This video is simply AMAZING. You hit a special niche, you somehow made a perfect video for “indie documentaries” lol, I feel like every video you find on UA-cam about documentaries is focused on features or short documentaries in the professional world, but it was perfect because you directed it at individuals who understand documentaries but aren’t trying to do “professional documentaries” and don't have either the budget or the project to require such large crews or gear.
I think that this video sealed the deal for me on the BMPCC 6K Pro. Great to hear from a working filmmaker like myself give real world insight. Great job.
That rig is cleeeeaaan. I've been rolling with the Pocket 6K, but want to jump to the Pro for the same reasons you mentioned. Thanks for the gear breakdown.
Another great feature of the pocket series for documentary work is having proper timecode. Pairing a pocket with a Tentacle Sync Track E lets me record audio even when I'm not rolling on the camera, and I never miss a sound byte. Syncing it all in post is super easy!
Also, love your rig setup and the bars beneath and the reasons you gave for them to protect your Box and places to grab onto and center the weight distro. really informative video. thank you again.
Absolutely love your motivation for choosing that mic. Just from those sample clips it looks like it NAILED what you were after. Mark me down for wanting a bigger breakdown on that mic and competing products.
would love a review on the mk400 and 440. the 400 specifically for a-roll talk to the camera type of shots and how to set up. the 440 to hear a range of different examples of sounds not being in a studio. nature, public roads, touristy places, etc.
Nice man, normally I see some JANK ass builds from people but this is tight and clean. Also, I feel for your bank account, that wooden camera cage kit ain’t cheap!
Super great. Wooden camera cage is the best option for sure, glad you’re not recording to a T7 lol. Awesome find on the mic, would love to watch a deeper dive on it
I’m wondering if you could do a video or something explaining the switch from the e2-s6 to the 6k pro as I would love an in depth comparison of the two cameras!
@@CineDailies I would love to see and hear this 4 min shot, it is really uplifting and calm at the same time. Did you release it somewhere or is it in the movie cut?
Thanks for this video.. Definitely learn some things I did not know before. This will help to expand on the use optional ways of rigging, specifically for the 6K Pro.
Dope. I was like what’s this Cine Dallie? I know the voice then u show up!! Lol Yes the 6K pro is a very versatile camera. I have a similar set up now.
dude that ifootage clamp boompole setup is genius!!! haha im deff going for that on my next long shoot | you should give the fx6 a shot you would actually be way more discrete with one than with a bmpcc6kpro as opposed as to what you said
Haha make sure you have a heavy duty tripod and proper balance! But yeah th fx6 would be solid too. Though I think people would instantly know it's a "video camera" and I wouldn't have been able to go into alot of the locationa. But the BMPCC6K Pro looks like a DSLR camera so it caused more confusion hahha which worked in my favor
Thanks for this instructive rig video. Love the aesthetic you're getting from Zeiss Milvus. I want to invest in the manual primes for my 6K Pro. Can you provide a link to the mod?
Thank you for the detailed review of your documentary setup for the BMPC 6K Pro camera rig you use. Very educational. I'm seriously considering getting the URSA Mini Pro 12K myself. That doco you showed looks interesting. Has it been released yet ?
Instantly subscribed after seeing this video. You explain it so well and I love the authenticity & real-life applicability as I'm currently also looking to build a rig most likely with the BMPCC 6K Pro. Looking forward to more of your videos. A few things I noticed/was wondering: 02:02 - The footage quality here looks low. How come? 07:51 - You mentioned that there's a way to crop further with the 15MM, to 24MM and then even to 40. But I didn't quite catch that part that you can crop it till 40, how? With what sensor? 10:16 - in this scene it actually looks like you're able to use this piece of gear as a small slider, do you ever? Also, have you ever put this rig on a gimbal? Last question, it seems that there's a little glitch or dustspot on your sensor which I can see on the middle of the screen/your face, have you noticed?
My guy! Thanks for watching and giving feedback! As for the 2:02 - yeah that's strange, it looks like a YT problem. It's playing about low quality for me too. 7:51 - the 2.8k applies a heavy crop - I believe almost 1.7 on top of the 1.6 crop. so its a rough estimate. I will be putting this setup on a gimbal so stay tuned for that! that was the sun flare haha from that angle
Hey Mate, would be interested in hearing more about the MKE 440 Mic. Specifically why you chose it over say the Rode Stereo VideoMic X. Been looking into these type mics myself. Cheers.
I have a custom camera rig that is very comfortable to hold and mount all my accessories on, but when I am filming unless I am using a tripod for stability, I prefer to use my gimbal. Why do you choose the hand held rig rather than a gimbal?
Just recently started following you man, really love you work! I have two questions, how do you expose with false color? do you ever reach the yellow mark or is that too high? Also what Iso do you use for daylight scenes? 400, 800? wish you a great 2024 :)
Thanks for watching! I don't use false color on the pocket cameras. Just the histogram and traffic lights. These cameras need more light to perform well. So I over exposure Without blowing out my highlights. I'm normally around 1000 iso
Amazing review and video. I am looking to buy my first and I cant see the difference between the BMCCP6k pro and the BMCCP G2, can you please discuss this difference and why it matters and how it would be best applied in each situation? Thank you.
There isn’t a difference when it comes to image quality. There only physical differences. The g2 doesn’t have internal NDs, the screen is only 400 or 500 nits
@@CineDailies thank you, guess ill wait to see if cyber monday has any deals and then get the BMPCC 6k Pro because i do want those internal NDs. do you feel that color correction that the G2 has is worth the ND trade offs?
Nice video! That MKE 440 stereo field sounds so immersive! Q: how does it work out if your subject is one person and closer? Did you swap mics to a mono then? Thanks. Left me curious about those Zeiss Milvus now :)
Hi! the stereo mic NEEDS to be up the lens? in the midle of the camera, to get a right audio...dont know what happens if you put it at one side of the cam..thanks!!
Awesome video Joshua, all those handling aspects you touched base on really matter when you're having to shoot everyday. I personally plan to get into documentary filmmaking more, and this video was super helpful (also trying to figure out BMP vs Sony A7Siii.)
I really like most of this rig - creative ideas and all - but firstly that main lens choice nimbles me! Of course it's up to taste but I really did not like the low contrast look of the zeiss wide angle. The image of the sigma 18-35 looked way better IMO. The second problem to me is that it seems you tried to beat physics here. During the walking shots I can see serious micro jitters and I think a gh5 coupled with a vari ND would look much better at this point. So all this money is not worth it if there is jitters in the end. I would train some weight lifting and make your rig heavier or get an easy rig :D Or get a b cam for walking shots with IS.
@@CineDailies Ahh sorry.! I didn't saw that you have the battery plate under the camera. I have a V-Mount Battery Plate behind my 6K PRO and that makes the rig very long and odd in some way. But which plate you used to attach the Anton Bauer battery on beneath the rail system?
Gonna git me one! Or two ... Seriously though, your choices of lens are unorthodox, if you're going for documentaries, doesn't the glass have to be up to a specific standard? Canon cine lenses can be bought 2nd hand for a fair price.
Please be clear when talking about 15mm lens on BMPCC 6K = 24mm which is comparing to a full frame camera sensor. Most all of the films produced in Hollywood have been shot on S35 sensors so when you read that a 24mm lens is used on an Arri… it’s still equivalent to 24mm. That means when you use a 24mm on a BMPCC 6K, it’s still equivalent to a 24mm. No conversion. Don’t do conversions to still/full frame sensors as that is not correct.
Awesome, thank you! I wanted to make sure that those who are starting out who might be confused with crop factor (which is talked about on other videos) doesn’t confuse them when it comes to selecting a lens size and often they will look at what directors have used such as a 21 mm or 24 mm and then think that they need to apply a crop factor to get the equivalent which is not the case on super35 sensors for motion cameras. …now the BMPCC 4K is a different story ;)
This video is simply AMAZING. You hit a special niche, you somehow made a perfect video for “indie documentaries” lol, I feel like every video you find on UA-cam about documentaries is focused on features or short documentaries in the professional world, but it was perfect because you directed it at individuals who understand documentaries but aren’t trying to do “professional documentaries” and don't have either the budget or the project to require such large crews or gear.
🙌🏽 I will following up the details on this project from budget, mangaing travel and client relationship
I think that this video sealed the deal for me on the BMPCC 6K Pro. Great to hear from a working filmmaker like myself give real world insight. Great job.
🤝🤝🤝
That rig is cleeeeaaan. I've been rolling with the Pocket 6K, but want to jump to the Pro for the same reasons you mentioned. Thanks for the gear breakdown.
wow.. the place in Africa seemed like my country. Saw a swahili writing at the back.
Another great feature of the pocket series for documentary work is having proper timecode. Pairing a pocket with a Tentacle Sync Track E lets me record audio even when I'm not rolling on the camera, and I never miss a sound byte. Syncing it all in post is super easy!
FACTS
Also, love your rig setup and the bars beneath and the reasons you gave for them to protect your Box and places to grab onto and center the weight distro. really informative video. thank you again.
glad it was helpful!
Absolutely love your motivation for choosing that mic. Just from those sample clips it looks like it NAILED what you were after. Mark me down for wanting a bigger breakdown on that mic and competing products.
i was super happy with that mic - more than happy to do a full breakdown
would love a review on the mk400 and 440. the 400 specifically for a-roll talk to the camera type of shots and how to set up. the 440 to hear a range of different examples of sounds not being in a studio. nature, public roads, touristy places, etc.
your wish is my command!
Footage looked amazing and this rig seems perfect for what you were doing
Thank you! And yes it was perfect for this job
Great project and good shots from within the dark and difficult to shoot in the church in Jerusalem.
Yo!!!! That Boom pole setup is so money!!!!!!!!! I am definitely using a variation of this. I only shoot Blackmagic. Thanks for the run & gun tips
Make sure it's secure!
Nice man, normally I see some JANK ass builds from people but this is tight and clean. Also, I feel for your bank account, that wooden camera cage kit ain’t cheap!
Hahaha for sure - luckily they are a channel sponsor now but I have been using them for year's. Hard work pays off bro
Makes me wish I hadn't lost my right earbud. I want to hear the streets! I love hearing the purpose behind gear decisions, thanks for sharing!
I'll be making a audio test - so you'll have another chance to listen!
Watched the whole video; good stuff. Keep going my man.
Thanks for watching!
Super great. Wooden camera cage is the best option for sure, glad you’re not recording to a T7 lol. Awesome find on the mic, would love to watch a deeper dive on it
Great and informative video. We’ve been eyeballing the Black Magic 6k, G2 and Pro for a while now. 👍
Hope this was helpful!
Loved this video! Looking forward to seeing the completed documentary!
Thanks for watching!
I’m wondering if you could do a video or something explaining the switch from the e2-s6 to the 6k pro as I would love an in depth comparison of the two cameras!
For sure - can compare the two cameras. i like them both
That long shot at 5:00 is NUTS!! So inspiring!! Shooting Docs is a dream for me one day! Loving this stuff from you Joshua!
brooo the one take is 4 mins long - handheld - walking around haha - unplanned. of my favorite moments I captured!
But doc's can start small! think of your family, friend, or create a something you are really interested in to get started!
@@CineDailies I would love to see and hear this 4 min shot, it is really uplifting and calm at the same time. Did you release it somewhere or is it in the movie cut?
Nice vid. Great info! I find the less gear i carry, the more productive I am and get done. But of course it all depends on your needs.
Thanks for this video.. Definitely learn some things I did not know before. This will help to expand on the use optional ways of rigging, specifically for the 6K Pro.
I'm glad it helped! Thanks for watching!
Josh, this might be my fav vid you’ve made. Great insight and open ended suggestions. Keep it up! 👌🏻🤙🏻
🙇🏽♂️🙇🏽♂️🙇🏽♂️ My guy! Thanks for watching!
fx6+micro v mount battery+leica m lens . my dream setup
Fantastic breakdown and super insightful! Gave me some ideas for my wedding setup. Thanks brother and keep doing you!
Awesomeness! Dm if you any questions!
@@CineDailies thx, Rig Daddy 😎
Such a good video bro! I’m here for the documentary filmmaking content 🤙🏼
My guy! Thank you for watching!!
Dope. I was like what’s this Cine Dallie? I know the voice then u show up!! Lol
Yes the 6K pro is a very versatile camera. I have a similar set up now.
Iso 1000 is the sweet spot on that camera for very bright scenes. That’s where you have the most dynamic range in the highlights.
I agree the higher ISO preform better in the highlights. ISO 800 or iso 1000are both great. Minor differences
dude that ifootage clamp boompole setup is genius!!! haha im deff going for that on my next long shoot | you should give the fx6 a shot you would actually be way more discrete with one than with a bmpcc6kpro as opposed as to what you said
Haha make sure you have a heavy duty tripod and proper balance! But yeah th fx6 would be solid too. Though I think people would instantly know it's a "video camera" and I wouldn't have been able to go into alot of the locationa. But the BMPCC6K Pro looks like a DSLR camera so it caused more confusion hahha which worked in my favor
feel you on the FS7. still one of my favorite camera bodies. menu and image were a different story but the ergonomics.... loved it.
the ergo was so top notch. adding that top plate and side handle was perfect
Smaller... I love mine! I'm going to love it even more on a RS3!
I get my rs3 this week!
Yes please do a thorough video on your microphone. Thank you
It's coming
That image quality 🔥🔥🔥
It's so good
Thanks for this instructive rig video. Love the aesthetic you're getting from Zeiss Milvus. I want to invest in the manual primes for my 6K Pro. Can you provide a link to the mod?
This was amazing!! Can I interview you for my podcast (The Harley Jay Way)?
Sure! Email me
Nice setup!
Thank you!
“As you know guys, I do like mounting different things.” 😂
Oof 🤦🏽♂️😂
super sick. thanks for your insights.
Damn, the first couple frames tho 😍
Thanks!!
Prepping for a new docu-series, and I’m in the same boat, used to use the old Sony fx5 - but damn I just LOVE the black magic image
Thank you for the detailed review of your documentary setup for the BMPC 6K Pro camera rig you use. Very educational. I'm seriously considering getting the URSA Mini Pro 12K myself. That doco you showed looks interesting. Has it been released yet ?
Instantly subscribed after seeing this video. You explain it so well and I love the authenticity & real-life applicability as I'm currently also looking to build a rig most likely with the BMPCC 6K Pro. Looking forward to more of your videos.
A few things I noticed/was wondering:
02:02 - The footage quality here looks low. How come?
07:51 - You mentioned that there's a way to crop further with the 15MM, to 24MM and then even to 40. But I didn't quite catch that part that you can crop it till 40, how? With what sensor?
10:16 - in this scene it actually looks like you're able to use this piece of gear as a small slider, do you ever? Also, have you ever put this rig on a gimbal?
Last question, it seems that there's a little glitch or dustspot on your sensor which I can see on the middle of the screen/your face, have you noticed?
My guy! Thanks for watching and giving feedback!
As for the 2:02 - yeah that's strange, it looks like a YT problem. It's playing about low quality for me too.
7:51 - the 2.8k applies a heavy crop - I believe almost 1.7 on top of the 1.6 crop. so its a rough estimate.
I will be putting this setup on a gimbal so stay tuned for that!
that was the sun flare haha from that angle
Great footage!
Thank you!
Hi, first of all thank you for sharing your work, then I have a question, what was the equipment of your first documentary? Thank you
happy to answer! ask away or join our discord! Link is in the description
Great setup and video, thank you!
Thank for watching!
Amazing video!
Thanks for watching!
Got rid of my z cam e2 s6 aswell. The BMPCC 6k Pro has a smoother look, alot closer to film.
Z cam looks amazing but it just didn't do it for me.
Stunning work! May I know if you used any diffusion filters with the milvus?
Thanks! No diffusion at all just sooc
Whaaaaat, damn you’ve got great vision! Can’t wait for your video on the documentary!
@@SeanC- it's coming along!
Hey Mate, would be interested in hearing more about the MKE 440 Mic. Specifically why you chose it over say the Rode Stereo VideoMic X. Been looking into these type mics myself. Cheers.
great! im working on it!
I have a custom camera rig that is very comfortable to hold and mount all my accessories on, but when I am filming unless I am using a tripod for stability, I prefer to use my gimbal. Why do you choose the hand held rig rather than a gimbal?
For this project, going handheld made the most sense and less noticable in public
Great job!
🙇🏽
Nice video! Where can I see the documentary on Israel?
It'll be out next year!
great video bro.
Thanks for watching fam!
Great Stuff!
Thanks for watching!
More Black Indie Filmmakers on UA-cam please!! Great video! 🔥
Haha thanks for watching
Just recently started following you man, really love you work! I have two questions, how do you expose with false color? do you ever reach the yellow mark or is that too high? Also what Iso do you use for daylight scenes? 400, 800? wish you a great 2024 :)
Thanks for watching! I don't use false color on the pocket cameras. Just the histogram and traffic lights. These cameras need more light to perform well. So I over exposure Without blowing out my highlights. I'm normally around 1000 iso
@@CineDailies Interesting! do you ever go to 100 or 200 iso? I appreciate your response man. happy new year!
Did the rolling shutter ever bother you? I didn't notice any on the pan you did at 13:07.
I live with it but for that shot - it's a slow plan smoothed out in post. Rolling shutter wouldn't show up in a shot like that
Amazing review and video. I am looking to buy my first and I cant see the difference between the BMCCP6k pro and the BMCCP G2, can you please discuss this difference and why it matters and how it would be best applied in each situation? Thank you.
There isn’t a difference when it comes to image quality. There only physical differences. The g2 doesn’t have internal NDs, the screen is only 400 or 500 nits
@@CineDailies thank you, guess ill wait to see if cyber monday has any deals and then get the BMPCC 6k Pro because i do want those internal NDs. do you feel that color correction that the G2 has is worth the ND trade offs?
how did you get the A box attached to your cage? I would love to see how you did that, as I tend to go for the full XLR instead of mini.
Nice video! That MKE 440 stereo field sounds so immersive! Q: how does it work out if your subject is one person and closer? Did you swap mics to a mono then? Thanks. Left me curious about those Zeiss Milvus now :)
Hi! the stereo mic NEEDS to be up the lens? in the midle of the camera, to get a right audio...dont know what happens if you put it at one side of the cam..thanks!!
Can I ask how do you cope with rolling shutter wobbles when you shoot handheld without gimbal, please?
Awesome video
🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
this is fox, nice video sir
fox is a new term haha thanks for watching!
Awesome video Joshua, all those handling aspects you touched base on really matter when you're having to shoot everyday.
I personally plan to get into documentary filmmaking more, and this video was super helpful (also trying to figure out BMP vs Sony A7Siii.)
Awesome bro! I'm glad it helped on some level! I plan on doing a follow up video soon.
I need that shirt… is your merch site online still? The link isn’t working.
Do you get much distortion from the 15mm Zeiss?
Non really
How do you focus with this setup if you were starting out with one man band?
Amazing 👏. Eres el mejor
I really like most of this rig - creative ideas and all - but firstly that main lens choice nimbles me! Of course it's up to taste but I really did not like the low contrast look of the zeiss wide angle. The image of the sigma 18-35 looked way better IMO. The second problem to me is that it seems you tried to beat physics here. During the walking shots I can see serious micro jitters and I think a gh5 coupled with a vari ND would look much better at this point. So all this money is not worth it if there is jitters in the end. I would train some weight lifting and make your rig heavier or get an easy rig :D Or get a b cam for walking shots with IS.
haha I guess any hand held footage in doc are a no go with you
@@CineDailies no, not at all, but the camera has to be heavy enough
does anyone know the model of the Cfast2.0 card box in this video?
Why 5.7K vs 6K? Do you find rolling shutter is improved?
It's simple, because I wanted to. I didn't worry about the rolling shutter, it didn't effect what I was doing
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is there a reason you used the xlr converter instead of using a mini xlr to xlr cable itself?
I hate using mini xlrs
What was the Nikon F to E mount adapter you used? It's not mentioned in the gear list and I can't quite make out what you said.
Simmodlens
@@CineDailies Thanks!
Does the NTG3 provide its own power? It's my understanding that the A box doesn't provide any power to a phantom xlr mic.
It's phantom power through the 6kpro
@@CineDailies Interesting that phantom comes out of that port. I was considering trying it on the Z Cam but I don't think it will work.
@@FlyingJackalope I believe the mini xlr can pass through to the box for phantom power. The 3.5mm jack can't do that is my guess
yo bro i am looking at getting this model camera. th one thing about it it is an all around camera...
Did you get rid of changing the batteries all the time?
I'm not sure what to mean?
@@CineDailies Ahh sorry.! I didn't saw that you have the battery plate under the camera. I have a V-Mount Battery Plate behind my 6K PRO and that makes the rig very long and odd in some way. But which plate you used to attach the Anton Bauer battery on beneath the rail system?
I’m using the same camera but I’m using the 18-55 EF mount canon lens how do you feel about the image quality?
does the aperture change when you zoom?
@@CineDailiesno it is usually pretty good at keeping the same aperture while zooming in and out
@@cnaimagingandfilm9063 cool-i’ve never used that lens but what do you think of it?
@@CineDailiesI’ve honestly never shot anything with it yet not sure where to start I plan on utilizing it today for sure though
Gonna git me one! Or two ... Seriously though, your choices of lens are unorthodox, if you're going for documentaries, doesn't the glass have to be up to a specific standard? Canon cine lenses can be bought 2nd hand for a fair price.
Which model A-Box are you using?
A-box mini XLR to FULL XLR
Did you shoot something for Passages?
What do you mean?
What should be my next topic for docu filmmaking?
I think that you should teach how to edit a documentary.
I love
Israel 👎🏾
your skills/camera 👍🏾
You were not in isreal you were on palestine land
Facts
Invest in a follow focus
Have one but Didn't need one on this project.
Please be clear when talking about 15mm lens on BMPCC 6K = 24mm which is comparing to a full frame camera sensor. Most all of the films produced in Hollywood have been shot on S35 sensors so when you read that a 24mm lens is used on an Arri… it’s still equivalent to 24mm. That means when you use a 24mm on a BMPCC 6K, it’s still equivalent to a 24mm. No conversion. Don’t do conversions to still/full frame sensors as that is not correct.
Where did I miss spoke?
I corrected myself in the video. So...
Awesome, thank you! I wanted to make sure that those who are starting out who might be confused with crop factor (which is talked about on other videos) doesn’t confuse them when it comes to selecting a lens size and often they will look at what directors have used such as a 21 mm or 24 mm and then think that they need to apply a crop factor to get the equivalent which is not the case on super35 sensors for motion cameras. …now the BMPCC 4K is a different story ;)