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How To Joint & Plane Large Boards on a CNC

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  • Here are some tricks and tips how to surface wood on a CNC machine. If your board is too large for your jointer and planer, then this is a great way to go. Become a patron: / darbinorvar
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  • @tessarnold7597
    @tessarnold7597 3 роки тому +7

    First, let me say I've been a fan of your videos for years now. Love your work, hope you keep doing it. That being said, while this is a cool process, it's super wasteful. Now, for woodworkers like me - hobbyists really - there's no way we could spend our resources this way. Also, we don't have CNC machines. Well, I don't, at any rate. For anyone wanting to take a twist that extreme out of a board that wide, while retaining as much of the wood as possible, here's the solution: 1) Rip the board down the middle. 2) Remove twist from resulting boards. (the twist will be much less extreme.) 3) Plane to matching thickness. 4) Match-plane boards to join back together. 5) Glue boards back together. (Bonus: if you know you don't need that long of a board, crosscut to rough length first. This will also take some of the twist out of the board, maybe most of it.) This process can be done with a planer and a table saw, just a table saw, or hand tools. Done with power tools, it will take about the same amount of time as stated in the video. With hand tools...
    Just a bit longer. I hope this is useful for anyone else out there who doesn't have the equipment or resources.
    Like I said at the beginning, I'm a fan of your work. I look forward to seeing what you post next. Hope you and the family are well.

    • @darbinorvar
      @darbinorvar  3 роки тому +1

      it would not be wise to rip a board down the middle when it is so warped, and this process works for sizes normal machines can't handle.

    • @tessarnold7597
      @tessarnold7597 3 роки тому

      @@darbinorvar Not on a table saw, no. One would need to use a circular saw or hand saw.

    • @rickmellor
      @rickmellor 3 роки тому +1

      A lot of us have CNC's so seeing ideas on how to use them in novel ways is appreciated.

    • @tessarnold7597
      @tessarnold7597 3 роки тому +1

      @@rickmellor Sure. Takes all kinds to make a world. You have a CNC? Go for it, all day, every day. I'm not going to say anything against you. A lot of us don't have CNCs, or need to preserve more of the material, because we're on a budget. Either way works. Also, to modify the process, one could crosscut the board to rough length, and/ or rip cut it in half - to reduce the twist, as previously mentioned- and then use the CNC for flattening. This would also reduce material wastage. And, if you need to keep as much of the thickness as possible, it could be a viable option. (again, one would use a circular saw or hand saw ti do the initial cuts.)

    • @rickmellor
      @rickmellor 3 роки тому

      @@tessarnold7597 yeah, one could optimize the process... I had some of those same thoughts while watching the video. However, it's always easiest to critique someone's work. Linn may have had other constraints or different priorities. I imagine if she was able to get what she needed out of the material using this setup that was probably good enough. If I waited for everyone to post content that met my personal measure of perfection I'd have very little content to view. I much prefer seeing people share ideas and techniques that I can incorporate into my thinking. When it comes time for me to solve a similar problem I'll do it my own way regardless, and I'll optimize the work based on the constrains I have at that time.

  • @MorseB
    @MorseB 3 роки тому +10

    Protip about hot glue. Use any type of alcohol, anything from rubbing alcohol to vodka will work. Just bush a bit on and the glue will just pop right off, even on porous materials like wood.

  • @rhysstatham7407
    @rhysstatham7407 3 роки тому +12

    Would ripping the timber in half then planning followed by thicknessing finally joint the two pieces together be quicker and waist less timber.

    • @jimurrata6785
      @jimurrata6785 3 роки тому +5

      It would, if you are willing to accept the grain matched joint In your finished piece.
      Linn could also minimize thickness loss by flattening only the piece she needs and cut loss in half by shimming two opposite corners instead of leaving only one corner high.

    • @robertpyrosthenes1092
      @robertpyrosthenes1092 3 роки тому +1

      I think she's making it up as she goes along...

  • @John-pp2jr
    @John-pp2jr 2 роки тому

    Brilliant, craftsmanship is not dead.

  • @Sarveshdd1
    @Sarveshdd1 Рік тому

    I am really amazed by the hot glue trick, I didn't expect it to hold. I am going to try that 👍🏻

  • @mikeselbach3696
    @mikeselbach3696 4 місяці тому

    Great video describing a technique fo planing a large board. I would be interested in a companion video that describes edge jointing.

  • @davidmackay2353
    @davidmackay2353 3 роки тому +1

    Hi Darbin. Good tip for using your cnc but you can use your planer also to get the same results even faster.
    Screw your stock from the underside of a piece of melamine using wedges and making sure the screws are countersunk and lie well beneath the surface to be planed. Once the surface is planed completely, unscrew your stock, flip it over and run through your planer again until you surface the length you require. You can then cut the board to length and then plane the remainder of your stock to a thinner thickness.

  • @Mikidy303
    @Mikidy303 3 роки тому

    Interesting video! Great way to utilize the maximum amount of material.

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations 3 роки тому

    Really awesome tips, Linn! 😃
    Thanks a lot!
    Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

  • @OverlandTrailer
    @OverlandTrailer 3 роки тому

    Great tips. That finish looks nice too.

  • @Su67377s
    @Su67377s 3 роки тому

    I am missing your--*Hi I am linn and this is darvin orvar channel*
    Love from India

  • @2brazy4ubitch
    @2brazy4ubitch 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the video!

  • @williamcovell6324
    @williamcovell6324 3 роки тому

    Just found your channel and I'm surprised about the glue trick. Thanks.

  • @douwesprojects
    @douwesprojects 3 роки тому

    Very insightful video.
    The surfacing bit works very efficient and with nice chips at the right feed and speed. I think your rpm might just be way too high. On my CNC I use the surface bit at 3000 rpm and maximum feed and get beautiful chips and no dust...

  • @CncDesigner
    @CncDesigner 2 роки тому

    Great way

  • @Pure_KodiakWILD_Power
    @Pure_KodiakWILD_Power 3 роки тому

    Always good to see you, dear.

  • @joeycastillo1496
    @joeycastillo1496 3 роки тому

    I always like your videos.

  • @scotttovey
    @scotttovey 3 роки тому

    Good tips.

  • @bkoholliston
    @bkoholliston 3 роки тому

    If you make a sled for your planer, you can wedge and hot glue boards just like you did for the CNC, so you can use a tool with a much higher material removal rate and be done faster. The sled can be a simple flat board or you can make a torsion box that will be really stiff and flat. As a lot of others have said, alcohol is the solvent for hot glue, which can make getting the board unstuck much easier.

    • @KlausJepps
      @KlausJepps 2 роки тому

      Though you are correct, you would need a 530mm wide planer in my case and I don't have one of those laying around.
      For the hot glue and alcohol - you can make holders which grip the sides of the wood so you don't need hot glue.

  • @JohnColgan.
    @JohnColgan. 3 місяці тому

    Might have been worth trying to flatten the twist before surfacing.. I've seen soak with hot cloths & clamp to solid surface, increase the clamping pressure, then let dri still in clamps.or split to strips / quadrants, surface individual and reglue

  • @KlausJepps
    @KlausJepps 2 роки тому +1

    I've used my CNC for planing some years now, and it really works well. I suggest making holders which attach to the side of the piece, then glue isn't necessary.
    Right now I'm working on a sleight for the CNC so I can plane 4,5m planks. The problems you get when you have a sawmill...
    Edit: I find it odd with so many suggestions of holding the wood in place, though the first thing I made after finishing my CNC was holders for the side of the wood. Am I the only one doing this?

  • @rodrigovidal5732
    @rodrigovidal5732 3 роки тому

    Olá bom dia.
    Adoro teus vídeos.
    Santa Maria RS . BRASIL

  • @repairtech9320
    @repairtech9320 3 роки тому +1

    Plastic nails with nail gun could be useful here. I learned about this on Stuffmadehere's channel. I don't know if it works on all wood though.

    • @darbinorvar
      @darbinorvar  3 роки тому +4

      They don't work with hardwood and they aren't long enough.

  • @vividcolourfilms1276
    @vividcolourfilms1276 Рік тому

    Great video thanks, one question, Panasonic auto focus?? :D

  • @kenf2662
    @kenf2662 2 роки тому +1

    Here is a Tip: If you cut the length of the board first it ends up less of a bow and then that's less you have to take off to flatten.

  • @iainwade
    @iainwade 3 роки тому +1

    Interesting observation about the chips when using surfacing bit. It makes sense considering the different geometry.

  • @majstor76
    @majstor76 3 роки тому +1

    Ah, that reminds me of days of jumping on bent planks so cnc vacuum can hold it. I must have looked like maniac

    • @MrTapanes
      @MrTapanes 3 роки тому +1

      Wouldn't that have just introduced stress to the 'flattened' board? I mean, wouldn't it spring back after surfacing?

    • @majstor76
      @majstor76 3 роки тому +1

      @@MrTapanes Yeah, but it was part of interlocking boards so it wasn't an issue

  • @TravisKlein1
    @TravisKlein1 Рік тому

    great video, but also if you only needed the 1/2 of it, you should have cut it first instead of trying to flatten it then cut it afterwards

  • @davidthompson9359
    @davidthompson9359 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the video it provides some good pointers on how to work with uneven surfaces. I spotted some software you're using "WARP 9", how does that fit in your CNC?

    • @bloho_design
      @bloho_design 3 роки тому

      It’s invisible largely, it is part of how Mach talks to the controller in the machine.

  • @SongvilayFilms
    @SongvilayFilms 2 роки тому

    Hi what is the spindle that you use for your cnc machine?

    • @darbinorvar
      @darbinorvar  2 роки тому

      its from avid cnc, link in the description

  • @5280Woodworking
    @5280Woodworking Рік тому

    Curious as I don’t own an avid cnc, but how did you find or define the zero for x, y, a each time before starting the run?

    • @darbinorvar
      @darbinorvar  Рік тому

      It's really easy, I usually set it relative to the piece I'm cutting.

  • @sashantpradhan
    @sashantpradhan 3 роки тому +1

    Woww💜💜

  • @michaelc5369
    @michaelc5369 3 роки тому

    WOW, woodworking!!🤔

  • @73satanico
    @73satanico 3 роки тому

    👍👍👍