The Lighthouse: An American Myth

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    Guys, The Lighthouse blew me away. I loved The Witch but this was even better. Eggers is a real director to follow. I can't wait to see what he does next. So sorry I haven't uploaded in so long. I'll have a video up soon addressing that. Big things are on the way!
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  • @finechina1977
    @finechina1977 4 роки тому +2810

    Wake is something of a scientist himself

  • @blopdolf7365
    @blopdolf7365 4 роки тому +2327

    Idk man this is just the flapjack show going even crazier

    • @TheKinoCorner
      @TheKinoCorner  4 роки тому +85

      There’s a great video on that. I forgot who made it but it’s somewhere here on UA-cam

    • @blopdolf7365
      @blopdolf7365 4 роки тому +44

      The Kino Corner yeah I know altarnatehistoryhub’s second channel did it

    • @ayllipkhieu8659
      @ayllipkhieu8659 4 роки тому +5

      Blop Dolf what’s the vid called🙌

    • @stefanebner112
      @stefanebner112 4 роки тому +32

      @@ayllipkhieu8659 An intellectual perspective on "Flapjack"

    • @RNJ142
      @RNJ142 4 роки тому +2

      @@blopdolf7365 Knowledge hub

  • @MyCovertNarcissism
    @MyCovertNarcissism 4 роки тому +2664

    David Lynch cries at night because this isn't his movie.

    • @gorehound3414
      @gorehound3414 4 роки тому +72

      Eraser head >>>>>>>>>> lighthouse

    • @FireFortProductions
      @FireFortProductions 4 роки тому +101

      VIO SCHOOL eraserhead overrated af

    • @gorehound3414
      @gorehound3414 4 роки тому +87

      albi it’s not but you can have your opinion

    • @hopelessent.1700
      @hopelessent.1700 4 роки тому +23

      albi not really. Nobody talks about it. I have it but I know the 5 yr development of the film must have been hell...

    • @hopelessent.1700
      @hopelessent.1700 4 роки тому +46

      Nah I think he’s glad that it isn’t. Besides Lynch is more vague than The Lighthouse.

  • @Burrick
    @Burrick 4 роки тому +1170

    So it's either:
    Purgatory
    A curse coming true
    Two Greek mythological figures just chillin
    One guy going insane
    One guy's dying dream
    Or teo dudes losing their goddamn minds.
    Wow I love how open ended this film is.

    • @marcogianesello6083
      @marcogianesello6083 3 роки тому +7

      actually, it's none of these

    • @MadMaXXXim
      @MadMaXXXim 3 роки тому +1

      Marco Gianesello So what is it ?

    • @marcogianesello6083
      @marcogianesello6083 3 роки тому +10

      @@MadMaXXXim one guy, already kind of unstable from the get go, having his walls demolished by the stress of the situation and his state of mind going out of control, while at the same time being two people opposing each other as a coping mechanism for his inner conflict and desires, in this movie the distinction between what's real and what's psychological or symbolic is essentially meaningless, since eberything is filtered so brilliantly through the main character's perspective so there is not much of a point in trying to pin down what happens externally on that island, the reality of the movie is all that matters, as far as i know, we never even see the actual main character, howard and wake are both parts of him, although howard is much more likely to be the actual person and wake the construct

    • @xipetotek8216
      @xipetotek8216 3 роки тому +66

      @@marcogianesello6083 lol that’s not the answer either

    • @marcogianesello6083
      @marcogianesello6083 3 роки тому +1

      @@xipetotek8216 not necessarily, but yeah it is

  • @chasehimmelman188
    @chasehimmelman188 4 роки тому +701

    They filmed this shit in Nova Scotia Defoe came to one of our superstores and bought Cheerios

    • @VanezArt
      @VanezArt 4 роки тому +13

      cool story bro

    • @MalcolmReviews
      @MalcolmReviews 4 роки тому +82

      I guess he was tired of eating his lobster

    • @Erick---
      @Erick--- 4 роки тому +4

      stayHIGHplease good one ☝️🤣

    • @1headphoneguy
      @1headphoneguy 3 роки тому +7

      He said in an interview he loved the “cute fishing village” he stayed in during filming

    • @hr0727
      @hr0727 2 роки тому +2

      Lmao right? I saw him too while they filming, it’s crazy how diligent Willem is

  • @DeepEye1994
    @DeepEye1994 4 роки тому +1832

    Eggers said that he's not interested in making a modern day-set story, but he could someday make a post-apocalyptic story in a technologically regressed future, I can totally see him doing something in the vein of "Stalker".

    • @TheKinoCorner
      @TheKinoCorner  4 роки тому +139

      Bringing up Stalker... Might be a video in the near future...

    • @DeepEye1994
      @DeepEye1994 4 роки тому +9

      @@TheKinoCorner I'll definitely check it out since I liked your analysis here! If only there was a way I could be notified of the release of the Stalker analysis... ;)
      *subscribes*

    • @Landonias
      @Landonias 4 роки тому +15

      DeepEye1994 I have no mouth and I must scream

    • @usmanjaved4449
      @usmanjaved4449 4 роки тому +20

      I get Bergman/Tarkovsky vibes from Eggers movies, could be great actually.

    • @zachsutton9866
      @zachsutton9866 4 роки тому +2

      Good I love his style and it's impressive how quickly and easily he established it

  • @dombovver
    @dombovver 4 роки тому +1110

    How long have we been reading these comments? 5 days, 2 minutes? Help me to recollect.

    • @blackberry8615
      @blackberry8615 4 роки тому +7

      Thomas Wake OMG ITS WAKE

    • @dorkle9085
      @dorkle9085 4 роки тому +19

      HAAAAARK!

    • @randomname8778
      @randomname8778 4 роки тому +10

      Ye like my lobster?

    • @s.h1434
      @s.h1434 4 роки тому +7

      You’re fond me of lobster, ain’t ye?

    • @randomname8778
      @randomname8778 4 роки тому +12

      @@s.h1434 Haaaaark! Hark, Triton! Hark!
      Bellow, bid our father, the sea king, rise from the depths, full foul
      in his fury, black waves teeming with salt-foam, to smother
      this young mouth with pungent slim
      … to choke ye, engorging your organs till ye turn blue and
      bloated with bilge and brine and can scream no more…
      only when he, crowned in cockle shells with
      slithering tentacled tail and steaming beard,
      take up his fell, be-finnèd arm - his coral-tined trident
      screeches banshee-like in the tempest and plunges right through yer gullet,
      bursting ye, a bulging bladder no more,
      but a blasted bloody film now - a nothing
      for the Harpies and the souls of dead sailors to peck and claw and feed
      upon only to be lapped up and swallowed by the infinite waters of
      the dread emperor himself…
      forgotten to any man, to any time, forgotten to any god or devil,
      forgotten even to the sea… for any stuff or part of Winslow, even
      any scantling of your soul, is Winslow no more, but is now itself
      the sea.

  • @ThisShitIsDumbAndYouKnow
    @ThisShitIsDumbAndYouKnow 4 роки тому +646

    "Order and chaos"
    *Shows both of them guzzling down alcohol"

  • @Vindicator12Music
    @Vindicator12Music 4 роки тому +700

    this movie shoulda won a TON of awards at the Academy..... it's criminal that it didn't

    • @EyeShotFirst
      @EyeShotFirst 4 роки тому +68

      The Academy is a joke, and I stopped taking stock in anything praised by them.

    • @nate742
      @nate742 4 роки тому +6

      @@EyeShotFirst Parasite??

    • @tigerburn81
      @tigerburn81 4 роки тому +38

      Sorry, but the hypocritical millionaires that vote love a good social commentary about oppressed social classes . . . and movies about Hollywood.

    • @EyeShotFirst
      @EyeShotFirst 4 роки тому +29

      @@nate742 I'm not saying that they don't occasionally get things right. Amadeus deserved every Oscar it got...but more often than not, they shine a light on garbage, when a real masterpiece like The Lighthouse is completely ignored.

    • @AlexA-qc9os
      @AlexA-qc9os 4 роки тому +6

      Nate parasite was amazing but he was trying to say they don’t acknowledge other films just the same old plain shitty movies like explain how adam sandler got fucking robbed uncut gems was just amazing

  • @ryandozier8053
    @ryandozier8053 4 роки тому +745

    Does anyone else find the scariest scene to be when Tommy walks his “dog?” No? Take a look outside. After their brawl, the sea is calm and the day is clear. The tender is very much on its way.

    • @ryandozier8053
      @ryandozier8053 4 роки тому +112

      (ALSO, in the shot where Eggers emulates the Hypnos painting- Tommy is on top of the lighthouse. He grabs onto a body laid out on the observation deck, it’s himself: only he’s wearing Winslow’s soaked sweater. Thomas, still holding onto himself is then grabbed by a naked Wake who shines bright lights directly into his eyes- just a really cleaver way to show off the judgment facing Thomas for the murder of Ephraim Winslow? That scene keeps bringing me back.)
      - fantastic analysis! So many small details are fun to ponder, then there’s just the fact that they sip turpentine and honey. Wake slugs the mix down, goes on and exclaims- “MONKEY PUMP!” tremendous.

    • @too_legit_to_be_fit
      @too_legit_to_be_fit 4 роки тому +54

      Do you think he really dragged him out as a dog and buried him alive or was it a hallucination and he just dragged out a dead body

    • @ryandozier8053
      @ryandozier8053 4 роки тому +40

      Too_legit _to_be Personally? I think he must’ve been alive yeah? Unless he imagines the axe to the arm? The lighthouse leaves too many possibilities

    • @Spongebrain97
      @Spongebrain97 4 роки тому +35

      Yeah it's because finally Tommy is the master. The whole movie Thomas makes him do menial tasks that men at the time would otherwise make their wives do and how he is looked down upon as being unworthy of the light. Then he finally takes control and makes thomas his bitch ( dog ).

    • @jonobrow
      @jonobrow 4 роки тому +3

      Don't understand what you're getting at here. It's the scariest scene because the storm is over?

  • @shrinewitch
    @shrinewitch 4 роки тому +724

    An American Myth: Based on a Welsh true story & Greek Mythology.

    • @TheKinoCorner
      @TheKinoCorner  4 роки тому +120

      A lot of us Americans are a mix of a bunch of nationalities, so it fits!

    • @monicajewinsky
      @monicajewinsky 4 роки тому +76

      Indeed.
      The myth of Prometheus:
      The thieving Titan that stole the gift of Fire from the Gods, and gifted it to humanity, only to be tied to a rock and mutilated by an Eagle for the rest of eternity.
      And the story of Smalls Lighthouse:
      In 1801, 20 miles off the coast of Wales, two men, Thomas Howell and Thomas Griffith, were on duty in the Lighthouse, when Griffith died suddenly in a random, freak accident. Howell, terrified at being accused of his murder, attempted to cover up the accident, and subsequently went insane.

    • @OddLittleThing
      @OddLittleThing 4 роки тому +6

      Makes sense, modern America is composite culture and nation

    • @en6853
      @en6853 4 роки тому +3

      Psycho I had no idea about the true part. Thank you for sharing

    • @Ten_Thousand_Locusts
      @Ten_Thousand_Locusts 4 роки тому +14

      @@TheKinoCorner no it fucking doesn't, stop trying to co-opt this story.

  • @SAKOKAIAS
    @SAKOKAIAS 4 роки тому +314

    Thomas Wake: You know, I'm something of a lighthouse keeper myself.

    • @huntrofyou
      @huntrofyou 4 роки тому +17

      Ye know, I's something of a wickie meself

    • @s.h1434
      @s.h1434 4 роки тому +2

      Lol, this is gold!

    • @legogeneralgrievous4218
      @legogeneralgrievous4218 3 роки тому +1

      I missed the part where that's my problem

  • @Etaiin
    @Etaiin 4 роки тому +171

    8:19 the bird i think is supposed to be soul of the old assistant, this explains why the bird is constantly trying to get his attention and annoy him, Young Thomas is told to get oil to refill the lamp and the bird/assistant knows that this will bring thomas closer to the light, so the bird guards and blocks his path. Old Thomas telling young Thomas that "it's bad luck to kill a seabird" can be taken so literally here also, the bird was his only warning.

    • @hawkeyenextgen7117
      @hawkeyenextgen7117 4 роки тому +6

      What confuses me was how Thomas Howard killed the seagull without hesitation and in such a murderous manner knowing it would be bad luck.

    • @fruitbythebecbec7165
      @fruitbythebecbec7165 3 роки тому +12

      @@hawkeyenextgen7117 i don't think he believed it would actually be bad luck. i think he thought Tom was just going on about random shit

    • @batjackattack5556
      @batjackattack5556 2 роки тому +1

      and the bird has one eye

  • @axinomancy
    @axinomancy 4 роки тому +618

    Old Thomas references Poseidon at multiple times and (spoiler alert) appears as Poseidon at one point. He visits the lens privately multiple times and can apparently glimpse something heavenly in it, but isn't judged, as Young Thomas is. Perhaps that is because he represents pre-Christian pagan beliefs like the Greek pantheon. These virtuous pagans are not permitted to enter heaven, but reside in the first circle of Hell, according to Dante. In Dante, those in the first circle of Hell, Limbo, are not punished, but basically live their afterlives as they expected in the Greek pantheon. As another author wrote, "Their only punishment is that they now know that there is something higher - the true Paradise - but have no hope of ever attaining it." That would fall in line with Old Thomas's obsession with the lens, his only glimpse of true Paradise as representing these pre-Christian pagans through Poseidon. And Young Thomas's fate when approaching Paradise while unworthy.

    • @kgpspyguy
      @kgpspyguy 4 роки тому +49

      That's an interesting take actually.

    • @Spongebrain97
      @Spongebrain97 4 роки тому +31

      I think we should go back to worshipping the old gods

    • @kgpspyguy
      @kgpspyguy 4 роки тому +23

      @@Spongebrain97
      N O W E S H O U L D N O T

    • @Spongebrain97
      @Spongebrain97 4 роки тому +17

      @@kgpspyguy yeah they're cool and the mythology is overall better than christian mythology. Zeus doesn't pretend to be an all loving god like the christian god who contradicts himself at every turn. And zeus is a straight up G who will take your wife if you offend him so that's pretty cool. And everything goes to hades so people who don't follow the same religions but are still morally good would be in the higher levels of the underworld

    • @Spongebrain97
      @Spongebrain97 4 роки тому +1

      @@kgpspyguy when trump let's loose the nukes and the fallout survivors forget about christianity and the newer religions, the old Greek, Norse, and Egyptian religions could become widespread again lol

  • @grndragon7777777
    @grndragon7777777 4 роки тому +220

    The part where the old man talks about how all this could be a dream in his head and he could be actually back in Canada freezing to death. Instead of freezing in Canada he was actually dying on the rocks being plucked at by birds

    • @hawkeyenextgen7117
      @hawkeyenextgen7117 4 роки тому +37

      In the ending shot, the lighthouse is gone. This may suggest that all that happened what Thomas Howard’s mental purgatory, where he wasn’t given sweet release and was on that rock right from the start.

    • @redact2186
      @redact2186 2 роки тому

      This is in New England

    • @jonathanbhatty8592
      @jonathanbhatty8592 2 роки тому +2

      @@redact2186 True but the film was filmed in Nova Scotia.

  • @karma1185
    @karma1185 4 роки тому +172

    This movie deserves hour long analysis about themes and symbols its so good hope u do more analysis videos on this movie

    • @TheKinoCorner
      @TheKinoCorner  4 роки тому +7

      Man if making an hour long video essay was viable for me right now, I would. I'll definitely go more in depth with it in a podcast I'm going to be doing soon, which will be on this channel.

  • @evn2787
    @evn2787 4 роки тому +119

    my theory is that light is heaven and wake is sort of a reaper and judges whether a Winslow should or should not enter the heaven and in the end, Winslow has enough and kills the reaper and for his lust of heaven and chooses this shortcut to heaven, in the end, he finds the light and the heaven judges him and deems him unworthy thus leaving him to die

    • @TheKinoCorner
      @TheKinoCorner  4 роки тому +33

      Yes and so the fall down the stairs can be seen as falling from Heaven to Hell. Wake could manifest himself as many different things or people because he appears different to everyone. To me, he’s the guardian of the light but it’s tragic because he can bask in the light yet never move on.

    • @XDarkBrotherhoodHD
      @XDarkBrotherhoodHD 4 роки тому +2

      This one makes the most sense

    • @buckwang5039
      @buckwang5039 4 роки тому

      makes me think of sisyphus

    • @hawkeyenextgen7117
      @hawkeyenextgen7117 4 роки тому

      The light is not only salvation, it is also judgement.

  • @derekday3896
    @derekday3896 4 роки тому +197

    The Prometheus and Proteus parallels run just on the surface of the story, but the two most overlooked characters in the movie I believe are the Mermaid, and the Light itself, "Veritas", as she is called by old man Thomas Wake in the script.
    In the ancient Greek myths, Prometheus steals fire from Zeus and gives it to man, who Prometheus loved. So Zeus creates a multi-layerd plan of punishment for Prometheus, first by creating Pandora. Pandora is created out of clay by Zeus as the first woman. She is given a box which she is forbidden to open lest she doom mankind. Of course, out of her own curiosity she curses man with death and disease.
    I believe then that Pandora has similarities to the mermaid, as she ultimately curses Ephraim and turns him mad. Not to mention the mermaid is made out of clay and is most likely planted by the old man. When Ephraim breaks the mermaid, he opens Pandora's box, but ironically believes that he is "free from the designs" when in fact he was doomed to be punished from the start.
    In another story told by Aesop, Prometheus creates Veritas, Goddess of Truth, out of clay. When Prometheus leaves his shop, his apprentice Dolos, a trickster, is so enchanted by Veritas, he decides to create an exact replica of her out of clay. He is so successful that he almost makes an identical copy, but runs out of time before Prometheus returns, leaving the feet of the fake incomplete. Prometheus confused by what he sees, has both of them walk towards him. Veritas, truth, stands upright while the fake trips over and beaks apart. The moral is that Truth reveals itself in time while lies fall apart.
    One other interesting note about the Light itself is that what Ephraim most likely finds in the light is a mirror! These where how lighthouses were constructed back then and would also run with the theme of Truth.

    • @lasagnatitty2071
      @lasagnatitty2071 4 роки тому +5

      Derek Day how did u learn so much about Greek mythology bro

    • @derekday3896
      @derekday3896 4 роки тому +4

      @@lasagnatitty2071 read it online lol

    • @lasagnatitty2071
      @lasagnatitty2071 4 роки тому +2

      Derek Day I bet that some culture somewhere has a version of that story with different people and things

    • @escopiliatese3623
      @escopiliatese3623 4 роки тому +6

      It wasn’t made out of the clay, but ivory - it was scrimshaw.

    • @hawkeyenextgen7117
      @hawkeyenextgen7117 4 роки тому +5

      What Thomas Howard finds in the light is a mirror. That sounds way more symbolic than it should. I read somewhere that the light wasn’t salvation at all, it was judgement. The light mirrored all that Thomas had done, judged him for his sins, all while he tried to touch the fabric of the divine, and it was too much. Thus, like Lucifer he was cast down and damned.

  • @chillemdafoe5938
    @chillemdafoe5938 4 роки тому +130

    My friend said something about how the clocks must be important due to the focus on them in certain scenes

    • @jonartscc968
      @jonartscc968 4 роки тому +23

      Also because Tommy smashes it after finding the log book

  • @RomanHoltwick1
    @RomanHoltwick1 4 роки тому +158

    When I watched it I thought about it in a jungian way:
    Wake is awake, enlightened
    Howard is a coward, he tries taking the short cut to the light (enlightenment) and not earn his way up.

    • @christiananderson4909
      @christiananderson4909 4 роки тому +2

      Agreed.

    • @ryanmims9110
      @ryanmims9110 4 роки тому +15

      This is exactly how I saw the the film. There's definitely other meanings you can derive from it, but overall the story is about a young, brash man with a mentor that he essentially doesn't respect; as a result he gets his comeuppance for not adhering to his mentor's teachings. We still relate to the anger and arrogance of the young man, because the mentor has obviously lost his mind, and is obviously emotionally manipulative, but his mentor does have a reason for some of the things he's doing (regarding being a lighthouse keeper), and at the end of the story the arrogant young man still isn't ready to work the light.

    • @RomanHoltwick1
      @RomanHoltwick1 4 роки тому +3

      @@ryanmims9110 Yes! Also having to work for wisdom is a big part. I don't know who said it but: "Be wary of unearned wisdom"

    • @ralusek
      @ralusek 4 роки тому +1

      @@RomanHoltwick1 Lol. That's funny that you don't know who said that, because you're responding in a thread that said that they thought the movie was structured in a Jungian way. Jungian = according to the philosophies of Carl Jung, the very person that said the quote you referenced.

    • @RomanHoltwick1
      @RomanHoltwick1 4 роки тому +1

      @@ralusek Yes, I started the thread. Just forgot the quote also was by him. :D

  • @jakewestfall1634
    @jakewestfall1634 4 роки тому +6

    I like the idea that the light is.... nothing. All the paranoid delusions, the midnight visits to see what Wake was up to, the vast amounts of alcohol consumed, all to find that the light was just that.

  • @alexmehnert8482
    @alexmehnert8482 4 роки тому +11

    He screamed because he saw nothing or everything in the light. Either way it can make a man goes insane.

  • @skylarjon3464
    @skylarjon3464 3 роки тому +3

    The scream is Thomas looking into the light and seeing nothing at all. Just a light. He killed the only other person on the island for absolutely nothing and his reaction is his last semblance of sanity being torn from him

  • @mynamesjared3427
    @mynamesjared3427 4 роки тому +23

    Trying to find imperfections on Robert Pattinson's face must have been hard asf

  • @Jared_Wignall
    @Jared_Wignall 4 роки тому +175

    The Lighthouse is my favorite film of 2019. I really love everything about it. This analysis is incredible. And while awards don’t mean too much these days, I do wish the film was acknowledged for more awards, such as at the Academy Awards. I think it should have been up for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Original Screenplay, Best Actor for Pattinson, Best Supporting Actor for Dafoe, Best Original Score, Best Editing, Best Production Design, Best Costume Design and Best Hair and Makeup in addition to its nomination for Best Cinematography.
    While it might not have won many of the awards I listed if nominated for them, I defiantly believe the film should have been acknowledged for more awards than just Cinematography. The cinematography is fantastic, yet there are so many other incredible things about the film that could have been acknowledged. Though, awards like the Oscars often don’t recognize some of the very best films of the year either at all or for just one or two awards these days. I’m sure this film will be remembered for years to come. While many are praising it as a masterpiece now, I have a feeling the reception will grow as time goes on. Thank you for this video man. Keep up the great work!

    • @claricetreml9890
      @claricetreml9890 4 роки тому +8

      I wish the film was nominated at least for Best Supporting Actor, Dafoe was so amazing. It's a shame.

    • @benschmitt7035
      @benschmitt7035 4 роки тому +2

      Honestly i think it's because it didn't have an Oscar campaign at all, which are very important to keep a movie in consideration. Its truly unfortunate that this movie was forgotten

    • @jello4479
      @jello4479 4 роки тому +1

      @@benschmitt7035 I imagine Robert Eggers, at this stage in his career, doesn't care much for the Academy. He definitely comes across as someone who wouldn't be inclined to participate in the hand shaking and ass kissing that comes along with an awards campaign. It's a shame since Dafoe should've been a shoo-in for a supporting actor nomination.

    • @nelisezpasce
      @nelisezpasce 4 роки тому +2

      Robert Eggers' wikipedia entry doesn't seem to have an "Early Life" if you know what I mean. Just like how Paul Thomas Anderson has been recognized by other circles other than the Oscars... Could it be because he's not jewish?

    • @jello4479
      @jello4479 4 роки тому +2

      @@nelisezpasce every single time

  • @ryanfiasconaro6583
    @ryanfiasconaro6583 4 роки тому +92

    I’m a simple man. I see The Lighthouse, I click

  • @lombremic4840
    @lombremic4840 2 роки тому +3

    Why does every experimental movie have to be reduced down to a heaven/hell metaphor

  • @Mrcool210
    @Mrcool210 2 роки тому +13

    The first time I saw this movie I interpreted it as a sort of history repeating itself story. That the light was magical and had driven wake crazy in the past. To the point that he killed his "second" but it wasn't his second. The one eyed man was in the same position wake was in now, and wake killed him when he was just an assistant like Winslow. And now History has come to repeat itself with Winslow killing wake and taking his place as the one the lighthouse deems worthy to protect it.
    And then the last shot happened and ruined it :(

  • @michaelday5381
    @michaelday5381 3 роки тому +15

    The fact that he matched “the aesthetic” with Tommy throwing poo on himself. Nice one

  • @cascojeronimo
    @cascojeronimo 4 роки тому +72

    Saw it (second viewing) with my girlfriend last night. And we have a theory, maybe it's too crazy, but it's the way we understand it.
    Thomas Wake doesn't exist as a human being. He's the lighthouse, he's trying to turn T. Howard mad. And that's the fight between the only two carachters: The Lighthouse and Thomas Howard. It's madness in his pure essence. The face of that one eye man in the lobster pot that T. Howard see is almost the same of Dafoe. So maybe Dafoe was a lighthouse keeper in the past.
    But, this is just our own theory, not the truth. Because there's no truth or correct answers in this masterpiece.
    I think The Lighthouse it's "The Shining's of the 21st century."

    • @TheKinoCorner
      @TheKinoCorner  4 роки тому +10

      That would make sense as an interpretation. I didn't notice that the head was the same as Dafoe's. It could also would make sense because of the dream in which the light comes from Wake's eyes. But just as Wake could be the Lighthouse, the lighthouse could be something ethereal, rather than real. A feeling or a state of being, rather than a place. It could all be one entity and Wake is a phantom. I love how open ended it is because it ensures I'm entertained every time I watch it.

  • @aleceastman
    @aleceastman 4 роки тому +27

    the way you said juxtaposition shocked me for a sec

  • @jrogers5152
    @jrogers5152 4 роки тому +8

    Man just imagine if more Directors put as much effort into their craft like Eggers.... it really is the attention to detail that makes The Lighthouse shine and I absolutely loved it!

  • @OrdinaryThings
    @OrdinaryThings 4 роки тому +13

    This is good stuff man. Really like the chill analysis .

  • @rhythmoriented
    @rhythmoriented 4 роки тому +10

    You, sir, nailed it with this video. I note several of Eggers’ personal reflections referenced in his Director narrative and interviews. Thank you for distilling down numerous essential elements into a relatively short video essay.

  • @superheroedits1315
    @superheroedits1315 4 роки тому +1

    A very clear, short, and in depth film analysis. Very glad your channel was recommended to me, you deserve more subscribers.

  • @jgfear
    @jgfear 4 роки тому +25

    My theory: what if younger “ Thomas “ just Imagined the whole thing ? And the older “ Thomas Wake “ was a hallucination? Up until the point he dies being pecked to death ? What if younger “ Thomas “ is in hell for his crimes ? Insert “ Twilight Zone “ theme here . My head hurts thinking about it.

    • @jrogers5152
      @jrogers5152 4 роки тому

      I was thinking most of these theories for days after seeing it 😂 I love how many theories their are to it and nothing is spoon fed to us, so good!

    • @hawkeyenextgen7117
      @hawkeyenextgen7117 4 роки тому +1

      Well, it’s possible that the lighthouse is Thomas Howard’s mental purgatory. Take not that in the final shot, the entire lighthouse is gone, suggesting that Howard was lying on the rocks from the start. Wake was his conscience, his ego, a twisted reflection of himself, a guide.The moment Howard kills a gull, he spirals down insanity. The last straw is when he kills wake to reach the light, desperate for salvation, but only found judgement. What he exactly saw is unknown, but it was enough to break his mind entirely. Thus he is cast down and is damned to have the gulls continue to peck at him.

    • @sskspartan
      @sskspartan 3 роки тому

      more like insert Twilight lol

    • @missconstruct6968
      @missconstruct6968 3 роки тому

      The ending shows Tommy dying outside with no lighthouse and a large pile of wood behind him; earlier in the movie, Wake brings up the idea that he might be dreaming the entire lighthouse up while dying in Nova Scotia
      So who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • @SwaggBae
    @SwaggBae 4 роки тому +7

    8:18 Upon my second viewing, the sea bird definitely had one eye. Truly one of the most amazing films I’ve seen in the last year.

  • @elisadaniel9516
    @elisadaniel9516 4 роки тому +46

    Yesssss!! Such a beautiful film. Your analysis is on point :)

  • @moviemaniac1838
    @moviemaniac1838 4 роки тому +11

    I never thought about the last shot being out of order- that's a really neat idea I like it =)

  • @MadamFoogie
    @MadamFoogie 4 роки тому +11

    Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner.

  • @lukebingus9432
    @lukebingus9432 4 роки тому +9

    probably the best Essay ive seen on The Lighthouse so far, im shocked that you dont have more Subs. I'll be givin yer vids a watch from now on bruther!!!! keep up the great work!

  • @MarkArandjus
    @MarkArandjus 4 роки тому +24

    There is only one interpretation of this film that is incorrect -> the one you think is the definitive one.

  • @BanditoBurrito
    @BanditoBurrito 4 роки тому +7

    He’s one of my new favorite directors, it’s cool to see New England culture depicted in the mainstream for a bit

  • @NewSideFilms
    @NewSideFilms 4 роки тому +18

    You deserve way more subscribers and views my man, keep going and your time will come. Great job!

    • @jonathanheidenreich8565
      @jonathanheidenreich8565 4 роки тому

      Was just scrolling down to say the same thing, criminally underviewed analysis. Great work.

  • @nyvl3
    @nyvl3 4 роки тому +24

    I love that idea, American Myth as a genre of films. Thats a really great way to categorize this film, it fits it perfectly. In the same way, The Witch could also fit in there too.

    • @TheKinoCorner
      @TheKinoCorner  4 роки тому +1

      I think it’s a genre that will become bigger and bigger as the American empire declines and we look back on the life and ideals of the country and try to forge an identity moving forward. It’s too complicated for a comment but maybe that’ll be a video down the line.

    • @GuilhermeTobal5150
      @GuilhermeTobal5150 4 роки тому +4

      @@TheKinoCorner Modern myth or something like that would be a better way to call it. Lighthouse itself has nothing to do with "America", or USA as one should call it, the setting and characters are foreing and the themes universal. The director is american all right, but a film is way more than it's director. It's kinda like saying spaghetti westerns are "Italians stories" because they're made mainly by italians, they are american stories told by italians. Western frontiers and outlaws were never part of the italian history.
      And, of course, cinema as a whole is already too USA/english-centered as it is. "American myth" is to exclusive, I think. Just my take on it, as a non-american. Loved the video, btw! The whole purgatory theory really fits.

    • @finnsword8286
      @finnsword8286 4 роки тому +1

      The VVitch’s tagline is literally a New England Folktale. I’d say it very much is meant to be seen as a myth/folktale/ect!

    • @clanofclams2720
      @clanofclams2720 4 роки тому +7

      @@GuilhermeTobal5150 You know the movie takes place in Maine, right? Also, you're not american so you're in no place to tell us what we call our own country. We don't need to say "USA" every single time when a simple "America" could get the job done just fine. To put a button on things: you're not in any place of authority where you can declare that the state of cinema as a whole is "Too USA" centered, that is just silly. Over the past ten years, ten different films have took home the Palme d'Or and TWO of them were in English... Only *_ONE_* of them was helmed by an American director. To say that Cinema is too centered around America while we are at the height of the new french extremity movement and the blossoming of South korean cinema is silly at best and downright stupid at worst. In either case, it's incorrect.

  • @congruentcrib
    @congruentcrib 4 роки тому +3

    I love the idea of this being a state of purgatory... I’ve seen it once but I want to watch it a few more times and take note thinking of that.

  • @peterjetnikoff
    @peterjetnikoff 4 роки тому +2

    Clear and concise account of a knotty film. I had trouble with it when I was watching it until the climax at the light and the significance of the final image (luckily, among the few Greek myths I know). Thanks for this.

  • @_Azagoth_
    @_Azagoth_ 4 роки тому +7

    1:40 that's exactly the kind of face you need to see when trying to find someone to cast as the Joker.

  • @zachb.4429
    @zachb.4429 4 роки тому +26

    Really liked this video. Didn’t try to tell me exactly what the ending means like so many other videos, but just kinda helped me along my way of forming my own theory. Subscribed

  • @realkingofantarctica
    @realkingofantarctica 2 роки тому +2

    "Interpret this movie, if ye dare."

  • @angelnolasco3577
    @angelnolasco3577 4 роки тому +2

    This is the video I didn't know existed, but needed. Thanks

  • @gnosisi
    @gnosisi 3 роки тому +1

    They got so friendly even affectionate one time and then again hostile just like the relationship of the volatile sea and mere human. It gave me vague impression that Wake might be the impersonation of the sea itself.

  • @joeytorres6889
    @joeytorres6889 4 роки тому +2

    YES, what a perfect double feature with THE MASTER.

  • @cirquedude123
    @cirquedude123 4 роки тому

    Fascinating perspectives,
    thank you!!

  • @aouss.altwaijry
    @aouss.altwaijry 4 роки тому

    I love your analysis and approach.

  • @kinhamid9665
    @kinhamid9665 4 роки тому +3

    To me the light in the ending represents The Lighthouse and Winslow represents film fans

  • @DannyMellin
    @DannyMellin 4 роки тому +1

    I love the idea of the light just being...a light, and that's it. That's why he screams because he realises the reality of the mystery surrounding it.

  • @alifarhat16
    @alifarhat16 4 роки тому +1

    The thing you wrote at the end blew my mind

  • @princessthyemis
    @princessthyemis 4 роки тому

    oh my gosh I loved all your interpretations!! I LOVE THIS MOVIE SO MUCH! I have so many ideas about it, too! It's so simple but at the same time it's not simple at all! I saw it as....the lighthouse and its light is an enchantment, or maybe even a goddess, cursing people to damnation if they kill seabirds or lose their souls, like Old Thomas (so cool about their names in the script; I didn't even pick up on their names in the movie lol?!) mentioned he'd lost his soul to the sea, and the lighthouse is like some powerful god punishing any living being on their rock, a goddess to cause people to become bewitched with its light or just wanting to see it, but its so magical it'll make you go crazy if you look at it directly before condemning you to the final stages of the curse. :D
    i think this movie is BRILLIANT!
    Great video :D

  • @KillerBotFilms
    @KillerBotFilms 4 роки тому +1

    Great job analyzing and going behind the scenes. What you interpreted was very similar to what I came up with after repeat viewings, but more heavy on the purgatory idea and how the film is a retelling of Thomas's love life with Winslow and his wife and essentially been given a second chance to correct mistakes he has done in the relationship.
    I could go on about what I think the mermaid meant as well but you're probably not in the mood to read a bunch of paragraphs. Great video! Excited to watch more of your content.

  • @JOLANETCOMPAGNIE
    @JOLANETCOMPAGNIE 4 роки тому +17

    Great video ! It's surprising, I had the exact same theory about purgatory on my second viewing. What a fantastic film !

    • @TheKinoCorner
      @TheKinoCorner  4 роки тому +4

      The fact that the old assistant had one eye and the bird has one eye intrigued me. Wake says that the souls of dead sailors are in seabirds, but that connection might mean the the failed souls of previous people in the lighthouse are in the seabirds we see. It would tie together with the ending shots wherein we see the birds picking apart the remains of Howard. By eating him, he's becoming part of them. It's ominous, for sure.

  • @dabears4everha
    @dabears4everha 4 роки тому +1

    Great video! Love that we came to all the same conclusions about the film. Keep up the great work 👍

  • @snooplenny3765
    @snooplenny3765 3 роки тому

    I think that the fact that different interpretations are possible help lend itself to idea of reality being ambiguous in the film and how it's impossible to know what scenes are real and what scenes are fake.

  • @UrsaMaj0r148
    @UrsaMaj0r148 Рік тому +1

    My grandparents retired to Nova Scotia (just about 30 minutes from Yarmouth, where this was shot) and it's just on a whole other level as far as a mystical place! My Opa was an "old salt", to the extent that his whole room/area of the house (built in early 1700s) was made to look like a captains quarters, with a porthole, lanterns, and two mermaids from a ship on Nantucket island sculpted out of wood on either side of the bed.

  • @EMDrecs1
    @EMDrecs1 8 місяців тому

    Eggers is a genius. If he never makes another movie, this would be a grand enough achievement.

  • @philj212
    @philj212 4 роки тому +12

    yes, the old assistand, the bird but also the young man when he is being eaten has one eye. I am thinking maybe it is some sort of loop but I haven't seen the movie more than once so its hard to recollect.

  • @LoganMcCord
    @LoganMcCord 4 роки тому +2

    Why did you make me cry by pointing out the both the seagull and the old assistant?

  • @IAmTheStig32
    @IAmTheStig32 3 роки тому

    As someone who runs Call of Cthulhu over D&D as my go-to RPG game system, this film is 100% recommended viewing material before you dive into your first game. It's a true masterclass in understanding Lovecraft and his stories and why they work so well even today.

  • @paul6925
    @paul6925 4 роки тому +2

    I thought the same of the last shot being his actual state for the whole movie! The entire film took place in his head as he was dying/being eaten by seagulls. Once I learned about the greek myth interpretations I was less sure.

  • @iwatchmoremoviesthanyou
    @iwatchmoremoviesthanyou 4 роки тому

    Fantastic video man! And what a beautiful film, the creative liberties taken truly paid off in such a wonderful way.

  • @GiggleBlizzard
    @GiggleBlizzard 4 роки тому +3

    This film is like a man himself. And the man above him, and also the man below him.

  • @ruloboy7233
    @ruloboy7233 4 роки тому

    Bruh I subscribed because of your voice, its really inmersive

  • @3iopen
    @3iopen 2 роки тому +1

    One of my all time favourite films! I quote it all the time!

  • @guywithasukapfp7835
    @guywithasukapfp7835 11 місяців тому

    i had to memorize wake's sea curse monologue for a class, now they can't shut me up

  • @gabeduncan3626
    @gabeduncan3626 4 роки тому

    Definitely need to see this again

  • @cornography895
    @cornography895 4 роки тому +2

    i thought the same thing about the parallels between The Lighthouse and The Master

  • @shanestern1788
    @shanestern1788 4 роки тому

    When I first watched it as the psychological collapse of young tom, and his mind after he watched the other logger dying, old tom being a manifestation of his father and self hatred, and all the events being him trying to come to terms with and move passed his past or become what he hates, and how it's killing him.

  • @prodigalsun1678
    @prodigalsun1678 3 місяці тому

    This video is recommended to me every day i guess ill watch it

  • @bigsleep7242
    @bigsleep7242 Рік тому

    "You think you're so God damn high and mighty because you're a God damn lighthouse keeper?"

  • @jeremyud
    @jeremyud 4 роки тому

    I learn towards the purgatory idea- that Thomas got into a shipwreck on his way to the assignment that he got with his stolen identity, managed to get ashore, but was so injured that he was scavenged by birds. And basically the entire movie is his dying hallucination and reckoning of his sins.

  • @cristianbarrera8849
    @cristianbarrera8849 4 роки тому

    Great video. Keep up the good work, my friend!

  • @Mr_Bamshki
    @Mr_Bamshki 3 роки тому

    Well spoken, love the commentary.

  • @danielcardiff3861
    @danielcardiff3861 4 роки тому +2

    2019 was an awesome year for film.

  • @chriskrichie566
    @chriskrichie566 4 роки тому

    I love this movie so much! You blew my mind with Howard was dead the whole movie and his soul was being judged.

  • @timothyfitzpatrick8860
    @timothyfitzpatrick8860 4 роки тому

    I can’t believe that someone else was reminded of “The Master”

  • @musicfilmhead9051
    @musicfilmhead9051 4 роки тому +3

    God I love this film. Great vid. Subbed.

  • @ed4103
    @ed4103 4 роки тому

    What’s interesting is that what happens to Winslow Is predicted by wake in several of his rants. For example, Wake says at one point that he’s surprised Winslow hasn’t “split his skull in Twain,” which happens by the end of the movie. He also says that his previous wickie was enchanted by the light, which we see happening to Winslow even early on in the film. Wake, in his rant about cooking, describes a majority of the hallucinations Winslow has in their fight later in the film, and in the ending scene as well.

  • @Riot076
    @Riot076 4 роки тому +4

    Personally I just love how many interpretations work well with this movie,due to a huge amount of different tropes that can serve as a base. I actually have my own interpretation,that blends kinda nicely with the "father and son" thread,that's commonly evoked. And according to it the main thread of the movie is Oedipus complex. Thomas likes to refer to the light of the lighthouse as if it was his lady. We also witness the "romantic" scene with the tentacle at the top of the lighthouse. For Ephraim the light of the lighthouse is the "forbidden fruit". So finally Ephraim-Oedipus kills Thomas-his own father to posses the light of the lighthouse-in this context his father's lady (I'm not saying "his mother",'cause I don't see any parental relationship between the lighthouse and Ephraim outside of the general interpretative context). What happens next? Well,Ephraim dies and in the scene when we see his body,we can clearly see,that he's been blinded. A quick reminder - when Oedipus realised that he had commited incest,he blinded himself. Furthermore we have the siren's figurine and the siren itself in the movie. How do those things relate to the Oedipus' theory? Well,there's the scene where Ephraim masturbates to the figurine. Also after the "rendez-vous" with sirene Ephraim has a dream where he has sex with her. When we come back to the scene where Ephraim meets her for the first time in "reality",their rapprochement is suddenly interrupted by the siren's scream. The scream itself merges into the noise that the lighthouse makes as if the siren was the embodiment of the lighthouse. So now the "puzzle" looks like this: the siren about the sexual intercourse with which Ephraim was fantasizing about=the lighthouse=Thomas' lady so at the same time the mother of Oedipus,whom in this case is Ephraim. And a small addition just from my personal observations: in the final scenes,where Ephraim finally gets to see the light at the beginning he's stunned by its "beauty",then he gets more and more extatic almost orgasmic and near the end of the scene I'd say he's frightened as if he realised that he "violated" the light (which is his father's woman in this interpretation),then he gets blinded (which is what Oedipus did to himself upon realising what he had done)

  • @MrJinxmaster1
    @MrJinxmaster1 4 роки тому

    Off to the cinema tomorrow. No choice but to see it again. Getting some interpretations in me so I can think about it "better" as I watch it.

  • @Gamit522
    @Gamit522 4 роки тому +1

    This movie was filmed where I live :) Nova Scotia !

  • @zack-ne1li
    @zack-ne1li 4 роки тому +3

    "here take my kino, go ahead have a bite"
    -Martin Scorsese (2020)

  • @klassvander8812
    @klassvander8812 4 роки тому

    subbed! incredible stuff, man!

  • @Anton-qc1fk
    @Anton-qc1fk 4 роки тому +1

    Fucking incredible. You’ve earned yourself a subscriber. Although, I would like to know your theory on the seabird and the assistant having the same “one-eye.”

  • @yeetus_reetus_deeleetus
    @yeetus_reetus_deeleetus 3 роки тому +1

    Just bought a lighthouse Lego set based in a horror type universe and this movie has been recommended to me so many times lmao

  • @hippiecheezburger5457
    @hippiecheezburger5457 2 роки тому +1

    What a story, what a film

  • @vali4real
    @vali4real 4 роки тому +1

    i THINK this is based on the Cthulhu mythos and largely inspired by lovecraft's work... IDK I thought the scenario and the scenes looked a bit similar...

  • @darthgreenthum6364
    @darthgreenthum6364 4 роки тому

    If I'm not mistaken old states the last wiki went mad, perhaps he was playing with him...trying to make him insane like his former wiki.
    Old starts the back and forth "what, what, what, what" young says, that's you right there that's you....maybe he realized that old is pushing young all the time.
    Like when old chases young with the axe and breaks the boat, 2 minutes later old says why did you chase me and break the boat?
    Old is playing with young in his alcohol induced psychosis.
    All in all they are both mental and it can be percieved in many ways...but i think that's a nice theory!
    Cool video!

  • @thiefx100
    @thiefx100 4 роки тому +1

    He sticks his hand into the light at the end of the film and yet it is not severely burned when suffering on the beach.
    What was in the light?

  • @mattsterh7740
    @mattsterh7740 2 роки тому

    The movie was orignially based off a poe story that he had barely started before he died. The way i see it as a poe or lovecraft story about cosmic horror, especially with the ephraims murder being and pattinsons guilt similar to poe's telltale heart.

  • @senseweaver01
    @senseweaver01 3 роки тому +2

    Y'know, I'm something of a lighthouse keeper myself