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Xbox One X No Signal HDMI Repair - Black Screen of Death
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- Опубліковано 11 кві 2019
- Xbox One X No Signal HDMI Repair - If you're not getting a signal with your Xbox One X two of the most common causes are either a bad hard drive or an HDMI problem. In this video I show you how to check both issues and how to repair an HDMI problem.
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About This Video: There's no signal from this Xbox One X so I take it apart and first check that the hard drive is working correctly. When that doesn't fix the problem I continue taking it apart to get the motherboard out so I can check the various HDMI components. I then replace the main HDMI (retimer) chip and then put everything back together to see if it works!
Were you surprised at what I did to fix it?
I was
TronicsFix no because you have magic hands that fix everything
@swarmx Ha, ha...magic hands!
@@Tronicsfix no because you dont show your gamer tag, how im supposed to stalk you
I was in disbelief you fixed a broken console lol 😜
I’ve never been so interested into repairing things until this channel I’ve gotten into fixing up cars and construction. Literally this channel started a career interest for me.
Love to hear that! Thanks for the comment.
@@Tronicsfix The drive that "works" which you use to test the Xbox, is it from another Xbox? Or an empty drive I just bought will do the trick?
Your info is spot on! I bought a dead Xbox One, and PS3 Fat for $50 combo deal. The guy said he had no idea what was wrong with either! I watched your video and heard you say "No video means either HDD problem, or HDMI problems". Swapped the HDD and BOOM it came on! I just made out like a bandit with your help! So happy, I hit the lottery for a change lol! Wow!
I really enjoy the hands on vibe I get with gour videos. Keep up the great content, I've watched many of your videos.
As an Xbox one X owner I thank you. I never realised that I may be able to fix mine if she ever has an issue. I've always wanted to move out of PC repair and into fixing my own consoles too and you are a huge help and inspiration. Plus I know who to go to if I mess it up hahaha
All I can say is WOW. But your right as any job,the more you do it ,and the secrets you find yourself,the easier it gets.
Good thing I have a timing chip laying around.
This killed me lmfao
🤣😂🤣
$10 on ebay.
Lmfao
Minus the 2,467 screws u have to remove
Well I’m screwed.
Another pro repair I always enjoy your Q tip cleaning when the day comes and i need help with diagnosis on problems I will use your videos for guidance
Glad you're enjoying these!
good detective work. it always help to find what is wrong if you have the right part for replacement to give it a try. keep up the good works
Thanks!
The design of the one s and the one x is very well though out. There is no wasted space, everything fits together nicely, and disassembly/reassembly is a breeze
Huge step up from the 360. That inaccessible clip on the back holding the two halves of the shell together gives me nightmares. After repasting mine I purposefully broke it off because it's such a pain in the ass.
Thanks for the video, man. My wife's console had this no signal issue. She took into a shop and they tried a different hard drive and replaced the HDMI ports. I think they tried something else but I can't remember what it was. I found your video on this and thought it was great, so I went back to the shop and had them replace that retiming chip. However this didn't fix my issue. I'm wondering if they used the right chip as they game me a different price than what I found online. I also had to wait a couple of weeks for them to get it. The chip that they installed does not appear to be clearly marked like the original. Anyway, is there any other possible issue other than the HDMI port, a different hard drive or this retiming chip that you can think of? Thanks in advance.
This was cool, I am currently experiencing this problem. How can these problems occur in the first place? That motherboard is like freaking Fort Knox.
Thanks for this, I cloned my xbox 1 X's hard drive, installed it and then nothing, blank screen...then you said that a common issue can be caused by the HD. So, I opened it back up only to find the sata cable wasn't seated properly, clicked it in closed it up and blammo! Fixed.
@TronicsFix, are you using an IR preheat plate under the board? I bought a replacement tip and have been holding hot air on the chip at about 800F and it will not come off. I think the heat is wicking away on the ground plane but wasn't sure if the components on the bottom side of the board would fall off.
Great video! My xbox one x display went last night. I might be starting a repair ticket through site soon.
W. Shields mine went tonight :( luckily under warranty
Great, thanks for explaining to us who are not electricians how to actually remove the hdmi chip and replacing it..
on god..
probably by the looks of things, add flux, use hot air station to heat the chip. delicately wriggle it until it is loose. remove it and replace with the replacement. wriggle that into place nicely. add more flux and hot air and then you should be done.
Just found your channel and have been binge watching :P I'd love it if you could get your hands on a RROD Xbox 360 and see if you can fix it.
Welcome to my channel!
RROD fix permanent requires replacement GPU. I've done this a few times and it takes a long time and a lot of patience to do properly.
@@Josh.Davidson the red ring of death happens because of bad thermal dissipation. Modern days a low temp solder is used and hte360 heted above the melt point of the solder used.
@@MolecularMindz No, that's completely and utterly false. Even if you take off the heatsink, the chip will reach roughly 95-100C (varies by revision), then enters the EC_THERMAL state. In this state, the fans run at max and the chips are held in reset (means they're not active, it's like the system is off). 2 red lights (not 3) flash on the front for phats, and the center light flashes red for slims, and the power button won't shut it off. Once it gets low enough, it will turn the fans off and wait for the user to restart it.
The temps never exceed that maximum, such is impossible. The solder melt temps of leaded is 183Cish, and the lead-free used on the 360 needs 217Cish. So not anywhere NEAR hot enough to melt it. That's all a giant myth.
In addition, the fans are drive dynamically by the SMC, not like the fixed fan curve of a PC, so the system has no thermal issues. It's one of the worst myths in the whole gaming industry and was created by people with no technical or engineering knowledge.
Lastly, the reason the towel trick temporary revives it is not because it melts solder. Because as I said that's impossible, it would shut down first. It's because the problem is the defective flip chip design in the GPU. Same problem many laptops had back then. Heat is known to fix defective flip chips for a very short period of time because is messes with the underfill and c4 bumps.
And also the Xenon CPU heats up far faster than the Xenos GPU even with the far bigger heatsink, in the original 90nm design on the units that failed. But yet the CPU is almost never failed.
@tronicsfix what temp do you set your heat gun for this? I am thinking about fixing mine.
I am new in your channel and your new subscriber love your console fixing videos!!!
awesome video. you rarely get to see BGA rework unless you work in that environment. I create BGA profiles for the big BGA components, but serviced many different things mostly debuging military grade laptops from a production line.
That's a QFN not BGA
Good fix. Thanks from Orlando Florida
Microbyte VAX11/780 we from the same place
I dont see in your sponsored parts list the retimer chip itself. Do you know where I can get one? Do you have a part number
Very nice video. Helped me a lot. Can I ask one thing tho, is fixing it like it will permanently fix this?
Great video. Very informative. My xbox one X doesnt have this exact issue. Mine has started screen flickering which I can only fix by restarting the console. Have you heard/seen this issue before?
Fantastic detailed video, what kind of glue did you use to loosen the timing chip and also put back? I am assuming that was a hot gun/hair dryer used with the soldering flux. Also how long did you have to keep the hir dryer on it to loosen the chip? I have taken the console apart, just like you explained in your video will wait to figure out the soldering flux part from your end. TIA
Did you ever get your answers above? I'm having this issue now and can't find anyone to repair... going to attempt myself and need to acquire the glue, heat gun, etc
I think it is rosin paste. I'm going to look up more ic general replacements using rosin
It’s Elmer’s glue, that way you can taste it after.
Hi, I ´ve got the same problem...which chip do you replace? I mean is it the same one or a new chip? And where have you got it??? I can not see your link for your shop...
My urge to solder is fixed watching these vids. Thanks TronicsFix
Great video! I am actually trying to diagnose the same issues on my buddies' one X. Quick question, what is the clear solution you put on before and after replacing the "retimer" chip, I didn't see a link, was it flux?
Nice Fix Steve :-)
Thanks Vince!
@@Tronicsfix when I launch games on my Xbox one then black screen shows up but home screen is displayed is there any fix please help ???
Did one of these a few weeks ago, ridiculous amount of screws! Only had to do the hdmi port though. Nice job on the chip replacement!
Thanks! This chip replacement is much faster than the port.
@@Tronicsfix where did you get the chip?
China
@@Tronicsfix What temp and airflow are you using? also what size nozzle? Im using the Quick 861DW (bought it from Rossman) with a Quick NK2084 8.4mm bent angled nozzle and tons of amtech flux but I cant get the damn thing to come off even with full heat (500c) and air flow all the way up
Just got mine Xbox one x back today(8/5/19) took about a week with 3 day repair and next day shipping. Sent Monday shipped back Friday got on Monday. It’s legit fixed. I’m about to try some gaming and see how everything holds. Thank you tronics. 👍🏽
how is it after one year?
@@gogadev still working. Last used 1/2021 as a Blu-ray player.
Hi man, how are you, I follow all your videos and I love them, thanks for sharing your experience. I would like to ask you a question, if there is the possibility that you would share an information or make a video of the components that surround the tdp158 since I bought an xbox one x with the same problem but it is seen that they used a lot of air and flew the resistors and capacitors that surround. the missing components are c17, c18, c20, c50, c43, c44, c45, c56. It would be very helpful if you shared it.
I apologize for my English. I am from Argentina. thank you. I hope you can help me.
What temp on the soldering iron did you use? Thanks
You dont have the chips you replace / CPU listed on your sale shop. Or where did you buy them?
Awesome video as always. Get yourself a 360 x clamp removal tool. It will make removing the x clamp and putting it back like smooth butter.
Hey quick question, the hard drive you used to test it, was that a brand new, blank drive or was it formatted a certain way
Hey dude. Great videos. Enjoy watching. I personally have this issue. 2TB SSD seemingly 'died' or there was simply no HDMI output. Changhed back to known working original 1TB Seagate HDD and still no output. Scary thing? The console has been used a handful of times since purchase. I won't have the skills to fix based on the miniature nature of the chip on the motherboard. Did you buy a replacement chip or source from another console?
Did you end up finding the chip on eBay? They go for $10 TDP 158 replacement for Xbox one X
I’ve got exactly the same problem! Rip I need to fix it but don’t have those tiny tools or the HDMI chip where did you get that? If I can’t fix it might just sell it “as is” with a big disclaimer that it doesn’t work on Mecari
TheMarioMen1 have you fixed it?
Love your videos. Can i ask what is the substance that you always put on the chips when you are replacing them? You dont seem to need to re-solder everything but just use this paste substance?
Flux
I love this channel; repairing electronics like peace of cake
It’s the red ring of death all over again
Microsoft sucks f*** them I won’t buy anymore of their inferior products. PlayStation for me from now on
Fantastic video, also the filters at 6:01 are probably ESD protection diodes, they're designed to take the brunt of electrical shocks/static, but can get fried if you have a lightning strike. Great stuff
Andrew Kowalczyk I was recently in a bad storm, I think my Xbox got fried because I’m having the black screen as well and it’ll flicker in and out
Was that flux you were using before taking off the chip? I plan on doing this to my xbox but thats the only part I wasn't sure about is what you were using there.
Thanks tronics for sharing the tips and tricks to repair the display issue. My xbox has a similar problem and when i boot it with the power button and eject button it does show up display at the 640x480 resolution and when i try changing to higher resolution, the display is blank. can you advise what could be the problem
I have the exact same problem. Did you ever find a solution?
Another awesome fix on video as always
Hey thanks!
Great video but I wonder if that part is even available to buy just itself off the market. The hdmi out on the 1X seems to have a high enough failure rate that it’s a semi common issue. Great work as usual
Wait crunch halo 4??
What kind of magnification/microscope tool do you use when making these repairs
Yesss another video from my favorite technologist!!
Hey thanks!
@TronicsFix The drive that "works" which you use to test the Xbox, is it from another Xbox? Or an empty drive I just bought will do the trick?
Can you give me a link so I can buy that part please? And any special tools needed. I need to try and do this
Hey, mine doesn't show anything in the screen, but the tv actually recognizes it when I turn it on, it says that there is a signal but nothing happens
And I changed the hard drive and still nothing
Same any look repairing ?
Had the same thing happen to my xbox wish I was skilled enough to do this
So to test if it’s the HD first, I can use any 2.5 I have laying around? Doesn’t need to be Xbox formatted first or anything like that?
Are you using thermal paste and a heat gun to remove the timer chip?
Am I right in saying he just used liquid flux and a heat gun to remove and replace the timer chip? So no actual soldering is required? Just keep the heat on the leftover solder and the flux will hold it in place until the new chip is placed on the board?
Thats exactly what I’m thinking!
I had a similar issue, except if I moved the HDMI port to a different one on my Roku TV, it would detect it was an Xbox and rename the HDMI port Xbox, but stayed no signal. Ended up being the HDMI cord, swapped it out and it was fine. Tried using the HDMI cord on my PS5 and had the same issue(except Roku couldn't auto detect it was PlayStation)
I have two systems that will start and have audio but no display. Would that be a similar issue?
I was wondering what Flux you would recommend for this?
What kind of solution are you using on the re-timing chip to get it loose and reattach and is it heat your applying to it both to remove and reapply
Yeah I was really hoping he’d tell us
It's called flux.
@@ivelsoup Indeed, but i think they want to know the brand. lol... it's probably SRA Fast Chip or Quick Chip, there are a few other brands... but this is what you're looking for not just a generic flux.
Some fixes from an old Gameboy advance would be nice. I have one and there are no tutorials available, on how to fix them.
Have you checked The Retro Future videos? He's got a lot on the older handhelds. I may do some at some point.
hi what tool are you using to heat up the TDP chip and what temp does it require?
Hi i have a question. My xbox some times when i turn it on works perfect but some times it start up but the screen has like blue pixels around the screen with no audio i turn it off and on again and some times went up good. What can it be?
Where do you get the chips like the retimer chip? Do you get them from broken consoles?
Sometimes. If I can buy them from my supplier in China then I do. If not then I get them from spare parts boards.
@@Tronicsfix Thanks for the reply. Would you mind naming the supplier? I understand if you don't want to. I own a LAN center and MANY consoles. It would be nice to be able to fix them fast using your videos. Thanks for all the effort you put in, can't wait to see more.
You can buy them off digikey. 🙄
@@PenceFamilyGaming mouser has them too
Could i pay you to fix mines I have the same issue, I’ve already had a shop look at it and they can’t fix it.
Same
What is the clear flux that you are using when desoldering the chip?
Quick questions as I have this issue. Couldn't find this anywhere. Would I be able to plug in a hard drive that has windows on it? This would be to check if the hardrive in the xbox is faulty?
Just a quick question, why don't you clean off the old solder and apply some new stuff before you replace the chip?
Because it's no necessary...it just takes longer.
Ok doke was just wondering :)
What kind of flux would you recommend for this application?
I use this flux for everything: amzn.to/2LPlqiF
I’m looking for that thermal pad you replaced. You don’t have one on your website. Where do I find it so I can fix mine. Thank you
what is the name of the liquid you use for taking out the chip
flux
@@kylecutler5317 Thank you.
I would really like to do this project myself. I contacted Microsoft and they're saying itll take a month or two to fix and minimum $250.
I would rather learn my self.
What is the liquid or gel, that you placed on the microchip? Is that to remove the seal and do place a different gel to create a new seal when you replace the chip? That was basically the only part I didn't understand. And it seems pretty important.
It's called flux, it's to clean metal parts so that the solder (the tin looking stuff) can bond to the metal.
Hey tronicsfix I have an x box one x and I have an issue with the black screen as well. Is there any way I can send you the console to look at and hopefully fix?
longtime viewer and enjoy watching your repair videos. I have a gears of war 5 Xbox one x that is suffering from this issue. is there a way I can send it in for repair? what's the best way to get in touch with you? id like to get it repaired for my son to use. thanks :)
What temperature do you use?
Its a visual cue. No1 holds up a temp probe while soldering.
how to repair black screen of death for 'repair men' cause i sure as hell can't do this. I just ran into this problem and i think i'm gonna have to just buy a new one unless theirs an easier way.
Paper Cut2U Gaming same just got this problem today as well
LILKROOKZ me too I’ve not even had my Xbox for a year
which product do u use for deatch and re-attach chips on the mobo with the air flow?
Hi, I wanted to ask - I removed the Retimer IC with my hot air gun, but I accidentaly blew away one resistor (R8B12) and as it is a 0402 teeny tiny resistor, I have no way of finding it now. Do you think it would still work if I bridged the connection? Getting 0402 resistors under 100 pieces per order is difficult and I do not know the ohm value of that resistor :/
I have an Xbox one x with no signal. I can hear audio via my headphones only . Would this be something you repair? Also, where are you based?
Thanks
Ok so ima help you out five months later
You need to turn off your xbox and hold the power and eject button until you hear it come on then you should see your low resolution xbox on your low resolution screen. Lmk if this helped you
how do i get my hands on one of these timing chips?
Great video, whats the liquid you put on the chip to reattach it?
It's called Solder Flux
can you swap the ports? I see you can. but arent the pins getting damaged when you solder the pins?
How did you get that chip off the board so easy? I have tried to get it off with the hot air gun but it would not budge at all. Any tips thanks
It needs lots of heat
800F-1000F
A way better way of knowing if it’s an HDMI issue is to use the Windows 10 Xbox app and turn on streaming from the Xbox to the Pc. If it works then your HDMI port is not working. Personal experience.
Hey I tried this but it didn't work, maybe cuz the xbox doesn't have my account in it (second hand buy for repair) but it does show on my network. (Xbox app won't recognize it tho) any advice you may have?
TronicsFix, I've watched some of your vids and subscribed to you.. I have a rework station but its a 909d+ I have used the heat the chip with 440c my air states its less than or equal to 24l/min. do i not have a rework station that can handle taking HDMI switch chip off a x box 1x? any help would be appreciated. Thank you.. I guess you called it a re timer chip. also i am using liquid flux that states its a no clean flux. but once its heated up it almost turns solid. so I did clean with some ipa...
Could it be, that this retimer chip often goes faulty? I think I saw some more of your fixes with that fault. Maybe a weak spot like the HDMI Ports on the PS4?
Damn, I just got this issue today. I used the Xbox yesterday just fine, and I usually dust and keep my stuff clean, so I don't have any idea of how this happened. Unfortunately, mine is outside warranty, and they're asking $250 to fix it, or replace it with a refurb. Instant hell no to that, glad I found your video, cause I might as well try fixing it myself now. My console turns on and I'm able to stream it to PC and boot up what ever I want to use as usual. With that said, I'm guessing it's HDMI and have a lot of work ahead of me.
Well answer the guy???...He has been waiting for over a damn year for your answer! Stop playing with his emotions like that fella!
@@investing-titties Yeah he should answer him he's been waiting over two years now
Lol
My son got his hdmi repair and still no video do you know what cause of it
Hard drive
Hi!
I was playing my Xbox One X at work (12 hour shifts as a boom gate operator both day/night) and its my sanity keeper lol.
Lost all display through the TV, console boots fine and by using a HDMI to VGA adapter with a 3.5mm audio jack I can actually get picture at 576p or 720p but not 1080p to my PC monitor.
A quick google search found you!
Would a faulty TDP158 Retimer IC be my issue?
Of course I’m just guessing it could be something else, just strange the HDMI to VGA cable works up to 720p but a normal HDMI cable doesn’t give me anything...
What you use for remove the retimer ship and after replace? Looks like glue?
Yeah man. I have an X myself, and I'm having the exact same issue. I'm having extreme problems with the HDMI coming through. It's acting really weird man. I don't have the tools to do what you do, and it's gonna suck not being able to play Battlefield 5🙄 Appreciate this video man, it's really gonna help the technologists out there, and it's gonna help fix most issues. The weird thing about this, it literally happened within a second. I realized that whatever HDMI cable I plugged in, it never worked. Take that as advice, all of you out there who are having this issue, your cord is not the issue. Your Xbox is. I recommend attempting to find other solutions, and if there are none, please reach out to Xbox. Good luck to all of you out there with this issue, it's very difficult.
Koamine how dare you buy battlefield 5 lol
Koamine bro I’m having the same problem, I was just wondering if you had to take yours into repair for it to work cuz I don’t think i can even do that right now cuz of corona. Man I’m straight up going insane without an xbox during isolation ffs.
Craig MacKenzie I did, send yours to Xbox Headquarters for work to be done. They fixed mine through this process!
Koamine Dude that’s awesome I will have to do that because my Xbox still doesn’t work right now and this issue is almost exactly what is happening in the video.
Koamine Oh and all hail lord tachanka btw
How I'm suppose to do that I have no skill at fixing stuff and I have no replacement items
Thats a "you" problem. Sucks to be you.
you just saw a step by step video on how to do it. go slow, and give it a try. your Xbox likely doesn’t work anyway (like mine, currently), so why not try to learn and/or fail? you can do it.
@@pball4lyf good way to look at things +
what is that gel you put on the chip, and does it desolder the chip or something? or did you desolder all of them of camera?
So do we have to go buy new ones to replace the damaged piece ?
Damn that a lot of screws lol
Console makers LOVE their screws. Wait till you see the Wii U, it's so small yet has about as many screws as this. There's one like Evey inch of the perimeter of the board it's ridiculous lol
If I buy the part well u fix mine to if not that's Kool what would u charge
What type of screwdriver bit did you use to unscrew the first two screws on the back of the XBox? Mine look like hex screws, but none of my hex bits are fitting. One is a little filled with dust, too, so it's hard to see visually what type of screw it is. Thanks!
Was that paste you used resin flux? & what temperature would you recommend for the heat gun when removing and re-applying the chip?
Also, should I be applying thermal paste for the circuitry? My guess would be no but I'd like to be certain. Thank you for your tutorial and I'll appreciate getting an answer on my questions
Can you do us a favor of showing ps4 APU reflow and reballing repairs
That's quite a lengthy process and even after reballing i heard it isn't always a guarantee fix
I actually don't do reballs. What @Francisco said...it takes a long time and doesn't always even work.
Thanks, so can you do us a favor of showing ps4 console members how good it is to use the Fan Speed Accelerator also known as Playstation-4-Fan-Mod-Adjustable-Speed-Accelerator-Controller from ebay in way to keep the APU working under suitable temperature than the ps4 itself could do as well form over heating
where can you buy the chip you replaced?
Amazon
Mouser or digikey or Google the correct ic part number for your model