Mercedes 300 SEL 6.3 versus S320 cdi

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  • 400 meter sprint 300 SEL 6.3 '69 versus S320 CDI van '00

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  • @lasseihaninge950
    @lasseihaninge950 9 років тому +49

    My dad used to have one of these back in about 1971-1972. Before this car, he used to have a Pontiac Bonneville, and when he told us (the family) that he was planning to buy a Mercedes, all of us kids (4 of us) were very disappointed. That feeling changed fast when our dad took us on our first ride. The kick-down was extreme. Eventually, I got used to this fast car... At that time, traffic safety wasn't a big deal, so my dad used to let me sit between the front seets and have my left foot on the gas pedal. (Well, not in residential areas). Being spoiled with this "fastest sedan in the world at the time", it was awkward for me one day, when I went riding a friends dad's car. A brand new Volvo 142. This guy, the dad, was so proud of his new car, so he wanted to impress with a kick-down. Being 'bout ten, I wasn't so politically correct. He put the pedal to the metal and then asked me "How about that?"... I replied "How about what?". Unintentionally I really hurt that guys feelings. Eventually, my dad traded this 6.3 to a MB 450SEL, which was heavier and also had a weaker engine. A big loss IMO.

    • @matsflodin4943
      @matsflodin4943 2 роки тому

      Where is the S600L? 2002´s correpondent to the 6.3. MB said that the 6.3 made 0-100 in 6,5 seconds and that the top speed was 220 kph. Most motor periodical tests had much lower figures. My 2020 little B-class 250e makes 0-100 in 6.8 seconds and has a top speed of 235 kmh according to MB. If you cut off half of the trunk of the 300SEL, the inner and outer dimensions of the W109 are almost identical to my little B-Class. By american standards the W109 was a compact car. Time changes, and even in 1969 the 6.3 was no dragster. Most Chevrolets and Fords would easily shut the 6.3 down.

    • @S70AMG
      @S70AMG Рік тому

      @@matsflodin4943 keep lying to yourself ultranationalist goofball.
      First of all w109 wasnt compact by any standards in America, it was a classified land yacht that was made before all the garbage american cars with useless 10 feet overhangs.
      2nd of all, it was the fucking fastest sedan even when compared to the utter garbage lincoln and cadillacs with sub 9 liter engines.
      3rd of all no chevy or ford was doing times like the 6.3 back then, not even quad barrel carb dodges. Keep lying to yourself brainless mongolian goat herder.

    • @matsflodin4943
      @matsflodin4943 Рік тому

      @@S70AMG Let´s stay with facts. Already in 1960 a standard full-size Ford Fairlane 360 hp 352 made 7.9 seconds 0-60 mph (without radial tires) and had a top speed of 152 mph at Ford´s Dearborn test circuit.. Muscle versions of full size cars had similar and better figures all through the 1960´s and they could with small changes even compete in NASCAR. Most regular street Impalas and Galaxies had 300+ horsepower. It all got even worse towards the later part of the 60´s when small Mustangs, Camaros, Firebirds, Chargers, Challengers etc. came in, most of them with big V8´s. You cannot seriously believe that a 6.3 would stand a chance against a 1969 Mustang Boss 429 or a compact Chevy II Nova SS 350/396 of which about 20.000 were sold only in 1969. I am born 1950 and have experienced the muscle car days that were ended in 1971 by the insurance companies. The 6.3 which was about the same size as the 1969 compact Chevy II looked like a miniature along side all truly full size cars. It´s performance was almost exactly the the same as a 1985 MB W126 280SE i owned, more modern and efficient, with a top speed of 220 kmph and 0-100 kmph in about 8-9 seconds, which was the true figure also for the 6.3. Its reputaion is based on being much faster than most Europeans cars of the day. In America it was a status car with high quality. Few people would race with it in the streets. I like Mecedes, but I also like facts more than nostalgic dreams. The reason Mecedes for once lied about the 0-100 performance was that the new modern 3.5 V8 engine which appeared a little later had nearly the same performance as the 6.3 in the W109. The German magazine Auto Motor und Sport in 1971 tested a 320 hp AMG version of the W 109 6.3 and came up with a 0-100 figure of 7.2! End of story.

    • @S70AMG
      @S70AMG Рік тому

      @@matsflodin4943 you are damaged in the head.

    • @matsflodin4943
      @matsflodin4943 Рік тому

      The land yacht was the truly full size Mercedes 600, also with the 6.3 engine, but a bit slower.

  • @MrGoldenwaffler
    @MrGoldenwaffler 9 років тому +102

    The music ruined the whole video

  • @VilleVallaton76
    @VilleVallaton76 8 років тому +111

    Interesting comparison... But WHY this music?! I bet most of the car enthusiasts would like to hear the engine sounds alone:)

    • @aa2398a
      @aa2398a 7 років тому +8

      YES!

    • @mercedesbenzformula1
      @mercedesbenzformula1 5 років тому +7

      Yes

    • @ThePixelsony
      @ThePixelsony 3 роки тому +6

      Yeahh the music remind me of Power Rangers series for kids…. The background music just so inmature for this kind of content…

    • @touraneindanke
      @touraneindanke 2 роки тому +2

      A B S O L U T E L Y !

    • @louisholland3057
      @louisholland3057 2 роки тому +1

      If they had to but rock Iron Maiden is a good choice

  • @svenlabots1869
    @svenlabots1869 Рік тому +3

    This looks like it's shot at the abandoned military runway in Weelde, Belgium. Great to do some serious speedrecords.😉

  • @KaiserPingo
    @KaiserPingo 10 років тому +37

    Why that idiotic music !!! :-(

  • @candymintz
    @candymintz 11 років тому +19

    Thanks for the verification. I recall Mercedes making that announcement in 1970 that the car was capable of 153 MPH. When I owned my 6.3 in 1977 I could get 90 MPH in second gear, it was lightning fast, and it had fabulous brakes, a superb motor vehicle.

    • @adamflorio6203
      @adamflorio6203 4 роки тому

      The 300 SEL 6.3 wasn't released until March 1968.

    • @demetridar506
      @demetridar506 3 роки тому

      Top speed of these cars was 134 mph, rpm limited. They ran out of engine speed. The 1/4 mile time sometimes is shown as 14 seconds, but it was mid 15's. Its only 250 hp and 4 sp auto.

    • @luciadatri2373
      @luciadatri2373 Рік тому

      @@demetridar506 and 500Nm of torque…

    • @demetridar506
      @demetridar506 Рік тому +1

      @@luciadatri2373 Yes, but it is a low rpm engine. You could buy a Chrysler 300 in 1968 with the TNT 440 option with about half the money or less. It would be about as fast in acceleration, and a bit more top speed. If you specified a 2.94 or 2.76 gear ratio, it would be a lot faster in top speed than the Benz. The car itself is much bigger and roomier. A lot easier to repair and maintain.

    • @WeeShoeyDugless
      @WeeShoeyDugless Рік тому +1

      ​@@demetridar506
      Are you seriously comparing a Chrysler with a Mercedes?
      What year did Chrysler (or any other US car) get rid of the horse cart chassis and rear cart leaf springs?

  • @candymintz
    @candymintz 11 років тому +8

    This from wiki:
    The Mercedes-Benz 300 SEL 6.3 is a luxury car built by Mercedes Benz from 1968 to 1972.
    6.3 litre V8 with Bosch fuel injection, 250 PS (184 kW; 247 hp), 300 HP SAE
    Performance 0-62 mph (100 km/h): 5.7 seconds
    0-100 mph (160 km/h) : 14.6 seconds
    Standing 1/4 mile (~400 m) : 14.2 seconds
    Top Speed : 229 km/h (142.3 mph)†
    † Factory figures

  • @ChevyBM
    @ChevyBM Рік тому +1

    The old 6.3 is a beast! Just imagine how fast it must have felt back in the days!

  • @englishlessons462
    @englishlessons462 3 роки тому +1

    That the 320 was still in the picture is a great accomplishment.

  • @riaanpotgieter475
    @riaanpotgieter475 2 роки тому +2

    Wow! I really thought that the old Benz was gonna be the loser. That old Benz is still good! Luv it.

  • @iuopunderstandyourjokes9914
    @iuopunderstandyourjokes9914 5 місяців тому

    Nice to see that all old mercedes auto transmissions shift way to early. Always gotta go through the gears manually when merging onto the autobahn in my w126 280s

  • @allettf4804
    @allettf4804 2 роки тому +1

    Le progrès réalisé sur les moteurs diesel de dernière génération est époustouflant dommage que l ont arrete , le diesel avait encor un bel avenir

  • @matsisaksson7192
    @matsisaksson7192 9 років тому +8

    Amazing! Such a nice old car:)

  • @alanaliyev456GT
    @alanaliyev456GT 4 роки тому +3

    A quiet modern sedan vs an old quasi supercar....supercar on day ..supercar forever

  • @candymintz
    @candymintz 11 років тому +5

    I owned a 300 SEL 6.3 in 1976 when I lived in the U.K. that was one fast car...in 1970 Mercedes claimed the car to be the fastest 4 door production car in the world at 153 MPH.. the 1969.Maserati Qutraporte was faster but perhaps that was not considered a production car......I drove one....

  • @lorisrotelli145
    @lorisrotelli145 3 роки тому +5

    300SEL 6.3 forever and ever...
    even when loser...
    300SEL 6.3 is...history (or a true icon)
    S320 CDI is... only a good car...

  • @mikeroberts5646
    @mikeroberts5646 2 роки тому

    I,d rather have the white one anyday,Nostalgia is where it’s at
    Thanks for sharing Cheers from the USA

  • @ssalamri7302
    @ssalamri7302 2 роки тому

    1969 the last good years for a lot of cars man I wish I was around beautiful cars every where with big V8 great time for cars guys

  • @kevinhabener1279
    @kevinhabener1279 3 роки тому +8

    I'd take that good old 6.3 any day of the week. The newer one just really is not the same.

    • @Jack-bz7vq
      @Jack-bz7vq Рік тому +1

      I agree. May be the new car have all modern Features and fast, but the 108/109 was the perfect car for me.

    • @kevinhabener1279
      @kevinhabener1279 Рік тому

      @@Jack-bz7vq You and me both.

    • @WeeShoeyDugless
      @WeeShoeyDugless Рік тому

      The engine in the newer car is a beast of an engine, probably the toughest diesel built!
      There is a company in the UK who regularly tune them up to 680BHP & export them all over the world.
      Fantastic engines!!

  • @evanbarr9270
    @evanbarr9270 2 роки тому +1

    the 6.3 is shifting out of 1st &2 nd at a extremely low rpm .

  • @АннаЗагузина-ь2ь
    @АннаЗагузина-ь2ь 2 роки тому +1

    Старые мерсы шикарны!

  • @ilpatino2905
    @ilpatino2905 12 років тому +2

    Actually, I used (as the former owner) 1% of ATF-oil in the fuel. But certainly not 2-stroke oil! It cloggs up the highly sensitive injectors, and more important, it DOES NOT lubricate the MFP, where as ATF oil does! To put a finer point on it; ATF oil is (partly) a detergent for the newer fuels that tend to varnish up when the car isn't used very often. 2-stroke oil is NOT up to that task. So please DO NOT add 2-stroke oil to fuel passing through a MFP but use ATF oil instead.

  • @paoloalcantara2465
    @paoloalcantara2465 6 років тому +5

    I want that 6.3!!!!

  • @GPatuleiaMarques
    @GPatuleiaMarques 12 років тому +1

    Are you saying sir, that that V6 Common-rail diesel (which is a highly complex engine where there are millions of bits where something can go wrong) is more reliable than that bomb-proof M100 engine? Diesel engines are generally more reliable than Petrol ones, but not in this case...

  • @Dodger2204
    @Dodger2204 12 років тому +3

    That was hilarious! Bravo for the '69!!

  • @evanbarr9270
    @evanbarr9270 2 роки тому

    the 6.3 does not rev to red line or even close in 1-2 ,2-3 shift .their actually low 15 sec.1/4 mile cars in stock form.,with very tall highway gears.tops out at 137.mph .

  • @Haffschlappe
    @Haffschlappe 12 років тому +1

    No No a well known Gernan Mercedes Benz engineer (developing the modern CDi Taxi Diesel engines) tells us Two Stroke oil API TC TYpe is the best you can do.
    Bosch Germany Koller and Schwemmer tells us here allways use the API TC two stroke oil in older petrol cars too, especial when using modern ethanolized fuels in old fuel injections.
    The do not recommend ATF at all.

  • @oliverlock7160
    @oliverlock7160 2 роки тому

    Wonder if the 204 3.2 CDI would beat it? Must be in S mode as well

  • @DerSchlens
    @DerSchlens 11 років тому +1

    Actually the 137mph number seems about pretty dead on. That's 220kph. Taking into account some power loss due to US emissions regulations, that could very well be. The actual claimed top speed was 229kph/140some mph.

  • @touraneindanke
    @touraneindanke 2 роки тому

    Aftermarket shocks one the back of the 69?
    The stand is somewhat off unfortunately 💔

  • @stefanreiman3527
    @stefanreiman3527 2 роки тому

    This W109 looks so mean
    Awesome Car

  • @MagicMike87
    @MagicMike87 3 роки тому +1

    Good,old V8💪🔥

  • @matthiashallmann6336
    @matthiashallmann6336 8 років тому +4

    The Automatic Gear box of the 6.3. shifts much to early.
    Correctly tuned the 6.3. is much much faster than the boring Diesel!
    300 SEL 6.3 = 6.4s 0/100kmh, 320 CDI = 8.8s 0/100kmh

  • @JackpodyDK
    @JackpodyDK 11 років тому

    Cam is not right. The top speed was 153 mp/h.

  • @ionelpatrunjel5536
    @ionelpatrunjel5536 3 роки тому

    And they say that eco engien is a advance engenired engien that give you more pawor whit les energi.

  • @Haffschlappe
    @Haffschlappe 12 років тому

    never forget, allways add 1% two stroke oil to the fuel, todays fuel destroys the old injection of the vintage cars, in Germany MERCEDES and BOSCH suggest allways add some little two stroke oil to the fuel in old cars (Diesel AND benzine cars!)

  • @dietznutz1
    @dietznutz1 2 роки тому

    She's still got it

  • @rezamotori5709
    @rezamotori5709 2 роки тому

    difference between a car that was made to last a lifetime and a car that was made like a smartphone!

  • @Tniudu
    @Tniudu 4 роки тому +1

    Why complain 2x bigger engine?

    • @jz5937
      @jz5937 3 роки тому +1

      No turbocharger and 30 plus years difference.

  • @candymintz
    @candymintz 11 років тому

    1971 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.3 #5810 R.I.P. vid on YT read the comments

  • @jordanbosc2795
    @jordanbosc2795 2 роки тому

    I love Mercedes

  • @BIZONIK5
    @BIZONIK5 11 років тому

    Grandmother!

  • @urbanturbine
    @urbanturbine 6 років тому +1

    Giant V8 gasser vs economic 6cyl diesel is not a fair race...

    • @ericapikian5971
      @ericapikian5971 3 роки тому

      CDI driver, He doesn't know how to drive a diesel.

  • @fahchouchewazharma3andouch124
    @fahchouchewazharma3andouch124 2 роки тому

    Imbelivable

  • @tonilautamaki7275
    @tonilautamaki7275 2 роки тому

    SEL says "not today, boy".

  • @franktaymans1802
    @franktaymans1802 3 роки тому +1

    Spijtig van de (muziek?)!

    • @marcelhaan7221
      @marcelhaan7221 2 роки тому

      Heel spijtig. Reden om het niet af te kijken.

  • @leonidbreschenyev9749
    @leonidbreschenyev9749 11 років тому +3

    hurra 6.3 faster ma ist march 1968

  • @allettf4804
    @allettf4804 2 роки тому

    Belle performance pour un mazout

  • @B3LCH0C
    @B3LCH0C 3 роки тому

    Zalig, wat een biejest, die 300 SEL

  • @fralust
    @fralust 11 років тому

    Both these figures are inaccurate. The 300 SEL 6.3 was one of the world's quickest production sedans in the day but not that quick.

  • @camirocz
    @camirocz 11 років тому

    137 mph was the correct top speed of the mercedes 6.3 in 69 and 69

  • @JPGtampa
    @JPGtampa 10 місяців тому +1

    Could do without the bad music tho 🫤

  • @nikvandeneede1228
    @nikvandeneede1228 3 роки тому

    waar is dit gefilmd

  • @pf-2292
    @pf-2292 3 роки тому

    Is it electrical cars?

  • @anzof5361
    @anzof5361 2 роки тому

    60 ların 2000 leri geçmesi inanılmaz

  • @horacio1464
    @horacio1464 12 років тому

    300 SEL FTW!

  • @karl-heinzburke3730
    @karl-heinzburke3730 4 роки тому

    300SEL 6,3 einfach geil

  • @mdcars1468
    @mdcars1468 6 років тому

    Hey halo ik had gezien dat jullie van belgie zijn moesten jullie mercedes Liefhebbers zijn en nog een mooie benz in u bezit heeft dan bent u altijd welkom op 2 september in damme moerkerke mercedes mijn passie de 5de editie vorig jaar 164 mercedessen bijeen is met rondrit meer info op facebook mercedes mijn passie

  • @antoniociampo7698
    @antoniociampo7698 2 роки тому +1

    Vecchia a chi*🤐👌👍🏅1⃣👏💯

  • @ssb4c
    @ssb4c 13 років тому

    awesome

  • @max5635
    @max5635 11 років тому +1

    geil :D

  • @allettf4804
    @allettf4804 2 роки тому

    Les derniers v8 diesel allemand affiche 450 chevaux

  • @huudamu1884
    @huudamu1884 2 роки тому

    300sel is nice

  • @candymintz
    @candymintz 11 років тому +1

    II disagree...I'll write to Mercedes Benz.

  • @VRsixth
    @VRsixth 12 років тому +2

    300 SEL - 2 MPG
    320 CDI -22 MPG :D

    • @blanktemplate4415
      @blanktemplate4415 7 років тому +1

      VRsixth You mean 13 MPG.

    • @illinoisvisuals
      @illinoisvisuals 4 роки тому +2

      @@blanktemplate4415 this guy missed the point, you buy one of these for the raw mad power and iconic styling, who gives a shit about economy 😂

    • @lorisrotelli145
      @lorisrotelli145 3 роки тому

      ...simply... doesn't matter....at all!!!

  • @nikvandeneede1228
    @nikvandeneede1228 3 роки тому +2

    terrible music

  • @kevinslater7401
    @kevinslater7401 Рік тому

    Iron maiden 🤘

  • @alanaliyev456GT
    @alanaliyev456GT 4 роки тому

    If rhey want do comoete this 6.3 w108 With a W220 ...... they must choice a v8 (the smalldest...the s420)

    • @renek243
      @renek243 3 роки тому

      even then the 300 SEL would be faster, even the 5 litre V8 S500 wouldn't pull away from it (both 0-100 in 6.5 sec.) . From the 220 series, you have to have an S55 AMG to be faster than this 30 year older W109, pretty impressive.

    • @alanaliyev456GT
      @alanaliyev456GT 3 роки тому

      @@renek243 i prefer my w140 408hp 48v than my w220 367 hp 36 v 30years is not old for a MB

    • @renek243
      @renek243 3 роки тому

      @@alanaliyev456GT no, but I meant the W109 is 30 years older than the W220 , obviously the W109 is much older now.

  • @borillkageza1443
    @borillkageza1443 2 роки тому

    you cant race a diesel vs a v8.

  • @ionelpatrunjel5536
    @ionelpatrunjel5536 3 роки тому

    31 year.s of non evolutione.

  • @TheVandemanable
    @TheVandemanable 12 років тому

    just goes to show that good old v8 power is better than diesel

  • @giomz1502
    @giomz1502 5 років тому

    Ui 6.3liter den hab ich mit einem e30 325i automatik!!! Aber mit 190ps stehen lassen kack Benz!!

    • @OkOk-hl7ly
      @OkOk-hl7ly 5 років тому

      Hahahahah du weisst schon was der 6.3 wiegt ne?😂 ist doch physikalisch gesehen logisch

    • @giomz1502
      @giomz1502 5 років тому

      @@OkOk-hl7ly Ja ich kenne die Autos 6.3er oder 6.9er das sind richtig geile Autos kann man nix sagen war ja eher auch mehr Spass von mir mit kack Benz.es ging nur darum da hier die Ältere Generation von uns die Autos in den 80er alle gehabt haben und man der Meinung heute halt noch ist das es nix schnelleres gibt!aber da wurden die halt eines besseren belehrt das es halt mit dem E30 nicht zu spassen ist.aber der 6.3 ist schon ein Geschoss manche wurden schon mit 285ps und mehr gemessen ist halt ein Alter Dinosaurier auf speed😂

  • @erdalmese1213
    @erdalmese1213 5 років тому

    iste buna gercek yer ucagi derim

  • @anzof5361
    @anzof5361 3 роки тому

    60 lar 2000 ler

  • @johnfenn
    @johnfenn 3 роки тому +1

    Turn that stupid music off and i shall watch your video. Downvote.

  • @kyrkbymannen
    @kyrkbymannen 2 роки тому

    Snailrace

  • @zaidalkhalidi2387
    @zaidalkhalidi2387 2 роки тому

    Nice lie

  • @antonworishofer2167
    @antonworishofer2167 2 роки тому +1

    Deppen musik ausmachen, Mann

  • @windhuk37
    @windhuk37 2 роки тому +1

    dämliche musik!!

  • @schwabenwurttemberg5916
    @schwabenwurttemberg5916 3 роки тому

    Die Wagen kann man doch gar nicht vergleichen, Blödsinn.

    • @davidhenneberg6772
      @davidhenneberg6772 2 роки тому

      Na klar, beides s-Klassen nur mit 30 Jahren dazwischen, ein Vergleich zwischen Alt(geil) und neu(nicht so geil). Beide werden wohl auch um die 250ps Marke haben.

  • @MuhammadNadeem-gn4in
    @MuhammadNadeem-gn4in 4 роки тому

    New Mercedes is fail front of old one..

  • @tschatschomorsch1672
    @tschatschomorsch1672 7 років тому

    Alpina B9 E28 ist viel schneller als der 300sel 6.3