Zizek takes a leaf from Jacques Lacan's book about the issue of multiculturalism and the unfortunate difficulties which may emerge in its practise in society.
immediately after the first time I went down on a past girlfriend she cheerfully said "you dirty boy" and I thought I should make her feel good that I did not find her or that part of her "dirty" so I said "oh, I found it quite lovely". I've always wondered if I should have said "yeah, I'm a dirty boy."
The implication of "dirty boy" was aiming directly at you, not her parts you moron. The notion of carnal pleasure being a shameful act, as in an attempt to "shame" you in order for her to get rid of her guilt. Catholicism ethic style.
This is just as simple as to realise that the meaning of all human life, in its elementary form especially, comes down to just following the Law, - written in capital letters, those unwritten ones especially - and getting pleasures, both ridden by the "objet petit a". This is humanity at its most elementary. There should be a balance between both in order to be a real sane person and society. This is all we do until we die, nothing more. You can change the colours of the painting but the framework will always be the same.
But is this structure completely elementary for subjective life, so that it is independent from time and place? Or are there other forms of subjective transformations possible, which do not come down to Zizeks definition? But then maybe the transformed subject cannot be called human anymore and has no connection with us whatsoever?
But that's the main objective of raping, i.e., to impose ones' power through authority, hurting and humiliation, etc. It's basically not a matter of enjoyment...
@@tobymcinnis7031 What are you looking for? Have you ever read feminist, gender or race relations litterature? Have you ever read/checked philosophy, sociology, anthropology and psychology? If you have had, you would then understand that my statement. Otherwise would you you believe humans beings do not engage in power relations? Lol ... are you a pervert? I I wonder...
This is true about rape, but zizek's point is that the rapist's enjoyment is a surplus enjoyment derived from his guilt for the action. since he did not enjoy himself, he is not guilty
as a mexican i can correct, it's all about corruption, judge got money or got threaten, that's the way it is with people with power or money in mex, you don't have to complicate the idea Zizek
Doesn't matter for the point he's making. The question remains: why is it taken as assumed knowledge that lack of enjoyment relates to the rapists culpability?
Or the judge was either bought off or knew that sentencing the kid would mean some seriously negative consequences... the reasoning could just as well be a facade. I see no evidence or strong enough argument in this video for me to not consider this possibility
Doesn't matter even if that is the case. You don't see strong enough argument in this video because you don't understand the totality of the argument. Take a closer look at how Slavoj links judge's reasoning with Christianity to get the idea that it doesn't matter whether the judge was sincere or not. Because it is an already established reasoning built in religion.
Only the oppressing castes in India which are also the ruling class want to insure the caste system does not die due to political reasons like vote bank politics etc and other extremist reasons similar to white supremacy.
Yea after his argument here, it’s difficult for me to believe that he genuinely supports emancipatory politics. It seems like he wants to be complicit in conservative positions with the excuse that “it’s their culture” which is almost exactly what he accuses liberals of doing.
I am disappointed to see the ideological, moral use of the theoretical concept, "Real" to attack the obvious social-political problems present in other cultures.
immediately after the first time I went down on a past girlfriend she cheerfully said "you dirty boy" and I thought I should make her feel good that I did not find her or that part of her "dirty" so I said "oh, I found it quite lovely". I've always wondered if I should have said "yeah, I'm a dirty boy."
The implication of "dirty boy" was aiming directly at you, not her parts you moron.
The notion of carnal pleasure being a shameful act, as in an attempt to "shame" you in order for her to get rid of her guilt. Catholicism ethic style.
Pretty cool point about "the real" of other cultures. One cannot be kind to another person and reductionist about their culture too - that is brutal.
Its brutal but necessary and part of progress. Would you say that in the west protestantism was brutal? For some probably. But necessary.
@@Soytu19 explain necessity
"Now comes the horror..."
So authority and bureaucracy structures are an essential part of cultures.
Yes
This is just as simple as to realise that the meaning of all human life, in its elementary form especially, comes down to just following the Law, - written in capital letters, those unwritten ones especially - and getting pleasures, both ridden by the "objet petit a". This is humanity at its most elementary. There should be a balance between both in order to be a real sane person and society. This is all we do until we die, nothing more. You can change the colours of the painting but the framework will always be the same.
Capitalist realism
But is this structure completely elementary for subjective life, so that it is independent from time and place? Or are there other forms of subjective transformations possible, which do not come down to Zizeks definition? But then maybe the transformed subject cannot be called human anymore and has no connection with us whatsoever?
"In some small mexican city" - I was like this is gonna hit hard, then he said "now comes the horror" at that point I lost it 😅
I see the world spirit in his sniff
Where is this taken from??
But that's the main objective of raping, i.e., to impose ones' power through authority, hurting and humiliation, etc. It's basically not a matter of enjoyment...
how did you become such an expert, I wonder?
@@tobymcinnis7031 What are you looking for? Have you ever read feminist, gender or race relations litterature? Have you ever read/checked philosophy, sociology, anthropology and psychology? If you have had, you would then understand that my statement. Otherwise would you you believe humans beings do not engage in power relations? Lol ... are you a pervert? I I wonder...
@@tobymcinnis7031 ... that my statement is part of a consensus in these areas... ***
This is true about rape, but zizek's point is that the rapist's enjoyment is a surplus enjoyment derived from his guilt for the action. since he did not enjoy himself, he is not guilty
You mean 'pleasure'. Not jouissance aka enjoyment.
as a mexican i can correct, it's all about corruption, judge got money or got threaten, that's the way it is with people with power or money in mex, you don't have to complicate the idea Zizek
Doesn't matter for the point he's making. The question remains: why is it taken as assumed knowledge that lack of enjoyment relates to the rapists culpability?
STARTS WITH A SNIFF *sniff emoji*
I get it
cant tell if hes coked up or got a cold
his enjoyment comes from you not knowing.
Or the judge was either bought off or knew that sentencing the kid would mean some seriously negative consequences... the reasoning could just as well be a facade. I see no evidence or strong enough argument in this video for me to not consider this possibility
Doesn't matter even if that is the case. You don't see strong enough argument in this video because you don't understand the totality of the argument. Take a closer look at how Slavoj links judge's reasoning with Christianity to get the idea that it doesn't matter whether the judge was sincere or not. Because it is an already established reasoning built in religion.
*sniff*
Only the oppressing castes in India which are also the ruling class want to insure the caste system does not die due to political reasons like vote bank politics etc and other extremist reasons similar to white supremacy.
Yea after his argument here, it’s difficult for me to believe that he genuinely supports emancipatory politics. It seems like he wants to be complicit in conservative positions with the excuse that “it’s their culture” which is almost exactly what he accuses liberals of doing.
Always criticizing Indian cast system but he'll not speak a single word for racism in western countries
He didn’t criticize it, he supports it.
the closest thing to the Real in culture are Jungian archetypes. which are universal across cultures.
Wow someone quit the search after reading the first chapter.
@@iwantmytrophy first chapter of what?
@@termoffline Psychology 101
@@iwantmytrophy the search for the real?
@@iwantmytrophy seconding the lack of what book. I get their meaning that op quit the great search, but they could've given a book recommendation.
my god is this guy coked up or what.
Lol.
Surplus enjoyment
@@HakWilliams 👈this guy reads Žižek
I am disappointed to see the ideological, moral use of the theoretical concept, "Real" to attack the obvious social-political problems present in other cultures.
How much coke has this guy done?