Around 10:20 it reminds me of the whole free will question. Do I have free will? The problem isn't that there's not free will per se, it's that the you (I) that would have to exist for free will to exist as it's conceptualized is... Nowhere to be found.
The first part is exactly where I am. I have suffered a lot and very frustrated with the idea that the emotions won’t release. Almost if on cue, I resist more. I feel it happening in the body. It is a cycle of discomfort, thought about it, then more discomfort, try to get rid of it, thought, more discomfort……..then when will this end.
I call this distortion or tension. Basically, we have a desired reality and then reality. when these two don't match we have a tension in between them. Instead of focusing or even avoiding the topic, but instead looking at the distortion directly it becomes less personal and you eventually will see that this is inherently not something you want to do. Then it drops away by itself. Not by pretending you aren't feeling it, not by expressing it and making everyone else take part in it, but simply observing and once you get tired of it it will drop away.
1 + 1 is not always 2. Mathematics, in all its glorious axioms is always being subverted. For example, 1+1=2 cannot apply to drops of water. 1 drop of water added to another drop of water results in 1 drop of water. I love how you concluded this video: the question is not whether any or all beliefs are false, but what is the nature of the one who holds belief.
Angelo, your answer to the healing of trauma was EXACTLY what I had been wondering and questioning. Thank you SO much, you articulate things so beautifully, it’s a true gift. Thank you.
Thank you so much. Im reading your book, the belief chapter and woke up this morning inquiring about a top belief that makes me suffer for 30 years, I realized im running away so long to feel ashamed. So its not about the specific belief of being inferior but the core belief of being someone believing... it help a lot thank you so much. Who am i without beliefs, without past? ❤
Hi Angelo, I've had problems with people all my life with what they said or what they did, after 53 years of life, I realized it was me all a long reacting to it
Thanks for talking about the face/jaw clenchies. I've been noticing the clenchy-ness moving up my chakra areas over the past fear years since the first partial awakening. I just focus on them and they seem to do their thing, but in the face when they 'pop' or release...boy...fireworks...like samskaras releasing. Old childhood stuff seems to be ventilated. Flailing arms and yelling and whatnots. It's nice to know others go through this some physical change during the awakening process. I think Frank Yang talks about how in the end it is all just tension. Holding on. Resisting. Etc. Cheers!
This is such a common thing in insight practice. If you listen to Frank Yang you're probably aware of the Njanas or maps to insight. There are certain parts where pain like this will be strong and at the front and then at other parts it drops away only to come back when you've completed a cycle and start over. Nice to see you are able to move through it :)
Angelo! In your inspiring interview with two teachers at the Denver Zen Center, you talk passionately about your “love affair with the koan Mu”. Would you be willing to make a video in which you expand upon this and tell the story of your experience with “mu”. I just picked up your book and look forward to reading it, but am very curious about your experience with formal zen practice and how it informs your current work and teaching. Is zazen or formal meditation a daily practice for you? What is the relationship between zazen and awakening? Thank you!
Can see what you mean about the deep shadow now. Resistance has fallen away a lot and now motivation is really drying up. Even motivation to heal etc. The fact that I have emotional and physical pain is no longer a problem to be solved. It couldn't be any other way. Simultaneously there is this knowing that the healing will continue to happen though because that seems to be the natural way of things - toward healing - when the body is allowed to do what it does. But I could devolve into a drug addict and it wouldn't be a problem. I won't but, if I did, it wouldn't be a problem. If I physically died too, it wouldn't be a problem. It would be a seeming problem for those close to me though. It's a weird acceptance to find myself in. Healing and evolution or disease and devolution are equal in a way. That for me is unconditional love. It's so simple. Things couldn't be any different from how they are.
That is so good to hear, that I cannot be harmed, by emotional stuff. I had so many no go areas, so many must have needs, (craving and aversion) that plagued my life. Only just seen this as illusion.😂 so now I could do anything! I can handle it.
10:40 I'm at this place of seeing the thoughts as thoughts and detecting beliefs and this letting go into the spacious one is scary 😬 this is a very wise portion btw and I see all you're saying. Ultimately I'm in my own way and that's what's scary, to let go of that
This is tough, because I know that's true, I know what I am and I know what a thought is and it's a no-brainer to let go and there's freedom and peace, but emptiness and fear. BTW I'm now wondering if for the past like 20 years I've been playing as this false identity in this false world trying to get people to like me, to get their approval, but also suffering this a lot and suffering in general. It feels like these interactions I had were uncomfortable and false, yet I cling to them, because the mind presents them as something good, preferable, to hold onto it, I think out of fear.
The body really doesn't like that. On one side it tries to cling into the one in thoughts, but on the other side it sees that it's not it. It's like "I'm this", but then "no, wait, but that's the truth..."
It is a popular belief through science that trauma gets stored in the body when/because the system gets overwhelmed and can't process it directly. How would you look at this, Angelo? Is this view a set up for a self-fulfilling prophecy? Or is there a genuine reason to be cautious for touching into traumatic energy.
The monster under the bed that you talked about at the end of this was brilliant. And then I just had to giggle at the very last part about how that related to no self realization. 🤭
it’s funny to me when people reference mathematical statements like “1 + 1 = 2” to justify true belief. i looked at the foundations of math, the axioms, and found that they were completely made up 😂. with a little imagination, everything can be different. i think math is the stablest formal illusion, and a very useful illusion, but not objective and separate. even your deepest assumptions, that every thing must be either true or false, can be seen to be assumptions. no need to hold on. thank you angelo!
Check out Godels incompleteness theorem, basically shows that any system including a self that self references itself contradicts and negates itself. Infinity can't be bound to a system because the one referencing it isn't separate from it, it is the reference. It's all made up 😅
Thank you for clearing this up for me. I was not sure if this all was taking a toll on my nervous system. My reactions has been more of the issue here. Thank you for all your guidance. I look forward to meet you this May.
I mean that makes sense, but I've heard a lot of times that stress for example can be damaging and you also have these strong energetical responses that make you even sweat or breathe heavily
Interesting this i have suffered generalised anxiety my whole adult life,i feel that maybe its caused by not accepting of emotions and then being in the head too much and feeling frightened of how bad I was feeling maybe somatic movements is something to do with mind body connection 😮
I want to let go, but how do I do it? I close my eyes, and I want nothing more than to let go of everything, and yet I am stuck with this self. Honestly, I don't care anymore. I am done with myself. I am not suicidal, but I would be fine with not living. I say that to say, I am pretty sure I am at that level of letting go that you speak of, and yet here I am speaking from the mind and the ego. Help please lol
Angelo, why do does the new kitten of my gf miss me? Is it because I played and cuddled with her over the weekend? I'm totally lost here... Please help!
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Around 10:20 it reminds me of the whole free will question. Do I have free will?
The problem isn't that there's not free will per se, it's that the you (I) that would have to exist for free will to exist as it's conceptualized is... Nowhere to be found.
A rastafarian once said "You cant believe something and know it". Hence why direct experience transcends belief.
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The first part is exactly where I am. I have suffered a lot and very frustrated with the idea that the emotions won’t release. Almost if on cue, I resist more. I feel it happening in the body. It is a cycle of discomfort, thought about it, then more discomfort, try to get rid of it, thought, more discomfort……..then when will this end.
I call this distortion or tension. Basically, we have a desired reality and then reality. when these two don't match we have a tension in between them. Instead of focusing or even avoiding the topic, but instead looking at the distortion directly it becomes less personal and you eventually will see that this is inherently not something you want to do. Then it drops away by itself. Not by pretending you aren't feeling it, not by expressing it and making everyone else take part in it, but simply observing and once you get tired of it it will drop away.
1 + 1 is not always 2. Mathematics, in all its glorious axioms is always being subverted. For example, 1+1=2 cannot apply to drops of water. 1 drop of water added to another drop of water results in 1 drop of water. I love how you concluded this video: the question is not whether any or all beliefs are false, but what is the nature of the one who holds belief.
Angelo, your answer to the healing of trauma was EXACTLY what I had been wondering and questioning. Thank you SO much, you articulate things so beautifully, it’s a true gift. Thank you.
Thank you so much. Im reading your book, the belief chapter and woke up this morning inquiring about a top belief that makes me suffer for 30 years, I realized im running away so long to feel ashamed. So its not about the specific belief of being inferior but the core belief of being someone believing... it help a lot thank you so much. Who am i without beliefs, without past? ❤
'Ballsmasher" 🤣🤣🤣 You never fail to make me laugh Angelo. Loved this one. 💗
I'm sure his name is actually Ballsmasher69😂
One can only imagine he is a big pool player and 1969 is the year on his birth certificate lol
@@JustDontMove111 Let's hope that's what he's referring to... 😂
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I'm from the future from the year 69420 and it's rough out there
Hi Angelo, I've had problems with people all my life with what they said or what they did, after 53 years of life, I realized it was me all a long reacting to it
Awesome !
What a relief, huh?
Thanks for talking about the face/jaw clenchies. I've been noticing the clenchy-ness moving up my chakra areas over the past fear years since the first partial awakening. I just focus on them and they seem to do their thing, but in the face when they 'pop' or release...boy...fireworks...like samskaras releasing. Old childhood stuff seems to be ventilated. Flailing arms and yelling and whatnots.
It's nice to know others go through this some physical change during the awakening process. I think Frank Yang talks about how in the end it is all just tension. Holding on. Resisting. Etc.
Cheers!
This is such a common thing in insight practice. If you listen to Frank Yang you're probably aware of the Njanas or maps to insight. There are certain parts where pain like this will be strong and at the front and then at other parts it drops away only to come back when you've completed a cycle and start over.
Nice to see you are able to move through it :)
@@MartinKPettersson Thank you! Appreciate the support :)
@@BandofAdventurers You're welcome my friend.
Good luck with your practice :)
Angelo! In your inspiring interview with two teachers at the Denver Zen Center, you talk passionately about your “love affair with the koan Mu”. Would you be willing to make a video in which you expand upon this and tell the story of your experience with “mu”. I just picked up your book and look forward to reading it, but am very curious about your experience with formal zen practice and how it informs your current work and teaching. Is zazen or formal meditation a daily practice for you? What is the relationship between zazen and awakening? Thank you!
21:07 thanks for clarifying that man
Can see what you mean about the deep shadow now. Resistance has fallen away a lot and now motivation is really drying up. Even motivation to heal etc. The fact that I have emotional and physical pain is no longer a problem to be solved. It couldn't be any other way. Simultaneously there is this knowing that the healing will continue to happen though because that seems to be the natural way of things - toward healing - when the body is allowed to do what it does. But I could devolve into a drug addict and it wouldn't be a problem. I won't but, if I did, it wouldn't be a problem. If I physically died too, it wouldn't be a problem. It would be a seeming problem for those close to me though. It's a weird acceptance to find myself in. Healing and evolution or disease and devolution are equal in a way. That for me is unconditional love. It's so simple. Things couldn't be any different from how they are.
That is so good to hear, that I cannot be harmed, by emotional stuff. I had so many no go areas, so many must have needs, (craving and aversion) that plagued my life. Only just seen this as illusion.😂 so now I could do anything! I can handle it.
Thanks for this, 🎯♥😶 🙏☮ wishing love, grace, courage and understanding for all.
10:40 I'm at this place of seeing the thoughts as thoughts and detecting beliefs and this letting go into the spacious one is scary 😬 this is a very wise portion btw and I see all you're saying. Ultimately I'm in my own way and that's what's scary, to let go of that
This is tough, because I know that's true, I know what I am and I know what a thought is and it's a no-brainer to let go and there's freedom and peace, but emptiness and fear. BTW I'm now wondering if for the past like 20 years I've been playing as this false identity in this false world trying to get people to like me, to get their approval, but also suffering this a lot and suffering in general. It feels like these interactions I had were uncomfortable and false, yet I cling to them, because the mind presents them as something good, preferable, to hold onto it, I think out of fear.
The body really doesn't like that. On one side it tries to cling into the one in thoughts, but on the other side it sees that it's not it. It's like "I'm this", but then "no, wait, but that's the truth..."
It is a popular belief through science that trauma gets stored in the body when/because the system gets overwhelmed and can't process it directly. How would you look at this, Angelo? Is this view a set up for a self-fulfilling prophecy? Or is there a genuine reason to be cautious for touching into traumatic energy.
It got stuck there because of the lies perpetuated on us about who we are.
The monster under the bed that you talked about at the end of this was brilliant. And then I just had to giggle at the very last part about how that related to no self realization. 🤭
Ya, what is that monster in relation to the no self that is "fearing" it. Right.
Yes!
Belief, the word alone tells me more about the issue at hand, or rather in the noggin'.
I love it! These videos are awesome. The ending was perfect, and my favorite part. 😆 Thank you.
Thank you Angelo. Love ❤ your answering on the belief question! Cleared up my long term doubts as well.
it’s funny to me when people reference mathematical statements like “1 + 1 = 2” to justify true belief. i looked at the foundations of math, the axioms, and found that they were completely made up 😂. with a little imagination, everything can be different. i think math is the stablest formal illusion, and a very useful illusion, but not objective and separate. even your deepest assumptions, that every thing must be either true or false, can be seen to be assumptions. no need to hold on. thank you angelo!
exactly
Check out Godels incompleteness theorem, basically shows that any system including a self that self references itself contradicts and negates itself. Infinity can't be bound to a system because the one referencing it isn't separate from it, it is the reference. It's all made up 😅
Where did that 1 come from xD
Thank you, Angelo.
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Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. ... Yes!!!!!
How you deal with suppressed anger, ressentmentents, aggressions? Thank you very much!
Kind words. Thank you
Very welcome
Thank you for clearing this up for me. I was not sure if this all was taking a toll on my nervous system. My reactions has been more of the issue here. Thank you for all your guidance. I look forward to meet you this May.
I mean that makes sense, but I've heard a lot of times that stress for example can be damaging and you also have these strong energetical responses that make you even sweat or breathe heavily
Profoundly helpful thank you 💜🙏
A subject of a thought is in a thought
Interesting this i have suffered generalised anxiety my whole adult life,i feel that maybe its caused by not accepting of emotions and then being in the head too much and feeling frightened of how bad I was feeling maybe somatic movements is something to do with mind body connection 😮
Are there still preferences after no-self realization? Why would there (not) be?
Beliefs are a container for uncertainty…
I love this format 👌
beautiful
We are animals with the capability of beliefs. Yes, beliefs are all literally false. Belief systems were created for comfort, ultimately.
Beliefs bend Awareness around and tie in knots.
Beliefs like opinions are not based on fact.
Do you need to be able to Identify individual beliefs to let them go?
but how can you know a thought from not being a thought without having a thought ? maybe im not understanding
I want to let go, but how do I do it? I close my eyes, and I want nothing more than to let go of everything, and yet I am stuck with this self. Honestly, I don't care anymore. I am done with myself. I am not suicidal, but I would be fine with not living. I say that to say, I am pretty sure I am at that level of letting go that you speak of, and yet here I am speaking from the mind and the ego. Help please lol
Damn this was good.
How do you "like" again?😍😊
Well well, this all makes sense now. 🤨
Thanks :)
When does Angelo do these live QnA’s?
I think videos like this are more like where he answers comments under videos and questions emailed in , I think.
@@FetterMuncher666 oh yeah. I can tell know. That’s awesome. Does he do them on a specific day and time or just random live. Or maybe it’s not live?
He mentions TRE. What is that?
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Angelo, why do does the new kitten of my gf miss me? Is it because I played and cuddled with her over the weekend? I'm totally lost here... Please help!
how do you know it misses you?
@@SimplyAlwaysAwakemy gf told me it's meowing and looking for me on my side of the bed ^^
@@manso306it must love you
I guess so! I love it too, so much ❤
Yeoooowzerrr!!!!
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Do you eat meat?
He mentions TRE. What is that?