Poor oil control on an L98 is the biggest issue with a stock C4 at the track. Long sweepers and hard braking slosh the oil away from the pick-up. The wear is increased on a huge scale, especially if you heal toe to rev match. Get a road course oil pan in the least. I ran 11 events, about 500 laps on a tired 1986 Z51 before the L98 blew at Pitt. Palmer looks like a real fun track, thanks for the vid. Good to see a fellow C4 out there.
Thanks for checking out the video man, I’ve heard that from another enthusiast as well I think maybe I’ll start looking into that. I’ve ran like 4 track days so far and I drive it pretty hard I’d definitely like it to last awhile, for the time being just running 530 synthetic slightly over filled.
I’ve monitored the oil pressure and never dropped so far while turning or braking. Maybe the tires aren’t so grippy. But the oil leaked through the dipstick. The blow by is low (the gauge doesn’t measure any pressure) so I assume it’s because of oil reaching up while turning to the left.
@@rotorblade9508 funny you say that because I noticed a very small leak around the base of the dipstick too but it could also be the fact it an old engine that sat awhile and now it’s being pushed hard
It is a slow progression of wear that brings the death of an engine from no oil control. Probably won't see it coming till the power drops. This video is a great explanation of it, I use one on my LS with a road pan-----> ua-cam.com/video/vyaGoj60A6s/v-deo.html
@@rotorblade9508You can't see the issue by looking at the oil pressure. By the time you see low pressure your engine is already done. The only way to make sure you have uninterrupted oil flow all the time is to a proper oil pan.
@@Thingswithwheels1 I think you will love it when you do get to drive it, very nice flowing track. Like rock is fun too I haven’t driven my C4 on it yet though, what group do you run with?
@@morecars324 I am in the same boat, that game was big for me. 93' LT1 - Currently doing cam/long tubes on it while winter is here. Coilovers on the front, going to show the rear suspension some love too. I was going to ask, what stereo did you put in yours? Are you running new speakers/ if so did you have to get a special wiring harness?
That is difference between a American sportscar, and say a german or italian one, you can drive it to race track, race the hell out of it (and win) and then drive it right back home and next day morning to work. No bmw, ferrari or porsche could ever do that for you, but a Corvette can!
I wasn't aware they made sports cars that can't be used as you describe. The German and Italian cars you mention we use like that every day all over Europe. Of course the Corvette has to be able to do the same. I've never taken any of my cars to the track without driving it there and back again. Usually not even do any extra servicing.
Most especially late model and contemporary vehicles from ferrari and porsche certainly won‘t take and survive a serious beating session on track and then be able to be driven back home. Actually they are quite notorious for being heavy on constant issues and maintenance requirements, they are not exactly reliable. If you know cars, then you should know that. @@varmastiko2908
Thanks! Doesn’t need much , change all the fluids and run synthetic power steering fluid, high temp synthetic brake fluid ( I use motul rb600) and some high performance brake pads. Like in the video I’d recommend 1.5 degrees of camber
@@garypiont6114 o I’m sorry about that mis understood. The car on track feels great, very planted and the steering input feels decently precise for its age. You have to drive the car hard before correcting
@@garypiont6114 have a look into the history of the corvette challenge from the late 80s and 90s and that answers your question better than we can. thumbs up
@@morecars324 cool. What do you think about those devices that measures your 0-60 times and quarter mile times? I think there is a device like that too.
Very cool ! I have a 85 Z51 car. Will the alignment you show work well for it even though it has a stiff suspension and big sway bars ? (It also has C5 wheels on it . ) I want to get the alignment close because I can't afford to do it over and over. Thanks !
Thanks for watching! Yes I think the 1.5 camber is a perfect happy medium for street and track driving, I was concerned about inner tire wear but the rate of the tires wearing is faster anyways because of track driving so it doesn’t really matter anyways. If it was a full track car I’d recommend even more camber, mine still pushes a bit on long sweepers but it’s a lot better than oem settings
@@morecars324 I agree that's what it's aimed at (the track), I know the 84 was extremely stiff and they loosened it up but I don't know if they anymore after 85 or not. From what I read the 85 Z51 can pull 1 G on turns I still have yet to take it to a track to find the breaking point.
fantastic footage! thank you for sharing. i have some c4zr1 footage uploaded. you are running a true z51 without the fx3? tpi cars are so underrated! wherever this track is, i want to go there for a track day.
Damn that must be a blast to drive man with all that extra power! I’ll check out your footage.. yes mine is a true Z51 non fx3 I got very lucky I was looking for a Z51 but the seller wasn’t sure, drove from RI to New York to get it and found out when I got there! The l98 z51 is great for the tracks here in the northeast ( this is Palmer Motorsports park) in Palmer Massachusetts. It has just enough power, I usually modify everything but I’m happy with it stock to be honest!
@@morecars324 congrats on the car. a rare duck. the "civillian' version of the corvette challenge cars pretty much. i also have an 89 z51 non fx3 that i am prepping for the track. it will be fun to compare the 89 to the zr-1 on track. do you have more track days this year?
@@vikingtrad3r thanks man! Yeah I’ve read about that how they set up the 90 z51 from the challenge cars, let me tell you it shows! Could use a bit more top end power but it’s really not bad. Funny you say that I had a track day today, I’m bummed I didn’t record it I had some really good laps keeping pace with an Alfa Romeo Quattro 500hp twin turbo, and yes he was driving it!
regardless of what he meant, you should still attend. you can get an instructor who has more experience than you and you would not believe the level up you will experience. just keep doing those types of events and you get better and better and more capable. @@morecars324
Poor oil control on an L98 is the biggest issue with a stock C4 at the track. Long sweepers and hard braking slosh the oil away from the pick-up. The wear is increased on a huge scale, especially if you heal toe to rev match. Get a road course oil pan in the least. I ran 11 events, about 500 laps on a tired 1986 Z51 before the L98 blew at Pitt. Palmer looks like a real fun track, thanks for the vid. Good to see a fellow C4 out there.
Thanks for checking out the video man, I’ve heard that from another enthusiast as well I think maybe I’ll start looking into that. I’ve ran like 4 track days so far and I drive it pretty hard I’d definitely like it to last awhile, for the time being just running 530 synthetic slightly over filled.
I’ve monitored the oil pressure and never dropped so far while turning or braking. Maybe the tires aren’t so grippy. But the oil leaked through the dipstick. The blow by is low (the gauge doesn’t measure any pressure) so I assume it’s because of oil reaching up while turning to the left.
@@rotorblade9508 funny you say that because I noticed a very small leak around the base of the dipstick too but it could also be the fact it an old engine that sat awhile and now it’s being pushed hard
It is a slow progression of wear that brings the death of an engine from no oil control. Probably won't see it coming till the power drops. This video is a great explanation of it, I use one on my LS with a road pan-----> ua-cam.com/video/vyaGoj60A6s/v-deo.html
@@rotorblade9508You can't see the issue by looking at the oil pressure. By the time you see low pressure your engine is already done. The only way to make sure you have uninterrupted oil flow all the time is to a proper oil pan.
I've been wanting to visit Palmer. I have an 89 auto C4. I'm jealous of your clean gauge cluster! Hoping to get to Lime Rock with mine this year.
@@Thingswithwheels1 I think you will love it when you do get to drive it, very nice flowing track. Like rock is fun too I haven’t driven my C4 on it yet though, what group do you run with?
@morecars324 ill run novice, have attended a bunch of races there but haven't run the track and haven't done a track day in a long time.
I saw no abuse, did see a corvette owner enjoying his car for what it was met to do. Enjoy!
Thanks! That’s right
Cool Video. Good drive...👍
Love the car! Glad you race it! I’m mostly Auto X mine at the moment!
He's Driving it !!! #C4stillrealavent
@5:45 This song is the South City Gran Turismo 2 song, a fellow GT2 fan? Small world, I also have a C4 I track!
Yes!!! Finally someone haha I grew up on ps1/ps2 I think that’s mostly what started my love for cars. Hell yeah man l98 car?
@@morecars324 I am in the same boat, that game was big for me. 93' LT1 - Currently doing cam/long tubes on it while winter is here. Coilovers on the front, going to show the rear suspension some love too. I was going to ask, what stereo did you put in yours? Are you running new speakers/ if so did you have to get a special wiring harness?
Nice run man the tires seem to be holding well,
Thanks! , yes for the price of them I’m impressed. Eventually may invest in a rim/tire setup just for the track
That is difference between a American sportscar, and say a german or italian one, you can drive it to race track, race the hell out of it (and win) and then drive it right back home and next day morning to work.
No bmw, ferrari or porsche could ever do that for you, but a Corvette can!
I wasn't aware they made sports cars that can't be used as you describe. The German and Italian cars you mention we use like that every day all over Europe. Of course the Corvette has to be able to do the same. I've never taken any of my cars to the track without driving it there and back again. Usually not even do any extra servicing.
Most especially late model and contemporary vehicles from ferrari and porsche certainly won‘t take and survive a serious beating session on track and then be able to be driven back home. Actually they are quite notorious for being heavy on constant issues and maintenance requirements, they are not exactly reliable. If you know cars, then you should know that. @@varmastiko2908
Great vid! Question, what does a c4 want to track? Does it need alot of correction, etc
Thanks! Doesn’t need much , change all the fluids and run synthetic power steering fluid, high temp synthetic brake fluid ( I use motul rb600) and some high performance brake pads. Like in the video I’d recommend 1.5 degrees of camber
@@morecars324 im asking about the c4 natural track ability not oil
@@garypiont6114 o I’m sorry about that mis understood. The car on track feels great, very planted and the steering input feels decently precise for its age. You have to drive the car hard before correcting
@@garypiont6114 have a look into the history of the corvette challenge from the late 80s and 90s and that answers your question better than we can. thumbs up
@@vikingtrad3r thankyou
The camera angle is perfect. Is it a GoPro attached to your helmet?
It’s is! Have a stick on mount on the right side of the helmet
whats that device on the windshield?
@@ScreamingEagleFTW just an iPhone with a windshield mount, I use track addict App to time my laps
@@morecars324 cool. What do you think about those devices that measures your 0-60 times and quarter mile times? I think there is a device like that too.
Very cool ! I have a 85 Z51 car. Will the alignment you show work well for it even though it has a stiff suspension and big sway bars ? (It also has C5 wheels on it . ) I want to get the alignment close because I can't afford to do it over and over. Thanks !
Thanks for watching! Yes I think the 1.5 camber is a perfect happy medium for street and track driving, I was concerned about inner tire wear but the rate of the tires wearing is faster anyways because of track driving so it doesn’t really matter anyways. If it was a full track car I’d recommend even more camber, mine still pushes a bit on long sweepers but it’s a lot better than oem settings
I too have an 85 Z51, just got new Bilstein shocks. It didn't do much for the ride but it totally changed the handling.
@@ranbymonkeys2384 I’m not 100% positive but I think your z51 may be even stiffer than my 1990. I find the ride to be perfect for street/track driving
@@morecars324 I agree that's what it's aimed at (the track), I know the 84 was extremely stiff and they loosened it up but I don't know if they anymore after 85 or not. From what I read the 85 Z51 can pull 1 G on turns I still have yet to take it to a track to find the breaking point.
fantastic footage! thank you for sharing. i have some c4zr1 footage uploaded. you are running a true z51 without the fx3? tpi cars are so underrated! wherever this track is, i want to go there for a track day.
Damn that must be a blast to drive man with all that extra power! I’ll check out your footage.. yes mine is a true Z51 non fx3 I got very lucky I was looking for a Z51 but the seller wasn’t sure, drove from RI to New York to get it and found out when I got there! The l98 z51 is great for the tracks here in the northeast ( this is Palmer Motorsports park) in Palmer Massachusetts. It has just enough power, I usually modify everything but I’m happy with it stock to be honest!
@@morecars324 congrats on the car. a rare duck. the "civillian' version of the corvette challenge cars pretty much. i also have an 89 z51 non fx3 that i am prepping for the track. it will be fun to compare the 89 to the zr-1 on track. do you have more track days this year?
@@vikingtrad3r thanks man! Yeah I’ve read about that how they set up the 90 z51 from the challenge cars, let me tell you it shows! Could use a bit more top end power but it’s really not bad. Funny you say that I had a track day today, I’m bummed I didn’t record it I had some really good laps keeping pace with an Alfa Romeo Quattro 500hp twin turbo, and yes he was driving it!
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You can hear the difference in the alignment in the tire scrub.
big difference for sure, car still always has a slight plow though ive noticed
Palmer has an HPDE school. You should probably attend. 🫣
My driving that bad?
regardless of what he meant, you should still attend. you can get an instructor who has more experience than you and you would not believe the level up you will experience. just keep doing those types of events and you get better and better and more capable. @@morecars324