Are geniuses real? The neuroscience and myths of visionaries | Big Think

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  • @AnushHariharan
    @AnushHariharan 3 роки тому +148

    If you look closely, a person is a Genius not because they can remember a lot of facts or calculate fast. These are cognitive gifts. A genius is someone who connects information in a meaningful way. This depends on the way they think. This thinking is a skill development through introspection, reflection, and an open-mind.

  • @chrissscottt
    @chrissscottt 3 роки тому +93

    I made the mistake of clicking on this video to learn some neuroscientific insights but what I got was some dude's corporate seminar pitch.

    • @johnnystob4037
      @johnnystob4037 3 роки тому +5

      Somebody didn’t watch the whole video

    • @ElusiveCube
      @ElusiveCube 3 роки тому +1

      Exactly in first 4 minutes , I thought along Bill Nye, gibberish.

    • @yourmorningsht8538
      @yourmorningsht8538 3 роки тому +1

      Cool profile photo, bad comment

    • @chrissscottt
      @chrissscottt 3 роки тому +2

      @@yourmorningsht8538 Thanks I guess. You have to admit the first part of this video is corporate waffle and that's as far as I got.

    • @wakousyremu8946
      @wakousyremu8946 3 роки тому

      @@chrissscottt yes it is. And genius isn't team work. It requires more than only your own ideas and vision. But the genius can create something entirely new with it. Were these people would just get stuck and not progress any further

  • @glitchysquid1137
    @glitchysquid1137 3 роки тому +171

    Big think, "Genius is a team sport that requires natural creativity."
    Schools, "Read Chapter X, and do the questions at the end. No discussing answers."

    • @cultofpunktionality3302
      @cultofpunktionality3302 3 роки тому +6

      Underrated

    • @Chrisdashes
      @Chrisdashes 3 роки тому +1

      @Theodore Moises tip: these two people mentioning flixzone are bots. GOOGLE IT

    • @masonfarnsworth6730
      @masonfarnsworth6730 3 роки тому +1

      Imagine if schools graded you as a team. As a grade. As a generation and it mattered. We would be lynching half the class. 1 slackers (me) and the over enthusiastic blonde cheerleaders. Well. Welcome to todays age. We have the internet. Kids watching these videos all day isnt slacking. Its learning. And look he failed his science Quiz but has a much better understanding of quantum mechanics and orbital mechanics than the teacher does.

  • @GaryGrumble
    @GaryGrumble 3 роки тому +63

    I think that you have a marketing view of Genius. The Physicists on most peoples Genius list all worked alone though the latter ones all said that they "Stood on the shoulders of Giants". eg Galileo, Newton, and Einstein definitely worked alone in the early years before they were discovered.

    • @yourmorningsht8538
      @yourmorningsht8538 3 роки тому

      Do you believe that Stephan Hawking is worthy enough to be considered one of the greats?

    • @thressiapl1383
      @thressiapl1383 3 роки тому

      So how can you say that with so much certainty? Where you there when they were actually "lonely inventing". The thing is we don't know. And when the research says that it's true then what could we possibly trust?

    • @jeremywvarietyofviewpoints3104
      @jeremywvarietyofviewpoints3104 3 роки тому +8

      They had people they knew who influenced them and they had writings by people who had gone before. Einstein had lots of conversations with other people and got feedback. He went to school and university. I think he had an uncle or a tutor who inspired him. He had his first wife. He had his friends. He was pretty social when he was young. His work was inspired by experiments that had been done by others. So while he was highly original and did great work he wouldn't have been able to do it without others.

    • @standowner6979
      @standowner6979 3 роки тому

      @@yourmorningsht8538 No!

    • @kcopara1
      @kcopara1 3 роки тому +9

      @@jeremywvarietyofviewpoints3104 You are reaching. The author talked about WORKING IN TEAMS. By your logic we should also include his Mom, Dad, Uncles, Aunts, pets... Anyone that had a modicum of positive influence in his life. His ingenuity came in "hitting a target NO ONE could see". He did that alone. No one were in his imaginary experiments that he often did alone. As well, Nikola Tesla...a genius who died alone and performed most of his inventions and imaginary experiments while walking by himself (Einstein went out on a boat alone or walked alone). Ironic this guy mentions Edison who isn't a genius but never once mentioned Tesla... The true genius Edison tried to destroy. That's why this guy loses credibility.

  • @robertferraro236
    @robertferraro236 3 роки тому +13

    That guy was way over the top and just speaking in generalities. I wouldn't take anything that he says seriously. He was taught at some point in his life, be and sound assertive, and you will go places. The girl made some good points. The secret to achieving genius is to focus on a problem literally 24/7 and your brain in the background makes all the connections it needs to solve the problem at hand. Your reticular activator is activated and the thoughts just come to you spontaneously at moments you least expect them, and they are usually, but not always, right on the money. Our brains have a really powerful background processor we also know as our subconscious and it takes care of this background processing.

  • @yoursubconscious
    @yoursubconscious 3 роки тому +7

    - complementing another comment -
    school: "No sharing answers during a test"
    work: "Make sure you work as a team to accomplish more during this test of our business"
    This is the start of failure and confusion within people.

  • @FutureMindset
    @FutureMindset 3 роки тому +81

    Everyone's got their own strengths. No one person can expect to be good at everything.

  • @TheRealInky
    @TheRealInky 3 роки тому +38

    Genius is a word with an elusive definition, just like intelligence. What does it mean to be intelligent? Is someone who is terrible at math but a musical prodigy not in some sense a genius? Is someone who can't carry a tune but intuitively soaks up and understands complex mathematics not in some sense intelligent?
    Try as we might, we still can't really nail a working definition, and we've been trying for literally thousands of years. These are matters that have always been, and still are, hotly debated.
    How do you quantify either? An IQ test? Maybe... But it's my opinion that any test we come up with will only manage to quantify a tiny subset of what "intelligence" must *really* be.
    That's why this video is kind of pointless. It's just a bunch of people telling you their subjective opinions on genius, just like I just shared mine. A little interesting, I guess, but the implied "authority" of the speakers is a really misleading presentation, and that's something that irks me, and something this channel has a real habit of doing. It's pretentious.

    • @GabrielCarvv
      @GabrielCarvv 3 роки тому +4

      I noticed that too, stopped watching. Like you said, a bunch of people relaying their perspectives and breaking "myths". Some value to it, but ultimately a bit pointless. Great observations, thanks for sharing!

    • @smyatt1
      @smyatt1 2 роки тому +2

      Ericsson did a whole load of research that calls for redefinement/debunking of the concepts of genius and talent; he's worth looking into.

    • @keanmrnam
      @keanmrnam 2 роки тому +1

      100% agree, but be that as it may, it's still a tool to (if you overthink like I do) think about what you think about things. It can encourage you to form your own opinion on whatever topic they think relevant, which has its purpose.

  • @yvonnepeters1914
    @yvonnepeters1914 3 роки тому +142

    Buckminster Fuller said "we are all born geniuses, but life De-geniuses us."

    • @The1stHomosapien
      @The1stHomosapien 3 роки тому +6

      No, its genetic, and or the cells respond to the environment.

    • @chess1011
      @chess1011 3 роки тому +2

      @@The1stHomosapien I was going to say nearly the same thing but you already said it in response 😂

    • @The1stHomosapien
      @The1stHomosapien 3 роки тому +1

      @@chess1011 allah akbar my fren

    • @Supraa.
      @Supraa. 3 роки тому +5

      Another way to say poverty makes people idiots

    • @yvonnepeters1914
      @yvonnepeters1914 3 роки тому

      @@Supraa. No, life in general or having a sense of seperateness from God.

  • @alanroberts7916
    @alanroberts7916 2 роки тому +4

    My father worked for a manufacturing company in Chicago and decided to move out west several years before he would have retired. Without much of a business plan he had a few 💡 ideas but mainly he had a certain quality I'll just call courage. He was not shy. He went to the industrial plants in town and offered to tune up the efficiency of the machines that he made in Chicago.
    One company heard that dad was in town and agreed to meet with him to discuss a money making idea he called "sortation".
    We agreed to build the machines and they agreed to sell them... BUT when it came time to recieve the patent a problem came up with our patent attorney who said that rarely, if ever, do patents go to more than one person. The issue was resolved when they failed to sell enough machines. But we DID live up to our end by building a sufficient number of machines. We managed to stay in business for close to 40 years making these sorting and counting conveyor systems when technology and changes in the linen supply buisness caught up with us. I wonder if anyone else has had any similar experiences with patents?

  • @Siddhartha02
    @Siddhartha02 3 роки тому +11

    What team did Newton collaborate with when he invented calculus and classical mechanics? Sure he did stand on the shoulder of giants, but that does not take away from the fact that his own genius and contributions happened in isolation hiding away from a plague that was raging around 1665.

    • @MrRizeAG
      @MrRizeAG 3 роки тому +1

      You answered your own question, my dude.

    • @hendrikstrauss3717
      @hendrikstrauss3717 3 роки тому

      @@MrRizeAG Has he tho?

    • @Siddhartha02
      @Siddhartha02 3 роки тому +3

      When I say he stood on the shoulders of giants I mean that obviously he didn't invent all of the mathematics that calculus was built on top of. But what I'm saying is that the part that he personally created was not done together with a team in the way that Thomas Edison or Steve Jobs depended on working with other people. If you want to focus and think deeply and in novel ways about a subject isolating yourself from other people for some time can be helpful.

    • @Siddhartha02
      @Siddhartha02 3 роки тому +2

      ​@@Dimitris_Half You just repeated the first part of what i said back to me and then ignored my entire argument. Read and try to understand the whole argument before you adress it.

    • @Siddhartha02
      @Siddhartha02 3 роки тому +3

      @@Dimitris_Half Why must it be so black or white, is it so hard to accept that genius can both encompass learning from what others have made and an individual creative contribution which to a large part can happen in isolation.

  • @druggy1868
    @druggy1868 3 роки тому +23

    Only the one that understands the process that led to the discovery will not be surprised by it's ingenuity. We only call one a genius because we haven't gone through the process of understanding ourselves

    • @yourmorningsht8538
      @yourmorningsht8538 3 роки тому +1

      I really enjoy your method of writing, I find that it is very good at using one being a word that can be used in an unconventional method.

    • @bhavana5472
      @bhavana5472 3 роки тому +1

      Wow :o

  • @rijubhatt8366
    @rijubhatt8366 3 роки тому +11

    Keeping an open mind is important for the formation of new ideas.

  • @QuickThink688
    @QuickThink688 3 роки тому +31

    Could you speak about what collaborators worked with Leonardo Di Vinci and Copernicus?

    • @altonkatz2041
      @altonkatz2041 3 роки тому +13

      Ur mom

    • @alienistz5455
      @alienistz5455 3 роки тому +1

      @@altonkatz2041 chill

    • @Mousedragger
      @Mousedragger 3 роки тому +3

      @@alienistz5455 probably your mom as well

    • @yahiawaleed828
      @yahiawaleed828 3 роки тому +6

      They are an exteme rarity.... The obvious cost of this is being extremely alien to people... They were the type that would get cooped up somewhere with long periods of hyperfocus but I guess some had quite a bit of interactions that we do not know of but Leonardo da Vinci had interactions with people like Michelangelo

    • @amanrana3299
      @amanrana3299 3 роки тому

      @@yahiawaleed828 true

  • @PolicyThwonk
    @PolicyThwonk 3 роки тому +77

    "More than cleverness, we need kindness" - Charlie Chaplin

    • @THE-X-Force
      @THE-X-Force 3 роки тому +11

      I'm sorry, but I don't want to be an emperor.
      That's not my business.
      I don't want to rule or conquer anyone.
      I should like to help everyone, if possible.
      Jew - Gentile - Black Man, White.
      We all want to help one another, human beings are like that.
      We want to live by each other's happiness.
      Not by each other's misery.
      We don't want to hate and despise one another.
      And this world has room for everyone, and the good Earth is rich and can provide for everyone.
      The way of life can be free and beautiful, but we have lost the way.
      Greed has poisoned men's souls, has barricaded the world with hate, has goose-stepped us into misery and bloodshed.
      We have developed speed, but we have shut ourselves in.
      Machinery that gives us abundance has left us in want.
      Our knowledge has made us cynical.
      Our cleverness, hard and unkind.
      We think too much, and feel too little.
      More than machinery, we need humanity.
      More that cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness.
      Without these qualities life will be violent, and all will be lost.
      The aeroplane and the radio have brought us closer together.
      The very nature of these inventions cries out for the goodness in men
      ..
      cries out for universal brotherhood
      ..
      for the unity of us all.
      Even now my voice is reaching millions throughout the world.
      Millions of despairing men, women, and little children
      Victims of a system that makes men torture and imprison innocent people.
      To those who can hear me, I say - do not despair.
      The misery that is now upon us is but the passing of greed
      The bitterness of men who fear the way of human progress.
      The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people.
      And so long as men die, liberty will never perish.
      *Soldiers!*
      Don't give yourselves to brutes!
      men who despise you,
      enslave you.
      Who regiment your lives,
      tell you what to do,
      what to think and what to feel!
      Who drill you,
      diet you,
      treat you like cattle,
      use you as cannon fodder!
      Don't give yourselves to these unnatural men!
      Machine men with machine minds and machine hearts!
      You are not machines!
      You are not cattle!
      *You are men!*
      You have the love of humanity in your hearts!
      You don't hate!
      Only the unloved hate - the unloved and the unnatural!
      *Soldiers!*
      Don't fight for slavery!
      Fight for liberty!
      In the 17th Chapter of St Luke it is written:
      _"the Kingdom of God is within man"_
      Not one man nor a group of men, but in all men!
      *In you!*
      You, the people have the power!
      The power to create machines.
      The power to create happiness!
      You, the people, have the power to make this life free and beautiful!
      To make this life a wonderful adventure.
      Then - in the name of Democracy - let us use that power - let us all unite!
      Let us fight for a new world - a decent world that will give men a chance to work.
      That will give youth a future and old age a security.
      By the _promise_ of these things, brutes have risen to power.
      But they lie!
      They do not fulfill that promise.
      *_They never will!_*
      Dictators free themselves but they enslave the people!
      Now let us fight to fulfill that promise!
      Let us fight to free the world.
      To do away with national barriers.
      To do away with greed, with hate and intolerance.
      Let us fight for a world of reason.
      A world where science and progress will lead to all men's happiness.
      *Soldiers!*
      In the name of Democracy, let us all *unite!!*

    • @daduhd9304
      @daduhd9304 3 роки тому

      But cleverness is different and bad

    • @ID30394
      @ID30394 3 роки тому

      @@THE-X-Force Human nature is complicated.

    • @ID30394
      @ID30394 3 роки тому

      @@daduhd9304 ???

    • @daduhd9304
      @daduhd9304 3 роки тому

      @@ID30394 like smartness is what he's trying to degrade (?) by using the word cleverness instead?

  • @romanbrandle319
    @romanbrandle319 3 роки тому +24

    I've noticed that in the musician situation in a band , that even when I did the majority of the composing I still needed and wanted the input of the others to make the music better . Inspired creative think works best when we feed of others and the excitement it brings pushes to new heights and it makes it fun .

  • @CyanCooper
    @CyanCooper 3 роки тому +40

    Most people don’t have a team available to pull themselves out of poverty, they have to rely on their individual talents to make it happen. Sure, big projects like the iPhone or space travel aren’t going to be accomplished by a single individual, but that isn’t revelatory, interesting, or applicable to most people.

    • @danurkresnamurti3598
      @danurkresnamurti3598 3 роки тому +2

      wow. amazing opinion. i am agree with you

    • @Bushidounohana
      @Bushidounohana 3 роки тому +6

      I don’t disagree with the more pragmatic intuition of your response, however I think the evolution of higher ideals and understanding may always be distanced from the immediate, pragmatic day-to-day plights of normal individuals. That is to say-I’m not sure that clicking on what could be deemed (for better and for worse) naval gazing should yield the immediate expectation for keys to unlocking a viable strategy for social mobility. Just as most of us do not have access to such teams as described in the video, most of us also could not be considered genius. What is iterative and perhaps revelatory is challenging the commonly held myth that somehow these individuals are gods unto themselves. While this may not seem like much of a victory so far as the plight of the common man without access to teams of elevated medial prefrontal cortexes, it might help demystify creativity and genius a bit, inspiring the abandonment of antiquated and potentially destructive isolated ideals of genius and accomplishment. It might encourage us to work and think more collaboratively, reminding us that the truth of individual genius and capacity is only realized when combined with others. In an era arguably short on collaboration, cooperation, and diligence in personal reflection and recognition of patterns, there may be insights yet to be gleaned from such an otherwise perceptibly inapplicable reflection on loftier concepts.

    • @vivekramachandran2390
      @vivekramachandran2390 3 роки тому +3

      @@Bushidounohana yours is an interesting comment

  • @prkzoomin6994
    @prkzoomin6994 3 роки тому +15

    A Good Quote, The things you are passionate about are not random, they are your calling.

    • @sKid-yn4no
      @sKid-yn4no 3 роки тому +2

      Damn idk why but this hit me hard love u man

    • @117Industries
      @117Industries 3 роки тому +2

      @@sKid-yn4no Awww haha. This is the most amazing YT comment ever. I love you both.

    • @kear
      @kear 3 роки тому +1

      Warming quote, and true. Thanks

    • @jaffrayburk1
      @jaffrayburk1 3 роки тому

      My question after thinking about this for years: What if our passion is something we don't know of?

    • @117Industries
      @117Industries 3 роки тому

      @@jaffrayburk1 Then keep experiment until the passion is something you know of. When you find it, you will know. :)

  • @CHGLongStone
    @CHGLongStone 3 роки тому +33

    Conflating sales and genius is about as misdirected as you can get 😅

    • @fwd79
      @fwd79 3 роки тому

      Steve Jobs would disagree,being the biggest salesman there ever was.

    • @CHGLongStone
      @CHGLongStone 3 роки тому +2

      @@fwd79 exactly. Salesman not engineer. It takes a particular kind of moron to try and patent rounded corners.

    • @TJ-kk5zf
      @TJ-kk5zf 3 роки тому +2

      Emily Dickinson, Edgar Allen Poe, Vincent Van Gogh

  • @tylercooper1551
    @tylercooper1551 3 роки тому +15

    The survival of our species, from our beginning, relied upon each and every individual in the community playing their part in some way. Yeah we individually can survive on our own, but that doesn't further along the evolution of the species. Together, we are an entity that can do great things

  • @subbuktek
    @subbuktek 3 роки тому +9

    btw the sane scientist starts at 8:26

  • @bjalways2520
    @bjalways2520 Рік тому +2

    Lone Inventor meaning he’s the mind. The end product sure need a team but the thinking process, the generation of the idea sure does come from a sole genius mind.

  • @subbuktek
    @subbuktek 3 роки тому +11

    "Lot of people have debunked Einstein. Specifically in terms of Inventions,..Henry Ford".......ok....I am not sure he knows what he is talking about..

    • @tanitoluwaj.adedotun4960
      @tanitoluwaj.adedotun4960 3 роки тому +5

      Ruined a whole 14-minute video at the very start. It was bound to happen eventually, the premise of the video was flawed from the very start. First Bigthink video to heavily tank IMO.

    • @davidabdollahi7906
      @davidabdollahi7906 2 роки тому

      And what is wrong with what is said in the video?

  • @znull3356
    @znull3356 3 роки тому +10

    "In sales--" Aaaaand that's where we stop. There are no geniuses in sales, that much we can certainly agree on.

    • @johnnystob4037
      @johnnystob4037 3 роки тому

      If that were the case then Apple wouldn’t have any money

    • @znull3356
      @znull3356 3 роки тому +1

      @@johnnystob4037 Sales != Marketing

  • @archangecamilien1879
    @archangecamilien1879 3 роки тому +12

    I don't know, haha...I think this notion that there is no such thing as a lone genius is the myth, something we tell ourselves for motivation, haha...sometimes works of genius come out of collaboration (perhaps most of the time), but sometimes it comes from someone working alone...did Andrew Wiles collaborate during those years of work on Fermat's Last Theorem? (now, haha, I know he made a mistake which was corrected by one of his graduate students or something...but he pretty much worked all those years like a hermit)...ok, maybe all ideas do, to some extent, come from elsewhere, from others, one "stands on the shoulders of giants (Newton was often working alone, another example, many scientists from the olden days were more isolated than they are today), but still...was Ramanujan collaborating with people in India, other than showing people his work, before the whole Hardy thing?...This is wishful thinking...

  • @rajatdas5500
    @rajatdas5500 Рік тому +2

    If you look at history, the majority of the innovative ideas came from individuals. It's the group of people that turn it into reality. You can have innovative ideas about something, but you need resources, funding, and teams to make it happen.

  • @stevenjbeto
    @stevenjbeto 3 роки тому +14

    Creative people stand on the shoulders of giants, and it's giants all the way down.

    • @elinope4745
      @elinope4745 3 роки тому

      And if they do well, they become a giant themselves. In that way they become immortal, living on through the memories of others.

    • @jrtaylor1275
      @jrtaylor1275 3 роки тому

      Nope, that’s malignant egalitarianism

  • @mpcc2022
    @mpcc2022 3 роки тому +5

    Newton was a lone genius, Boltzmann was a lone genius; lone genius is rare and narrowly applicable to domains such as mathematics, novel writing, physics, and programming, though the majority of individuals in these fields collaborate. The issue is people don't think nuanced enough to get the picture of creativity, because creativity is domain specific, but even this guy is talking about creativity synonymous with genius and creativity unilaterally or universally.

    • @mpcc2022
      @mpcc2022 2 роки тому +1

      @Adruhza _ I agree, everyone learns from others but not everyone works solitarily to bring about a new perspective or way of seeing in doing something. It's the individual effort that makes for the seminal contribution that makes for lone genius.

  • @ConnoisseurOfExistence
    @ConnoisseurOfExistence 3 роки тому +19

    Well, people definitely differ by their abilities, both physical and mental as well. It can be measured with formal test (as pattern recognition, or IQ), but also can be roughly assessed by simple talk. I've met many different people in my life and normally after just few minutes of talk you can clearly determine the scope of someone's abilities and education. And I'm not saying that education makes you necessarily smart, but a clever and curious person just browse, search and finds out information on their own (especially nowadays).

    • @miakiceh
      @miakiceh Рік тому +1

      @Nikolay Tonev *..I can tell, by talking to them" (quote)
      I've met people with speech impediments that were so self conscientious of it they didn't practice communication.
      They spent their time alone- developing ideas...
      If a person could be trained to exhibit the highest IQ... I wouldn't consider that genius. That's just an above average ability to recall facts, details...
      A genius is being able to take concepts of details, facts and theory and fit them together in such a way that it feels like child's play.
      The combination of abstract patterns and fractions of ideas take shape to form complete projects, so effortlessly that one can't believe that it's not already on the market.
      Genius is not taught, it's manifested and exposed.

  • @senshai1267
    @senshai1267 3 роки тому +30

    Genius is einstein's Imagination and how well he understood his imagination .

    • @sch4891
      @sch4891 3 роки тому +3

      i can't remember the source but i remember learning that einstein's creativity came from a bunch of sci fi writers of his time. i suspect that they were on a lot of drugs. i wish that this video had covered the role that psychedelics have played on our creativity and innovation

  • @luisfelipe7351
    @luisfelipe7351 3 роки тому +6

    I believe in eureka,in geniuses,but i also believe in smartness and exploitation...many geniuses have never been recognized

  • @ElusiveCube
    @ElusiveCube 3 роки тому +7

    There were many geniuses WORKING ALONE, sure establishing they skills ON THE SHOULDERS OF GIANTS, Genius is a obsessives thinker, usually a loaner, this video is more long the lines of a CORPORATE SUCCESS OF A COLABORATIVE effort .

  • @nisarabro5585
    @nisarabro5585 2 роки тому +3

    I am giving here 2 Examples of the Great Scientists who were the Real Geniuses . One is Galileo Galilei and the other is Sir Isaac Newton. Were there Inventions a result of a Team or a Previous Background Support. As far as my information is concerned, their Inventions were Independent of any External Support and also was not Based on any of the Opportunity as being referred to . If I am wrong, I may kindly be corrected please. Thanks

  • @mantudas291
    @mantudas291 3 роки тому +1

    SOLITUDE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR CREATIVITY Read autobiography of Einstein Tesla Grothendick etc

  • @brunolopes7311
    @brunolopes7311 3 роки тому +6

    how do you explain the children that are born with a high IQ and go to the university at the age of 8 ??? it seams that this people are destroying the idea of genius people, so the rest of the world can feel better if they are not one of them.....

    • @matttondr9282
      @matttondr9282 3 роки тому

      They’re using the word genius more as a person who’s invented/accomplished something extraordinary, not as a measure of their intelligence.

  • @charlespackwood2055
    @charlespackwood2055 3 роки тому +1

    I've had eureka moments. But I have no idea how that relates to what is going on simultaneously in everyone else's minds.
    But the moment you have a eureka moment, you know that anyone who says you cannot have a eureka moment is the guy that never has had a eureka moment, and therefore needs to suck off other people's stuff or be in a group that can make a whole out of a puzzle.

  • @MaximTendu
    @MaximTendu 2 роки тому +1

    there are two kinds of people in the world: geniuses, and those who claim to be one. I am a genius.

  • @harishrathee5863
    @harishrathee5863 3 роки тому +2

    There is no such thing as a lone inventor
    Nikola Tesla: hold my Tesla coil.. bruhh

  • @grandolph9281
    @grandolph9281 3 роки тому +2

    Sales and marketing… skeptical already

  • @BenRush
    @BenRush 2 роки тому +1

    This is the kind of crap passed around sales groups to get everyone to team up and synergize.

  • @bongothecat3233
    @bongothecat3233 Рік тому +1

    It would be more convincing if the dude talking in the beginning actually has scientific training and understand how impressive it is to come up with general relativity or developing a method to sequence proteins and DNA...

  • @nbrown5907
    @nbrown5907 3 роки тому +8

    Some times discoveries are made on opposite sides of the planet with neither having a clue about the other. That lends itself more to the ethereal sheet surrounding everything type of vision. Some people do absolutely see things others cannot even comprehend I am witness to this all of the time. Maybe not genius maybe more receptive.

  • @ohfreud3981
    @ohfreud3981 3 роки тому +3

    creativity is when you invent an entire category... like eistein discovered an entire field of math. This guy is an average guy that got salty that he wasn't special.

  • @mutually_assured_destruction_

    11:16 David Lynch transcendental meditation.

  • @tone3560
    @tone3560 3 роки тому +5

    One societal problem giving to 3 people. 3 intellects they have are an average person, moderately gifted person and a genius. The average will find a few solutions for the problem, the moderately gifted will include the average persons solution and a few more. The genius will list all solutions they came up with a few the other two couldn't even fathom to see.

  • @benzell4
    @benzell4 3 роки тому +4

    Pixar was in development for years, then they hooked up with Disney, then Toy Story, etc. I am pretty sure Disney knew what they had bought into. This is the type of anecdotal that is meant to get one on the side of the story teller. Also, to my knowledge, Disney never reneged on any of those deals…
    Dang, I should have waited until the end to comment! Yankee!😷

  • @T55-e8x
    @T55-e8x 3 роки тому +5

    the problem is people telling their kids they are special.... look around you how many humans you see and tell me how special are you?

  • @mihirb9700
    @mihirb9700 3 роки тому +2

    A human and his ideas, etc., exist due to other humans
    it's just the difference in ingredients that make a dish. those ingredients may be your biology, resources, society you live in, etc.
    having such thinking just helps reduce jealousy/competition and promote learning attitude and cooperation/collaboration
    working deeply as a human and not as 'firstname lastname' which is just for superficial convenience

  • @truthseeker7041
    @truthseeker7041 3 роки тому +4

    I think Newton was genius
    James clerk maxwell too
    Einstein too...so many others.
    Ok ok they built on previous scientists but they added a lot.

  • @tebonete
    @tebonete 3 роки тому +7

    Wish he spoke about Einstein an tesla instead of the obvious brands in jobs an Edison

    • @nytehawx
      @nytehawx 3 роки тому

      Agreed because Elon Musk is not a genius or a god, just an asshole with a lot of money and luck.

  • @markfennell1167
    @markfennell1167 Рік тому +1

    8:24 is where we get intelligent woman. Talking actual brain operations. Comparing to meditation.
    Also for my personal experience this is exactly right. The best way to be creative and access genius is to shut down certain parts of the brain, at the same time putting most of your power into other regions.
    This gives a combination of super powered focus in the areas you need while being meditative regarding other types of thinking.
    I refer to this as "Being in the Zone"

  • @gamezswinger
    @gamezswinger 2 роки тому +1

    So-called geniuses are also full of contradictions. Einstein was not an exception. Nor Alan Watts. They were also victims of unjust "control."

  • @Tahycoon
    @Tahycoon 3 роки тому +1

    What if people are now saying we are all geniuses and the same, to encourage themselves?
    I think geniuses are both born and made. Einstein is a born genius. Newton is made genius. Da Vinci is a mix of born and made geniuses. So, it's a myth that we are all the same, we made that myth to feel good and have courage. And it's also a myth that they are different and unapproachable, and we made that myth to magnifie them.

  • @BayleyConkin
    @BayleyConkin 3 роки тому +5

    Issac Newton. Enough said

  • @TurinTuram
    @TurinTuram 3 роки тому +9

    I don't get the point. If "Billy" got a genius idea and need 100 persons to execute 100 specific little tasks he pre-determined himselft to build the idea. The bunch of 100 peoples are considered now geniuses? yeah, yeah...

  • @ALSeth-Storyteller
    @ALSeth-Storyteller 3 роки тому +3

    Geniuses DO exists, they're simply those who considers deeply what most people overlook and ignores.
    That's how there are geniuses and 'most people.'

  • @davelowinger7056
    @davelowinger7056 3 роки тому

    it's all in who you ride with. appreciating people that are good at what they do. Road, single track, dirt, river crossings and getting stuck.

  • @fedecarbone7657
    @fedecarbone7657 3 роки тому +2

    This is great!!! Thank you 🙏

  • @ET_LWO
    @ET_LWO Рік тому

    I would love to see an article somewhere about how a purely genius populous loses.

    • @ET_LWO
      @ET_LWO Рік тому

      What are the worst positions to put geniuses in?

  • @TheClubPlazma
    @TheClubPlazma 3 роки тому

    I like the Lady 12 : 32 Such a positive personality

  • @ftffighter
    @ftffighter 2 роки тому

    Yea, tbh there is a big problem too now where lots of gifted youth are being swept up by addiction because 1# Society shuns them and so they become anti-social 2# Economic and in some cases, socioeconomic reasons are now causing more pathways in life to have more "Risk" to be involved and the "Reward" is not worth it. 3# Parents that don't care(The lack of a certain but unconditional love is key here) and 4# The biggest and most hidden killer, medical conditions. More specifically, TBI's and Thyroid conditions that are misdiagnosed as "ADHD" and "Bi-Polar". I have been able to connect dots ever since I was a kid in a way that hardly anyone but those who could sit down with me and talk to me could understood growing up, although I wasn't autistic. I was just so socially inept. That being said, I've went through multiple TBI's, all in my frontal cortex after 3 different accidents(I got really lucky) and a decade of addiction to opioids. I'm clean now and have been trying to help other addicts change their lives. I have been clean for almost 2 years but I am probably going to die soon because I am poor, am no longer able to afford getting back and forth to my doctors and MAT/IOPtreatment, and am waiting on SSDI even though I am 29 years old because of my TBI's. I have more than a million dollars in medical bills in the past, I am still dealing with tons of issues. Despite all of this I am still able to do the weird dot connecting although other parts of my body aren't in the best of shape and so I continue. If someone wants to know the answers to addiction, the true state of what's happening on the streets, and everything else that needs to be known so that this doesn't happen to another person. I fell through the cracks, fought it all and once I won and got the job shadow I had been fighting my life towards, I decided to screw my life up because I was tired of fighting to be poor and wanted to be a heroin addict(Legit, 100% WANTED to be the best heroin addict I could be. Turns out I had a thyroid issue.), got TBI's, got clean, and now... I guess I keep fighting. Idk why I wrote this, I had to vent I guess so here are my ramblings internet. Have it at it, be free lol.

  • @ofirbenattar9508
    @ofirbenattar9508 3 роки тому +1

    Ideas come from highly creative mind (AKA “geniuses”) execution come from team effort. Yes, the idea and the execution can come from a single person but in The modern world where highly skilled people are abundant why would you want to work alone?

  • @sonkeschmidt2027
    @sonkeschmidt2027 3 роки тому +2

    Everyone is a genius. We just have the tendency to have a very narrow definition of what a genius is. Namely what hits the current trend of our evolutionary fashion and then pick the shiniest piece, ignoring all the contributing factors that where necessary for that shiny piece to come into existence. We can look at the sun and be amazed that we are alive because it exists. Does that mean we want more suns in our sky?

    • @donkey2020
      @donkey2020 3 роки тому

      But if everyone is a genius, then the whole Word loses it's meaning. I think a genius is some what different Than other people. That's
      why they might feel lonely.

    • @sonkeschmidt2027
      @sonkeschmidt2027 3 роки тому

      @@donkey2020 does it loose meaning or does it gain meaning? Look at the original meaning of genius. It's the spirit of a man (or its ancestral spirit) so in the original it already is something every man alive has within him.
      And we kill people, kill their spirit by devaluing most jobs to simple automatons without the creative spark that makes us alive.
      Think how different the world would be with a simple change in perspective. When someone who cleanes professionally or sells at McDonald's is not seen as something less worthy, something that needs to be left behind, but as something as valuable as the president of the United states. Where we don't to force people into high status jobs to get away from the "bottom" of society but truly value the ability of every individual. How much they could enrich this world, turning a basic profession into art, into something meaningful, letting everyone being "special" in their own little pocket of life, instead of having 80% of the people do jobs deeply dissatisfied, seeping into the other 15% who only do it for the money so that you are left with 5% who can actually enjoy what they are doing. And again, I'm not talking about changing all the jobs into a fairytale, where everyone can do what he fancies. I am just talking about a simple change in perspective, where we express gratitude for people who do the groundwork. So that they can add something to these jobs that breathes a "spirit" into them.
      It's not a revolution I'm talking about. It's basic psychology, changing the way we look at things. It doesn't require Jesus or some religion to do that, it's already inside us. And just like physical hygiene improved our lives massively, it's time to invest into mental hygiene. Brush your teeth for 2 minutes, that's obvious, right? I invite you to try gratitude exercises for 2 minutes a day, see how much it changes you.

    • @donkey2020
      @donkey2020 3 роки тому

      @@sonkeschmidt2027 Your perspective is kinda interesting I have to admit. My definition of genius is someone Who has a High IQ, but also very creative. These abilities allow them to think divergently. You see not everyone is like that.

    • @sonkeschmidt2027
      @sonkeschmidt2027 3 роки тому

      @@donkey2020 I see what you mean. Not everyone has an iq of 150. But I would argue that everyone can think creatively and think different. A high IQ can do this in a much broader range and does it much more frequently than the average person without a doubt. But that is useless if that specific genius doesn't get placed correctly within society. Would Einstein have been a good massage therapist?
      How many Einsteins have gone unrecognized because we misunderstood their genius?
      How many people in the right place where necessary to bring Einstein to flourish?
      Think about the cashier at the supermarket that always has a smile and a nice word for that next Einstein, encouraging him or her to really dig into what he/she loves.
      There is so much potential in humanity but we miss so many great opportunities by placing the future in the hands of a few outstandingly different people. But it's the average person that builts the future these few envision. Do you feel supported in the areas of life where you are creative? Where you can make this world a better place?

    • @donkey2020
      @donkey2020 3 роки тому

      @@sonkeschmidt2027 Good questions, I usually think of the people Who are suffering without any reason. I want to help them, but feel powerless. Maybe kindness is actually underrated.

  • @cesardejeronimo8184
    @cesardejeronimo8184 Рік тому +1

    I have to humbly disagree that geniuses occur in teamwork. There definitely are geniuses, but they are FEW in our lifetimes. A few examples Isaac newton, Albert Einstein, and Claude Shannon. I think this philosophy only applies to the corporate world.

  • @coldbattery
    @coldbattery 3 роки тому +4

    this depressing at first sight, then inspiring in the end

  • @seemadamana4884
    @seemadamana4884 3 роки тому +2

    Amazing 👏🏻👏🏻

  • @ignite1526
    @ignite1526 3 роки тому +1

    A new idea comes from an individual, not from a group.

  • @amroali8977
    @amroali8977 3 роки тому

    Nice episode

  • @sampjm1898
    @sampjm1898 3 роки тому +7

    It is like say every world you write is from a dictionary , so there is no "genius writer",every note you wrote is already exist, so there is no "genius musician" ,or because our brian has plasticity ,so everyone can have a "same" brian(the "genius" brian). that logic is ridiculous

  • @matbmp8996
    @matbmp8996 3 роки тому +3

    So this is a click bait, almost no information about genius.

  • @xandercorp6175
    @xandercorp6175 3 роки тому

    5:05 "We've never historically had a toy have any narrative for us to draw on."
    Pretty sure the Little Tin Soldier trope is more than 180 years old. What did he mean by this, exactly? Obviously there's something I'm not understanding.

    • @davidabdollahi7906
      @davidabdollahi7906 2 роки тому

      Well it was a stretch. Whenever u hear words like "never" and/or "always" u better not to consider it as a fact.

  • @abemoyo7064
    @abemoyo7064 3 роки тому +5

    Well what can you say about Leonardo da Vinci seems he was a lone inventor although, by all means he could’ve been made up all together

    • @jeremywvarietyofviewpoints3104
      @jeremywvarietyofviewpoints3104 3 роки тому

      Much of his technology doesn't work or work well.

    • @standowner6979
      @standowner6979 3 роки тому +2

      @@jeremywvarietyofviewpoints3104 That's not the point of Leonardo DaVinci.
      He thought of things and made prototypes that others didn't do. So, he was all for *innovation*, that is what separates him from many other people from the Renaissance

  • @wildwest1832
    @wildwest1832 3 роки тому +2

    Are geniuses real? yes, end of debate. People like Einstein or newton were geniuses its not even debatable. Even if they needed help from others their intelligence was in a league of its own. Most people are not ever capable of anything near their level with any amount of practice

  • @lumbratile4174
    @lumbratile4174 3 роки тому

    Would be good if the studies and research were linked...

  • @jrtaylor1275
    @jrtaylor1275 3 роки тому +1

    Great to see the conversation moving away from insidious hyper individualism which has contributed to disintegration the social fabric of the west and created an anti intellectual movement so the actual intellectuals were torn down. The education system mixed intellect up with memory and created a resentment and plethora of disturbance in the population which contributed to malignant tolerance, narcissism, truthiness and egalitarianism.

  • @memarks
    @memarks 3 роки тому +3

    I'll be honest. I do believe that most of the observations made here are valid. However I still have this sadly nagging feeling they're trying to diminish, in a dangerous way, the achievements of the individuals mentioned. It begins to sound as if anyone could do it if you tap the right part of the brain. I know about Steve Jobs. But then again I never regarded him as a genius inventor, just a producer. Einstein on the other hand.... no amount of debunking of parts of what he positted will bring him an inch closer to my level of ineptitide, however grand my general love of truth and coherence. For Christ's sake, if mankind needed to find an illusive solution to save itself from an impending catastophic calamity, don't come to me. I'd feel more comfortable if you pick a genius, then ask him if he needs help, thank you.

    • @rome8726
      @rome8726 3 роки тому

      Yes, it's not just a feeling. That's exactly what he is doing.

  • @SmiteTVnet
    @SmiteTVnet 3 роки тому +1

    This video is dissempowering.
    I think history makes it easy for us to forget the taxes and benefits of solitude in an era of mass surveillance. Of course Edison wasn't a genius, but was Tesla.
    Always be cautious of propaganda.

  • @mystery15
    @mystery15 3 роки тому

    Watching from bandipora kashmir

  • @theegreatestever2420
    @theegreatestever2420 3 роки тому

    Damn I am loving this channel and the thinking of those featured here

  • @vast634
    @vast634 3 роки тому +1

    Catering to freeriders in a team.

  • @Abell_lledA
    @Abell_lledA 3 роки тому +4

    One doesn’t experience self-transcendence, the illusion of self only dissipates🔻

  • @PulpHouseHorror
    @PulpHouseHorror 3 роки тому

    I love your talkers, great video!

  • @THE-X-Force
    @THE-X-Force 3 роки тому +1

    Ayn fkng Rand? You want to be as empowered as Ayn Rand?
    Hard to find genius with IQ like this.

  • @fotina45
    @fotina45 3 роки тому +1

    How about Newton..?

  • @angelg.s.1053
    @angelg.s.1053 3 роки тому +3

    I’ve been saying it since I was a genius (before the age of two).

  • @lexicallycorrect
    @lexicallycorrect 3 роки тому +2

    If one holds an extreme intellect and is free from kindness and compassion then the above is vain-glorious.

  • @ebusdk
    @ebusdk 3 роки тому

    Great video.. but... I don't know if it was lost in the edit, but Heather really didn't answer any of the questions asked by the host. She more or less "answered the question she wish he had asked" instead - like a politician.

  • @AnimeshSharma1977
    @AnimeshSharma1977 3 роки тому

    What does your research say about people like Ramanujan?

    • @rome8726
      @rome8726 3 роки тому

      I would love to hear that too🤣😂

    • @vimalcurio
      @vimalcurio 3 роки тому

      Discoverer like einstein

    • @angelisha6887
      @angelisha6887 3 роки тому

      Why do you guys seek for attention

  • @phoenix-wc5vx
    @phoenix-wc5vx 3 роки тому

    Since we are infinite reflections of one being, then what is a genius? When everyone sees from different angles, some people's awareness and imagination are more expanded...

  • @anthonyflores8181
    @anthonyflores8181 3 роки тому +5

    Everybody is a genius, if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree then it will believe it’s stupid, but if you judge it by its ability to swim then it’s a genius

    • @morpheus6749
      @morpheus6749 3 роки тому

      You sound like a defective product of the "everybody gets a trophy for showing up" public educational system, which has proved to be an unmitigated disaster.

  • @ltlbuddha
    @ltlbuddha 3 роки тому +1

    In my experience,¹ solutions² can come from outside the pool of experts because the outsider is not as locked into "knowing" how things work.
    ¹Obviously subjective and anecdotal
    ²Or the kernel of the idea

  • @AnyaSheven
    @AnyaSheven 3 роки тому +1

    good points! thanks

  • @TheN0odles
    @TheN0odles 3 роки тому +7

    Thomas Edison downvoted twice.

  • @SSNewberry
    @SSNewberry 2 роки тому +1

    St. Ayn Rand of the Sub-Genius. If there is a center of genius you are at the point that it is farthest from.

  • @patrickvaugn897
    @patrickvaugn897 3 роки тому +1

    I've invented items alone .. I debunk you...

  • @fafnurrottera1941
    @fafnurrottera1941 3 роки тому

    Marketing kills your creativity so much that you cannot appreciate a talking fish.

  • @steelcasegenericrun6935
    @steelcasegenericrun6935 3 роки тому

    True, but all depends who collect the data and whoever collect the data how is used and shared.

  • @manaslifeadvice2957
    @manaslifeadvice2957 3 роки тому +1

    Why .. Why is he talking about sales when it's supposed to be about genius? Did Von Neumann fundamentally do a team sport kind of thing ?

    • @manaslifeadvice2957
      @manaslifeadvice2957 3 роки тому

      @Big Think profitable and smart? Yes. Monopoly on genius definition and how they/ it functions? No

  • @dreadone6894
    @dreadone6894 3 роки тому

    9:34 alpha waves?

  • @mohammedfairoz
    @mohammedfairoz 3 роки тому

    Hard work 🤞🤞