Did you hear about the dirty Nintendo lawsuit just filed against the developers of Palworld? It’s surprisingly scummy and not about copyrite over Pokemon designs.
I didn't even think about the fact that the jumping was inherent to the controls. I absolutely love that, because the feather made traversing in Awakening so addicting to me. Having to not take up a slot to jump sounds really refreshing.
I'm so sick of UA-camrs putting their ads in the middle of other dialogue, out of nowhere. It would be so much better if they just clearly outlined where the ad is, using timestamps, and place it either at the beginning or end of the video.
Whenever you summon an echo, one of the triangle's of Tri's crest is "spent". Some echoes take up two triangles, if you look at the UI closely. On some portions of footage, you can see Tri with four triangles on their crest, so it's certain that this can be upgraded.
@@CouchSpud91 I actually think it’s because they wanted Link to be distinct from Mario that Nintendo never let jump be inherent to Zelda games until recently.
The way you describe the puzzles reminds me a lot of A Link Between Worlds, where puzzles have multiple solutions but are still very deliberate. That's one of my favs, so that gets me even more excited!
I was actually exhibiting at PAX West, so I made sure that Day 1, I went in extra early, before Media Hour and went straight to Nintendo to play this. I have to say, it honestly blew me away. When the game was first announced, I definitely had my hesitations, due to the re-use of the art style, and Zelda seemingly not having a "normal" way of attacking. I thought that the Echoes were cool, but was bummed thinking that I'd just have to watch enemies I summon fight for me or something; but then.... I played it and, it honestly put all of my worries to rest. Everything felt SO smooth. Hell, even attacking enemies with rocks was somehow fun. That opening escape sequence was great because I had the guy from Nintendo telling me I was apparently doing things that the employees hadn't even tried (which we can blame on the fact that professionally, I'm a QA Lead so I tend to do weird obscure stuff while playing on accident haha). I was initially worried that we'd just be getting ALTTP map for a third time, but again, everything felt fresh and unique. That outside area, and small village after the initial escape certainly FELT new to me, and not like we were just retreading old ground. I could probably gush about this game forever now. Nothing feels better than when you have your reservations about a game only for the game to absolutely crush them and show you how awesome it truly is.
It's kind of insane how this feels like a reverse scenario of totk, where everyone was very hyped before launch but then the reused map didn't feel as fresh as we hoped
I really like the echos mechanics it keeps me busy and doesn't get boring. Keeping busy is what keeps me focus nowadays, always having to do something has made me interested in this new zelda game.
It's the same nonsense mentality they have towards the Switch's main screen and storefront. It's like they hired the worst possible person to design their organizational systems.
I'm betting that it's going to be a "most used" option. Other than that I'm doubtful that they're going to revamp the long-ass list of echoes in any way. It's definitely going to drag down the mid-to-late-game
Totally agree, like both it and phantom hourglass have exactly what he's saying. I think it's more of a symptom that we haven't had a new 2d zelda in 10 years
@@jacobradabaugh6241 if you have the time, of course! An acquired taste, but I think they're some of the most interestingly designed Zelda games period. And they've also got two of the series' very best companion characters as well♡
@@jacobradabaugh6241They've got fundamental differences from "traditional" 2D Zelda, but they're very good games! I never played Phantom Hourglass, but I played Spirit Tracks at least twice and I adore the heck out of it.
I've already paid for my copy in full, have the receipt on my fridge, and announce to my roommates every morning how many days remain until Echoes of Wisdom before I head off to work. I love videogames but can't get as excited as I did in youth. However this title has my 32 year old soul soaring higher than it has in a long time for a videogame.
Lucky, I'm happy for you. Tears of the Kingdom has jaded me to the point where I don't trust Nintendo to make good Zelda games anymore. Like it seems like they fundamentally don't understand how to make them anymore. Even in this game it looks like the echoes all amount to just stairs and blockades. I really wish they would have given Zelda her own moveset with some spells and abilities but her echo ability isn't even hers, it belongs to Tri.
This is the first time I've looked forward to a Nintendo game since Twilight Princess (and Skyward Sword, but best to forget about that one) My first game ever was Link's Awakening DX, and now I have a 10 year old son who loved the Link's Awakening remake. So we are both gonna play it together and I'm looking forward to it. You'd be surprised how ingenious kids can be with solving multi solution puzzles.
@@zacziggarot ”they don’t understand how to make them anymore” do you realize how entitled you sound? you’re telling me that you KNOW for a fact that this experienced group of developers simply do not know what they are doing anymore. mind you, the same people who worked on the zelda games you loved are still working on the new ones. they are trying to reinvent zelda, i’ll admit not everything has worked but please stop with that nonsense of thinking you know better than the developers who have been creating these games for decades.
I got to play the demo and I have very similar thoughts!! A lot of what I noticed too was visuals especially since it's using the Link's Awakening style. I feel like in a lot of ways, this game feels so much more visually stunning than Link's Awakening but in very subtle ways. But notably I had to pause my demo speedrunning for a second in the garden area after the guards because wow that little space alone was just gorgeous. I don't remember even a single area in Link's Awakening looking so nice and this is the first 10 minutes!! I was also worried about the Echo Menu Management. My hope is that a lot of puzzles that require echoes will require some TYPE of echo instead of very particular ones. Like even in the demo, they'd give you a certain echo to use for progress but you could probably make another one work. And maybe later some puzzles just need any "Heavy" echo or "Tall" or "Breakable" echo and so on to solve the puzzle. So if there's truly no additional echo management tools, I hope the flexibility on the echoes that'll do the job for the curated challenges to be enough for us to quickly flick down the list a couple spaces and find something that'll work at least
That's not surprising since Link's Awakening on Switch was a 1 to 1 remake of a Gameboy game, so they had to make everything match and couldn't get too much more creative with sizes and spaces. This one is designed from scratch as a totally new adventure, just using the same basic engine and graphical style, but with a lot more creativity.
Yessss. I've seen some other UA-camrs post their first impressions. I'm glad you had the opportunity as well. Definitely looks like it's going to be one of the best 2D Zelda games.
🤦 I really dislike how we're calling a 3D game 2D, even "2D style" is wrong since the last 4 games of the style have all been 3D. Call it "overhead" or something
Personally, I think reviews, previews and first impressions like this one should be kept on the main channel. They are big and important enough for that, as more traditional "gaming journalism" stuff.
I think it could also work if they were organzied in a wheel format like the course parts in Super Mario Maker. Like, you could just pull up the wheel menu, sort by category, and flick a directional input to quickly select the echo you want.
Honestly, it's not a big deal to me. It looks cool to see selectors flashing across in a line mid-action rather than a boring Menu or 'grid' like every other game that just opens up because people think ''that's the way''. Let the nitpickers moan again, We will enjoy EoW.
Something that would be amazing: if this game has something like eventide island, where you lose all your echos and have to solve the area with just the echoes that you find in that area. It would really help push the puzzle nature to its limits
@sabrinafletcher7884 I was, I just want more. So many more. I would buy dlc that is just a series of these rooms. Sort of like a Cave of Ordeals from Twilight Princess.
I got caught like 4 times in the demo and was still able to make it to the end haha I think they gave plenty of time for us to figure stuff out and see everything.
Never thought I'd be excited for a stealth section in game, but just the fact that you don't have to crouch-walk around the place to do it makes me so happy. I never got the appeal of that. It's slow and tedious.
I'll admit, my biggest fear about this game is that combat is going to be too passive for my tastes. That a lot of it is going to be hanging back and letting your echoes handle it without much participation from the player. The other stuff you can do with echoes looks fun though, and I'm happy to see the return of actual dungeons. Also, the fact that this might be more story-heavy than most Zelda games is exciting too!
One of the first trailers shows you able to pick up something that shoots literal missiles at the opponents, I don't think it's all going to be passive. Also, it seems that a lot of the time where you place the enemy is super important
I think the reviews/impressions fit well on the main channel. It’s not updated as often as the new Topic Arlo channel. Taking away that section from the main channel means even less updates for the fans that enjoy it.
Why do you have that feeling? When has Zelda EVER done anything but a one-off gimmick? Other than collecting macguffins at the end of dungeons, the series has always changed. I can only think of two examples where the one-off gimmick became a two-off gimmick
There was a rumor about the Switch 2 having scroll wheels for shoulder buttons, and I gotta think this game would be perfect for it in terms of scrolling through the inventory of echoes.
Thanks for this. Yesterday, found myself thinking of Sphinx's puzzle progression finally reaching capturing monsters to use their elemental abilities. Good stuff.
This review made me hopeful that I will like the game. Deliberate puzzles with more set solutions is something I like, even if there are multiple solutions I don't like feeling like everything works.
The thing is though is that a handful of those solutions are probably always going to be the same, things like "just build a staircase around the problem and you can avoid the puzzle entirely" or "build a ladder". Feels like all of the echo abilities all just amount to either a bridge, a blockade, or stairs
@@zacziggarot Nope, lol. Plus you can only have a certain amount out at a time, so if you need to get up really high or across a larger gap you obviously have to use other things.
I'm glad this game is coming out after UFO 50 because I'm going to be very busy with that for a good week before it releases. You can't keep me away from that game
@@RyluRocky it’s funny. I actually have since played ALTTP and EoW and what happens in the former is his uncle goes to break Zelda out of jail but you find him dying at the entrance of the prison and gives you the sword. In EoW Zelda doesn’t start in prison but is put there a little bit after the game starts.
This is off topic but I genuinely can't understand why you dont have well over a million subs yet. You put way more effort into your content than a majority of youtubers and you're just so likable, Arlo!
I just wish that they also brought back Link, as well. I hope that they don't stray too far from some of what made the previous games so great. I really love being a humble warrior, journeying to save my beloved princess from evil. I feel like this is part of a recent trend, especially with Peach's game also in the limelight. Not that I mind playing as the princesses once in a while, or them having their own games, but a little concerning.
@@shefalichow7917 you’ve had 2 decades or so of games fitting that exact description, and they’re just as good if not better on subsequent playthroughs. They ain’t going anywhere. Let new entries try new things instead of rehashing the same narrative or mechanical formula - after all, this series has survived for so long *because* it knows when to evolve and mix things up.
@@rickygforce4217 More like four decades. "Let new entries try new things" Except pretty much every game in the past tried new things, while keeping the overarching story and characters in the form we love(d). That's a bad excuse to totally switch gears and take the story/characters in a vastly different direction (I'm not saying this is the case with this latest game, although it is the most changed yet). Twilight Princess, Windwaker etc. were amazing and different, all while still honoring the roles of the characters and the story. "This series has survived so long because..." It has survived not only because of ingenuity, but also because of the story and characters everyone already loves. Maybe you don't count yourself among them, and mainly care about gameplay, and that's fine, but then it's no longer "The Legend of Zelda."
lol not to be a pedant but the first 2D "Zelda" to give players the ability to jump as an intrinsic ability is in fact the second one ever made, "Zelda II: The Adventure of Link". I do think "Echoes of Wisdom" is the first *top-down* 2D "Zelda" where this is the case, though,.
I wish we'd stopped calling these games 2D since they've been 3D for the last four iterations, I'm counting the DS games, Link between worlds, and the Link's Awakening remake. We should really start gravitating to "overhead" or "top down" like you said
Imagine all they do to change the switch from the switch 2 is add a little dial that allows you to toggle inventory or select screens with ease. Just like a little rubber gear near the plus sign that gives people that extra speed when choosing an item in a game.
You can see a category sorter for your Echoes on screen when you're asking if there'll be a more convenient way to find them lol. Looks like BOTW's/TOTK's but with gladly more options
been playing it for a few days because I got sick and it got leaked, and I can confirm it's really good. Idk if it's as good as a link between worlds (my personal favorite 2d zelda) but it's promising. I'm currently a bit over half way through the story as of writing this.
I actually do like the look of this. It reminds me of my favorite game in RPG Maker, which might just be the structural change that Zelda needed for me.
Thanks for the preview review! Huh, you’re posting to other channels. That explains why I haven’t seen much of you. Unlike most people, I subscribe to those I want to listen to and then mostly use my subscriptions list for content, and that means I have a heavily curated list… but I won’t be adding a ton of other sub channels to it because I manually curate it, and I’m already at 50ish and that’s almost too big to manually curate quickly.
The number of echos is upgradable. There are some clips in the trailers that show Tri has more triangles. In fact, you used one of them in this video 8:15
@@Incompetent_Hero I never said it wasn’t trailer footage? I was just pointing out that some of the trailer footage used in his own video, answers one of his questions from playing the demo.
@@zacziggarot When Zelda fans say 2D, they don't mean art style. If they were, it'd be called 2.5D anyways, not 3D. Minish Cap would not be a 3D game if it were remade with models instead of sprites. The gameplay is what is being referred to, not the graphics. Do you think that recent Prince of Persia game is 3D? Or what about Kirby pre forgotten land? Would you call Return to Dreamland a 3D game? If so, then you are just not gonna find anyone who agrees with you.
I don't think YOU even know what fans mean when they say 2D. There's no .5 about the last four anyways, they're FULLY 3D. Being 3D isn't an art style, it's how many dimensions it has. Ocarina of Time could be considered a 2d Zelda then if Link's Awakening remake is a 2d Zelda now. How is it any different? The style of game is still EXACTLY the same, ONLY THING that changes is the camera angle, all that third dimension really equates to is having to look up occasionally to hit a switch or flying enemy anyways. Wow, the game added ladders, looks like we're in three dimensions now. Remember back in the good old days when you got amazed by the 3D graphics of the PNG of death mountain in the distance? I think it's funny that you want to compare Kirby games that are ACTUALLY two dimensional what with the lack of depth movement. It's funny that you had to specify PRE forgotten land because forgotten land's maps are basically Link's Awakening with the top down view 🤣 Sorry, Kirby I guess you're still a 2d game 🤷 In wind waker you can't fly, you're always stuck on the ground and sailing on the sea on a 2d plane. Uh-oh looks like it's two-dimensional now 😐 That's what you sound like 🙃
Of course, the game isn't out yet, so we don't know for sure how it will be in the later part, but from what I have seen so far I hope this game will be a model for whatever the next 3D Zelda game is. Having more fleshed-out and deliberate sections of self-contained gameplay like the dungeons in this game would address a lot of concerns people have with the open-world 3D Zelda. The repetitive bite-sized shrines and checkpoint-based dungeons don't really satisfy people's hunger for the more puzzle-oriented side of Zelda as well as it could be.
@4:57 *_Zelda II: The Adventure of Link_*_ is the first 2D Zelda where you can jump at _any_ time, _without_ an Item. Unless one wants to nitpick and point out that you cannot jump on the Overworld Map... but you cannot attack on the Overworld Map, either. In fact, all you can do on the Overworld Map in this game is move Up, Down, Left, and Right plus use certain Overworld Items. If you encounter an Enemy Icon, a Fairy Icon, touch a Town, etc. the game shifts from 2D Overworld to 2D sideview Stage, which is where all combat and much exploration happens. Now, this might be the first 2D overhead or three-quarters perspective Zelda game where a character can jump as a basic command.
I think the game would've massively benefited from having dedicated Sword and Echo modes. As in, you put away the Tri Rod and Zelda can use the sword, bow, and other items just like Link can. Battling enemies with echo summons, just mulling around waiting for enough crystals to transform into "Link Mode" is just so dull.
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Is this game showing you on map next place to push game and her plot?
@@circumventboredom9463 I know you meant this sincerely but the fact that tone is removed over comments makes it sound so sinister.... like a threat
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Did you hear about the dirty Nintendo lawsuit just filed against the developers of Palworld? It’s surprisingly scummy and not about copyrite over Pokemon designs.
I didn't even think about the fact that the jumping was inherent to the controls. I absolutely love that, because the feather made traversing in Awakening so addicting to me. Having to not take up a slot to jump sounds really refreshing.
Zelda 2 remake when??
@@mandatorial We’re past due for those first 2 games being updated for modern audiences
@@mandatorial when Nintendo figures out how to make them fun and not janky
@@zacziggarot not a hard thing to accomplish
Makes me want a remake of the first 3 games
Arlo's going to release a video on how much he adores Echoes of Wisdom before his TOTK video is finished.
Despite the fact that this is just BOTW again
@@xuto2693 So true, any game with an open world is just BotW
@@halosaft *whoosh*
He just announced the review is coming on topicarlo
no release time tho
@@AHAD1101it will be 6 years
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Best part of the video honestly
I was just gonna comment this 😂
whenever I hear a UA-cam say "but enough wasting time" I habitually skip forward a minute
Well is such a beautiful demon
I'm so sick of UA-camrs putting their ads in the middle of other dialogue, out of nowhere. It would be so much better if they just clearly outlined where the ad is, using timestamps, and place it either at the beginning or end of the video.
Whenever you summon an echo, one of the triangle's of Tri's crest is "spent". Some echoes take up two triangles, if you look at the UI closely. On some portions of footage, you can see Tri with four triangles on their crest, so it's certain that this can be upgraded.
I didn't even notice that until you brought it up, so thank you. That's good to know though, definitely an upgradable feature.
oh wow, great attention to detail!
“First 2D Zelda that treats itself like a 3D Zelda” I would say that was A Link Between Worlds on 3DS.
No that was Phantom Hourglass.
@@RyluRocky nah, I would say Phantom Hourglass was repetitive and very limited in is scope.
Having “jump” be inherent in Zelda games is a welcome addition in my eyes lol
It only took them a whopping 30 years to do it, which is amazing considering the biggest character for the company's known for his incredible jumping.
@@CouchSpud91 I actually think it’s because they wanted Link to be distinct from Mario that Nintendo never let jump be inherent to Zelda games until recently.
@@CouchSpud91 lmao, "whopping 30 years" more like one year buddy, it was in zelda 2
@@JoelTheSaunders
After which, they only let you jump by using a specific item.
Welcome to how Soulsborne players felt when Elden Ring finally did it lol!
Zelda has done it before though :)
The way you describe the puzzles reminds me a lot of A Link Between Worlds, where puzzles have multiple solutions but are still very deliberate. That's one of my favs, so that gets me even more excited!
I absolutely adore a Link Between Worlds, if this is similar to it than it might be my new favorite 2D Zelda game
The next 3D Zelda needs something like this.
Is it worth to play it
Albw one of the goats 🐐
@@jameslawrenson1208 probably. This game looks like a response to the tradional zelda fans wanting a more focused experience.
I was actually exhibiting at PAX West, so I made sure that Day 1, I went in extra early, before Media Hour and went straight to Nintendo to play this. I have to say, it honestly blew me away. When the game was first announced, I definitely had my hesitations, due to the re-use of the art style, and Zelda seemingly not having a "normal" way of attacking. I thought that the Echoes were cool, but was bummed thinking that I'd just have to watch enemies I summon fight for me or something; but then.... I played it and, it honestly put all of my worries to rest.
Everything felt SO smooth. Hell, even attacking enemies with rocks was somehow fun. That opening escape sequence was great because I had the guy from Nintendo telling me I was apparently doing things that the employees hadn't even tried (which we can blame on the fact that professionally, I'm a QA Lead so I tend to do weird obscure stuff while playing on accident haha). I was initially worried that we'd just be getting ALTTP map for a third time, but again, everything felt fresh and unique. That outside area, and small village after the initial escape certainly FELT new to me, and not like we were just retreading old ground. I could probably gush about this game forever now.
Nothing feels better than when you have your reservations about a game only for the game to absolutely crush them and show you how awesome it truly is.
How do you feel Zelda compares to what you were exhibiting😂
@@TheCookieDoeDeer I mean, it's impossible to compare the games we were exhibiting to Zelda, so I'm not even going to try haha.
It's kind of insane how this feels like a reverse scenario of totk, where everyone was very hyped before launch but then the reused map didn't feel as fresh as we hoped
I really like the echos mechanics it keeps me busy and doesn't get boring. Keeping busy is what keeps me focus nowadays, always having to do something has made me interested in this new zelda game.
The grass-cutting is great, but the spin is also definitely the faster way to move around.
6:55 It boggles the mind why Nintendo haven't used a grid instead of a line. The current inventory system they have is so space inefficient.
Especially since time is frozen in the inventory so it doesn't even impede gameplay.
Exactly! It's not like you need to see behind it to check for enemies! Dark Souls pulls up a whole screen-occupying menu without pausing a thing lmao
It would actually be harder to navigate a grid than this line, because you’d have to look both laterally and vertically. But it would be faster.
It's the same nonsense mentality they have towards the Switch's main screen and storefront. It's like they hired the worst possible person to design their organizational systems.
Or even like a favourites system so you can choose a set of echoes to be really quick to find
folders, nintendo. let us organize them into folders. it'll cut out so much scrolling
I'm betting that it's going to be a "most used" option. Other than that I'm doubtful that they're going to revamp the long-ass list of echoes in any way. It's definitely going to drag down the mid-to-late-game
15:40 Arlo won't admit it, but he yearns for Spirit Tracks
Totally agree, like both it and phantom hourglass have exactly what he's saying. I think it's more of a symptom that we haven't had a new 2d zelda in 10 years
YESS EXACTLY
Ooo I own both Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks on Wii U should I play thru before Echoes?
@@jacobradabaugh6241 if you have the time, of course! An acquired taste, but I think they're some of the most interestingly designed Zelda games period. And they've also got two of the series' very best companion characters as well♡
@@jacobradabaugh6241They've got fundamental differences from "traditional" 2D Zelda, but they're very good games! I never played Phantom Hourglass, but I played Spirit Tracks at least twice and I adore the heck out of it.
A top down zelda game focused on puzzles, it reminds me of the ittledew games which Arlo recommended to me a few years back
I need the next 2 weeks to FLY BY. I NEED to be playing this game ASAP
Same fam
I think there’s a good chance it may release early since it’s already been ripped and shared online. Spoilers will be flowing starting tomorrow.
@@Cybo-Man Well time to stat avoiding echoes related videos then
@@Cybo-Man You got a source? Just curious 'cause I've checked and I still have yet to see it.
echo a bird or bat..... oh, not helpful?
I've already paid for my copy in full, have the receipt on my fridge, and announce to my roommates every morning how many days remain until Echoes of Wisdom before I head off to work. I love videogames but can't get as excited as I did in youth. However this title has my 32 year old soul soaring higher than it has in a long time for a videogame.
Lucky, I'm happy for you. Tears of the Kingdom has jaded me to the point where I don't trust Nintendo to make good Zelda games anymore. Like it seems like they fundamentally don't understand how to make them anymore. Even in this game it looks like the echoes all amount to just stairs and blockades. I really wish they would have given Zelda her own moveset with some spells and abilities but her echo ability isn't even hers, it belongs to Tri.
This is the first time I've looked forward to a Nintendo game since Twilight Princess (and Skyward Sword, but best to forget about that one)
My first game ever was Link's Awakening DX, and now I have a 10 year old son who loved the Link's Awakening remake. So we are both gonna play it together and I'm looking forward to it. You'd be surprised how ingenious kids can be with solving multi solution puzzles.
Im glad youre happy… but god that would annoy me if you were my roommate
You're lucky your roommate hasn't murdered you, it's just a game. You should be more worried about having roommates at 32
@@zacziggarot ”they don’t understand how to make them anymore” do you realize how entitled you sound? you’re telling me that you KNOW for a fact that this experienced group of developers simply do not know what they are doing anymore. mind you, the same people who worked on the zelda games you loved are still working on the new ones. they are trying to reinvent zelda, i’ll admit not everything has worked but please stop with that nonsense of thinking you know better than the developers who have been creating these games for decades.
I got to play the demo and I have very similar thoughts!! A lot of what I noticed too was visuals especially since it's using the Link's Awakening style.
I feel like in a lot of ways, this game feels so much more visually stunning than Link's Awakening but in very subtle ways. But notably I had to pause my demo speedrunning for a second in the garden area after the guards because wow that little space alone was just gorgeous. I don't remember even a single area in Link's Awakening looking so nice and this is the first 10 minutes!!
I was also worried about the Echo Menu Management. My hope is that a lot of puzzles that require echoes will require some TYPE of echo instead of very particular ones.
Like even in the demo, they'd give you a certain echo to use for progress but you could probably make another one work. And maybe later some puzzles just need any "Heavy" echo or "Tall" or "Breakable" echo and so on to solve the puzzle.
So if there's truly no additional echo management tools, I hope the flexibility on the echoes that'll do the job for the curated challenges to be enough for us to quickly flick down the list a couple spaces and find something that'll work at least
That's not surprising since Link's Awakening on Switch was a 1 to 1 remake of a Gameboy game, so they had to make everything match and couldn't get too much more creative with sizes and spaces. This one is designed from scratch as a totally new adventure, just using the same basic engine and graphical style, but with a lot more creativity.
Yessss. I've seen some other UA-camrs post their first impressions. I'm glad you had the opportunity as well. Definitely looks like it's going to be one of the best 2D Zelda games.
My favorite in a while is a link between worlds. This looks like it could be as fun if not more
🤦 I really dislike how we're calling a 3D game 2D, even "2D style" is wrong since the last 4 games of the style have all been 3D. Call it "overhead" or something
@@zacziggarot Overhead 3D sounds perfect to me!
But relative to 3D Zeldas, top down Zelda has always been 2D, unless you count Zelda 2 as actual 2D or something @@zacziggarot
I’m surprised Nintendo would waste kiosk space on Star Wars Hunters.
I can only assume they got a big bag of money for it from the publisher.
Not if they didn't have to pay for it...
Personally, I think reviews, previews and first impressions like this one should be kept on the main channel. They are big and important enough for that, as more traditional "gaming journalism" stuff.
@6:55 I had hoped the next game using that menu would improve it to a grid where each category had its own row. Still, can't wait to play it!
I think it could also work if they were organzied in a wheel format like the course parts in Super Mario Maker. Like, you could just pull up the wheel menu, sort by category, and flick a directional input to quickly select the echo you want.
Honestly, it's not a big deal to me. It looks cool to see selectors flashing across in a line mid-action rather than a boring Menu or 'grid' like every other game that just opens up because people think ''that's the way''.
Let the nitpickers moan again, We will enjoy EoW.
It literally shows in the video that there's a sort button...
I beat the game today, no spoilers here but it is a MUST PLAY!! Combat takes some getting used to but please give it a try it its so cool and awesome
Something that would be amazing: if this game has something like eventide island, where you lose all your echos and have to solve the area with just the echoes that you find in that area. It would really help push the puzzle nature to its limits
you must have been overjoyed about the sleep dojo's blank slate levels! :) i had a ton of fun with them
@sabrinafletcher7884 I was, I just want more. So many more. I would buy dlc that is just a series of these rooms. Sort of like a Cave of Ordeals from Twilight Princess.
So happy to hear you enjoyed it and are feeling good about it. Love Arlos excited about Zeldas. 🙌
He's a shill.... That's what they do....
I got caught like 4 times in the demo and was still able to make it to the end haha I think they gave plenty of time for us to figure stuff out and see everything.
Never thought I'd be excited for a stealth section in game, but just the fact that you don't have to crouch-walk around the place to do it makes me so happy. I never got the appeal of that. It's slow and tedious.
So ridiculously excited for this game. I havent been this excited for a game since 2017
I'll admit, my biggest fear about this game is that combat is going to be too passive for my tastes. That a lot of it is going to be hanging back and letting your echoes handle it without much participation from the player.
The other stuff you can do with echoes looks fun though, and I'm happy to see the return of actual dungeons. Also, the fact that this might be more story-heavy than most Zelda games is exciting too!
One of the first trailers shows you able to pick up something that shoots literal missiles at the opponents, I don't think it's all going to be passive. Also, it seems that a lot of the time where you place the enemy is super important
I like how Skyward sword music kicked in when he was talking about linear design
the star wars hunters thing is funny too when you consider the games like
been out on switch for like 3 months and its free
I think the reviews/impressions fit well on the main channel. It’s not updated as often as the new Topic Arlo channel. Taking away that section from the main channel means even less updates for the fans that enjoy it.
I have a feeling that the next Zelda game's main mechnic could be cpaturing and using monsters in battle with Echoes of Wisdom being a test for it.
Why do you have that feeling? When has Zelda EVER done anything but a one-off gimmick? Other than collecting macguffins at the end of dungeons, the series has always changed. I can only think of two examples where the one-off gimmick became a two-off gimmick
@@zacziggarot He just wanted to talk and say things, essentially.
Zeldamon lol
There was a rumor about the Switch 2 having scroll wheels for shoulder buttons, and I gotta think this game would be perfect for it in terms of scrolling through the inventory of echoes.
Sort button @ 7:30
Thanks for this.
Yesterday, found myself thinking of Sphinx's puzzle progression finally reaching capturing monsters to use their elemental abilities. Good stuff.
I was surprised about the part of manually making your echoes target enemies. That sounds cool!!
This review made me hopeful that I will like the game. Deliberate puzzles with more set solutions is something I like, even if there are multiple solutions I don't like feeling like everything works.
The thing is though is that a handful of those solutions are probably always going to be the same, things like "just build a staircase around the problem and you can avoid the puzzle entirely" or "build a ladder". Feels like all of the echo abilities all just amount to either a bridge, a blockade, or stairs
@@zacziggarot Nope, lol. Plus you can only have a certain amount out at a time, so if you need to get up really high or across a larger gap you obviously have to use other things.
Any official preview content like this should absolutely be on the main channel!
This is in the right place - it belongs on the main channel!
6:45 "... 3 at a time. I don't know if that increases." While showing multiple clips of having 4 echoes out at a time.
3:15 No more Mr. Nice guy!
I'm glad this game is coming out after UFO 50 because I'm going to be very busy with that for a good week before it releases. You can't keep me away from that game
Doesn’t LTTP start with Zelda in jail and Link has to break her out?
No his uncle is in jail and gives him a sword I believe.
@@RyluRocky it’s funny. I actually have since played ALTTP and EoW and what happens in the former is his uncle goes to break Zelda out of jail but you find him dying at the entrance of the prison and gives you the sword. In EoW Zelda doesn’t start in prison but is put there a little bit after the game starts.
they should have had a demo for the patrick game instead of star wars hunters
THANK YOU for saving the story spoilers for the end and putting a warning before them!
This is off topic but I genuinely can't understand why you dont have well over a million subs yet. You put way more effort into your content than a majority of youtubers and you're just so likable, Arlo!
I already have this pre-ordered and so hyped. I love that they brang back the new Links Awakening artstyle
I just wish that they also brought back Link, as well. I hope that they don't stray too far from some of what made the previous games so great. I really love being a humble warrior, journeying to save my beloved princess from evil. I feel like this is part of a recent trend, especially with Peach's game also in the limelight. Not that I mind playing as the princesses once in a while, or them having their own games, but a little concerning.
@@shefalichow7917 you’ve had 2 decades or so of games fitting that exact description, and they’re just as good if not better on subsequent playthroughs. They ain’t going anywhere.
Let new entries try new things instead of rehashing the same narrative or mechanical formula - after all, this series has survived for so long *because* it knows when to evolve and mix things up.
@@rickygforce4217 More like four decades. "Let new entries try new things" Except pretty much every game in the past tried new things, while keeping the overarching story and characters in the form we love(d). That's a bad excuse to totally switch gears and take the story/characters in a vastly different direction (I'm not saying this is the case with this latest game, although it is the most changed yet). Twilight Princess, Windwaker etc. were amazing and different, all while still honoring the roles of the characters and the story.
"This series has survived so long because..." It has survived not only because of ingenuity, but also because of the story and characters everyone already loves. Maybe you don't count yourself among them, and mainly care about gameplay, and that's fine, but then it's no longer "The Legend of Zelda."
I can't wait for this game to release but I'm most excited for you to review it!❤
Arlo- no interruptions, here we go-
5 seconds later- BEFORE that, this video is sponsored by RAYCON!! 😂
lol not to be a pedant but the first 2D "Zelda" to give players the ability to jump as an intrinsic ability is in fact the second one ever made, "Zelda II: The Adventure of Link". I do think "Echoes of Wisdom" is the first *top-down* 2D "Zelda" where this is the case, though,.
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I wish we'd stopped calling these games 2D since they've been 3D for the last four iterations, I'm counting the DS games, Link between worlds, and the Link's Awakening remake. We should really start gravitating to "overhead" or "top down" like you said
I just can't believe more people in the industry aren't making a big issue out of the outer screen blur. It's fucking horrendous
My hype is building so much for this game! I can't wait to grab it when it comes out!
Arlo: I know Breath of the Wild introduced the ability to jump...
Zelda 2, Link's Awakening, Oracles, and Minish Cap: DUDE WHAT THE HELL?!
bunch of fake zelda fans on here tbh
Imagine all they do to change the switch from the switch 2 is add a little dial that allows you to toggle inventory or select screens with ease.
Just like a little rubber gear near the plus sign that gives people that extra speed when choosing an item in a game.
for something as big as an early hands on with a new zelda game, I'm glad it is on this channel!
Realised this morning that you are the only one online I'd trust about this game! Thank you Arlo!
Love that you feel great about it based on the demo! :D I think when I play this game I’ll really love it
Appreciate the first impression video, boy I gotta say we have been able to jump in 2D LoZ since Link's Awakening.
Would love to hear your thoughts on other games you played atPax! Maybe in a Tropic Arlo video?
still not a fan of the art style, but gameplay seems really cool! excited to play
Zelda stuff on this channel, it’s always big enough
I am thrilled to hear about all of this, hooray!!!
Zelda II was a 2D game that allowed arbitrary jumping. Why does everyone always forget that one?
The part about the first 2D Zelda treating itself as a 3D Zelda got me so hype lol
Like the last four 2D Zeldas all have been 3D 😂
I found the scrolling fine. You can also just open the regular menu with +.
I am playing this game now and it is so dang good. It kind of reminds of SUper Mario RPG with the jumping and 2d world with vertical levels to it.
I got baited so hard by that ad transition
You can see a category sorter for your Echoes on screen when you're asking if there'll be a more convenient way to find them lol. Looks like BOTW's/TOTK's but with gladly more options
Wow he finally posted to the main channel!
been playing it for a few days because I got sick and it got leaked, and I can confirm it's really good. Idk if it's as good as a link between worlds (my personal favorite 2d zelda) but it's promising. I'm currently a bit over half way through the story as of writing this.
Lucky you get to play the new legend of Zelda game early. I am so excited to hear what you have to say about it!
Can’t wait for the demo to be made publicly available several months after the game’s release.
Arlo doesn't exist, he cannot go outside
Raycon:
Sounds great I hope this demo goes public on the eShop.
I actually do like the look of this. It reminds me of my favorite game in RPG Maker, which might just be the structural change that Zelda needed for me.
Arlo’s feeling the itch for traditional puzzle design.
We won guys
Thanks for the preview review!
Huh, you’re posting to other channels. That explains why I haven’t seen much of you. Unlike most people, I subscribe to those I want to listen to and then mostly use my subscriptions list for content, and that means I have a heavily curated list… but I won’t be adding a ton of other sub channels to it because I manually curate it, and I’m already at 50ish and that’s almost too big to manually curate quickly.
I can't wait to see the beds only speed run.
"CANT STOP WON'T STOP!!!" Arlo is here
I’m surprised Arlo hasn’t made the connection with Pikmin yet. The cursor lock-on to guide your echoes is a bit similar to guiding your Pikmin around.
I am so excited for this game. It releases the day after my birthday!
The number of echos is upgradable. There are some clips in the trailers that show Tri has more triangles. In fact, you used one of them in this video 8:15
He said this is trailer footage.
@@Incompetent_Hero I never said it wasn’t trailer footage? I was just pointing out that some of the trailer footage used in his own video, answers one of his questions from playing the demo.
I've never been this excited for a Zelda game, esp a 2D one
It looks like a great blend of old n new Zelda
Y'all need to learn what 2D means 😂 like it's not even a 2d style anymore, cuz the last four games that have been like this have all been 3D
@@zacziggarot
When Zelda fans say 2D, they don't mean art style. If they were, it'd be called 2.5D anyways, not 3D. Minish Cap would not be a 3D game if it were remade with models instead of sprites. The gameplay is what is being referred to, not the graphics. Do you think that recent Prince of Persia game is 3D? Or what about Kirby pre forgotten land? Would you call Return to Dreamland a 3D game? If so, then you are just not gonna find anyone who agrees with you.
I don't think YOU even know what fans mean when they say 2D. There's no .5 about the last four anyways, they're FULLY 3D. Being 3D isn't an art style, it's how many dimensions it has. Ocarina of Time could be considered a 2d Zelda then if Link's Awakening remake is a 2d Zelda now. How is it any different? The style of game is still EXACTLY the same, ONLY THING that changes is the camera angle, all that third dimension really equates to is having to look up occasionally to hit a switch or flying enemy anyways. Wow, the game added ladders, looks like we're in three dimensions now. Remember back in the good old days when you got amazed by the 3D graphics of the PNG of death mountain in the distance?
I think it's funny that you want to compare Kirby games that are ACTUALLY two dimensional what with the lack of depth movement. It's funny that you had to specify PRE forgotten land because forgotten land's maps are basically Link's Awakening with the top down view 🤣
Sorry, Kirby I guess you're still a 2d game 🤷
In wind waker you can't fly, you're always stuck on the ground and sailing on the sea on a 2d plane. Uh-oh looks like it's two-dimensional now 😐
That's what you sound like 🙃
@@zacziggarot🤡
I think this game will make me nostalgic for the old overlord games
echoes do increase in the game, the number you can cast is how many little triangles Tri has. Also some stuff costs more than one triangle
Much epic, Arlo Upload relating to thee Echoes of Wisdom
Super turned on for this game! Cannot wait!
7:04 oh no.. if it's like totk scrolling I'm gonna trash on this game so hard, they took a lot from botw/totk, sigh.
I like how if you use sponsorblock (sorry Arlo) he just jumps on screen, shouts "Beef" and jumps off 😂
Is it out yet? Can't wait
Of course, the game isn't out yet, so we don't know for sure how it will be in the later part, but from what I have seen so far I hope this game will be a model for whatever the next 3D Zelda game is. Having more fleshed-out and deliberate sections of self-contained gameplay like the dungeons in this game would address a lot of concerns people have with the open-world 3D Zelda. The repetitive bite-sized shrines and checkpoint-based dungeons don't really satisfy people's hunger for the more puzzle-oriented side of Zelda as well as it could be.
@4:57 *_Zelda II: The Adventure of Link_*_ is the first 2D Zelda where you can jump at _any_ time, _without_ an Item. Unless one wants to nitpick and point out that you cannot jump on the Overworld Map... but you cannot attack on the Overworld Map, either. In fact, all you can do on the Overworld Map in this game is move Up, Down, Left, and Right plus use certain Overworld Items. If you encounter an Enemy Icon, a Fairy Icon, touch a Town, etc. the game shifts from 2D Overworld to 2D sideview Stage, which is where all combat and much exploration happens.
Now, this might be the first 2D overhead or three-quarters perspective Zelda game where a character can jump as a basic command.
I would say Minish Cap treated itself like a 3D Zelda in terms of story and depth
I feel like Oracle of Ages had quite a lot of story to it, at least at the start and end.
I like the elements of Pikmin introduced with the echoes
I think the game would've massively benefited from having dedicated Sword and Echo modes. As in, you put away the Tri Rod and Zelda can use the sword, bow, and other items just like Link can. Battling enemies with echo summons, just mulling around waiting for enough crystals to transform into "Link Mode" is just so dull.
You can make smoothies to refill your swordfighter mode bar.
Wow I’m even more hyped I can’t wait 🤯
Star Wars hunters is actually a pretty fun lil game!
I’m really curious about the frame rate. Link’s Awakening on switch had some issues and I’m curious if they ironed that out for Echos.