@@blakkbaloon8092- What do you call someone coming in with momentum and being put in storylines/matches that gradually kill it over time? Buried is appropriate. LOL
@@kamfisher1714 - You don't consider being initially over starting momentum to build on with proper storylines/matches? It was a missed opportunity plain and simple.
@@ryandeffley7652 It’s not a missed opportunity because it was DDP in 2000 not 1997. Others were better, DDP not being in the main event did not cause any drastic effect on WWE’s business
DDP is the one laughing with his yoga empire raking in millions a year, rehabilitating his body instead off breaking it and at the same time helping others do the same. You’re the real people’s champ DDP thank you you deserve everything you have
I will forever respect DDP for how he's used his yoga business to help people like Jake Roberts. There really needs to be some kind of system or network for guys who were in the business and put so much of themselves into it but are struggling with their lives. Though I think more needs to be done about that, DDP really helped fill that role.
DDP is the last person who deserved the disrespect shown to him by WWE. A real legend - one of only nine WCW Triple Crown Champions - and a genuinely good human who goes out of his way to help those in need.
The worst thing about that, DDP had the chance to sit at home for more money, like Nash, Hogan and others, but decided to work the Invasion angle for less money and that was the Thank You WWE gave him.
@@shaynewest8757 That has nothing to do with being a mark you moron, because you can find similar examples that are not wrestling related. When Shane McMahon kayfabe bought WCW and it became clear that WCW wrestlers are invading WWF, fans thought that Hogan, Sting, Goldberg and others will appear soon on TV but it became clear that only WCW midcarders will appear. DDP and Booker T were the only stars and the reason why the Invasion PPV had at least a solid buyrate. It’s not like DDP came to WWE in 1998 and expected from Vince to give him everything, it was about saving the Invasion storyline from being a total failure right from the start. You obviously wasn’t around back then, otherwise you wouldn’t post that.
@@shaynewest8757I'm pretty sure the least you can expect from your employer when making them money while taking a cut on your own pocket is for them to not purposely bury you in your job. But hey, apparently we are all marks for not licking McMahon's balls like you are. 😂🤷♂️
I respect DDP as a human being more than the majority of "top card" wrestlers. Vince may have always been a shrewd businessman, but his pettiness and ego always destroyed anything good he did.
I remember that trainwreck of an angle. Everyone was like, "Why would DDP stalk Undertaker's wife when his own wife is WAY hotter?" Even Stevie Wonder could see that Vince McMahon did that to bury DDP.
To be fair they wrote it like DDP did it just to get Taker’s attention and wasn’t actually interested in Sara but it was still a dumb angle that didn’t fit his persona.
Agreed, DDP saying that he needed to make an impact in the business or make me famous was stupid when he already made an impact and was already famous to wrestling fans.
I blame Bruce Prichard for the stalker idea. He admitted it was trash but I don’t believe he ever thought it was good. They wanted to bury DDP, plain and simple.
I did listen to the follow up and he did say it wasn’t his intention to bury DDP. He and DDP were friends back in the day. But still……Bruce should’ve thought of something better
@@MrM-u3h I'll give them the benefit of the doubt when it comes to Austin Hogan. They wanted to book that match. But Austin refused because he thought their styles didn't mesh. But I won't defend the other 2. They scared Sting away when The Rock asked Booker T, who are you? And then when he came to WWE 14 years later, they didn't freaking book that match. And DDP turned into a jobber after a joke of a storyline. There was no good reason why Rock DDP didn't happen.
@@TheBmb2jnSting was a major mark for himself just like you guys are. He thought he was to good to lose to WWE stars & then decided to finally come when didn't have to compete against a Rock Austin Foley Batista Triple H HBK Kane Brock Lesnar Sting also screwed us out of those matches he's the one who didn't come, WWE didn't run him off.
@@TheBmb2jnthe rock trash talked EVERYONE. Sting would've known that if he watched WWE. Booker T even has video his channel talking about stings remedial decisions to not go to WWE. Sting only wanted linger in TNA places where he saw himself as the biggest star.
Holy shit you know whats totally nuts! I LITERALLY said the same thing about how they should have done a "People's Champ" feud YEARS AGO. Thats so crazy how DDP was thinking the exact same thing. I remember even when DDP came to WWF I kinda expected a people's champ feud and it never happened.
Diamond Dallas... poor guy.... just another victim of vince mcDOUCHE'S hair brained ideas degrading his character and worth in the wrestling world... he was pretty over before that BUT that is what vince mcDKBAG does best.... CRUSH talent that wasn't created by him, PERIOD....
In all honesty DDPs peak when he was absolutely white hot was 97 thru 98. He started cooling off going into 99 and beyond. He definitely was not on Rocks level by the time he got to wwf in 2001 and I have nothing but love for DDP. So even though this is a great story to hear, I get it why Vince didn’t budge on Page’s idea for him vs Rock. He wasn’t hot anymore coming out of WCW like he was 3-4 years earlier.
It's the writers job to make stars. Was dwayne Johnson on a main event level when he first started in wwe? Or did it take jr to create the rock character and the writers to give him cool lines to say?
@@RevZmanhe was referring to 1999, because Big Show had jumped ship by that point. He said WCW & WWF were in the same city, on tour. But by 1999 The Rock had surpassed ddp, so he's delusional.
@@kamfisher1714he buried them too, they were mid carders until like 4 years before each of them passed away respectively… I see u forgot about Dean Malenko and Terry Saturn… cuz they were buried first😂 ONLY talent from WCW vince didnt bury was Goldberg
The fact DDP's reveal got one of the biggest AE pops, yet in his podcast *_Bruce Prichard pretended the crowd didn't know who he was,_* tells you everything. WWF were in denial and *_Vince felt emasculated_* by their 83 weeks.
This is what I've been telling people but they keep saying that other WCW wrestlers didn't get buried. But where they're wrong is that those WCW wrestlers left WCW before the buy-out so they became WWF wrestlers whereas people like Booker T and DDP were WCW talent being merged with the then WWF roster.
What they did to WCW guys like DDP was wrong. I understand they were your competition & whatever, but dont take out on the employees what Eric Bischoff & the management tried to do, that was just wrong. & what's worst is they treated Eric Bischoff in WWF wayyyyy better than they treated some of the guys. I will always remember WCW DDP & the great times that were had there. Even when Sting came to WWE & had that wrestle mania match, when Triple H won, that was so F'd up it wasn't even funny. The guys from WCW deserved better, they were amazing talents & they were part of some of the greatest times in Wrestling History. the mid 90's up until they sold WCW was some of the best times I had watching wrestling. & to watch Vince McMahons ego get in the way of what could have been, was something I'll never get over. Its a shame Vince thinks more of himself than his wrestlers, cause without his wrestlers, he is nothing, without Austin, without Taker, Nash, Hall, Hogan, Bret, Shawn, & all the guys that made that era great, Vince would be on 5th avenue begging for change. I will remember the great times & pretend like that WWE bullcrap never even happened. Love ya DDP, thanks for the Self High Five, BANG!
The wcw guys that came in during the first wave, the invasion, were not good. That’s the bottom line. They sucked, that’s why they didn’t get over. If mcmahon could have developed those characters and made millions on them, trust me, he would have.
@@upandaway5238that's pretty much what I get from these smark mark comments they hate Vince more than they do Eric Bischoff who actually k!lled wcw off. They're mad WWE didn't shove their own talent out of the door for WCW guys,they want WWE to make same mistakes WCW did.
It simply the same as preventing a coup d'etat. Vince did not want the WCW stars to shine, otherwise they will have the politics for a real invasion angle. He bought them out to show the world they were not better
DDP pitched a great idea to Vince. However, DDP should of known that Vince won`t allow any catchphrases that were fan favorites in WCW to be used on his TV. In Vince`s mind, whatever DDP did in WCW didn`t mean much in his company.
There were lawsuits against WCW for racism and the deal that Vince made to purchase WCW's tapes may not have included the intellectual property of some of those catchphrases. He made sure that what he was buying wouldn't come with the liability of that lawsuit. It's the only reason I can think of where he would do this otherwise it would be like RC Cola purchasing Coke and then stop producing Coke when it's the more valuable brand of the two.
always see ddp's wwe career as something you probably don't want to remember. gave him a creepy stalker story, and then gave him the worst feud of his career. that taker feud was the most one sided affair I have ever seen. ddp had like 1 clean hit on the undertaker and thats when he hit him with the clothesline in their cage match, everything else is ddp getting manhandled.
What a story. Is storytelling just a skill you pick up when you've wrestled for decades because the legends all seem to possess it. The Undertaker told stories for 45 mins at his hall of fame induction and the crowd live and at home hung on every word.
it helps being asked often and repeating your stories and thinking abou them. When I started to apply for jobs it was just a here's stuff I did. At the end I had my bio and introduction crafted in a cohesive way that made it clearly more engaging for me and my listeners
The promos that could have been had between the Rock and DDP is something we all needed to see. They are both great on the mic and had a charisma that fans loved and they could have really played up that people's champ angle starting with making them feud over it and then later teamed them up as the people's champs to feud with whoever the bad guys were at that time as a tag team duo fighting say the NWO guys if the timing was right let whoever it was at that time.
I mean, if you wanna blame him lol. He’s just doing what Vince and creative wanted, at the end of day. And we all know Taker has always went with what they threw in front of him, given the many storylines and rivals that went sour.
The stalker angle was so stupid. They should've just made DDP the leader of the Alliance. I mean, they were short on top WCW guys anyway. DDP could've had a much more significant role, especially at that time
It's ludicrous that this guy's pushing 70, he looks early to mid 50s to me. He's gonna have that William Shatner longevity and be lucid and energetic into his 90s, mark my word
The Rock never once said that doesn't work for me and DDP never said it too. That is what makes them the peoples champion. Rock was over big and was #1 draw in the business what do you mean I got to put Austin over... Austin walked out because he had to put Brock over. Rock said no problem Vince I'm your man just here to entertain the people. DDP I need to drop the title to Sting on Nitro, no problem I love STING. Your going to win it back the same night.. WHAT? OKAY I MEAN WHATEVER DUDE.. I got you.. These guys are loved by fans because the business comes before them. On the Austin thing I don't blame Austin matter of fact it the right thing to do. YOUR STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN your not a jobber for Brock Lesnar.
@@MrM-u3h Austin didn’t want to work with Jeff Jarrett he didn’t want to work with Marc Mero and didn’t want to drop the title for Triple H and he was insecure and paranoid of The Rock’s rise to stardom and didn’t want him to take his spot.
Vince botched every single money match he could have made when it came to WCW guys in WWE. Simply out of hubris. But what did he care he had literally just bought his way into a monopoly.
No. Taker gets respect bc he has always handled business, professionally and respectfully. How can y’all blame him for what Vince and creative wanted? We all know he’s the type to roll with the punches and what he’s given. DDP should’ve never taken that trash offer of a storyline.
DDP and Sting were screwed over by whoever for whatever reasons.. the thing is though they didn’t deserve that disrespect, we didn’t deserve that disrespect and their legacy didn’t deserve that disrespect…and that’s only two from the other company I’ve mentioned, how many others were screwed over
Rock vs DDP during the Scorpion King era would been MONEY considering how massively over Rock was at the time. No doubt in my mind the match would’ve become a PPV classic but it would’ve set records just on the strength of the buildup. And Dally shining the Rock woulda put him over huge the same way it did Hogan after fighting Rock at Mania. Think of the post match POP the night after DDP did the job.
No wonder they hated him with a passion. Demonstrable ego and fantasy. I 100000000000000000000% understand Taker now. Hands down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Every time I see ppl rewrite history and blow Taker, I just reply "DDP". Go watch that debut promo from Page. He literally cut the promo of his life on the Undertaker, and maybe the best promo anyone's ever given to Taker PERIOD. As soon as DDP said "I stalked your wife just to get inside your head", that shouldve been it. A month later, Sara is pinning WCW champion Diamond Dallas Page in the middle of the ring. Dont tell me "The judge of wrestlers court" never buried anyone, was always selfless, etc. He was just McMahon's muscle. I'm not saying he's any worse than any other top guy, but he damn sure ain't a saint, and he damn sure ain't DDP, who's spent the last decade+ saving lives.
Taker was also said to have flushed René Dupré's French Flag in the toilet because he wouldn't drink with the boys when he was legally underaged in the U.S at the time. People working on a worker's visa have to be careful to respect the law because these can be revoked very quickly.
DDP should’ve been a main player in the invasion and should’ve been in the SS match. He was awesome even in the stalker angle the pop he got when he unmasked was sick especially when the crowd threw up the diamond
Then they did it to Sting as well when he finally made it there they kept saying what’s best for business was their motto, and they always screwed what was best for business like Cushing DDP, pushing sting, pushing so many great talents from WCW ruined good moments that we could have had
People’s champion vs People’s champion wrote itself and should have happened. Typical WWE they screwed up every WCW wrestler that came over during the Invasion or after that point. It’s a shame DDP didn’t get to be the same DDP from WCW. Don’t fix what ain’t broken.
If he hadn't buried the WCW talent, he could have signed up Sting who had several years left in his career. There could have been matches with HBK, Randy Orton, Edge, Taker, Brock Lesnar, Kurt Angle. The Invasion angle would have been a lot better with Sting and Goldberg involved.
@@vincesmith2499 That's true. DDP's League is a League ol' Dwayne can't even hope to reach or even touch, even with all the fame and movies. DDP rose above his stupid WWE storyline and made the world a better place for it. Dwayne is still stuck shilling storylines for WWE, despite trying to escape.
You know what's so funny is how happy everybody was to just see DDP in the WWF. Nobody cared about the stupid angle. The second people realize the angle people were like oh no DDP is being buried. That's the actual factual history of the angle
I'm with you there. Jumped back and forth to both shows. Was totally hardcore WWE since before the first Wrestlemania, but thought WCW had the better storylines during the Monday Night Wars.... up until the "Finger Poke of Doom" which essentially killed WCW in one night. But I digress (hehe)... there's one thing that made DDP stand above Rock for me (and I was a Day 1 Rock fan) The Rock called HIMSELF the People's Champion. DDP was the Champion of the PEOPLE. He didn't need a title to be relevant, and there's only two other wrestlers I can truly say that about.... Andre and Taker. So yeah, DDP is one of three as a wrestler, but as a human being, DDP stands above 'em all. BANG!!!
His debut was epic. He did really well as the stalker guy....and he did it for the WcW so it made sense to be the bad clever guy. To be honest his acting was brilliant. The POP was amazibg and he pulled it off. It was after the Invasion when he went down.
Was his treatment in WCW really THAT bad? I mean, yeah, he got his ass kicked by Taker, but he likely would have anyway. That was the Invasion angle in a nutshell - Make WCW look inferior. He seemed to be doing alright for himself in the midcard before his neck injury. He won the European Title, got a spot on the main card at Wrestlemania, etc.
he lost to undertakers x-wife at Raw by pin . so yes not Not only bad. It was disastrous . Imagine if Undertaker left for WCW and lost to DDP's wife on Nitro. You will criticize and attack DDP and Eric Bischoff forever
@@kamfisher1714 Even if he is not Undertaker, they have no right to make Undertaker's wife win over a former big star who was a world champion and faced big names like Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, Sting, Bret Hart, Randy Savage, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, and others. What happened was not just a loss. It was an insult. Don't defend Undertaker because you love him .What happened to him was great evidence that Undertaker was unprofessional, and of course Vince McMahon was unfair just because they dont like WCW. Look what they did to wrestlers like Booker T and Big Show. They were all buried from their first day
@@Aizenborgman Rick Steiner said in a shoot that he and some of the other guys in WCW were really adamant about in-ring psychology in each match and they didn't like DDP at first because they thought he was a spot monkey. So DDP went from picking spots to meticulously planning every match like a short story (Macho Man was NOTORIOUS for this). That didn’t roll in WWE. DDP did far worse in your precious WCW.
The stalker gimmick was complete bs but DDP thinking a pople's vs people's champion feud with The Rock was money in 2001 is just beyond delusional. DDP was hot in 1997/98 not in 2001. He was 16 years older than the Rock who was already on the jump to Hollywood and in his peak. Nobody saw them eye to eye in 2001. The Rock faced Austin and Hulk Hogan between 1999 and 2003 in 4 Mania matches. How does DDP even fit in that league?
DDP was still main event level in 2001, And in the Invasion he and Booker T were the two only main event level guys. Why ruin one of them especially if you only have two?
WCW fans will complain about it but only a fool would push WCW's old 2nd tier acts on the same level as a Rock especially when they ripped WCW's young talent years earlier and they were ready to step to the plate.
I disagree. The goal is to make money and judging on the mega pop DDP got the moment he took off that mask, the people seen him as a star despite drinking the WWF propaganda. Now he didn't have to go over The Rock, just rubbing shoulders would've put DDP over huge. They would've made money with a Rock vs DDP feud.
@@blakkbaloon8092 I see that triggered you lol. This has nothing to do with AEW. I'm just saying the WWF at the time conditioned it's viewers that WCW is 2nd rate. Even till this day WCW is considered a joke because of all the WWE DVDs telling you how much it sucked when that just wasn't the case until those last 2 years. Either way the WWF won and rewrote history, that's just a fact. DDP however was still a huge star for them and they could've made money with him
Who is to blame for holding back DDP in WWE? Let us know in the comments below!
I dunno but it sucked 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
He was just NOT THAT GOOD
He was 40 years old. I came name 10 wrestlers who were better at that time.
@@Davian_Thulehe was great in wcw
@@kamfisher1714who cares if he was 40 !
The Raven character would have suited the stalker gimmick a lot better.
Brilliant
Wow yeah that's so true
Raven was amazing. Scot Levy is a god damn genius.
Yup and he would've found way to run with it. Sadly they didn't respect him enough
That’s a great idea!!
If you watch DDP's WWF debut, he gets a MASSIVE pop. Yet, for some reason, they didn't pick up on that and buried DDP overall.
“Buried” smark talk
@@blakkbaloon8092- What do you call someone coming in with momentum and being put in storylines/matches that gradually kill it over time? Buried is appropriate. LOL
@@ryandeffley7652 So having one big pop makes you have momentum? How’s that going for Adam Copeland ?
@@kamfisher1714 - You don't consider being initially over starting momentum to build on with proper storylines/matches?
It was a missed opportunity plain and simple.
@@ryandeffley7652 It’s not a missed opportunity because it was DDP in 2000 not 1997. Others were better, DDP not being in the main event did not cause any drastic effect on WWE’s business
DDP is the one laughing with his yoga empire raking in millions a year, rehabilitating his body instead off breaking it and at the same time helping others do the same. You’re the real people’s champ DDP thank you you deserve everything you have
I will forever respect DDP for how he's used his yoga business to help people like Jake Roberts. There really needs to be some kind of system or network for guys who were in the business and put so much of themselves into it but are struggling with their lives. Though I think more needs to be done about that, DDP really helped fill that role.
Big facts! Meanwhile the wrestling business continues to kill prime athletes in their 30's and 40's.
DDP is the ONE true People's Champion. The Rock is only The Final Boss (that still fails to overcome The Locker Room Boss).
DDP is the last person who deserved the disrespect shown to him by WWE. A real legend - one of only nine WCW Triple Crown Champions - and a genuinely good human who goes out of his way to help those in need.
The worst thing about that, DDP had the chance to sit at home for more money, like Nash, Hogan and others, but decided to work the Invasion angle for less money and that was the Thank You WWE gave him.
@@dualshock3462then he should have stayed home and took the money. God you people are marks , Vince didn't owe him anything.
@@shaynewest8757 That has nothing to do with being a mark you moron, because you can find similar examples that are not wrestling related. When Shane McMahon kayfabe bought WCW and it became clear that WCW wrestlers are invading WWF, fans thought that Hogan, Sting, Goldberg and others will appear soon on TV but it became clear that only WCW midcarders will appear. DDP and Booker T were the only stars and the reason why the Invasion PPV had at least a solid buyrate. It’s not like DDP came to WWE in 1998 and expected from Vince to give him everything, it was about saving the Invasion storyline from being a total failure right from the start. You obviously wasn’t around back then, otherwise you wouldn’t post that.
@@shaynewest8757I'm pretty sure the least you can expect from your employer when making them money while taking a cut on your own pocket is for them to not purposely bury you in your job. But hey, apparently we are all marks for not licking McMahon's balls like you are. 😂🤷♂️
@@shaynewest8757He was over in WCW, but not in WWF/E
The way that WWE misused DDP is heartbreaking... Big Van Vader too.
They didn't care how much money they lost, they were going to bury the WCW stars out of spite
Vader was AWFUL in WWE. Try again.
@@vincesmith2499OK. Scott Steiner, Buff Bagwell, Sting
@@ChewyChicken589 Steiner was awful. Buff was awful and a cancer backstage. Sting was 56. Try again.
And DDP ticked off Taker with his arrogance. That's why he got "buried."
I respect DDP as a human being more than the majority of "top card" wrestlers. Vince may have always been a shrewd businessman, but his pettiness and ego always destroyed anything good he did.
Others were better. Pretty simple.
@@kamfisher1714 These guys didn’t watch WCW in 2000 of 2001 DDP was buried before WWE
Better performers, athletes, entertainers? Sure, but not better human beings.@@kamfisher1714
also vince sexually harassed and bribed women, so there's that
@@GHMYahooka Just like Darby allin ?
I remember that trainwreck of an angle. Everyone was like, "Why would DDP stalk Undertaker's wife when his own wife is WAY hotter?" Even Stevie Wonder could see that Vince McMahon did that to bury DDP.
To be fair they wrote it like DDP did it just to get Taker’s attention and wasn’t actually interested in Sara but it was still a dumb angle that didn’t fit his persona.
Agreed, DDP saying that he needed to make an impact in the business or make me famous was stupid when he already made an impact and was already famous to wrestling fans.
@@VictorFerri-g7e true if you go back and read the lines on paper it buries him, like Rock telling Booker T “who the hell are you”.
not everyone knew who ddp was with
@@conor-_Ccome on a lot of WWF fans used to switch back and forth between WCW and WWF, Kimberly was a hottie lol.
I was just thinking about a People's Champion vs. People's Champion feud. Now I need the alternate universe where DDP makes that entrance!
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@@carter3369 DDP almost helped WCW put WWE out of business in 1996 and 1997.
they didn't book him right
@@71956AV Yeah, new generation wwe was bad but Attitude Era Guys Austin,Rock,HHH,DX,Mankind,Undertaker,Kane saved WWF
this man is a gem
Say what you want about Hogan, but he ALWAYS knew when to say "That doesn't work for me brother".
I swear if Hogan wasn't a compulsive liar... he'd be celebrated way more in Wrestling circles!!
Truth. And you should stand your ground. Hogan and DDP is right, leave the table if it isn't feels right.
I blame Bruce Prichard for the stalker idea. He admitted it was trash but I don’t believe he ever thought it was good. They wanted to bury DDP, plain and simple.
I did listen to the follow up and he did say it wasn’t his intention to bury DDP. He and DDP were friends back in the day. But still……Bruce should’ve thought of something better
Undertaker show he's Vince's bitch. Undertaker buried WCW talent, and also Bray Wyatt.
@@GamingSaturnMoonManBoy
What else is he going to say so that
DDP won’t Diamond Cut Brother Love?
Bruce sucks as a writer, pitches BS & blames the talent when it doesn’t get over. He’s also always against the boys unless they’re from Texas.
DDP is such an amazing guy. Straight shooter no bs.
Go listen to his interview on Lebtard podcast. Dude went nuts. It was great
Not booking Rock vs. DDP, Peoples Champion vs. Peoples Champion, is the most unforgivable sin of the Invasion Angle.
Not doing Austin/Hogan and Sting/Taker as well.
@@MrM-u3h I'll give them the benefit of the doubt when it comes to Austin Hogan. They wanted to book that match. But Austin refused because he thought their styles didn't mesh.
But I won't defend the other 2. They scared Sting away when The Rock asked Booker T, who are you? And then when he came to WWE 14 years later, they didn't freaking book that match.
And DDP turned into a jobber after a joke of a storyline. There was no good reason why Rock DDP didn't happen.
@@TheBmb2jnSting was a major mark for himself just like you guys are.
He thought he was to good to lose to WWE stars & then decided to finally come when didn't have to compete against a
Rock
Austin
Foley
Batista
Triple H
HBK
Kane
Brock Lesnar
Sting also screwed us out of those matches he's the one who didn't come, WWE didn't run him off.
@@TheBmb2jnthe rock trash talked EVERYONE. Sting would've known that if he watched WWE.
Booker T even has video his channel talking about stings remedial decisions to not go to WWE.
Sting only wanted linger in TNA places where he saw himself as the biggest star.
@@MrM-u3hthey actually wanted an Austin/Hogan Austin didn’t want it which they both regret now.
DDP is a true legend. He has help so many ex wrestler and wrestler.
DDP idea would have been way better than what they ended up doing
They were just out to bury WCW stars out of spite
They couldn't even let it go with Sting how many years later?
"UNDERTAKER, LIKE THE DIAMOND CUTTER, YOU NEVER SAW IT COMING" -best line in a WWE debut
In the film Black Adam starring the Rock, the people of Kandhar were doing the sign of the Diamond Cutter. They wanted the Real People's Champ.
Looool okay mate
I could listen to DDP for hours. He knows how to tell a story so well.
Such a shame we never got that tailor made Rock vs DDP feud.
Gah damn. DDP is such an incredible storyteller.
Holy shit you know whats totally nuts! I LITERALLY said the same thing about how they should have done a "People's Champ" feud YEARS AGO. Thats so crazy how DDP was thinking the exact same thing. I remember even when DDP came to WWF I kinda expected a people's champ feud and it never happened.
Diamond Stud could've jumped in for the dq
I always wanted that angle, 'cos DDP was called "The People's Champion" whereas the Rock called himself that.
What an amazing man & career. DDP is really an amazing example of how you can do anything in life if you put your ♥️ & 🧠 in it 👏
Not really. He didnt convince vince
Diamond Dallas... poor guy.... just another victim of vince mcDOUCHE'S hair brained ideas degrading his character and worth in the wrestling world... he was pretty over before that BUT that is what vince mcDKBAG does best.... CRUSH talent that wasn't created by him, PERIOD....
To this day I remember being so excited to see DDP, but incredibly confused as to why they made him the stalker, and he still got a huge pop
DDP is such a good human. Seems like a legend
DDP IS SO AMAZING RESPECT 🧡🧡
Ahh DDP was one of my favourites ❤
In all honesty DDPs peak when he was absolutely white hot was 97 thru 98. He started cooling off going into 99 and beyond. He definitely was not on Rocks level by the time he got to wwf in 2001 and I have nothing but love for DDP. So even though this is a great story to hear, I get it why Vince didn’t budge on Page’s idea for him vs Rock. He wasn’t hot anymore coming out of WCW like he was 3-4 years earlier.
It's the writers job to make stars. Was dwayne Johnson on a main event level when he first started in wwe? Or did it take jr to create the rock character and the writers to give him cool lines to say?
Yeah I had to pause the video when he suggested he was bigger than The Rock in 2001 lol
@@RevZmanhe was referring to 1999, because Big Show had jumped ship by that point. He said WCW & WWF were in the same city, on tour.
But by 1999 The Rock had surpassed ddp, so he's delusional.
WWE Emperor Vince McMahon just wanted to bury WCW talent like DDP and Sting
Yeah they should have brought nailz with them. Kept vince in line.
Funny how you don’t talk about Benoit or Guerrero because it doesn’t fit your narrative
Just like Aew buried Jeff Hardy, Hobbs, Andrade.
@@kamfisher1714he buried them too, they were mid carders until like 4 years before each of them passed away respectively… I see u forgot about Dean Malenko and Terry Saturn… cuz they were buried first😂 ONLY talent from WCW vince didnt bury was Goldberg
@@blizzavelliWrong, clearly you didn’t watch WWE 2000-2005. Benoit was in the main event scene until his neck injury in 2002
DDP was one on the greatest & most underrated WCW Heavyweight Champions
DDP just does great stuff for people. DDP still looks like DDP. He's a good guy.
The fact DDP's reveal got one of the biggest AE pops, yet in his podcast *_Bruce Prichard pretended the crowd didn't know who he was,_* tells you everything.
WWF were in denial and *_Vince felt emasculated_* by their 83 weeks.
This is what I've been telling people but they keep saying that other WCW wrestlers didn't get buried. But where they're wrong is that those WCW wrestlers left WCW before the buy-out so they became WWF wrestlers whereas people like Booker T and DDP were WCW talent being merged with the then WWF roster.
What they did to WCW guys like DDP was wrong. I understand they were your competition & whatever, but dont take out on the employees what Eric Bischoff & the management tried to do, that was just wrong. & what's worst is they treated Eric Bischoff in WWF wayyyyy better than they treated some of the guys. I will always remember WCW DDP & the great times that were had there. Even when Sting came to WWE & had that wrestle mania match, when Triple H won, that was so F'd up it wasn't even funny. The guys from WCW deserved better, they were amazing talents & they were part of some of the greatest times in Wrestling History. the mid 90's up until they sold WCW was some of the best times I had watching wrestling. & to watch Vince McMahons ego get in the way of what could have been, was something I'll never get over. Its a shame Vince thinks more of himself than his wrestlers, cause without his wrestlers, he is nothing, without Austin, without Taker, Nash, Hall, Hogan, Bret, Shawn, & all the guys that made that era great, Vince would be on 5th avenue begging for change. I will remember the great times & pretend like that WWE bullcrap never even happened. Love ya DDP, thanks for the Self High Five, BANG!
So WWE talent couldn’t win at all?
The wcw guys that came in during the first wave, the invasion, were not good. That’s the bottom line. They sucked, that’s why they didn’t get over. If mcmahon could have developed those characters and made millions on them, trust me, he would have.
@@upandaway5238that's pretty much what I get from these smark mark comments they hate Vince more than they do Eric Bischoff who actually k!lled wcw off.
They're mad WWE didn't shove their own talent out of the door for WCW guys,they want WWE to make same mistakes WCW did.
It simply the same as preventing a coup d'etat. Vince did not want the WCW stars to shine, otherwise they will have the politics for a real invasion angle. He bought them out to show the world they were not better
DDP pitched a great idea to Vince. However, DDP should of known that Vince won`t allow any catchphrases that were fan favorites in WCW to be used on his TV. In Vince`s mind, whatever DDP did in WCW didn`t mean much in his company.
There were lawsuits against WCW for racism and the deal that Vince made to purchase WCW's tapes may not have included the intellectual property of some of those catchphrases. He made sure that what he was buying wouldn't come with the liability of that lawsuit. It's the only reason I can think of where he would do this otherwise it would be like RC Cola purchasing Coke and then stop producing Coke when it's the more valuable brand of the two.
5 time sucka!!!!!
I think DDP assumed that a man as successful as Vince would prioritize business over petty self-masturbation.
DDP playing the stalker angle didnt make any sense for that character
DDP was my favorite back then in WCW
always see ddp's wwe career as something you probably don't want to remember. gave him a creepy stalker story, and then gave him the worst feud of his career. that taker feud was the most one sided affair I have ever seen. ddp had like 1 clean hit on the undertaker and thats when he hit him with the clothesline in their cage match, everything else is ddp getting manhandled.
I agree i feel like DDp should of fought back or at least have undertaker a challenge
What a story. Is storytelling just a skill you pick up when you've wrestled for decades because the legends all seem to possess it. The Undertaker told stories for 45 mins at his hall of fame induction and the crowd live and at home hung on every word.
it helps being asked often and repeating your stories and thinking abou them. When I started to apply for jobs it was just a here's stuff I did. At the end I had my bio and introduction crafted in a cohesive way that made it clearly more engaging for me and my listeners
DDP: "Hey Goku who is the real super saiyan " BANG 💥💥💥
Peoples champ v people champ would’ve been a fantastic angle
DDP is the definition of turning lemons into lemonade
Back then, the Rock was the People's Champ to me. But these days? DDP is the Champion the People deserve and need!
Cool the rock will always be the people's champ wrestling or acting
Rock is Oprah’s Champ of the Week
Peoples champ vs People champ would’ve been legendary!
The promos that could have been had between the Rock and DDP is something we all needed to see. They are both great on the mic and had a charisma that fans loved and they could have really played up that people's champ angle starting with making them feud over it and then later teamed them up as the people's champs to feud with whoever the bad guys were at that time as a tag team duo fighting say the NWO guys if the timing was right let whoever it was at that time.
Love Taker he's arguably the GOAT but like Solomonster said he doesnt get enough credit for burrying DDP..
Undertaker is supposed to bury people
@@J.D.1. lol
I mean, if you wanna blame him lol. He’s just doing what Vince and creative wanted, at the end of day. And we all know Taker has always went with what they threw in front of him, given the many storylines and rivals that went sour.
At end the day, the only one who deserves credit for burying established wcw stars is Vince McMahon, because look how he treated Sting years later
@@sergiolangston5540Sting was 56.
The stalker angle was so stupid. They should've just made DDP the leader of the Alliance. I mean, they were short on top WCW guys anyway. DDP could've had a much more significant role, especially at that time
We all wanted that angle Diamond. We all did.
DDP is the real winner! He truly is. Such an amazing outlook - turning rejection into positive
It's ludicrous that this guy's pushing 70, he looks early to mid 50s to me. He's gonna have that William Shatner longevity and be lucid and energetic into his 90s, mark my word
WCW is and will always be the best hands down.
The Rock never once said that doesn't work for me and DDP never said it too. That is what makes them the peoples champion. Rock was over big and was #1 draw in the business what do you mean I got to put Austin over... Austin walked out because he had to put Brock over. Rock said no problem Vince I'm your man just here to entertain the people. DDP I need to drop the title to Sting on Nitro, no problem I love STING. Your going to win it back the same night.. WHAT? OKAY I MEAN WHATEVER DUDE.. I got you.. These guys are loved by fans because the business comes before them. On the Austin thing I don't blame Austin matter of fact it the right thing to do. YOUR STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN your not a jobber for Brock Lesnar.
Austin had no problem putting Brock over. He just wanted to do it on PPV, especially because they weren't competing with Nitro anymore.
@@MrM-u3h Austin didn’t want to work with Jeff Jarrett he didn’t want to work with Marc Mero and didn’t want to drop the title for Triple H and he was insecure and paranoid of The Rock’s rise to stardom and didn’t want him to take his spot.
@chuckbuskeeAustin was one the props to help raise the rock anyway.
@chuckbuskee also he buried Kane’s momentum when he beat him for the WWF title just one night after dropping it to him.
That whole debut he describes that he wanted to have and The Rock vs DDP sounded a whole lot of a way better idea than what we wound up getting.
Dallas got put 6 feet under. Also he had to pay for a shag in storyline with the help of The Godfather. When he reality he had a hot wife
Vince botched every single money match he could have made when it came to WCW guys in WWE. Simply out of hubris. But what did he care he had literally just bought his way into a monopoly.
So true and yet the guy gets praised for his genius in the biz of characters and "making stars" outta people smh 🤷🏽♂️
@@soulofanerd9364Yet you hype up Tony khan lol
What is Vince supposed to do with Shawn stasiak?
@@bloodinbloodout I said money match bish. Can you not read?
@@ABD-pc3jf You’re not a booker. You wouldn’t handle all those ego’s boy.
People give undertaker give too much credit because he didn't make guys look good if he didn't want to. Ddp, kronik, etc.
Brian Adams was a friend of Taker's, he didn't bury Kronik. Kronik just couldn't work.
No. Taker gets respect bc he has always handled business, professionally and respectfully. How can y’all blame him for what Vince and creative wanted? We all know he’s the type to roll with the punches and what he’s given. DDP should’ve never taken that trash offer of a storyline.
@@beenontopdraftpick taker admitted he didn't try to have good matches with em because they were WCW guys
@@hollywood21639Please link, source.
@@hollywood21639 My guy, Taker's matches with Booker and Rvd are awesome. Lay receipts or you're lying.
How come you guys didn’t upload the full interview?
yes, remember "The Ring Bearer" Steve Austin in early 1996 WWF?
No, because it never happened.
I could see this as a comedy starring Rob Schneider.
I think you mean the "Ring Master."
I was wondering if anyone else noticed that 😂😂😂. I'm just imagining Steve Austin as the Lord of the Rings now
I love the Ring Bearer!
Wish and Rock DDP would've had a feud
DDP and Sting were screwed over by whoever for whatever reasons.. the thing is though they didn’t deserve that disrespect, we didn’t deserve that disrespect and their legacy didn’t deserve that disrespect…and that’s only two from the other company I’ve mentioned, how many others were screwed over
Rock vs DDP during the Scorpion King era would been MONEY considering how massively over Rock was at the time. No doubt in my mind the match would’ve become a PPV classic but it would’ve set records just on the strength of the buildup. And Dally shining the Rock woulda put him over huge the same way it did Hogan after fighting Rock at Mania. Think of the post match POP the night after DDP did the job.
Bro this angle from DDP woukd have been GOLD. Then the rock returns 😳. Jesus... Man FUCK VINCE
True champion of the people
Is he though?
@@pinkribbonskies5731 yeah. Thanks for asking.
Loved you in Ready to Rumble!!!!
DDP was great.
No wonder they hated him with a passion. Demonstrable ego and fantasy. I 100000000000000000000% understand Taker now. Hands down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
right, like Rock was already on top at this point and hes acting like he was still on the come up, the whole idea is just dumb.
@@joshuag1795 Yep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Vince was never gonna book Rock v DDP as he entered the company.
He had Jericho come in right away with the rock in a promo, and some matches but yeah that's before the war was over.
Good Story DDP , Great Advice..!
Unfortunately back then Vince was more concerned about destroying legacies of WCW/ECW guys than he was in creating compelling storylines.
Rock vs DDP would've been amazing just from the promos alone
It’s sad how DDP got buried in WWE
It’s sad how you guys are still crying about it
@@bloodinbloodout it’s a free country and I can say what I want keep scrolling if you got a problem!
@@jarrettholden6700 Keep crying man child
DDP is such an amazing guy
Every time I see ppl rewrite history and blow Taker, I just reply "DDP".
Go watch that debut promo from Page. He literally cut the promo of his life on the Undertaker, and maybe the best promo anyone's ever given to Taker PERIOD. As soon as DDP said "I stalked your wife just to get inside your head", that shouldve been it.
A month later, Sara is pinning WCW champion Diamond Dallas Page in the middle of the ring.
Dont tell me "The judge of wrestlers court" never buried anyone, was always selfless, etc. He was just McMahon's muscle. I'm not saying he's any worse than any other top guy, but he damn sure ain't a saint, and he damn sure ain't DDP, who's spent the last decade+ saving lives.
Taker was also said to have flushed René Dupré's French Flag in the toilet because he wouldn't drink with the boys when he was legally underaged in the U.S at the time. People working on a worker's visa have to be careful to respect the law because these can be revoked very quickly.
@@HepCatJack that's crazy. Did Rene tell that story on his podcast?
@@NoName-cz3wnyes it's on one of his videos.
DDP should’ve been a main player in the invasion and should’ve been in the SS match. He was awesome even in the stalker angle the pop he got when he unmasked was sick especially when the crowd threw up the diamond
Vince really wanted to bury every WCW wrestler 1by1... only one who survived is Rey Mysterio jr.
Eddie, Jericho ,Book, Beniot.
Kind of buried Mysterio by putting the mask back on him to sell more toys
@@The80sWolf_rey himself said he never wanted to lose the mask in the first place.
DDP's idea was so much better.
I believe Vince hired them just to bury them.
Well I think the WCW guys had a choice to wrestle in WWE. Either that or just stay home and get paid anyway until that WCW contract expires
Then they did it to Sting as well when he finally made it there they kept saying what’s best for business was their motto, and they always screwed what was best for business like Cushing DDP, pushing sting, pushing so many great talents from WCW ruined good moments that we could have had
DDP should have said no, it was obvious this stalker angle was garbage
People’s champion vs People’s champion wrote itself and should have happened. Typical WWE they screwed up every WCW wrestler that came over during the Invasion or after that point. It’s a shame DDP didn’t get to be the same DDP from WCW. Don’t fix what ain’t broken.
If he hadn't buried the WCW talent, he could have signed up Sting who had several years left in his career. There could have been matches with HBK, Randy Orton, Edge, Taker, Brock Lesnar, Kurt Angle. The Invasion angle would have been a lot better with Sting and Goldberg involved.
Nope. DDP ain't in Rock's league.
@@vincesmith2499 That's true. DDP's League is a League ol' Dwayne can't even hope to reach or even touch, even with all the fame and movies. DDP rose above his stupid WWE storyline and made the world a better place for it. Dwayne is still stuck shilling storylines for WWE, despite trying to escape.
@@dethaddr BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Good one.
@@vincesmith2499 I'll use one from another wrestler here.... It's true. It's DAMN true!
You know what's so funny is how happy everybody was to just see DDP in the WWF. Nobody cared about the stupid angle. The second people realize the angle people were like oh no DDP is being buried. That's the actual factual history of the angle
Rock vs Page could have been a good rivalry
They did DDP and Sting so dirty..
I liked DDP better than the rock as a people’s champ
Stop being a hater lol
I'm with you there. Jumped back and forth to both shows. Was totally hardcore WWE since before the first Wrestlemania, but thought WCW had the better storylines during the Monday Night Wars.... up until the "Finger Poke of Doom" which essentially killed WCW in one night. But I digress (hehe)... there's one thing that made DDP stand above Rock for me (and I was a Day 1 Rock fan) The Rock called HIMSELF the People's Champion. DDP was the Champion of the PEOPLE. He didn't need a title to be relevant, and there's only two other wrestlers I can truly say that about.... Andre and Taker.
So yeah, DDP is one of three as a wrestler, but as a human being, DDP stands above 'em all. BANG!!!
Can we up the audio on these videos
Like "garethcullen9604" said, Raven wouldn't fit that stalker ginmick so well. Im just imagining how foul that shit could've been lol 😅
His debut was epic. He did really well as the stalker guy....and he did it for the WcW so it made sense to be the bad clever guy. To be honest his acting was brilliant. The POP was amazibg and he pulled it off. It was after the Invasion when he went down.
All the people in the comments saying the word “buried” ok then. Tony khan has “buried” talent.
Watch how they say “no” “but”
Which main event level wrestler did Tony Khan script to get pinned by another wrestlers wife?
@@BasillikosHow about burying your biggest draw ? That’s even better
Who did Khan bury? Big Swole???
@@The80sWolf_ Big swole, Andrade, Brian Pillman Jr, Matt Hardy, Jeff Hardy, Ricky starks.
DDP always my number 1 GOAT
Honestly...it was a memorable storyline for the time. Had seen nothing like that
No, it wasn't 😂😂😂
Um seriously.... Katie Vick? yeah really, hadn't seen any sort of perverse storyline from the Vinster? What kind of Kool-Aid, really man.
What a performer
Was his treatment in WCW really THAT bad? I mean, yeah, he got his ass kicked by Taker, but he likely would have anyway. That was the Invasion angle in a nutshell - Make WCW look inferior. He seemed to be doing alright for himself in the midcard before his neck injury. He won the European Title, got a spot on the main card at Wrestlemania, etc.
he lost to undertakers x-wife at Raw by pin . so yes not Not only bad. It was disastrous . Imagine if Undertaker left for WCW and lost to DDP's wife on Nitro. You will criticize and attack DDP and Eric Bischoff forever
@@Aizenborgman DDP is not the undertaker. DDP was already “buried” in WCW from 2000-2001. He did far worse.
@@kamfisher1714 Even if he is not Undertaker, they have no right to make Undertaker's wife win over a former big star who was a world champion and faced big names like Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, Sting, Bret Hart, Randy Savage, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, and others. What happened was not just a loss. It was an insult. Don't defend Undertaker because you love him .What happened to him was great evidence that Undertaker was unprofessional, and of course Vince McMahon was unfair just because they dont like WCW. Look what they did to wrestlers like Booker T and Big Show. They were all buried from their first day
@@Aizenborgman Rick Steiner said in a shoot that he and some of the other guys in WCW were really adamant about in-ring psychology in each match and they didn't like DDP at first because they thought he was a spot monkey. So DDP went from picking spots to meticulously planning every match like a short story (Macho Man was NOTORIOUS for this). That didn’t roll in WWE. DDP did far worse in your precious WCW.
@@AizenborgmanSpoken like a true smark. So everyone has to win? Every WCW guy had to beat a WWE guy?
DDP is the only wrestler that earned our respect after the wrestling business. He doesn’t even seem like a wrestler anymore.
That's because he's a better Human. Anyone tied to McMahon for too long doesn't even know what that is anymore.
The stalker gimmick was complete bs but DDP thinking a pople's vs people's champion feud with The Rock was money in 2001 is just beyond delusional. DDP was hot in 1997/98 not in 2001. He was 16 years older than the Rock who was already on the jump to Hollywood and in his peak. Nobody saw them eye to eye in 2001. The Rock faced Austin and Hulk Hogan between 1999 and 2003 in 4 Mania matches. How does DDP even fit in that league?
F*cking hell! A wrestling fan that understands objective reality.
DDP was still main event level in 2001, And in the Invasion he and Booker T were the two only main event level guys. Why ruin one of them especially if you only have two?
@@DBecks09 I never understood why DDP wasn't in the 5 vs 5 Alliance vs WWF match at Survivor Series 2001.
What a solid man.
WWF fans weren't necessarily WCW fans. Don't really think having DDP come is how he was in WCW would have been any better 🤷♂️
Watch the clip where ddp debuts in wwf and listen to the reaction
We are wrestling fans
The Rock was already way bigger than DDP in 99, not even comparable
WCW fans will complain about it but only a fool would push WCW's old 2nd tier acts on the same level as a Rock especially when they ripped WCW's young talent years earlier and they were ready to step to the plate.
I disagree. The goal is to make money and judging on the mega pop DDP got the moment he took off that mask, the people seen him as a star despite drinking the WWF propaganda. Now he didn't have to go over The Rock, just rubbing shoulders would've put DDP over huge. They would've made money with a Rock vs DDP feud.
@@ChrisAmador-jv6tg”WWE propaganda” here we go with the buzzwords. Most likely coming from an Aew fan.
We're not interested in listening to marks so your post is not wanted. The massive in loss in viewership shows that you're wrong.
@@blakkbaloon8092Nah, I'm not an AEW fan, I'm not a fan of wrestling at all nowadays. But it is WWE propaganda, if that hurts your feelings so what.
@@blakkbaloon8092 I see that triggered you lol. This has nothing to do with AEW. I'm just saying the WWF at the time conditioned it's viewers that WCW is 2nd rate. Even till this day WCW is considered a joke because of all the WWE DVDs telling you how much it sucked when that just wasn't the case until those last 2 years. Either way the WWF won and rewrote history, that's just a fact. DDP however was still a huge star for them and they could've made money with him
Love this guy