'𝟎𝟑 𝐑𝐎𝐍𝐍𝐈𝐄 and '𝟗𝟑 𝐃𝐎𝐑𝐈𝐀𝐍 - ULTIMATE Comparison
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- Ronnie Coleman vs Dorian Yates. Ronnie Coleman Mr. Olympia 2003 vs Dorian Yates Mr. Olympia 1993. Kingslayer episode 2. Greatest bodybuilder of all time.
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Episode 01: Jay Cutler Mr. Olympia 2009: • 𝟐𝟎𝟎𝟗 JAY Cutler on the...
Episode 02: Dorian Yates Mr. Olympia 1993: • '𝟎𝟑 𝐑𝐎𝐍𝐍𝐈𝐄 and '𝟗𝟑 𝐃𝐎𝐑...
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When I get 30K subs I will do: Dorian vs Ronnie vs Jay vs Phil on the same stage, video footage!
Its a great matchup you made here, but Dorian is scaled too small, you can tell by how much smaller his head is than Ronnie.
Bro it is honestly a privilege to get to watch such high quality content for free. Please never stop doing your thing.
Man is spoiling us harder than Draco Malfoy. Thank you again supersetman!
Side note: i do wish there was some good video footage of Dorian when he did those infamous black and white photos where his size would actually stand up to Ronnie, whilst still being conditioned enough to step on stage and win pretty much any show
You're welcome!
And yes, I wish that footage existed...
Good call, I think Dorian would win with those photos
@@Supersetman It does exist....It's colour not black and white but it is on YT..
ua-cam.com/video/SBlwCFrXaK8/v-deo.html
@stevegritty Brilliant. This version against Colman would be the best.
You put Ronnie way ahead. Ronnie has a smaller head than Dorian, in your footage it is bigger.
Yeah the scaling is off
Bro there a interview with ramy he said Phil and Ron in fls its equal 😂😂how he said that when Phil is narrow , Ron had more v taper and wider last , and in sc he said Ron doesn’t has a hamstring from the side and he give just two poses to Ron from 8 poses
he made Yates look 5'9 lol, they were equal height and Yates had more true natural width (across the clavicles).
He's been doing this for years and refuses to change it no matter how many comments are written about it
@@dj_m19 I always said, in these videos, it all depends on how you chose images and how you edit them.
@@bestopinion9257 I completely understand that's a lengthy and difficult process to get proper scaling, but after so many videos over the years and so many comments pointing it out, you'd think that Supersetman would actually do something about it.
These are arguably 2 best and most known bb-ers of all time, not some chumps nobody has seen on stage.
I looked back at the 96 grand prix footage(where thet both competed) and think based on that Ronnie is oversized here. Dorian has a bigger head😂 and his calves dwarf Ronnies. Might just be the 93 angle though
Angles play a huge role
@@Supersetman Do you happen to know Ronnies actual stage weight on 03? Cutler said he saw Ronnie weigh in at 277lb but that sounds too light to me
@@woahblackbettybamalam Ronnie himself said 287, but knowing how everyone tends to exagerate on their weight, Jay might be right
@@Supersetman You mean Ronnie wasn't 0.3% bodyfat 😂... If it is 277 then thats only a 20lb difference between him and 93 Dorian.
@@Supersetman the scaling is way off man
the angle is head on for both guys thats no excuse
the dorian footage is taken from below he stage( judges position kinda), while Ronnies 03 footage from the Mandalay Bay is taken from above and i think from a greater distance.
You have to take into account their width as well. There is no pose where Ronnie would be wider( elbow to elbow) regardless of how much more he weighed.He was 39 in 03, you think his bone structure grew at that age?Not only that but Ronnie has a much wider stance in most poses, so IRL he would he slightly SHORTER.Both are 5 10 when they standing straight.
Ronnie had a smaller head, narrower waist even in 03.
I have the whole DVD w 2003 mr O, Jay was 255 lb in that show and had a wider back than Ronnie in the RLS
Ronnie had bigger glutes and quads than Jay and thats about it.The same would apply versus yates
Dorian always looked in better condition, steel hard, yea Ronnie is bigger but condition wise, always Dorian for me. Just my opinion.
Great comparisons like always. I will say though that you made Ronnie a bit too big. His torso here is longer and broader than Yates when in reality it was the opposite.
Dorian doesn’t even look like a mass monster side by side with ‘03 Ronnie.
The trap development in the 2000 body builders just takes things to another level, but at the sacrifice of lower back muscle separation/definition.
i could flip that argument, and say ronnie doesnt look in contest condition next to a granite bone dry yates
dorians traps DWARF Ronnies, esp in terms of area they cover. Thickness is hard to estimate as ronnie eans back way more during the bdb pose, whcih makes his whole back and traps pop more.
@@TheLusianPopa
I997/1998 Ronnie was his best-he looked fit and able to run and catch a football at top speed. Once you get into 2000 Ronnie, he just looks unathletic. By traps, Ronnie’s upper traps bulging up to nearly his ears from the front is something Dorian never had. Dorian’s mid traps and rhomboids underneath were massive and thick.
No chance in heck. Ronnie's traps are bigger thicker than Dorian's. His entire back is thicker, you can see it in the back double bi. You can talk about leaning back all you want, but it's obvious it's a lean mass difference. Ronnie looks in contest condition, holding a bit of water under the skin, when he is also holding more water in the muscle and looking bigger and more full balances out. Especially when Coleman is has much more round muscle bellies.
It was everything Dorian could do to beat Levrone, Wheeler and Shawn Ray because they all had better shape than him. Ronnie became bigger than any of these guys and has shapely muscle like Flex with a ribcage and chest that can stand next to anyone. It's Dorians worst nightmare. A guy with round muscle bellies who can match his size.
@@TheLusianPopa
@@paulcox2447 no they are NOT. Dorians traps insert much lower and wider than Ronnies.
Ronnies back is ILLUSION. the narrow waist and "black guy tie ins" make his back look bigger and thicker than what it really is.
Dorians back is bigger harder more striated more separated. Ronnie has a slightly better v taper and thats it
shape isnt judged officially. Ronnie became bigger than those guys too bad when he did get very heavy he lost the dryness and density and blew his waistline out. Thats why the 03 ronnie is very overrated.
Dorians worst nightmare? lol
its more like the other way around,dorian would be ronnies worst nightmare
lets look who got 2nd to ronnie during those 8 years
flex wheeler 98-99- well flex was smaller than dorian and way softer...
levrone 00/02- never had back thickness or crazy condition
cutler-who was weak from the back
ronnie never faced someone like a prime dorian, someone that could seriously outcondition him-jay and wheeler couldnt. Or someone that was at least as good from the back-jay was crap
its as simple as this
ronnie beat jay ONLY becayse of the 2 back poses-from the front and side they were pretty much tied
as jay ALWAYS beat ron on side triceps, abs thigh and front lat spread and ronnie took side chest, fdb etc
ronnie only pulled away from jay on the 2 back poses something he wouldnt do with dorian because dorian was a monster in the back poses
and as good as jay was in some poses like side triceps or front lat spread, dorian was even better in those poses than jay
so dorian would have every chance at beating ronnie
round muscle bellies dont mean jack shit
jay beat cormier all those years with way worse shape
branch beat the best ever dexter in 09,10....
mike francois beat wheeler
wolf beat rhoden when they were both their bests
blokcy white guys beating round muscle bellies since the 90s lol
you can try more but im too well versed on this topic
@@TheLusianPopadorian has men's physique arms chest and legs from the rear.
8” Ronnie vs 5’7” Dorian 😂😂
dorian ab and thigh is wonderful
Thanks for all the efforts kudos to this channel
So nice of you
The 1993 OLYMPIA was held in Atlanta Georgia, the 2003 OLYMPIA was held in Las Vegas. / Dorian demolished Ronnie (and everyone else) numerous times, and had Dorian not been injured and had competed in '98, he would've stayed OLYMPIA champion. / The footage you're using is blown up on Ronnie's side to make him appear larger than he'd actually be in real competition.
This insase good production, great work man!
Wow I love these comparisons!!! So epic 🎉
Glad you like them!
Online Petition to make supersetman as mr Olympia Official judge. This is very informative and unbiased. Well executed! 💪💯
The angle that each video was filmed at is way different from the other, Ronnie was filmed from above, Dorian from below
Ronnie’s calf doesn’t look too small compared to Dorian and we all know Dorian has superior calfs. Plus Ronnie’s glute is massive here, so I don’t think the angles between the two really that much different
Bro you really stepped it up with this. I reminds me of the old MK games and I’m wondering why this wasn’t done sooner bc it really works so well
They are both 5.11 but on this video looks Rony is 6.3 . Come on dude do it equally heights
Even in that old 1993 video you can see how much more conditioned Dorian is. It’s not even close
Awesome work brother! Can you Please add some crowd sound effects as it adds intensity to an already stellar job in video production! 🔥💯
I thought Dorian was a touch taller than Ronnie IRL, but this is incredible man! Amazing work!
Ronnie: 1.80
Dorian: 1.78
Thank you for the video, however, your sizing of the individuals are way off and this gives Ronnie an unfair advantage. It is abundantly clear that this video shows Ronnie as a closer image to that of Dorian. Very important to note that Dorian and Ronnie are the same height, however, in your video, it seems that Ronnie is viewed to be way taller - This is exemplified due to the mismatched individual characters.
With this video, side by side comparison the size difference between Ronnie and, not just Dorian but, every other Mr. Olympia competitor in history is much more evident. When people in the comments of vs. videos are always saying about Ronnie's size in 03 giving him the edge in poses where the focus of the pose is close; they really aren't exaggerating. He was the best bodybuilder of all time on that stage in 03.
Thanks for the comparison Supersetman. I didn't think this would be possible with the footage I was aware of when you made your first size-accurate video comparison video but here it is.
The only issue is that actually having them on the stage next to each other will make dorian look like a child. The size difference is insans
whats insane though is how Dorian would still be wider than Ronnie in the RLS, don't know why but I just find it insane
That’s because Ronnie’s two weeks out, for sure Dorian wasn’t as big as big Ron but at least he was stage ready.
@@sig4974The problem is, this is open bodybuilding, where size and conditioning are equally important. Dorian for sure beats Ronnie in hard grainy conditioning, but only a bit. Ronnie on the other hand, is almost as conditioned as Dorian but overwhelms him with size. By those metric, the only way Dorian beats Ronnie, is that if he's near Ronnie's size with the same condition he has here, which never happened in his career because it's impossible to outsize the king with greater condition.
@housesports000 because Ronnie's arms are so much bigger than dorians especially the biceps they actually cover up some of his lats,we're as Dorian had weak small arms so you can see his full lats.
the scaling is way off and only noobs cant notice that
Love it! But you know what we want! And we know that you know what we want, and that’s 98 Ronaldo Coleman vs 93 Dorian. It shouldn’t even be possible but somehow you’ve made it possible. Cheers SSM.
Continue assim mano, você será grande 💪🏽🙌🏽
Best comparisons on youtube.
Thank you!
BRILLIANT CONTENT MATE WOW
Thank you bro 🙏
Anytime!
it's really good !
Why do people pretend Dorian is close to Ronnie level?
because of time eras. Dorian was the start of mass monsters
on point comparison
As always, great concept once again - HOWEVER, this could have been sooo much better had the scaling not been so far off. You have Yates looking like Dexter Jackson next to Ronnie. Ronnie was 287 in '03, Yates 257 in '93, yet you have Coleman looking 50-60 lbs bigger here. You always need to compare the size of the heads, and hands, to get in the ballpark. Ronnie is bald, with a smallish head, compared to Yates, who even with hair, his head appears small next to Coleman here. Same with the hands. Yates is slightly taller than Coleman, as can be seen in the couple rare comparisons where they are on stage together in '96 in a grand prix show. Yet in this vid, Yates appears shorter. With your expertise, I'm sure you can get the scaling more accurate. Maybe next time.
Remember, when dorian stepped on stage with that physique it smoked everyone else at the time. Though Ronnies is impressive, his competitors had definitely sized up in years since 93.
Incredible work..No one can really defeat Ronnie's pure slab of mass..The earlier posing stance also makes it impossible in certain shots.... . My only criticism is I think you scaled Dorian slightly to small in comparison .. Top vid tho.
Dorian the 🐐
In Ronnie’s early years he hit the front lat perfect . As he got bigger he turned it into a most muscular ab and thigh combo . He could have looked so much better in it
U do realize they are about the same height?
I still give Dorian the win. What is the point being so big and having a blown out gut, and you can not hold a pose. Size over Class
Two legends in one video 🙏💪😤🗿💯🔥👑😎
This was close, your scaling is off tho, you can tell even from DY's head he was too small here for this comparison. But comparisons aside I mostly agree, but I feel the rear double bi and rear latspread is not totally in RC's court, it's a really close call here, I'd prolly call it a draw in many ways (on these two poses).
Look here, real both on stage:
ua-cam.com/video/_ErbttdxpQE/v-deo.html
Ronnie is not taller, not with bigger hands (you do not put muscles on hands) and not with bigger head. Dorian is obviously in the distant plane in your video.
Another comparison you can do is via Nasser. Nasser looks as big as Dorian in 1997 but much bigger that Ronnie in 1998. Same weight. I know Ronnie is in big 2003 version here, but c'mon, you deliberately put Dorian in distant plane.
Awesome work. I do think scaling is off a bit. I know Ronnie had more mass, but the difference was not this much. I know Ronnie will win most mass comparisons, however this is bodybuilding which takes into account aethetics and conditioning, Dorian wins in my book.
Im new to the channel, but have you done a comparison between 98 or 99 Coleman vs 93 Dorian ? In my opinion it would be great as well, the size difference would be much smaller and more interesting .
Coming soon… Welcome to the channel!
I have to hard disagree on what you said for/how you scored almost every pose
FDB- easy 3 point win for Ronnie. Perfect X-frame and he flows well despite his midsection because everything is just so damn big. Dorian literally doesn’t even have biceps compared to Ronnie and his flow is bad imho. He’s blocky around the abs and too shallow up top to balance it out.
ST- other than the tricep Dorian is literally getting dwarfed. The only other thing Dorian has is execution, but this is a 1 point win at most. 3 points is absolutely ridiculous when you literally look like a classic physique competitor next to your opponent.
AT- it’s the same story. Ronnie is just so much bigger and doesn’t flow too awfully. 1 point for Dorian imo.
FLS- should be at least 2 points for Ronnie. His lats pop almost as well as Dorians (who has a better camera angle for this pose) and he literally looks like a whole different species size wise.
BDB- again at least 2 points for Ronnie. Bigger back, actually has biceps and absolutely dominates in the lower half. The only thing Dorian has is definition.
BLS- 3 points for Ronnie. The conditioning edge from the BDB is almost gone in this pose. You are again left with what looks like open vs. classic physique. Hell with that lower body Ronnie makes Dorian look like a mens physique athlete even.
Overall should have been a way easier Domination for Ronnie imo.
16-2 minimum for Ronnie.
now back to planet earth
condition KILLS as weinberger said
RLS- dorians lats are wider and much much harder and he has a balanced lower bodyhe wins
bdb-ronnies back isnt bigger at all and its aysmmetircal and soft and melted,and has no balance downstairs again
gustavo could beat 280 lb ronnie in the side tri, so dorian MURKS HIM
abs thigh? dorians taper, flatter midsection, way better abs and tear drop/sartorius KILL Ronnie who only has big sweep as an argument
fls? ronnies lats dont pop like dorians at all, and his gut is very visible, Yates also has deeper cuts on his quads,ronnirs delts are bigger bvut dorians are more capped in this pose
bls? you really want me to provide LINKS where cutler, palumbo, aceto, cormier, levrone,dennis james, milos ALL say dorian had the better RLS? you want me to believe you know better than all those guys who saw them live at their best?
ronnie doesnt even beat the fridge in the fls, forget about a peak yates
fdb? never once saw " x frame" in the judging book.its not a mandtaory trait to have buddy
i can own you to oblivion til the end of the world
tie in the mandtaories but yates had better quarter turns and would leave the buffalo for dead in the then scored posing rd
NEXT
2017 Phil v 03’ Ronnie I wanna see Phil’s biggest version with most impressive back in this match up. Also since both their mid sections weren’t so good in the respective years it seems fair.
I Prefer 2013 Phil. Phil considered It to be his best version.
@@pedroguimaraes6094 2013 is great but the back poses especially his BLS 2017 is just other worldly, also never seen that comparison.
I feel like the size difference isnt that big between the two. Ronnie is kindof oversized in this video. Dorian was absolutely massive himself.
Lights out....Game over! Not even close!! Coleman is king for a reason! NEXT!
scaling is way off, and dorian makes ronnie lokk EIGHT WEEKS OUT IRL
next !
I'm a big Dorian Yates guy, but the only shot where I see him beating Coleman is in the front abs/thighs. Coleman was absolutely enormous and ripped that year. I think the great Kevin Levrone said it best: "He came out looking like a Silverback Gorilla."
He is smashing Ronnie in the side triceps. Arguably winning back double as well.
He has a film of water on his legs and his back is not conditioned and with little detail.
Dorian yates
Dorian's conditioning its so far superior makes Ronnie looks like a water buffalo.
Do ronnie vs kevin levrone 1997
Ronnies size is so insanely overwhelming
Please make rubiel better (better arms and shoulders) and let him fight big ramy 2020
Please redo this video with correct sizing, Dorian needs to be bigger.
They both are my favorite bodybuilder but dude you made Ronnie way too big.
NO. I made Dorian too small
Can you pease do if 1999 kevin levrone compete in 2023
Imagine being able to clean Dorian's footage with AI 🤩
Conditioning wise it’s like judging clay v’s granite so 🤷♂
Dorian was harder indeed, but he was flat in comparison...
@@Supersetman Aye I agree 👍 full v’s hard’n dry is very subjective so I guess it comes down to a personal preference...Ronnie spilling over v’s Yates 💎 and tad flat 😃🤷♂
@@Supersetman dorian wasnt flat in 93....he was flat in 92 and 96 when he overdieted
"Granite" conditioning is massively overrated in bodybuilding. It's better to be 95% of the way there conditioning wise and still have all of the round muscle fullness like Ronnie here than to over-diet and look flat in poses like the side chest which Dorian unfortunately did, more often than not.
@@damboulton back in the 90s dryness was rewarded. He was bringing to the stage what was rewarded.fullness is basically the easy way out.and dorian wasnt flat in 93....92 or 96 sure but not 93.if dorian came in full likw in the black and whites ronnies size edge is half lost. Roundness is hardly mandatory.
I think these people watching this must have like lost their vision or something Dorian is clearly the superior bodybuilder it's not about who weighs more Ronnie looks like a bloated holding water mess there's no way those judges would give him this contest if you stood him next to Dorian with that paper thin skin in that kind of condition and by the way during Wait about 270 lb there if you stood them side by side not in a picture like you're doing Ronnie would not be bigger than him not by much most of their career Dorian was bigger than Ronnie let's be real here Dorian would have beaten him Ronnie almost looks fat when you stand him next to Dorian his belly bulging out everywhere there's no way a judge could give a man with a belly that big the win over somebody as shredded and perfectly shaped as Dorian no way
Bad scaling. Dorian was a strong 5'10 and Ronnie was a weak 5'11, half an inch difference. Yet Dorian is standing straight while Ronnie is crunching is most of the poses and still Ronnie looks a full inch or even 2 inches taller in this video, @thelusianopopa will back me on this one . Bad scaling for comparing, I know how hard it is to scale them properly.Still even if it was scaled properly, Ronnie would have a clear mass advantage. Ronnie wins this clearly, he went full mass mode in 2003' while Dorian was already by far the biggest on the stage in 93' so he cut down for crazy conditioning. Especially the back, while Dorian was arguably getting worse after 93' one bodypart that kept getting better and better was the back. His back was the best in 97' and he can match and even beat 03' Ronnie from the back. I wish DOrian came one year at his full size, then we would have a battle of all ages against the 03' Ronnie. But he didn't, so nobody can challenge the king
I'd argue that both of them are around 5'10.5 while LEE HANEY was the only true 5'11-er of the bunch.
Arnold 1974 yes !
Please do 3 weeks out Dorian vs Coleman
Phil Heath 2013 vs Kevin levrone 99 (British Gran Prix)
Dirian has the perfect structure for a bodybuilder. I say this because he doesn't have a weak pose
side chest and front double
@@kanyewestvideos3925 his fdb was far from WEAK in 93 and his side chest wasnt either.
dorian in his best years beat levrone on the side chest whom many say is top 3 ever in that pose
let that sink in
Most Muscular is weak. Because of his undersized arms and small shoulders. Front double also quite bad. Because of his biceps and wide waist.
@@sonyx4500 dorians shoulder were huge.fdb in 93 was insane.his waist wsnt wide and his arms big.most muscular wasnt a mandatory in his era, he always hit it as an afterthought. Even milos sais dorian no real weak mandatories....and he hates dorians guts.
@@TheLusianPopa Most Muscular is a mandatory now. And the 90s are long over. And yes his shoulders looked small in most muscular compared to Ronnie. Biceps were asymmetrical and his thighs had no outer sweep.
Not sure if they are exactly the same magnification.
I don't think the proportions are right. Look at the calves.
We need 3 weeks out Dorian
Very impressive editing. Unfortunately the angle of each original video makes this look odd :). Dorian’s head (& upper body) is too small/Ronnies too big because of the lower camera angle (below the stage looking up), whilst Ronnie’s appears more straight on.
Still, what stands out is Dorian’s superior detail/separation; in comparison Ronnie looks not quite competition ready; he’s too bloated and full of water.
‘98 (aside from Gyno) & ‘99 Ronnie would be a better comparison
Ronnie vs Phil
98&99 is compatible because of the size are about equal and weight to dorian
Rühl Mr O 04 vs big Ron 03
Great one bro but how someone said Dorian in hands clasped mm he almost top Ron look at 03:10 Dorian shoulders are milted zero compares vs Ron in mm
honestly dorian's back double bicep never really did it for me. For some reason his wide lats don't flare out in the pose, that plus his wide waist and lack of outer quad sweep makes his x-frame really mediocre. Sure he has his strong points like his huge traps and overall back detail and hardness as well as his huge calves, but even taking those into account the balance is off, his muscles don't pop one bit and his asymmetry is very apparent (although admittedly Ronnie's asymmetry is comparable).
Dorian looks classic
Ronnie delts, arms and chest makes Dorian look like that he doesn’t even lift💀
Please make a better rubiel (better arms and shoulders) and let him challenge big ramy 2020
Use prime Ronnie 98-99 instead of bubble gut water buffalo 03 Ronnie
That's your opinion... In my opinion, 03 Ronnie, though not as aesthetic, is the most dominant version of his
@@Supersetman He is worse but better at the same time. His size is just overwhelming.
@@Nagy.Patrik completely agree. When compared to himself, 98-99 might be better, but when compared to others, 03 is harder to defeat!
Eh 98 had the gyno. 99 was incredible though.
@@smitabhmoitra5726Steve the head judge said Ron 98is probably the best ever
Big ronnie wins this easy
I only need now vr comparison 😂😂😂😂😂
coming soon on Supersetman :D
This awesome video shows why Ronnie Coleman is the Greatest of All time when it comes to pure physique. Dorian or Phil is the best contender to the 2nd spot when they share the rest of the podium based on what and what criteria will be used to measure them. When it comes to the GOAT distinction, Ronnie and Arnold in my opinion are the two GOATs of Bodybuilding.
Supersetman took the comparison game to the Next level with these video conparisons. Lets take him to the Silver play button.
Markus ruhl 2002 NOC vs Ronnie Coleman would be awesome I think ruhl will defeat big ron
Ronnie wins, he is just too big for Dorian to contend with (but Dorian is handily beating him in muscle quality, best all time back and better posing). But I would definitely rather have Dorians physique.
Mee too
Dorian is too far back in the comparison. If you lined him closer it would be more accurate
Your scale is way way off
Comon dorian should win in many poses
Wrong home work is done by you
Phil lost the title with a bloated stomach. Ronnie is the same situation but yet he won
what is this scaling lil bro? you keep doing this in every Dorian + Ronnie video that you've ever made.
I also remember you replying to me that Coleman was taller and wider than Yates when neither of those are true
Fix your scaling, you already have many comments calling you out on it. When something isn't true, then it isn't. Stop shoving it down people's throats.
*Tonnes Coleman the nicest person the nicest friendly Mr.Olympia and greatest bodybuilder of all to time!!*
Original Mass Monster vs. God of Mass Monster
First time ever they both are sized correctly......otherwise nothing against dorian ...but everybody argued for.....him winning the back shots....✌️✌️✌️
No they are not. Their height difference is miniscule, and Ronnie is 1-2 inches taller in the video even while crunching
Ronnie still needs to lose like 35 pounds or so. Sorry Dorian had the best combination of mass and conditioning. Ronnie holds way to much water and looks 6 to 7 weeks out here. Not knocking Ronnie i like Ronnie but Ronnie even at his leanest was not even as dry as Dorian.
That’s what I’m saying. These guys are like two different animals the conditioning is so much greater for Dorian. He does make Ronnie look 6 to 7 weeks out here. Dorian for the win. No greater combo of mass and conditioning
Ronnie monsters him
When does ronnie start his diet/cause he looks 8 weeks out IRL next to a granite Yates
Ronnie is too close to the camera on this one. I'm a huge Ronnie fan, maybe the biggest on the channel (no homo)
Ronnie looks at least 2 ft in front.
Ronnie still wins 10/10 times tho. His muscle shape is just too much better. Flex and Kevin and Sean all pushed Dorian because of their shape. Ronnie had that same shape, but managed to throw more size on than all of them.
He dwarfed Kevin and flex by the end.
Масштаб вообще не соблюден.
Dont completely agree with ur BLS analysis. Ronnies presentation with legs spread apart is better than dorians straight legs. Dorian doesnt show any quad sweep in that pose. Also arms are a factor if you ask me cuz triceps sweep enhances the pose a lot and as bad as ronnies triceps horshoe is his over all sweep of thr triceps is amaying and better than dorians.
From fls Ronnie to big😂
Lee priest is 100 times better than pregnant Ronnie
Not even close😂😂
this would be a very cool match up IRL
It would put the judges on the spot
Do they go for a guy with outrageous size and good condition and bad symmetry, or do they go for a guy with good size, insane condition and good symmetry
quantity vs quality in short terms
Ronnies muscularity was incredble in 2003, but i dont think it would win him many poses
After all Nasser was 280-85 and couldnt beat Dorian in alot of poses.So why would 2003 Ronnie do it?in fact 96 Nasser arguably is better from the front than 2003 Ronnie is. Better FLS,AT and comparable FDB and MM. You could argue Ronnie has Nasser in the SC but Nasser would almost certainly win the ST.A not his best Dorian beat that 96 Nasser, a 93 Dorian would leave him for dead.
Just making an analogy.
dorian is the better symetry? are you smoking?
@@kanyewestvideos3925 symmetry in bb refers mostly to balance
Dorian in 93 is way more balanced than ronnie 03
ronnies thighs dwarf his caves and his distended midsection is visible in at lest 5 of the 8 poses
in the rear relaxed ronnies lats are not just noticeably asymmetrical but his whole back is much softer.
ronnie 03 would lose the symmetry rd/ quarter turns to 93 dorian
HANDS DOWN
You've come a long way Lucian, I think I can agree with everything you said. Nice analogy!
Nasser was robbed against Yates. So that’s a poor analogy. You’re biased as always. You want to downgrade 03 Ronnie in comparison to 93 Yates but using the criteria you laid out Yates would have lost the 96 and 97 Olympia. Nasser was superior in everything but the back poses. He easily took all the front and side shots. Yet Dorian won with a gut and one arm.
@@selfmade8884 i was talking about 96 Nasser dumb ass
and no Nasser wasnt robbed at all
actually dorian beat nasser in five of seven poses in both 96 and 97 and the fact that he won w perfect scores proves it
Not even close
IRL ronnie would look soft as sht, he is in a condition Yates was 6 weeks out( see the black and whites )