would have definitely played it there. Better lie and all.
Hi Hannah. Just a query on the ball embedded in the turf just above the bunker where you took a free drop to the side of where the ball was embedded - could you actually take your drop in the bunker on the line between where it was embedded and the hole as that may be a preferred option for a confident bunker player and also have an improved stance?
Embedded ball relief area must be in the general area. 16.3b
@josephtyrrell8894 Presumably general area includes the bunker then?
@@alistairmcgregor8820 It does not include the bunker. See the definition of General Area which excludes bunkers.
@josephtyrrell8894 Many thanks.
@alistairmcgregor8820 Bunkers are their own distinct Area of the Course.
5 separate Areas: Tees, General, Penalty, Bunkers, and Greens.
What golf course are you at in this video Hannah?
@@gavinaris9004 Manchester golf club!
Hannah, can you take a practice swing in a bunker, that isn't the one you're in?
yes as long as you dont hold up play or end up hitting your ball in that bunker afterwards!
@hannahholdengolf thank you, loving the new vlogs, we seem to be getting more content.
@ thanks! Yes I’m trying to do more 🤩
@@hannahholdengolf love your yorkshire accent...looking forward to your next vlog.
There are a few too many people who think I have to drop on the side of this slope, but I'll just place it instead. Glad you made it clear.
@eddiemaylor2716 IF you are taking Embedded Ball Relief for General Area, you have to Drop the Ball.
You only get to PLACE the Ball, After the Ball has NOT stayed INSIDE your Relief Area after 2 Drops.
What about when the bunker is full of standing water?
Free relief
What about the rule you can take practice shots( not with a ball) in another bunker..just not in the bunker your ballis in ?
Yes you can do that as long as you don’t slow down play or you don’t then hit your ball in that bunker 😅😅
you can do a practice swing if it's in a bunker without a ball in.
@@Nockwolves yes just don’t slow down play or hit your ball in there afterwards 😅
I liked this video, but you may have made an error. At 8:38, you place the ball clearly nearer to the hole from where the two pegs indicate. I'm assuming that the original peg and the second one are perpendicular to the hole, and your placement seems to be in front of the second peg…
Also, if you take an unplayable, it's two club lengths, or one in line. I hate that this is different, and I think the rule should be consistent club lengths, but it is what it is.
The tee pegs were back on an angle so all good there but yes it should have been 2 club lengths
Im sure you can actually practise in another bunker as long as its not the one you are in is this right ?
yes as long as you dont hold up play or end up hitting your ball in that bunker afterwards!
You talk about taking relief in the bunker under the unplayable ball rule and explain you are allowed 1 club length when taking lateral relief. I’m sure when taking lateral unplayable you are allowed 2 club lengths. Liking the content, just need to tighten up on the correct club length options so players new to the game are given the correct information.
Chinny
yes apologies, it is 2 if taking it immediately around the ball, 1 if you are going back on line
@ Hi Hannah, thanks for your reply. Not sure I fully understand what you mean by “1 if you are going back on line” Lateral relief for unplayable ball is 2 club lengths in any direction, no nearer the hole of course. If you are taking Back on Line relief you can go back as far as you like inside the bunker for 1SP or outside the bunker for 2SP but you must drop on the line you don’t get 1CL either side of that line anymore.
Chinny
@ for back on line relief you do still get one club length each side, it’s under rule 19.3 there is a specific diagram in the R&A rules showing this
@@hannahholdengolf Hi, sorry if I confused you, you must drop on the line but your ball can roll up to 1 CL in any direction. You are not allowed to drop “within” one club length of the line. See clarification 14.3b(4)/1
If the rake is moved and the ball moves I would think it should be played where the ball rolls to. It would’ve ended up there if the rake wasn’t in the bunker 🤔
@@mikejones-go8vz maybe but that’s not what the rule is 🤷🏼♀️
@ I know, some rules are not fair 🙁 watching from NZ, great video. The bunker relief rules are quite good really
As an older golfer, I'm 74 and recently added another 8kg,I've noticed that you seem to have lost weight (or is it the black clothes?). Has it changed your game one way or the other? It's not strictly a golf technique question but I'm thinking about trying diet to "improve" .
Losing a stone in weight will help you walk round the course and help prevent many illnesses. You don’t need to justify it with golf technique
It defintely makes me feel lighter to get around the golf course which leaves more energy for thinking and making good decisions!! I have been doing more gym strength work which is the side that helps more with your swing
You should be able to play the ball where it comes to rest after moving the rake since that’s closer to where your ball would have ended up if that rake wasn’t there….those are my rules 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I know 😅😅😅😅
You did not mention that you can take practice swings and hit the sand in an adjacent bunker. But not in the bunker you are playing out of.
.... and I was told, I have to drop in the bunker with one penalty stroke, with a stuck ball in the turf
uh oh, bad advice
It would very smart for me to take a two stroke penalty and drop backwards out of the bunker …🤪🤪🤪🤪
Very!
Stupid /ignorant question …..loving these rules lessons while showing specific situations. Now the stupid question : is it safe to assume these are general worldwide rules applied no matter where one is playing? Meaning same in your part of the world as it is in mine (united states). As bad as golfer as i am ive always used a combination of rules i know to be so and a little common sense if im not sure. Which means i usually end being the only one in my group hitting from bad lies and never “fluffs” the ball . but i see it as why play the game if youre not following some set of rules ..i also somewhat see their point , to a certain extent . We are no where near pro level so why make the struggle harder than it already is ….to me if youre not following any games set of rules then why play it ?because your efforts will mean nothing in the end But im weird that way 😜
@@vicpnut1 yes! The USGA and R&A set the rules together for everyone!
Beware of local rules which should be prominently displayed or communicated. If there are no local rules applying to your situation then the official global rules of golf apply.
They removed all the bunkers from my course 😔 too many loose impediments……….kangaroo poop.
Wow 😅😅😅
No
So many rules, I'm gkad i play with my mates, we don't cheat but come on more less rules in prison 😂
@@paulbrown7425 😂😂😂😂 love that
I like your outfit again.
Thanks 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 running out of cold weather outfits though 😂
@@hannahholdengolf Keep wearing black.
Q/ If I’m unplayable in a bunker, can I not take stroke and distance penalty? So go back to where I played my last shot under a one stroke penalty. What’s to stop me doing that?
@@LionelMessi-ct7tu you can only take stroke and distance out of the bunker under a 2 shot penalty
@ thanks for your rapid reply Hannah. I’ve searched the rule book for ages but cannot find this particular ruling.
I fully understand all other bunker rules - including two shot penalty for dropping outside the bunker - but needed clarification on this particular situation.
@@LionelMessi-ct7tuSo I’m looking at the Official Guide to the Rules of Golf that I got from the USGA and R&A, which has all the clarifications, diagrams and everything you can think of. I found Diagram 19.3 on page 263 which shows 4 relief options for an unplayable ball in a bunker. They are for 1 penalty stroke for stroke and distance, 1 penalty stroke for back of the line relief within the bunker, 1 penalty stroke for lateral relief within the bunker, and 2 penalty strokes for back of the line relief outside the bunker.
@ Thanks for that Mike, I fully understand that particular rule. My question is, if I’m in an unplayable lie in a bunker can I not take relief under another rule, i.e. the stroke and distance rule whereby I would only be penalised one shot. Hannah has advised that I must play by the bunker rule. I’m willing to accept that but the point I think I’m trying to make is that the rule book doesn’t specifically say “I can’t use the stroke and distance rule”. Thankfully I’ve managed to get to a 2.4 index without having to
break this rule! Happy golfing.
@hannahholdengolf Stroke and distance penalty out of the bunker is 1 stroke penalty..
Find my self in the sand so often friends call me Hasselhoff, but honestly rather hit out of a bunker then fly over a green 🏖️ . 🏌️♂️
😂😂😂 I do also quite like hitting out of bunkers