Since I got into the N54 world I've been watching UA-cam content from to many channels. By far I consider this channel the most informative and nutritive for an N54 , how ever I still would like to know exactly why b58 coils and not eldors . Still can't see a diference on the running of the car
The main thing would be to be able to maintain a decent spark gap for daily driving and cold starts and fuel economy but not have it blow out under load at high RPMS. Most people are running stock coils but are closing up the gap to avoid misfires which sacrifices daily drivability but this would only come into play on 500 WHP+ cars IMO.
@@VehicularDIY again by far the most nutritive channel for N54, I'm pretty sure no other UA-cam would be able to give me that explanation. BTW , are you running CDV delete in your clutch ?
I am from Toronto / Canada .. owning x3 2013 / N20... new engine and timing chain replaced by bmw in 2019 at 146kkm.. now i am at 193kkm.. after seeing multiple videos from this channel.. my confidence level is going keep the vehicle for another 3 to 4 years instead of replacing it but unfortunately i don't have a repair guy like you nearby. If anyone around , would appreciate if you can share and advise
I gave the video a "like" because I think you put a lot of effort into providing videos that are questions for diy'ers. I personally believe there are so many steps in this kit that can go wrong and cause misfires that your average diy"er would be ill advised to try it. With the exception of the adapter brackets(great design and making use of factory points of connection) it just seems to me to be a possible cause of more problems than it solves. Keep up the good work .
Huge fan. I've previously asked if you could record a DIY video on an N55 boost gauge install. Been looking all over the internet for details and can't seem to find one. The way you explain, and provide details is awesome. Thank You
I purchased the kit! Good price and I’m saving $100 for a small amount of labor. I also like the Individual plates instead of one large plate from the popular competitors. And lastly, they are in stock
It seems that really hurt the Audi/Bimmerlife coil market share🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️stuff like this should make BMWs more impressive to see reverse compatibility, if only we could get people to maintain these cars they would do much better
Excellent video! Informative and timely. I recently upgraded from OEM Bosch coils to OEM Eldor coils on my N54, but love the idea of future proofing my setup a bit.
Does this setup provide beter performance than say a PR setup? Without knowing the cost per coil and the kit being $200, I question if the "Pros" (If any) justify the cost and work necessary to make them work as well as if it makes it more cost effective than a PR setup?
Great video, I learned a lot from this channel, I don't think these coils are necessary , even the Audi coils set up was not needed, I have Eldors now but my original Bosch coils were fine for 20 PSI boost and 492 WHP,
Like he said. There are more benefits than just avoiding misfires. You can gap your plugs to factory specs which gives you better drivability and efficiency without blowing the spark out. And that’s simply because these coils generate significantly mode energy. It’s a known weakness for N54s making big power. All the serious builds are going to these coils, which should tell you all you need to know. No offense to Vehicle Virals.
*update* anyone looking b58 coils on your car be cautious if you opt for Vargas /VTT's kit. I spent $500 thinking their kit was complete and looked great but their wiring harnesses are sketchy at best. When installing i did notice that the wiring harness for my coil 1 had a loose brown wire. I wanted to be safe so i disconnected, inspected, and reconnected again to where it seemed solid. I had it set to oem dwell so it wouldnt tax my dme80 power supply as much but within like 20-30 seconds it stopped running and i started smelling smoke. Coil 1 had melted and caught fire. When i reached out to VTT they tried blaming the oem selection dwell and basically said it was all my fault without offering any real help. Then they told me to pay to ship it back so they could inspect before they might offer me a refund. They took no accountability for their faulty 3d printed connectors and acted like i was some idiot for thinking they shouldnt melt with the oem setting instead of the b58 setting on my tune. Realistically, just glad i took these out and only had a 30amp fuse pop in my dme box. Could have been much worse and was worried this fried my ecu but luckily it didnt.
I don't know....seems like Vehicular Homicide of your BMW electric system. Not like these cars need more shit to go wrong... Plus what do you get out of doing this? If your coils are dead you replace them. I don't get it.
Hi! Thanks for the content! Recently I've been considering the 550s with the N63, but mostly starting from 2013-2014, with Valvetronic. The engine compartment seems to heat up a lot in dense traffic and can break a lot, but seems to hold up fine when driven on highway. I don't know if you're interested in working on one of those, but I would 😀
Maybe a high mile one down the line could make some good content on the channel. I had the updated motor on my 2015 X5 before, it didn't have a lot of miles (under 60K) so no issues had popped up as of yet.
@@VehicularDIY Thanks, looking forward if any! Acutally, the hiher mileage, the better, like 150k+ . I'm from France and these are rare here, but a lot more common in North America, so probably cheaper!
Great tip for us that are still running an msd80 and maybe keeping it on oem dwell. I did upgrade the resistors after i fried them but, does anyone know if these will hold up on stock dwell running close to 600hp? I don't want to risk killing my dme by selecting the b58 option in mhd if i dont have to. I guess i'll be finding out first hand eventually if no one knows for sure.
Hey man. Love the content. I see you're running the cowl delete with the BMS filters. I'm wondering if you have any water issues pooling up anywhere. Also I read that it sucks up engine heat since the cowl is no longer there and you need to run recirculation more or even AC. Do you find the fan air temp to be hotter?
My 2011 X5 will not pass emission test. Can anyone help? I have taken it to dealer and several mechanics, they are all bs. Dealer tells me it’s the cylinder head. After having for a week and couldn’t find any problem, they made up a cylinder problem and tells me it will cost $14k. Help anyone? Please
You mentioned you have over 100k on your 440i. I have a 2018 m240i, I love the car but I only have 19k miles. Any big issues with your B58 on the journey to 100k outside of normal maintenance schedule?
Are you affiliated with Protool at all? I have a very unique way of starting my E60. Basically I have Protool on my screen and I have a special sequence of clicks in order to put electricity to my ignition. In other words nobody but me can start my car. I would be willing to show you if you wanted that for content.
I'm curious. Does the N54 engine also have the issue with the fuel injector "popping"? Dad's N55 had a Cylinder 2 misfire and it was popping at idle. Under load, there was a consistent thud, inline with the operation of the injector. Indie claimed it was a seal that went bad and was allowing air through and causing the injector to "jiggle" slightly. Cost us 800 to fix that. Curious to know if it's easily done in case it happens again
How did they fix it? My n54 injector on cylinder 2 is kinda loose in there and also has a slight jiggle. But to answer your question, I havn’t heard of this being common. I took my injectors out around 6 times and maybe I wore out the head jiggling it to come out. Idk but I’m curious to hear how the shop fixed your problem
@@Garik.e60 basically, the indie said that the "washer" (his words) went bad and they replaced it. The reason its expensive is cause, well, you need that special tool to remove the injector. He said that the injector needed to be removed, and the respective washers and seals were to be replaced. Sadly, I don't have a copy of the work report, else I would check it again. Maybe it's somewhere in the records.
@@indianboy0453 Man I don't know about N55 but on my N54 it was $6 for the coupling ring and $2 for the seal. I can't imagine being charged 800 for that. I'm really hoping there was some intense work done for that bill. Thanks for replying.
@@Garik.e60 The N55 is more or less similar to the N54. Just a change in timings, turbos, and layout, but it's mostly the same. That said, the indy specializes in German cars so they have a high pay rate. They were also doing some shop renovations and improvements so prices were unfortunately expensive. This was also at the time when I wasn't comfortable working on my parents cars. When I did my mother's N52 upper gaskets, I started to be more open to working on the N55. Hence why I'm trying to find out more about the injectors and the work needed for the seals. It's entirely possible they replaced all the seals in all injectors. I'd have to check though
@@indianboy0453 That’s awesome man. I saved my parents a pretty penny diy-ing everything. I’m a little privaleged because a friend of ours has a shop so I get to use the lift for little things here and there. In that case if the n55 is pretty much the n54, theres nothing complicated just a bunch of stuff to take apart. If you do a lot of work on n52, don’t be hesitated to work on the n55. 👍👍👍
How are these coils working out for you? Any issues? I'm having misfires and stutters at high RPM, with my 2007 335xi. I replaced the VANOS but that didn't help. I have some new plugs I'm going to put in and see, but I'm thinking with 157k, they probably haven't been replaced yet. Any thoughts?
I have a FBO+ 2013 e92 335is and supposedly I should have MSD81 but I saw in Protools that I have MSD80 so not sure what I have. Any other way to tell? I haven’t had any issues.
And I mean with the n52 engine not in general because you’re not forcing induction into your engine there is no need to increase your coil output it does not increase horsepower just an over working coil I don’t mean to be rude but look into genuine mods if you want power out of ur n52
After 40k in maintenance on my n54 engine in 76k miles [ purchased at 105k miles ] I finally traded it in for a Toyota... Time to unsub and leave this part of my life behind me... for DIYers these cars are pretty neat... Unbeatable power and smoothness from these engines. My 135i was GREAT in the Santa Cruz mountains. But unbelievably fragile at higher mileage.
Fragile? It seems a case of bad lemon. I have +600hp, more than 200000km, a some track days and still like a charm with a normal maintenance. I only wait that my next car hold on as long as this.
You cant own a high mileage BMW without being a DIYer or suddenly becoming one out of necessity lol. That being said, my 150k mileage n54 running FBO and full ethanol wants to have a word with fragility. Do your belts, pulleys, water pump and overflow, and have an aluminum charge pipe, bam bullet proof.
Since I got into the N54 world I've been watching UA-cam content from to many channels. By far I consider this channel the most informative and nutritive for an N54 , how ever I still would like to know exactly why b58 coils and not eldors . Still can't see a diference on the running of the car
Yes, I'm not sure after watching it what the benefit is. My brain hurts
Budget Bimmers is good if you got an N54. They don't upload anymore tho
@@Czechbound less time correction
The main thing would be to be able to maintain a decent spark gap for daily driving and cold starts and fuel economy but not have it blow out under load at high RPMS. Most people are running stock coils but are closing up the gap to avoid misfires which sacrifices daily drivability but this would only come into play on 500 WHP+ cars IMO.
@@VehicularDIY again by far the most nutritive channel for N54, I'm pretty sure no other UA-cam would be able to give me that explanation. BTW , are you running CDV delete in your clutch ?
I am from Toronto / Canada .. owning x3 2013 / N20... new engine and timing chain replaced by bmw in 2019 at 146kkm.. now i am at 193kkm.. after seeing multiple videos from this channel.. my confidence level is going keep the vehicle for another 3 to 4 years instead of replacing it but unfortunately i don't have a repair guy like you nearby. If anyone around , would appreciate if you can share and advise
I gave the video a "like" because I think you put a lot of effort into providing videos that are questions for diy'ers. I personally believe there are so many steps in this kit that can go wrong and cause misfires that your average diy"er would be ill advised to try it. With the exception of the adapter brackets(great design and making use of factory points of connection) it just seems to me to be a possible cause of more problems than it solves. Keep up the good work .
Perhaps down the line someone could make a plug and play adapter harness and a boot that would be a straight drop in.
While yes alot may not be capable....their are many who are and appreciate the information! Thank you! Love from ohio
I'd love to see you buy and build a 335D. After doing the ABC deletes along with Swirl flaps they are incredibly reliable and fun.
Super excited for the single turbo install
Same!!
Huge fan. I've previously asked if you could record a DIY video on an N55 boost gauge install. Been looking all over the internet for details and can't seem to find one. The way you explain, and provide details is awesome. Thank You
Those audi coils were the first thing I saw from you and the detail in your video just blew my mind! Never skipped a video after that
Thanks for watching!
I started with the BMW Doctor but this channel has way more usable content for the curious modifier dYI girl or guy, Thanks!
This channel has Best BMW content by far.
I purchased the kit! Good price and I’m saving $100 for a small amount of labor. I also like the Individual plates instead of one large plate from the popular competitors. And lastly, they are in stock
This is really cool. I'll stick with the Audi coils because they're easier to replace if needed
haha..
It seems that really hurt the Audi/Bimmerlife coil market share🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️stuff like this should make BMWs more impressive to see reverse compatibility, if only we could get people to maintain these cars they would do much better
Excellent video! Informative and timely. I recently upgraded from OEM Bosch coils to OEM Eldor coils on my N54, but love the idea of future proofing my setup a bit.
Great vid bro, you should make a gopro video driving all your cars around aggressively. your driving style is clean.
I have a single turbo on my 135i running bimmerlife coils so far works like a dream in 28psi
The low temp soldier butt connector will crack cause a intermittent connection. This is just a fyi. If you start having issues later down the road.
Amazing always!!! Would this process benefit n52 na with full bolt on (msv80)
Very cool test project! Thanks for uploading this and sharing!!
You should do a video on b58 spark plug install w these coils
Looking forward to the single turbo install. Im looking to install the DR700 in the near future.
Does this setup provide beter performance than say a PR setup? Without knowing the cost per coil and the kit being $200, I question if the "Pros" (If any) justify the cost and work necessary to make them work as well as if it makes it more cost effective than a PR setup?
We will donate to make sure you get the best single turbo there is
@vehicular DIY speed tech top mount kit is coming out soon! I’d love to see you try that out
Great video, I learned a lot from this channel, I don't think these coils are necessary , even the Audi coils set up was not needed, I have Eldors now but my original Bosch coils were fine for 20 PSI boost and 492 WHP,
The eldor pencil coils hold up pretty well for a stock turbo car.
@@VehicularDIY I believe vehicle virals is running Eldors coils on his ST car making about 700hp. We’ll see how it holds up long term I guess
Like he said. There are more benefits than just avoiding misfires. You can gap your plugs to factory specs which gives you better drivability and efficiency without blowing the spark out. And that’s simply because these coils generate significantly mode energy. It’s a known weakness for N54s making big power. All the serious builds are going to these coils, which should tell you all you need to know. No offense to Vehicle Virals.
You make me wanna keep my N54! Thank you lol!
*update* anyone looking b58 coils on your car be cautious if you opt for Vargas /VTT's kit. I spent $500 thinking their kit was complete and looked great but their wiring harnesses are sketchy at best. When installing i did notice that the wiring harness for my coil 1 had a loose brown wire. I wanted to be safe so i disconnected, inspected, and reconnected again to where it seemed solid. I had it set to oem dwell so it wouldnt tax my dme80 power supply as much but within like 20-30 seconds it stopped running and i started smelling smoke. Coil 1 had melted and caught fire. When i reached out to VTT they tried blaming the oem selection dwell and basically said it was all my fault without offering any real help. Then they told me to pay to ship it back so they could inspect before they might offer me a refund. They took no accountability for their faulty 3d printed connectors and acted like i was some idiot for thinking they shouldnt melt with the oem setting instead of the b58 setting on my tune. Realistically, just glad i took these out and only had a 30amp fuse pop in my dme box. Could have been much worse and was worried this fried my ecu but luckily it didnt.
Another great video. Defiantly doing this for when im due for coils. Thanks
I don't know....seems like Vehicular Homicide of your BMW electric system. Not like these cars need more shit to go wrong... Plus what do you get out of doing this? If your coils are dead you replace them. I don't get it.
I'd say only if you're looking to make over 500 WHP would these come into play.
Wow looks like a great kit. Thanks for sharing. Dutch regards, Nico.
Hi! Thanks for the content!
Recently I've been considering the 550s with the N63, but mostly starting from 2013-2014, with Valvetronic. The engine compartment seems to heat up a lot in dense traffic and can break a lot, but seems to hold up fine when driven on highway.
I don't know if you're interested in working on one of those, but I would 😀
Maybe a high mile one down the line could make some good content on the channel. I had the updated motor on my 2015 X5 before, it didn't have a lot of miles (under 60K) so no issues had popped up as of yet.
@@VehicularDIY Thanks, looking forward if any!
Acutally, the hiher mileage, the better, like 150k+ . I'm from France and these are rare here, but a lot more common in North America, so probably cheaper!
my mazda 3 had coils like this its very high compression coils went 200k
Great tip for us that are still running an msd80 and maybe keeping it on oem dwell. I did upgrade the resistors after i fried them but, does anyone know if these will hold up on stock dwell running close to 600hp? I don't want to risk killing my dme by selecting the b58 option in mhd if i dont have to. I guess i'll be finding out first hand eventually if no one knows for sure.
Can you do a video on the motiv reflex kit installation they are none out there
1 turbo means you will need to buy stock in o2 sensors and keep 3 extras in the car at all times
Thank you but I dont like doing modifications to my car. I like to keep the original settings. Why start doing that.?
He said he’s doing this to prepare for a single turbo did you even watch the video? Lol
Just buy an n55 !!
What was that software you were using to flash the coils?
Well could you tell a difference was it worth the money you spent
Hey man. Love the content. I see you're running the cowl delete with the BMS filters. I'm wondering if you have any water issues pooling up anywhere. Also I read that it sucks up engine heat since the cowl is no longer there and you need to run recirculation more or even AC. Do you find the fan air temp to be hotter?
Awesome video as usual…
My 2011 X5 will not pass emission test. Can anyone help? I have taken it to dealer and several mechanics, they are all bs. Dealer tells me it’s the cylinder head. After having for a week and couldn’t find any problem, they made up a cylinder problem and tells me it will cost $14k. Help anyone? Please
Hey quick question, do you have any clue why a bmw would like start cutting out when i try to step on it??
You mentioned you have over 100k on your 440i. I have a 2018 m240i, I love the car but I only have 19k miles. Any big issues with your B58 on the journey to 100k outside of normal maintenance schedule?
I bought it recently with 107K miles on it. It's a 2018 as well. No issues at the moment but I don't have the full history of the car.
@@VehicularDIY Ah gotcha, I'll definitely be looking out for new vids on that 440, looks sweet!
Awesome video…
Any chance you’d consider swapping in Xdrive to make use of the planned ST?
Pretty cool! Overkill for n52?
Love you guy … and my n54 😜
Are you affiliated with Protool at all? I have a very unique way of starting my E60. Basically I have Protool on my screen and I have a special sequence of clicks in order to put electricity to my ignition. In other words nobody but me can start my car. I would be willing to show you if you wanted that for content.
Why not running B58 coils options on MHD app ?
When Are you going to pick up an E90 M3?
Going single turbo with stock engine internals ?
Yo I'm hype! 2020 tech in the engine bay 😎
So cool that there are factory holes to insert those T15s on the engine valve cover
I'm curious. Does the N54 engine also have the issue with the fuel injector "popping"? Dad's N55 had a Cylinder 2 misfire and it was popping at idle. Under load, there was a consistent thud, inline with the operation of the injector.
Indie claimed it was a seal that went bad and was allowing air through and causing the injector to "jiggle" slightly.
Cost us 800 to fix that. Curious to know if it's easily done in case it happens again
How did they fix it? My n54 injector on cylinder 2 is kinda loose in there and also has a slight jiggle. But to answer your question, I havn’t heard of this being common. I took my injectors out around 6 times and maybe I wore out the head jiggling it to come out. Idk but I’m curious to hear how the shop fixed your problem
@@Garik.e60 basically, the indie said that the "washer" (his words) went bad and they replaced it. The reason its expensive is cause, well, you need that special tool to remove the injector. He said that the injector needed to be removed, and the respective washers and seals were to be replaced. Sadly, I don't have a copy of the work report, else I would check it again. Maybe it's somewhere in the records.
@@indianboy0453 Man I don't know about N55 but on my N54 it was $6 for the coupling ring and $2 for the seal. I can't imagine being charged 800 for that. I'm really hoping there was some intense work done for that bill. Thanks for replying.
@@Garik.e60 The N55 is more or less similar to the N54. Just a change in timings, turbos, and layout, but it's mostly the same.
That said, the indy specializes in German cars so they have a high pay rate. They were also doing some shop renovations and improvements so prices were unfortunately expensive.
This was also at the time when I wasn't comfortable working on my parents cars. When I did my mother's N52 upper gaskets, I started to be more open to working on the N55. Hence why I'm trying to find out more about the injectors and the work needed for the seals.
It's entirely possible they replaced all the seals in all injectors. I'd have to check though
@@indianboy0453 That’s awesome man. I saved my parents a pretty penny diy-ing everything. I’m a little privaleged because a friend of ours has a shop so I get to use the lift for little things here and there. In that case if the n55 is pretty much the n54, theres nothing complicated just a bunch of stuff to take apart. If you do a lot of work on n52, don’t be hesitated to work on the n55. 👍👍👍
Is there a benefit of these over PR coils?
I love this man thank you
i thought about b58 coils but then thought of part avaliability and just went audi r8 or 2013 vw a3 for parts stores lol
Dang I need that tablet for when I do my Protools coding, what brand tab?
It's a Samsung Fold 3.
Rebuilding the coils each time they were due for a change could get old.
Any idea if they will last longer than the original OEM?
If the coil fails you could just move the boot over to the new coil as it pops right off.
Can you make a video on how to do a wheel hub
I have one on the front wheel bearings.
Solid.
What about the Precision Raceworks coils? Are tbese better?
They've been proven but I'd say the B58 coils are really good as they are OEM quality and have been handling big power on the Supras.
Where are you located?
Will this B58 kit fit the N55 (example the F10/F15) as well? TIA
I am working on the N55 and S55 kits. I have prototypes...
How are these coils working out for you? Any issues? I'm having misfires and stutters at high RPM, with my 2007 335xi. I replaced the VANOS but that didn't help. I have some new plugs I'm going to put in and see, but I'm thinking with 157k, they probably haven't been replaced yet. Any thoughts?
Change the coils along with the plugs all at the same time, had this issue and was fixed by replacing coils and plugs
Side question. Which mhd version are you using?
I'm running v 2.30
I have a FBO+ 2013 e92 335is and supposedly I should have MSD81 but I saw in Protools that I have MSD80 so not sure what I have. Any other way to tell? I haven’t had any issues.
I believe the change over occurred in 2009 so you'd have the MSD81. You could always pop the lid on the DME cover and lift it out to verify.
@@VehicularDIY thanks I’m not sure why protools says MSD80
This should work the same on an N52 e90
They would but they wouldn't really offer much benefit as these come in to play over 400 WHP.
Do you have any way to direct message, or email you?
Bad Bunny kit
Going single turbo stage 3?
I'm aiming for 550 whp on 93 so probably a 62 mm turbo.
@@VehicularDIY 550whp is good. What do stock N54's dyno?
More b58 videos please
They're coming for sure.
sell me your old audi ones !?
Would this be something you could do with the N52 as well? And would the benefits be similar with the N54?
You do not need anything over the stock ignition system to be quite frank there is no benefit to having a stronger coil
And I mean with the n52 engine not in general because you’re not forcing induction into your engine there is no need to increase your coil output it does not increase horsepower just an over working coil I don’t mean to be rude but look into genuine mods if you want power out of ur n52
@@scaredshot9162 So these woulnd't really benefit being a supporting mod to 3SIM, intake, exhaust, and a tune?
R8 looked better. Performance wise you probably won't notice anything.
I’m sure sucking intake air off the hot engine block must produce crazy HP. This guy is clueless.
Old discussion. "yawn"
🇧🇷🇧🇷👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
🤣🤣 “how to make bmw work”
U have such a monotone voice
First!
After 40k in maintenance on my n54 engine in 76k miles [ purchased at 105k miles ] I finally traded it in for a Toyota... Time to unsub and leave this part of my life behind me... for DIYers these cars are pretty neat... Unbeatable power and smoothness from these engines. My 135i was GREAT in the Santa Cruz mountains. But unbelievably fragile at higher mileage.
All the best, thanks for watching.
Fragile? It seems a case of bad lemon. I have +600hp, more than 200000km, a some track days and still like a charm with a normal maintenance.
I only wait that my next car hold on as long as this.
Is it a new Supra lol
@@ivorproblem1332 lolololololl
You cant own a high mileage BMW without being a DIYer or suddenly becoming one out of necessity lol. That being said, my 150k mileage n54 running FBO and full ethanol wants to have a word with fragility. Do your belts, pulleys, water pump and overflow, and have an aluminum charge pipe, bam bullet proof.