Why Would Anyone USE PRO TOOLS?!
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@@TrapBoiFuse561 yea it’s pricey but for the price you’re getting the worst featured DAW. I don’t mind paying, but I want to pay for the features, not just because everyone else uses it.
Pro Tools is the "industry standard" because of the corporate capture of the music education industry since 1997. Pro Tools systems were "donated" to schools so that it was the only DAW taught in schools. Just like Microsoft has done.
Exactly.👍 That, plus the fact that the merging/buyover with Avid suddenly made it brand linked and a "must" (for NO technical reason whatsoever) for film & TV studios. Plus their absurd tying the software to specific and very expensive hardware through the years makes it very, very hard for professionals & studios especially in America who have invested thousands in Avid/Digidesign stuff and are chained to their thievish auto-update subscription payments to now say "Ah, well, yeah, let's let all of that go now."
Psychlogy, ego, and geography. Oh, and marketing.
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Yeah this is just not true. As someone who worked for Leo’s Pro Audio/Spitzers Music in the 90’s, California Recording Institute and co founded NorCal DJMPA in the early 2000’s Protools was never given away to schools. It was taught because it was adopted by studios from day 1. Not sure where you got that info from but yeah it’s totally incorrect,
@@PrantoKoX again this isn’t true. Pro Tools was used by audio post production studios because it could slave to sony 9pin. A very technical reason that no other daw could do.
@@RussArteaga Yes - but IIRC it was the Digidesign hardware that synced & slaved to the 9 pin Sony ACE protocol interfaces, not a merit of the software itself. In EU we did it with in other ways, not just in video editing, but in mastering (to U-Matic tapes & machines), too.
@@RussArteaga Yeah, it was actually Apple who "donated" the gear to the education industry on which Pro Tools was developed for. Funny thing is the popularity of both the Mac and Pro Tools kind of comes from the fact that the Mac was so underpowered that it needed to be hitched to powerful Pro Tools DSP hardware which could do all the heavy lifting. It's funny because people would buy a Mac and Pro Tools thinking it would give them some advantage when they were relying upon native processing.
I used to work on Pro Tools for many years and I wholly agree about the editing. I use Reaper now for all of my professional projects and I even mapped all of the editing macros to be the same as Pro Tools. I also love how I can have more than one session open at a time in Reaper, so handy for instances where I want to just copy SFX or a music cue from another session. I hated how Pro Tools was so rigid with having to import audio.
exactly!!
Literally. And editing on reaper is WAY easier and simpler than slow tools. Especially wit mouse modifiers , custom key commands and playlisting is much better on reaper
@@MelliMontana I doubt it.
@@Malc180s the typical fanboy response lol.. keep letting avid pump you in the ase lol
How do you like Reaper compared to Logic?
I switched from Pro Tools (after 20 years) to Studio One two years ago after trialling everything. I have Presonus Sphere which means for about £4 a week you get Studio One Pro, Fat Channel, all the software including Notation, all the instruments, sounds & sample packs, a superb built-in Console emulation and of course free updates. It has to be one of the biggest no-brainers in music production. 😎
I wish everyone tried studio one out... And then they will see the light!!!
Man...Studio One....is my Set Final Mixing, Mastering and Post Mastering DAW....Sudio One...is it!!
I come from S1, now I'm learning PT what a overcomplicated DAW. What I do in 1 clic in S1 need sweat and labor in PT
S1 has the most ridiculously messy, unorganised GUI out. It should be called "tiny boxes with text everywhere" one.
@@teddym2808 Idk man, I've been using it for years, coming from Pro Tools and many other DAWs. Seems as if you haven't actually put any time into it, new software usually requires you to do that to figure out how to use it. S1 is one of the most straightforward DAWs I've ever used.
I'm a full time songwriter/producer working mainly in the Latin tropical/Reggaeton scenes, and also some Latin pop and rock. I'm also starting to work on music for film and documentaries.
It is SIMPLY IMPOSSIBLE to work without Pro Tools on any of those scenes. Film audio mixers down here will simply not accept stems: they demand a PT session. Most tropical producers don't know there are other DAWs out there. I work remotely with a lot of American clients and you'd be surprised how many commercial recording facilities in the US are unable to export their PT sessions as stems, or import stems into PT.
So I'm not a fan of Pro Tools, I do all my songwriting and producing/programming on Logic Pro X, but... I pay my monthly subscription because I need to work with other people. PT may be unnecessarily clunky and crashy but it's a fact of life.
Wait until you try Nuendo. I use both PT an Nuendo. I can tell you Nuendo blows PT outta the window with so many features. That is not to say am uninstalling PT. I use it everyday just like I use Nuendo. They have their strengths for anything I wanna do
I also work in Film music and Mixing.
I use only reaper. I Founded my own Sound For Film Company and we have a little inside joke about PT being banned from all of our facilities.
if they ask for a PT session we just Save a copy, Print in place all of the items
and then convert it to a Ptx file using Vordio. Voila!
easy as cake, and no one even dares to complain.
Using PT just because everyone else is doing it is just lame.
why the F would I use an overbloated, overpriced, slow, underdeveloped, nasty, crashy, POS, that always tends to slow me down, or let mi hanging, while taxing me with the burden of paying an exagerated amount of money for less tools and capabilities
when I can use one of the MANY alternatives that are not only cheaper, but more stable, flexible, and overall more capable in any way shape or form
(today all daws can do the same integration with hardware just the same or even better)
Standards are meant to be changed when new better alternatives arrive!
so why live in the stone age, when we can rise the standard to something good instead of something shitty?
Huge fan of your channel! I'd like to see a "Why Pro Tools (the leading DAW in modern recording studios) is good for hardware but still sucks at anything else! Like 20 years ago" video...Cause I really can't explain all the bad stuff about AVID (as a company) and the fact that other DAWs that cost a freaking fraction of PT's price, are delivering crazy updates, so fast that PT would never catch them up even in 20 years. Those features really speed up our workflow a lot (either production, MIDI, recording, mixing, or whatever else), I'm not talking about silly stuff. I think that at this point, it's more convenient switching DAW (from commercial studio to our personal studio) than keeping Pro Tools for compatibility with commercial studios. Mixing in something like Studio One is so faster and easier that you will still save time, also if you have to bounce the multitrack from PT and import it into Studio One. I know you're a smart guy, just try other DAWs out if you haven't done it yet. I used PT like you for 10 years before switching to Studio One, you're right the editing might be a bit better in PT but everything else is on a totally different level.
Well I don’t disagree with what you are saying, when I’m flying 10+ sessions a week to different studios, the cross compatibility is extremely important to my timelines. Definitely not sticking up for avid‘s shortcomings.
@@ColtCapperrune Understand. You're right then, but I still think that commercial studios should keep up and AVID is going down a BLACK rabbit hole.
@@ColtCapperrune Can't believe all 10 have the same plugin sets, which also gives problems
Thanks for writing that, but he cant hear you. He is too busy actually working.
@@JakeyWakey ?
I moved from Pro Tools to Reaper as my main DAW a few months ago. It's been a fun ride since then.
I just realized Reaper is like that humble, low-profile guy who makes 6 figures monthly.
Lies lol
its hard to swallow but the future is reaper. the market will show you that ableton is the number one daw in use by sales,making it the smart choice due to its helpful vast user base. therefore its undemocratic to not put ableton in every studio, ableton 11 is not reliable though, 10 is much more stable @@timfuredi1000
In Short, the pro tools meta is going to suffer because nobody of note fuckin uses it anymore
I learnt how to mix on Pro Tools. Went through hell trying to find a DAW to replicate the workflow since I couldn't afford to buy my own license. I eventually landed on Cubase. Cubase has a lot of midi features which softened the blow of me missing Pro Tools.
I have high hopes for Luna, but they need to get a couple more things ironed out before it’s a super viable option
@@ColtCapperrune I've been on Logic for 7 years and I love it but.... I think I'm heading to Luna. I've got the basics down but I just decided yesterday to dive in. I'm not anywhere near your level and I don't have professional deadlines like you so I don't think there will be any issues for me. I really love Logic and there is no pressing issues making me switch but Luna's workflow and the meshing of the low latency tracking with UA's Console make it very attractive to me.
@@ColtCapperrune but I like what they're doing. Rather roll out improvements gradually than to promise the world and fail to deliver. For a new daw, Luna has impressed me. I'm yet to try it though
@@allpdmusic as far as logic goes, for me it is unusuable until further notice.
Logic Pro has a FATAL BUG THAT DESTROYS YOUR AUDIO FILES!!!!
Anyone wondering can search „one or more audio files changed in length“
You can see countless forum posts, blog posts etc. about it.
The issue exists since a few years…
I swore to that DAW. Apple did a great job keeping it low and worse, providing no fix
Pro Tools artist $10.00 a month.
Hi Colt if those big studios install Logic, Reaper, Studio One or Cubase on their computers it will be game over for Pro Tools. These studios have invested too much money into the Apple-like Avid ecosystem its hard to let go. Industry standard?? I'll pass. Its Studio One for me.
I agree!
I wouldn't say AVID ecosystem is anything close to Apple's one. Digidesign in the early 2000s might have been comparable to Apple. For the recording studio, AVID is just a garbage company nowadays, that doesn't even know the meaning of the word "innovation".
@@leonardocaminati6432 still the standard!
They will never because they dont wanna waste time porting their files and learning a new daw, as well as spend the time configuring everything
btw, Colt your channel is absolutely on point, refreshing and enjoyable. Keep up your hard work and informative content as it is much appreciated and truly fun to watch and refresh on.
Ok so as an owner of protools for years I switch to studio one. My experience with protools was terrible to say the least. Every other session I had it crash midway. Hardware was way to heavy on my computer. (Mind you I recently updated with my ram so I get that part). I’m around young engineers daily and they all agree protools is absolutely garbage.! Only people that still vouch for it is old heads who don’t know anything else. Im 31 so I guess I’m in that category now lol. Studio one is taking over. It’s simply to use. You can watch tutorials for the specific functions you need but other than that the daw is self explanatory. Great workflow that can be customizable for everyone and anything. I believe it will soon be over for avid especially since they went subscription base (SMH)
Lastly I will say don’t be scared to use new tech. Times are changing. I said the same thing about tic toc and now it’s the biggest platform for music. I highly recommend studio one but to be honest. It’s not about the DAW
you use but how you use it 😁
Haha yeah I never understood why some people are so hell bent on pro tools. I’ve had engineers who I think provided mediocre mixes say that “if you can’t use pro tools, you’re not a professional engineer”, and my logic using ass was just like okayyy ☺️
Anyone that you work with should be happy to bounce their stems or raw tracks to work with them. If the process goes songwriting, production, editing, mixing then mastering, I'm sure either person doesn't mind just bouncing whatever they left the track as. If they want to change something they can just work with the producer to change it.
Sadly big artists, directors and professionals don't even know how to share STEMS or Split tracks which can be eaaily used in any daw. All daws support wav and mp3 stems. These so called professionals need to learn to make stems.
Whenever I work on a client's system, I book a couple of extra hours just to export all of the audio files at the end of the project. It's a little extra work, but I'm not going to force anyone to buy the same DAW just because it would be convenient for me.
It’s not always that easy! Sometimes you don’t want commit to automation etc! There’s a lot of reasons why having people don’t wanna bounce out stems
I had pro tools for 5 years and it was so difficult learning that DAW and making beats in it was even more difficult... not to mention that I payed $700.00 for the program at guitar center and for 5 years I payed $100.00 a year thinking that I was paying for new updates so that my software can stay fancy... the first year I decided that I don't need anymore updates I couldn't even open the software anymore! I contacted avid about the situation and the representative literally mocked me as if someone would pay $700.00 for something and not own it... especially a studio program! when I expressed me displeasure with his ignorance they tried to pacify me with a (one time license) like that was going to make me forget that I just payed $1100.00 on a polished turd that I couldn't even step on because I didn't own it!!! I still have that license and I have yet to activate because I am so discussed with that situation and I wouldn't use that program if it was free! good thing I bought Studio one about the same time and realized that it was much easier to use and you can do everything that you can do in pro tools but easier and I'm tempted to say its better... Matter of fact... I am going to say it...(IT's BETTER!) and you can quote me on that!!! Pro Tools is a rip off even if every big studio has it... And at this point... all the big studios are wasting their money too...
Man u r legit correct. Its lot of money being drained on most feature lacking software- protools.
For compatibility, everyone should use stems or split-up tracks when sharing files. All daws can easily use these stems. But sadly people are reluctant to learn new things.
Damn I got every version of protools for free
I would really love to have that licence if you could help me out please😊
I can definitely understand why big commercial studios stay with ProTools. They’ve already invested thousands into the hardware and it would be an expensive switch. If you’re not one of the big commercial spots though I think it’s a matter of preference and need (as you said) at this point. I was a faithful ProTools user for years. Switched over to Luna during the pandemic and haven’t missed it at all.
Protools is a software. It has nothing to do with the hardware. You can change the DAW instantly.
Avid has hardware systems that are made for the pro tools DAW
@@claudianreyn4529 The big studios are running ProTools HD which requires their hardware.
@Eq Labs Europe NICE!
Hi Ed! I’m considering ditching my $299 yearly Pro Tools subscription for LUNA or Logic. What was the learning curve like and how did you prep your active PT sessions to migrate over to use in LUNA? Thanks!
That's crazy bro, i'd rather use Cakewalk pro audio 9.03 and windows xp. Lol
I want to own Pro Tools badly but the subscription things turn me down...now I'm a happy Studio One user👍🏻
Reaper is the king for editing by far IF you dig into the customization and extensions. You tell IT what to do, not the other way around.
Yeah, I’ve attempted that over the years and I end up not getting anything done. I’m too busy trying to build a better Reaper monster everyday. Tweaking the key commands and scripts beyond recognition in an effort to make the ultimate workflow. I open up Studio One or Pro Tools and instantly make something.
@@terrygray7465 yep, me too. Very powerful but not really conducive to getting things done until you spend a long time...which I don't have....customizing it.
If you ever use Steinberg Cubase Pro, it's REALLY hard to switch to anything else and the editing you talk about is fastest on Cubase IMO. Studio One is the 2nd best thing to me.
I'm stuck at Cakewalk Sonar 8.5 That sucks also, and old as hell but it's realllly hard to work with anything else, especially because I used this thing for many years, my mindset is about that workflow, keystrokes; I automatically try to find a solution in other daw like how it was done in Sonar, and this is a very big issue for me. But. Because I mostly create backing tracks and MIDI based karaoke products, no other daw has the lyrics view I need in my everyday routine.
I totally agree. I started with Cubase when it came with the Atari 1040 ST. I now use Pro 12. Love it but I also have a basic version of Studio One that I really want to learn how to use because it just works with my Presonus Studiolive Series 3 mixer. I don't get the fascination with Pro Tools except for the fact it's been around a long time and was once the go to for pros. Now though I see a lot of pros using Cubase.
@@richardvastag Why not update -- it's free.
.....and there is a reason the top Hollywood score writers are using it , it's simply way faster ,more intuitive and much easyier to manage the Massive projects.
I've been on Cubase since SX 3. I've tried others, but Cubase's workflow always just feels intuitive and I always come back to it. I really like Reason's rack system and synth arrays, mixing was clunky to me. I used to use Cubase to run our live shows, now we use Ableton. I was drawn to Ableton's arrangement features, but it operates so differently from Cubase that I haven't been able to get into the flow. Tried a few others for some specific features, but overall meh. ProTools always just felt like a default option - like people keep using it simply because so many people keep using it. In all my years of talking to other producers, I have yet to hear anyone say ProTools inspires them to create. Hell, even FL Studio seems to have that one covered better.
Is this a throwback to 2008 video? I remember those days... lol
We only OWN pro tools for this reason. But we work in cubase. Workflow is so much better. Even with sound flow + prootools its still just too slow and not fully customizable which is what cubase excels at. Plus we got the big middle finger from Avid with the perpetual licensing fiasco. Pissed us off quite a bit and was the final straw. (As for M1 compatibility, avid programmers are probably busy fighting russia)
Im curious what IS your mix prep, editing, tuning workflow? Thatd make a good vid. 👍
Lol I started out with Pro Tools, but Been working with a Producer that used Nuendo/Cubase I've been using it ever since. My Producer calls it SLOW Tools.
I'm am amateur here so I'm asking a genuine question, isn't the price of the pt licence just going to get taken off taxes every year, making it a non issue?
I used to own both Cubase and Protools. I still have an old version of Protools. However, due to the reasons you mentioned I will stick with Cubase. Steinberg has been around forever, and from my understanding developed VSTs.
Maybe I am nuts, but I used Studio One, switched to Pro Tools for about a month and switched back to Studio One so fast...I run on M1 so maybe it is just the computer I work on, but Pro Tools editing was so much slower for me than Studio One was. Again, maybe it was just the computer, but I think I will be sticking with the good ole PreSonus product for a while
Gotta use what works best for you!
I’d also argue that S1 has better editing features ( workflow) than Pro Tools. I highly doubt he’s been seriously in another daw for a long time. lol. I agree that hdx has a monopoly on hardware dsp integration.
This was so much fun to watch with CC on. Every time you said DAW it thought it said DOG. Great fun. Think I’ll leave it on for all videos.
Kinda nice to hear some positive push back for Pro Tools. I'm not a moron and am aware the faults of avid...the many, many, MANY, faults. But I know it inside and out and it really does get the job done for me, and every artist and studio I work with. All DAW's have their place. But its just nice to hear someone else in that same boat! Thanks Colt.
protools obviously has some good things in it. (I can barely name a few, but they exist)
the problem is that basically, the cons vastly surpass the benefits.
to each their own but, avid needs to grow some cojones or they are going to crash even harder than PT
Great presentation, Colt. These discussions often come with a bit of . . . emotion. My first experience with a DAW was in College, and yes, it was Pro Tools. My Pro Tools class professor was none other than Frank Cook himself. When the time came for me to open my own studio, I went with Pro Tools. Then came the issues - oh boy! I finally reached out to some producer friends, who really made me question my needs. I settled on Apple's Logic Pro X. I'm very, very happy with that decision. Each producer/studio owner has to take an honest evaluation of their needs and expectations. In the end, there really is no "wrong" path. As long as you reach your goal, no one cares how you got there. AND - bottom line: no one ever won, or was snubbed a Grammy depending on a DAW.
I kinda disagree when you say Pro Tools is best when come to Editing, Pro Tools is still has no ARA, Vocal Alignment, Pitch Correction Tools, You can't mute a specific Audio section Without Spliting the Audio, the list it's endless
Protools users only swear by Protools Editing because most of the time they just didn't spend the same amount of time and experience with other DAWs. So they find it "quicker" or "faster" or even "easier" just because they know it and they invest a lot of time learning it... but if they would have done the same thing with another DAW such Logic, Cubase, Studio One, etc... they wouldn't swear that much about Protools. Don't get me wrong, Protools is a decent DAW with lot of PROs and CONs, like every other DAW, it's just not "the best for editing"... that's just some stupid and uneducated statement to make
@@Spidouz But to be fair are you stating this because you have spent an equal amount of time learning how to edit fast on both pro tools and other daws? Or is it a similar case where you have put more time into another daw so its easier for you than using pro tools?
when they're too old / don't have enough time / set in their ways to bother learning a superior DAW and just say it's the industry standard because its all they can use
For very specific types of editing, sure, PT is great. But for classical recording, having source-destination workflows is critical and as far as I know, PT still can’t do that.
Also, let’s acknowledge that session compatibility has as much to do with owning all the standard plug-in bundles as jumping on a big mixing console.
Avid is extremely lucky that Digidesign pro tools was so entrenched when they were the industry leader. I think it’s a complete lack of forward thinking to rest on that taking you forward, especially with those ‘big studios’ becoming less and less common. At some point they will be left w their current core market, post production for video.
2nd main reason they’re still holding market is that there are a lot of people that started on pro tools and just don’t want to or have time to learn a new daw.
Thx for the video!
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Surprised Cubase Pro is not getting much love in the comments. It has the most features and customization by far.
Started on M-Powered 8.5 Gave it Up! When Companies start having Subscriptions ITS TIME to GO...
Yep, we mustn't support software subscriptions. I don't do Adobe Creative Cloud and I'm not doing Roland Cloud. These companies are like teachers handing out vacation assignments - no thought about how many others are doing it. I already limit my TV subscriptions (no point cutting cable only to spend more on subs). If Microsoft go subscription for Windows, I'm switching to Linux!
It doesn't really matter that studios use Pro Tools since 99% of music these days is recorded at home. Who cares what these dinosaurs use? haha.
Also, your point about latency makes no sense. Pro Tools handles this no differently than any other DAW and has so for years. You still need to configure your buffer size, sample rate, bit rate, etc.. and in fact, the buffer sizes of most Pro Tools systems can't run a buffer lower than 256, when I can get my Reaper buffer to 16!
oh boy.... your arguments are quite poor and not relevant anymore. I've worked on Protools for years, decade even, and I tested pretty much every DAW on the market (but Digital Performer, for no particular reason)... and all I can say is that every DAW do pretty much the same thing, just differently, each DAW have their own way to do things, but they can pretty much do it just as well, just as fast, it's just a matters of knowledge and habits. However, in 2022, there's absolutely NO NEED for any particular DAW whatsoever, not even Protools... just use whatever you want, but you don't have to have Protools anymore like it was still the case like 10 years ago... to be honest, these days, if you're working with producers out there, you'd better off by having Logic Pro, Cubase Pro, Studio One, Ableton Live or even FL Studio (if you're doing lot of electronic music)... but Protools? Nobody cares about it anymore... beside some couple of studios that just use an old Protools 10 HD because they didn't upgrade their system. It's getting even worse now that Avid is pushing for subscription only... if you don't know that professionals are moving away from Protools, you didn't hang out much with producers and engineers out there. I don't know much that still want to stay on Protools and the only reason they got an update is to stay compatible with their old projects... but most of them are using something else for every new project.
I use Logic Pro for creating and use ProTools for editing and mixing. As you stated, I find ProTools MIDI limiting and grew up with Digital Performer as my best MIDI editor. However, editing and mixing is ProTools is "ROCK SOLID".
The monopoly of the mediocre DAW like ProTools is ridiculous. Most DAW makers evolve and do serious development in their software. ProTools lags behind soooo many years, it's a dated and user-unfriendly piece of software. I use Cubase 12 and it's no competition. NONE.
I totally agree with you! Pro Tools has the best workflow for recording an editing but maybe not for producing with midi and loops. Personally I primarily use Pro Tools for recording and editing and Logic Pro X for producing. Great video!!
I am a composer for TV and film. Started in the late 90s with Emagic Logic Audio Platinum for Windows (pre apple) and Cubase/Nuendo.
For the past 10 years I compose all my scores in Pro Tools using 100s of tracks of virtual instruments. Fast, easy and gets the job done. Loops, are a piece of cake.
Completely off topic but MY GOD I’m in love with your lighting colour choices! Just gorgeous!
In other news - Logic Pro for me.
The old phrase still stands true - Logic for Musicians, Pro Tools for Engineers. Hehe 😉
Bro, I have two words for you Studio ONE. !!!! bEAST
I used Reason for years and LOVE it. the workflow is lightning fast, the transport controls are so easy to navigate, the the console means you can do 80% of your mixing with no plugins, and the stock plugins are top shelf, much better than what you'd expect for stock ones, and there's even a lot of of really nice instruments. But on the last update, PT stopped recognizing AAF files to import so I was forced to go to PT, kicking and screaming. The first couple of weeks were hellish, but then I started to see its advantages, and I'm digging it now. The transport still sucks major butt, but mixing on it is so nice.
Great video, great points. For me it comes down to cost. Studio One has been a great alternative for me. 🤘😎🤘
Studio One is great and easily blows overpriced glorified reel to reel Protools out of the proverbial water. I have no issues transferring my Studio One wavs/ ogg etc stuff into Protools. I tend to leave any effects off and use whatever stuff is available. So no real issues with Protools, just people waxing lyrical about industry standard crap. Is that because Protools is the best or because it’s been around for so long and too expensive to just drop? Regards ✌️😎
I made the switch from PT to S1 back around January and I couldn't be happier. I used PT for 17 years and I don't miss it at all. There WAS a little learning curve but there are plenty of solid S1 tutorials on YT that got me up and running super quick.
The ONLY reason I have Protools in my room, is because I conform to PT, when needed. When it goes off to mix or edit. I use Cubase Pro, Digital Performer. And sometimes Studio One for incoming sessions. If I get a PT session to mix, add tracks or to edit, I always dump an AAF of the session into Cubase Pro. Then Back again when finished. Cubase is way more user friendly and it sounds better, in my room, than PT.
had a audio buddy who went to Brooklyn sound school. He would make jokes and call it Pro fools
Commercial studios can easily migrate away from AVID HDX systems and convert over to either BURL Mothership, Dante Ethernet and/or RME IO which eliminates the need for ProTools/AVID HDX hardware systems and gives the studio access to Dante Networks all native to M1 processors with zero latency even at high IO counts. Our studios have had no issues sending projects to other larger studios (Steinberg WaveLab & Cubase Pro).
Working in Music then transitioning into Film has enabled me to try so many different DAW’s. I dont hate pro-tools, but there are so many DAW’s that surpassed Avid with convenient features. The only thing that is honestly keeping Pro-tools in front is their large market share.
But I’ve found my home on Reaper. Yes it is like buying car parts and building you’re own vehicle, but when its done, you become sorta jaded against other programs.
I just finished a film with 253 tracks. Just for giggles, I wanted to see how far I could take its performance. In the end, I was able to mix the vocals, foley, music, and include ADR, with 5.1 surround. Not one track was bounced or frozen. I even had other sessions open just to copy and paste tracks. And in the end, I can multi render stems for film distribution requirements.
All of my undo’s are unlimited, and saves on a separate file. Sometimes I used the undo history just see how many hours I spent on a session lol.
Rendering alone was the number 1 reason I stopped missing PT. I havent had a single failed render, nor have I ever seen Reaper crash.
Reaper is also amazing for being able to do multiple bounces all in one go....and for the ability to use sub projects. Fortunately I have PT set up to do multiple bounces in one go too, but the sub project thing is pretty wonderful for multiple film cues.
Reaper is literally the fastest mixing DAW.... How can you say pro tools is the fastest????
I actually had a fantastic support experience with Avid a few months ago.... believe it or not. I was getting a cpu overload error, and actually had someone spend two ours on a chat with me while we forced it to happen.;.. then I sent him sessions for them to peruse. he followed up with me .... I was completely not expecting any of that.
Wow! I would love it if things started going that way
Was the problem resolved ?
@@Jay-pi9md Yes. (BTW The techs name was Jesse if he happens to read this) We traced the problem to an older version of the waves api suite combined with some acustica stuff. I updated my license and pulled the acustica plug ins and have been much more stable.
Studio one is bae...
May not be the best Daw but it’s is the most deep and featured Daw for editing and fixing audio.. I am taking Pro tools certification courses at Berklee and it has consumed a large amount of my time… I will pick up logic at a later time. Oh this was. Year ago.. Avid is Apple M1-M3 ready now as of Dec 2023
As someone who used to make a living editing audio, and as someone who has tried just about every other major DAW out there, Pro Tools is still the best at editing...it is SO fast. When I have to edit in another piece of software, I map the PT focus command keys to that software (if I can) to mimic the speed of trackball in the right hand and key commands in the left. It's not just the choice of keys, but also the way the multitool works, and the fact that you can edit down to the sample right there in the arrange window. Other DAWs toy with these features, but they seem so determined *not* to copy PT when it comes to editing, it's infuriating. I also have to second the latency discussion. It just works.
That said, complaints about Avid's business model, lack of M1 compatibility, and MIDI functionality are legit (one can get used to work on MIDI in PT, but there are so many DAWs that do it so much better.)
I compose in PT thanks to the editing functionality...give me that level and ease of editing natively in your DAW, and I will move to your DAW. (Seriously...I am looking for alternatives all the time, though I swear I've used everything but Bitwig and FL Studio at this point, including Ardour, Reaper, Logic, Studio One, Live, etc...)
the only thing PT has that reaper doesnt is that sweet sweet pen tool, and that pen tool is not worth 940 euros
@@Tuathband I love Reaper as a DAW - but editing in Reaper is still clunkier than it is in Pro Tools. I had an argument with Justin a few years back about it and he was adamant that Reaper's editing was superior, but I argued that editing audio just wasn't what he did for a living. The multi-tool, the natural key setup, and frankly just the visual feedback on waveforms and zero points crossings on Pro Tools are just better.
Everyone just loves to hate on PT, and yes, it deserves some of that hate, but for editing audio for things like video game dialogue, PT is just faster and vastly superior than anything else out there.
I’ve never used another DAW other than protools what am I missing? Stuck to it since my engineering school days.
Reaper is the Reaper for Protools! It just takes it by the Hand.
I read 75%+ of music is mixed in ProTools while the artists do their work in Ableton, Logic, Cubase, FL Studio, Reason…
Wrong. The reason why most use Pro Tools is because of Generational reasons.
The professional engineers today are from a certain generation, where Pro Tools was king (that's what they learned in)
Sadly, the generation(s) coming up are all on Logic or Ableton, they will replace the Pro Tools users in the coming future
repear feels unfinished studio one is just cubase 5 with a facelift.. protools and steinberg are gonna have far far less aliasing but for some reason prools just doesnt have any headroom on the 2 bus
Yeah, when I went to AES a while back every booth had Pro Tools, literally no Logic anywhere
Love ur content .. but I gotta say u are mistakin about the pros of using protools. You can use large consoles with other daws and run 96 plus channels. I was doing this in 2007 in sonar aka cakewalk. You have been able to do this in many daws for many years. I can do it in studio one. Also u talk about next to no latency I have had that for many many years with other daws. That comes down mostly to computer power. I would challenge any pro tools user on a Mac up against my system on windows running studio one. I have my buffer set to 16 or 32 for 99.9% of the time giving me around 1.5 mil seconds of round trip latency. My default template has 48 channels with plugins loaded on every channel and a buffet set to 16. Very fast. Only when about 100 plus plugind running do I need to up my buffer up. And that doesnt often happen till later stages of mixing. When it comes to editing speed and work flow that is all preferences..... but I can honestly say that pro tools really has way more clicks and menus to do things than most other daws. I have used about 90% of the daws out there and really pro tools has not improved there UI in more than a decade. It's very clunky and outdated. If you like it great. Just wanted to let you know that some of the pros you talk about are just not true when u say other daws don't do that as well. Keep up the great work Colt.
I used Cubase when I started to make music looong time ago, went to Logic over the years, then to ProTools because of the reason you mentioned in the video and I am back for yewrs now in Logic. Basically Logic does all the same for just 200 bucks and workes perfectly fine with all my hardware, controllers, audio interfaces etc so many collegues of movie industry are in Logic as well by a good reason. Hope more and more studios leave ProTools and they somewhen start to behave like a good DAW company with actual updates features and pricing.
Workflow in Cubase is the best (for me). Pro tools cpu usage or crashing is the best.
@@realcasper81 i tried Nuendo on Mac last year but they seem to have some problems with highend boards and a high core count and their really great support couldnt help me. They need a GUI update in some parts but some cool functions Logic dont have, however on Mac Logic is extremely well,integrated, the minor point is the active track cpu load.
Right on! You cannot, to my knowledge, record a live band with zero-latency cue mixes without an HDX system (formerly 192's, etc.). Maybe if it's an apollo-based system that's scaled up, but even still, then you're messing with daisy-chaining apollos and into the weeds with the console software for the cues. Great stuff, brother!
For sure HDX is not actual zero latency, but it effectively is zero latency when recording. I’ve never had any issues. But the workflow with latency versus Apollos is so much better. Honestly I’m considering moving to a different interface because calculating latency is infuriating with the Apollo
@@ColtCapperrune ah! I sense an upcoming video topic! Do tell! : )
In a typical small studio or home environment, a computer with a massive amount of RAM/memory is needed to keep latency at bay. Even with a powerful computer, if you try to monitor using the DAW while processing effects there will still be issues.
I have been laughed at for bringing a huge multi-track recording device with me to track small live events. There is no latency with a multi-track recorder because that tool was designed to perform one job, record and monitor without latency.
I record people every week with MY UAD Apollo X8P, Avalon, UAD 4-710d and a ISA 2, ART Pre with no Latency ... I get 16 GREAT Mic IN and 4 Cue Mix.
The interesting thing about PT is its modelled on something thats very quickly becoming obsolete because of DAWs : Desks. so it too will sink
Protools is like Microsoft office. Kinda sucks, but everyone has it.
The only reason to use Pro Tools in 2023 is because you bought into it years ago and are now experiencing Stockholm Syndrome. I get it some old dudes are set in their ways and learning new tricks "is HARD." And lets face it its like having a designer handbag at this point, it cost a lot but it does the same thing as a plastic bag from the grocery store! It dose however serve as a status symbol for obtaining DAW dumb clients. And yes I do have pro tools but only because I actually own it but I have completely moved onto another DAW that is far more used friendly and doesn't rape you in prescription fees. I do use the PRO TOOLS logo on my screen though as a client pacifier.
😂Brutal.
Pro Tools was the first…and got the best marketing name. Then they phoned it in for 20 years while everyone passed them by with features and reliability. But… they are still the “standard” because it’s easier to stay the course than have everyone using different DAW’s.
I’m so home-studio-bubblemat-on-the-wall-getting-lost-in-all-the-tabs-where-is-that-sound-coming-from producer 😳
great video!
elaborated answer: because entire industries (speaking from experience with the film industry) is built around PT, more or less… it’s extremely difficult to switch. Thanks to social media the term “audio professional” has become so SO! widely associated with people that are actually beatmakers, youtubers, bedroom producers, etc. Absolutely nothing wrong with that, there are some incredible people out there, but some of us that work in film or music studios, that have tons of gear, consoles, systems and processes hooked up and routed with PT in mind already can’t really “just buy another DAW bruh” like your average dude on UA-cam might suggest, whoops sorry, not sorry.😅 Don’t get me wrong - AVID’s pricing/business model is complete BS. It’s expensive, it’s not with the customer in mind first, it’s expensive. However, believe it or not, it’s more expensive to restructure to a completely different system in a complex studio/production company. Why? Well, the time it’s needed to do that properly is a time where you have projects, deadlines and clients waiting - basically time, people, and money left on the table. It sucks that AVID still have such a monopoly, especially in the film industry (and they know it, but still behave like corporate bastards), but it’s best to just learn to deal with it. For the time being it’s better to keep on working with what you know and just put out music/films, leaving clients happy and bringing money home, than go though a whole lot just for some eventual convenience at some point potentially quite far down the line. 😄 Hope that sheds some light! Of course, if you’re not working on a commercial film/music project that requires collaboration in a whole bunch of different studios, stick to the DAW you love and know best and just don’t think about it! :)
Thats what it bothers me when people just say "just buy a new daw bruh". I do understand that big studios cant waste time learning and having a big fuss on the hardware. They want the product, they dont care where it comes from as long as the product is made as intended. Hence why avid will never learn and will never change because they re backed up by these huge studios. The small producer doesnt give them much money anyway, hence why they changed to a subscription model. That way they can have more people trying it out and putting a few more millions in the pocket, even if the small guys dont hang out long. As someone who wants to work in orchestral composition for film and gaming, its hard to think about having to learn PT because I have no choice
@@pedrosilvaproductions Use PT with VE Pro for orchestral stuff, works great.
Pro Tools has been the most reliable DAW for me honestly. I still remember working on a project with a client in Studio One and having thousands of issues with it that I COULD NOT AFFORD with clients that are paying me. Pro Tools is like Apple, simple, no bells and whistles, but the features that it has WORK WELL. It’s a tool for professionals, not a toy DAW cluttered with unnecessary features.
Also, please, some people talking about 2010 features… freeze 15 tracks in Logic or Cubase and 15 in Pro Tools and say that again ;)
Im a HND sound production student, thats the 3rd year i'm forced to use poor tools during the course. I can not stand that sausage called "industry standard" software.
Hi Colt, I don't agree at all.
Because I respect you and your work, I guess you never deeply try know and really...I mean really try to work with Steinberg Cubase Pro. All what you mention, you can do with Cubase, especially is very easy to do all hardware routing, easiest than with Pro Tools. I didn't even mention editing or midi functions etc. I'm mixing and running 32 out of the box channels, with all compressors, effects etc. with Cubase in my studio witouth any latency. Also, I saw many times you were disapointed with ProTools..crashing or not working..never happend to me with Cubase. If we talking about moving projects from one studio to another , here in Europe, all studios have Cubase, but if you need to transfer project to your DAW you can export project in OMF or AAF file and I don't see reason why use Pro Tools in 2022. It was the best DAW before 20 years, but not anymore.
I like Pro Tools, but WHY is it not M1/ARM compatible yet? Honestly unacceptable for such a massive company with so many users tied to its ecosystem to not be keeping up with hardware that’s been out since 2020 now
Don't expect quaterly update, like compatibility with a new powerful chip, when you regularly pay your rent to the softwarelord. He gets the money, he doesn't realy need to make some effort... 😉
Anyway, as a composer PT doens't do the job for me.
I've tried it, painfully, and it was confirmed
Switching to full time FL Studio. Been using it for making beats but I'm going to learn to record, mix and master on it too. Pro Tools is ridiculous with its pricing. I'll keep it for versatility but it's just not that special to me.
I’m very fortunate that I have a 5 ISO studio here and don’t have to spend huge money booking time at any other studios. I much prefer Cubase, as they stay very state of the art and provide many things in my daily work flow (with obscene amounts of analog gear) that Pro Tools has never done. Latency compensation at mix time, for example was always so terrible on PT. It’s also nothing for me to batch export files in Cubase to work with any DAW, too. I’ve seen you post your battling of all kinds of frustrating PT’s issues, Colt and all while having zero problems and hammering down here without any lag or downtime from my rig. For you and I, our time can be serious money and I have no patience for the things I’ve seen you go through to have a DAW that can’t do the things that Cubase can and has for years. The midi editing alone would keep me off of PT.
My favorite Daw is studio one. Then Logic, the Cubase.
That intro is why.
I’m so glad I learned the shit out of pro tools. Logic just looks like a toy to me, I understand ppl not wanting to take it on. But I’m very happy I have that skill and certification
I remember dumping $700 on protools back in 2011 thinking I would have the software for life. Boy I was wrong. I now use auria pro on iPad. Free updates for life for only $50
Avid certainly has a lock on the pro studios, that is for sure. And if you want compatibility with that segment, you are pretty much obligated to pony up for a Pro Tools subscription. There are other options out there including Nuendo, Cubase, Logic, Studio One, Reaper, etc. but you don't find them in most "old school" console-based studios. Personally, I use 8 DAWs and none of them are ProTools!
The invented he DAW concept and created the first one
@@mrdenson3101 Actually, the first DAW was "Soundstream", developed in 1977. "Sound Tools" by Digidesign (the precursor of Pro Tools) did not arrive until 1989.
I've used them all on Mac, and each one has some great things about it. PT is where I get actual, real, work done the quickest. Probably because I grew up in analog studios and it feels the most comfortable to me. Kudos to Cubase Pro though, and for the amazing features of Reaper. It is a good time for all of us with such a choice of DAWs. Use what gets your work done the easiest. There is no right answer.
Protools sucks, sometimes I have sound other times no sound same settings... Can't figure it out what or where is wrong...
As a Pro Mixer.Colt is right we get only Pro Tools files but you should learn language of DAWs getting stems from other system like Logic if its not seemed out properly it will not match the instrumental(tone wise) that people were living on(hearing).I love watching Colt because he telsl it like it is, I should've introduce myself when I was at NAMM but I was doing a demo at Pro Audio Design.Colt I applaud you on channel stay rocking hope to meet in person one day.Holla at me when you in LA best JMH
PT is for engineering...not for producing / sequencing
As Triumph would say, "Protools is the best DAW...
for me to ____ on."
I have been using Reaper. I recently sent a track out to be mixed by an engineer and I mean it’s pretty easy to just send a zip of the wav files. But I guess I could see how it would be even easier to be able to send the protools session and they could just pull it up. Not worth it to pay for protools for someone like me that’s just recording my own music. Reaper was a one time $60 payment haha.
I was a Pro Tools engineer in Nashville, and the surrounding areas from 1999 to 2002 I lived in White House Tn there were 6 of us back then that had our own Pro Tools rigs and we made the mistake of only teaching everyone 1 DAW. I only owned One PT rig but some of the other guys had multiple rigs. I mostly worked with the contemporary christian artists in Hendersonville and for a few producers in town. But it was thought that only one DAW would be needed for session sharing that was if I was booked my client could take the session to another PT engineer in town. Pro Tools was nothing more than a playback machine (a glorified ADAT) So you were basically renting the Producer or Artist your quote Tape Machine. Pro Tools was never the best DAW it was just the most compatible with multichannel i/o back then. You could at least playback 16 or 24 channels from Pro Tools so mixes could be done from an SSL or some other console in town. Digidesign (pre-Avid) was super locked down back then. But it was our fault. Some PT engineers became greedy and thought that they were more important than everyone else in town. So the studios decided it was cheaper to maintain their own rigs and PT engineers compared to hiring us. I can't wait for someone like Behringer to BUY OUT Avid's audio division and hear what the BIG STUDIO have to say then? It will eventually happen. But back then PT was the only DAW that had more than 16 i/o and was stable due to hardware acceleration but in the modern era use whatever you like. Most likely if you are going to a commercial studio it's for tracking and for the analog so if you have to use PT at least know enough to record and bounce out files to work with later. It less common for anyone to mix in a commercial space unless you own that commercial studio. But you could always just take your computer with you to a studio and use whatever you prefer along with the great analog gear and microphones at commercial spaces. Cheer Great video Colt!
Cubase Pro has an endless amount of I/O. The only limit is your interface or console in that arena.
@@barnpostmedia Sure it can today but not in 1999 to 2001/2002 which is what I was talking about Pro Tools was the only DAW that could playback 24 outputs line outputs to a console. While all of the rest like Cubase Logic and even hardware based DAW like Fairlights's MFX digital audio workstation it wasn't until Fairlight made the Dream Constellation in 2004 digital audio workstation with integrated audio control surface and dedicated mixing console could any DAW output more than 24 analog outputs to a console. That was when Cubase and Logic and the rest of the DAWs moved to 48 outputs so they could complete with multi tape machine setus for post audio for the movie industry. But after 2004 DAWs moved really fast and now we can have 128 outputs on any daw and you are only limited but the i/o converters you have.
Protools is the defacto standard for movie mixing and foley editing. Why? Because it was adopted by the industry and evolved with the industry, is like the Photoshop for audio. For film/trailer composition is Logic but in that department there are also composers using other DAWs.
I used Protools in my days when I had no other job but foley editing, for that job Protools is quite efficient. The guy recording the foley and the guy mastering the whole movies were also using Protools so everything was streamlined.
Do I like Protools? Yes is nice for those things.
Do I use Protools? No. I do videgames related work so I use FL Studio (Sound Design, music composition, non orchestral scoring, eveything else), Studio One (Orchestral / Trailer scoring) and FMod.
I've worked a lot on both Logic and Pro Tools. Very much agree about Pro Tools' editing abilities, but if you dig into Logic's settings you can get close to that level. I only use Logic now but I do have love for Pro Tools. The same can not be said for Avid. They require you to pay for customer service / support calls, which blew my mind when I found that out. Also, the price is ridiculous - up to $1000 PER YEAR. How long will Avid be ubiquitous? I think the mighty will fall before too long, despite its choke-hold on the big studios. The more affordable options (Logic is $200 for LIFE with free updates) will take over eventually, or force Avid to adapt.
Logic is only $200 for life because apple owns it and it’s not how they make their money. Avid makes most of its money from PT and I/O but I/O has died off over the years due to the apollos and others are stepping up and filling the needs that engineers have been complaining about for years. If AVID would only listen to their customers they still be on top. But since they don’t things have changed drastically! I have been in PT for 12 years, and have been using Ableton for production, and ProTools for mixing. If Ableton & ProTools made a baby it would be game over.
Late but what I don't understand is why studios aren't just set up for people to bring in their own laptops with their own software that they already use... they can have a Thunderbolt dock connecting everything. The only person I know who's done that is Skrillex with OWSLA lmao
Love your channel and vids Colt, but you’re out of your mind(joking) believing Protools is the best DAW for editing!! logic and studio one blow Protools out of the water in editing functionality from my experience. I believe protools is still the most popular among large studios as you mentioned with the analog integration but also they were first out of the gate and studios are now more or less stuck with it because every studio has it as you mentioned, and heavily invested in it. No one wants to be left out of business because they don’t have the “ industry standard”. If all the DAWs we have today were available and released at the same time years ago, I don’t think there would be a standard DAW as each offer unique tools.. AVID captured the market at the right time and place it seems and are still lucky enough after all these years for it to be standard in large studios. It’s also hard to imagine a company such as AVID not being M1 compatible, that is a little ridiculous for the “industry standard” after 2 years.
Back in 1995 when I bought my first DAW, there were a few on the market and at that time you could hear the difference between the DAW's. I went with Sonic Solutions which was the only one that was 24bit. I could hear the difference between ProTools and Sonic. I was also going into film sound design and post. Sonic's ability in editing was far better than the others at the time. Too bad Sonic decided go into DVD mastering instead of sticking to sound. From there I went to Wave Frame because it was the closest to Sonic Solutions, but Wave Frame then turned in to Merging Technologies. I was on Merging for a few years, and I loved Merging but the cost was just too high. Sonic Solutions and Merging were both like Swiss army knives and you could set up your work space any way you want. Then I went to ProTools and just go frustrated with the crashes and just how unelegant it was to edit on ProTools. Now I am on Reaper, just because I can set up my work space as I want it and I am able to use OSC to control Reaper. All my plugin shortcuts are on my Android pad and I don't have to search for things. In sound time is money, the faster you can do something without thinking the faster and better it gets done. ProTools seemed to always screw up my creative juices. I wish Avid would focus more on what we need as a DAW than how they can make the most money from us. If ProTools in any way was far superior to all the other DAW I would have been on it long before and I would still be on it. I am very happy with Reaper, it has saved me at least 2 hours on every mix. So it is making me money as well.
Aside from the editing, Stuff like FL, Ableton are limited for me.
I make movies as well as music and the ability to import my footage and score it in Pro Tools is another reason
Pro Tools wins by a mile
We use Reaper, Pyramix, Logic, Live and as a fallback, ProTools. Reaper has the most efficient editing and mastering workflow and lowest latency, Pyramix is necessary for DSD, Logic is still popular with many and ProTools and AATranslator provides inter-studio IO support.
Have you heard of Cakeswake😋
It’s pricey on everything you want the best mic 10k you want the best compressor it’s 10k you the best eq its 10k 😉 you about to make 100k a year but wanna pay $100 they ain’t dumb it cost to run a business 👩💼 now if you are doing this for fun well i have cool edit still on my hard drive 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’m just a more logical person.
I feel like people would think were Crazy getting all hyped about it..I remember the first time I clicked to open it..I felt like a Kid in a Candy store..😅
Meh. I've just jumped into Studio One and it's awesome. And considering Fender just bought into it? I predict it will overtake the entire field very soon. It's a beast. Pro Tools has had its moment. But no more.
Fender's CEO wants to dumb it down. My bet, S1 will be catering more and more to the hobbyist and beatmaking markets not the pro, commercial studio, industry.
@@PlottingTheDownfall That's definitely a possibility. But word is that Fender is going to be hands off software development and more involved popularizing it with endorsements along with a few Fender plugins. That would be fine by me. If not? I'm out. 🤷♂
I started on pro tools 7. I miss pro tools 8. I've used pro tools for years. About the past 5 years I been using Fl studio, and I love it. I think eventually I want pro tools again, but I'm definitely keeping fl forever. 💯🔥🔥🎶
TDM/HDX system are still the best for surround mixing and post production, low latency recording and easy (but expensive) expansion, working with the DSPs to handle the mixing is something nobody ese offers, the software and hardware are top notch, the problem with AVID since they bought DIgidesign is their greedy behaviour
If you're recording, and editing audio it's fantastic. If your a musician that uses mostly VSTs, I would highly recommend not using it. 5 steps in pro tools is one button in FL Studio, Logic or Ableton. I'm certified in Pro Tools and have overpaid for it one two many times. Pro tools' best function is the playlist comp. Everything else is bulky
I agree with you Mr. Colt Capperrune. I purchased the Roland Fantom 7 which is a remarkable synth but in terms of DAW integration, it is geared around Ableton, of all things. Now Ableton is a fine software; nothing wrong with it. But why in the world would such a relatively high-end synth as the Roland Fantom 7 NOT sync just as well with the most popular and great software as Pro Tools? I do not know.
Because Ableton presently dominates the EDM space, where the Fantom is most likely to live.
@@starman5754 Great music can be produced on any DAW but it's a fact the majority of our greatest composers and songwriters did not use Ableton for their productions. I don't doubt you're veracity regarding the "EDM space" but that's one "space". I still prefer Pro Tools. Guess I'll have to select a different keyboard that's not so specialized for the EDM market. Thank you for your reply.
@@___HH___ You can prefer what you want. There's no need to "quote" and denigrate a music genre you have no clue about. EDM/Ableton is presently a substantial force in the music industry and deserves its share of respect, as a serious marketing decision by Roland obviously reflects. You mentioned you had already purchased the Roland Fantom 7. It sounds like your selection has already been made unless you plan on returning it.
However, do you really need "DAW integration" that badly in a general purpose keyboard/synth in a PT recording/mixing environment? Since Ableton is also used in live shows, having the "DAW controls" quickly handy to the performer directly at the keyboard is a big deal. While it might be occasionaly handy In a PT studio environment, it's not nearly as relevant there.
Otherwise, most keyboards are purchased for their particular sound sets and playability. If the Fantom meets those needs for you, you should be in good shape.
@@starman5754 I'm not sure exactly where you're coming from "starman" but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Of course I can "prefer what I want"! If you will re-read my previous comment, you'll see I did not "denigrate" any musical genre! Unless you have problems with comprehension, you'll realize that if you re-read my comment. I own 3 studios and 47 different boards and all that comes with a slough of techs that can pretty much make everything work. It was just a comment "starman". I'm fully aware that keyboards have their specialized functionality. Right from the top I simply voiced my opinion that I was surprised at the DAW limitation of this Fantom keyboard. If you read that again, you'll see I did not denigrate it either! I'm not going any further into this with you. Have yourself a nice day.
Ableton thoughts?