Thanks Chuck I just got the same board this was really helpful. I tried to use my Yamaha pedal in the sustain Jack but it is wired opposite. When you plug it in the sustain is on full and you have to press to sustain etc. I have an expression pedal I’ll have to try this. I agree the pedal that comes with it is pretty cheap.
Good idea. I object to paying $100 for that 3 pedal that only works on Casio due to the special fitting. For an on/off sustain pedal, get the $13 pedal from China with the polarity switch. Casio and Roland use different polarity, thus not interchangeable. Get the pedal with the polarity switch, so you can use it on any keyboard. Is there a way to turn the fast to slow Leslie sound on a Casio with a foot switch? How does one set it up? Casio cdp235r.
I can see why it isn't usual practise to supply a single half damper pedal. Small pedals move around so much. You need a very heavy pedal, or something to fix the pedal in place if you want to control half damping properly. Maybe Chuck's magic shoe sole trick works fine on loose half damper pedals (or maybe not) but I want pedals that work with all my shoes. In my Yamaha P-255 setup I have a triple pedal unit built into the optional stand plinth thing. Previously, I had bought the optional single half damper pedal, but that was impossible to control finely enough for half damping - not without glueing it to the floor. So that got returned! Now I just use a standard pedal on gigs. And I agree with Chuck about the spare small switch pedal. I always keep one in my car, plus a multi voltage power unit, and spare leads and so on. The day comes when you forget something from your main kit. These things have saved a few gigs already. Manufactureres could consider making a small amp or subwoofer (to go in front of you feet) with half damper and expression pedals that attach or even fold down from the back. That would be cool. And perhaps the Casio triple pedal unit is a bit skimpy on size, but I find the idea of a portable triple unit with half pedal damping rather attractive. Should be a bit more stable than a single pedal.
Yes, cheap pedals slide around all over the place. One pedal I used to use was a Roland single damper pedal. On the bottom, the flip rubber can be rotated 180 degrees. This makes the pedal long so your heal rests on the rubber, toe on the pedal. This prevents the moving around. But, watch out for the polarity! That Roland damper pedal is a different polarity than a Casio keyboard, so it will not work on all keyboards. Thus, I went back to the cheap $13 pedals that slide around, but have a polarity switch, thus can universally used on any keyboard.
The SP-34 stays put for me even on my hardwood floor at home. Still, for gigs I recently started taking along a small thin area rug that my whole setup sits on, and now everything stays in place. The springs on the SP-34 feel at least as tight as my Yamaha half-damper pedals so it has a nice solid feel under my foot.
Does the real piano pedal has half damping too? I play only electric VST piano on midi keyboard. I think the virtual pianos have automatic sustain, they are not totally dry staccato.
I know that the cheap damper pedal can be set to do "fills" on the Casio PX-s3000.. My question is,... can you likewise reprogram one of the "optional triple pedals" to do "fills" also. My old Roland FP-80 can do that with the optional Roland triple pedal. I am looking for a lighter weight keyboard for gigs. Excellent tip regarding the use of a expression pedal for sustain control.
Thanks for trying. I will probably use your suggestion to use an expression pedal for sustain and the cheap included sustain switch for fill control. @@PianoManChuck
Thank you so much Chuck! Anybody? Is there a way to use an expression pedal for half damping and/or varied degrees of sustain on the StudioLogic Numa Compact 2? Also for the Nord Electro 6D? (piano sounds) I have been having a blast playing drums with feet while playing keyboard. Right foot Roland KD9 triggering kick and left foot Roland KD9 triggering snare. A little sustain would be awesome.
Thx for the question Keith, I'm also very interested in the answer, as I have just ordered a PXS3000 yesterday, and am expecting it's delivery next week. Chuck, I would also like to know if the damper pedal jack is supporting half pedaling, I couldn't find this information anywhere on the net. I did read that this is true for the Kawai ES110 or the Roland FP30....
Hi Chuck, are you going to show the new feature allowing to switch the registrations using a pedal? It can be quite useful for songs where you have to switch multiple times.
No - they all look like (or similar to) the ProLine expression pedal shown here. The only "acoustic-looking" pedals are the ones that offer the same function as their equivalent on an acoustic piano.
@@PianoManChuck Thank you. Appreciate the feedback and love your videos. I see Mission Engineer makes an EP line that offers a spring-loaded function....would love to know your thoughts on that.
Not particularily familiar with half-dampening pedaling yet, but if you want to set the pedal at a spesific level / value, as with a expression pedal which has no spring, could you not just simply set up the nob above the pitch bend wheel to control the dampening... Not an ideal solution if you want to change the dampening levels often while playing, but if you want to have the dampening at a certain level throughtout the song then it could work, given if the software allows for assigning the nob to dampening.
Anybody know if half damping pedals will work on a old casio VZ 1 ? The questions being will a half damper do that or just be a regular sustain ? If so, do I need just a regular pedal ?
Hey, Chuck. With the three pedal unit, I've had the plug work it's way out slightly, causing individual keys to sustain (usually 1-3 or so out of the 88). With no foot on the sustain pedal, these keys sustain indefinitely until the plug is pushed back in all of the way. Have you seen this behavior with your keyboard and triple pedal unit at all? I'm wondering if I have a faulty plug or port, or if it's just a marginal design.
@@n.cmkandla9082 Embarassingly enough, on mine, I found that the plug just wasn't seated well in the port. Try unplugging it, double-checking the orientation (there's a plastic alignment tab in the middle), and plugging it back in. There isn't a click, but you can tell when it seats properly.
I dislike the tripple pedal, i once owned one with the smaller pedals, and it didn't work for me. its just like with keys for me, normal piano size or not at all..
You should try out the SP-34. It feels great and works really well. The 3 pedals are nicely spaced and have stiff springs, so they feel pretty piano-like under your feet. Since it has a wide profile it really grabs the floor and doesn't move around under your feet like a single pedal. I've been using it on a bare wood floor and it stays put.
Having the keyboard sustaining all the time is a problem because it does not allow you change pedal when there is a chord change. It makes the music very muddy to have the pedal down at all times. It is like what most beginning or bad students do. They put their foot down and forget to change pedals when it is time for a new chord.
That's fine if you're only going to be playing piano... remember, there's hundreds of other instruments in this board that are not played the way you'd expect to play piano.
@@PianoManChuck Perhaps this is a valid comment in pop music, but not for classical piano players. I will never allow my students to put their foot down all the time on the pedal. My teachers would never allow me to do that either. I doubt that Lang Lang or Yuja Wang would do this on their Steinway pianos. Why would I encourage my students to start blurring their piano sound because they do not have the proper pedal to play properly. Of course, we are talking about an expression pedal, a work around in the event their is no other alternative. So for certain sound effects, it may create a certain atmosphere that blurry sounds are desired.
super helpful, thanks for such a great and understandable explanation!!
You're very welcome!
Thanks Chuck! I am enjoying my PX S3100. Good idea!
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Great and useful explanation ! thanks !
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you Chuck very well explained and I found very helpful.
Thanks Chuck I just got the same board this was really helpful. I tried to use my Yamaha pedal in the sustain Jack but it is wired opposite. When you plug it in the sustain is on full and you have to press to sustain etc. I have an expression pedal I’ll have to try this. I agree the pedal that comes with it is pretty cheap.
Thank you so much! Your videos are so helpful!
Tengo un nux npk10, y viene con pedal, pero uno simple. Se puede adaptar un triple pedal korg pu2 funcionará.
Great video! Thanks Piano Man Chuck!
The Richard Stallman of music.
Helpful stuff - thanks Chuck!
Good idea. I object to paying $100 for that 3 pedal that only works on Casio due to the special fitting. For an on/off sustain pedal, get the $13 pedal from China with the polarity switch. Casio and Roland use different polarity, thus not interchangeable. Get the pedal with the polarity switch, so you can use it on any keyboard. Is there a way to turn the fast to slow Leslie sound on a Casio with a foot switch? How does one set it up? Casio cdp235r.
Thanks again. Valuable information. Start with ProLine expression pedal and see where you want to go from there.
I can see why it isn't usual practise to supply a single half damper pedal. Small pedals move around so much. You need a very heavy pedal, or something to fix the pedal in place if you want to control half damping properly. Maybe Chuck's magic shoe sole trick works fine on loose half damper pedals (or maybe not) but I want pedals that work with all my shoes.
In my Yamaha P-255 setup I have a triple pedal unit built into the optional stand plinth thing. Previously, I had bought the optional single half damper pedal, but that was impossible to control finely enough for half damping - not without glueing it to the floor. So that got returned! Now I just use a standard pedal on gigs.
And I agree with Chuck about the spare small switch pedal. I always keep one in my car, plus a multi voltage power unit, and spare leads and so on. The day comes when you forget something from your main kit. These things have saved a few gigs already.
Manufactureres could consider making a small amp or subwoofer (to go in front of you feet) with half damper and expression pedals that attach or even fold down from the back. That would be cool.
And perhaps the Casio triple pedal unit is a bit skimpy on size, but I find the idea of a portable triple unit with half pedal damping rather attractive. Should be a bit more stable than a single pedal.
There ARE manufacturers that include a single half-damper with some of their higher end products (Kawai, Korg for example).
Yes, cheap pedals slide around all over the place. One pedal I used to use was a Roland single damper pedal. On the bottom, the flip rubber can be rotated 180 degrees. This makes the pedal long so your heal rests on the rubber, toe on the pedal. This prevents the moving around. But, watch out for the polarity! That Roland damper pedal is a different polarity than a Casio keyboard, so it will not work on all keyboards. Thus, I went back to the cheap $13 pedals that slide around, but have a polarity switch, thus can universally used on any keyboard.
@@PianoManChuck Yamaha used to include a half-damper with their P-series, but I don't think they do anymore. :-(
The SP-34 stays put for me even on my hardwood floor at home. Still, for gigs I recently started taking along a small thin area rug that my whole setup sits on, and now everything stays in place. The springs on the SP-34 feel at least as tight as my Yamaha half-damper pedals so it has a nice solid feel under my foot.
do you get a foot paddle for a Casio keyboard that change keys.....I am a one man band...and need something like that...
Just what I was looking for, EXCEPT that I have a S1000 and advanced pedal programming isn't an option :(
Does the real piano pedal has half damping too? I play only electric VST piano on midi keyboard. I think the virtual pianos have automatic sustain, they are not totally dry staccato.
Thank you!! Was trying to solve this
Great Tip Chuck! What about if you want soft pedal? can it be set for that? or would you need the expensive 3 pedal unit to get that?
Thanks a lot!
What a great tip Chick. Thanks. 👍
What is the model for the expression pedal you have there?
Congratulations. Your video has helped me a lot
Proline PXP1
PianoManChuck I can’t find it here in Canada. Could you recommend me another?
Does a Yamaha FC7 pedal work with the 3000? Would the choice of Type 1/2 pedals make that possible?
Thanks in advance for all the vids & advice.
Great tip Bro i think id use this instead
Always good
I know that the cheap damper pedal can be set to do "fills" on the Casio PX-s3000.. My question is,... can you likewise reprogram one of the "optional triple pedals" to do "fills" also. My old Roland FP-80 can do that with the optional Roland triple pedal. I am looking for a lighter weight keyboard for gigs. Excellent tip regarding the use of a expression pedal for sustain control.
I just scrolled through the options for the triple pedal and did not see that as an option.
Thanks for trying. I will probably use your suggestion to use an expression pedal for sustain and the cheap included sustain switch for fill control. @@PianoManChuck
Sadly, the SP-34 functions are preset to sustain, sostenuto and soft only. They can't be changed to other functions. Bummer!
What is "fills"?
It triggers a accomplishment pattern change to break the monotony of a drum beat. @@amitev
Chuck, is the 3 pedals unit progressive on sustain or it has like 3 position sort of off, a little, 100%? Thanks
Nice video! Does the workaround with the expression pedal work with the Casio PX 560 as well?
Have you tried dp10 or fc3a with pxs3000?
Can you use the casio cdp-s350 in a similar way? With an expression pedal?
Thank you so much Chuck! Anybody? Is there a way to use an expression pedal for half damping and/or varied degrees of sustain on the StudioLogic Numa Compact 2? Also for the Nord Electro 6D? (piano sounds) I have been having a blast playing drums with feet while playing keyboard. Right foot Roland KD9 triggering kick and left foot Roland KD9 triggering snare. A little sustain would be awesome.
Thx for the question Keith, I'm also very interested in the answer, as I have just ordered a PXS3000 yesterday, and am expecting it's delivery next week.
Chuck, I would also like to know if the damper pedal jack is supporting half pedaling, I couldn't find this information anywhere on the net. I did read that this is true for the Kawai ES110 or the Roland FP30....
Sp 34 compatibile con px 360?
No.
Hi Chuck, are you going to show the new feature allowing to switch the registrations using a pedal? It can be quite useful for songs where you have to switch multiple times.
This is probably a stupid question....Is there a traditional acoustic (proline) looking pedal that has the function of the expression pedal?
No - they all look like (or similar to) the ProLine expression pedal shown here. The only "acoustic-looking" pedals are the ones that offer the same function as their equivalent on an acoustic piano.
@@PianoManChuck Thank you. Appreciate the feedback and love your videos. I see Mission Engineer makes an EP line that offers a spring-loaded function....would love to know your thoughts on that.
Hey PMC can u use 2 pedals like the expression pedal and the damper sustain pedal is there 2 plugs ?
Hi PMC, can you use this technique with the 1000?
No, there's no "expression pedal" jack on the 1000.
Thank's Chuck. I know I speak for many when I say you have great and informative channel.
can this be done with a korg krome?? do you have a link thanks you are an awsome teacher new subscriber here
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Hi. Is the 3 pedal compatible for yamaha keyboard? I have a yamaha mx49
No
Not particularily familiar with half-dampening pedaling yet, but if you want to set the pedal at a spesific level / value, as with a expression pedal which has no spring, could you not just simply set up the nob above the pitch bend wheel to control the dampening... Not an ideal solution if you want to change the dampening levels often while playing, but if you want to have the dampening at a certain level throughtout the song then it could work, given if the software allows for assigning the nob to dampening.
Good idea but Sustain is not something that can be assigned to a knob here.
Anybody know if half damping pedals will work on a old casio VZ 1 ? The questions being will a half damper do that or just be a regular sustain ? If so, do I need just a regular pedal ?
Hey, Chuck. With the three pedal unit, I've had the plug work it's way out slightly, causing individual keys to sustain (usually 1-3 or so out of the 88). With no foot on the sustain pedal, these keys sustain indefinitely until the plug is pushed back in all of the way. Have you seen this behavior with your keyboard and triple pedal unit at all? I'm wondering if I have a faulty plug or port, or if it's just a marginal design.
Hi I’m interested to know if you found a solution to this as I’m having the same issue. Thanks
@@n.cmkandla9082 Embarassingly enough, on mine, I found that the plug just wasn't seated well in the port. Try unplugging it, double-checking the orientation (there's a plastic alignment tab in the middle), and plugging it back in. There isn't a click, but you can tell when it seats properly.
Hi Chuck can you use any brand expression pedal for this digital piano? Thanks for your great content
Not that I know of
Great
I dislike the tripple pedal, i once owned one with the smaller pedals, and it didn't work for me. its just like with keys for me, normal piano size or not at all..
You should try out the SP-34. It feels great and works really well. The 3 pedals are nicely spaced and have stiff springs, so they feel pretty piano-like under your feet. Since it has a wide profile it really grabs the floor and doesn't move around under your feet like a single pedal. I've been using it on a bare wood floor and it stays put.
Can this be used on a Casio px160
The triple-pedal and expression pedal shown will NOT work with a PX-160.
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Having the keyboard sustaining all the time is a problem because it does not allow you change pedal when there is a chord change. It makes the music very muddy to have the pedal down at all times. It is like what most beginning or bad students do. They put their foot down and forget to change pedals when it is time for a new chord.
That's fine if you're only going to be playing piano... remember, there's hundreds of other instruments in this board that are not played the way you'd expect to play piano.
@@PianoManChuck Perhaps this is a valid comment in pop music, but not for classical piano players. I will never allow my students to put their foot down all the time on the pedal. My teachers would never allow me to do that either. I doubt that Lang Lang or Yuja Wang would do this on their Steinway pianos. Why would I encourage my students to start blurring their piano sound because they do not have the proper pedal to play properly. Of course, we are talking about an expression pedal, a work around in the event their is no other alternative. So for certain sound effects, it may create a certain atmosphere that blurry sounds are desired.