Hey guys thank you for restoring all these beautiful tanks and giving a future generation chances to learn about the worlds history and how much armour has improved since ww2 keep up the good work
In less than 8.5 minutes, Mr. Jason Belgrade lets out more information of the Jadgpanther than any source elsewhere I’ve come across. In the league of Sir Doyle and the Bovington Museum. And this is a tank that was hauled some 8,000 miles to Australia. Bravo. Thank you. Mr. Belgrave, and others, are national treasures to their countries. Mr. HT Lenton, formerly UK RN, for example, passed away about 10 years ago as he was updating his prior books to include new research and larger format. His only update, British and Empire Warships of WW2, published around 1998 and out of print, is a seminal work and I have protected it like it is a Gutenberg Bible not that the Bible is correct. In the digital age, the written page has been replaced by even greater amount of content, but still, written pages are irreplaceable as monuments.
That was a great presentation Jason. I really liked the comparisons with sister vehicles. Loved the information stats. From 970 RDS to 6000 plus RDS with a sleeve. Awesome development. Thanks Jason always enjoy your great skills as a presenter.
Love this walk around in addition to the series showing it’s rebirth. Would love to see a walk around centered on the jagdpanzer in the future…..it’s an unusual vehicle and I would love to hear more about it. Cheers from America!!
The Jagdpanther is easily one of the most gorgeous AFVs of WW2. Perfect lines. We're very fortunate that the Germans got so carried away with designs, and that they couldn't effectively fuel/supply/fix/employ/man them.
I agree... It is a 'beautiful' machine, in spite of its purpose being destruction. I can just look at the thing endlessly almost like its a ridiculously hot 'centerfold'. :) And your comment about their priorities I think is extremely valid too. The Nazi regime was awful, but your typical German who manned these vehicles (and others) likely just believed he was protecting his country. We can see in today's world even now how easy it is to fool your average citizen with the rise of maga, anti vax, and brexit etc.
The side hull of the Jagdpanther is ONE single plate of steel from top to bottom sides, front to back, all in the same plane, sloped at the same angle as the slope of the Panther side turret.
Absolutely awesome....and....Incredible work.... Would love to spend a weekend there...but you guys are 15,187 km= 9,437 miles away....that's a problem....Peace!
That's cruel, two ducks in fan ducting ! Lol 😆 I'd like to respectfully honour all the tank crews ghat still alive and the fallen. We will remember you.
Great restoration and presentation! It is a bit strange, when Jason speaks in first person about changes in design " Then we changed ... and we went to ..." as if he was part of the original construction team.
As to the effect of sloping armor plates versus the typical blunt-point steel AP shot/shell (bare-nosed or just with windscreen), up to about 45-50 degrees from right-angles, the slope has LESS effect than merely not sloping the plate and making it thicker at the same weight. This is due to the spinning shell having its "chin" (part of nose toward the armor) hit the -plate slightly before its "forehead" (farthest nose point away from the armor) and this twists the direction of the shell into the plate (refraction like light through a prism, in effect) so distance through plate is less than straight through from trajectory just before the hit. When the angle goes above the 45-60-degree point of no refraction, the higher the angle gets, the better the -plate is at skipping the shell off it like a flat rock on water and sloping really helps the protection (at 60 degrees you get an additional 25% added plate thickness or so to that physical addition measured straight along trajectory just before the impact (depends on nose shape and hardness of armor). Above 80 degrees, only very thin armor would be penetrated by any blunt-point shell. If there is a hardened AP cap with a moderately sharp corner at the face edge where the windscreen is attached (crimped or screwed on), the corner can dig into a plate if it is thick enough to not dent much (about half-caliber thickness or more for the average typical AP cap face edge), the corner will cut into the face at 50 degrees impact angle or more and thus partially prevent the skipping effect, and so reduce the velocity to penetrate by an additional 12% or so, which can be significant. AP caps that are soft (most WWI-era-type caps), or with rounded face edges, or with a wide edge angle over 135 degrees -- for example, see British Hadfield WWII naval APC shells -- do not get this 12% reduced velocity to penetrate bonus.
Not really ahead of their time. Just addicted to slapping unnecessary armor on an overly complicated chassis. If you’re gonna talk about ahead of it’s time, that would go to the British Centurion.
@@jackv8195 You're entitled to your opinion. But I think the panzer kill ratios speak for themselves. The main advantage Allied tanks had was quantity.
@@dmtaboo_truth7052amazing to still commonly hear wehrb myths in 2023. Most allies countries had already built prototypes just as capable or even more so than the german heavies, but switching production simply wasn't needed whilst the nazis had to throw everything at the wall. Centurion, T29/ T34, IS-3, T-44 etc all were superior to most of nazi germanies tanks and not nearly as complicated and overengineerd. The best german tanks ironically were the panzer 3 and stugs simply due to having radios, good speed and a solid doctrine behind them. Those were vehicles that actually were winning unlike the fat cats only built to prolong the inevitable.
@@scatterlite2266 It's a pretty objective fact the Germans were ahead of everyone else, unless you're unable to see past your pro-Allied bias, or still believe Allied propaganda. Early Allied tanks were clunky and goofy until they copied/reverse-engineered panzer tech. It was the Germans who invented jet engines, rockets and the first automatic assault rifle. Operation Paperclip happened for a reason.
Excellent presentation. When used in anger, and having a good line of sight, what would be the typical range that the machine would start to fire on an enemy?
'Recoilless' is kind of a poor name for them.. many do have a pretty violent recoil. Probably easier to google how they work, but generally they use just enough gas venting/ countercharge to make the weapon safe enough to shoot without wasting too much weight / power.
I dont see how the 128mm would have been a "game changer." The 88mm Kwk43 was already able to destroy any allied tank at basically any range, and was quicker to load with more ammo capacity than the 128mm. The issue with late war German vehicles was their mechanical unreliability, lack of fuel and parts, and overwhelming Allied numbers and air support. Fitting a bigger gun to the Jagdpanther pretty much just would have made a worse, less effective vehicle.
Another great video with interesting new to me tidbits of knowledge. I'm somewhat frustrated that I have to stumble on these videos by chance. I somehow became "unsubscribed", not that youtube notified me before anyway. This time, even though I follow, it just showed up on fakebook after another video I watched. It just seems they hate military and history.
Interesting comment about barrel life with a liner giving over 6,000 rounds life because in the Ukraine conflict the 155 mm howitzers have to change their barrels quite often. Replacement has become a problem there because of the amount of use they are getting.
Modern 155s a have quite more oumpf than 40s 88s. Also, I think the higher figure is for the gun itself, liners would have been swapped many times before then.
Recoiless systems are extremely dangerous. To think they were going to install them with a breach inside the tank is kind of crazy. I'd rather have a reciprocating cannon in a tank compartment, than a solid breach that could blow apart if the gas pressure got too high from barrel fouling. Standard reciprocating cannons take a lot of the energy out of the weapon by turning it into mechanical advantage to cycle the breach and shell extraction.
Some of your "facts" are incorrect, especially regarding the crew heater. The fan did not pull air "in", It's sole purpose was to expell hot air thus lowering the engine temperature, as the air was pulled in through the rectangular armor "grills" on the front and back of it through the radiators. Instead of expelling the hot air into the open, as you stated the "pie" wedges were placed in the installed "ring" around the top and the hot air heated the crew compartment. Your G 2 seams to be missing the "restrickters" on the port rectangular intakes which functioned to cause the engine temperature to run even "hotter" so more heat was pumped into the crew compartment as the whole system was designed to deal with the bitter cold of the russian winters.
All that effort to get extra life out of guns that typically never got close to wearing out on actual service vehicles before the vehicle its self was lost. German industrial policy in a nutshell....
The most beautiful TD of WW2
Nooo, Jagdtiger is nicer
@@gliderdan3153 Nah, Jagdpanther is better.
agree
Every one of its sister are my favourite
Hey guys thank you for restoring all these beautiful tanks and giving a future generation chances to learn about the worlds history and how much armour has improved since ww2 keep up the good work
Credit to the men who fought against and in these machines, i cannot imagine
The series you guys did about restoration of this Jagdpanther was one of the best👍
Jagdpanther seems to have gained some traction recently. History Hit had a video on it just 3 days ago with a lot of driving and inside footage :)
thats good right?
I seriously love all the details of this tank and the general design. It's iconic.
In less than 8.5 minutes, Mr. Jason Belgrade lets out more information of the Jadgpanther than any source elsewhere I’ve come across. In the league of Sir Doyle and the Bovington Museum. And this is a tank that was hauled some 8,000 miles to Australia. Bravo. Thank you.
Mr. Belgrave, and others, are national treasures to their countries. Mr. HT Lenton, formerly UK RN, for example, passed away about 10 years ago as he was updating his prior books to include new research and larger format. His only update, British and Empire Warships of WW2, published around 1998 and out of print, is a seminal work and I have protected it like it is a Gutenberg Bible not that the Bible is correct. In the digital age, the written page has been replaced by even greater amount of content, but still, written pages are irreplaceable as monuments.
Thanks Jason, you are like a walking AFV encyclopedia. Brilliant video, Cheers
You sir are a fountain of information on these vehicles, no fluff, no BS, just damn good knowledge, many thanks !!!
Spectacular as always guys!
With respect to what you people have done, I have watched the series several times.
That was a great presentation Jason. I really liked the comparisons with sister vehicles. Loved the information stats. From 970 RDS to 6000 plus RDS with a sleeve. Awesome development. Thanks Jason always enjoy your great skills as a presenter.
Outstanding video and presentation. We love these walk around tours of these beautiful tanks.
Thank you!
Great tour, thanks. All the exhibits look absolutely first class.
A beautiful restoration, thanks for all your hard work!
Excellent video, the video series on the restoration is also really good! Keep up the great work.
Impressive in depth knowledge of this impressive beast. Well done.
Очень люблю смотреть ваш канал,всё снято на высоком уровне.
Wunderbar ! 😍🤩
Outstanding video and presentation. I had to.watch this video several times.
Love this walk around in addition to the series showing it’s rebirth. Would love to see a walk around centered on the jagdpanzer in the future…..it’s an unusual vehicle and I would love to hear more about it. Cheers from America!!
The Jagdpanther is easily one of the most gorgeous AFVs of WW2. Perfect lines. We're very fortunate that the Germans got so carried away with designs, and that they couldn't effectively fuel/supply/fix/employ/man them.
I agree... It is a 'beautiful' machine, in spite of its purpose being destruction. I can just look at the thing endlessly almost like its a ridiculously hot 'centerfold'. :) And your comment about their priorities I think is extremely valid too. The Nazi regime was awful, but your typical German who manned these vehicles (and others) likely just believed he was protecting his country. We can see in today's world even now how easy it is to fool your average citizen with the rise of maga, anti vax, and brexit etc.
Awesome vehicle. I love videos on some of these less common vehicles.
The side hull of the Jagdpanther is ONE single plate of steel from top to bottom sides, front to back, all in the same plane, sloped at the same angle as the slope of the Panther side turret.
There was a terrific video on ‘History Hit’ UA-cam channel, this week, with a running Jagdpanther.
Love your work 👍
Awesome Video, thank you!
Really interesting, this guy is extremely knowledgeable
This beast is huge , I love it.
Très belle présentation de cet excellent blindé , c'est toujours un plaisir de suivre vos restaurations.
I am amazed this tank even exist!.. thanks mate from across the ditch 👍🇳🇿
Absolutely awesome....and....Incredible work.... Would love to spend a weekend there...but you guys are 15,187 km= 9,437 miles away....that's a problem....Peace!
That Beast is a Beauty!
What a beautiful machine.
That's cruel, two ducks in fan ducting ! Lol 😆
I'd like to respectfully honour all the tank crews ghat still alive and the fallen.
We will remember you.
Very informative and entertaining. Thanks .
Despite their technical shortcomings, the Panther and Jagdpanther are still my favourite and best looking AFVs. 😁
Good video. Thank you. Impressive spark arresters.
One of my favorite tanks of ww2. Besides the Tiger 1…..cheers from the States all. 😊
Another great video!
Great restoration and presentation! It is a bit strange, when Jason speaks in first person about changes in design " Then we changed ... and we went to ..." as if he was part of the original construction team.
Still amazing
As to the effect of sloping armor plates versus the typical blunt-point steel AP shot/shell (bare-nosed or just with windscreen), up to about 45-50 degrees from right-angles, the slope has LESS effect than merely not sloping the plate and making it thicker at the same weight. This is due to the spinning shell having its "chin" (part of nose toward the armor) hit the -plate slightly before its "forehead" (farthest nose point away from the armor) and this twists the direction of the shell into the plate (refraction like light through a prism, in effect) so distance through plate is less than straight through from trajectory just before the hit. When the angle goes above the 45-60-degree point of no refraction, the higher the angle gets, the better the -plate is at skipping the shell off it like a flat rock on water and sloping really helps the protection (at 60 degrees you get an additional 25% added plate thickness or so to that physical addition measured straight along trajectory just before the impact (depends on nose shape and hardness of armor). Above 80 degrees, only very thin armor would be penetrated by any blunt-point shell.
If there is a hardened AP cap with a moderately sharp corner at the face edge where the windscreen is attached (crimped or screwed on), the corner can dig into a plate if it is thick enough to not dent much (about half-caliber thickness or more for the average typical AP cap face edge), the corner will cut into the face at 50 degrees impact angle or more and thus partially prevent the skipping effect, and so reduce the velocity to penetrate by an additional 12% or so, which can be significant. AP caps that are soft (most WWI-era-type caps), or with rounded face edges, or with a wide edge angle over 135 degrees -- for example, see British Hadfield WWII naval APC shells -- do not get this 12% reduced velocity to penetrate bonus.
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Great video...good work!
Great video
That is the pitbull of tanks right there!
That was great, so much detail, I could have done with a diagram. 👍🏻
Jagdpanther is like a rare butterfly
Awesome looking machine
A great interesting video.Have a good one,
Beautifull
Have you ever thought about doing Q&A’s on some of the museums socials or UA-cam?
Another great video. I've read a lot about the Panther, but never really understood about that crew heating system. Thanks
any updates on the tiger 1
I'll never stop respecting how far ahead of their time the Germans were.
It always sounds futuristic when you have an Aussie spokesman
Not really ahead of their time. Just addicted to slapping unnecessary armor on an overly complicated chassis. If you’re gonna talk about ahead of it’s time, that would go to the British Centurion.
@@jackv8195 You're entitled to your opinion. But I think the panzer kill ratios speak for themselves.
The main advantage Allied tanks had was quantity.
@@dmtaboo_truth7052amazing to still commonly hear wehrb myths in 2023.
Most allies countries had already built prototypes just as capable or even more so than the german heavies, but switching production simply wasn't needed whilst the nazis had to throw everything at the wall. Centurion, T29/ T34, IS-3, T-44 etc all were superior to most of nazi germanies tanks and not nearly as complicated and overengineerd.
The best german tanks ironically were the panzer 3 and stugs simply due to having radios, good speed and a solid doctrine behind them. Those were vehicles that actually were winning unlike the fat cats only built to prolong the inevitable.
@@scatterlite2266 It's a pretty objective fact the Germans were ahead of everyone else, unless you're unable to see past your pro-Allied bias, or still believe Allied propaganda.
Early Allied tanks were clunky and goofy until they copied/reverse-engineered panzer tech.
It was the Germans who invented jet engines, rockets and the first automatic assault rifle.
Operation Paperclip happened for a reason.
Well done mate, great information and the restoration is beautiful. Love watching this channel.
Excellent presentation. When used in anger, and having a good line of sight, what would be the typical range that the machine would start to fire on an enemy?
The Jagdpanther shares the same 88mm kanone as the Tiger 2. It could accurately engage and destroy enemy tanks at over 2kms in the right conditions.
@@Pojist Thank you.
Didn't know about that smoke/grenade launcher ... very innovative. Why would a recoilless weapon cause the tank to back up like that?
'Recoilless' is kind of a poor name for them.. many do have a pretty violent recoil.
Probably easier to google how they work, but generally they use just enough gas venting/ countercharge to make the weapon safe enough to shoot without wasting too much weight / power.
I dont see how the 128mm would have been a "game changer."
The 88mm Kwk43 was already able to destroy any allied tank at basically any range, and was quicker to load with more ammo capacity than the 128mm.
The issue with late war German vehicles was their mechanical unreliability, lack of fuel and parts, and overwhelming Allied numbers and air support. Fitting a bigger gun to the Jagdpanther pretty much just would have made a worse, less effective vehicle.
Great video as always !. Would like to examine how much does that flame extinguishing exhaust actually works at night ? 🤔
I imagine pretty well.. the flame dampeners on WW2 planes are pretty similar and cut down the flame / light by a lot for a simple cover.
@@frostedbutts4340 Thank you !. I think you are right about that.👍
Another great video with interesting new to me tidbits of knowledge.
I'm somewhat frustrated that I have to stumble on these videos by chance. I somehow became "unsubscribed", not that youtube notified me before anyway. This time, even though I follow, it just showed up on fakebook after another video I watched. It just seems they hate military and history.
Nah UA-cam is incompetent more than evil.. regularly seems to forget my subscriptions to all kinds of channels which gets very annying.
Let's not forget the exploits of Herman bix in the east in 1945.action on skull hill. In east Prussia.
that's fucking massive
does it have a working engine in it?
What's inside this one? TFP
Interesting comment about barrel life with a liner giving over 6,000 rounds life because in the Ukraine conflict the 155 mm howitzers have to change their barrels quite often. Replacement has become a problem there because of the amount of use they are getting.
Modern 155s a have quite more oumpf than 40s 88s. Also, I think the higher figure is for the gun itself, liners would have been swapped many times before then.
It maybe the video but the camouflage colours are wrong
Recoiless systems are extremely dangerous. To think they were going to install them with a breach inside the tank is kind of crazy. I'd rather have a reciprocating cannon in a tank compartment, than a solid breach that could blow apart if the gas pressure got too high from barrel fouling. Standard reciprocating cannons take a lot of the energy out of the weapon by turning it into mechanical advantage to cycle the breach and shell extraction.
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Some of your "facts" are incorrect, especially regarding the crew heater. The fan did not pull air "in", It's sole purpose was to expell hot air thus lowering the engine temperature, as the air was pulled in through the rectangular armor "grills" on the front and back of it through the radiators. Instead of expelling the hot air into the open, as you stated the "pie" wedges were placed in the installed "ring" around the top and the hot air heated the crew compartment. Your G 2 seams to be missing the "restrickters" on the port rectangular intakes which functioned to cause the engine temperature to run even "hotter" so more heat was pumped into the crew compartment as the whole system was designed to deal with the bitter cold of the russian winters.
How did a Australian collector get these tanks , I thought there would be tough bidding to get these relics
Krupp=> "kroop"
JASON, with respect, all AFV's have hulls, never a chassis. Look up the definition of chassis in any English language dictionary 🙂
All that effort to get extra life out of guns that typically never got close to wearing out on actual service vehicles before the vehicle its self was lost. German industrial policy in a nutshell....
Send it to Ukraine.
no
The rain in Spain stays mainly in the plain.
Great video👍🏻
Great story👍🏻
But please it's "kroupp" not "krap"..🫣