What Other Series Would Be Cool to Run at Monaco?
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- Опубліковано 27 тра 2023
- Indycar at Monaco would be fun. It'd just be a shorter, tighter Long Beach really. But since it's the Indy 500 and Monaco GP today, I figured it would be cool to run the Dallara IR18 round the Monaco Street Circuit and see how it would pan out. The cars are smaller, it might work.
I've also run some other series, just to see what other things might run well here. What do you think?
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LMP3 dentists for the memes.
😂😂😂 world record red flags incoming
ELMS in Monaco confirmed.
And Indy car would work here as these cars ant the size of trucks like F1. or even Supercars could work.
Clio's, Mini's, Karts would be fun. Something smaller in size for more opportunities to pass in places you shouldn't be able to.
For a serious reply, Formula Ford 1600. The cars would be small enough that racing would actually be possible...
For a not-so-serious reply, the European Truck Racing Championship. Sending several 7.5 ton HGV's hooning around Monaco should be worth a laugh!
The Stadium Super Truck series would be a perfect fit for Monaco. I'm sure that Robbie Gordon would jump on an invite if they offered.
"jump" on an invite 😆
they'll put the jumping ramp at mirabeau to skip the grand hotel hairpin
@@musyarofah1 hah! I love that
oh yeah, they could also skip the nouvelle chicane entirely lol
Straight into the harbour😂
@@musyarofah1 I was hoping they would put it at the swimming pool section and jump over the swimming pool.
WEC at Monaco just for the memes
Oh my god, LMP1 overtaking GTE-AM cars would've been hilarious 🤣🤣
I would have liked to see TCR against LMP1s at Monaco, just to compare the minimum speeds at the hairpin. I feel like the TCR cars, being made for rotation and much smaller, would actually be faster at the hairpin.
@@AndrewGeierMelons I’ll try it out in Assetto Corsa, Im curious now
24 hours du Monaco. Imagine 60 car field going round there
24 hours of Monaco. You could picture the Lmh and Lmdh cars thumping round there!
Yes please 😂
Racing Indycars around F1 tracks and F1 cars around tracks like Barber is the most fun you can have imo.
Let's go crazy and run NASCAR Cup Series cars at Monaco, with the old maximum NASCAR Cup Series grid size of 43 cars
Edit: also if we're truly going insane, let's ship the F1 cars to Knoxville, Iowa and run them under World of Outlaws rules
I know a sim racing group doing a Le Mans event that is including the generic "nascar" model as a class. I had never driven the nascar before and it was eye opening how fun it is to manhandle those things around a road course is
I want NASCAR Cup at Spa.
I took a W12 on iRacing to Eldora and clapped the track record. the car didnt even slide, the downforce just shoves it into the dirt so hard that it grips like it's on pavement
@@jeremeymcdude I really get the feeling in real life a W12 would suck all the dirt off the track in real life.
@@danielhenderson8316 What actually would happen is that the floor would probably rip off the car unless they sat it high enough to clear most of the dirt. if you look at a dirt late model, a lot of times you'll see cars where their nose valences are digging into the dirt at low speeds just because of how they're designed to seal as much of the underside off as they can without destroying the nose of the car.
Could you imagine the carnage would be a race 3 from the bttc around Monaco.
I think an Indy Car race here could work because you could actually pass along with other motorsports with closed fenders because the cars are smaller. The main issue F1 has at Monaco now, the cars are f***ing tanks in size.
Let's face it, tanks would probably give us a better race 🤣
@@ashleysymonds4704 I'd laugh so hard at that race because you just know the U.S. Army would be perfectly willing to pull the HSTV-L prototype out of storage, get the suspension working again, and just fucking _send_ that thing with its hilarious hp/ton ratio.
@@ashleysymonds4704 So would a grid a Mercedes S-Classes which are the same size as a modern F1 car.
Even Porsche supercups struggle to pass
@@griffinfaulkner3514 I approve of this. USA US A USA! hahah
Supercars could maybe make monaco work if they had more rigid suspension parts
I wondered if he would bring them along but I suspect Emree has already answered that question
I think anything with fenders would have a better chance here because, well, bump-and-run is viable and that's about the only way you can get by. Touring cars in particular are also slower, which means that the straights are effectively longer and they have more time to set up passes.
Bump n run has been illegal in Britain and Australia for some time. 😅
As you no doubt would know, the 1952 race at Monaco was run as an event for sportscars. In 1955, Henry Hathaway made a movie with Kirk Douglas called "The Racers" based on a novel by Hans Reusch. The movie incorporates a fair amount of film from several seasons of European racing, including footage of that race. If you can find a copy of it, you can see Kirk himself in what I remember as a 212 Vignale spyder with a rear-projection of the then-Monaco course displayed behind him A kind of 60-yearold celluloid precurser to this video, if you will. So...maybe a round of the Ferrari Challenge Cup staged there with an all-star cast of drivers if and when Monaco loses its F1 date? GREAT video, Aiden. Thanks for making it.
IRL btcc race, fully reversed grid race sutton Ingram etc at the back of the grid just to prove you can overtake anywhere at monaco 😂 also the world rally championship has raced the gp circuit a few times in the past as a special stage which was pretty neat
😂😂😂
Formula E proved that its possible to pass anywhere, given the appropriate amount of testicular fortitude
@@Ramtamtama FE Monaco was madness!
World Rallycross. The entire circuit is too long overall, and has too many long straights, but they could use the original Formula E layout; a hard right just before Saint Devote, run backwards down the escape road, and rejoin the course with a hairpin right at the chicane. They kind of used this layout in Dirt 3.
dirt and joker?
The Settrington Cup!
Spec Miata. Because there is actually overtakes to be had.
I'm imagining Aussie Supercars on the streets of Monaco.
V8 supercars was my first thought too.
I was thinking of that too. That would be fun to watch!
F1 cars at Bathurst, someone make that happen (in real life!)
@@simontravers2715 you haven't seen the danny ric publicity day with him and the current gen V8 support car video? I think it dropped at the beginning or right before the beginning of this season.
@@simontravers2715 ua-cam.com/video/CcaHIJChelM/v-deo.html
Caterham racing would be outstanding at Monaco.
I would've said superbikes,but then i remembered what usually happens at Macau.
Okay, so hear me out, Superkarts. The 250cc full circuit monsters. They'd be extremely rapid, but also small enough that you could theoretically pass.
IndyCar's push to pass would be very interesting at Monaco IMO.
I really enjoy vintage sports cars, when Good Wood posts their full race races after the revival that's my favorite to watch I would like to watch those at Monaco
250cc Superkart, Race Of Champions Buggy
V8 supercars, the hairpin on lap 1 would be an epic bump, grind, push and shove and not to mention the restarts into turn 1. Would make bloody great television
Loved that video
I know it would be as dangerous as hell but motogp/superbikes at Monaco would be a sight to see and would look so cool through the swimming pool section flicking back and forth.
Legends is the answer. 5/8th scale hotrods. Or maybe Aussie Racing Cars.
watching indy 500 live now (first time watching.... just watched the pit lane crash) all i can say is WFT is that pit lane about!!! is it based on carmageddon? how is EVERYONE not dead in the pit lane :P :P :P
Picked a heck of a first one to watch.
That Red/White/Checkered finish discussion is going to fill several comment sections.
@DavePaints You think Indy pit lane is dangerous? The 60s version of Spa pit lane b4 Eau Rouge 😖 was something else!
@@simontravers2715 yea but that was 60s everything then was deadly :p this 2023 and that was just a s**tshow :p
Having 33 cars pitting all at the same time is going to have some low speed incidents, but I'm thinking this year that Danica Patrick has a good point that too many teams cranked too much left front wing which caused the uncharacteristic tire problems and some of the cars spearing left.
@@jarradchapman4271 I hate it. it's the F1's GWC virus infecting the Indy.
I think motogp would be cool to see at Monaco
No too dangerous. There’s a reason they don’t race around street circuits
Cool if you would like to see Moto Riders...Go...SPLAT!
@@F1MonopostoChampionship motorbikes race at Macau
I would be intrigued but that would never happen due to safety risks. No run off area really to allow the riders to safety jump off the bike in case of a crash
@@mramaz1ngarry728 but they ride super bikes which I think is lighter and more suitable to street circuits
I still think the best Euro-American crossover would be a Nascar race at Spa. That track suprizingly fits well with nascars style
Nascar Cup cars would be bumper cars and a crashfest. And there would be no such thing as track limits.
IndyCar has the most experience in these types of races. They race 6 street courses per year and have also been a lot of other similar tracks. (Including Surfer's Paradise)
I was thinking that, but at tracks like here in Toronto (I type this no more than ten minutes drive away from the hairpin) there's overtaking zones that actually work without needing rain. I don't think Indycars would be much different in Monaco than F1 cars... the track just doesn't work anymore.
Get the old USAC Gold Crown cars, put on Sprint Car wings where the sideboards are modified to be equal height, and send those around Monaco
WRC and WEC, let's get some Hybrid Rally and Prototypes up in here! Or maybe even those insane Hill Climb beasts, like the Pike's Peak Specials! I see you there, Suzuki Escudo, chomping at the bit, ready for a run!
Indycar in Monaco. Could they? Yes. Should they? Yes. Will they? Nope. Unfortunately
Karting World Championship. It's as wide as a Karting track, so might as well. Monaco, but with overtaking!!
I distinctly recall there being rumours of the class 1 DTM being in talks regarding racing at Monaco, I think it was mentioned as a side note during one of the 2 Norisring races in 2019. Might've been pre--2019 though, so then it would've been the pre-class 1 V8 cars that some V8 lovers dislike.
Laptimes!!! I want.laptimes!
That was fun, but I really was hoping you would post laptimes for comparison.
Love your channel, even if I'm a Yank.
I wonder what the expense to ship all the IndyCar's over to Monaco would be. You think Penske would be able to get a groupon for all the teams?
IMSA MX-5 Series. Or any sort of GT4/GT3 class series. The MX-5 race would be as brutal as a BTCC race and it's a car recognizable around the world.
Either flat track racing with 750cc Indian and Harley Davidsons, the local hot rod drags (run what ya brung, pre-1980), Volkswagen Beetle racing, Local kids from Monaco schools building a car that can do as many laps as possible within three hours from junk, RC Racing on the whole circuit, or the old moonshine runners cars.
Seeing as Indycar does have its own version of Loews corner it has to navigate at Long Beach (Albeit, as the final corner before the start/finish line), I think they'd handle Monaco just fine (As long as the drivers remember to avoid that big bump before Mirabeau).
Nice to see my fav BTCC car at monaco haha
nice video. Aussie Racing Cars is another idea for a sereis that would be cool around Monaco and i guess in theroy bike racing since they do it at Macau
Intersting choice of IR18. A Lotus. Brave choice, Aiden. Brave.
It’s a Brabham. Well, Brabham esports.
I'd love to see Formula Drift cars drifting out the Loews hairpin!
Id pay for that flight and ticket!
Aiden, I love these “What if” series, but, would it be possible to do them with a field / a few cars? We know most circuits can handle a single car, but would Indycar/what ever your looking at be able to race at these circuits?
Just an idea for going forward. Sorry if the answer is a straight no, I’m not a game player, even though I enjoy watching yours, go figure!
Because the AI in these games are idiots.
@Aidan Millward fair enough.
Well, Swift Cup Europe's cars have the perfect size for Monaco...
I’ve said got ages that the BTCC should have an international round at Monaco. Imagine the scenes.
Crown Vic youtuber race ;)
also formula drift would be cool too, run the course backwards with a start in the tunnel.
wec would be fun
GT3 Trophy at Monaco would be awesome
I think Indy would be fine in the sense that it'd look just like F1.... but the problem is that it'd look just like the dull F1 races we get now (well, at least it rained this year so it wasn't as bad as usual).
Now, you want some fun? Run F1 around an Indy street course where they're set up better for passing (or carnage, in the case of something like the Lakeshore hairpin in Toronto)
If you've ever watched Macau before World Superbikes would be brilliant
How about a caterham based series. Those cars have not outgrown the circuit.
Yup, it is only turning left yet when some German chap by the name of Michael Schumacher was asked at a US GP if he'd run the 500, he said no. It was too mental for him to run at 230 up to those walls.
He also said it was below him.
A 24h race.
Tiny narrow cars like what used to race at Monaco back when it was an actual race, something which you are apparently totally clueless.
The road car based series are good any of them. Indy would be awesome too but conflicting events unless they can close down Monaco at a later date? Or imagine the wec hypercars😂😂
Yes, we really need more races without overtakings.
Lots of overtakes does not a great race make.
@@AidanMillward yes, but at least a little possibility of overtaking help a lot.
@@AidanMillwardyou good?
I can see at least 2 series that would work here other than Formula e.
TCR World Tour, since touring car races on street circuits are just perfect (Pau, Vila Real and Boavista comes to mind), and GT World Challenge Sprint Cup. Since the demise of Baku City Challenge (which turned into Baku City Circuit for Azerbaijan GP) we have not had GT races on street circuit other than Macau. Also, fits the demography of Monaco perfectly, what with all those 488 Pistas and Huracan STOs and the lot flooding the city every year.
I kind of wish you had more fun with the vehicles you chose. I would have liked to see a 250 super kart. Maybe the European semi trucks. How about a Porsche 919 EVO or a 1984 Porsche 962.
the F1 race runs special monaco-spec cars aka peel p50s or reliant robins
Indy Cars: Could work
Touring Cars: could definetly work, because they work at macau in some sorts, which is a faster version of monaco.
DTM before 2022: could work eventually
GT3: could maybe work
The Mini series ? At least they're small and perhaps more opportunities for action with such small cars. Apart from that nothing really, most cars are too big to really "race" at Monaco nowadays, love the track and the spectacle but in reality not great racing for some years now. Maybe they should just do a Time trial weekend at Monaco instead.
Silver crown or the smaller non wing sprint cars would be amazing at monoco
DTM is too much of a risk, because with an onboard TV there's a chance the drivers would be able to watch the race and they might fall asleep at the wheel.
Serious answer: Probably GT3, because what you don't want is a spec series where the cars are all fast in the same way so they do the same things at the same point in each corner. That's what leads to the giant accordion that is processional racing.
American formulas are a blast at any F1 circuits... the opposite is true only on American road venues. My favorite is an Indy car at Monza
I'm just here for Tingers. #TinTopTuesday
I want to see a change of the layout and add another passing point. After the pool, get rid of the second chicane, make it a straight to the Rascasse. Move the grandstands inside the track. Drivers can usually stay close through Tabac, so this isn't infeasable.
IndyCar is going hybrid, so they'll be tanks, too.
The indycar, 24 hours of Monaco! It only makes sense; everything else on the planet is turned up to 11, why not this?
Man those DTM cars were so cool. :/
I fully advocate for the BTCC to utilise the original 100-lap format as an enduro-type event, so that the normal drivers would be paired up with the F1 drivers - Ash Sutton and Dan Cammish would be partnered by Verstappen and Perez, Lewis would help Nic out a bit, and even the test drivers would get a turn as well.
Alan Gow, I urge you to do it - you have got Prince Albert's phone number, haven't you?
Just imagining trying to hustle a stock car through there
The Aston-Fartin sounded like...
Really disappointed you didn't do a run in an Aussie V8 Supercar or a NASCAR around Monaco. That would be exciting.
What was the lap time for the IR18? I’m curious how much faster or slower it was than an F2 car - my suspicion is that it’s faster than F2, but only by a very small margin.
Roughly 1.25.
@@gr0bbelaar turns out my guess was wrong - F2 pole this year was 1:21.348
How about a race for Citroen Amis. One idiot has already come a cropper at the Station Hairpin and put his passenger in hospital!
I'm impressed how fast the M4 took the Piscine corner. I also now understand why they were so expensive... You probably have nearly as much downforce as a pre 2017 F1 car.
GT500 cars were described as prototypes disguised as GT cars, and have slightly more downforce than an LMP2 car the last time I checked, so not _quite_ F1 downforce levels, but not very far off.
You left out the only car that might be able to race round here the F4 cars but how big are they compared to the 90’s F1 cars?
King of rhe roads or world Superbikes would work well at Monaco. You would get all the top road races and short circuit guys
Sure, a few sim laps in an Indy car seems fun. But a full grid with these cars is only slightly better than the mutch-too-big f1s. Now try a field of Porache 917s and a Ferrari P3 or a Ford GT Mk2.
Let them have a try
Rallycross cars and have a road race on superbikes there
Indy could work well at Monaco. What about NASCAR Trucks?
Nascar 😂 but serious touring car series or rallycross with dirt from casino Square to tunnel
Ok, I am confused (nothing new there) - US stock cars and V8 Supercars are the same just running with different specs. Put simply, GT seems like the same, but for high end manufacturers. Are Saloon cars / BTCC cars the same thing just for normal manufacturers that don't fit NASCAR / Supercars?
Monaco GP horse race
What about supercars?
24 hours of monaco
Aussie Supercars
NASCAR of course
WSBK but i doubt the bikers would do it, wtcc/btcc would be good after that you are back to indycar/indylights
Karts?
People who compare Indy car to F1 are not real race fans 👏😎🏁 both are great. 👍
Well said, Bob.
Why not Superkarts?
V8 supercars
Or
24hours endurance racing
NLS/VLN at Monaco plz
So it's not a Nurburgring Langstrecken Serie. It's a Monaco Kurzstrecken Serie.
When TCR can race in Macau, then why not in Monaco?
Monster trucks?
Div1 superkarts
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