@@xondeez757At worst it will dramatically reduce the population of the world, but no it will not be the end of humanity. Drop us back to the stone Age, sure, but not our end.
@@xondeez757 You're mistaking something. The soviets independently developed their own bomb. The world has a clear idea at that time what the future will be after the discovery of atomic fission. Infact, compared to fusion bombs, fission bombs is vastly inferior and barely a doomsday scenario even if everyone have it.
@@Volkevism To be fair the Soviets developed their own bomb by having a spy directly within the inner circle of the Manhattan Project to greatly leap their own research ahead. Would the Soviets have gotten the Atomic Bomb? For sure, but without the spy it probably would've taken them a few more years to go through the same process that the US had.
Gary Oldman as President Truman is great here - the moment his pleasure at meeting Oppenheimer turns to fury is outstanding and brilliant! The President was right to be angry - HE, not Oppenheimer, was responsible, rightly or wrongly, to use the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Truman made the decision that needed to be made. That decision that everyone asks for but no one dares to take responsibility for. Truman was a true patriot.
@@somerandomguyonlineforsome7870 like who? MILLIONS and i do mean millions of japanese were starving to death in the mainland, that doesn't include their scourge into china(20 million dead chinese at least) or the oceanic islands and unit 731, it also prevented a total or partial soviet occupation like what happened to vietnam and korea, the korean war killed like 3 million so just imagine a japanese version of that. so yes 200k people as of today for all the millions saved is the one to take
@@somerandomguyonlineforsome7870 don't think it would've been as cruel as hundreds of thousands of American teenagers dying, and the complete and total annihilation of Japanese culture
@username.exenotfound2943 It's really sad that you are so ignorant of history, especially your own history if you are American. Japan was already in a state of economic and military collapse and was about to withdraw. You can't justify dropping atomic bombs on 2 civilian populated areas and killing half a million Japanese. The only reason Truman did this was to prove his power to the world and to intimidate the Soviet Union. He chose to kill half a million civilians rather than a few more American soldiers. I hope you will research and speak more accurately. A few people who opposed the atomic bomb and its dropping. The generals in particular told Truman personally and did not support it. They all had the same reasoning. That Japan was about to withdraw from the war, that civilians should not be killed, that it was morally unethical, and that America would be badly received in world public opinion. William D. Leahy (Chief of Staff to the Commander in Chief), Dwight D. Eisenhower (Supreme Allied Commander in Europe), Herbert Hoover (31st President of the United States), Chester W. Nimitz (Commander in Chief of the Pacific Fleet), Curtis LeMay (Strategic Air Command Leader), Frank McCoy (General and Peace Conference Delegate), Leo Szilard (Physicist, Manhattan Project Scientist), Albert Einstein (Physicist and Humanitarian), Douglas MacArthur (Supreme Commander for the Allied Powers in Japan).
I love how Truman sarcastically mentions Nagasaki when telling Oppenheimer about who gives a shit who built the bomb when couple scenes before Oppenheimer had to remind Truman of Nagasaki like he didn’t care or something when in fact he did but didn’t want to talk about it.
Technically he is, considering all the bad thing the goverment did to him even thought thanks to his invention the war ended. I was amazed how they showed the people who commited so many atrocities against not only their enemies, but even to their own people as the victims.
First, Oppenheimer by himself invented technically at max 10% of the concept of the atomic fission of the A bomb in its defintive form, it's a collective invention, he were only the coordinator of he project, second, those bombs were absolutely not the biggest in history, which came later (fusion Hydrogen bombs, Teller model)
Oldman is perfect in this scene. Conveys the smallness of Truman's imagination, as well as his pitiless contempt toward the lesser breeds, masterfully.
Truman is 100% correct here. Imagine being in Truman's position during the end of WW2. We have over 1 million soldiers that were about to invade Japan that was going to result in HEAVY casualties. We were probably going to lose at least half a million soldiers to win. However, the generals/scientist came up with the solution of using atomic bomb which WILL result in heavy CIVILIAN loss for the enemy. In (modern)war, all leaders try their best not to involve civilians, so this was the first time a leader targeted civilians, which made Japan scared shitless. Truman had to decide between losing around 1 million of OUR BOYS or around 400,000 civilian Japanese lives. He chose to save our boys, and kill the enemy. Truman did the right judgement from my perspective, but everyone is different.
I’m unsure about the legitimacy of this but I remember hearing that the Japanese where close to surrender anyway and that a mainland invasion wouldn’t have been necessary anyway. Again I’m unsure of how true that is.
Well this scene isn't about judging the decision of Truman. Is more about of him, the direct responsable, showing not remorse at all in comparison with Oppenheimer. Besides, US was already targeting civilians before the bombs. They do that in the Pacific and in Europe. But the power of the Atomic bomb can wipe a entire city in a instant. That is a godlike power. And of course US wouldn't allow that the soviets invade first Japan.
@@johnchoi4473 All he say is "I would do it again". And by 1953 he already forgotten Japan. The matters after WWII don't give time for anything. Besides, like Johnson, his popularity decrease with Corea.
they were the good guys, relatively speaking MILLIONS and i do mean millions of japanese were starving to death in the mainland, that doesn't include their scourge into china(20 million dead chinese at least) or the oceanic islands and unit 731, it also prevented a total or partial soviet occupation like what happened to vietnam and korea, the korean war killed like 3 million so just imagine a japanese version of that. so yes 200k people as of today for all the millions saved is the one to take
I'm 100% with Truman here. NO one care who invented the bullet, law cares who shot the gun.
bad comparison. atomic bomb is quite literally going to be the end of humanity. its completely different from upgrading from swords to bullets.
@@xondeez757 all the more reason for Truman to bear that Burden then
@@xondeez757At worst it will dramatically reduce the population of the world, but no it will not be the end of humanity. Drop us back to the stone Age, sure, but not our end.
@@xondeez757 You're mistaking something. The soviets independently developed their own bomb. The world has a clear idea at that time what the future will be after the discovery of atomic fission. Infact, compared to fusion bombs, fission bombs is vastly inferior and barely a doomsday scenario even if everyone have it.
@@Volkevism To be fair the Soviets developed their own bomb by having a spy directly within the inner circle of the Manhattan Project to greatly leap their own research ahead. Would the Soviets have gotten the Atomic Bomb? For sure, but without the spy it probably would've taken them a few more years to go through the same process that the US had.
2:38 I love how Gary Oldman made them all speechless at that moment
That fact that oldman can chrurchill and truman so well
Gary Oldman as President Truman is great here - the moment his pleasure at meeting Oppenheimer turns to fury is outstanding and brilliant! The President was right to be angry - HE, not Oppenheimer, was responsible, rightly or wrongly, to use the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Gotta love Truman
you are a psycho
Notice the girls talking non stop, while the boys Silent in focus
It’s a reaction dumbass. Why would I watch a reaction video if it’s just people either straight faces saying nothing? Just watch the goddamn movie
Noticed it at many videos of such gravity... And they wonder why they don't hold any position of responsibility 😂😂
@@thomasjohnson1885 don't simp
And?
My god who gives a shit
Truman made the decision that needed to be made. That decision that everyone asks for but no one dares to take responsibility for. Truman was a true patriot.
Many of the US generals saw it cruel and unnecessary funnily enough
@@somerandomguyonlineforsome7870 like who? MILLIONS and i do mean millions of japanese were starving to death in the mainland, that doesn't include their scourge into china(20 million dead chinese at least) or the oceanic islands and unit 731, it also prevented a total or partial soviet occupation like what happened to vietnam and korea, the korean war killed like 3 million so just imagine a japanese version of that. so yes 200k people as of today for all the millions saved is the one to take
@@somerandomguyonlineforsome7870 don't think it would've been as cruel as hundreds of thousands of American teenagers dying, and the complete and total annihilation of Japanese culture
Americans who want everyone to burn civilians (babies and women) to death are worse than the Nazis.😮
@username.exenotfound2943 It's really sad that you are so ignorant of history, especially your own history if you are American. Japan was already in a state of economic and military collapse and was about to withdraw. You can't justify dropping atomic bombs on 2 civilian populated areas and killing half a million Japanese. The only reason Truman did this was to prove his power to the world and to intimidate the Soviet Union. He chose to kill half a million civilians rather than a few more American soldiers. I hope you will research and speak more accurately.
A few people who opposed the atomic bomb and its dropping. The generals in particular told Truman personally and did not support it. They all had the same reasoning. That Japan was about to withdraw from the war, that civilians should not be killed, that it was morally unethical, and that America would be badly received in world public opinion.
William D. Leahy (Chief of Staff to the Commander in Chief), Dwight D. Eisenhower (Supreme Allied Commander in Europe), Herbert Hoover (31st President of the United States), Chester W. Nimitz (Commander in Chief of the Pacific Fleet), Curtis LeMay (Strategic Air Command Leader), Frank McCoy (General and Peace Conference Delegate), Leo Szilard (Physicist, Manhattan Project Scientist), Albert Einstein (Physicist and Humanitarian), Douglas MacArthur (Supreme Commander for the Allied Powers in Japan).
Next do the part where Oppenheimer wins and RDJ character goes ham
I would definitely watch a movie about Truman with Gary Oldman in the role
He can do anything, Bram Stoker's Dracula, Lee Harvey Oswald, the list goes on.
I hate it when people are watching a reaction video yet they talk through the whole thing
The one thing i didnt like was Truman insistence that the soviets would never have the bomb ,sounded entirely made up for the movie
I love how Truman sarcastically mentions Nagasaki when telling Oppenheimer about who gives a shit who built the bomb when couple scenes before Oppenheimer had to remind Truman of Nagasaki like he didn’t care or something when in fact he did but didn’t want to talk about it.
i need the end scene pls
Can you hear the music scene please
I am amazed how they showed the guy who made the biggest bomb in the history like the victim by the end of the movie.
Technically he is, considering all the bad thing the goverment did to him even thought thanks to his invention the war ended.
I was amazed how they showed the people who commited so many atrocities against not only their enemies, but even to their own people as the victims.
Remember, most of the film is told from his perspective.
it’s told from his perspective with alot of inner monologue. of course it may be leaning that way
First, Oppenheimer by himself invented technically at max 10% of the concept of the atomic fission of the A bomb in its defintive form, it's a collective invention, he were only the coordinator of he project, second, those bombs were absolutely not the biggest in history, which came later (fusion Hydrogen bombs, Teller model)
@@alexandreleveque8394 didn’t he know what it was gonna used for? Why y’all trying to defend this guy?
Had to watch this without sound the chatty Kathies ruined it with constant talking. Why is the one girl crying btw
Oldman is perfect in this scene. Conveys the smallness of Truman's imagination, as well as his pitiless contempt toward the lesser breeds, masterfully.
The talking during the scene killed it for me thumps down
Too many talk during a movie.
Please do oppenheimer ending
do a clip of Pacific rim 2013 clip about introducing Gypsy Danger
Truman is 100% correct here. Imagine being in Truman's position during the end of WW2. We have over 1 million soldiers that were about to invade Japan that was going to result in HEAVY casualties. We were probably going to lose at least half a million soldiers to win. However, the generals/scientist came up with the solution of using atomic bomb which WILL result in heavy CIVILIAN loss for the enemy. In (modern)war, all leaders try their best not to involve civilians, so this was the first time a leader targeted civilians, which made Japan scared shitless. Truman had to decide between losing around 1 million of OUR BOYS or around 400,000 civilian Japanese lives. He chose to save our boys, and kill the enemy. Truman did the right judgement from my perspective, but everyone is different.
I’m unsure about the legitimacy of this but I remember hearing that the Japanese where close to surrender anyway and that a mainland invasion wouldn’t have been necessary anyway. Again I’m unsure of how true that is.
No one is "correct" in war. Stop saying shit like he did the right thing what's right in this please geez people like you piss me off so much 🤬
Well this scene isn't about judging the decision of Truman. Is more about of him, the direct responsable, showing not remorse at all in comparison with Oppenheimer. Besides, US was already targeting civilians before the bombs. They do that in the Pacific and in Europe. But the power of the Atomic bomb can wipe a entire city in a instant. That is a godlike power. And of course US wouldn't allow that the soviets invade first Japan.
@@ridler_ns6558 ya but in reality...Truman was devastated by his decision. he didnt bother running again for his 2nd term and just retired.
@@johnchoi4473 All he say is "I would do it again". And by 1953 he already forgotten Japan. The matters after WWII don't give time for anything. Besides, like Johnson, his popularity decrease with Corea.
The Last of US HBO séries next please
😢😢😢
American people is so naive about their leaders. They truly believe to be the "good guys" of the story 😂
they were the good guys, relatively speaking MILLIONS and i do mean millions of japanese were starving to death in the mainland, that doesn't include their scourge into china(20 million dead chinese at least) or the oceanic islands and unit 731, it also prevented a total or partial soviet occupation like what happened to vietnam and korea, the korean war killed like 3 million so just imagine a japanese version of that. so yes 200k people as of today for all the millions saved is the one to take
What would be a better ending in this case to an American POV... Japan winning the war?
Your comment is stupid.
@@ericsierra-franco7802 nah its just typical anti american rhetoric bleh americans bad becuz bomb.... ignores the 20 million dead chinese though