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A spat between a developer and a publisher has made the internet rounds, and it seems were a now in an age of nuance.
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7:22 To use my favorite quote from Fallout: New Vegas: "Time you enjoy wasting isn't wasted time." Something I repeat to myself all the time when confronted with anyone's activities that I find silly or frivolous.
Some prefer to assume the position...
Ah yes the sage, elder commentary of Fros- "Born in 95..." FROST IS A YOUNGIN?!
I will never emotionally recover from the fact Frost is younger than me 😂 man sounds like he's been a gaming veteran since the 1800s...
@@RiposteBK Same. I've got 7 years on him, lmao. I thought he was closer to my age. Whoops.
I could drive before he got on this earth... >.>
Damn...I was born in '75. I feel ancient now...
@@RiposteBK Wisdom has no age :p He's 5 years younger than I, but honestly he feels more wizened than I am, and I'm cool with that :p
Frost hitting me with Totalbiscuit after all these years. I'd forgotten that I missed him
Damn, there's a callback that hits hard. 😔
TB would be proud that the torch was carried forward.
Gosh it feels bad, TB was the voice that held some publishers to account. They may not have liked what he said, but they would begrudgingly accept if they stepped to far out of line with some of them. Now it just feels like there is no accountability, journalists being yellow bellied cowards. Agendaists trying to push people into fake issues. And shocking lack of ethics from top to bottom... I miss the 00's and teens.
I'm never going to forget him. He is one of the main reasons I got so invested in games and game design.
Still got a House Biscuit t-shirt.
"If you're only ever yelling at one type of people, maybe you're not the moral center." My god. I wish every politician could hear these words.
And also most people who have made the D or R on their voter registration card a part of their identity as people, rather than their favorite team in the world's least fun sport.
@@davidskidmore3442 I think you can erase the words "a part of" in that sentence, dude.
This is also a good time, now that the meteoric rise of our industry is starting to level out (or took a humbling sock filled with rolled up quarters to the face for those actually working in the industry) to do something we really should have done near the start of the first spike in the industry, "preservation of our history". With eyes falling from the push for bigger, better, prettier, and staggeringly expensive games, how we interact with, make accessible, and redistribute our history should be a serious question with long term thought and plans. We have this opportunity, lets make the most of it.
The rise of the indies are upon us, and I for one welcome them. At least it's easier to tell if I'm going to like a game or not after 30 minutes.
"but preservation doesn't make money! Green line go up, not down!" - big mucky muck CEO #185045840
Thank god for fan communities across the internet trying to preserve gaming and internet history. I dread to think where we would be without them : /
Petition to make it illegal for anyone emplyed by Second Wind to reveal what year they were born to stop me from crumbling into dust.
Great video all the same.
Join me in the dustpan, fellow elder. (Cripes, I _graduated high school_ before Frost was born.)
Watching the "gaming industry" be stuck on a endless cycle of growth without expecting any kind of failure to create a long chain-reaction of FUCK is like reading about the Roman Empire.
They experienced a helluva boom during Covid lockdowns and are still actively chasing those numbers. They're missing the cause of the climb and focused more on just climbing.
Honestly you're describing most major industries.
What books have you been reading? The Western Roman Empire didn't grow for 400 years before collapsing and the Eastern Roman Empire steadily shrank for 1000 years, never losing discipline until their last city fell.
You might as well blame climate change on absolute monarchy or Brexit on vikings.
I mean you can say that for our entire economy writ large as well
@@acetrigger1337 roman empire? try the general management strategy of every large firm for the past four decades, peaking with the money-hemorrhaging startups of the 2010s that somehow prop up market caps in the billions with insolvent unit economics. or how about the tech companies jumping from energy burning scam to energy burning scam to prevent the bottom from falling out of their overbuilt physical plant? no need to invoke history when we're well and truly in the era of fake growth
The point about Gen Z being console agnostic is so true. I've been playing Nintendo games for years but would never consider myself a 'nintendo fangirl'. I happily play friends' X-boxs or Playstations and have never once in my life felt the urge to defend Nintendo in a comment section lol. If Nintendo started putting their exclusives on PC then I would never buy another one of their consoles again. If a game doesn't have cross-platform multiplayer then I don't buy it. If I can't play with my friends because of console limitations, then there's no point in me even owning that game.
Same. I only got a PS5 because Bloodborne is a PS exclusive and I learned that the PS5 would play nearly all PS4 games, so that's what I went with to play a game that is now one of my favorites. Had it been on PC or Xbox, then I might have gone that route instead. Luckily it works out that the games that I want to play are either on multiple platforms or already exclusive to PlayStation. I'd been considering a Switch for a while, but at this point I might as well wait until the Switch 2 releases. I might snag one if it'll be backwards compatible with Switch (Switch 1?) games.
It's great to hear it. I've been console agnostic as well, but didn't realize it was becoming a more common practice. Considering how easily it pushed people to defend shady practices, and overlook flaws, all for the sake of stanning their chosen company, I'm very glad to hear it. Cheers.
I'd argue we've been console agnostic for years, it's just that most of us weren't fortunate enough to have both smash and halo
Mood, the only reason I was ever loyal to a console was because that's where all my shit was
@@kurtczp Yeah, that was definitely how it was for me. I was pretty much everything but an X-Box gamer. Nintendo, Sony, PC, and I still got the X-Box 360 when it came out. So, it's pretty easy to be agnostic when your console collection is only limited by your desk space.
"We still do drugs but they're vitamin gummies" Goddamn Frost can write a line
The assumption of the middle is that both ends are standing in their spot in good faith, and I think it's magical thinking to say that an industry is going to temper itself. There has not been evidence of this historically in any medium on a meaningful scale.
It's hard to say. When looking at artistic mediums, it tends to go through periods of booms and busts. But we live in a weird time where the industries have only known booms. However, at least in television/cinema, we're starting to see the bust. Major theatrical blockbusters don't bust the block any more. Even the safest remix or redux of a classic series can flop. Before, the goal was to put all your eggs in one very safe basket, and let it make lots of money; now, the cost of production is so high, that if that one basket happens to have rotten eggs, you could lose all that money.
Gaming is in a similar place to all that. AAA studios are only focusing on their breadwinners, the cost of production is rising astronomically, and lots of their blockbuster AAA games are flopping. Is that just bad luck, a minor trend, or is that the beginning of a crash? We can't see, because there's not hindsight for us. The big difference with gaming and cinema, however, is that indie gaming is EXTREMELY profitable and culturally influential. An indie game company can release a banger in a way that an indie movie will never get such acclaim. So the overall metrics for the industry will always look good so long as there are a few healthy indie releases (which, frankly, there will always be).
@@heychrisfox, you think gaming hasn't gone through busts?
How short are memories have become...
@@dclark142002 Me acknowledging that the industry has gone through booms and busts is the whole premise of what I said, and is explicitly stated that all forms of media industries go through similar booms and busts as the main topic of the second sentence. Are you okay?
@@dclark142002 You missed their point. Their point was that for the past decade or two the entertainment industry as a whole has rarely seen a bust and the executives have forgotten what its like to not hit bigger year after year. Gaming I'd say has been particularly susceptible to this kind of delusion because it had a niche appeal in 2000 and by 2024 it has spread across the globe through significant portions of almost every single demographic and country.
Oh, holy crap, someone else sees it! I was starting to think my optimism for the direction the industry seems to be trending was naive Millennial positive thinking, but people really do seem to be coming around to the notion that infinite growth is a holographic carrot on a stick being used to beat them with.
Oh holy crap indeed, The Cheat.
It is still a bit naive. As much as I want to believe we are going to see some positive change, the little change we've seen so far is still profit driven (from big industry, not talking indi) and who knows what ideas will come out of desperation for the infinite growth model
Our tech economy in general is still based in the boom/bust cycle and most AAA companies have done little to quell that feeling for me.
So its a Frozen Carrot being used a Cudgle or Blackjack?
I believe in paying it forward, or serial reciprocity. Today I donated a three foot high pile of TTRPG books, five bags of custom dice, and miscellaneous odds and ends to local TTRPG enthusiasts. People who will get more enjoyment out of the books and dice and whatnot, while I'm moving on to newer TTRPGs.
So that was a large chunk of my day.
Ahhh yes, my weekly scotch on the rocks first thing Monday morning to shock myself back into some sense of normalcy after this weekend in America. Cheers, Frost.
Yeah, Yankee Candle closing one of their factories was pretty shell-shocking to me too.
And that's the only news we got this weekend. It was an usually quiet Saturday evening, roughly 7:00pm Eastern Standard Time
Doing great Frost, thanks for asking!
A point I'd like to highlight in your video is how flush we are of choices when it comes to games to play, even for the most niche of genres. So when I get told by friends and family there's "nothing good to play" despite all the untouched games wallowing in their Steam libraries, I have to remind them that the indie scene is brimming with dozens of quality titles that came out just this year alone. And that's not even including all the great stuff from years ago that feels like it was tailor-made for my tastes.
There's plenty of fish in the gaming sea. You've just got to cast out the net instead of waiting for one to rise to the top.
In my view, that is a curse rather than a blessing. We've lost all scarcity of games and we're left with a scarcity of time. Rather than a new great game being an exciting event it's yet another one to add to the backlog and somehow make time to play before you die. Any time spending a fun game could be better spent playing a game that's both fun and fulfilling, and I still need to get around to learning piano like I've been meaning to.
We don't need to ever try new things, we don't need to ever be bored, and we don't need to ever touch grass. That middle one, losing our boredom, is the worst in my view. Our boredom is probably what generates 90% of our humanity and that is basically erased.
@zUJ7EjVD To be honest, I can't see it as a curse. The backlog issue I see a lot of people have is a curse of their own choosing, rather than an issue of boredom.
There's plenty of new stuff to try, new things to do, and new skills to learn. Adjusting your time management to allow those things you're genuinely excited to play/do instead of throwing yet another, "I'll get to this when I get to it" game into the cart is far more of a personal issue than anything else.
Take a step back, realize you don't need something just cause it's 75% off, and play something to completion instead of for a couples hours then never again.
The people that say "there are no good games now" have the same mentality as people who say "modern music sucks" but have never gone beyond the confines of top 40 radio
@@HiddenGemsReviews Personally having a backlog is something I don't mind, just the fact I could play any game I reasonably wanted to if I got in the mood for it makes me feel rather content. I don't feel a strong drive to play anything immediately, rather I wait until I feel it's the right time to, although I've been meaning to play more of my games lately, since well I bought the games as I wanted to play them, so I'm trying to force myself to try new things.
Always here to remember Totalbiscuit. Was talking to my partner about his stuff last week. I'm glad his voice lives on in others too.
Rest well TB ❤
Cold Take: The world market is open for business. League’s popularity was because it could run on an ancient device and with gamers all around the world, the Western Market is only a slice of the pie. The next true zeitgeist hit is going to be one that can be experienced everywhere and isn’t limited to high end devices
But it also needs to be good enough for everyone else, this is why Freefire never entered most people's mind unless you are some hardcore phone gamers.
> League’s popularity was because it could run on an ancient device and with gamers all around the world,
Reminds me of why World of Warcraft succeeded, compared to it's competition it was much more accessible and ran on almost anything at the time.
It already has been. Genshin Impact.
@@SoullessOO1 Genshin doesn’t have the same real world soft power pull that games like Fortnite had at its prime (and still coasts on today). League turned its soft power into the media empire of e-sports, gaining big sponsors and paving the way for the modern advertising landscape (See Coke’s bid with Coke Zero and how it used LoL as a platform for its products).
Genshin is a big player and its parent company has proven it can repeat its financial success but its soft power outside of its own sphere has yet to be seen if it can be capitalized on.
@@zb3268 I think Mihoyo squandered a lot of it's soft power from Genshin on the Honkai ads. What goodwill they'd built kinda flopped because it wasn't obvious if it'd be a smooth transition from Genshin to Honkai for most players. Honkai/ZZZ/whatever the f they're calling it now seems to be doing well finally though, so it seems like they're getting some power back.
It's also worth noting that their business model of "create a new marketable character" doesn't lend itself terribly well to brand recognition like Fortnite or LoL eSports. Brand partnerships/sponsorship deals are much less of a draw with that. If they can make a successful anime bid though, we could have another pokemon-sized media empire on our hands. Hell, they could probably make bank by doing partnerships with clothing brands, too.
For anyone wondering, the airplane at 1:43 is a Hawaiian Airlines Airbus A330
I looked directly at the screen and said in a loud but still somehow deadpan voice. "Son, my first console was a Commodore."
what is your wisdom, oh grey one
rest in piece Totalbiscuit :(
"Everyone believes they're the center of morality, but if you're only ever yelling at one group of people, you might not be standing in the middle." That is such a great line, very much applicable in today's political climate as well.
Genuinely what a great way to reality check. Never would've thought of it that way.
I don't know. This assumes that being the "center of morality" and "standing in the middle" are the same thing. If anything, those who really believe to be the center of morality are the ones that knowingly go to extremes (because they believe they are morally right to do so).
I don't know, it sounds like it presupposes that being in the center is always a good thing.
Oh no! Totalbiscuit has been mentioned. The ghost shall appear in my feed once more 0_o
Still It's interesting how much Totalbiscuit did that makes him pop up in this historical context.
Thank you Frost for sharing your thoughts and antidotes. Some of your words reasonated with me because my closest friend is one who I argue with on constant basis. But it's not because we dislike our company but because we are trying to come to agreement. And sometimes it never happens but we maintain our friendship because who still believe each other deserves respect and acknowledge of their values. I don't always resonate with his values but I appreciate that he takes the time to explain them to me instead hot air..
For me I'm doing well and thanks js for asking. I hope your doing good too.
I’m personally worried that the industry will become more homogenised, like music has been.
It’s been trending that way for a couple of years now.
I want weird games filled with original ideas that evoke something in me. No matter what console they are on.
I want original IP’s sent forth by minds with a weird and clear direction.
@@TheOtherFrost I know! We see some weird creations here and there but I feel like the ratio is gradually moving towards the “safe” zone. I just wish more large companies went outside of it.
I’m a 90’s kid so I’m also biased. Everything was new then. I’m also not a video game critic, so.. blah.
8:19 My day was wonderful, thank you for asking. 7:13, I personally like you looking at opposite sides and its always refreshing to see someone who does their research. 8:12 I want to thank you for being the person you are and best of luck 🤞 🍀. On a different note I am happy to see an organization such as yours taking back their passion, and while I am currently destitute I sincerely hope all of the Staff at Second Wind succeed in their endeavors and are successful as a company. Thank you and have a better day than the last!
If everyone had wax wings, corporations would be the first to find out what altitude the melting point is at. Not that they'd ever tell us or admit its even possible...
@@lambdachi107-gamingandmusi2 haha, that's awesome! 🤣
"If you're only ever yelling at one group of people you might not be in the middle." Preach bro. 👏👏👏
1995 ..? Holy smoke. Thou shall now be known to me as "The Kid with the Voice of Gold". And also a darn good journalist. Objectivity makes you a target for some who thrive on a polarized discourse- but a hero to others. Like me. Keep giving us the good stuff buddy
Hitting me with that Long Dark thumbnail mid july is a mood.
Yeah I dont know what thats in reference to. Did something happen to Hinterland?
honesty, Frost, my day's going alright, my friend showed me Pacific Drive last nite and now it's on the "to-buy" group, I found a better way to flavor up some cheap oatmeal for the mornings, and we're halfway thru July. I'm 38, I don't need summer anymore, it's just a part of the year that means heat bright and angry enough to make you wanna fall over and recant all heresies for a goddamn breeze. Cold water, am I right? Two years sober in November, gettin' old's a bitch, but she's my bitch.
you?
Hey congrats on the two years sober. Shit's hard.
You know, if you switch two letters, you get Told Cake 🍰
Cake is a lie
Mmmmmm cake
Delicious cake is waiting for you.
@@DannySmith- I understood that reference
Which two letters 😢
I care not about the future nor present of gaming. I've long since accepted that the wider gaming medium does not cater to my niches. I'll continue sitting in my hole playing games made in the Early '00s, occasionally taking a peek outside to see if anyone's made another Armored Core, Command & Conquer, or traditional MMORPG, and then slither back.
Incidentally, 2023 was a great year for me. Thank you, FromSoftware
I can relate to this. I enjoy CRPGs and... that's pretty much it. I mostly replay games from 1-2 decades ago.
I've recently played the vaunted Baldur's Gate 3 (2023). It was fun, but I prefer Baldur's Gate 2 (2000).
I wish I could remember the convention it happened at but I remember there was a public talk in my teens where part of the industry had already figured out some games were going to be "Forever Games" and they were going to have 40+ year old people religiously living on these games and they were trying to figure out how to support them with more and more complex mechanics. At the time I think the discussion was centered on Ultima and Everquest. It's been interesting watching different gaming communities rise and fall and re-define what genres even are in the past 20 years.
Thank God they're advertising another deck builder game. Cuz I really thought we were going to run out of those.
Someone needs to make a deckbuilder game about deckbuilders as cards.
8:12 Talk to people ? Damn Frost this is gonna be hard
I tried that once. Didn't go well.
You got me with the guy from the long dark on the thumbnail. I have almost 1000 hours (only counting steam) in that game.
I’ve really missed playing more story heavy games but even if they were thick on the ground, I just don’t have the bandwidth, especially these last few years. Long Dark still gets occasional content updates that keep things just interesting enough to return day after day.
So that’s what my gaming present looks like.
Also there’s a bunch of very very sad boys who are trying to make gg happen again and it really puts into perspective how much things have changed. Gaming is too wide of a space for anything to consume the whole conversation anymore. There are worse places to be than here, I know, I lived them.
Couldn't be happier you made your way to Second Wind Frost. I just hope the work, "office", and contracts are half of what I'm hoping.
Honestly, I'm doing fine. Could be better. Could be worse. The flames have only just started to singe. Ask me again in a couple months. I'm near a teetering point, so we'll see how things are going. And thank you very much for these commentaries. They're a bright light no matter when I'm in broad daylight or pitch night. Maybe someday you'll get to win back the rights to your original theme song, though. I do miss that. The new one has finally grown on me, though. I hope you guys continue to have amazing success.
I'm very glad to see this type of paradigm-challenging introspection. A lot of conversation around video games has stagnated and it is honestly hard to sometimes not to fall back into familiar perspectives. Anyway, my point is... I'm glad this series is here :)
I'm still a bit sad when I hear his name. R.I.P TotalBiscuit
Nice of you to bring up the late Total Biscuit; it's easy to forget what a driving force that man was in shining lights on the game industry's stains
Frost, this might be the best essay you’ve ever published, and you’re always amazing.
I love your work, thank you.
I appreciate getting into the weeds of nuance, we will need level heads and voices to get anywhere and I think you may be one of those voices that helps us all navigate through. Keep up the good work internet stranger!
Me: "Haha, funny Frost, there's no way that Totalbiscuit vid is 11 years old now, you're pranking us."
[checks upload date]
Me: "Oh god. I'm old."
art and publicly traded company can't go together
if the investors have no passion for what they are investing in, artists(studios in this case) will never get to reach their full potential
This is the same conclusion I keep coming to as well. I get that investment capital can do wonders for an economy, and it works to generate jobs and growth, so it's not as if it's inherently bad to invest just to make money off of your investments, but again, look at the way these sorts of things started. The whole idea behind "patreon" is from the concept of a "patron", where rich people would pay artists to make them good art. They weren't "investing" the same way someone would charter a ship so a Portugese merchant would buy a kilo of spice from India to sell to the Spanish. In that case the noble doesn't care whether or not the art of Indian cuisine flourishes or not, and likely such transactions don't really have a direct effect on such a thing. There was a sense that there's a difference between making money and spending money.
Totally opposite world when it comes to today and we treat every single avenue of human activity as just another way to make money. In the past people used to spend money to make money, and then they'd, you know, just kind of "spend" their money too. So few people with capital are willing to spend their money on the production of things that can be enjoyed for their own sake. The thing I would do if I was a billionaire making millions every day off of my stock earnings is take all of that free money I'm getting and just become a patron in every industry I wanted to consume content in. Sponsor a bunch of studios to make cool games, sponsor all kinds of movie and tv startups. Instead these people just use their money to ruin art. All so they can buy another yacht. Maybe we just need more gamers to become millionaires/billionaires.
@@maninblack3410 He wasn't talking about 'artsy' games. All video games are made by artists and are therefore art. But when the investors and business people are the ones making the most decisions on what gets made and how it gets made, games become mere products because the artists were not the ones in charge of the vision, they were effectively just workers. Cogs in a machine.
@@maninblack3410 I'd argue the industry is currently in shambles, chasing trends and audiences that don't exist because the investors are out of touch and aren't letting the artists cook. It's important to remember that it's not a binary thing; a masterpiece won't sell if it isn't marketed properly, but a game made by committee probably won't sell either no matter how much it's marketed. Every person has a role to play in the development of a game, they just need to stick to what they do best. The money people have the money, the talented people have the talent.
Its worth remembering the arts and commerce have always went hand in hand. Publicly traded companies and the arts have went together since at least early cinema, so they definitely can go together, its whether they should which we should ask about
Just want to say "thanks!" to Frost for trying to have the more difficult, nuanced conversations! Nuance is something that's too often difficult to find in the modern social media, and even media in general, landscape. Trying to find where the good and bad points are on both sides of various issues will help us learn and grow and thread that needle that leads to a better experience overall for everybody!
Edit: How was my day? Pretty good actually! Got done some odd jobs I've been putting off for months now and can now cross a couple more items off the todo list. How about you?
Funny, back when you guys were the escapist. I’d watch zero punctuation and back in the day extra credits. Now. Watch everything. Cold take is quickly becoming a favourite. Keep it up lads!
These Cold Takes are top tier.
Subbed to support and to check out more Ramble Punctuation but scored a new show to watch in the process.
Keep it up dude.
I am not better served by FPS games in 2024. You get either boomer shooters (too old-school) or live service monstrosities. No campaign shooters like we got in the late 90s through the early 2010s. Or they're a trickle, at most.
Would love to see Titanfall 2's influence as a campaign shooter come back in a big way. Maybe one day, but it'll be a while.
So right I miss a quality single player campaign. One that lasts more than three to six hours and just has a bunch of bullshit.
@@Viper-ft3tk That was the last great single player FPS experience. There have been a few good ones, but that was the last great one.
@@jonofthehill I'd argue Half-Life: Alyx, but that comes with the VR asterisk.
Second this. I don't dislike boomer shooters but they're becoming the next metroidvania (over-exploitated by the indie market)
My day was good Frost, thanks for asking
Today's pretty good. Just lounging for a saturday, but started doing some chores. Thanks for the vid. I appreciate the nuance. How's your day?
One major point to add though, if the games industry isn't growing exponentially, you're going to have much less of an influx of investors seeking to gain value off of stock and funding new studios. Private companies won't be hit as hard since the shareholder pool is smaller and valuation fluctuates less, but larger, public studios will (and have been) cutting staff rapidly to try and appease their shareholders. The expectation of unlimited growth is a problem with our economic system, but the effects people feel from that are nonetheless real.
The opposite is true my guy, public companies don't give a fuck about investors. It is new start ups(private companies) that struggle when there is less investment money being thrown around.
My day was pretty rough frost. Dealing with a serious respiratory illness, but staying positive and trying to do stuff with my time. Mental energy is low and choice paralysis is high but I think I will play a game I haven't played before that is way outside of my wheelhouse today.
hope you are doing good my dude.
To answer the question at the end of the video: I'm having a good day so far Frost, Cold Take has been nice to listen to while my neighbors have been tearing out their carpet.
Absolutely stellar stuff as always, and incredibly well put. To be honest looking back I think each and every one of us must admit they they previously held opinions that they have now come back from, maybe even taking in the opposite side of the table this time around.
It's not about being right, it is about finding the truth. And sometimes the truth is simply that there are several different options of equal value, merely with different merits.
I love looking intot eh comments of a cold take video and seeing all the comments that are, intentionally or otherwise, very obviously immitating frosts manner of speech. The mans voice is literally infectious.
With the technological advancements slowing, it's strange to see the few real innovations we get go unnoticed. THE FINALS is doing some crazy serverside physics sorcery that results in wild map destruction & consistent physics fun sync'd perfectly to every player, and somehow nobody noticed! It's so hard to go back to old FPS games now that I've experienced it with BotW physics sim interactions & better-than-Battlefield destruction, and yet gamers just... didn't seem to notice the massive breakthrough achievement it's seeped in.
My day is a little better after watching this, thanks for asking!
"If you're only ever yelling at one person, you probably aren't standing in the middle" A bold take in these unprecedented times. Keep up the painfully cold takes, they'*re keeping me sane.
Frost, you are my favorite writer right now
My day was allright, thank you for asking. Hope yours was at least as good or better : )
Allright, that'll do for now. Small steps.
Thanks for your vids and see you at the next one!
My day was alright, Frost. Trying to put the shoulder to the wheel and begin achieving something in my life. It's amazing how much I've deteriorated over the years.
Here's to having faith that there is truly value in hardwork.
On rolling up your sleeves, that was a lovely closer. Glad you get involved.
Watching the gaming industry evolve has always felt like landing a paraglider in a tempest. As soon as you get your footing, it's all up in the air again.
My day has been pretty good, thabk you!
It's great the medium has expanded so much even if the competition to sell games has gotten a lot more fierce. Also I love seeing gnome getting shown on the channel.
My day was fine thanks for asking. Honestly I've always liked the more nuanced takes, and I'm glad that it feels that gaming is starting to settle a bit more. I remember watching the summer game fest and seeing a new RTS pop up and thinking to myself, someone is making one of those? In 2024? For a lot of folks the canary in the coal mine that something was with how Blizzard was doing business was their lack of support for Starcraft 2, a game that by all rights should have been on a pedestal for it's prestige, only to be cast aside for not doing over watch numbers.
My day has been mixed. Lots of car issues and a continual yearning for the road outside my work to be safer for pedestrians so my chronically ill ass could nap on the train during my commute instead of driving.
It's the morning, besides the sniffles. My day is starting well
This episode reflects feelings I've had about politics and business in the wealthy nations. That feeling of ennui you can sense from most people asked who they're voiting for. I think it's right to say it comes from stability. The global distrobution network is as good as it can get. There isn't anything left to develop, and no new space to grow. Now, we have to sit down and talk about what we want to do with it all. What do we think it means to be human?
Like you said, though. Talking is hard. Many people would rather just keep yelling due to how hard talking is. Some will yell all the way to the grave. I don't know what i expect us to do now. I just know what needs to be done.
I’ve gotta say, Between your deep husky voice, Design Delve, and Yahtzee, Second Wind looks like it is running strong.
8:13 hey man, 40+ and I don't think I'll ever stop growing as a person. Good to see you continually evolving, too
Good stuff, hope he is right about things. That graph shown in the early part of the video made me nostalgic for the era of arcades. Especially when there was so much competition they tended to have the difficulty cranked down, and you could get eight, ten or even twelve tokens for a dollar.
New week, new cold take! Always a pleasure.
Thanks frost, love the videos. Keep em coming and get more devisive
There are some genres that can evaporate here and there, but there's so many indie games, it's easy for any old fan to get something that plays to their interests even if it's not the big moneymaking AAA trend. There's always a whole other world of gaming out there if you go digging, so many genres with their own fanbases living on their own.
I feel as though the future and current of gaming is going to be more about the indies. I know I'm super bias but when I think of AAA I often think the same thing as Blockbuster movies. Same few story's, mechanics and characters being regurgitated with pretty graphics that sell the next bit of hardware. When I look at indies I see players ether creating experiences that are inspired by there own childhood games or doing something wild and original that no one thought of before. AAA is always going to exist but I see indies as becoming more of the focus for a lot of games. You only need to look at the trend of bombs from the past two years to see that a lot of players are getting sick of the same live service formula.
Knowing someone as accomplished as Frost is only a year older than me gives me an existential crisis.
Thank you so much for trying to improve the gaming industry ^^
Juicy quotes from this one. Also yes, 100% agreed.
Total biscuit mentioned, swell with nostalgia and melancholy
It was interesting watching this after the LTT podcast snippet (something about no one buying google ai) where they talked about how they're just tired off the anger, and how people go to hobbies to relax but just get anger.
MY DAY WAS FINE, THANKS FOR ASKING !!!
This is the second video today that's referred to Total biscuit, what a gem of a human being he was, and still missed.
Dear Editor... i would like to request a change in style... when Frost has finished, can you fade/end the music so the chipmunk doesn't pierce through steel with a sudden insert? not asking for anything else, just a fade, actual end of Frosts segments. those two voices do not compliment each other in sudden succession at those volumes, or fade in the end sponsor segment so it doesn't just stab the ears.
it's an audiophiles request. Frost, with a voice like that deserves volume, but that same volume isn't as complimentary the ear or to the aesthetic of this content. that's all i request. a balance/fade/end whatever it takes... i'm sure you remember, at least, i remember, adverts on TV being exceedingly louder than the show. that's what this reminds me of and, it's the only feedback i've managed to conjure up in this entire time of the new channel, so, it's not imperative but would be appreciated, to the tone and mood of these Cold Takes.
ad i don't mean fade in of more than a second, i'm not a monster. just so the initial vocal burst isn't.... obnoxious.
also... my day... could be better, could be worse. i'm okay. thanks for asking. i hope all of the Second Wind team are doing something fun or find something interesting in their days. stay hydrated, be smart and don't be afraid to say NO. i mean, never say it. but if you have to, don't be afraid of saying it.
My day was good, thanks
My day was rough. Sometimes the universe tells some poor schmuck working 3rds that sleep isn't on the table, and I'm rather fond of my sleep. Still, here plugging away and trying to make my job a decent place for me, my coworkers, and my guests. So, not too great, but could be worse. Thanks for askin! Hope yours is better.
I hated that Factorio never went on sale. It was the norm for games on Steam to go on sale. That's how I can afford most of them. But I concede that the Factorio devs reasoning is sound and their game is worth it. That said I DO wish it had been a tad more obvious that no sale ever was their choice and their tactic. Not just luck of the draw. I personally waited a LONG time for the game to go on sale. Completely from the owners perspective, if the store page had mentioned it instead of me having to find out from a discussion board they would have gotten their money a lot sooner. So it's not completely on me.
How was yours?
We might actually have gotten to a point where we stop laying down road ahead of us and actually think about where we are, why we are here and where we'd like to go next. We can make just about any game someone comes up now, time for a little introspection.
Ik this might come off as an insult, but this ten minute video felt like 30 minutes. And I mean this in a good way no shade at all.
God damn! We need a better transition between the velvet smooth of Frost before the piercing ear assault of Jack! That's like get out of a jacuzzi hot tub and straight into an ice bath.
Edit: Originally said it was Nick, was corrected to Jack.
If its worth anything, thats not Nick, that Jack Packard who does the ad reads
1) I think Nick has a pretty smooth voice, but obviously a different accent/dialect to Frost
2) it sounded like Jack ad to me
You should hear Rich Evans' laugh.
Going straight from a hot tub or sauna into an ice bath is very traditional, my friend.
@dorongrossman-naples9207 be that as it may, it doesn't make it any less painful. I have done it myself. Hurts a lot but is a healthy habit. Reference was to the pain, not the health benefits.
Being the change you want to see in the world is what we all need these days.
I think execs are still itching to use "the future of gaming" as a talking point - wasn't that exactly what NFTs and the Metaverse were supposed to be not so long ago? Thankfully very few consumers drank the kool-aid on that one.
Those were obvious scams too
I swear i would hire frost to narrate everything if i could
Wow, fantastic video. Great job.
Quake with 4 people? Come on :D. Just a couple years later, we were playing Q3 an UT with 16 or later even 32 people. Especially, when you could run your own dedicated server on a LAN.
RIP UT, replaced by fortnight...
@@Reahreichonestly, when fortnight came to power I was excited because it wasn’t another military shooter. Even though I didn’t play it, I hoped it would lead to fewer mil shooters. And the rise of the boomer shooter came afterwards. I don’t think fortnight cause it, but it does seem to mark end of mil shooter dominance.
I've heard Frost say he has a mite addiction to growing his gaming catalogue and it's one I share, and I can say, with gusto, that gaming is is the best place it's ever been. Everyone that misses the PS2 sweetspot REALLY needs to keep swiping through the front page on Steam, because it's very well out of retirement.
My day’s been pretty good, just got off work. Got promoted to bartender last month and I’m really gettin the hang of it.
Day''s good, Frost, thanks!
But your musings are on point as usual - the industry is always on the way somewhere and I'm starting to feel that maybe it is it's natural state - fluctuating between being grown-up and child-like and riding towards either absolute domination in media or total collapse at the same time. The change is definitely needed, but will it happen.
I'm doing well. Thanks for asking, Frost.
Standing in the middle means riding a fence.
You don’t always have to pick a side, but if you don’t, you may find a side assigned to you.